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Jaguars Happy Hour | Weight on Defense, Team Building Chemistry and Grading Offensive Workouts · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday. It's OTA Week number two. We've got
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Speaker 2: Finders Homes, the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. OTAs continue,
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Speaker 2: we'll figure out ways to grade the offseason work. Curious
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Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman's grading system when he's watching OTA's We'll get
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Speaker 2: to that here in a little bit, and then weighing
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Speaker 2: there quotes options on defense. That was a conversation earlier
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Speaker 2: in the week. Guys look a little more trim than
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Speaker 2: a season ago, especially on the defensive line. We're on
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Speaker 3: J P.
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Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. Good afternoon, Jeff afternoon, JP. What's man?
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Speaker 2: All good man? All good? Excited, uh, exciting time of year.
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Speaker 2: Mini camp just around the corner. Ota is in full swing.
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Speaker 2: Two more weeks before we hit the dead zone here
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Speaker 2: coming out of the dead zone. Nothing wrong with it.
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Speaker 2: I think an interesting thing that you bring up there
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Speaker 2: about grading the off season, Yeah, right, because this is
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Speaker 2: the time of year in which everybody's getting a's.
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Speaker 4: Oh, everybody looks great, great shape, They're having the best
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Speaker 4: offseason they've ever had on it in the chemistry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting stronger, bigger, faster, Yeah, the commitment prin mode
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Speaker 2: never ends. Yeah, it's uh, you know the old the
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Speaker 2: old saying is is that, uh, sometimes you just got
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Speaker 2: to wait and see until somebody gets hit in the
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Speaker 2: mouth to really see what they are and what they're
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Speaker 2: gonna be. True, right, very true. So I'm excited for
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Speaker 2: this football team. I'm excited with some of the changes
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Speaker 2: that they've made. But I think there's also a part
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Speaker 2: of me that says, I'm not giving a grade out
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Speaker 2: until this football team can give a grade itself, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean, because the ultimate grade is what wins and losses.
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Speaker 2: It's past fail in the NFL, that's all it is. Well,
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Speaker 2: you could great training camp if you make the team
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Speaker 2: or not. Oh, absolutely, And I think that that also
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Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with some of the things that they're
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Speaker 2: doing now. And and I don't know if this is
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Speaker 2: going to help them win football games or not. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: what do you got. But they're having this contest and
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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm allowed to even talk
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Speaker 2: about this. Oh well, here we go. We're going to
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Speaker 2: talk about to find out. They're having this kind of
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Speaker 2: cool contest where they have teams on the team and
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Speaker 2: they're competing in different events. It's kind of like a
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Speaker 2: team building thing, right, And so they say weight room
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Speaker 2: stuff is this, well, well some of its weight room stuff,
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Speaker 2: some of it is is different. They come up with
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Speaker 2: different competitions to have, so in other words, you have
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Speaker 2: like these teams that are made up of different players.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think they had like a draft or
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Speaker 2: we were able to select players. So you have you know,
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Speaker 2: eight or nine or ten man teams, whatever it is,
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Speaker 2: and each team competes in these different events that they
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Speaker 2: have kind of on a weekly basis. And when I
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Speaker 2: saw it, I was like, that really reminds me of
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Speaker 2: the team building exercise that Pete Carroll came up with
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Speaker 2: way back in the day when I was with the Jets,
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Speaker 2: and it was fun stuff. And the stuff that we
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Speaker 2: did was in training camp, but because of OTAs now
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Speaker 2: becomes so prevalent. Now it's a great opportunity to do
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Speaker 2: it throughout thet s. And then at the end of
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Speaker 2: the road there's going to be a prize. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to say what the prize is going to be.
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Speaker 2: I'll let them talk about that at some point. But
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Speaker 2: it's cool watching these players pull together with their own
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Speaker 2: team to have camaraderie with the competition and then to
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Speaker 2: push each other kind of along the way, because competition
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Speaker 2: is the greatest motivator that there is in the off season,
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Speaker 2: and you can tell that this team is creating a
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Speaker 2: lot of bonds that wouldn't normally be there if you
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Speaker 2: didn't have these kind of things. Today was a medball competition, wow,
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Speaker 2: where they were doing like a relay race, throwing the
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Speaker 2: medball to eat to their teammates. I'm pretty good at
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Speaker 2: that down and back and then you know, the winner
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Speaker 2: obviously wins. And then there was a med ball throwing
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Speaker 2: contest over the goalpost inside the Miller Electric Center, and
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Speaker 2: of course the big guys were doing pretty well with that.
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Speaker 2: And then there was a kind of a med ball
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Speaker 2: throwing contest where you throw it and then once it
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Speaker 2: stops rolling, you pick it up and throw it again.
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Speaker 2: The first one down and back of the field wins.
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Speaker 2: It's just cool stuff, and I'm excited to see that
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Speaker 2: they're having these kind of things because it brings everybody.
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Speaker 4: Closer and it breaks up the monotony of the offseason programs.
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Speaker 4: Not just meetings for a number of hours and then
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Speaker 4: on the field for an hour and a half and
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Speaker 4: go home. It's like you need something to kind of
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Speaker 4: keep well, keep motivating, and I think they're pro players.
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Speaker 4: You should be motivated anyway. It's a voluntary period. Let's
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Speaker 4: get some team chemistry going.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: You spend a lot of time building chemistry within the rooms. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know, defensive line, right, Okay, we're all hanging out together,
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Speaker 2: you know, and doing our thing and working out together,
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Speaker 2: lifting together, practicing together, meeting together. But hey, look, I
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Speaker 2: don't spend a whole lot of time with a running
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Speaker 2: back or a wide receiver. And these teams that they
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Speaker 2: have are diverse, you know, across the position groups, and
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Speaker 2: it's a great opportunity to to I think, create a
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Speaker 2: bond with other guys on the team that maybe you
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Speaker 2: wouldn't ordinarily have and from what I understand, it was
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Speaker 2: an idea by the strength coach, the new strength coach
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Speaker 2: that they have, and kudos to him because you can
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Speaker 2: really tell that the players are embracing it. Got an
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Speaker 2: opportunity to watch it today again. You know who has
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Speaker 2: a step ahead in working with different position groups. Travis
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Speaker 2: Hutter wide receiver and defensive back and Liam Cohen after
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Speaker 2: practice earlier this week explaining that yes, it's going and
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Speaker 2: it's going pretty well.
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Speaker 5: He is still learning. He's been learning a ton defensively
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Speaker 5: and offensively as we know, you know, but that was
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Speaker 5: more so fundamentals techniques. It wasn't a ton of eleven
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Speaker 5: on eleven seven on. It was more fundamentals techniques communication.
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Speaker 5: That was what that kind of last Wednesday was. And
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Speaker 5: he's been learning with those guys and meet with him
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Speaker 5: extra as he's needed to.
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Speaker 4: Said coach Liam Cohen talking about the defensive work one
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Speaker 4: day last week on the field, but he's been in
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Speaker 4: both meeting rooms throughout each day and getting a full
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Speaker 4: dose of Jaguar football on both sides.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if I had to put like a percentage
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Speaker 2: on what amount of work that he would have to
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Speaker 2: have with the offense versus what he would have to
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Speaker 2: have as a defensive player to get ready to be
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Speaker 2: a true two way player. It definitely has to lean
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Speaker 2: more towards offense because defense a lot of times is
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of technique, but the timing, the consistency,
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Speaker 2: the working to develop that chemistry with your quarterback. It
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Speaker 2: just takes a little bit more time on that side
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Speaker 2: of the ball, whereas defense a lot of times as
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Speaker 2: being an athlete and reacting in the zone concept, right,
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Speaker 2: you're just breaking on a ball. If I had to
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Speaker 2: put a percentage on it, I would say sixty five.
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Speaker 2: Thirty five I think is probably where that number would
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Speaker 2: be at. Maybe, you know, maybe a little bit less
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Speaker 2: than sixty five, but not much. It makes sense to
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Speaker 2: build it on offense too. I mean that you got
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Speaker 2: to score points in this league. You got a quarterback
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Speaker 2: who's got a massive contract, another receiver on the other
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Speaker 2: side who had a great rookie year, and uh yeah,
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Speaker 2: you got to build up that offensive side of the
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Speaker 2: defense come along well. And also he hasn't signed his
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Speaker 2: contract yet. You know, I think that that's obviously on
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Speaker 2: the horizon, there's a I don't think there's a whole
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Speaker 2: lot of difficulty to figuring that out because essentially you
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Speaker 2: have a slotted system for the rookies, you know. But
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Speaker 2: I just kind of wonder, I mean, with a with
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Speaker 2: a player that's gonna play two ways, does that does
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Speaker 2: that throw anything kind of into the mix? You know
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Speaker 2: what I mean? Does that change the concept or the
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Speaker 2: position of an agent? There's no wiggle room from the
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Speaker 2: CBA standpoint. Yeah, what does it come down to, let's
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Speaker 2: say fifth year option? Right? Is it wide receiver?
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Speaker 4: Depends on what snaps he's playing, Right, If he's playing
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Speaker 4: more snaps at the corner, then he might get the
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Speaker 4: corner number the receiver.
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Speaker 2: Well, the agent's always going to argue that it's the
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Speaker 2: higher number of the two. Yeah, it doesn't matter what
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Speaker 2: the split is. Yeah, if he's doing his job anyway.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the same thing when it comes to a
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Speaker 4: second contract, if we get that far, you hope the
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Speaker 4: wide receiver contract.
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Speaker 2: Or is he going to get a cournerback different or
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Speaker 2: is he going to get a contract that essentially represents
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Speaker 2: that he's playing two positions and his contribution is from
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Speaker 2: two positions. I mean, if that's the case. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you're talking quarterback money or more right. I mean, if
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Speaker 2: if you've got a guy who is uh and obviously
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Speaker 2: we're getting way, you have to break, you can we
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Speaker 2: play a game play. But I mean it's just fun
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Speaker 2: to talk about the possibilities. I mean because it at
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Speaker 2: some point you could be looking at a player that
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Speaker 2: agent would have a viable position to say that, looker,
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Speaker 2: you've got a player that can play. He's playing two positions.
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Speaker 2: He's playing him at a high level. So you can't
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Speaker 2: look at him as a single person getting paid. You
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Speaker 2: have to pay him as two. But that's down the road.
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Speaker 2: He wants you to be his agent, That's what it
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Speaker 2: sounds like to me. If you're talking that way, well,
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Speaker 2: I think you probably want to be his agent too.
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Speaker 2: With that, can you can you imagine yeah, three percent
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Speaker 2: of sixty million a year? I mean, I mean that's
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Speaker 2: the quarterback rate now, right, sixty million, right. I think
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Speaker 2: the agent's fees are anywhere. I think the cap. We
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Speaker 2: put a cap on the agents fees a few years back.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember what the number was, but I mean
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Speaker 2: years ago, when I was a vice president of the union,
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Speaker 2: we we instituted a cap because we had we actually
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Speaker 2: had some guys that were getting charged ridiculous amounts like ten. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: like there was no there was no you know, guidelines
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Speaker 2: for the agents, you know, going back and we finally
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Speaker 2: put a cap. I was, you know, I was one
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Speaker 2: of the ones that was fighting for because I was like, look,
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Speaker 2: we can't have guys that don't know any better. All
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Speaker 2: of a sudden they signed a contract agreement with an
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Speaker 2: agent and he's getting charged seven or eight percent, you know,
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Speaker 2: because a lot of agents, you know, after the fact
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Speaker 2: that we put that in there, we're trying to say, wow,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm getting five I think it was five percent.
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Speaker 2: Five percent is what I'm getting as an agent, But
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Speaker 2: then I'm getting another three percent from a marketing stand. Pop.
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Speaker 2: I see, Okay, they combined the Yeah, after we put
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Speaker 2: the rules in place, but we shut that down. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it makes sense. We're on x now, Jaguars dot Com,
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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube, Jaguars Happy Hours ap Shadwick with Jeff Flogoman
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Speaker 2: and then the other side of the offense. Brian Thomas
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Speaker 2: Junior still looks good man, Yeah, but is he not?
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Speaker 2: Has he not become an afterthought? I mean a little right,
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Speaker 2: but not for long. I don't think when he gets
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Speaker 2: real he won't be well. And he's and he's not obviously,
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Speaker 2: I don't think in anybody's mind, but just the conversation
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Speaker 2: with most teams of a rookie receiver having the year
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Speaker 2: that he just had, he would be almost the focal point.
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Speaker 2: And with the new staff, new front office, new uh players,
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Speaker 2: a little bit forgotten, kind of in the mix, but
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Speaker 2: not forgotten in my mind, because I think he's an
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Speaker 2: outstanding player and I can't wait to see what year
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Speaker 2: two brings. And I'm really excited that year one happened
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Speaker 2: the way it did because I think if you didn't
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Speaker 2: have all that happened last year, with the injuries to
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Speaker 2: the other wide receivers, to Gabe and and oh Christian Kirk,
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Speaker 2: thank you, if you didn't have those injuries to those guys,
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Speaker 2: could you really truly have discovered how versatile that Brian
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Speaker 2: Thomas Junior can be and what all that he can do.
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Speaker 2: Because I think the the original thinking was is that
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Speaker 2: he was kind of be he was going to be
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Speaker 2: kind of wide receiver three, and by the end of
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Speaker 2: the year he was like wide receiver number one. Star
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Speaker 2: Star Stars easy and number two. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 4: The other one that has d shown so far that
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Speaker 4: he is in a good place is the Ammy Brown
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Speaker 4: free agent addition, Liam him the other day about his
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Speaker 4: speed fast.
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Speaker 2: Did you have you looked at his college numbers? Pull
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Speaker 2: his college numbers up? It's a long time ago. Now,
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Speaker 2: well it's a long time ago. But I mean, if
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Speaker 2: you want kind of an indication of where the belief
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Speaker 2: is in Damie Brown, then you know a lot of times,
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Speaker 2: what personnel people do in the league is they have
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Speaker 2: a they have a college scouting report and then they
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Speaker 2: kind of have an updated professional scouting report. And when
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Speaker 2: certain players get the free agency for the first time,
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Speaker 2: they go back to their college scouting evaluation to kind
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Speaker 2: of get an idea of what the opinion was on
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Speaker 2: him coming out. And then they also look at it
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Speaker 2: from what's happened in the recent past, because look JP
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Speaker 2: a lot of times for example in Washington prior to
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Speaker 2: this year, who was playing quarterback for the Commanders, what
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Speaker 2: any consistency right rotation? Well then you have a rookie.
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Speaker 2: So a lot of times when you have a situation
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Speaker 2: like that where the ball getting delivered on time and
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Speaker 2: accurately is not happening. You again, go back to that
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Speaker 2: college resume to take a look, and what do the
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Speaker 2: numbers say at its pro to a U and C
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Speaker 2: four point four four forty smoking fat vertical jump of
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Speaker 2: thirty five and a half. Okay, so to jump tonight,
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Speaker 2: give me some college numbers receiving yards, yards per catch,
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Speaker 2: the yards per catch you're gonna look at and go wow, Okay,
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Speaker 2: that gives me an idea of what this guy can be.
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Speaker 4: Oh dear, twenty eighteen was young, didn't play much, hundred
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Speaker 4: and seventy three yards touchdown. Next year twenty nineteen, fifty
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Speaker 4: one catches one thousand and thirty four yards, twelve touchdowns,
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Speaker 4: a twenty point three twenty point three The next season,
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, the shortened COVID year of the ACC one
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Speaker 4: thousand ninety nine yards not in the ACC they played
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Speaker 4: full but one thousand ninety nine yar yards and eight
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Speaker 4: touchdowns with a twenty yard average.
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Speaker 2: So back to back twenty yard average, that's what I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about, Okay, I think I think that that's you know,
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Speaker 2: and it is. Compare that to his pro numbers. What
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Speaker 2: did the average a catch as a pro with the department.
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Speaker 2: You're trying to make a play. I think again, you're
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Speaker 2: going back to what can this guy do for this
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Speaker 2: football team. What's he capable of? Because you don't want
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Speaker 2: to just look at the numbers of what he did
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Speaker 2: in Washington, but you want to go back and see
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Speaker 2: what kind of numbers that he was doing in college
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Speaker 2: versus what he was doing in Washington to what he
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Speaker 2: could do maybe here. I mean he was underutilized in Washington.
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Speaker 2: I mean he only play yards per catch. I mean
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Speaker 2: thirteen point three for his career. Yeah, that's my four years.
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Speaker 4: And I mean he had one season where he had
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Speaker 4: twelve catches, another with five, another with twelve, and then
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Speaker 4: thirty last year and only three hundred yards like so.
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Speaker 2: Which which my point is in this and then I
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Speaker 2: think Diamie Brown can be a dynamic addition to this
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Speaker 2: wider group from the standpoint of here, here's a guy
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Speaker 2: that can go vertical. Brian Thomas Junior we know can
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Speaker 2: go vertical. Travis Hunter, we know he's got great speed,
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Speaker 2: great hands, the ability to make contested catches. You know.
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have three legitimate guys that can run
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Speaker 2: deep most of the time when you're facing, or if
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Speaker 2: you looked at this team in the past, let's say
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Speaker 2: the Doug Peterson era, who is the deep ball guy?
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Speaker 2: Did you really have one? You really never have one? Right,
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Speaker 2: So you went from now all of a sudden to
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Speaker 2: having maybe one last year with Brian. Now you got
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Speaker 2: three two quarterback. I'm sitting there going, oh yeah, oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: of that tough guy. Let's go.
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Speaker 4: Let's come back in a moment, and we will see
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Speaker 4: how you evaluate practice lives, what you've been seeing the
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Speaker 4: last week, that organized team activities.
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Speaker 2: I'm even tracking stats and doing that whole view right
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Speaker 2: under our evaluation. That's what you do, man.
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Speaker 3: I can do it.
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Speaker 2: I can do it. We're back in a moment. It's
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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour. You're welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hours.
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Speaker 2: AP Shadwick, Jeff Lager when he was starting to discuss
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Speaker 2: the pass rushers of the Jeig Wars, Josh Heines, Allen
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Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker, Emmanuel Ogba in the group now as well,
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Speaker 2: who who's that last guy you mentioned that in Miami
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Speaker 2: with him forty something sacks in his career. I gotta say,
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Speaker 2: just going back to last year, well, I mean, what
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Speaker 2: what a gross mismanagement of the defensive line room. There
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Speaker 2: was last year. Yeah, in a lot of ways.
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Speaker 4: At what point, and I get it, We're it's the
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Speaker 4: off season, we're talking through it. Still, at what point
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Speaker 4: do we put that in the review trading camp?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when they Yeah, I mean it's when they
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Speaker 2: move forward. Well, I mean I kind of have it
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Speaker 2: in the review, but I mean I bring it up
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Speaker 2: just still. Well, I mean it's all part of relevant.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you at Jaguars dot com, Eric Armsteen's
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Speaker 2: listed as a defensive tackle. Yeah. If you look at
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Speaker 2: a lot of other guys that are defensive linemen, what
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Speaker 2: is their designation? Yeah, yeah, there are some that say
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Speaker 2: d L defensive line right now. There are some that
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Speaker 2: are specifically defensive end, and there are some that are
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Speaker 2: specifically defensive tackle, but there are many that are defensive line.
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Speaker 4: Joshing Trayvon Walker, Miles Cole are the defensive ends. Three
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Speaker 4: of them defensive tackles, Devon Hamilton, Eric Armstead, Tyler Lacy
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Speaker 4: Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson defensive lineman DL listings Eli Moster,
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Speaker 4: Emmanuel Ogba listed as a d line Danny Strigo, bj
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Speaker 4: Green the second rookie out of Colorado, Ethan Downs say
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Speaker 4: rookie out of Oklahoma, and Kivy Rowe was a rookie
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Speaker 4: out of Arkansas, and James Carpenter a rookie out of Indiana.
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Speaker 2: Those are the d linemen kind of interesting, right, I
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Speaker 2: mean last year there was that whole kind of debate,
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Speaker 2: where's Eric Armstead at? Where should he be at? Why
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Speaker 2: is he not playing inside? More? They're not getting any
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Speaker 2: pressure inside?
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Speaker 4: And there were two different stories, right, It was like, oh,
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Speaker 4: he wanted to part of the deal is that he's
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Speaker 4: gonna play outside.
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Speaker 2: That's what we heard earlier the season. At the end
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Speaker 2: of the season, I'm in the locker room. He said no,
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Speaker 2: And I asked him.
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Speaker 4: I asked him a question like are you better inside
19:32
Speaker 4: or outside? He said, ah, I wanted to play inside.
19:34
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back inside. Okay, I mean so, he said,
19:38
Speaker 4: she said.
19:40
Speaker 2: And was playing twenty five twenty twenty five snaps a game. Yeah,
19:46
Speaker 2: And as a free agent, I mean, it was just
19:48
Speaker 2: it was very so when I to go back to
19:51
Speaker 2: my original statement, the mismanagement of that room. You had
19:56
Speaker 2: a lot of defensive tackles and then essentially the third
19:59
Speaker 2: best defensive end. You traded away to Seattle's right, Yeah,
20:03
Speaker 2: before this regular season even began, and you kept a
20:08
Speaker 2: lot of these defensive tackles and a lot of them
20:12
Speaker 2: were basically of the same mold, and it didn't work
20:16
Speaker 2: out very well. And the management, I think on game
20:19
Speaker 2: day wasn't even better from a coaching standpoint. So, yeah,
20:24
Speaker 2: very interesting in the year. Last year, that's one of
20:26
Speaker 2: the most interesting years from a defensive standpoint that I
20:29
Speaker 2: have ever seen in Jaguars history. Don't want to see
20:32
Speaker 2: it again. It was interesting, but it was awful, awfully interesting, awful, brutal.
20:37
Speaker 1: It was.
20:40
Speaker 2: On pace to be like the worst defense in Jaguars history,
20:45
Speaker 2: and you could make the argument that it was, but
20:48
Speaker 2: the talent was nowhere near that. I mean, I've seen
20:55
Speaker 2: bad defenses with bad personnel. That defense last year wasn't
20:59
Speaker 2: that I had a personnel to be that bad.
21:01
Speaker 4: Now let's get to maybe some of the reason behind that.
21:05
Speaker 4: And we talked about weighing air quotes the option on defense.
21:11
Speaker 2: Moving ahead, well, it looks like Devin Lloyd's trimmed up some.
21:14
Speaker 2: It looks like Josh Haines Allen who's trimmed a little
21:17
Speaker 2: bit away Trayvon Walker said he's only lost three pounds,
21:20
Speaker 2: but his body feels the composition might feel a little different.
21:23
Speaker 2: He hasn't done a test yet. They were playing pretty
21:26
Speaker 2: heavy last year. Well, I think they were trying to
21:28
Speaker 2: be the number one get off the bus club in
21:31
Speaker 2: the National Football League. You know that when they all
21:34
Speaker 2: look big and then all of a sudden, wait a minute, well,
21:37
Speaker 2: how effective it? Does bigger mean more effective? No, not necessarily.
21:43
Speaker 2: I remember, just from a personal standpoint, I was never
21:47
Speaker 2: better when I was heavier or at my heaviest. When
21:51
Speaker 2: were you at your heaviest. You think I'm about two
21:53
Speaker 2: seventy two here Jacksonville here, you know, But I think
21:57
Speaker 2: I played my best when I was around sixty five.
22:00
Speaker 2: Sixty seven was a little too much, And a lot
22:02
Speaker 2: of people say, wow, it's only five pounds. Well, five
22:05
Speaker 2: pounds can make a big difference. And Devin Lloyd last
22:08
Speaker 2: year was like two fifty. He doesn't look anywhere close
22:15
Speaker 2: to two fifty right now. No, he does not. Actually
22:18
Speaker 2: he looks two thirty three fourth somewhere in that range,
22:24
Speaker 2: which would be good for him. I mean he's got
22:26
Speaker 2: to move, you know, you got to move to play linebacker.
22:28
Speaker 2: This defense is going to be a defense that plays fast,
22:32
Speaker 2: and I mean, obviously a huge year for him. No
22:34
Speaker 2: fifth year option, finally year of his rookie deal. Look,
22:37
Speaker 2: when you don't get the fifth year option, that's telling
22:39
Speaker 2: you something, right. But I'm excited about Campanelli because you
22:44
Speaker 2: know what if you if you go back and you
22:46
Speaker 2: look at every team that the Jaguars played last year,
22:51
Speaker 2: I remember raving about Green Bays defense in particular, not
22:56
Speaker 2: so much Jordan Love, but their defense because they just
22:59
Speaker 2: didn't make any mistakes. They were always in sync, they
23:04
Speaker 2: were communicating at the pre snap to the play once
23:09
Speaker 2: it got snapped, and they always seemed to be in
23:12
Speaker 2: position to make plays, which was the entire exact opposite
23:15
Speaker 2: for the Jaguars defense. More mental airs than anybody in
23:19
Speaker 2: the National Football League last year, more explosives allowed in
23:23
Speaker 2: the National Football League than anybody last year, and largely
23:26
Speaker 2: due to the fact that they were having mental errors.
23:29
Speaker 2: So excited about Anthony Campanilly's presence with this defense. To
23:35
Speaker 2: get it all back to be in a disciplined state,
23:39
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Speaker 2: Who else can I Paul Frase a name from the past.
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24:52
Speaker 2: in Birmingham has a brother on the defensive line. Williams,
24:56
Speaker 2: Quincy Williams, Yes, Quincy see Williams. Good football player there
25:01
Speaker 2: for the Jets. What happened there? You've probably not enough
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Speaker 2: patience for him to and uh, you know, there's a
25:11
Speaker 2: very defined role for Quincy that allows him to be
25:14
Speaker 2: at his best and the Jets, I think have done
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Speaker 2: a really good job of putting him in that position.
25:21
Speaker 2: And then it just the maturity too. Got to give
25:23
Speaker 2: him a little credit for that. Let's come back in
25:26
Speaker 2: a moment. We will see how you watch practice? Curious
25:30
Speaker 2: about this? What do you watch this time? Everything? All
25:34
Speaker 2: the time? Everything? Okay, don't don't kill the tea. We're
25:39
Speaker 2: back in the I'll give you one little teaser. I'm
25:42
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna give you one opportunity when we come back.
25:45
Speaker 2: I want you to guess what's the first thing that
25:48
Speaker 2: I look at and when I walk out to practice
25:51
Speaker 2: this year.
25:53
Speaker 4: Back in a moment plenty ahead, it is Jaguars Happy Hour.
26:09
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna use it as excuse, but I mean
26:11
Speaker 3: it definitely played a little I felt like I played
26:13
Speaker 3: a little bit of toll on me close to the
26:15
Speaker 3: end of the season as we kind of got on
26:17
Speaker 3: but it had its pros and its constant.
26:20
Speaker 4: Trewan Walker after practice a couple of days ago, discussing
26:24
Speaker 4: that extra weight from a season ago. Welcome back to
26:27
Speaker 4: Shaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatterick with Jeff Lockerman, who left us.
26:33
Speaker 2: With a question before the timeout, I did, what was
26:36
Speaker 2: that question? Is JP? This year the new year under
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Speaker 2: Liam Combe, James Gladstone, Tony BISSELLI When I walk out
26:46
Speaker 2: to practice, what's the first thing that I look for?
26:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a A I could guess a
26:52
Speaker 2: number of different ways here. Clearly there's ninety one guys
26:54
Speaker 2: out there right now, coaches and things. I would guess
27:01
Speaker 2: a couple of things. Okay, no, you get one. Get one.
27:04
Speaker 2: Just give me one and I'll say, yeah, your name,
27:05
Speaker 2: and then we'll go to the next I'll go to
27:06
Speaker 2: the next one. I think you look for who the
27:09
Speaker 2: first player out there is? Okay? Is that right? No?
27:13
Speaker 2: I think you look for where the gatorade cooler is.
27:16
Speaker 2: That's a close second and third? Wow? Yeah? Second or third? Yeah,
27:21
Speaker 2: but but not number one. I think you let me
27:25
Speaker 2: know when you're ready for a hint. Yeah, I'm ready, Okay.
27:27
Speaker 2: I think colors teal and white teal and white? What
27:35
Speaker 2: is hunter? There? You go, well about black and white? Huh,
27:40
Speaker 2: they're not wearing teal? Are they? Are? They? They will?
27:43
Speaker 2: They wear teal or white white? On defense? There you go, Okay,
27:47
Speaker 2: they do wear teal? Yeah, I guess they did. So
27:48
Speaker 2: it's the first thing. I mean, it's it's kind of crazy,
27:51
Speaker 2: but I mean's gonna be my first guess. But it's
27:53
Speaker 2: too easy.
27:54
Speaker 3: It is too easy.
27:55
Speaker 2: Come on, man, everybody's looking at that. I mean, but
27:58
Speaker 2: it's a it's amazing, right, I mean, when's the last
28:01
Speaker 2: time you ever went out to a practice and you
28:04
Speaker 2: were looking to see what position a guy was going
28:06
Speaker 2: to line up at. I mean, it's and I remember
28:08
Speaker 2: I walked out there today and I caught myself because,
28:11
Speaker 2: I mean, the first thing I look for is he
28:13
Speaker 2: wearing white? Is he wearing teal? I said to myself,
28:18
Speaker 2: I've never done that. I've never done that, And all
28:24
Speaker 2: of my time in the National Football League, I've never
28:27
Speaker 2: walked out to a practice to see was a guy
28:30
Speaker 2: wearing an offensive color jersey or a defensive color jersey.
28:35
Speaker 2: It is pretty cool question for you.
28:37
Speaker 4: When it comes to practice time in the regular season,
28:40
Speaker 4: he'll just wear one jersey and switch sides of the
28:42
Speaker 4: field during the week of practice.
28:44
Speaker 2: Right, No, he's got a change from you. Yeah, you
28:48
Speaker 2: have to. You have to. You can't have a guy
28:51
Speaker 2: who's wearing a teal color jersey and the offense is
28:53
Speaker 2: in teal and he's playing defense. I mean sure, but
28:57
Speaker 2: is he just created a little confusion? Would throw them
29:00
Speaker 2: the ball death pads on? He's got to change, Yeah, yeah,
29:04
Speaker 2: I mean what they would. My guess is they'll probably
29:06
Speaker 2: have one of those pullover things, ah, like a tear
29:09
Speaker 2: a little like velcrow that's like a sleeveless pullover jersey
29:14
Speaker 2: that they can take on and off like they do
29:15
Speaker 2: with special teams when they put on like a red
29:19
Speaker 2: jersey or red caps on the helmet. You know, they
29:21
Speaker 2: could probably do something like that. See that busy time
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30:13
Speaker 4: So you mentioned the first thing you see when do
30:15
Speaker 4: you go out? The first thing I look for it
30:17
Speaker 4: look for is Travis Hunter.
30:18
Speaker 2: What's he wearing? After that?
30:20
Speaker 4: Give us a like a synopsis of a regular OTA practice.
30:23
Speaker 4: When you're out there, which side.
30:25
Speaker 2: Are you on? Are you moving around? Like? What's what
30:28
Speaker 2: stands out to you the most when you're out there? Well?
30:30
Speaker 2: I move around. My eyes move around a lot. My
30:33
Speaker 2: body doesn't move around a ton. I wonder why. But
30:38
Speaker 2: you know, here's the thing about this time of year.
30:42
Speaker 2: You can't really get any kind of gauge on the
30:44
Speaker 2: big guys. That's right, So there's not a lot of
30:48
Speaker 2: evaluation other than okay, maybe a new guy. You just
30:52
Speaker 2: want to see his body, see how he moves, because
30:55
Speaker 2: you know, as a play by play guy, which you
30:58
Speaker 2: have been color analyst, you want to see how body
31:02
Speaker 2: types move so that you can identify that person on
31:05
Speaker 2: the field without actually having to see the jersey number correct,
31:09
Speaker 2: What do they look like, how do they move? So
31:13
Speaker 2: you look at that's from that standpoint, But the seven
31:16
Speaker 2: on seven guys is what you're watching this time of year.
31:20
Speaker 2: Whi's the seven on seven for people that don't know,
31:22
Speaker 2: and a practice you have different periods. Seven on seven
31:27
Speaker 2: is essentially the seven skill position on offense versus the
31:33
Speaker 2: seven guys that can be dropping in a coverage on defense. Linebackers,
31:36
Speaker 2: defensive backs versus tight ends, wide receivers, running back, quarterback.
31:41
Speaker 2: So you're watching those guys. You're looking for timing, you're
31:44
Speaker 2: looking for the effort, the finish, the hustle. You look
31:49
Speaker 2: at all of it. And you also in practice you're
31:53
Speaker 2: looking at in the individual period, who's getting to the
31:57
Speaker 2: front of the line, who leads by example, who's walking
32:02
Speaker 2: off the field, how to coaches communicate to the players,
32:06
Speaker 2: what players are having eye contact, which players are talking
32:12
Speaker 2: ball on the sideline. I mean, So there's a lot
32:14
Speaker 2: of things that you look at, but it's for the
32:16
Speaker 2: most part. It's that seven on seven group, which a
32:20
Speaker 2: lot of people would make the argument that the big guys,
32:24
Speaker 2: the old nine on seven period is what you want
32:27
Speaker 2: to watch to determine how good of a football team
32:30
Speaker 2: it can be. Watch. Yeah, you can't watch that until
32:33
Speaker 2: they get pads on. Not doing that right now, that's
32:35
Speaker 2: a limited opportunity. Even when they get pads on. There
32:39
Speaker 2: you go, that's what you watch for. But you go
32:41
Speaker 2: back and watch film too, or no this time of year. No, Now,
32:44
Speaker 2: I'll watch film on some of the guys that they
32:46
Speaker 2: sign in free agency, now, you know, just to kind
32:49
Speaker 2: of get a gauge. And I've watched some of the
32:52
Speaker 2: undrafted rookies, you know, watch some of their fan like
32:54
Speaker 2: Danny Stregaw. I watched him to see what kind of
32:57
Speaker 2: a player he is, just to give you a little
33:00
Speaker 2: bit of a baseline. And then also when you go
33:03
Speaker 2: talk to a guy, when you talk to guys, if
33:06
Speaker 2: you actually have watched him and you understand the components
33:11
Speaker 2: of his game a little bit, it makes for a
33:12
Speaker 2: little bit better conversation because they know that you're you're
33:16
Speaker 2: paying attention, that's right, And you don't want to start
33:19
Speaker 2: talking to a guy and you don't have a clue
33:21
Speaker 2: of where he's from, what he's done, what he's like.
33:25
Speaker 2: And even guys like in free agency, I mean you
33:27
Speaker 2: read their bios, you read where they come from. Perfect example,
33:32
Speaker 2: Diamie Brown. I pulled those numbers up right because I
33:35
Speaker 2: was reading about him. I wanted to know where he
33:36
Speaker 2: came from, where he's been. So I mean stuff like that,
33:41
Speaker 2: I think it gives you a little better understanding of
33:45
Speaker 2: how to paint the picture of the guys that you're watching.
33:47
Speaker 2: Here's a question for you. Could you cut the team
33:50
Speaker 2: right now? You wanted to? Absolutely too early? Nope, couldn't
33:53
Speaker 2: do it. There's a lot of guys JP this time
33:56
Speaker 2: of year look fantastic. Oh yes, and the first time
33:59
Speaker 2: that they put ads on. I'm gonna give you a story. Yeah,
34:04
Speaker 2: we give you a story. Okay. So when I was
34:07
Speaker 2: with the Jets, we had I'm gonna I'm gonna keep
34:09
Speaker 2: the names out of it. Well, come on, that's the
34:11
Speaker 2: whole point. Well, I mean they're all out of the league, right,
34:15
Speaker 2: all right? All right? Seven years old? Talking about seven years?
34:18
Speaker 2: What do you mean seven? I was eight years old
34:19
Speaker 2: we were the Jets, So I can't remember what year
34:21
Speaker 2: this was, But we drafted a guy from southern cal
34:25
Speaker 2: Baseli's school. Okay, but you make everybody's tough, eh. Okay,
34:31
Speaker 2: So we drafted a guy linebacker, and all through mini
34:35
Speaker 2: camp and then we had some semblance of OTAs, but
34:39
Speaker 2: it wasn't anything structured like it is nowadays. He look good,
34:42
Speaker 2: you know, moved well, looked the part, you know, body tight,
34:49
Speaker 2: said linebacker. And the second round pick story told you
34:55
Speaker 2: also probably a really good linebacker, right, second round pick. Sure,
35:00
Speaker 2: first day of pads rolls around training camp. Okay, if
35:02
Speaker 2: he looked good at training camp, no pads, first day
35:05
Speaker 2: of pads roll around, He comes out of the locker
35:09
Speaker 2: room with hand pads, form pads, elbow pads. And I
35:16
Speaker 2: was like, this guy like the Jack Lambert of the seventies, right,
35:23
Speaker 2: and he had all these pads on because he didn't
35:28
Speaker 2: like contact and I and I kind of like he was.
35:32
Speaker 2: He worried about getting hurt. And anyway, it was very impressive.
35:39
Speaker 2: The first day in pads. It was a guy that
35:42
Speaker 2: was not exactly one that enjoyed the contact to say that.
35:49
Speaker 2: So did they start going after him in practice because
35:51
Speaker 2: of that?
35:52
Speaker 5: Oh?
35:52
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you imagine a rookie walking out of the
35:58
Speaker 2: locker suit because where you're where? No pads? Yeah, for
36:00
Speaker 2: the start of training camp, right, And he's got nothing
36:03
Speaker 2: on his arms or anything like that, And all of
36:04
Speaker 2: sudden we put shoulder pads on. He comes out there
36:08
Speaker 2: like like the kids getting ready to be a hockey goal.
36:11
Speaker 2: And he stuffed his whole jersey with paper towels and
36:15
Speaker 2: rags so he doesn't get hurt from the puck or something. Wow,
36:19
Speaker 2: we ragged him so bad, Like, dude, what's what teammates
36:22
Speaker 2: are for?
36:23
Speaker 5: Right?
36:23
Speaker 2: What is what is all of the pads? Can you move?
36:27
Speaker 2: Can I get you a neck? Role? He's like the
36:29
Speaker 2: kid in the Christmas store the jacket? Do you got
36:32
Speaker 2: a mouthpiece? How about some shin pads? Can I get
36:34
Speaker 2: you some shin pads? Hey? You don't have any hip
36:38
Speaker 2: pads and want me to go get you some hip pads?
36:43
Speaker 2: Love that.
36:44
Speaker 4: Let's come back in just a moment. Our final thoughts.
36:46
Speaker 4: I didn't give his name. I think I have it.
36:48
Speaker 2: If you want me to start to naming name, you
36:50
Speaker 2: could probably figure that one out. I've got it right here,
36:53
Speaker 2: name it nah? No, nah, keep him naming. Okay, back
36:57
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37:01
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37:12
Speaker 5: Let's go back to the start one.
37:17
Speaker 2: You know, it's a big upside because basically went through
37:22
Speaker 2: the Hey.
37:24
Speaker 3: One of the trademarks of our leadership group is that
37:27
Speaker 3: when there's an opportunity to be bold, we won't flinch.
37:29
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know that there was much expectation
37:32
Speaker 3: as much as it was just curiosity.
37:34
Speaker 4: People will learn pretty quick once we start making legit
37:37
Speaker 4: decisions that we know.
37:39
Speaker 2: The James gang to leave and I were sitting in
37:41
Speaker 2: the draft room, maybe he says, you think about maybe making.
37:44
Speaker 5: A phone called the Cleveland regardless of how things fall,
37:47
Speaker 5: well enough in a position to be better tomorrow than
37:50
Speaker 5: the ward today.
37:51
Speaker 2: Pretty much immediately, at least in my mind, why not
37:54
Speaker 2: to night it's still good for the same kind executing it.
37:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds good.
37:58
Speaker 2: It wasn't at our mercy.
38:00
Speaker 5: There was confidence that it wouldn't be able to get
38:02
Speaker 5: done with the first.
38:05
Speaker 2: A lot of people said, well boy, you gave it
38:06
Speaker 2: a lot. My response is, did we we got the
38:09
Speaker 2: best player? Time will tell to me it was a
38:11
Speaker 2: small price to pay. Let's make history. Let's go fear
38:16
Speaker 2: of the unknown.
38:16
Speaker 3: That can be an inhibitors.
38:18
Speaker 1: Giving the tombs up on our eyes fat and it's
38:20
Speaker 1: never enjoyed.
38:20
Speaker 2: The rest of the appreciate.
38:26
Speaker 3: In the moments that I didn't take action out of
38:28
Speaker 3: fear I had looked back at and regretted.
38:31
Speaker 1: Hey, Travis is James Gladstone with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
38:34
Speaker 3: How you doing for the rest of my life when
38:36
Speaker 3: there's the opportunity for me to face fear that challenge.
38:39
Speaker 1: Because you're the one we've been hunting up.
38:42
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that that brings with it positive results.
38:46
Speaker 5: But only time will tell.
38:51
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Speaker 2: I will watch it tomorrow trust me, I won't watch
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Speaker 2: it tonight. You're kind of busy today, a little busy tonight.
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Speaker 2: But in fact, on the way in here today, I
39:45
Speaker 2: took an uber in today. Not because I was drinking
39:48
Speaker 2: heavily today, but because we're meeting the family down here
39:50
Speaker 2: today and we're all being one vehicle. Hey, no judgment.
39:54
Speaker 2: I wasn't day drinking. And I was talking to the
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Speaker 2: guy John that was my driver, had a really nice
40:00
Speaker 2: car by the way and trying to get free rides,
40:04
Speaker 2: you know, and I was telling him about this program,
40:08
Speaker 2: The Hunt, and I told him, I said, look, I said,
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Speaker 2: this is an incredible show. You need to watch it.
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Speaker 2: And he asked me immediately. Is it available on YouTube?
40:16
Speaker 2: And I said that's where it's at, so check it out.
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Speaker 2: So he said he's all fired up to watch it.
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Speaker 2: He didn't even know that something like that existed. So
40:25
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you, folks, if you love the
40:28
Speaker 2: Jaguars and you love football, you love compelling stories, watch
40:32
Speaker 2: The Hunt.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that the actual selection of Travis
40:36
Speaker 4: Hunter was less than forty minutes into the draft real time.
40:41
Speaker 4: This is forty minutes worth of content around that moment,
40:44
Speaker 4: which is pretty cool with info and behind the scenes and.
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Speaker 2: How many episodes total is it going to be? I
40:52
Speaker 2: don't know. There's so much stuff that. I mean, this
40:55
Speaker 2: whole crew over here has got stuff on the.
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Speaker 4: Floor and in the deepen the archives, and they're gonna
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Speaker 4: dig it out as we go along here.
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Speaker 2: And it's always ended kind of once the season began, right,
41:09
Speaker 2: Could it end up continuing into the season, that would
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Speaker 2: be cool? Huh hm? Interesting? I mean, are you gonna
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Speaker 2: was somebody or I'm just saying you're asking now, I
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Speaker 2: would watch it, right, Yeah, well why not? Well, I mean,
41:29
Speaker 2: as long as you're not you gotta you gotta be smart,
41:34
Speaker 2: and our our production department is smart. There are some
41:37
Speaker 2: that aren't. I was gonna say, hey, I'll leave this
41:40
Speaker 2: to you. I'm out of this one. I'm just kidding.
41:44
Speaker 2: Have a little fun there, have a little fun there,
41:48
Speaker 2: but I'm excited about the hunt. Folks, go to YouTube,
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Speaker 2: type in Jacksonville Jaguar at the Hunt, the name of
41:55
Speaker 2: the team, subscribe, check it out. Check it out, man,
41:59
Speaker 2: and don't watch too. If you haven't seen one, yeah,
42:04
Speaker 2: go back and watch one before you watch two. Good idea.
42:08
Speaker 2: They're kind of in order to ignore the ones in
42:11
Speaker 2: the past that have had previous regimes all that kind
42:14
Speaker 2: of stuff. Yeah, I mean it's it's time to move.
42:19
Speaker 2: We're looking ahead. Earlier earlier at the review, still talking
42:25
Speaker 2: about a defense. Well, you got to kind of know
42:27
Speaker 2: where you've been to understand where you're headed and why
42:32
Speaker 2: why we have uh all jumped on the direction that
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Speaker 2: this team is traveling at. Why we're all kind of
42:42
Speaker 2: on board? That's deep thoughts. What's in that coffee anyway tonight?
42:46
Speaker 2: My goodness, deep No whiskey. They didn't have that option
42:51
Speaker 2: over there at coffee station here at the mech I
42:54
Speaker 2: would say so no, so probably not, although you know
42:57
Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't mind. One of those Irish cream things
43:01
Speaker 2: in here. Wouldn't be a bad idea. It may not
43:04
Speaker 2: be a great idea before a radio show, Oh it
43:07
Speaker 2: might make it really interesting. I had a guy the
43:10
Speaker 2: last one. I had a guy. Not to name any
43:14
Speaker 2: names again, why don't you ever named names? Man? Come on,
43:17
Speaker 2: say it with your I had a guy that I
43:19
Speaker 2: worked with in the past doing one of these very
43:22
Speaker 2: shows that would come in with a coffee cup kind
43:25
Speaker 2: of like this, and it didn't necessarily have coffee in it. Hey,
43:32
Speaker 2: and by the time the show got towards the end
43:34
Speaker 2: of the first hour, sometime second hour, things got a
43:39
Speaker 2: little interesting. Uh huh, Yeah, Okay, we'll stay away from that.
43:43
Speaker 2: I think I'm not I'm not a proponent or one
43:47
Speaker 2: that likes the magic coffee. I'm okay with regular coffee.
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to ask you about the magic coffee.
43:54
Speaker 4: That's a difference. Hey, next week, oht what there's noth.
43:58
Speaker 2: One tomorrow I suppose, and then there's what four on
44:01
Speaker 2: the schedule next week, the final week of OTAs, and
44:05
Speaker 2: then the week after that three day mandatory mini camp
44:08
Speaker 2: and then it's all over. Yeah. The mini camp is
44:10
Speaker 2: really what I'm looking forward to. I expect that to
44:13
Speaker 2: be kind of pretty competitive. I mean, the OTAs that
44:16
Speaker 2: they're doing right now is it doesn't have that. Not
44:23
Speaker 2: all of them, Like today was kind of chill, but
44:26
Speaker 2: some of them are competitive. Some of them they scale
44:29
Speaker 2: it back a little bit. And the mini camp I
44:31
Speaker 2: would expect to be highly competitive. And I'm looking forward
44:35
Speaker 2: to that, which I believe the tenth, eleven, twelfth of June,
44:39
Speaker 2: looking forward to that very much. There'll be some surprise
44:42
Speaker 2: announcements coming up regarding one of those days. Okay, but
44:47
Speaker 2: we'll tease that stay tuned, stay tuned. I like that idea.
44:52
Speaker 2: Stay tuned. You don't even know what I'm talking about. Well,
44:54
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe Travis Hunter has a jersey that's half
44:56
Speaker 2: white and half teal, because that's the first thing I'm
45:01
Speaker 2: looking for. Maybe, maybe so.
45:07
Speaker 4: But the other Trevor Lawrence Ters is like that Clemson Jaguars.
45:10
Speaker 4: I think I've seen people with those. I've never seen
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Speaker 4: fifty to fifty.
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Speaker 2: Down in the middle. I'm excited to see what he's
45:16
Speaker 2: going to do this year. I'm that serious about this. Yeah, yeah,
45:19
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, because you know, here's the reality.
45:22
Speaker 2: If you look back and see what Liam Khne did
45:28
Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield, you look at and I believe the
45:33
Speaker 2: Jaguars have a very smart offensive coordinator who's very young,
45:38
Speaker 2: who is going to be a hot coaching candidate at
45:41
Speaker 2: some point, in Grant Yudinsky. You combine Liam Khne Yudinsky
45:49
Speaker 2: with Trevor, who is as hard working and as mature
45:52
Speaker 2: as any quarterback that you could have. I think that
45:56
Speaker 2: that's going to be a really strong recipe for success
46:00
Speaker 2: this year. And I'm not saying they're going to win
46:02
Speaker 2: at all or anything of that nature. I just think
46:04
Speaker 2: it's going to be really good for this football team,
46:08
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be really good for
46:09
Speaker 2: Trevor this year. And if you look at what's happening
46:13
Speaker 2: in front of him, and then also what's happening on
46:16
Speaker 2: the periphery of him, which is the talent, and then
46:19
Speaker 2: also behind him, all of those areas have been I
46:24
Speaker 2: think upgraded and made to have more competition than arguably
46:29
Speaker 2: ever before in his tenure here. A lot of it too.
46:32
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen talked about this and Trevor has talked about
46:35
Speaker 4: it this offseason, is that the work on footwork that
46:40
Speaker 4: kind of goes with the progressions in this offense, and
46:43
Speaker 4: it'll just continue to be a work in progress for him.
46:45
Speaker 2: I think, well, that's what this time of year is for.
46:49
Speaker 2: If you go back and you look at the very
46:51
Speaker 2: first ota that they had, it wasn't a great day
46:54
Speaker 2: for Trevor, you know. So part of I think acclimating
46:59
Speaker 2: to the new system is getting an understanding of what's
47:02
Speaker 2: expected and how to do it from a footwork standpoint,
47:05
Speaker 2: Because the reality is, how many times have you heard
47:08
Speaker 2: me JP saying watching film on a quarterback and saying
47:11
Speaker 2: he's got no chance because his feet ain't right. I
47:15
Speaker 2: mean with quarterbacks, if you watch their feet, you can
47:17
Speaker 2: literally a lot of times watch film, ignore where the
47:20
Speaker 2: ball is, watch the feet of the quarterback. Okay, like
47:24
Speaker 2: put a piece of paper over the screen so all
47:29
Speaker 2: you can see is to watch the feet of the quarterback.
47:33
Speaker 2: And then with I would say seventy five percent accuracy,
47:38
Speaker 2: you can say whether or not that was a successful
47:41
Speaker 2: player or not based on just watching the feet of
47:44
Speaker 2: the quarterback. And that's true. And this is the time
47:50
Speaker 2: of year where you've got to break the old habits,
47:52
Speaker 2: establish the new and essentially evolve into the offense with
48:00
Speaker 2: your whole body. And that with a quarterback. Obviously, defeat
48:04
Speaker 2: are critical. Run game will help too well. And two
48:08
Speaker 2: new running backs in that back. So it's gonna be
48:11
Speaker 2: fascinating to see how camp goes there. I can't wait
48:14
Speaker 2: to see it. Look, competition's great, man. Look in the past,
48:18
Speaker 2: that was I think a position group that had very
48:21
Speaker 2: little competition. You added Tank Bigsby. But before that you're like,
48:28
Speaker 2: did they add anybody out of consequence? No? Like last year,
48:33
Speaker 2: if you looked at the running back room, did you
48:34
Speaker 2: have any idea or any kind of curiosity about who's
48:37
Speaker 2: going to make the team at the running back spot
48:39
Speaker 2: or how the roles would be defined. Nope. How does
48:43
Speaker 2: that look this year? I mean, yeah, there's all a
48:46
Speaker 2: whole new group. You got Twoton, Alan and Jackson, Quinn, Allen, Tank, Bigsby.
48:56
Speaker 2: Who's going to get Robinson? Yeah? Who's gonna get what?
49:01
Speaker 2: I think that's the beauty of what's kind of changed
49:06
Speaker 2: with this team last year? Offensive line? Did you ever
49:09
Speaker 2: have an idea or did you ever think for a
49:12
Speaker 2: minute last year going to the training camp? You know what,
49:14
Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to start at left guard?
49:17
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, or did you know every position where
49:21
Speaker 2: it was going to be. It's tough you had an idea, right,
49:24
Speaker 2: that's right? This year, I think there's competition, legitimate competition
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Speaker 2: at I would say three positions.
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Speaker 4: We talked about renaming the positions on the defensive line.
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Speaker 4: All the offensive line are listed as OL now on
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Speaker 4: the roster. Hey, wide open, Wide Open Blogs. Will see
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Speaker 4: you in two weeks looking forward to this program.
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Speaker 2: Jeffe in two weeks during a mini camp, Yes, Jeff
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