Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Germany working with partners to help end Iran war
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's not just the United States that dealing with rising
- 0:04Speaker 1: costs related to the Iran War. People all over the
- 0:07Speaker 1: world are worried about higher energy bills. Here in Germany,
- 0:10Speaker 1: Chancellor public Metz was grilled about Berlin's position. During Wednesday's
- 0:15Speaker 1: session in parliament, Matts announced that his government was considering
- 0:19Speaker 1: economic measures to help Germans deal with price rises stemming
- 0:22Speaker 1: from the war, but he warned that consumers would have
- 0:25Speaker 1: to bear some of the burden the higher costs mass
- 0:31Speaker 1: His remarks came a day after his government came in
- 0:34Speaker 1: for some rare criticism by Germany's largely symbolic President, Frank
- 0:38Speaker 1: potsos Steinmeier. He said Berlin should be speaking out more
- 0:42Speaker 1: more forcefully against the US and Israeli war in Iran.
- 0:46Speaker 1: In parliament, Chancellor Motz said he was trying to help
- 0:49Speaker 1: end the conflict.
- 0:52Speaker 2: I mean, in close consultation with colleagues from the European
- 0:55Speaker 2: Union and other countries including Britain and Norway. We're trying
- 0:59Speaker 2: to do everything we can to persuade the United States
- 1:01Speaker 2: and Israel to seek a diplomatic solution to this war.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Some of the things being said don't make sense to
- 1:08Speaker 2: us from a strategic vantage point. So we are trying
- 1:11Speaker 2: to use our influence within the EU and other bodies
- 1:14Speaker 2: to help bring about an end to the wars. But
- 1:17Speaker 2: that requires willingness on all sides, including from Iran, which
- 1:20Speaker 2: doesn't seem willing right now. Iran they often.
- 1:27Speaker 1: For more on this, we're joined now by d WSGI
- 1:29Speaker 1: political editor Mikhela Kufna. Miquila. Chancellor out says he and
- 1:33Speaker 1: his European colleagues are trying to persuade the US and
- 1:36Speaker 1: Israel to pursue a diplomatic solution to the war. Did
- 1:40Speaker 1: he offer any details today about what exactly Germany and
- 1:43Speaker 1: its partners are doing in that regard.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Well, clearly they are in contact with the United States
- 1:51Speaker 3: and just don't remind us all that there's still are
- 1:54Speaker 3: conflicting reports between Iran and the US where the talks
- 1:57Speaker 3: are actually taking place. So in a position to resolve that,
- 2:01Speaker 3: and that's also something that the German chances recognized here
- 2:05Speaker 3: that they don't have the full inside. But clearly the
- 2:08Speaker 3: Europeans have been willing to offer whatever diplomatic avenues they
- 2:12Speaker 3: have to help the United States and Israel, who are
- 2:16Speaker 3: clearly set on their own path. Whatever that may be
- 2:20Speaker 3: in detail. Clearly the Europeans and Germany with them, are
- 2:24Speaker 3: struggling to keep up with what is the actual strategic thinking.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Having also seen in that statement we just heard, but
- 2:33Speaker 3: also in the past, some mild criticism that there is
- 2:38Speaker 3: no real that the German chancer isn't really convinced that
- 2:41Speaker 3: there is a strategy for day one after the fighting.
- 2:46Speaker 3: And this is a lingering concern here in Germany and
- 2:49Speaker 3: in Europe as the entire world is increasingly feeling the
- 2:53Speaker 3: fallout of this war, which is seeing soaring energy prices.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Indeed, like other countries, Germany is feeling the economic impact
- 3:04Speaker 1: of the war, particularly from those higher energy prices you mentioned.
- 3:07Speaker 1: What did the Chancellor have to say about that, Well.
- 3:13Speaker 3: He basically pointed at the action that the government is
- 3:16Speaker 3: panning on taking. It's being decided in Parliament this week
- 3:20Speaker 3: to have a closer eye on those price rises. We
- 3:25Speaker 3: did hear that energy companies here in Germany had a
- 3:30Speaker 3: disastrous meeting with politicians and political representatives really struggling to
- 3:37Speaker 3: explain those stern price spikes which are seeing some of
- 3:41Speaker 3: the highest prices at the gas station here in Germany
- 3:44Speaker 3: in the whole of Europe. What we are unlikely to
- 3:48Speaker 3: see is the government subsidizing energy. There's an experience in
- 3:53Speaker 3: the past over the war with Ukraine, when the government
- 3:57Speaker 3: did pour billions into so oftening the blow when it
- 4:01Speaker 3: came to energy, and most of that money ended up
- 4:04Speaker 3: being a profit for energy companies rather than softening the
- 4:08Speaker 3: blow for consumers. And that's really the stretch, the real
- 4:13Speaker 3: contradiction that the government is operating within.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Nikaitla, I want to ask you about something else. Yesterday,
- 4:21Speaker 1: the German President plant Pethtersteinmyer delivered a speech sharply criticizing
- 4:25Speaker 1: President Trump for starting the war in Iran. Did the
- 4:29Speaker 1: Chancellor Mounts offer a response to that.
- 4:35Speaker 3: He didn't, because no MP asked him during an entire
- 4:39Speaker 3: hour of question time. We've done as we're looking at
- 4:42Speaker 3: each other somewhat in disbelief over that lack of a
- 4:46Speaker 3: key question that everybody was asking themselves. We did hear
- 4:49Speaker 3: from the parliamentary Conservative Parliamentary Group leader Jen Spahn yesterday
- 4:55Speaker 3: and he did say that it was up to the
- 4:57Speaker 3: government to define policy into to really have a position
- 5:01Speaker 3: on that. Because it is also very easy to confuse
- 5:05Speaker 3: the role of the German president with the German Chancellor.
- 5:07Speaker 3: But it's important to note that the German President, while
- 5:10Speaker 3: being the head of state, has a largely ceremonial role
- 5:14Speaker 3: and is disconnected from the actual political positioning of Germany,
- 5:19Speaker 3: that is the business of the German government led by
- 5:22Speaker 3: Friedrich Maatz. He basically got away with without having to
- 5:26Speaker 3: offer an answer on this question, but it does show
- 5:30Speaker 3: a deep gulf in the public portrayal of the German
- 5:35Speaker 3: position between the German president and the chancellor, and that
- 5:40Speaker 3: really shouldn't be the case. The role of the German
- 5:43Speaker 3: president is traditionally and constitutionally an apolitical one.
- 5:49Speaker 1: German Chancellor Fudlich Mattz, of course, he's trying to lead
- 5:53Speaker 1: Germany through a very difficult time. What Germany does as
- 5:58Speaker 1: Europe's largest ECONO me and given his geographical position, is
- 6:03Speaker 1: hugely important for the rest of Europe and potentially the world.
- 6:07Speaker 1: What else did the Chancellor have to say today in
- 6:10Speaker 1: that hour of answering questions that might be event restore
- 6:12Speaker 1: our international viewer as Mikayla, Well.
- 6:17Speaker 3: What was interesting that particularly ran there? He has shifted
- 6:21Speaker 3: his position slightly. He went from describing a dilemma to
- 6:26Speaker 3: now saying that, of course Germany would have to pull
- 6:28Speaker 3: its weight when it comes to securing the Strait of
- 6:31Speaker 3: Horror moves. He was asked about a fuel prices and said, well,
- 6:34Speaker 3: that's the reason why we need to get this war
- 6:35Speaker 3: ended as fast as possible. But he says all of
- 6:38Speaker 3: this in the knowledge and the awareness in Parliament that
- 6:42Speaker 3: he would need a mandate from the Parliament and it
- 6:45Speaker 3: would have to be also under an international mandate. Germany
- 6:49Speaker 3: cannot act Alan if it were to deploy ships or
- 6:52Speaker 3: anything any kind of forces abroad, and that would be
- 6:56Speaker 3: a hurdle to take. And I think that spat between
- 6:59Speaker 3: the President, who who comes originally from the Social Democrats,
- 7:03Speaker 3: who himself is a former foreign minister, and the sitting
- 7:07Speaker 3: Chancellor highlights that this would not be a parliamentary walk
- 7:11Speaker 3: in the park for Fillis Matz necessarily despite the fact
- 7:14Speaker 3: of being in a coalition with the Social Democrats.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Mikita, thank you very much. Our chief political editor, Mikita
- 7:21Speaker 1: Kuifner