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Episode 368 - One Vision · TechtalkRadio

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  The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network. This is Alice
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  Cooper, the original technodd and you're listening to tech Talk Radio. Welcome to
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  another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Block. It's
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  Slick. It was kind of interesting though, because you know, I thought
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  about it. We really have to talk about what took place with the big
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  Apple Worldwide Developers Conference. It was funny, Sean Slick reached out to me.
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  Slick was raving about it. I think like Slick's point was what Apple
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  did was different than what we have seen in the past from other you know,
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  other people that have decided let's go into the world of augmented reality,
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  virtual reality, with the goggles, the whole bit. And Sean, did
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  you get a chance to see the demonstration at all? I mean I watched
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  what they showed on the you know, the keynote stuff, right. I
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  was sitting, I hung. I was at work, and I told people,
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  don't bother me. Yeah. I shut myself into one of our control
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  rooms and anytime somebody came out, I said, get out, Like I
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  did. Help I get out. I'll help you when it's over. And
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  uh no, it was really cool. I was, you know, I
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  knew they were going to announce their ARVR advice, right, we didn't know
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  what the name was, and they the name for it is Apple Vision,
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  which is I think it's probably one of the coolest names they've come up with
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  in any of their products. Apple Vision. It's dope, right, And
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  I was actually facetiming with a friend during the conference, talking listening and talking
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  about the stuff, and it's just we were just are what, it's weird.
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  It looks weird. And if it functions the way that they show it
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  functioning with just like no controllers, eye tracking, all of this immersion stuff,
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  right, it's gonna be really cool. Slick explained, like what you
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  thought about it that made you go, oh wow, because you watched the
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  first hour and then you said the second hour it was even more amazing.
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  Yeah, I watched the whole thing. There's a lot to talk about.
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  There's a lot I want to talk about. We could be here for the
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  night. However, let's the thing that jumped out of me because we're gonna
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  talk about the Vision prom um. And uh, I've never owned a MacBook.
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  I've always I've always wanted one to try it out. I've used Max,
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  I've used the mac Os, I've repaired it and all that. It's
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  kind of neat um, but I've never really put it to use to see
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  how it functions and performs for me. Yeah, and I'm a formed,
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  particular formed guy. I mean, like the MacBook Air when it first came
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  out. I mean, and some of the some of the other MacBooks are
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  too small, screens are too small. You know, I'm in there like
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  this working and I can't do that. Ye done the same issues too well.
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  But Kaylin has Kaylen got a MacBook Air back in twenty thirteen, right,
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  there was the first release of the MacBook Air at the Intel. I
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  five in it, you know, two hundred andy six meg or gig of
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  of storage, you know, the whole bit, right, And it's just
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  really small. The thirteen inch screen on those is tiny, and they had
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  a ten inch one also, right. It just was so small. I
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  didn't know why they would do it, but you know, they sold them,
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  so I guess it worked. You know, people loved them. And
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  then I assume it's because of the Mac experience, That's what I think,
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  not because it was you know so well, the Airs the Air sold really
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  well, because they were the first slimmist slimist laptop you could get on the
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  market. It slid into a person, backpack, you name it, right,
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  The battery life was incredible for them. They didn't have the brightest display,
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  so if you were working outside of all they were garbage. Right.
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  But it was a very lightweight, compact laptop. But it was also the
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  first to get rid of most of the buphrails, right, most of the
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  USB, most of the thunderbolt, most of the actual Landport RG forty five
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  parts. Right. So you had the people that hated it, but you
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  have Apple who was five six years ahead of the wireless generation, right,
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  Yeah, And you look back at everything Apple's done and they've always been five
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  six years ahead of innovation. And so what does that look like now for
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  the MacBook errors? Is like the MacBook error was five years ahead of six
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  years ahead of where it is now. And now look where's that? And
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  I think that's where Slick's going with with the with the error they announced during
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  the show. Yes I am, and just a reminder, seaw, my
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  birthday is coming up, so the backbook Air fifteen, I am in I'm
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  I mean, if if I really want one of these. I did check
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  all the pricing. I think it starts a like twelve ninety nine or something
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  like that. I don't know what the RAM is on it. But because
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  of because the way I work, and I'm not normal, I'm not like
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  everybody else. I mean, I need a lot because I have opened up
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  way too many browsers, with way too many windows, with way too many
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  tabs, and way too many applications running into background. That is me.
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  So you know, if I can't have what I want on one platform,
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  I used three computers at the same time. Why when I worked for Microsoft,
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  we had three computers at our desk at the same time for that reason.
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  Did you really wow? Yeah? Yeah. I had in front of
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  me, I had my main computer, and off to the right then I
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  had what would be considered my computer. So Microsoft set this up. However,
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  you want to do whatever you want now. Over to my left,
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  I had what we called the break me the Beta box, so I could
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  do literally anything to it or mimic you know, somebody calls it and I
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  got a problem, Well, I would damage. I could damage my Beta
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  machine and then just wipe the drive and start over right right, you know,
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  that's what it was there for to mimic the problem somebody else was having.
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  You know, yeah, I'm wondering though. Okay, So at twelve
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  ninety nine as a price point, right, when you talk to people that
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  maybe are not that ingrained in see they use a PC, they've never gone
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  over to Mac to experience what the macOS can do that's different, right,
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  And some people will say, well, Windows eleven is basically looks just like
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  the Mac and blah blah blah. Right, But the problem is, how
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  do you convince a consumer that is in that position, that has been a
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  PC user for so many years to say, look at this twelve ninety nine
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  MacBook that that you could use and it does this. When they look and
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  they see, oh, look this a sus or this Dell machine for four
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  ninety nine or a chromebook even, how do you convince them that it's gonna
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  work. I'm gonna ask them one question, right, I'm gonna ask them
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  if they have an iPhone or an Android. If they have an iPhone,
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  I'm gonna say, get a MacBook because it is going to be a seamless
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  integration for everything you're doing under iPhone. It's gonna look just like your iPhone.
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  It's gonna act just like your iPhone. You're gonna be able to handoff
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  apps between the two, like if you're all synked up with I Cloud.
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  It's it's a it is become a seamless solution with the with the introduction of
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  the M one, the Apple Silicon, the M one chip, and now
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  the M two chips. And we'll talk about the chips too, because I'm
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  gonna blow your mind with some spects on some of the MacBook pros, the
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  mac pro stuff they announced too. Right, it's a it's it's a user
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  experience. Right, if you're familiar with your iPhone, you're going to be
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  familiar with your Mac. It's that if that's it. Yeah, there may
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  be some Oh I can use text at it instead a notepad, or you
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  know, if you're a little bit more of a savvy user, it's terminal
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  instead of the command line. Right, It's like there are some nuances that
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  are different, but if you're just using it to browse the web and do
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  your social media and do a little bit of photo editing, the experience is
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  the same. Between that and a PC can agree with him. The integration
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  is just great. Yeah, I agree with him. I'm kind of wondering
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  if some of the the you know, the there is some good groups of
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  Mac groups that are out here, whether they be power users or first time
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  users, if somebody thinking about getting a Max should go visit some of these
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  Mac groups that have their you know, meetings maybe once a month, or
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  go to an Apple store put your hands on it Apple store or even even
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  a Best Buy that has you know, they're a little Apple area there.
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  I found that those reps are actually pretty knowledgeable, well because they're hired by
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  Apple. Has in best Buy, it's it's a pseudo Apple store, right,
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  they are actually Apple representatives in Best Buys. And remember, ladies and
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  gentlemen, as I always say, ask about the return policy. Yeah,
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  why why would you do that? Because you know some people are not happy.
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  They'll take they'll take it and they I thank it, you know,
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  after you give it. I say a week and a half because I will
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  assume the return policy is as short as two weeks, but it could be
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  longer. Yeah. I had somebody not long ago ask me that they were
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  going to finally you know, go in and buy a buy a Mac,
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  you know, desktop Mac that they really wanted to have and uh, they
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  said what should they do with their PC? And I said, keep it,
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  put it to the side, because they You're gonna be able to go
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  back and forth until you've fully ingrained in that OS. It's like you know,
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  taking somebody and putting them in you know, a Porsche or a Ferrari
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  and saying go ahead and drive it, or a car with a stick shift.
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  There's there's certain things you need to learn before you make that one hundred
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  degree switch. I think the idea of going to it. We have a
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  you know, an Apple store at lon Cantata. This will give them the
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  opportunity to get, like you said, hands on and ask the questions.
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  Yeah, he was kind of one of the points I wanted to make before
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  I forget about it. About the backbook Air fifteen. If I can get
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  one, I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna go for the the twenty four
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  gigabyte RAM unit only because I want to really put it through its paces.
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  I want to open up, like I said, multiple windows and run all
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  and see if I can choke it. I can choke computers. I've choked
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  them, yeah, still choking them. I want to see with this new
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  integration of the mac os and their M two chips. I want to see.
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  Yeah. Now, all right, speaking of M two. Now,
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  I know Sean, you've looked at some of the specs and we talked about
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  M two the first time we heard about it last year or even the year
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  before. It might have been, I don't remember, but you were even
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  then excited about what kind of performance that these M two chips are going to
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  give. Yeah, So they announced the M two Ultra chip. Right,
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  So for for for those of you who are listening, I work in a
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  broad I'm a broadcast engineer. I work in broadcasting, and this is why
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  I'm excited. Right, they finally announced for the Mac pros PCI Lane support,
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  PCI Express card support. Wow, so your Mac pros can now put
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  in Aja cards, black Magic cards, you name it, Matrox cards,
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  anything that's going to be able to do IO, video, audio, io
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  at PCI four. So that's incredible, right, So that's a huge step.
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  But the Mac two, the M two Ultra right up to twenty four
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  cores of CPU seventy six seventy six core GPU. It's they're they're claiming it's
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  forty times faster than the UH the m one, uh four times faster than
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  the Intel based Imax, six times faster than the uh yeah, six times
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  faster than that ten gig ethernet. It's got Thunderbolt four. You can do
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  up to one hundred and ninety two gigs of memory. Lam whow oh.
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  And they're saying that their memory internally will do eight hundred gigabits worth of bandwidth
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  between the memory. It's just in crazy crazy. So I'm gonna the stat
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  that that stuck out to be the most in this In this was days were
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  saying that the new Max Studios, not the MacPro, the macpros probably they
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  didn't have a lot of stats on the Mac Pro yet. Yeah, so
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  this is the Max Studio could take in twenty four four K streams so it
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  could play back in real time twenty four four K streams while also simultaneously transcoding
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  them to Apple pro rets with zero frame drops or whatever. They said.
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  They said some sort of really incredible you know, feet of engineering, right,
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  but that's crazy, twenty four four K streams playing while also transcoding those
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  twenty four streams and storing that as pro Apple progress. So for the for
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  the broadcast professional or media, whether it be you know, local streaming media,
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  whether it be production of like a production house. This would be a
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  solution that they would want to go to if they want to take less time
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  sitting in front of the computer doing rendering, streaming, broadcasting record of the
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  whole bit. Yeah, app apples just the last handful of updates for the
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  M one chips have just into and Amdy have got to pick it up if
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  they want to keep competing. Yeah, because if you're a production house,
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  you're you're buying up as much MP to ultras as you can buy right now,
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  Slick you you like that? Yeah? I do, I do.
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  I was you know, I was just wondering after they were rattling off the
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  specs to to Sean while he was watching the U the keynote. You know,
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  when at what point did you faint and then somebody picked you up off
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  the floor. My jaw was on the floor for most of it. Right.
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  It's just like it's when one of my other engineers was in there while
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  we were watching this part. Did you say, did they say twenty four
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  streams? And I said yeah, and then they said while also transcoding to
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  pro resid It's like it just was like you just kind of shake your head
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  and go, that's doesn't seem possible, right, because you think about it,
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  right, ten years ago, most Apple machines couldn't natively support H two
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  six four right when Final Cut ten came out, when they launched Final Cut
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  ten or what became Final Cut pro right, they did not natively support and
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  before or anything except progres right. So it's like, it's crazy to think
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  in that amount of them that jump now we're here, right, it's crazy
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  how fast well we're going. Let's let's talk about the technology that that also
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  got the most pressed. Now what we're talking about probably, Yeah, there
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  were a lot of the tech publications. We're covering it. David David Polke
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  I think was covering some of it. But it seemed to be like even
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  David and some of the major the other major journalists were more into the you
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  know, Apple vision because that's honestly what the public is going to see and
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  say, wow, I get it just by seeing what it does. So
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  it's different from Oculus, whereas Oculus provides the experience all within the goggle.
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  Everything is in the goggle or you've seen if you've used any of the other
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  devices where you have your smartphone, you know inside something you're wearing on your
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  head, that's what you're looking at. Apple Vision has pulled that block and
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  now they're giving you your reality mixed with this virtual reality that Apple or augmented
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  reality that Apple is able to do someone akin to being and I hate to
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  compare it to the but remember Pokemon Go. You're going down the street.
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  Oh you know, think about it's probably a bad example, but you're going
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  down the street. There's your little squiggle and you you you're interacting with it
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  that way. It's the same kind of idea that you're in your reality,
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  but you've got this augmented reality that's in front of you. Uh, Tim
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  Cook, I think what did the demonstration where he was showing, you know,
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  he could he could turn his head to the right and there was a
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  screen that would be the icons. So you're not looking, you know,
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  moving a mouse over A to a on a monitor. There in the air
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  is your icons. And he puts his hand up in the air and you
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  know, he pushes the icon virtually that he wants and it will start the
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  program on the screen in the middle. I mean, it's pretty amazing,
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  but will people spend that money for this technology. Yeah. I kind of
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  slunk back into my chair because I was like this. I was all I
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  was on the edge of my seat, on the end of my seat,
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  and I was like, all right, this is gonna be like two grand,
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  right, right. I was like this, that's gonna be It's gonna
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  be the price point, it's gonna be amazing, it's gonna be affordable.
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  Four thousand dollars s thirty nine nine nine. Yeah, four grand is a
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  lot of money. It's a lot of money. Do you mean drones I
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  could buy with that much of money. Well, you can't buy one entire
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  Inspire. Let's face it. I can't buy the Inspire, right, but
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  I could buy four magot pros. Yeah, Or you can put the down
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  payment on the Inspire. That would be good. It's just I just I
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  get it right. It's Apple, and they have to be. They're light
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  years ahead of the other tech, right just from what I saw, right,
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  it feels like they are five years six years ahead of you know,
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  the Halevision and the the Well, the other headsets, you know, the
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  Beta one, the Medu, but not that much, not that price point.
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  Yeah, Flick, would this be something you would find use for.
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  Absolutely, he's just mad about the money this, gentleman. Welcome to the
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  world of spatial computing. This is a stuff that was in the movies.
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  We are here now, and this is what it costs to enter this world.
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  We'll start at thirty five hundred. Yeah, we'll just start. Everything
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  starts to where we can't afford it. Well, yeah, I think if
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  you think about computers back in the nineties, you know, you got to
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  look at a PC with a core maybe a tenth of the power that we
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  get today, and you were going to spend thirty nine hundred dollars. Yeah,
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  Yeah, I just think it's a it's yeah, you're right, it's
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  everything has a price to be at the bleeding edge, right, But if
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  you look at what people people have been specking out PC rigs, full emergent
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  VR rigs, and they're just barely touching the four k mark on some of
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  that. Yeah, right, So I think you're you're just you're gonna get
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  the people that want to spend the money and be at the bleeding edge,
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  and just if they made it a little bit more affordable, they could pull
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  in such a larger market share. But yeah, but they're gonna make enough
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  money off, gonna make enough to get started, come on, but then
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  they'll lower the price and they come up with a different model for us poor
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  people. And a listener Mark who called here at the station I was on
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  that day and was asking me about it, and I wanted to know though,
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  if they were to drop that money on the the Apple Vision, would
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  they also have to own a Mac. Nope, so it's all self contained.
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  A yeah, it runs Vision os. Now back going back to what
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  we said earlier, right, all this this whole ecosystem, right, So
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  if you have a Mac or an iPad, it's gonna be great because one
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  thing, one of the coolest features I think was part of it was you
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  have your back running. You just say, all right, I want my
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  desktop in VR, and you just say, give me my desktop and you
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  just look over and there's your desktop and it runs everything off of your computer,
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  So your computer is still doing all the processing and all that stuff,
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  but you're seeing the virtually rendered desktop within your air environment. Yeah. On
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  the only downside to this, and I was telling Glory about that and I
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  showed her the demo is that you know she works in the health health industry
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  and asked to meet people, and you know, they come and give that
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  info. If she had something like that and they were utilizing that, they'd
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  be pointing up in the air. You'd see people. That's all they're doing,
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  pointing everywhere, you know, trying to get access to all the screeds
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  and the prompts and the whole bit. I mean, it would it would
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  be kind of cool to see. Yeah, it's going to be interesting seeing
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  somebody else use it without context. Yeah, where it's like, is there
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  going to be a way where you can see what they're seeing internally? Like,
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  you know, if I have my heads up again my computer, I
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  can still output what my headset is seeing to a monitor so other people can
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  watch what I'm seeing. But it's an idea. Yeah, is that I
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  don't think that's part of this, but it's just no, you know.
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  But it's weird because if I walk in the room and you're wearing the goggles
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  or the you know, the vision it's smart enough to know that you're in
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  the room and makes it so you can see my eyes. Yeah, that
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  is that's so trippy. It's and yeah, you would know somebody's there.
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  It's not like you're a closed experience like the you know, made of headsets
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  where you're you don't know if somebody's behind you, which is kind of scary.
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  In this case, you're fully aware of what's going on in the room,
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  which again that could also be a real popular selling point for people who
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  want to try it. And I know Slick is one of those. I
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  want to use it. I don't want to just try it. I want
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  to use it. I want to be able to not have to sit here
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  and talk to you, and I could we could do this and I could
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  walk to the kitchen and start making sandwiches while we're doing the broadcast. I
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  mean, you know, I don't have to be right here in front of
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  the computer. We can tell more Mustard, more Mayo. Yeah, exactly.
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  All right, we gotta take a quick break. Coming up, we're
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  gonna talk with representatives from Netgear. Netgear has been making some great products.
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  We recently looked at the Mural two, which is a digital photo frame and
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  was great. But they got so many other great products. And I don't
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  know if you guys know this, but June is Internet Safety Month, so
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  it's kind of a great month to find out some products that they have that
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  can help keep you safe while you're using your routers, your modems and other
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  technology in the home. Also, if you're going to go stay in a
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  hotel, why you want to take one of their devices with you. So
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  we'll find out about that, and then we're going to talk about irrigation digital
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  technology to help you irrigate your yards. That's all coming up with more of
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  tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Ward. I am Slick.
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  Find us on the radio at tech talk radio dot com and on the
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  web too. Find us on the radio. Oh, that's right, and
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  that factor tech talk radio. You know, I get really excited when we
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  see new products and we see products that help us when it comes to getting
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  online and our online security. And one of the companies that has been at
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  the forefront for that is Netgear, and with us on the line is our
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  senior product line manager with Netgear, Shalini sen Gupta. Welcome to tech talk
• 22:36
  Radio. Not to be here, thanks for having me. Can you tell
• 22:38
  us a little history about the company. I think everybody's heard about it,
• 22:42
  but where did Netgear get it start? Shalini? So, it's actually twenty
• 22:47
  five plus year company it's almost getting onto its third decade now. It's based
• 22:52
  in Santa Clara. It's it's an American company, and it's always been in
• 22:56
  networking solutions, and it's always been in both the home and the business networking
• 23:02
  solutions. So what it's most known for, I think are it's a abbiline
• 23:07
  of Mesh products. It's Nighthawk routers, cable modems, so the entire networking
• 23:12
  solution. And when it started out, it was, as you said,
• 23:17
  you know, it was known for some of its innovation that it brought to
• 23:18
  its space, and now we're also getting into all the security services and other
• 23:23
  services around some of these products. Essentially, this month is Internet Safety Month.
• 23:30
  What does that mean for a company like Netgear. I think it's about
• 23:33
  bringing awareness around safety to the community, to the educators, to essentially everybody
• 23:42
  and anybody who's using the Internet. We just released a report, you know,
• 23:48
  we were working with our partner, bid Defender, and we're seeing that
• 23:52
  you know, on average household today has around forty six connected devices. Wow,
• 23:57
  forty six connected so yeah, and most of these are like IOD devices,
• 24:03
  et cetera. So it's really about, you know, bringing awareness about
• 24:06
  the threats and dangers as you use all these products online and as some of
• 24:11
  this threat landscape also changes. Essentially, Yeah, we hear all the time
• 24:15
  about ransomware attacks. We hear about attacks even just on regular you know,
• 24:19
  mom nipop, small business or even homeowners that just you know, just get
• 24:23
  online. They think they're just checking email, and there's so many different things
• 24:26
  that can happen. But we have to be concerned too, not only with
• 24:32
  the companies and you know, our parents, but our children. Our children
• 24:36
  get online and do you have any tips? I know that you know people
• 24:40
  are always asking me, hey, how do I you know, how do
• 24:41
  I keep my kids safe when they're getting online at home? I think some
• 24:45
  of it is basic education, right, I mean, just having that conversation
• 24:49
  with your child about what where to go and where not to what links to
• 24:55
  click is an important one. I mean, so you could have you can
• 25:00
  have malicious u rls that you click on, which you know, put essentially
• 25:06
  agents that can deposit malware on your devices. So it's really about a little
• 25:11
  bit of it is around education. UM. You know, you all also
• 25:15
  want to take basic precautions like UM, you know, ensure that you have
• 25:21
  some kind of security software UM and you have some kind of parental controls.
• 25:25
  So parental controls, for example, would allow you to filter out URLs that
• 25:30
  are not you know, child appropriate, etc. So some of those kind
• 25:34
  of basic tools, um you know, having those uh also allows you that
• 25:41
  second layer kind of of precaution. There is a misconception, isn't there when
• 25:45
  it comes to people who say, you know, I just use my computer
• 25:48
  for email, that's all I do. Or maybe you know, I'll go
• 25:52
  on to Etsy or I'll go on one of the many sites out there maybe
• 25:56
  buy stuff, and they think that they're they're safe, they think they don't
• 26:00
  need this extra layer of protection. But really that is a misconception because even
• 26:06
  with just getting an email that can open up our systems to malware and other
• 26:10
  types of problems we may run into. Absolutely. I mean, it's one
• 26:14
  of the I think most common forms of a threat you know of basically you
• 26:21
  know, people kind of hacking into your device. Because some of the most
• 26:26
  common things are obviously stam as where you know just the amount of stam you
• 26:30
  get and slows out on your device, etc. So you want to be
• 26:33
  careful of that. You want to be careful of all the fishing links I
• 26:37
  was just talking about some examples. You know, I was just reading an
• 26:40
  article that you know, Google used to have this verified or just had introduced
• 26:44
  this verified checkmark right right, and you know, very recently. Basically what
• 26:48
  happened is somebody managed to spoof it essentially or hack it. So it was
• 26:52
  meant to validate or verify your identity. And so now you have a situation
• 26:59
  where that's being spool so you don't know that those people are actually who they
• 27:03
  say they are, right, so you have I think emails are targeted most
• 27:08
  often, you know, and it's one of the like, as I said,
• 27:11
  one of the most common forms of threats of threat actually just the other
• 27:18
  day and I've been in this, I've been doing this for over thirty years.
• 27:22
  The other day I got an email in from on my Exfinity account from
• 27:26
  Exfinity saying, you know your bills passed you and I'm thinking, huh no,
• 27:30
  it shouldn't be pasted, duo, it's not you know, not do
• 27:33
  the eighth And I remember I clicked to see the email and I didn't click
• 27:37
  any links. But then I thought, way, Andy, what are you
• 27:40
  doing. You know you don't do that, don't click on anything. In
• 27:42
  an email because that opens you up. Now, we have some listeners that
• 27:47
  may be listening that say, well, you know, I love neck gear.
• 27:49
  I've got neck gear equipment, but they may have bought it about twelve
• 27:52
  years ago, fifteen years ago. There have been new vulnerabilities, there have
• 27:56
  been, of course strides and getting our access three, getting that a lot
• 28:02
  faster. Is it going to benefit the average user to actually look at some
• 28:06
  of the products that are available now to maybe upgrade or enhance their Internet corrected
• 28:11
  devices? Yeah, I mean all your whether it's the device or the router,
• 28:15
  I think, you know, having regular updates. So the problem with
• 28:18
  some of these old devices is they don't get all the security updates right,
• 28:22
  Yeah, and they might not even be fully updated in terms of their operating
• 28:26
  systems, so you know, they're prone to vulnerabilities and prone to essentially being
• 28:33
  hacked. Routers. You know, we constantly deliver firmware updates right on our
• 28:40
  routers for example, making sure you're updated to the latest is really important.
• 28:45
  But if it's really that old, like twelve plus years old, sometimes it
• 28:48
  doesn't even get these updates. They're not even compatible with a lot of the
• 28:52
  you know, newer kind of releases, So I think it's really important to
• 28:56
  kind of either mean and totally overhaul your system or keep upgrading essentially. You
• 29:03
  know. The other issue is a lot of these as you know, kind
• 29:07
  if you progress as the newer releases have a lot of these enhanced security future
• 29:11
  features, for example built in VPN, you know, so you don't have
• 29:18
  access to all of that as or better fire walls. You don't have access
• 29:22
  to all of that if you don't have essentially the latest security product. I
• 29:26
  talked to somebody recently that was paying for, you know, high speed cable
• 29:30
  access, and they were using an old modem and they didn't realize that they
• 29:36
  were kept out with that old modem. You need to upgrade that modem,
• 29:38
  which is what I did, and I got myself a Netcare modem and I
• 29:42
  love it. Suddenly I saw my speeds going from the two hundred to three
• 29:45
  hundred all the way up to almost a gig a bit because that's what I
• 29:49
  was paying for. Yeah. Absolutely, I talked about the security aspect of
• 29:52
  it, but exactly, I mean, performance is a huge issue as well.
• 29:56
  If you're not going to optimize what you pay for on those older equipment.
• 30:00
  So it's really uh, you know what's looking at and upgrade periodically.
• 30:06
  Now I know that some people have asked us to you know, they may
• 30:08
  have a deal with their cable company or even in some cases DSL provider.
• 30:14
  When it comes to that equipment, you pay rental on it. Uh.
• 30:18
  And I had a director at the TV station just ask me he's got DSL
• 30:22
  uh And I hadn't run a speed test and it was it was horrid,
• 30:26
  It was horrid. Um. But he wanted to know. Um. He
• 30:27
  wanted to get out of paying for that rental for from the from the provider
• 30:33
  uh. And wanted to know what's the best way to go. And I
• 30:34
  said, well, you could get your own modem, You can get your
• 30:37
  own router. In many cases, it's just a matter of checking with the
• 30:41
  company. Is that something wise to do for people if they really want to
• 30:45
  control their own situation. So it's not just like if you're talking about the
• 30:49
  security aspects of this, um, you know, it's not just the security
• 30:53
  of their routo. It's the security of everything that's connected to that device.
• 30:57
  Right. It can be a point of essentially a source of getting hat And
• 31:03
  so when you look at all the IoT devices for example on you in your
• 31:07
  home network. Those are most vulnerable to be attacked. And if you're just
• 31:11
  support you know, kind of protecting your router, you're not really protecting all
• 31:15
  those additional devices, right. So having something that you know you're purchasing on
• 31:22
  retail oftentimes gives you that added security where you are not just protecting your router,
• 31:30
  but everything that's connecting to it. Right, You're kind of blocking out
• 31:33
  any kind of sources for vulnerabilities. UM. You know. So for example,
• 31:40
  the net year Router has come with this subscription service called Armor, which
• 31:44
  allows you kind of that level of security. UM. Also you know,
• 31:48
  you basically you get maybe you get some of the latest technology because a lot
• 31:55
  of these companies are you know, just focus their experts at you know what
• 31:59
  they do, which is the networking solution. You know, it's it's um
• 32:01
  that's that's essentially what they focus on. And you just have a wider option.
• 32:07
  You know, one size sometimes doesn't fit all homes, you know,
• 32:10
  like mesh systems for example, if you have larger homes, UM you know,
• 32:15
  UM, where you are looking for a wider coverage. UM. You
• 32:20
  know. In those cases, you know you want kind of something which which
• 32:24
  gives you a little more of that network, that network coverage. You know,
• 32:29
  there are other things I could talk about, like who has your data?
• 32:31
  Like, you know, do you know exactly things? You know?
• 32:36
  Are those you know I sps? Do they have visibility and all your data?
• 32:39
  Are you comfortable with that? You know? Net net Year for example,
• 32:44
  does not collect user data um you know, customer support. You know,
• 32:46
  there are other kind of you know, think kind of factors to think
• 32:51
  through UM as users kind of decide what solution is the best for them.
• 32:57
  And that gear has a wide range of products, does it. I mean
• 33:00
  for somebody that maybe lives at a small home that has maybe a PC connected
• 33:05
  or Mac or maybe even two that are connected, but wants to have this
• 33:08
  to be able to go throughout this smaller home, they have products for that.
• 33:13
  But if then they have this big expansive mansion like I don't have,
• 33:17
  then they could then they could also use this this Mesh system, which is
• 33:22
  pretty amazing and we're seeing more and more about this and getting faster throughput.
• 33:27
  But some people don't understand how Mesh really kind of kind of works. Yeah,
• 33:30
  exactly, So, I mean, so the MESH systems essentially have satellites,
• 33:36
  which you know, allow you to kind of get coverage. Better coverage
• 33:40
  is a coverage in those rooms that are really far out from your main kind
• 33:45
  of router versus you know, something like our Nighthawks set of products, which
• 33:50
  is all about speed and performance, but doesn't have that kind of mesh coverage.
• 33:54
  So it really depends on what you're looking for. But yeah, Netgear
• 33:59
  kind of goes across both types of products and types of networking solutions. But
• 34:04
  the Nighthawk looks so amazing. I mean it really does. I mean it's
• 34:07
  it sits there and it looks cool. When you think of some of our
• 34:10
  devices we've had over the years. Yeah, you know it looks like a
• 34:15
  box. This one looks pretty pretty stand out. Now there's also a product,
• 34:19
  it's called the Nighthawk em sex Pro. Is this something that you would
• 34:22
  take with you if you were traveling, maybe you're gonna stay in a hotel.
• 34:25
  You want to be connected, and there's always kind of a little security
• 34:29
  reminders when it comes to that. The Nighthawk m sex pro essentially, so
• 34:35
  you want to have secure Wi Fi wherever you go, right, and then
• 34:37
  you know you want that reliable Wi Fi as well and so, and then
• 34:44
  you want those higher speeds compared to a typical WiFi. And those are all
• 34:46
  the reasons why you would take something you would connect to something like an M
• 34:50
  sex pro. It allows you to simultaneously connect to you know, various devices,
• 34:57
  and is password protected, is encrypted. Um, it's more convenient from
• 35:01
  that perspective, So you definitely want to take something like this mobile hot spot.
• 35:07
  UM. It's better than you know, just having using your phone as
• 35:12
  a hot spot. UM. You know, because of all the convenience I
• 35:15
  talked about, and you know, sometimes you also get those unwanted ads when
• 35:20
  you start connecting to some of these public WIFISUM. So all reasons to kind
• 35:27
  of have your own kind of mobile hotspot, UM, something like an M
• 35:30
  six pro. When it comes to you know, Internet Security Month, here
• 35:34
  we talk about protecting the home network and you you're touched upon Armor. How
• 35:38
  does that work? Yeah, So Armor is essentially built into your all your
• 35:44
  Obi and Nighthawk products. So there's an agent that's on your router. So
• 35:50
  each time you're connecting any device connected to that router, and that route itself
• 35:54
  is essentially protected. So all, um, you know, all the traffic
• 36:00
  is filtered UM, and we ensure that there is and we slag any malware,
• 36:05
  any kinds of threats. UM, you'll get an instant notification saying we've
• 36:08
  detected it and you've blocked it. So it's not just at that router level,
• 36:13
  but it's all the devices you know that you that are connecting to it,
• 36:17
  whether it's your smart TV. You know, the same report I was
• 36:22
  referencing earlier was talking about how smart TVs and you know, some of these
• 36:27
  IoT devices are the largest sources of vulnerabilities. Vulnerabilities being essentially backdoors that hackers
• 36:35
  can end. It can essentially hack and you know, infiltrate into your network.
• 36:38
  So it's really important not just to protect you know, your PC or
• 36:44
  your laptop, but everything that's connected. And that's what armored does UM.
• 36:49
  And you know it's it's also got so assume you know, if you're taking
• 36:53
  your device and you're outside your house, UM, it's got an antivirus software
• 36:59
  that you can down road so you can continue to stay protected even though you're
• 37:01
  outside your house. It also has VPN, it has some added kind of
• 37:07
  benefits and features that like ANTITHEP protection, all of that that you can utilize
• 37:14
  and this is for unlimited devices, you know, so it's pretty cool.
• 37:17
  That way, very good. Now, if our listeners want to get more
• 37:21
  information about some of the different products that are available from Netgear to protect them
• 37:25
  not only during Internet Security Month this month, but also you know, just
• 37:30
  to know that they have that peace of mind, what's the best thing to
• 37:32
  do. Yes, so you can just go on to Netgear dot com and
• 37:37
  get all the information on the Netgear products. And as I said, Armor
• 37:43
  is our security subscription. It's a subscription service, so it's built onto all
• 37:49
  these orb and nighthawks. So once you purchase that router, you can you
• 37:52
  get activated, and you can you get automatically activated, and then you know,
• 37:57
  you can decide after your trial whether you want to purchase it on.
• 38:00
  But yeah, Netgear dot com should give you all the information on all our
• 38:04
  routers and then all our subscription services. Now, for our listeners that have
• 38:08
  been thinking, you know, maybe Orbit would be the good way to go
• 38:12
  because they've got different rooms throughout the home that some don't get the best signal,
• 38:15
  and they may have they may be able to want to watch you know,
• 38:19
  they're streaming streaming media on their big television. What is that easy to
• 38:23
  set up. Is that something that you know, somebody listening right now that
• 38:27
  maybe is not two tech savvy but likes this idea, would like to do
• 38:30
  this? Can they implement that pretty easily? Yeah? I mean so our
• 38:36
  whole set up process is you have a guide which is really simple. It's
• 38:40
  two three steps and it's pretty automatic. Like once you once you uh,
• 38:45
  you know, kind of unbox it and said, you know, kind of
• 38:46
  plug it in. It's you know, there's hardly a couple of steps just
• 38:52
  in terms of setting up your account and then you're pretty much, you know,
• 38:54
  good to go. Takes should take you five minutes to really set it
• 39:00
  up. Essentially, it's a quick onboarding process. Very good, Selni,
• 39:05
  thank you so much for coming on tech Talk Radio. Give it us a
• 39:07
  great overview of the products available from Netgear and again that's netgear dot com for
• 39:13
  our listeners. How many questions they could do that it or drop us a
• 39:15
  line and we'll definitely answer that for him. Thank you again for coming on
• 39:19
  the show. Thanks for having me. This is fun. Thanks Andy,
• 39:22
  Thank you. And if you've been thinking about using technology to help not only
• 39:25
  in the house, but how about outside the home around the yard new technology
• 39:30
  from a company called Eera Green. We'll find out what that's all about and
• 39:34
  how we can save you money. Coming up on tech talk Radio. Find
• 39:37
  us on the web at tech talk radio dot com. Now back to TikTok
• 39:42
  Radio and welcome back to tech talk Radio. You know, it's great when
• 39:47
  we find smart home technology that helps us in our homes. There's so many
• 39:52
  different products now, I mean, even our refrigerators can be smart refrigerators.
• 39:58
  But when it comes to the outside of the home and when it comes to
• 40:01
  you know, managing what's going on outside, there are ways to make that
• 40:06
  even easier and to help be conservative when it comes to our environment. And
• 40:12
  there is a company out there called Iera Green that actually takes that whole idea
• 40:17
  and helps using smart technology in developed They've developed a digital smart sprinkler system and
• 40:23
  with us on the line is the CEO and co founder of Ergen, Shane
• 40:28
  Dyer. Shane, thanks for coming on tech talk Radio. Such a pleasure
• 40:31
  Andy for those of us in Arizona, we know that you know, the
• 40:35
  rising water costs have affected many There's been a water shortage as well that we
• 40:40
  know about now. While a lot of us may have maybe rocks. In
• 40:45
  our front yard, we use pebble and stone. A lot of us still
• 40:47
  would like to have a nice garden, and a lot of us can do
• 40:51
  that. We have a very luscious garden in our backyard. But of course,
• 40:54
  being smart when it comes to you know, watering them and reducing the
• 41:00
  cost of water can be done digitally with Irregreen. Tell us a little bit
• 41:04
  about the idea for the company. How did you guys start up? Sure,
• 41:07
  well, my partner, Gary is an injet printer inventor, and he
• 41:10
  was just walking along one day and saw all the awful things that happened with
• 41:15
  sprinklers. You know, everyone's familiar with water running down your driveway into the
• 41:21
  sidewalk and the amount of waste there. But it turns out that what he
• 41:24
  saw was a lot of the waste was just in the areas to those sprinkler
• 41:28
  systems with the mechanical heads overlap. So, being an injet printer inventor,
• 41:32
  he looked at this and said, what if we could print the water.
• 41:37
  So when you get an irregreen system instead of having those sort of mechanical sprinkler
• 41:40
  heads that are all the way around the perimeter of your yard, you get
• 41:44
  one of these smart heads that sits in the middle and it waters up to
• 41:47
  about thirty feet and it follows all the contours of your yard, putting down
• 41:52
  a completely even layer of water, which means you're saving about half the water
• 41:58
  for the same plant growthier with for it's just incredible. You know, if
• 42:00
  you're you know, in the middle of the summer here, you know,
• 42:02
  you really want some of these green things around your yard, even if you're
• 42:07
  in an arid area. But you know you don't necessarily want to get that
• 42:10
  two hundred and three hundred dollars water bill in the middle of the summer.
• 42:13
  We've got to do something to fix that. So ir Agreen, you know,
• 42:15
  not only gives you, you know, this smart home extension outside your
• 42:20
  home to water your home with this sort of you know bellagio fountain that'll pop
• 42:23
  up in your backyard and water your your green stuff, right, but it's
• 42:28
  also really going to help cut into that water bill, and you know,
• 42:30
  also do this kind of the responsible for the environment, which means, you
• 42:34
  know, we still want these green things around us, but we just need
• 42:37
  to water them in a much more smart way. Now we have seen technology
• 42:40
  become easier when it comes to what's inside our home and smart home technology,
• 42:45
  how about this as far as implementing this, what is what a kind of
• 42:49
  the step set our listeners would would take in getting this all digital irrigation system
• 42:53
  from air Agreen put in. Well, it's pretty amazing because each one of
• 42:57
  these heads, instead of putting in ten heads around the perimeter, you're replacing
• 43:01
  it with just one head. So that means there's about eighty percent less you
• 43:05
  know, digging in your yard or anything else like that to put one of
• 43:07
  these systems in. In fact, we have a majority of our customers actually
• 43:12
  put it in DIY in their yard. Now you can always have a landscape
• 43:15
  contractor coming and put it in for you if that's not the kind of thing
• 43:17
  you do, but it's But one of the things that's interesting is it's just
• 43:21
  a much easier system. In a traditional irrigation system, not only do you
• 43:25
  have you know, like forty heads around a yard that Irogreen can do it
• 43:29
  without five heads, but you also have all those valves and wires, all
• 43:32
  those irrigation valves, and those are completely gone when you put it in Irrogreen
• 43:37
  system on one of these digital systems. But a much easier, you know,
• 43:40
  a lot less labor to put in and just a lot less you know,
• 43:44
  kind of muck to manage all over your yard. What I really love
• 43:47
  about this, too, Shamee, is when you go to the irragreen website,
• 43:52
  which is irregreen dot com, you can actually put in your address and
• 43:55
  what's great about it, you can actually see how your system is laid out,
• 44:00
  maybe get a quote if you want to configure your own system, or
• 44:05
  maybe a pro to come out and do it. But you'll actually get kind
• 44:07
  of a Google image visual representation of your home and the surroundings and areas that
• 44:15
  may need to be taken care of. Yeah, and it even goes further
• 44:16
  than that, Like if you go to irrigreen dot com, if you put
• 44:20
  in your home address, it pulls up that satellite picture and then you're basically
• 44:24
  putting little boundary lines around what you want to have water. And then you
• 44:28
  can drag in these digital heads to basically see how much you know the lawn
• 44:32
  you'll cover and how many of the meal need. But then the amazing thing
• 44:37
  is it actually goes back to like three years of historical daily weather data to
• 44:40
  figure out how much rainfall they are and how much you know, how much
• 44:44
  water it takes to keep you know, plants or lawn alive, and will
• 44:47
  actually give you an estimate of how many gallons of water you'd save by not
• 44:52
  using a traditional mechanical irrigation system instead using a way more efficial digital irrigation system.
• 44:59
  You can just you know, make your water bill, figure out how
• 45:00
  much you pay for water, and get a real good estimate of how much
• 45:02
  money you'll say, so this is you know, this is the first sprinkler
• 45:06
  system that will literally pay for itself. Yeah, I'm looking at the demo
• 45:09
  of Shane and what I find so amazing is, you know, how many
• 45:14
  times have I gone out in a situation and maybe you've watered a certain area,
• 45:17
  but unfortunately maybe you've got a driveway there, or maybe you've got the
• 45:22
  patio which of course doesn't need watering. As this is turning around and spitting
• 45:27
  around using the smart technology and how you've set it up, it can actually
• 45:30
  say it gets to that area where you would see it getting covered with water
• 45:36
  that doesn't need it, it'll actually reduce the consumption and not spray out the
• 45:40
  water on that part. So it can be all customized to fit the layout
• 45:45
  of your home, and it can be adjusted if you do add things correct.
• 45:47
  Yeah, that's correct. This is a really, you know, just
• 45:51
  amazing part in terms of delight because once you have one of these digital heads,
• 45:54
  there's an app on your phone where you can basically put out these little
• 45:59
  dots to make it spray any pattern, so it completely follows that line on
• 46:04
  your patio or that line on your driveway without getting any water spilling over.
• 46:07
  It's really accurate. And once it does that, you know, you have
• 46:12
  a little play button where you can actually watch it trace that entire shape that
• 46:15
  you created, so it's putting water exactly where you want it and not where
• 46:20
  you want It's really beautiful to see. And that's the other part you mentioned
• 46:22
  before, which is flexibility. Like we all like to change our lawns,
• 46:25
  but if you put in a traditional mechanical sprinkler system, as soon as you
• 46:30
  put in that shed, you've got to dig up and basically do a plumbing
• 46:34
  project while you move all the heads around and you put new lines in and
• 46:37
  you put new heads in. If you have an earrogreen system, all you
• 46:40
  do is pick up your app and redraw the shape that you'd like it to
• 46:45
  water and it takes you like two minutes and you didn't have to dig anything
• 46:47
  up. So it gives you so much more flexibility to be able to garden
• 46:52
  and do the things that we love to do on our backyards without having to
• 46:54
  worry about triggering a big, expensive, dirty plumbing project. Yeah. The
• 46:58
  other part about it too. Yeah, we're we're thinking about adding a gazebo,
• 47:00
  so obviously that would change the structure, and with this we'd be able
• 47:05
  to kind of coordinate how it's going to go and where it's going to go.
• 47:07
  Also, let's face it, Shane, you know here during the summer
• 47:10
  months, it can get to be you know, one hundred and fifteen hundred
• 47:14
  and twenty degrees. If you miss getting out at that prime time, or
• 47:17
  maybe you have to work and do the watering, you're going to stand out
• 47:21
  there and heat. You don't have to do that when this system is installed.
• 47:24
  Yeah, that's what makes this really good in terms of like a homener,
• 47:28
  especially if you're a busy person, A regular irrigation system, even if
• 47:31
  you have like a smart controller right one that's connected to you know, to
• 47:36
  like a weather or soil moisture. The problem with those are that they're just
• 47:39
  connected to regular valves, so they just sort of turn on those valves and
• 47:43
  turn them off, but they don't really know how much water is going down
• 47:46
  or how efficient that system is. With Irregreine, we know exactly how much
• 47:52
  water is printed, so it keeps track of, you know, given the
• 47:55
  kind of plants that you have, how much water they'll need, how much
• 48:00
  rainfall there is, and also how hot it's been, how windy it's been,
• 48:04
  so how much water needs to be replaced in that soil. So it's
• 48:07
  kind of once you set it up, it's sort of fire and forget it.
• 48:09
  Basically auto waters and figures out exactly how much water needs to go down
• 48:13
  and not put it, not put down a drop more. I know there
• 48:15
  are many listeners right now listening going this is what we've needed, this is
• 48:20
  what we want to get. And again this beats that traditional even with that
• 48:23
  automated system. This really beats that because you can really customize it. Now,
• 48:28
  say you wanted to kind of change the flow or change pardon the pun,
• 48:32
  but if you wanted to change maybe a time and whatnot, you can
• 48:37
  do that all via a smartphone or an app that they'd be able to access.
• 48:40
  Yeah, you have a smartphone app that's really easy to use, and
• 48:45
  not only that, you can use it from anywhere in the world. So
• 48:46
  if you're on vacation and you want to check on your system, it will
• 48:50
  show you how much water is being put down and if you want to make
• 48:52
  changes to it, like water on different days or sometimes like you know,
• 48:55
  your neighborhood will say you could only water a few days, you can set
• 48:59
  that up to make sure that you're always in compliance. Well, it's really
• 49:01
  really cool to have a way to feel like you have full control but also
• 49:05
  make it easy enough just for a regular consumer. You know, if you
• 49:07
  can use your remote control for your TV, you can control all this stuff.
• 49:10
  What is going to be the best way for them to do it?
• 49:14
  And can you give us kind of an idea. I mean it's going to
• 49:15
  vary on each system of what kind of costs they're looking at kind of implementing
• 49:21
  irrigreen. Sure, absolutely, So the best way to do it is basically
• 49:25
  just go to www. Doteargreen dot com and there's a place in there where
• 49:29
  if you want to play around yourself, you can put in your address,
• 49:31
  but there's also a button there if you want to talk to one of the
• 49:35
  ear we have irrigation pros. You can go ahead and set up a little
• 49:37
  fifteen minute call or appointment where they'll basically walk through and for free kind of
• 49:42
  custom design a system putting water where you need it, and then also just
• 49:45
  talk you through an answer and of your questions. So that's probably the easiest
• 49:47
  way to go. Systems range anywhere from a little less than two thousand bucks,
• 49:52
  you know, for small systems, to you know, three thousand dollars
• 49:55
  or more for like larger systems in that case as well. But remember that
• 50:00
  this is also really helping you save on those water bills. So in many
• 50:04
  places that have expensive water, like the Southwest or Arizona in particular, you
• 50:09
  know, you see payback periods for these in like three years or four years
• 50:13
  where you've made your money back excellent, So it saves money on that saves
• 50:17
  water consumptioncy really you are helping the environment, especially as we continue to see
• 50:22
  kind of a water shortage throughout our state. And of course you have control,
• 50:27
  and that's the best thing about it. If you're like me sometimes I'm
• 50:30
  a little lazy. You're getting out there and watering, and you know,
• 50:32
  the plants suffer. This is a great way to really have that control,
• 50:36
  to know that they're going to get that. Aeragreen dot com is the website
• 50:40
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• 50:45
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• 50:47
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• 50:50
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• 50:53
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• 50:58
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• 51:12
  website of the week, a product of the week, a link of the
• 51:14
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• 51:21
  talk radio we're talking about you know this and it's something I should look at.
• 51:24
  But we we're thinking, you know, honestly, you have Diablo four
• 51:29
  which came out Apple Vision. We talked about that. We're thinking, okay,
• 51:32
  maybe Apple Vision really is not only a product of the week, even
• 51:37
  though we haven't got our hands on it. From the demonstration we saw,
• 51:42
  I think that probably would be kind of our product of the month. It's
• 51:46
  gonna be talking about product of the year. Yeah, it really could be.
• 51:50
  Right. This was the most tight lipped thing Apples had recently that hasn't
• 51:53
  been leaked. Man, it was incredible and there was a lot of hype
• 51:57
  coming around it because everybody knew they were going to announce it right moote it
• 52:00
  to executives and their board and stuff a couple like two months ago or something.
• 52:04
  It's gonna be cool, and I think we're at the iPhone level revolution
• 52:08
  again in the terms of AR or what they call XR, right, it's
• 52:13
  VRAR mixed reality environments. I think we're at that step where Apple has made
• 52:19
  the jump ahead of everybody else again and other people are gonna have to catch
• 52:22
  up. I'm just wondering, when are we going to find the first bone
• 52:24
  head that puts it on while they're driving or Oh yeah, I mean it's
• 52:30
  we're Yeah, we're in the age of reaction videos and people doing dumb stuff
• 52:37
  on the internet, right, Yeah, one hundred percent, somebody's going to
• 52:38
  be doing that, right, because how long did it take for somebody to
• 52:40
  post a video of them in the passengers seat of their Tesla whiles driving down
• 52:44
  the freeway? Right? Yeah, five minutes after they left the parking lot.
• 52:46
  So of course you're gonna see it. Could it not be used for
• 52:50
  better driving? I mean, we know that Camaros and some other vehicles have
• 52:52
  the heads up display where basically you have your speed, you have you know
• 52:58
  you're gearing. All of that display, your fuel can be displayed on the
• 53:01
  windshield while you're driving down the road. Could this maybe make it a safer
• 53:07
  experience? I think it's safe to say that this is a disclaimer. You
• 53:10
  should not use this wire driving there you go, or flying or doing anything.
• 53:15
  No. No, I think well if if you're if you're actually piloting
• 53:19
  the plane, I think this is going to be incredible for long trips.
• 53:22
  They didn't say specifically you'd be able to do this, right, but could
• 53:25
  you pair this with AirPods? Could you have your air pods in to listen
• 53:30
  to the audio or does it have to use the spatial audio headphones? Because
• 53:35
  if I'm sitting next to somebody and they have a vision on, you know,
• 53:38
  if I'm sitting next to somebody with my VR headset on, they can
• 53:42
  hear the audio coming out of my speakers, right, It's not a over
• 53:44
  the ear enclosed system right, right? So can I pair this with my
• 53:49
  AirPods so that I can listen to it silently? That is a good question,
• 53:53
  right, because it doesn't cover the ears? Yea, yeah, so,
• 53:57
  but it's you know, it's the whole spatial three D audio thing with
• 54:00
  the six six speakers designed around the band and all that stuff. Right,
• 54:05
  So if I want to do a silent listening mode or privacy mode, what
• 54:09
  does that look like in terms of I put in earbuds. They showed somebody
• 54:14
  in the demo of them sitting on an airplane putting it on the vision mode
• 54:17
  and surrounding themselves with the environment. Right, But what does the audio solution
• 54:21
  look like that? Right? Because if if I'm playing a movie at full
• 54:23
  blast because I like listening to my movies loud, is that gonna how is
• 54:28
  that going to interact with the environment? Yeah, some good thoughts. We're
• 54:30
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• 54:34
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• 54:37
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• 54:40
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• 54:45
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