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The Muster Full Show: 10/09/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
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  Speaker 1: Mui here and the show is brought to you, of course,
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  Speaker 1: by Peter's Genetics.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for your company. It's overcast.
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  Speaker 1: Sprawly showers have occurred throughout the south this morning. Currently,
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  Speaker 1: there is a bit of sunshine, but I dare say
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  Speaker 1: that is false economy. We're going to look at the
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  Speaker 1: weather shortly, but, yeah, look, after a couple of days
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  Speaker 1: of decent weather, about 4.30 last night, you could just
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  Speaker 1: see something brewing, and it just got cooler, a bit
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  Speaker 1: more rain. Phil Duncan of Weather Watch will look at
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  Speaker 1: the southern forecast in depth for the next seven days.
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  Speaker 1: Next week, it does look as though things are looking
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  Speaker 1: a bit rosier. Right, straight into it now. Duran Duran,
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  Speaker 1: the music for your Thursday afternoon. Great song this from 1993,
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  Speaker 1: Ordinary World. This afternoon is rain with breezy westerlies and
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  Speaker 1: a high of 9. Friday, showers of breezy westerlies, 4
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  Speaker 1: and 10. Westerlies are pretty much the currency over the
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  Speaker 1: next five days. Saturday, rain with breezy westerlies, 6 and 10. Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: showers of breezy westerlies, 6 and 12. And Monday, this
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  Speaker 1: is looking better, cloudy with breezy west nor westerlies, 8
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  Speaker 1: and 16.
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  Speaker 2: So temperatures to hand for a Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Heriot 6.2, Northern Southland 7.1, Riverton 9, Te Anau 6.5,
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  Speaker 1: Tutoroa 8, Winton 6.4. And Woodland 7.5 as we start
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  Speaker 1: the year with Don Moore farming at Kennington. Getting through
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  Speaker 1: calving now. Quite a bit going on on the farm
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  Speaker 1: as Don looks. He's been on that operation now for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months. Always got a bit of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: On the go. So we just see how things are
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  Speaker 2: going as calving gets through. Then not far from Kennington.
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  Speaker 1: Is the Riviera of the South. Riverton, Geordie Yee joins
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  Speaker 1: us to see how things are going there. Sheep, beef
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  Speaker 1: and dairy farming. Donna Hamilton from Beef and Lamb New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand talks lamb autopsies. Not something you talk about on
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  Speaker 1: the radio every day, let's be honest, but with the
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  Speaker 1: southern lens, pretty relevant to what we're seeing at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel O'Regan, he is involved with AgriFutures on.
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  Speaker 2: A pretty cool thing happening at Telford.
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  Speaker 1: Today for all the school kids from an agri-focused, agri-sense,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose. It's like Young Farmers, a young farmer of
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  Speaker 1: the year competition, but on a school-level scale, just getting
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  Speaker 1: kids interested in the ag sector. And resident farming guru,
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  Speaker 1: resident sporting guru, Nathan Burden, stags up against Bay of
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  Speaker 1: Plenty on Sunday, and a local lad who's returning to
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  Speaker 1: the fold. Dave Morrison of PGG writes in, gives the
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  Speaker 1: rundown on stock prices from Charlton. And we'll start the
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  Speaker 1: hour then with Don Moore. And to Tony from Gore
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  Speaker 1: that gave me your phone call not.
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  Speaker 2: That long ago. Thanks, mate.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciated the joke. I think tomorrow I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: looking at the moment. Perhaps I'm going to do an
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  Speaker 1: extended laugh out loud and just do a heap of
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  Speaker 1: dad jokes because it's a Friday and it's the middle
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  Speaker 1: of September and because we can. I'll show on that
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  Speaker 1: and see what I reckon. Anyway, we'll crank into it
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  Speaker 1: next with Don Moore. Don Moore gets us underway this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: He's dairy farming down at Kennington. He is part of
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  Speaker 1: the Fonterra Shareholders Council and he's out in the trenches.
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  Speaker 2: Don, good afternoon. How's everything?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, just a box of.
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  Speaker 4: Fluffies, yeah. Yeah, no, the rain obviously came back in
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  Speaker 4: for everyone last night at some stage and.
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  Speaker 4: Made us, just reminded us again that don't enjoy that
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  Speaker 4: sunshine too much. Yeah, it was a beautiful couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think we're back into a few days
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  Speaker 4: of rain anyway.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a tease. 48 hours. It was just bliss.
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  Speaker 1: And today we've had all these nasty showers coming through
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  Speaker 1: here in Gore anyway. I mean, down there, how wet
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  Speaker 1: are ground conditions?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just pretty wet out. Yeah, you wouldn't get
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  Speaker 4: it too wet around here. around much of the paddocks
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  Speaker 4: these days. But, yeah, the cows had a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a reprieve in the people for a couple of days,
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  Speaker 4: and this is springtime, so we'll get some more good
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  Speaker 4: weather at some stage.
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  Speaker 2: It'll happen, I think, next week.
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  Speaker 1: There's a few nor'westers in there, but temperatures will be up,
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  Speaker 1: so perhaps start drying this ground out, which it needs to.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll sort of keep moving cows on and things, but, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's the way it goes. We're still... Well, we're still
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  Speaker 4: enjoying things, so that's good.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good way to be. You've just moved down there,
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  Speaker 2: so that's always a bonus.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do get mentioned to me occasionally, you know, well,
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  Speaker 4: you wanted to move down here.
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  Speaker 2: That'll grow pretty good grass there when the season's humming,
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  Speaker 2: I'd imagine.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, it doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's fantastic. That's one of the reasons.
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  Speaker 6: I wanted to move here, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough. So carving, you're getting through? Yeah, we are.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're probably about 80%, 85%. So we're not 85%.
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  Speaker 4: We're not far off it. And so, yeah, no, second along,
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  Speaker 4: we had a big day yesterday, which was good because
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  Speaker 4: when you have a big day, when you don't have
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  Speaker 4: many to go, it takes a big chunk out. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we're looking forward to the end of the season, to
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  Speaker 4: the end of the calving season and get ready for
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  Speaker 4: the next bit. But usually, you know, by the time
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  Speaker 4: you get to the end of the calving season, you
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  Speaker 4: free up your days and the sun shines out a
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  Speaker 4: bit more and And you can probably have a day off.
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  Speaker 4: It would be nice.
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  Speaker 2: You say it was a big day. How many cars
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  Speaker 2: would you be talking?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, look, I think we had about 16, 17 yesterday. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So that's a pretty big day for this time of
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  Speaker 4: the year. It's not a big day early on in
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  Speaker 4: the calving season, but that's a big day for now
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  Speaker 4: when you're sort of, that's over 10% of your numbers
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  Speaker 4: to go.
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  Speaker 1: Weather aside, and obviously the weather's a big driver in August, September.
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  Speaker 1: um carving though it's gone to plant.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah pretty good yeah yeah um i've uh bitten off
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  Speaker 4: a bit more than i can chew i think i've
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  Speaker 4: said that before with wonder projects but um but uh
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  Speaker 4: yeah no it's uh i mean every day we're making
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  Speaker 4: some difference and uh and making changes that that improve
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  Speaker 4: the farm so uh that's that's quite you know that's
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  Speaker 4: rewarding that's what helps you get up every day when
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  Speaker 4: you're when you can go out there and notice the
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  Speaker 4: thing that you changed yesterday is helping what you're doing today.
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  Speaker 4: So that's bloody awesome, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you've got these projects on the go. When are
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  Speaker 1: you hoping to have everything up and running properly? Because
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  Speaker 1: it's a marathon, not a sprint with what you're doing.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, this is a farm, man.
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  Speaker 4: It'll take years.
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  Speaker 6: It's never done.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, this is when you say you bought something
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  Speaker 1: at a clearing sale 20 years ago, or your old
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  Speaker 1: man did, and you're finally going to get around to
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  Speaker 1: using that bolt that's.
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  Speaker 2: A real odd size. It's imperial.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, come in handies, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just the nature of the game. Right, as far
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  Speaker 1: as the season, though, you get through August, you get
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  Speaker 1: through September. Do you enjoy this time of year? Is
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  Speaker 1: it enjoyable, busy, or is it pretty hectic?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely love it. Yeah, it's that opportunity to reset and
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  Speaker 4: give it another crack and see if you can do better.
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  Speaker 4: Every year you get that opportunity. So, no, it's bloody awesome.
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  Speaker 4: And we're making so many changes and improvements on the
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  Speaker 4: farm that it's hard not to sort of be invigorated
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  Speaker 4: by that. even if you have the hard days and
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  Speaker 4: bits and pieces like I say you're making all these
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  Speaker 4: changes it's just enjoyable.
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  Speaker 1: Moving farms, is that part of the reason you're so
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  Speaker 1: invigorated as such?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah definitely, I mean it's all the things that we
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  Speaker 4: wanted to do on this farm that's invigorating and you
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  Speaker 4: know we're certainly missing people up in Gore old mates
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  Speaker 4: and bits and pieces and that's a bit harder but Look,
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  Speaker 4: we didn't see that much at this time of the
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  Speaker 4: year usually anyway. So, no, it's great fun and I've got,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we've got farm projects, we've got house projects,
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  Speaker 4: I've got shed projects and all sorts of things to do.
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  Speaker 4: So there's not going to be any shortage of things
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  Speaker 4: to do for the next wee while and a bit
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  Speaker 4: of motivation.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good way to be. What about the staff?
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  Speaker 2: How are they finding this time of year?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, they're.
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  Speaker 6: Doing really well.
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  Speaker 4: We've got a new guy came on this season, started
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  Speaker 4: dairy farming, and he's absolutely thriving. And our manager too.
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  Speaker 4: We've got one guy, unfortunately, off at the moment with
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  Speaker 4: an injury. So that's put a bit of pressure on.
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  Speaker 4: But look, the systems and things that we've got in
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  Speaker 4: place just allow us to keep on ticking on. It
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  Speaker 4: probably just slows down, probably more slows down the projects
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  Speaker 4: that I want to do because I've sort of got
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  Speaker 4: to make sure that we're getting all the day-to-day basics done. But, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's good. Yeah, they're happy.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you've got a vision as
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  Speaker 1: to where you, Jess, and the family want the farm
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  Speaker 1: to be. And so, what, as far as goal setting,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose this comes into it, you just try and
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  Speaker 1: realign what you want to do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've just got to sort of say to yourself, well, actually,
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  Speaker 4: everything's operational. And this time of the year when things
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  Speaker 4: crop up, you've just got to do the basics and
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  Speaker 4: do the basics well, and that's fine. And you've got
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  Speaker 4: to be okay with that. You know, sometimes you get
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  Speaker 4: frustrated and you've just got to sort of recheck yourself,
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  Speaker 4: and that's probably where I've been this week.
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  Speaker 2: As far as the payout, are you pretty optimistic it's
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  Speaker 2: going to stay where it is?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm optimistic, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, we've got a long way
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  Speaker 4: to play out, but... I think if I was to
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  Speaker 4: think back on my comments and thoughts over last season,
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  Speaker 4: I could see a lot more downside than upside. risk.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's probably a bit more balanced this season, actually.
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  Speaker 4: So if that's a real positive, then if that's a positive,
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  Speaker 4: then that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: When you say there's a bit more balance, what do
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  Speaker 2: you mean by that exactly?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I just think we've seen some of that volatility
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  Speaker 4: play out over the last 12 to 24 months.
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  Speaker 6: It's been a pretty hectic.
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  Speaker 4: World and we're still seeing relatively, you know, very good
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  Speaker 4: commodity prices. And I think if this has sort of
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  Speaker 4: become the norm, this volatility, then if you look at
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  Speaker 4: the other drivers around, supply, demand and all those sort
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  Speaker 4: of stories around global supply and bits and pieces, I'm
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  Speaker 4: feeling quite optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: Just food supply in general, something New Zealand does really
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  Speaker 1: well and we talk about the figures of what Southland
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  Speaker 1: does for the GDP, we don't need to go there
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  Speaker 1: because we know we're more than holding our own weight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And look, I think ultimately I'll be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: No, you've got to back yourself in your judgement though,
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  Speaker 1: you can only play what's in front of you and Jeez.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think, like I say, I'm optimistic. Hopefully that plays out.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully it does, Don. Hey, we'll let you carry on.
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  Speaker 1: All the best for the rest of the carving. We'll
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  Speaker 1: catch up again, eh?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, very good.
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  Speaker 3: Cheers, Andy.
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  Speaker 1: Don Moore, Positivity Plus. It's what you want at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: No need for energy drinks. A lot of good stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on. Great to see that positivity in the sector.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to The Muster. Just down from Kennington is Riverton,
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  Speaker 1: the River Era.
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  Speaker 2: Of the South. Geordie Yee, we catch up.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the muster, Geordie Ede Farms at the
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  Speaker 1: Riviera of the South, which is Riverton. Probably a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more water than they're used to around there at
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  Speaker 1: the moment. Geordie, good afternoon, how's things?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, g'day Andy, how you getting on? Yeah, she's a
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  Speaker 7: bit sort of deja vu, same old story, third year
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  Speaker 7: in a row really, but it might be a wee
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  Speaker 7: bit earlier this year.
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  Speaker 1: Is that how you'd summarise conditions to date compared to
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  Speaker 1: the last two springs?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, the last two springs we've got well over
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  Speaker 7: 250 mils pretty much for September, October. But this year
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  Speaker 7: we've got 200 for August. So I'm hoping it's coming
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  Speaker 7: a bit earlier and we're going to get a better
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  Speaker 7: run out at the end, really, to be fair. I hope, anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You've normally got a healthy rainfall there anyway, Geordie. Whereabouts
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  Speaker 1: would you be now in comparison?
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  Speaker 7: We're being on average, really. We're being on average. This
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  Speaker 7: time last year we were behind average, so we always
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  Speaker 7: probably knew that something was coming. So hopefully, you know,
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  Speaker 7: we've been on average where, you know, that should help
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  Speaker 7: some areas. Some degree, hopefully. You know, we've already had
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  Speaker 7: sort of 80, over 80 mils for September. You normally
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  Speaker 7: average around that 200 for September. So, you know, hopefully
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  Speaker 7: we're over halfway there.
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  Speaker 5: That'd be good.
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  Speaker 7: I'll take that.
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  Speaker 1: What are you like for feed there? Because your soil
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  Speaker 1: temperature is over there notoriously high compared to the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the province.
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  Speaker 2: I think today it's around nine degrees.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's been a bit of a challenge. Funny
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  Speaker 7: you say that, because we've probably mowed through more. I
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  Speaker 7: know I've put a bit of nitrogen on for the
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  Speaker 7: sheep farm here this year in the last week or so.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't got as probably much as I have in
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  Speaker 7: the past, and that's the first time I've had to
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  Speaker 7: do that since we've taken over the dairy farm. We
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  Speaker 7: haven't put any nitrogen on the dairy farm yet, just
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  Speaker 7: probably from trying to, you know, when nitrogen's $ 1, 300 a tonne,
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  Speaker 7: you sort of try to utilise its worth, really. And
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  Speaker 7: so maybe in the next couple of weeks, we may
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  Speaker 7: look at putting some on down there. But, you know,
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  Speaker 7: we've had to speed up the round down there, just
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  Speaker 7: the fact of not making pasture damage. We're still leaving
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  Speaker 7: a bit of covers behind, and it's recovering pretty well. So,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we're just, you know, the south and spring,
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  Speaker 7: it just keeps giving, and, you know, it could be
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  Speaker 7: a long road. So you sort of, you don't want
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  Speaker 7: to be mashing it up now.
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  Speaker 2: How's calving gone on the dairy farm?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, gone really well.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we're into the last sort of probably 15%, 20% now. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: so the AI, I think, as of last night, there
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  Speaker 7: was only about three AI cows left to calve. So
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  Speaker 7: we're into the... well, AI replacement cows to calve. So
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  Speaker 7: we're then on to Charolais for a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 7: which is a first try for me. And then we're
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  Speaker 7: into short-shear stations to finish it off.
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  Speaker 2: Charolais, tell us more about that. Sounds interesting.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's sort of something that Beef and Lamb
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  Speaker 7: New Zealand Deer and Deer have been working together to
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  Speaker 7: put the Charolais over the dairy to get that dairy beef.
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  Speaker 7: And the calf comes out all the same colour. So
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  Speaker 7: it certainly creates a good market for those cows, Kiwi
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  Speaker 7: Cross cows, that don't chuck out that Hereford Cross that's
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  Speaker 7: all mottled. They chuck out a more beef calf that,
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  Speaker 7: on dairy and beef and lamb stats, can keep up
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  Speaker 7: with the pure beef, really. So, you know, I think
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  Speaker 7: it's certainly something to look to for the future. I'm
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  Speaker 7: having a bit of a dab. This is only 30-odd,
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  Speaker 7: so we'll see how it goes. Yeah, go into it
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  Speaker 7: and make it a bit bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Well, given the way the beef market is, it's a no-brainer,
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  Speaker 2: I suppose.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, it is.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know a few, I've got a mate in
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  Speaker 7: Canterbury that's been doing it for a while, and he's
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  Speaker 7: actually got contracts for those four-day-old Charolais calves to go
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  Speaker 7: on to. And, you know, that's certainly something that I
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  Speaker 7: think around here that would be quite lucrative for a
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  Speaker 7: rearer to take these Charolais calves because there certainly could
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  Speaker 7: be a good market at the other end for them.
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  Speaker 2: I see.
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  Speaker 7: There's all markets out there for them as yearlings in
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  Speaker 7: that there now, and it's sort of specifying Charolais, Friesian Cross.
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  Speaker 7: or Dairy Cross.
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  Speaker 1: So officially lambing, when is it due to get underway?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we spread out a couple of days ago, so
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  Speaker 7: we're just winding into it. There's not much this morning,
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  Speaker 7: which is quite good, because that was fairly fresh, and
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  Speaker 7: winch will come through there last night. But yeah, we
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  Speaker 7: sort of probably will be in the peak of it
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  Speaker 7: probably early next week, I would say. And then the
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  Speaker 7: hoggets kick off after that, and then we won't have
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: much left by the end of September, really.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when are the hoggets due?
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: They normally kick in about the 22nd of September. I
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: vaccinated them yesterday and split the twins up out of them,
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: so the twins are now separate. So they're just sort
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: of fed ad-lib now. The singles are still on break,
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: and they'll stay on a break pretty much until they're right,
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: until they lamb. Try and keep the size of that
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: lamb down a bit.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I asked Dom Moore just previously about this time of year,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: and he says he actually enjoys it because you can
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: just see the big plan coming together on the farm.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: How do you find it?
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's a whole year's work. And I mean,
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: nobody really realises that, you know, your whole plan for
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: a sheep farm really comes together in these next two,
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: three weeks. And, you know, a bit of weather and
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: pear shape can chuck out. But, yeah, particularly with the hoggarts,
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: you know, we're sort of finding out with our hoggart
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: group that it's all very well scanning them. there's a
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: lot more management goes into getting that lamb survived to
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: the tailing pen and really it's all down to getting
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: the survival of the twins really and that comes from
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: good feeding and maybe a certain ram you put over
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: them but particularly the great feeding and management really leads
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: to it to make it much easier.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Hoggarts are interesting for me, given the way that everybody's
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: embracing them, the way they have. I think Pete Gardine
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: said all those dry hoggarts, he chops their head off,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: he's getting great money too into the 300s. And I've
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: talked about this a bit and probably continue to do
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: so as well. It's just fascinating that the change of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: practice towards hoggarts, especially around breeding.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean, I always had it when I
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: come back home to the farm 23, 24 years ago
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: that I wanted to get my wages out of the hoggarts.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: And so that was, you know, the wages down the hoggarts,
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: but certainly the last three or four years have certainly
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: got a bit more than your wages if we've been
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: paid bloody well. So, yes, it's a big management thing, but,
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, they're quite a good money earner. And then
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: on the side, if you want to work the dry
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: hoggarts like we have done for about the last 15 years,
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: it's quite a good income coming in in August when
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: you need it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I suppose it's something you're learning every year as well.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Learning is a horrible word, but truth be known, when
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it comes to hoggart lambing, you're probably picking up different
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: little things every season.
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, it's good because we've been doing it
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: for 25 years and apart from the group we're still
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: picking up something new every year. There's no doubt since
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: we've formed this group it's got a hell of a
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: lot easier because a lot of people sort of had
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: a go at it a while ago. I think a
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: big key is don't lamb them the same time as
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: you use because they do take a bit more time.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: You get well rewarded for it but they do take
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: a bit more effort and I think it's well rewarded
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: in the end.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Right, there's a bit of code on this week here.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Which game has you more excited, the All Blacks playing
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: averted commas festival game against the Springboks in Baltimore or
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the Stags looking to get their third win in just
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: over 365 days against Bayer Plenty on Sunday?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Or do you have other things to worry about?
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I have only watched the All
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Black games in bits and pieces. I don't fantasise getting
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: up in the middle of the night and watching them now.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: The last Maybe in the middle of winter I might
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: have been a bit more keen, but sort of every
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: hour in the night is pretty precious now to get
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: a bit of sleep as you get into your mid-40s.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: I'd like the Stags to be out of hope, but hell,
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: I always hoped that that year, but hell, yeah, they're
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: just sort of, I don't know. I think we need
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: to be still looking after more of our own homegrown players.
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's the year, I think, but I just, yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I have hope, but... And, you know, being sort of
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: half-by involved in that set-up 20 years ago, I'd hoped
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: that things would have improved a bit. But no, you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: the year of nibs and goof was a good run,
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: but we don't seem to be able to repeat it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Woody Kirkwood starting on Sunday.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: He's a guy who's had a hideous run with injuries,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: but this is a good news story.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: He deserves a shot going in his lock. Yeah, 100%.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: Those are the sort of guys that are big around
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: there too. Jake Boglin was another one that probably had
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: a bit of a dab two or three years ago.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, there is the talent out there.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: You know, the other one was probably Mark Wells. He
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: used to float along there. He was a good one
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: there to fit in along the way, but.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: yeah there's a few coming through that.
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: Academy you know we've got a what are we third
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: or fourth year of the Southam boys doing really well
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: in the first 15 but we just don't seem to
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: be able to flow it on to the stags hopefully
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: you know it might be still in the future we'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: see Yeah, it's interesting.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'll just finish with this thought.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, when they started this competition, there was 14
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: debutantes in that squad, and we're getting told that, yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: they need to click. It's not going to happen overnight.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, we're being told the MPC
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: is a sprint, not a marathon. It happened so quickly,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and it's finished again.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So we can only live in hope, Geordie. That's all
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: we can.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Do, right?
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they live in hope too. It just probably disappoints
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: me that some of those players come and you can
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: tell by the look of them that they're not fit. And,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, you've got to hit that ground running and
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: you need.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: To be fit.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: You know, there's no use doing fitness this time of
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: the year. You need to be fit when they arrive.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: And I think that's the challenge to this modern game
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: is being fit.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Go and get them on the lambing beat for a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: couple of days and give them a dose of Southern
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Life Geordie.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Always good to catch up.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, 100%. Colin Meads Fitness. Cheers, Andy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: G'day.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Geordie Yead, farming over at the self-proclaimed Riviera of the South,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: which is Riverton. You're listening to The Muster. Donna Hamilton
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: is up next from Beef and Lab New Zealand.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: The Muster's animal health segment with NS Vets.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Adding value through practical advice and service. No gimmicks, no potions,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: total vet care. In the Beef and Lab slot this
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: afternoon is Donna Hamilton. We're talking about... So autopsies on
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: lambs and the likes.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is at this time of year,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: livestock can equate to dead stock as well.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: But just why are some of these lambs dying?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, the weather isn't flash, but every now
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and then you sit there and ponder why a lamb
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: just keels over for no apparent reason. So Donna's going
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to give us a bit of an understanding about autopsies
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: on lambs and what actually we're trying to delve into
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: with information.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Donna. Thanks for joining us again.
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: Hi, Andy. Good to be back.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Lamb post-mortems, it's.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, when lambs die, you sit there and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: do ponders sometimes, and you silly bugger, you were full
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: last night, what's the go?
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: That's right, and sometimes, you know, you do just come
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: away shaking your head, thinking, I don't know why you died,
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: but sometimes you can gain some really good information by
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: having a look at those lambs and seeing what's going
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: on in there. So we have done a recent With
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: Beef and Lamb workshop at Geoff Farm the other day,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago, and there was a great
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: number of farmers turn out to find out how they
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: can do the postmortems themselves or see what can be
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: gained from doing postmortems. So yeah, there is lots to
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: be gained by looking at some dead lambs. So you
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: can do a couple of different things with, working out
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: which ones you're going to post-mortem. And it's worth having
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: a chat to your vet to work out what's going
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: to give you the best information, but also what's actually
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: practical for you to do. And it might just be
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: doing a bunch one day and then going from there.
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: But it certainly is worthwhile having a look in 20
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: to 30 lambs or more to see why they've died
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: and at what stage they've died. And we can gain
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: a bit of that information from that. getting a scalpel
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: or a knife out and some scales and having a
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: look at them.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Doing a post-mortem on a lamb yourself, it's just a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: big lesson in.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Biology, I'd imagine.
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: It is, yes, absolutely. And our farmers don't generally look
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: at animals like this, but they are used to doing
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: dog tuckers and killing the odd animal and having a
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: look inside them. So there might be a bit of
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: interest sparked then or have some kids keen to have
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: a look. But yes, you can have a wee look. Well,
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: we start with what's happening on the outside for a start.
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: So initially, first thing is that we weigh them, get
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: a weight on them. And you can use like the
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: old dial kitchen scales with the dial on them. They're
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: really handy. But you could use like a fish weight
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: weighing scale or a luggage set of scales. So we
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: get a weight on them. So recording just weights. If
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: that was the only thing you did, you'd actually still
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: gain some really useful information. So getting a weight's helpful.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: Then have a look at their feet. If they've got
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: little slippers on, so the little membrane across their feet
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: comes out like a little padding over the feet. And
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: once they stand up, that comes off. So that's an
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: indication as to whether they've stood or not. you'd be
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: able to have a check for them to see if
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: they've got any swelling or if they've got any yellow discolouration,
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: which can indicate that they've taken a little bit of
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: time to get born, but too long, possibly. And you
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: can feel what's happening with their navel cord.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: A lot of hot boxes going at the moment.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: At the moment, as people try and look after those
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: cold lambs, hypothermic lambs, and give them that boost to
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: keep them alive, what's some good things to remember around this?
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, these cold lambs, the first thing they need to
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: do is have some energy so that they can warm up.
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: And so you could be actively warming them up, but
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: by doing that, you're just potentially using the last of
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: the energy. And so we would encourage people to consider
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: using a dextrose injection into the abdomen before they get
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: into the warming up room or into the truck, however
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: you like to warm them up. So giving them that
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: energy source before you warm them is really important. So
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: we did this as a demonstration at Jeff Farm last
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: week and the farmers who, you know, some farmers said
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: to me, oh, that looks heaps easier than I thought
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: it would be. And somebody else said, oh, that's amazing stuff.
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: It just about brings them back from dead. So it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: a form of basically sugar into the abdomen in a
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: form that they can use. And you don't have to be,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: too precise on how you do it you just inject
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: it just above the navel and yeah you can you
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: can really bring these animals back to life by giving
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: them some energy and then warming them up and then
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: give them a feed of milk but you can also
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: use it on a cold afternoon or an evening where
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: you think oh gosh that little guy come out bad
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: timing mate because it's some horrible weather coming just pop
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: some in and then leave mum to look after them. And,
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: you know, sometimes they can result in, you know, much
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: better paddock survival when they come out the next day. So, yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: there's some fact sheets on Beef and Land website and
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: most of your clinics will have some sheets around how
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: to do it and sell the dextrose, which does actually
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: need to be diluted, but that's included in your instructions there.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people tube lambs. Do you recommend injecting?
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would give that injection initially because the tubing
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: is providing a food source, but the lamb's actually got
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: to process that, and the dextrose injection around the gut
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: is readily available for them to use. So you would
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: give the dextrose, warm them up, and then give them
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: a feed. and you can chew them if you need to, or,
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: you know, hopefully they might have perked up enough to
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: have a suckle.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, hoping the weather settles down, Donna, and we can
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: go back to having a bit of big yellow in
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the sky.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, as always.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: Wouldn't that be great?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: Good luck to everybody out there.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Andy.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Donna Hamilton in the beef and lamb slot.
• 27:31
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• 27:35
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• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Daniel O'Regan's up next, and before the end of the hour,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Nathan Burden.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Thanks, yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: This is the muster on Hokanui. We're away to Telford now,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of course, just out of Balclutha. We are catching up
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: with Daniel O'Regan, the general manager of AgriFutures. There's a big, well,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it's like a mini Young Farmer of the Year for
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: school kids happening at Telford today.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Daniel, thanks for joining us on the muster. It sounds
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: like it's pretty busy.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: It is. Yeah, we've got about, oh, maybe about 250 kids.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: It's a bit lower this year than last year, thanks
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: to influenza A. That's sort of ravaging our schools at
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: the moment. But we've still got a good number of
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: students coming and about 18 secondary schools from Waitaki Girls
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: in the North through to Fiordland College and everywhere in between.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Now Clash of the Colleges, as this has been dubbed,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: what's the basis around it?
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: We're part of the New Zealand Rural Games Trust and
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: many years ago we had a chair who was a
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: former teacher and she challenged us because we're pretty good
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: at rural games in Palmerston North, used to be in Queenstown,
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: and it's That's really good at working with families and,
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: you know, grandparents and kids and parents' kids, but it
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: wasn't too great with the youth. So she challenged us
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: to come up with a concept, and we developed the
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Clash of the Colleges and started six years ago in Palmy,
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: and now that's moved to five, six locations around the country.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Talbot will be here three years in a row now,
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: and it's basically... 16 to 17 modules. Students get six
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: minutes at each. It's a pan sector, so it covers everything.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: Resolution Apps has joined us this year, so they're doing
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: a little bit of health and safety, but also digital
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: paddocks as well. Silver Fern Farms put on barbecue. Fingard's amazing.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: And they've also got a meat module. Thoroughbred Racing's down
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: from North Island, so they've got a hobby horse race
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: and a few questions around thoroughbred racing. And Telford's doing
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: the old handpiece thing. and quad bike tyre change. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: we've also got Zenterra here doing a fine wall module.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: CRV and Salmon are doing a joint genetics module. Otago
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Polytechnic's got an arborist one, you know, not tying. And
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: then the central campus has turned up and created a
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: Vintner one. And no, the kids don't have to drink alcohol.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: They do get to make a sniff test. It's wine glasses,
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: but it's not wine inside them. It's just different smells
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: that you can have incorporated into wine and get the
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: students to identify those.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Daniel, we've seen young farmers with a real renaissance in
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the past 18 to 24 months, especially down here in
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the south. Do you think agriculture is becoming sexy again
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: for younger people?
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah. We pulled this together and created it back in
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: the 2000s and that sort of stuff. And some audience
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: will know there was a lot of stuff about climate
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: change and all that sort of stuff, street kids' purchases.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: And there was a bit of shame associated with being
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: in food and fibre industry. And that's where we sort
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: of came along. And we created this program to do
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: it in school time because we know all of us
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: involved grew up on farms and we all know the
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: pressures farming families are under. And you can't compete with
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: rugby and netball and drama and all that sort of stuff.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: So we do it in school time and we create
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: modules that are relevant to the curriculum. And we also
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: create modules that teachers can use back in the classroom that, again,
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: relate back to the curriculum. So it's all free, thanks
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: to lovely sponsors, Land Based Training's in there, Rabobank's in there,
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: Massey University and Ford. Got me a little van that
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: I travel the country in and pack it up with
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: all my gear. And, yeah, we go from Telford, got
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: Canterbury next week, got students from Timaru through to Richmond
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: going to that one. So every year it just gets
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: a little bit bigger. We're trying to grow slow. because
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: there's only so much money in the budget, and every
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: year we try to add on a new location.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Now, you're in an area where farming is notoriously popular.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: What about further up north with the denser population bases?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Are you getting buy-in in those regions?
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is the best clash that we have.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: The schools get it. They know it. It's taught in
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: every school. Where I'm from, which is sort of mid-central
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: North Island, around Palmerston North and Whanganui, There's very few schools.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: So up there, there's Fielding High, Palmer Boys, over in Wairarapa,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: there's Rathkill, and they're super houses of Agateport. But, you know,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: all your other schools are really.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Low on it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: We've just got a pilot with the Ministry of Social Development,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: and we're in four schools in the section north, in
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Te Oti, Hachipaura, QEC, and Palmerston North Girls, and we're
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: doing a 10-week programme. getting these kids interested. They've got
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: kids there that are interested, they just can't access Ag
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: and Health. And what we're trying to do is prove
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: to the schools that there's a demand, and then we
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: hand them over to the land-based trainings, we hand them
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: over to the primary ITOs, build up the interest, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: then channel that interest into something, a program that they
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: can get credits on. Southland Otago is the powerhouse. Canterbury's
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: a little bit, one or two parmas north, that picks
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: up again, and Waikato's big, Taranaki's big, But we were
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: in South Auckland, and it's getting bigger in South Auckland.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Like the Pukakoes and the Papatoetoe, they're starting to turn up,
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: which is absolutely amazing. Beforehand, it was pretty much Mount
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Albert Grabber was the powerhouse up there, because they've got
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: their own farm in the centre of Auckland, which is
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: just stunning but unbelievable. And now, this year, we added
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: by a plenty, and the majority of the schools came
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: from Waikato to take part, so... Got a little bit
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: of work there to get those Bay of Plenty schools.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I suppose it's one thing getting buy-in from the students,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: but it's another one getting it from the teachers as well.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely. And you're competing against a whole lot of
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: other stuff that's going on. But what we do is free.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Doesn't cost the schools. All they've got to do is
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: pay for transportation. All the module holders are here. They
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: are here for free. Everyone's just generous, giving time, and
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: we don't want any cost on farming families. We don't
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: want any cost on schools. And that's how we sort
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: of break into them.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: So how does the day conclude? What happens to finish up?
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: So we've got Minister Andrew Hoggard, Minister Mark Patterson, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: the local MP for Tauri, Ingrid Leary, are turning up,
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: and they're going to help with the prize giving, as
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: well as the head of the farm manager here from Telford.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: we have a barbecue to feed them and then Tangaroa
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: Walker is our MC and he runs the Hunger Games
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: and there's usually a lot of screaming involved with that
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: and the kids are going to have to I think
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: go under some jumping poles and jump poles for the
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: horses and then it's basically eat a cold pie drink
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: a glass of milk and turn around about 30 times
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: it's usually a bit.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Of fun.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Hey, good on you, Daniel.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Thanks for your time this afternoon. St Kevin's boy done good.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Good to catch up with you, mate.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: All the best.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: I got you, man.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Good chat.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Daniel O'Regan of AgriFutures. Great to see these events that
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: are going on. And like Daniel alluded there, the South
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: very much driving these numbers for young people. And this
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: is where it flows on to the young farmers movement
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: as well, as I keep talking about. Our resident sporting guru,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Nathan Burden, is up next. The Stags have got a
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: bit of local blood going in there on Sunday.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Terry Flakes!
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: Terry Flakes!
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Terry Flakes!
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Terry Flakes!
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the muster. Southland Rural Support Trust presents
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Brunch On Us. These events are occurring over the next
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks in various locations around the province. So
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: take the opportunity if they're coming to your area to
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: take a bit of time off farm while the hard
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: yak is going about and go and connect with people,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: have a coffee and a snag on them. So details
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: are on the Facebook page as well. Southland Rural Support
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Trust doing a great job at the moment. Our resident
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: sporting guru is Nathan Burden. Good afternoon, Nath.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Straight off the cuff, Woody Kirkwood is back for the Stags.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: This is the redemption story we want.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just possibly, well, not possibly, definitely the unluckiest man
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: in Southland rugby by some margin. He had two seasons
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: blighted by knee injuries and he's just worked so hard
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: to and shown so much resilience to get himself back
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: into a position where the Stags can name him in
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the starting line-up for this game against Bay of Plenty. So,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'll have my fingers and toes and everything crossed,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: hoping that he can get the debut. I guess this
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: will hopefully be the actual debut, get the debut that
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: he deserves after all the hard work that he's done.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I'm just chuffed to see a country player starting for
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: the Stags.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was such a great story in 2025.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: A guy that, you know, he's on the tools all day,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: but he's still putting in that effort to get to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the gym early mornings, getting to trainings after work, doing
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: all that hard work to earn himself a contract in 2025,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: and then gets injured in the pre-season game, has to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: miss the whole Stags campaign. And then exactly the same
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: thing happens again. Misses and can't play any club footy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So great that the stag's off the back of it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: A couple of what I'm hearing, some quite impressive performances
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: for South and Country. He's earned himself a spot in
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: the Marine jersey for for the game on Sunday. So, yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: go well, Big Woody.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his dad, Herop, he's not the best rugby watcher,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: he's told me himself. It was bad enough for the Barbers,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: so he'll be doing a bit of pacing up and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: down at Rugby Park. But, look, Woody, all the best.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: And on the Smith the Stags as well after last week. Well,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: let's be honest, the less said the better. I gave
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: up at half-time.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no positives really to put on that performances there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: It was a really.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Disappointing outing in Pukekohe and I think if you talked
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: to any of the players or any of the people
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: involved in the management of the team, they wouldn't be
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: hiding away from that. It would have been, and I
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: understand it was, a fairly open and frank review on
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: the Monday. But I guess the best thing about sport
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: is you only have to wait for a week to
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: turn it all around. But it is a bit of
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: a challenge. This is a strong Bay of Plenty team
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: that will be coming down. Possibly not as strong as
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: they have been for the last couple of years, but
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: definitely a talented side for all of that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, I'll wait and skip
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to the interview with Sean Withey. At the end of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the show, I was going to call it, it was
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a show in the second half,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: but he looked genuinely grumpy.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: He looked really frustrated. That's what you want.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's the Stags and we're going to struggle,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but the fact that Withey wants to, he was so
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: grumpy in that interview.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I liked.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, Sean Withey's just one of those wholehearted.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just gets stuck in, doesn't he? If you
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: had 15 Sean Withies, then you probably wouldn't have a
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: performance like we had against counties. But just the mistakes
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: were so hard to watch, weren't they? And the Stags
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: actually put themselves in position. to score on numerous occasions,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: but it just seemed like it was sort of cut
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: and paste. They'd get themselves into the 22 or even
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: within 10 metres of the goal line and just managed
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: to come up with a fumble or some sort of turnover.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: And then on the other side of the ball, the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: defence just wasn't good enough for a representative team in
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the first division of the MPC, and the scoreline showed that.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: The All Blacks have got this, arguably, an exhibition game
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: against the Springboks in Baltimore.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Are you reading much into this?
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Well, it's... You know, it's a money spinner for New
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Zealand rugby and for South African rugby. It feels like
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: a bit of a bolt-on. Originally, this was always talked
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: about as a four-test series, and then all week we
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: were told it's actually a three-test series in South Africa
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: plus one game in Baltimore. It'll be interesting to see
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: how the whole thing unfolds in another attempt, I suppose,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: to roll out a game in the States and get
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: a bit of buzz going over there so the All
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Blacks need a win, let's be honest but it'll be
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: some sort of challenge considering some of the personnel that
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: they'll be missing particularly Artie Savia, there'll be quite a
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: rejig when that team gets named obviously the loose forwards,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: the midfield are going to need some sort of a
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: rejig there. Will it be Richie Mowanger's chance to come
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: back into that all-black jersey? So, yeah, there'll definitely be
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: enough storylines to keep us interested.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: New Zealand Warriors, they're in the playoffs. They've got the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Dolphins at Mount Smart, although if their next game, because
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: they've got two bites of the cherry at home, qualifying second,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the next game, by the sound of it, is going
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: to be at Eden Park, courtesy of Peter Volandis, who
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: pretty much runs the NRL.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: It's all about the money.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, two bites of the cherry.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: But, gee, they'd love to win this one and give
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: themselves a week off and guarantee that next home game,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: wouldn't they?
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: That would be a great outcome.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: The Dolphins, lots of pressure on them, their first ever
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: playoff game. So, yeah, this will be, I mean, the
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: occasion's going to be huge. Just talking to someone this
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: morning who was at the last round Robin game and
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: just buzzing about the crowd atmosphere. that they get there
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: at Mount Smart or Go Media. So, yeah, it is
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a shame that they'll, you know, it almost seems inevitable
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: that they're going to be changing venues, but the mighty
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: dollar definitely plays a part in this day and age,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: doesn't it?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: It's interesting the rhetoric coming out of the Australian media
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: claiming the Warriors are just schmuzzling all over Rugby Union
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: at the moment. It's not getting to that point, but
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: you can't argue the fact the Warriors are getting a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: lot more airtime.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, and I think a lot of it is
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: the type of game, and the Warriors have just been
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: so consistent all season, haven't they? This is not a
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: team that in those other years that we remember where
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: the Warriors did make the playoffs and got into this situation,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: they got there by some razzle-dazzle at the right sort
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of times and some results going their way, but the
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Warriors have well and truly earned their place in that
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: top two and playing just some really great, colourful football.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: You don't have to be a league fan necessarily to
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: want to switch on and watch them each week. They're
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: just a great entertainment package and watching them play at
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: home in front of their home crowd and the way
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: they engage with their people is just a joy to watch.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: It's been a great season and I'd love to see
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: them kick on.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Just finally as well, we'll touch on this. I had
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Murray Heath on the show yesterday. You guys had him
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: on your rural podcast this week.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: The Get Together, the 1970s Southland team.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd love to be a fly on the wall
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: for this reunion, wouldn't you? Although it'll be a big
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: shift over the weekend for these guys, but the stories
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: are going to be great, and what a joy to
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: bring that generation back together, probably for one last time,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: and hopefully this is sort of a sign of things
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: to come, that the union and people who are good
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: at organising these things, like Heathie, who's just a a
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: legend when it comes to bringing people together. This is
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: something that they can continue with in the future.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Good on you, Nathan. Enjoy the weekend. Dantlers up.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Dantlers up, mate.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Laugh out loud with Ag Proud, because life on the
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: land can be a laughing matter.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Brought to us by Shearwell Data, working to help the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: livestock farmer. Two cannibal friends were sitting together over lunch,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: politely sipping their afternoon tea. One looked across the table
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and asked, hey, word around the village is that you
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and your boyfriend had a massive blowout argument last night.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, she nodded. It was dreadful. So where do
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: things stand between the two of you right now? The
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: woman paused.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Took a delicate sip from a teacup, smiled and replied, well,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: right now, I'm just letting him stew. I reckon we
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: might do an extended dad joke session tomorrow because we can, right?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: That's us for the afternoon anyway. I'm Andy Muir.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: The show is brought to you by Peter's Genetics. You have,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: of course, been listening to The Muster. Potty's up shortly.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: See you tomorrow.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: PGG writes and presents stock selling action that occurred at
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the Charlton sale yard this morning.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: David Morrison's on the ground to give us a rundown
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: on prices. Good afternoon, Teagle. How did we go?
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Good afternoon, Andy. Yeah, it looked pretty good. Not a
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: big galley near today. Obviously just that time of year,
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: but we'll just start with the lambs. The best of
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: the lambs, very, very, very big lambs. 440 to 450.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: The top, obviously, the very top end.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: And then into the middle end, also very good lambs.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Sort of range from sort of 250 to 280, um,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: with the light of the prime lamps around the sort
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: of 200 to 230. Uh, but like I said, small
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: yardage there today. Uh, no rams to talk about today. Uh,
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: into the mutton section. Mutton's very, very strong at the moment. Um, uh,
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: big year we used up over 300. Uh, medium use,
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: sort of early 200s. Um, and just with the lighter end,
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: still just around the sort of 130 to 140, but, uh,
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Good demand. Unfortunately, supply is short. Store lambs, yeah, badly
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: near a wee bit now. Yeah, the buying power for
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: the lambs has dried up. The best of the store
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: lambs today, 170 to 180. Mediums for 120 to 140.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: And the very, very, very poor lambs, the lambs not
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: really wanted at all, and it's for $ 80 to $ 90.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: And that wraps it up, Andy.