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The Kenny Report | 27 July · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. Welcome to another week here on
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  Speaker 2: the Kenny Report. The first week on News twenty four. Tonight,
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  Speaker 2: Labored tries a switch to full voters in Victoria. Surely
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  Speaker 2: nobody will fall for that. One Federal Labor again gives
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  Speaker 2: sucker to the terrorists of Hummas and demonizes Israel. I'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to former Federal Labor MP Michael Danby higher taxes,
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  Speaker 2: higher interest rates and surprise, surprise, real estate sales are plummeting.
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  Speaker 3: I'll get the latest from the Coal Face.
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  Speaker 2: I'll also check in on the Commonwealth Games and the
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  Speaker 2: anti immigration protests in Glasgow with Sophie Ellsworth, and with
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  Speaker 2: Gemma and Caroline will discuss the Prime Minister's secrecy over
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  Speaker 2: dinner with the son of a billionaire.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Political turmoil is unfolding in Melbourne as we speak, with
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  Speaker 2: Labor Premier just into Allen's leadership going through it's death throws.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have plenty of analysis of the political and factional
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  Speaker 2: details of all of this tonight, but I want to
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  Speaker 2: start off with a different point, a more important point,
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  Speaker 2: and that is that these labor politicians are treating voters
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  Speaker 2: like fools. They're playing voters for mugs. Nothing they do
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  Speaker 2: is going to do anything positive for Victorians, for the government,
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  Speaker 2: or for their future. It's all about trying to fool
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  Speaker 2: more voters into sticking with Labor in the hope that
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  Speaker 2: they can keep as many seats as possible in Parliament
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  Speaker 2: after November's election in opposition, presumably because surely they can't
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  Speaker 2: be deluded enough to think that they'll be returned in government.
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  Speaker 2: Just have a look at what this mob has done.
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  Speaker 2: Under Daniel Andrews. Labor ruled in Victoria with seemingly unfettered
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  Speaker 2: power for almost a decade. Chairman Dan didn't just send
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  Speaker 2: the state broke, chalk up mountainous debt, do dodgy deals
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  Speaker 2: with and pay hundreds of millions of dollars not to
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  Speaker 2: build not to build a tunnel, and hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars more not to host the Commonwealth Games.
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  Speaker 3: But he also locked down Melbourne more than any city
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  Speaker 3: in the.
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  Speaker 2: World during COVID, locked some people in their tower blocks,
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  Speaker 2: and subjected millions of people to unnecessary, unscientific curfews. And
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  Speaker 2: when all of this started to catch up with Labor,
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  Speaker 2: he resigned and Labor thought it could skate through under
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  Speaker 2: a new face, just into Allen with the opposition in
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  Speaker 2: the shambles. It worked for a while, but now with
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  Speaker 2: the election looming, Labor again realizes it's on the nose
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  Speaker 2: and hey, presto. Instead of governing better or taking what's coming, Labor.
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  Speaker 3: Looks for the old switcheroo.
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  Speaker 2: If they knife Allen and install her deputy Ben Carroll,
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  Speaker 2: they'll be hoping for a lift in the polls, a
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  Speaker 2: honeymoon effect. They'll pretend they could stay and government, and
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  Speaker 2: they'll try to con more voters into sticking with them.
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  Speaker 3: Don't fall for it.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same unions, the same factions, the same power
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  Speaker 2: brokers calling the shots. It's the same policies, the same
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  Speaker 2: wrong priorities, the same crime wave, the same potholes, and
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  Speaker 2: the same ideology holding sway. They are taking voters for fools,
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  Speaker 2: making a superficial change in a desperate bid for votes.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it'll work. Voters tend to be a
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  Speaker 3: little smarter than that.
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  Speaker 2: Just eight months after the horrific murders at Bondai, the
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  Speaker 2: worst terror attack on Australian soil, when fifteen innocent people
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  Speaker 2: were slaughtered and dozens of others seriously injured in what
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  Speaker 2: police allege was an Islamic state inspired atrocity directed at
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  Speaker 2: a Jewish Australian Hunaker celebration. Well just eight months after that,
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  Speaker 2: the Australian Labor Party, the party that governs nationally and
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  Speaker 2: in New South Wales, changes to its national platform that
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  Speaker 2: provide sukker to the Islamist extremists of Hummas that demonize Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and therefore these changes fanned the flames of anti Semitism
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  Speaker 2: in this country. Now the Prime Minister and the Labor
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  Speaker 2: Party are trying to argue they did a good job
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  Speaker 2: because the ALP position is not as bad as it
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  Speaker 2: could have been. You know, they play word games by
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  Speaker 2: saying that sure, while they didn't call for Humas to
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  Speaker 2: be disarmed, they did condemn terrorism more broadly, and they
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  Speaker 2: rejected a bid by Sydney MP Ed Husick, who has
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  Speaker 2: no special connection to this issue except that he's Muslim. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Husick wanted an amendment that would have falsely accused Israel
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  Speaker 2: of genocide and war crimes and imposed trade and diplomatic sanctions,
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  Speaker 2: and the Labor power brokers rightly blocked this move. But
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  Speaker 2: really they called that a win Labour stopped short of
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  Speaker 2: indoor hateful lies against Israel, and they deserve credit for
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  Speaker 2: that restraint.
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  Speaker 4: Look what I say is that the party platform has
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  Speaker 4: got the balance right.
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  Speaker 2: Got the balance right, Anthony albineas he thinks the right
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  Speaker 2: balance is resisting a push to slur Israel with false
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  Speaker 2: claims of war crimes and genocide and at the same
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  Speaker 2: time failing to demand that the Islamist terrorists of Hamas
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  Speaker 2: lay down their arms.
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  Speaker 3: That's not balance.
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  Speaker 2: It's foreign policy that fails to stand up for Australian values,
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  Speaker 2: for humanitarian norms and for our democratic and rules based
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  Speaker 2: ally in Israel. And you don't have to take my
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  Speaker 2: word for what Labor has demonstrated.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at what former Army colonel and former
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  Speaker 2: Federal Labour MP and Junior Defense Minister Mike Kelly has
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  Speaker 2: written in The Australian.
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  Speaker 3: He sums it up like this.
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  Speaker 2: Emerging from last weeks ALP national conference, it is impossible
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  Speaker 2: to escape the conclusion that there are troubling sections within
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  Speaker 2: the broader Labor movement intent on fanning extreme views on
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  Speaker 2: Israel and the Middle East conflict. They are not worthy
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  Speaker 2: of the Labour Party certainly not worthy of a party
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  Speaker 2: in government. Those words are from a senior Labor figure,
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  Speaker 2: and Kelly is worried about the position Labour adopted, saying
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  Speaker 2: equally concerning the amendments, adopt a demonstrably false narrative that
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  Speaker 2: Israel has failed in its obligations on relief and medical support,
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  Speaker 2: while ignoring Humas's documented obstruction of aid. And Kelly also
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  Speaker 2: makes a telling observation about where all of this inevitably leads.
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  Speaker 2: The amended platform's disproportionate focus on Israel and Palestine at
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  Speaker 2: the expense of other global conflicts reveals an obsession explicable
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  Speaker 2: only as anti Semitism and serving other malign interests. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Kelly is no right wing warrior. He's a labor
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  Speaker 2: man through and through, a former front bencher. This is
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  Speaker 2: deeply worrying stuff. He's just dead right on this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's just more evidence that Labour is culpable for the
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  Speaker 2: failing social cohesion in this country, that it has contributed
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  Speaker 2: to the demonization of Israel, rewarded terrorism in its Middle East,
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  Speaker 2: rewarded terrorism in the Middle East with its diplomacy, and
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  Speaker 2: failed to adequately combat Islamist extremism and anti Semitism at
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  Speaker 2: home here in Australia. Events in Berlin on the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: when an alleged terrorist drove his car into a gay
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  Speaker 2: Pride march remind us of.
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  Speaker 3: The threat we face.
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  Speaker 5: Police have now killed the suspect who allegedly drove a
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  Speaker 5: coorre through a Pride per maad yesterday in Berlin and
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  Speaker 5: what authorities say was an Islamic terror attack.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty one year.
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  Speaker 5: Old Abdul Bhalut is accused of killing at least one
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  Speaker 5: in injuring twenty nine others. Authorities say he has Lebanese
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  Speaker 5: roots and is allegedly tied to the country's quote Islamist scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the German police got their man, but only after
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  Speaker 2: death and Mayhem ensured and reportedly the suspect had been
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  Speaker 2: arrested and charged previously on terror related charges, then freed
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  Speaker 2: because he promised to leave his Islamist extremist days behind.
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  Speaker 2: This is such reckless negligence by authorities.
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  Speaker 3: But who among us is surprised?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, terrorists, as we know, they don't need guns or bombs.
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  Speaker 2: They're happy to use knives. In Israel in recent days
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  Speaker 2: they've used matches starting or cigarette lighters starting bushfires, and
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  Speaker 2: of course they've used cars and trucks many times before.
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  Speaker 2: That's why across Sydney's eastern suburbs now you see cement
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  Speaker 2: and water filled plastic barriers. Most of the country doesn't
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  Speaker 2: see these. Most people in Sydney don't see them. But
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  Speaker 2: outside synagogues and Jewish schools where Australian families go to
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  Speaker 2: school or go to worship, they do so behind these
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  Speaker 2: barriers in case terrorists in cars or trucks try to
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  Speaker 2: take them out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how some Australians.
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  Speaker 2: Live right now, armed guards and cement barriers at schools.
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  Speaker 2: Only Jewish Australians have to live like that now. But
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  Speaker 2: all Australians need to understand that this battle, this struggle
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  Speaker 2: against evil, is one.
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  Speaker 3: For all of us.
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  Speaker 2: Why well, there are two reasons, of course, First because
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  Speaker 2: we should never stand by while any group of Australians
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  Speaker 2: is threatened and attacked in this way. But second, the
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  Speaker 2: terrorists will come for everyone else too. They have done
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  Speaker 2: before and they will do again. They'll attack Christians, Atheists, anyone.
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  Speaker 2: This is something all Australians need to stand up on.
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  Speaker 2: It's an attack on our way of life, on our
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  Speaker 2: values and our security. Even if the ALP Conference turns
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  Speaker 2: a blind eye and our labor government doesn't have the
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  Speaker 2: stomach for it, we must stand up against Islamist extremism
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  Speaker 2: and terrorism.
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  Speaker 3: The alternative is unthinkable.
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  Speaker 2: Now in the wake of the ALP Conference, Anthony Albernezi
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  Speaker 2: has been caught out yet again. Once more, its hypocrisy
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  Speaker 2: that comes to the fore. Once more with this Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: it's double standards and failure to take responsibility. Last week,
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  Speaker 2: nine Media revealed the PM was the dinner guest of
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  Speaker 2: honor that a Sydney harbourside mansion hosted by twenty five
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  Speaker 2: year old Felix Lee, whose father Philip has gambled more
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  Speaker 2: than two billion dollars that's two thousand million dollars at
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  Speaker 2: Sydney's Star casino and is reportedly being pursued by the
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  Speaker 2: Tax Office for bringing undeclared funds into the country from China.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently this dinner netted donations for labor, perhaps as much
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  Speaker 2: as a million dollars. But either the dinner was so
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  Speaker 2: good that Albert Easy can't remember it, or he wants
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  Speaker 2: to keep all the details secret, or he just doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about it. Whatever it is, have a
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  Speaker 2: look at this excruciating exchange.
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  Speaker 6: I want to ask you PM about the reports in
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  Speaker 6: the nine newspapers over recent days about a private fundraising dinner. Firstly,
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  Speaker 6: did you attend a dinner at the home of Felix
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  Speaker 6: Lee in Point Piper.
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  Speaker 3: Oh Ok?
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  Speaker 4: I attend lots of functions, one, I attend lots of
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  Speaker 4: functions in lots of places, including last.
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  Speaker 1: Night right here.
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  Speaker 6: What about this dinner in Point Pipe lots of functions?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I do you've just.
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  Speaker 4: Said that that occurred? You know that's fine. I tend
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  Speaker 4: lots of dinners in lots of places, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: talk about private dinners. I've held a number this week
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  Speaker 4: here in Adelaide as well, lots.
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  Speaker 6: Of fundraising this one. The concern is that his father
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  Speaker 6: is accused by the Tax Office of deceiving authorities about
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  Speaker 6: funneling huge sums of money from China to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a concern for you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not aware of those issues.
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  Speaker 3: Should he have been aware?
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't there.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't there.
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  Speaker 4: I attended a dinner last night with seven hundred.
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  Speaker 3: And fifty people.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not asking about that.
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  Speaker 3: But they're the facts.
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  Speaker 4: David, I attend a lot of meetings, functions with lots
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  Speaker 4: of people and talking about people's relatives.
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  Speaker 3: Even removed from.
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  Speaker 6: That, it's where the money is coming from.
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  Speaker 3: PM.
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  Speaker 6: Is this going to be looked into whether there's a
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  Speaker 6: red flag?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we declare all of our donations in accordance with
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  Speaker 4: the rules. We're transparent about it. I do attend a
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  Speaker 4: lot of events, and you know that is part of
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  Speaker 4: the process that occurs engaging with people.
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  Speaker 3: So much for transparency.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, it's just so disingenuous, this stuff talking about Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's relatives.
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  Speaker 3: You're asking about.
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  Speaker 2: Relatives of people at the dinner, he's talking about the
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  Speaker 2: father of the host.
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  Speaker 3: The host was twenty five years old.
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  Speaker 2: Alba thought he was just going to have dinner at
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  Speaker 2: the twenty five year old's house, did he right?
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  Speaker 3: No idea who the father was? Done? All right?
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  Speaker 2: For a twenty five year old. Hey, forty million dollar
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  Speaker 2: house on the harbor.
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  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: It's easier to get donations out of billionaires than answers
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  Speaker 2: out of albot But this is nothing new.
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  Speaker 3: This is not out of character.
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  Speaker 2: Remember in the lead up to the last election, when
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  Speaker 2: Albanesi and Labor hammered Peter Dutton for daring to attend
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  Speaker 2: a fundraising dinner in Sydney a few days before a
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  Speaker 2: cyclone hit Brisbane. Albertezy was happy to attack Dutton, but
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about his own fundraising efforts at
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  Speaker 2: the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Back then on Peter Dutton's.
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  Speaker 7: Movements, Well reported that he was a political fundraiser in
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  Speaker 7: Sydney on March four.
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  Speaker 8: Did you also attend.
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  Speaker 7: The fundraising event?
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  Speaker 4: Look that to matter for him?
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  Speaker 3: That does matter for you, promises a matter of whether
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  Speaker 3: you were to fundraising matter for him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure what day you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Literally the Prime Minister's excuse, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know what day you're talking about. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: day it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's always the same old story with this Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if that song was on the playlist at
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  Speaker 2: the Harveside Mansion last week.
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  Speaker 3: So many questions, so few answers.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the only way to get answers out of Albot
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  Speaker 2: is to host avish dinner and get some donations for
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  Speaker 2: the Labor Party. Let's go live to Melbourne now and
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  Speaker 2: catch up with former Labor Federal MP Michael Danby Michael,
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  Speaker 2: good to talk to you again. Oh Chris, there's so
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  Speaker 2: much to catch up with you on. I really want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you about the ALP conference. But first
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  Speaker 2: of all, with state politics has a proceeded ahead of us.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I want to get your.
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  Speaker 2: Take on just into Alan will she resign, should she
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  Speaker 2: resign or would there be a challenge, a hostile challenge
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  Speaker 2: if you like.
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  Speaker 3: Instead, there has been.
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  Speaker 9: A hostile challenge. She's written to the State Secretary saying
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  Speaker 9: to prepare the ballots, that she's going to force the ballot.
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  Speaker 9: Some people say that she's such a socialistlept princess that
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  Speaker 9: she's going to stick no matter how unpopular she is.
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  Speaker 9: All of the MPs have come back from their electorates
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  Speaker 9: and she's absolutely toxic. This line about the ghetto tax
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  Speaker 9: on all Victorians has really stuck, Chris. And nonetheless it'd
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  Speaker 9: take six weeks. She'd have to have thirteen MP's nominator,
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  Speaker 9: but I suppose even Jeremy Corbyn was able to get
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  Speaker 9: half a dozen. So, however unpopular she is, however badly
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  Speaker 9: the government is going, she's determined to start.
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  Speaker 3: What's about the process.
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  Speaker 2: Then, in the Labor Party, how can Ben Carroll mount
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  Speaker 2: the challenge? How quickly can this happen. What is actually
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  Speaker 2: going on?
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  Speaker 9: Well, he declares it tomorrow, there'd have to be a
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  Speaker 9: six week six weeks. The state election is barely five
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  Speaker 9: months away. Internal Labor Party ballot be aballot another fifty
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  Speaker 9: percent of state members. So it's very much like the
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  Speaker 9: rud Gillard situation that you'd remember, Chris, where people said,
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  Speaker 9: to save the furniture, we had to get rid of
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  Speaker 9: Gillard and put Rudd back, and he managed to keep
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  Speaker 9: a few more places in the left, hoping their places
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  Speaker 9: in the art of Southeast will be kept, and that
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  Speaker 9: would be a reason to express their conflict of disloyalties
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  Speaker 9: and vote against Jaciner Allen, even though she's in the
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  Speaker 9: same faction in the state caucus. But the problem is,
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  Speaker 9: if she demands it, it's got to go to this
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  Speaker 9: wider process that Rudd imposed on the federal caucus as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so wouldn't there be a lot of action as
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  Speaker 2: we speak overnight, people trying to lean on her, factional
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  Speaker 2: heavyweights trying to lean on her to resign in the
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  Speaker 2: interests of the party.
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  Speaker 9: But I'm told she's a regular porcupine. She's not moving.
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  Speaker 9: And she wrote to the state secretary and put him
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  Speaker 9: on notice, and she just has to get those thirteen people,
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  Speaker 9: and she's back in the game and she's hoping that
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  Speaker 9: Ben Carroll's Nervell fail.
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  Speaker 2: Well, in a way, I think that's a good thing
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  Speaker 2: for Victorians, because I think they should be given the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: To vote on her rather than to have a switch
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  Speaker 3: or reput in place. What are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think whoever is the nominee, I think Victorian
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  Speaker 9: labor are finished. The Gado tax, the railway that leads
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  Speaker 9: from nowhere to nowhere, the machete fights in suburban shopping centers,
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  Speaker 9: the potholes. Some poor bloke in Geelong is in hospital
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  Speaker 9: and he can't get into emergency after having his bike
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  Speaker 9: fall into a pothole in Geelong. It's terrible down here
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  Speaker 9: and they deserve to be kicked out. But a worse
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  Speaker 9: thing could happen, Chris, if they lose sufficient seats. But
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  Speaker 9: the Greens are the difference. Do you think Ben Carroll
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  Speaker 9: or just Center Ellen wouldn't go into an aligned to
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  Speaker 9: the Green Party even though they've promised not to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the worry, and that's what the worry about,
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  Speaker 2: the fracturing of the right of center vote with one
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  Speaker 2: nation and the coalition. If you get the vote splitting
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  Speaker 2: everywhere somehow you can have a labor Green's coalition hold on.
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  Speaker 3: That would be disastrous.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing to hear you talk this way as a
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  Speaker 2: labor man, because you must be shattered that it's come
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  Speaker 2: to this for a state labor government. But even more importantly,
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  Speaker 2: of course, you were a federal front bencher. And to
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  Speaker 2: see what's happened at the ALP national conference. As a
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  Speaker 2: member of the Australian Jewish community, you've been a critic
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  Speaker 2: for a long while on.
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  Speaker 3: Their Middle East policy.
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  Speaker 2: You would have read to Mike Kelly's article today that
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  Speaker 2: I highlighted earlier. What's your assessment of what's come out
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  Speaker 2: of that conference and what the implications are for this country,
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  Speaker 2: not just for the Jewish community but for the whole country.
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  Speaker 9: People who say the balance is right, that the vibe
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  Speaker 9: is good, that it was lovely to see a Palestinian
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  Speaker 9: a Jewish fellow shake hands together, well all of that's
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  Speaker 9: very nice, But what that's saying is the actual policy
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  Speaker 9: of the government party doesn't matter. Albo promised, as he
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: promised with capital gains tax, that he would not allow
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: Hamas to be in a future Palestinian government, that they
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: would have to disarm, and that the Palestinian authority, to
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: whom Australian taxpayers, via Penny Wong's munificence gives millions of dollars,
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: would no longer pay salaries to Palestinian terrorists in jail.
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: It's called a pay for slave scheme. All of those
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: promises that he made when he voted last year at
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: the UN on Palestine abandoned. Now they've got one good
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: proposal to have with the Indonesians and re education scheme
• 20:58
  Speaker 9: for poor Palestinian young people who've been fanaticized for decades
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: by UNRAH. At the same time we fund UNRA the
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: Australian government, A lot of European governments don't, so the
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: situation is very poor. I think words actually matter, and
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: I agree with Shaneagudnik, the daughter of the poor man
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: murdered in Bondai, that you can't call for all of
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: these conditions on Israel and then say there are no
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: conditions that apply to h muscle the PA.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of these de radicalization programs are
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: just window dressing. It's an excuse because they've never worked
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: We've had so many cases in the UK and Europe,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: and again really in Berlin on the weekend where people
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: supposedly who are being de radicalized go ahead and conduct
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: these operations anyway. But just to drill further into what
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you're saying now, I agree with you. When Anthony Abernezi
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: decided to recognize the non existent state of Palestine, he
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: said these things. The official Australian government policy then is
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that no money should go from the Palestinian authority to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the martyrs as they call them, or the families of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the martyrs and other terrorists in jail, and that Hummas
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: must disarm.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Now, neither of those things have happened. Of course, they're
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: still occurring.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And I said there was nonsense at the time to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: impose those conditions anyway, because you couldn't enforce them. But
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: nonetheless that is the Australian government policy. Yet the Australian
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Federal Labor Party Conference couldn't even put into its own
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: platform those policies that Labour's already signed up to. It
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: couldn't even bring itself to say disarm humm us and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: stop paying.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Terrorists with our taxpayers money.
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: I thought your black humor in your editorial was very good,
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: Chris when you said, they say we should be grateful
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: for things not being as bad as they might have been. Well,
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: the other excuse that Penny Warm offers to everyone is, oh,
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: don't worry, the government will ignore all of this policy.
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: Then why parsit? Why make such an effort to do that?
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: Why ignore what you've said previously with this kind of
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: ahistorical government. Events in the Middle East don't really count.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: There is a cease fire between Israel and Lebanon, maybe
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: a peace treaty. There's officially still the seasfire in Gaza,
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: and at the moment there's no war between Israel and
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: Iran because the Uranians are so scared of sending missiles
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: into Israel. So things are a bit better. But that's
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: the real world. The context this, all of this verbiage balance,
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: the false narrative that Mike Kelly talked about, is all
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: designed just to assuage factions with it the dominant socialist
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: left faction in the Labor Party, so they won't get
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: too angry about having anything that criticizes the Islami's side
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: of politics. We don't want more gardens in Australia, tiny Burke.
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: We don't want doctor Jihard to come back here. And
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: I think I speak for a lot of labor people,
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: a lot of liber apart from the One Nation who
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: were going up to thirty percent because you're doing this
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: Albow burkenwall.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliantly said Michael. Just to wrap up though, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: we're really tight for time, so just quickly if you
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: could the implications of this for Australia. But this is
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: not just a neces esoteric debate about ALP policy or
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: about the global affairs. This has real impact on social
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: cohesion in this country. How would you describe that?
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: Well, people are terrified of the government giving more authority
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: to harmask by not criticizing them. That's what Shana Gutnick
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: understood on the front page of The Australian today when
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: she's quoted as saying that no conditions on her mask
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: from the Elbow government, even though he promised last year
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: another broken promise.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Michael, I really appreciate you. Michael
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Dambi there, the former Federal Labor MP, former federal front bencher.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: You often see him on Andrew Bolt's program. Really good
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to hear from him today. This the labor man through
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and through with a frank assessment of the Jacenta Alan
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: government in Victoria, but also about what labor is doing
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: when it comes to Middle East policy and how it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: hurts our social cohesion and national security in this country.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: It's not right wing nutjobs creating alarm about this.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Labor.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: People who know what's going on know this is terrible.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: We're going to do something about it in this country.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: We've already paid an intolerable price at Bondai. There's no
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: sign of anybody getting it right in the future or
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: anything improving.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Let's move on to other issues now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm joined on the desk by their deputy opposition
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: whip in the Senate, Senator Jessica Collins.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Jessica. Thanks good to have you
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: back here.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts to going back to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the nitty gritty of political partisanship, Your thoughts on Anthony
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Arbernezi's seeming to not even remember.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Who was at his dinner and why he was there
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: last week.
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: Well, Chris, the last time I was on your show,
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: I think we talked about that terrible podcast that he
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: was on and the failure to actually research who he
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: was being interviewed by and what that kind of interview
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: would look like. Now here we are again. He's gone
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: to a fundraiser hosted by a man whose parents have
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: wroughted the ATO and rowted taxpayers and funneled money from
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: China into Australia and he hasn't either bothered to check
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: that out or he didn't care. Now both of those
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: results are completely outrageous, and I think he has to
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: answer questions and answer them properly.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I think one of the big problems is he just
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: he doesn't. I mean, if he had a robust defense
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: of what he's doing, fine, but he just.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: It's just this idea. I don't really know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: There's no sense of being accountable whatsoever, no.
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: Sense of being accountable. I think he said exactly those
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: exact words that he didn't know about it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Now he should.
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: Now you've got a fundraisers. Often there are a lot
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: of people there. You can't simply vet everybody. But here's
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: the Prime Minister.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Well, this is not a big fundraiser. This is dinner.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: This is a bunch of people around the table. He
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: knows whose house.
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: It is, he knows two house it is, and he
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: was raising a lot of money, and that means a lot,
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: So you need to know about the people that are
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: put in some and it's not just the money that
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: they hand over, it's the house, it's the staff that
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: the catering staff, all the food and the wine and
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: the entertainment they go out on all stops, and he
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: should know about the people.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I've got to point out though, at this very moment,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: of course, the Liberal Party in New South Wales is
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: going through an ICAQ inquiry looking at how allegedly Liberal
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: politicians broke the rules accepting donations from property developers, which
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: is illegal. So obviously on your side of politics, you've
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: got some real issues with accountability here at the moment.
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: Well, look, Chris ikak is one thing, and I won't
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: be commenting on that obviously it's going through the process
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: at the moment. But I think both major parties have
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: to take a good hard look at themselves and we
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: need to be electable at the next election. And with
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: that comes authenticity, and with that comes looking back on
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: ourselves and realizing what we got wrong and what we
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: can do a whole lot better.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I really think the easy way to fix this is
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that political parties when they get a donation, it's not
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: hard to do in the digital age. Within twenty four
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: hours of that money going into their bank account, it
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: should be up on a public register. Just instant declaration
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of wherever donations come from would fix the problem overnight.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: That enables accountability. We shall see. I've got to get
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you before you go though. On one nation and coalitions,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: here's what your senate colleague Andrew Bragg had to say.
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: We would definitely work out whoever would be interested in
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: being in a coalition with us, if that's what the
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: numbers were. Of course not crazy. If the numbers were
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: the numbers and we had to be in coalition with others,
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: then of course we would be pragmatic.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: This is the reality, isn't it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Whether it's the Victorian election, the looming in New South
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Wales election, or a federal election. If after the election
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a coalition could form government.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: By bringing in one nation, you'd do that, surely.
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: Well, I think you know, first of all, we are
• 28:50
  Speaker 10: working hypotheticals, and we're working way above my pay grade
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: when we start working talking about coalition, Chris. But you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: if we look at the pro over the past few
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: years of political fragmentation that we've had a few years ago,
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: we could have started talking about or you know, the
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: left cutit started talking about us swarming a coalition of
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: the tills. Now, of course we saw how that played out.
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: They are way too left. They' vote eighty percent of
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: the time with the Greens. We have never seen a
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: large one nation party tested in government and how that
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: all plays out. So again we're working in hypotheticals here.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: We had I think you'd.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Have a lot more in common with one nation than
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the tills. The tills are a green left these for sure.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Santra, I appreciate it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Just out of time. Now send it to Jess Collins there.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to a break. On the other side.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about how Labour's higher taxes and
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: the highest interest rates we're getting to from the inflation
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: problem are really seeing real estate sales plummet.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: We'll get an expert view in just a moment.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to Labour's budget fall out, the real
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: estate changes, the tax hikes, and auction clearance rates have
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: fallen through the floor, with Victoria the only state recording
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: a rate over fifty percent last weekend. In Queensland there
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: was only twenty nine percent clearance, forty three percent, in
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: New South Wales, South Australia just below fifty percent, and
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: wa On nineteen percent. Auctioneer and real estate expert Tom
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Panos has hit out on social media, saying it's the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: worst conditions he's seen in three decades.
• 30:20
  Speaker 12: Have a look, today was the worst, zero out of six.
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: But that's not the metric that's going to concern you.
• 30:32
  Speaker 12: I'll tell you what the metric that's going to concern you.
• 30:35
  Speaker 12: I didn't have a single person registered to bid.
• 30:39
  Speaker 13: Do you understand?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Not one registration? Tom joins me.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Now live in the studio, Tom, you could tell your
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: sense of surprise and exasperation about that as it ever
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: happened to you before.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: We had a real estate auction and no one has registered.
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: So not only for one property, talking about there were
• 31:00
  Speaker 14: six octions, no one registered on any of the six octions.
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: Good lawd Let's make that clear, not one auction all six.
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: That's why I said it's my worst day. I mean,
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: selling zero Chris out of six is bad enough, but
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: to actually have no one to actually come along and say,
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: you know what this market's dropped. Maybe I'll get myself
• 31:19
  Speaker 14: a bargain. Not even anyone had the appetite to do that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: That's extraordin and I took it from the video.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It might have been no registrations at one of the auctions,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: now none of all.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Six What happens as an auction in do you still
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: get paid for turning up?
• 31:31
  Speaker 14: Chris?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: You do, you do, you do?
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: But look, let's be very clear. I'm happier when they
• 31:39
  Speaker 14: sell because the ndor is happier, the agent's happier. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: don't want to sort of sail off into the sunsets
• 31:43
  Speaker 14: thinking that you know, I've picked up my fee and
• 31:46
  Speaker 14: they're unhappy.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: So tell us.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: About what's going on here, because there are a number
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: of factors. There's the tax changes, there's the general economic cycle.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Our price is plummeting. It's got to be a buyers market,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: Okay, So Chris, we've got to make it very clear.
• 31:59
  Speaker 14: There's not one real estate market. There is multiple markets,
• 32:03
  Speaker 14: and they're both based on geography and price. So when
• 32:07
  Speaker 14: you look at geography, you can turn around and say
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: Sydney Melbourne they are in a bad state. Brisbane is
• 32:13
  Speaker 14: now heading that way as well, Perth your viewers saw
• 32:17
  Speaker 14: on the screen, those numbers look atrocious. And don't forget
• 32:21
  Speaker 14: the numbers you showed doesn't include the properties. That's called
• 32:24
  Speaker 14: the preliminary clearance rate. As the next few days go over,
• 32:27
  Speaker 14: those numbers are going to be revised down, not up.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: So so right, I thought they might go up as
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: people come in after a failed auction. Do they go
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: down because people get cold feet?
• 32:38
  Speaker 15: No?
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: What it is is real estate agents don't always do
• 32:42
  Speaker 14: the reporting on a Saturday, and the ones that don't
• 32:45
  Speaker 14: report normally are the ones that haven't sold. But by Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 32:49
  Speaker 14: the dust has said, all the data's in there and
• 32:52
  Speaker 14: the truth comes out, they get revised by around five
• 32:54
  Speaker 14: percent is roughly they get revised.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: But Chris, to.
• 32:56
  Speaker 14: Answer your question, you've got multiple markets geography, but you've
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: also got multiple markets by price point. Price point high, medium, low,
• 33:04
  Speaker 14: High is the one that's copped at the most. So
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: in some markets we're seeing fifteen to twenty percent drops.
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: Medium price points we're seeing around ten percent drops. And
• 33:14
  Speaker 14: the lower price points, which is a bit ironic because
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: you would have thought to yourself, this whole budget strategy
• 33:19
  Speaker 14: was about helping first home buyers. That five percent deposit
• 33:23
  Speaker 14: scheme means that there's plenty of people still there. So
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: there really hasn't been much of an opportunity for the
• 33:28
  Speaker 14: newer first home buyers to come in. But overall it
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: doesn't look good, Chris, we're talking about to me, the
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: biggest issue, it's not even the.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Prices, it's the volume.
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: It's gridlock. Like sellers are saying, why go onto the market,
• 33:42
  Speaker 14: We're not going to get our price. Buyers are saying,
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: let's not buy negative equity prices it So, see what
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: how good.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: You just touched on it there.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: But I just want to finish on this point because
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: if I'm Jim Charmers, God help me, I would pretend
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I'm some sort of a genius.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I'm taking all the investors.
• 33:58
  Speaker 14: A PhD O ky, yeah, so you are agum.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: And so this is all the investors coming out of
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the market and the top end, but at the lower end,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: this is making housing cheaper for first home buyers and
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: they're coming be coming into the market.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Is that happening or not? Now it's not happening.
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: It's not happening because quite frankly, a lot of these
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: first home buyers are concerned about negative equity. They're sort
• 34:18
  Speaker 14: of seeing it and they're hearing that price they're going
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: to keep dropping down. You're not going to get a
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: young person that's going to go borrow nine hundred and
• 34:24
  Speaker 14: fifty thousand dollars with a five percent deposit scheme by
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: a million dollar property to find out it's then worth
• 34:29
  Speaker 14: eight point fifty. They're not doing it, and quite frankly,
• 34:32
  Speaker 14: I said to you are fair. This whole strategy, which
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: was hoping to get people to move away from existing
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: properties to new properties. They've rejected that. They're not buying
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: the new property on investors.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Tom, I appreciate it. That's a
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: view right from the coal face. They're worrying situation in
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the real estate market.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: We're going to get to a break.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll check in on the Commonwealth
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Games and some of the drama that's unfolding in Glasgow.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Sophie Ellsworth is there for us.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: As we were discussing earlier, the Victorian Premier said to
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Alan is digging in trying to hang on to her premiership.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Her deputy Premier, Ben Carroll has announced that he's having
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a challenge for the top job say. Political reporter Georgie
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Dickinson has been following all these developments all day for
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: us here at News twenty four. Georgie, it's been a
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: folding disaster for labor. What's happening as we speak.
• 35:25
  Speaker 15: Yeah, good evening to you, Chris. It certainly has been
• 35:27
  Speaker 15: an interesting day, no doubt. At the moment, talks are
• 35:30
  Speaker 15: happening behind the scenes with Desina Allen and her labor
• 35:33
  Speaker 15: colleagues ahead of Parliament returning tomorrow morning where the party
• 35:37
  Speaker 15: broom will meet. But it's out of the day where
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: a number of ministers went to the Premier asking her
• 35:42
  Speaker 15: to resign, to step aside to pave the way for
• 35:44
  Speaker 15: the Deputy Premier Ben Carroll to take on the leadership
• 35:47
  Speaker 15: just over four months out from the state election. Now,
• 35:51
  Speaker 15: in turn, the Premier refused and she told those ministers
• 35:53
  Speaker 15: to instead resign, which obviously they have not done. But
• 35:56
  Speaker 15: there's certainly been a messy situation here, but we rush
• 35:59
  Speaker 15: for Remember it was six weeks ago to the day
• 36:02
  Speaker 15: that Ben Carroll had this to say on taking on
• 36:05
  Speaker 15: the leadership.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: I have said I've got the job.
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: I want you.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I have said I've got the job I want. I
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: don't want to. I have I have always aspired to
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: be the education minister.
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: Have you aspired to be the premier?
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: We have a premier and she's working harder than anyone
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: every day. I want to serve just cinto Rallyan, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: I want to make sure No look I've got I've
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: got a young daughter at home and I couldn't be
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: more proud to make sure she grows up knowing that
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: I supported you Cinterrallyan to be a world class premier
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: and get re elected in her own right for me
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: to ask her to step aside, can you look her
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  Speaker 7: in the eye and say that I can look you
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: say that, Premier, that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Is a beautiful piece of political theater, Georgie.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: But I suppose that's the way you're going.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: You've got to pledge your loyalty publicly until it disappears.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: But this is really disastrous.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: You've got the state election living in November, all right,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: already it's a shambles. If you said to Alan doesn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: hand over, and that goes to a contest, that it'll
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: be weeks of turmoil for labor, won't.
• 37:07
  Speaker 16: It certainly going to be in terms of the leadership spill?
• 37:13
  Speaker 16: She obviously has the government has enough numbers to have
• 37:16
  Speaker 16: a successful leadership spill.
• 37:18
  Speaker 15: But it's after this fact, and it's what the Premier
• 37:20
  Speaker 15: has written to the State Secretary of Labour saying that
• 37:23
  Speaker 15: if there is a leadership contest, she will contest that position.
• 37:26
  Speaker 15: And essentially what that means is it could drag out
• 37:29
  Speaker 15: for up to two months and we're only four months
• 37:31
  Speaker 15: out from the state election. Half that time caught up
• 37:33
  Speaker 15: with internal turmoil, when really Labor shall be focusing on
• 37:37
  Speaker 15: fixing the alleged corruption on the big build sites here
• 37:40
  Speaker 15: in Victoria and helping Victorians at a die a time
• 37:43
  Speaker 15: really here in Victoria, when the cost of living is
• 37:45
  Speaker 15: going through the roof and crime is running rampant on
• 37:47
  Speaker 15: our streets.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Spot on, Georgie, spot on, Thanks for joining us.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Georgie D. Diggerson has been all over it all day.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: A long day for her.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I think she'll be staying on board and crossing into
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: later programs tonight as well.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: What are shambles in Victoria's on.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: The bright side, while all those labor ministers in the
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Premier of fighting amongst themselves, hopefully they can't find time
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to inflict any more harm on.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: The state of Victoria. We shall see. They'll give it
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: their best shot, no doubt.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the other side of the world now, though,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and catch up with Sophiel's worth at the Commonwealth Games
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: in Scotland.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: We're going to do that at the moment.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Actually, First up, I just want to give you a
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: bit of background here of what's been going on in Glasgow,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: where police made fifteen arrests on Saturday after anti immigration
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: protesters took to the streets. Say look, yeah, aren't they
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: called the Friendly Games the Commonwealth Games. Let's catch up
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: with Sophiel's with News twenty four contributor and the News
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Call of course Europe corresponded, Sophie, give us a sense
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: of how those demonstrations, those protests have impacted on Glasgow.
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: Yeah, great to be with you, Chris.
• 39:13
  Speaker 17: Look, they were shocking scenes here in Glasgow on the weekend.
• 39:17
  Speaker 17: We saw those protesters running through Glasgow Green.
• 39:20
  Speaker 13: A beautiful part of the city.
• 39:22
  Speaker 17: There were policed with batons, police on horseback, a lot
• 39:26
  Speaker 17: of men dressed in black outfits with balaclava's. Really they
• 39:31
  Speaker 17: were protesting against migration here in the UK.
• 39:34
  Speaker 13: Chris yelling out chants.
• 39:36
  Speaker 17: Such as stop the boats but look, Chris, some of
• 39:39
  Speaker 17: that vision really reminded me of the vision that we
• 39:43
  Speaker 17: saw during COVID.
• 39:44
  Speaker 13: Lockdowns in Victoria.
• 39:47
  Speaker 17: We've got the Games here in Scotland, as we know
• 39:49
  Speaker 17: they were meant to be in Victoria. Scotland's on the
• 39:52
  Speaker 17: world stage at the moment, and this was an awfully
• 39:55
  Speaker 17: bad look for Glasgow to have these protests going on
• 39:58
  Speaker 17: at the same time as the game, as Chris.
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  Speaker 2: And there were special security arrangements. Security was beefed up
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: for the athletes, I believe.
• 40:06
  Speaker 17: Yes, so the Commonwealth Games Australia was on high alert
• 40:09
  Speaker 17: following these protests to ensure that athletes, officials and their
• 40:14
  Speaker 17: families were kept safe. It really seemed to be something
• 40:18
  Speaker 17: that occurred on the Saturday and thankfully hasn't continued on
• 40:21
  Speaker 17: throughout the following days.
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: Chris, But not good at all.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Now tell me about this other thing. This does my
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: head in right.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Gina Reinhart, wealthiest woman in the country, wealthiest person in
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the country, but loves to give back through sport, no doubt,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: as we know all sorts of other charitable endeavors as well,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: but she's really focused on sport. She rewards athletes individually,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: helps a lot of them get to the Games, and
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: gives them cash bonuses if they deliver medals. But our
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: sporting authorities, in their wisdom, have told athletes not to
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: thank her if they win a medal of it. But
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: they've told people effectively, don't be grateful to a person
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: who is helping you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: Well.
• 41:03
  Speaker 17: Chris, thisisle comes down to arrangements the players or the
• 41:07
  Speaker 17: athletes rather have with Commonwealth Games Australia and their contracts,
• 41:12
  Speaker 17: and they're very strict contracts where they cannot thank unofficial
• 41:18
  Speaker 17: sponsors or benefactors. Gina ryan Hart, as generous as she is,
• 41:22
  Speaker 17: is not an official sponsor of the Commonwealth Games swimmers,
• 41:27
  Speaker 17: so they have been told Chris not to mention her
• 41:31
  Speaker 17: when they're thanking their supporters and so forth when they
• 41:36
  Speaker 17: do well in their events. But Chris, I think this
• 41:39
  Speaker 17: has made it worse because now it has become more
• 41:41
  Speaker 17: of a story and we know that Senator Hanson wade
• 41:44
  Speaker 17: in and she told me she thought this was appalling,
• 41:47
  Speaker 17: so not great at all for all involved.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's just pathetic. There should be no politics,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: nothing involved. If she's helping people out and they feel
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: that they want to thank her publicly, they should be
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: allowed to. It's called common decence and these authorities jump
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: in with their talk of contrast. It's just it's very
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: UnAustralian and it's not fair on our athletes, let alone
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Gina Reinhart. But on the good news, of course, we've
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: been smoking it as ever in the pool and the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Comwealth Games.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: No one can keep up.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I loved it in the fifteen meters where Cam McAvoy,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: of course the world record holder won, but we got
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: one two and three.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to Cameron McAvoy, sick, try and get.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: To the wall here.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: McAvoy he does Southam second jet third, Australia sweeps the
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: podium in the fifty freestyle of Games record.
• 42:39
  Speaker 13: He's under twenty one seconds.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: It's a phenomenal time. It is only nine to one hundreds.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Off his world record.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Jazz fantastic stuff there is at one two and three, Sophie,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: we've actually got a young bloke in Australia at the moment,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Oli Mocklair who's swimming faster at eighteen years of age
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: or nineteen years now than Cam McAvoy was then. So
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: we're going to be pretty good in that event for
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: a long while to come.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 43:04
  Speaker 13: We are indeed, Chris.
• 43:05
  Speaker 17: Look we're cleaning up in the pool as we always
• 43:08
  Speaker 17: do here at the Commonwealth Games. The atmosphere down at
• 43:11
  Speaker 17: the swimming pool has been absolutely electric. Cam macavoy is
• 43:15
  Speaker 17: a force of nature. He's thirty two and he said
• 43:18
  Speaker 17: he's got a long way to go yet, but making
• 43:21
  Speaker 17: credible times here, Chris.
• 43:23
  Speaker 13: Great for Australia.
• 43:24
  Speaker 17: And look, some of the British reporters were saying to
• 43:26
  Speaker 17: me yesterday, what is Australia's secret? Why are you guys
• 43:30
  Speaker 17: so damn good at swimming? So it's something that we
• 43:33
  Speaker 17: can boast about, probably like the cricket Chris.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I reckon pop down here, check out the weather and
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the coastline.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: You'll get a bit of a clue. Thanks so joy
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: so for yours were live from Glasgow. Great stuff.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break afterwards, going to
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: on the other side. We're going to catch up with
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Jim Aton Jinia and Carolindera. So delve into the Prime
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Minister's dinners again, find out a bit more about that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in jimton Uni and Carolina Roussa.
• 44:03
  Speaker 13: My friend.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Good to see, great to be here.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I've got to show you both something about this is
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: elon mask hitting back against this term of hard right.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: It's shown that anybody who speaks any sense these days,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: and I reckon, he kind of got it right.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Have a look at your own mask.
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: Will you support not just the populus right, but the
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: far right, in fact, very fringe parties in some countries.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I support the normal people. What do you call a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: far right? Falsely?
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: You think is the normal person?
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: Okay?
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Tell me which are these sound terrible? That we should
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: have secure borders, that we should have safe cities, that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: we should have sensible spending. Which are those three are
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a far right? Fringe? And I would like to just
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: admonish you and the media for the absurd characterization of
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the far right. It is false and misleading and nonsense.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Please keep this part in hah And we did get
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to see it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: He is just so.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Spot on there, he absolutely spot on.
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think you get characterized as being something
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: just for saying exactly what he said. And no such
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: a no more powerful potent example of that is around
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: gender and sexual you know, the reality of there being
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: two genders, all of that sort of stuff. We've seen
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: that horrible incident in Berlin Pride over the weekend, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: to suggest that radical Islam is a problem is apparently
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: far right. Our own Asio reporters confirmed that, year after
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: year after year, he's simply saying what everybody else knows.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: And if you want to.
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: Bring it back into a local context, let's look at
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: the rise of one nation. Most people who I know
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: and I know believe it or not, dozens who are
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: planning to vote one nation have very sensible views like
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: controlled immigration, not anti immigration, controlled immigration, those sorts of things.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Well exactly what they used to call John Howard far right?
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Did this just say the same about Robert Reagan and
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Margaret Thatcher's said, Carol.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: And to me a country you know, well Italy right,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: This is a classic one.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: They've always tried to demonize Georgia Melleney as far right.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: What because she wants to run a Fishent government and
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: control Italy's borders.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: It's absurd.
• 46:14
  Speaker 18: Well, that would be a change for the Italians, So
• 46:17
  Speaker 18: she should be she should be a change maker, really
• 46:20
  Speaker 18: more than more than just being far right. But what
• 46:23
  Speaker 18: it ultimately says Chris, and it's a word that is
• 46:27
  Speaker 18: used to describe a particular group of people. But ultimately
• 46:31
  Speaker 18: what you need to look at, Chris, is who is
• 46:33
  Speaker 18: saying it and where are they standing. And maybe when
• 46:37
  Speaker 18: you know, people who ascribe to those views of controlled
• 46:39
  Speaker 18: immigration and whatever are not far right, maybe they are
• 46:43
  Speaker 18: just a very long way from the far left, Chris.
• 46:46
  Speaker 18: And then there is something that I think the media
• 46:48
  Speaker 18: really struggle with, because yes, there is a gap between
• 46:52
  Speaker 18: between you know, those two kinds of general cohorts of views.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: But maybe the far.
• 46:58
  Speaker 18: Right isn't as far as the farm they think the
• 47:01
  Speaker 18: far right.
• 47:01
  Speaker 13: Actually, I just couldn't.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Focus thoughts on them on this outbow think. Can you
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: imagine the insult?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: You imagine you had the Elbow over for dinner and
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: when he's asked about it, he basically denies all knowledge
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: instead of saying, oh, that Gemma's place was great.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: We had a good crowd there and that's what we
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: talked about. What Jemtonia, I don't know who's she is.
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: No, Well, if he was at my house for dinner,
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: you'd know it was a cry for help. So that's
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: the first thing. The second thing is that this is
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: just so on brand for this person. He is allergic
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: to accountability, everything he does that is open for question.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: Is is then followed by plausible deniability. And I use
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: this example all the time. The voice loss was not
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: his loss. No, the issue of women's spaces and women's
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: identity in this country it's a culture war. He does
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: not have an accountable bone in his body. And I
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: remain firmly of the view because I'm old enough to
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: remember how this stuff eventually bites somebody on the bottom,
• 48:01
  Speaker 8: that there will be something he cannot wriggle out of.
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: And in this case, listen, let me give you an example.
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: I get as you no doubt do. I get asked
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: to do a lot of things for a lot of people.
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: I get asked to speak at events, go to functions.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I ask? Who's there? Who's going
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: to be in the room.
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: In fact, I got invited to last week and I said,
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: I will not say yes until I understand who.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I'm sharing the statue.
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: I don't believe this man.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: He lies fifteen seconds on this carrow.
• 48:28
  Speaker 18: We do fundraising all the time, Chris. We just do
• 48:31
  Speaker 18: in organizations. And guess what, I've shared a lot of
• 48:34
  Speaker 18: these sorts of dinners, and no one's coming to see me.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Caroline du Rousso and Jemmy ton Yuini.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: That's all the time we got for you tonight. I
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: just a plug for tomorrow night. Don't forget Paul Murray's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: special Ask Me Anything with Pauline Hansen. Please explain she's going.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: To be there with Paul and a live audience asking.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Her questions directly, nine o'clock tomorrow night. Here on News
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: twenty four. He's Pitty Quedlin