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A Drunk Movie Review Of They Live And Its Class Rage · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: Down high and dry, I'll be moving to LA.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll be hooray!
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'll be adding to that noise.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: Get ready to move to LA or eat that trash can.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's weird.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: No one prepares you because like in this country, you know, without a job, it's for a lot of people, that's literally like life and death.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: There's no health care.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: There's no, you're just you're just fucked.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: And you you're fighting, teeth bared, fucking white knuckled, putting in these applications.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then when someone finally bites, there's no fanfare, there's no, it's just completely unceremonious.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh hey man, yeah, just get your fingerprints in and uh we'll uh we'll get you on board.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: And like that's well, I congratulated you.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, you you I got they did not, they did not.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Which which is concerning.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: Good luck.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, it's an honor for you to be employed and have people check your teeth stones and stuff.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: You're you should be thanking them.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I should be on my fucking knees right now.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the fact that I'm not has already been cause for hesitation on their part.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna report your lack of enthusiasm, enthusiasm to HR.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: He did not kiss my ass.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Beatings will continue until morale improves.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I don't know what I'm walking into, but uh but yeah, so high and dry is moving to LA.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh who knows what that'll do.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: You know what the best way to respond is just stare ahead like a porcelain doll, a man boy doll, just blankly as people talk to you.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that that's my like like Roddy Piper did.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: People talk around me, to me, through me, and I but exist.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll have some quippy one-liners, though, also, like like the Piper.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: So, hey everybody, welcome to High and Dry Podcast.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North, with me as always, James Croslin.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: We, of course, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of times when you could still buy live lobster at a Walmart.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_02: Was that they had Live Lobster at Walmart at one point?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they had the little lobster section.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: You could uh you could play Star Fox 64 from the uh the little hang the remember when they had demo demo games?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yes, yeah.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: I thought you meant by the lobsters, and I was like, I don't remember that.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well the Star Fox was always in the lobster tank area.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's just they go hand in hand, lobster and starfox.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: I know it.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: I remember what you mean now.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: Go to the yeah, I remember.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but then people started cutting them off.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_02: People started stealing the controllers from the that were sticking out.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's why we can't have nice things.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like about all the controllers you want, though.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: This fucking grubby kid hand, yeah, like oh, it thing was a biohazard.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody's definitely came on it more than once.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: Without a doubt.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Without a doubt.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they had gotten rid of them, you know, before that was really a thing for me, just coming uh physically.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: And but I had I had I had looked forward to it and you know getting to add to the community.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it's sad that they stopped that.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was gonna be like, fine, I'll just get the lobsters.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: And nope, took those away too.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: Nope, they stopped that too.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a shame.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we're not actually gonna be talking about coming on lobsters all day.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we're actually gonna be discussing the film this week.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: We saw a movie, we want to talk about it.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're gonna be discussing the film, They Live.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's an oldie but a goody.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll to be determined.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_00: And um, we're gonna do it in a three-part method guaranteed to get you results.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: All right, first, we're gonna rate it out of five stars.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: I know since the 80s, people have been clamoring at the bit to finally know if this was good or not, and that's about to be answered today.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Then we're gonna dive onto the golden path, unlock the deeper meanings behind uh Viper's performance.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then finally, we're gonna insert ourselves, drugs, or alcohol into the movie.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: And what makes it so special and fun is everybody doing it under the influence.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, well, for James, for those people who don't know, James, what are you drinking?
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Coffee, Ube Liqueur, ice milk.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: Lovely.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm finally gonna finish off because I just realized it was hiding in here.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna finish off my wild turkey 101.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's been knocking around this office, and I'll be washing it down with Coke and Knob Creek.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Very nice.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, smooth, smooth, and then tomorrow I swear, no drinking.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: Good luck.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, first let's line them up.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: This first toast, first shot.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: This one goes out to our newest listeners.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: These ones are coming to us from Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what that first one was supposed to be, but it's next to Grenoble Azir, the Ishire du Savway.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: They're also listening to us.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: Sol coming in, of course.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: They're pop through the speakers there every Friday.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but like I'm curious.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let me let me look up this seal.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, wonderful VPNs, guys.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_02: You really gotta start using ones that Ryan can pronounce.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you're killing me here.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: I have no idea what he's trying to say.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: That'd be wonderful.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So this is the one.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't see the words, so I can't.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's connected to Bordeaux.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh France.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: The Siorac and Perigo.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then what else we had?
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: We had the Grenoble, I'm assuming that's French too, because we've been getting some action with French VPNs.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: I don't imagine all of these quaint little villages of France are just suddenly like, yo, have you heard this fucking thing?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: That one is also in France.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder what it I wonder what it is.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder what I wonder if France has uh some specific laws around VPNs or something.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, because it's it's not just one or two listens from France, like and the and they've listened multiple times.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: So whoever has the uh the France uh VPN that you're using, thanks for listening.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: Stop by, say hello.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_00: And also a little shout out to Tokyo because they're blowing up too.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Say bonjour.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: Bonjour.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: So here's to them.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yummy.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: That uh it's got a weird flavor to it.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_02: Has it just been getting too much air, you think?
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh well.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: You'll get the job done.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't uh drink for enjoyment.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh drink to get fucked up.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Mine tastes too good.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: The Ube liqueur tastes too good, and so I want to drink a lot of it.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: What's no, no, no, no, no.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to drink more.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: I can only handle a little bit of alcohol on this medication.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: I can only have a smidge.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: I need to really spread it out.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_02: I shouldn't drink out I shouldn't drink caffeine that fast either.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm on prescription stimulants.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the second test, this one, goes out to well, I guess uh you riding the wave of your prescription stimulants, and still doing this wonderful show for the fans.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: So here's to use.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody, you should all take stimulants, whether they're prescribed or not.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: Cheers.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you you should, whenever you go over to a friend's house, look in their medicine cabinet and see if they have stimulants in there.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: They can just say they lost their stimulants and get more.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: You can just take those.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_02: And have them for yourself.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: Those are yours now.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: You could also probably just ask them, be like, hey, have you tried like eight different stimulants trying to find the right one for you?
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_02: And they'll probably have a box full of them like I do, of ones that I'm never gonna use.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, here dude.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: Try some.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well finally, last toast, here goes uh to the movie this week.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Here is to they live.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: This podcast has always been on the cutting edge of recent topics.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, George Romero, new uh new director.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well no, it's it's fucking uh oh John Carpenter, my bad.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: John Carpenter, yeah.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my bad.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: He he name-dropped himself alongside I just was I was looking at a note I had that he name-dropped himself alongside George Romero at the end.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like in the news, in the news at the end.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so at first I thought um this was Oh, yeah, he did.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was that was bizarre.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: So at first I thought that this one was part of the apocalypse trilogy, which I was mistaken.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: It is not.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was in there.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: The apocalypse trilogy of um why can't we think of his name all of a sudden?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: John Carpenter.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: John Carpenter.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: It was the thing.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Father of Darkness.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that one.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: I always gotta pull him up.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Nightmare on Elm Street.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: That was him.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was, but no, it was where are you?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't I pull it up?
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, there it is.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Prince of Darkness 87, The Thing 82, and In the Mouth of Madness 95.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: And in the mouth of madness, uh, if you watch that one, fucking trippy, and it stars Sam Neal.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've heard it's really good.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Also, I was wrong about Nightmare and El Shrews, Wes Craven, not Sean Carpenter.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: My bad.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're just all over the place with these directors today.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're all honestly, they're all the same.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't give a shit.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're all the same.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're all the same.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: So, well, um, James, did you want to do the summary on this one?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_02: So it kicks off with us following a a rowdy Roddy Piper, a not so rowdy Roddy Piper.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Slowly wandering Piper.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, slowly wandering over train tracks and with look looking out with like the blankest stare you've ever seen on anybody.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: He looks like a little boy in like one of those 50 50s drawings, you know, like with rosy cheeks and like glassy eyes.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: And he was so puffy in this one.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_02: Especially at the beginning.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: And he's he's just totally blank faced, just with a very slight like smile, just looking around.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh he eventually uh he tries to get work, but he there's nothing open for him in the usual channels, so he goes to a union site and convinces the the manager of a union construction site to let him work as a non-union day laborer.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: The 80s were wild.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: The the fucking just the the level of goddamn like privilege that they had back then.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because my dad did the same kind of shit.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it was that mentality of like, get in there, shake a hand, get your job, undercut the experience, get paid less.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: So when they tell us to do it, it's because they they just like, yeah, nothing ever changes.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_00: The way it was for me is the way it is for everyone now.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was just wild.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was just wild.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there he meets Keith David, and Keith David uh takes him, the they they they be they become friends, and he takes them to the homeless camp that uh that he's living at, the tent city he's at, and it's got it's a little commune where they have like shared meals and like they're taking care of each other.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we get our first glimpse of uh the movie's like true intent, where uh like a hacker uh plays a video on the television.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a uh Max Headroom style uh uh video broadcast theft where where this like guy, this talking head is is talking about you know uh about how the the world is all fucked up and it's making some good points.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it also makes some crazy conspiracy points.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: And people are kind of like, uh, this guy's why I'm trying to watch television.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's what everyone's like trying to watch fucking TV at at this homeless camp.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: And so it gets dismissed, and then uh over the course of time, we kind of uh we see like at a uh he ra Roddy Piper over the over the course of like an evening or so like sees some interesting behavior and notices like across the street that there is a church people are going into.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_02: He kind of like he goes to check it out and he hears singing.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh he wants to he kind of goes in to look around and uh and he realizes it's all fake.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: The the people who are broadcasting the the hacking thing are actually some people from the homeless camp and others, and they're doing it from this church, and he kind of stumbles onto it.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and at the same time, you know, they uh or or maybe it's a little later they get raided.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but he finds some uh sunglasses.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: He finds some sunglasses that let him see the world in a different way.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: It lets him see we learn the influence of some aliens who have come to Earth to take over in an insidious way, to look like us, and they use subliminal messages and branding.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: And so we can see he can see the their faces, their faces end up end up being like these almost like uh zombie-like faces.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you would say they kind of have the skin skin removed away, uh, and uh and they look horrifying.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: And he can see them, he can see them for who they are when he wears these sunglasses, these special sunglasses.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: So he before this, he's like, you know, I'm a good guy, I follow the rules.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I I know that if I work hard, I'll make a switcher.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he immediately is like, this world is fucked.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: I can fix it.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: He uh he s he he calls one of them out, and then uh they use the cops to uh to attack him, and and the cops are some of the cops are the ail these aliens, and so they attack him, he ends up wrestling using his wrestlers, sweet wrestling moves to to beat him, and then grab their guns and kill them, and then he grabs a shotgun out of the cruiser, goes to a bank, and shoots them all up at a bank, blowing people away.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's where the famous line uh it's it's where it's where a famous line that's been repeated often comes from as the I'm here to uh kick chew but chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: When so I was watching it in my room, and when that line played, Callie, who had never seen this before, walks out and goes, That's where this is from?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yup.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm here to kick bubblegum and chew ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um but uh but yeah, he starts blowing people away, and everyone, all the regular people around have no idea why he's reacting like this or doing any of these things.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but he ends up going on the run.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: He uh he hijacks a car with a woman inside and kind of holds her hostage.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, she ends up turning him in uh uh to the to the aliens, he escapes.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Let me see.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: Eventually he goes to try to get Keith David's out, and the longest fist fight in all of movies.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: They have uh a 20-minute dragged out brawl in an alleyway, and when it's done, when it's finished, and they finally ended that and they just kind of like stumble out of there together.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you guys better be stumbling into a hospital, yeah.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: For real, seriously.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, though that's not just bruises, you guys have some in serious internal damage to each other.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: That that fight ended five times.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then this guy just gonna keep going.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: It was very funny.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and then and then eventually Keith David is on his side, they end up meeting up with the rest of the resistance.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, they get attacked, uh, and uh uh.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Roddy and Keith end up escaping to an alien mothership.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh alien mothership is a white collar banquet.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like so clear what we're looking at here.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_02: We'll we'll talk more about it, and I assume the golden path, even though it's like it's not his there's no hidden meaning here.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's all very on its face.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: But but we're there, we see a bunch of rich people.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: Rich people have kind of given in to the aliens because they uh because they like the control.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's easy for like they're they agree to help them because of the control aspect.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then Keith and Roddy uh decide to take down the broadcast, even though they know that it's probably a suicide mission.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna take down the broadcast that lets them uh that lets the aliens control the the television, like control you through the television.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: And uh and they end up succeeding.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: And the aliens are exposed across all across the televisions.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: You see them for and the planet, that you see them all for what they really are.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: What's the matter, baby?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then you get a wild smash cut to credits, which I don't know if I've ever seen anything like that.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what's the matter, baby?
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: The last scene.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: That alien, though, like they they brought it up in the movie where like you look weird to me too.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like the aliens say you look weird to me too.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: So that dude was just a freak.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like he went to this to him, which essentially is like a just a third world game preserve.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I'll fuck him while I'm here.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't give a fuck.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: There are monster fuckers out there, you know, like online, like there's plenty of people who would identify on monster fuckers.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: I assume most of our listenership is oh yeah, are are monster fuckers or or you know, aspire to be monster fuckers, and so you can see where the guy's coming from.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: But yes, at the very end of this movie, there's this blonde woman riding riding a guy, and then and then the for and then the the the the illusion force field is taken down.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: She looks down and sees this alien.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: She goes, and then he goes, What's wrong, baby?
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: And then as soon as he says that, credits just smash cut to credits.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: Very, very weird.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: Dude was living his best life.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking weird.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was it's a super woke by today's standards.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: Buddy uh terrorist murder film.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a schizophrenic.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: I think I texted this to you like right after I went, this is a schizophrenic's wet dream.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a trip.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: It is a trip.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: And um, well, well, let's rate this bad boy.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you should shall I uh shall I yeah, go for it.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: So, all right, so acting.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let me just wait, wait, there was acting in this movie.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I just vaguely recall, I vaguely recall.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: See, like well, first like this movie to me, um, this movie's fun.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good time, it's a good time.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's got messages that resonate with me, obviously.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Shooting alien, blasting aliens in a bank.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Rowdy Rowdy Piper, obviously one of the true American thespians without it.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Classically trained the Jesse Ventura School of Acting.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I I will say last night I watched Murder on the Nile.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And um with Gal Godot.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's he definitely blows Galgadot out of the water.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: With his range.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_02: She really does have very little range.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, and watching it, I realized that Wonder Woman only worked for you because Wonder Woman as a character is just sort of out of sorts, unfamiliar with the environment, not a hundred percent sure about social cues and how to interact with people.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it worked.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: We thought you were acting.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, it turns out who she is.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's just who you are.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: So acting here better than Galga Duff or God, whatever.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: But there's some rough, there's some there's some rough line delivery here for sure.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: The actress who plays Holly Thompson is so oh my god, she was so bad.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: And and we're just like dude, and you could tell that that Rowdy was in like a bad place in his life where this woman with zero personality can start driving his decisions, you know?
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Where I mean, and like I get being so like distraught that you know you just walk into a bank and do what he did.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: I but then you know he's a hurting man when the first woman who looks at him this entire time is able to like hijack his decision making.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: But uh acting here, yeah, it's rough.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Some of this acting is really, really rough.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: However, it's adequate for what it was needed to be.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, it didn't need to be much more than it was.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, some of it brought it really down, but then there is some just absolutely insane line delivery that like the fucking chewing ass and eating bubblegum.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh people who have no idea what this movie is are like, wait, that's what it's from, and it just it worked.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: It worked.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, am I gonna tell you that you're about to find some good acting in this?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: Hell no.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hell no.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't really damage the movie too much.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: So acting on this one, I'm gonna give a two.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, choreography.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh like it was comp like.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're talking about John Carpenter.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: Choreography.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't even type it that time.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: But uh it's John Carpenter, he knows his way around uh you know doing this kind of thing.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: It was competently shot, it it followed scenes appropriately.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Never did I feel out of place or out of sorts.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um the the camera was always conveying what he was trying to say.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I I I appreciated it.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this movie had some staying power and it it's talked about in a lot of horror conversations.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I love the thing.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Love the thing.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: The thing is not this movie.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: So like as far as cinematography goes, though, I I see no I see no fault.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, uh I'll when we get to the score, I have some things to talk about.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: As far as this I will say some things that cinematography had issues with were scenes that were way too long.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, definitely.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: Scenes that were completely unnecessary.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like when Holly Thompson calls the police after she gets rowdy with the bottle and he falls out of her apartment.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a scene that happens, folks, at home.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: Dickson hits him with a wine pile.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: He goes flying out out of a window down a ravine.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: He takes a tumble through the Hollywood Hills.
• 26:59
  unknown: Yeah.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then just kind of stumbles across the street.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then it does this cold cut to Holly with a telephone and going, No, I'm fine.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he's gone now.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like she was terrible.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, she was so bad.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: She was so bad.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: When when they all stopped drinking long enough to actually film a movie, I was happy with it.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, cinematography on this one, I'm gonna give a 2.5.
• 27:33
  unknown: Okay.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_02: I love that I'm really happy with it.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_02: Got a 2.5.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, look, um, you can like a thing and it's bad.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: So um as far as the score goes, so he had like, especially if you watch fucking uh the other movies he's done, Mouth of Madness, anything else in the the the other one in the apocalypse trilogy, Father of Darkness, or whatever it was.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_00: He loves that just fucking single note bass line that keeps the fucking tempo.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: It worked incredibly well in the thing.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: He also used it minimally in the thing, and he used it so well that we just talked about it in uh Craigger's Resident Evil that they he straight up ripped off the thing for Resident Evil's soundtrack.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: In this one though, after you said that I went and saw Resident Evil again and I listened for it, and yeah, that that bum bum bum bum was so good, and then there was like the single note high piano key where it where it like got faster and faster.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I liked it a lot.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_02: I you you mentioned it, so I was like, I gotta see this again.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I went I went and saw it again.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh yeah, there it is.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: But it obviously this is the same guy, so the style is still there, and you can hear the same style in all the movies he does.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Here he overdid it, and he tried to add like sort of a uh a western bluesy twang to sort of match the feeling of listless homelessness, you know.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we even see Rowdy with a harmonica at once, you know, like this is the dust bowl of the 80s, yeah.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: And they had it so fucking tough.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, yeah, you know, the the boomers really had it rough, and this music was was still doing that, but he tried to add, and he and it just he forgot that like, hey, you gotta you gotta turn it off every once in a while.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um in in the in they live, it starts in the beginning and carries through to the end, um punctuated occasionally by a gunshot and a one-liner.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: So here it was a little distracting.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was a little distracting.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: So for that, I'm gonna give the soundtrack a 2.5.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: 2.5 got it.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh after that, uh let's see, we got uh we got acting, cinematography, sound scrack.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what's the next one?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: We got uh I did put it in chat.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: For whatever reason my chat isn't connecting, but so plot.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: Lock in, love it.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: We're we're talking like this thing is so thinly veiled that the rich are taking over the world.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: This plot was written for me.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: If uh if I ever find myself and and like the world we're in knows just to feed me just enough to to keep going.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, no, if I if I ever find myself in this same kind of position where I'm listlessly roaming from construction job to construction job, I would also just be one pair of sunglasses away from doing the exact same shit.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: So this was this was right there for me.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: Don't you see?
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: They're aliens.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: I just needed an excuse.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, loved it.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: I I loved him rolling in.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: I loved meeting Keith David.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: I love the the buddy concept.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_00: I love that the rich have taken over and they're just brainwashing it all.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: I love taking those same rich people and just fucking shooting them all.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: I love fucking it all up for a woman who really isn't good for me in any sort of way, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I love ending it on what's the matter, baby?
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was there for it.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: This plot, it it tickles me in all the right ways.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Fantastic.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'll sign up again and again.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_00: I give this plot a four out of five.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, wonderful.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: And um rewatchability.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen this movie a million times, and goddamn, I'm I'm gonna see it a million more.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't even need it to be Christmas to watch it again.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: Do I attach it to any particular special occasion?
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, but every time I'm in sort of that, and I've been really strong into the sort of 80s, 70s horror lately, it's always gonna have a seat at the table.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: And if we're talking carpenter, I'm gonna give it a mention.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, rewatchability on this bad boy, 4.5.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: 4.5.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: This should be a Labor Day.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: That's a Labor Day movie, a Labor Day film for sure.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: Or maybe I'm gonna I'm gonna fight the urge to change my score to a five now that I have a holiday for it.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can't do it, you're allowed to.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, fuck it.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, five out of five.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna watch this every Labor Day, and when I'm in the mood for a schizophrenic fucking 80s crap fest horror, like, yeah, I'm putting this bad boy on.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm not putting it on before the thing.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: I am not putting it on before the thing.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: But god damn it, I'm gonna watch this movie again and I'm gonna keep watching it until the day I die.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: So, a quick calculation for you.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's a 3.2 rounds down to a three.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's where we're at right now.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see if it holds that spot.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: Highly doubtful.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Acting.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I think the acting in this is brilliant.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: I think that everybody was making a choice that that choice was to be like a wooden puppet from 17th century Germany.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: But no, I think the I think the acting in this, especially because especially the Polly Thompson character, was just so.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_02: How did they end up casting that character?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's bizarre.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: She knew someone.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_02: She knew someone.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's bizarre.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: She she had naked pictures of John Carpenter with a person who was not his wife.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: She specifically brought it way down.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: The the acting from a lot of the a lot of them uh was bad.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh This movie, in many ways, was as subtle as a freight train.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: And and uh and yeah, that really takes away from like all aspects of the movie from me for me.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so acting is definitely pretty low.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: You were you were like gets the job done and stuff and gave it a two.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm like, this is really bad and gave it a two.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: So Rowdy Rowdy Piper is such a bad actor, also.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh they gave him well, he got better.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_02: They gave him some lines like the like the like the cake, uh, two bubblegum and kick ass and stuff, and and uh you better you're gonna wear these glasses or start eating that trash.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like those lines were the way they the way he delivered those lines was bad.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's really I think it's a time and a place, but it's just not good.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so two for me for cinematography.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh this movie seemed to not know how to end a shot.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: It didn't know what to do to end a shot.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of times we ended up hanging on people's faces for like three or four seconds after they were done doing anything.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_02: And and and in the editing room, he was like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: Just keep the kids, just keep another three to four seconds so people know that that's what happened.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: They gotta need time to digest it.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_02: And then the smash cut at the end makes that very funny.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: That's the only like smash cut in the whole movie.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's what he was doing it for.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was the stroke of genius.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have time to digest this one.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: Don't give him any time.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: I got a scene.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, guys, I got a scene coming.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Trust me.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: But like we really just I can't like I we probably had to hang on rowdy rowdy piper's face of him just doing that that weird boyish smile.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: It had to be like five minutes of the camera hanging on him saying nothing, just looking.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know, that's bad cinematography.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's bad fucking cinematography.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: It was a choice.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: It was a choice to be bad.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was it was it was really I thought this was a pretty rough watch cinem cinematographically.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: So I thought they did some interesting things, like uh, there was the drone bit, you know, where they had like the view from the drone, which kind of like was pro which was a little prophetic about like how important drones were gonna be and like having camera-mounted drones.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I found that shot interesting.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, and uh so I'm gonna go ahead and and give it a 2.5 also.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: There's some stuff in there that wasn't too bad, but it was pretty bad.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: So right now we're pretty even.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: So you just I'm the the thought came, and before I lose it, Roddy got better before he called it a day.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: He he had he had a line delivery and always sunny in Philadelphia, which was like so creepily haunting when they asked, Oh, wait, you you all you have kids?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Nah, not anymore.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: And they they did the same thing that he does with the three-second hang-on as you digest what he just said.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's very interesting that all of his movies had that.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's really interesting.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's bad.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's there to be made fun of, if anything.
• 39:03
  unknown: Yeah.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: For score, I totally agree with you.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_02: The score was like the score was out of its mind.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: It was it was uh pounding and repetitive, and uh really it took me out of it so many times.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what the you know, it was like a jump scare with a soundtrack a lot of the time.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um there you go, guys.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was it.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was the score.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: 1.5 uh it wasn't Jurassic Park, uh, Jurassic World, whatever the last one was bad, but still.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: Plot this plot took some, I would call it some big swings.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: I would say that it the the pacing was bad on this plot.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: The pacing was bad, but specifically when he goes from like zero to a hundred and starts blasting people away, and then and then and then it it and then that's there's like five minutes where he's at like five-star wanted level, and then it like drop the action like drops back to zero for a long time, and then he gets to Keith David, and it's like, oh, he's they're farting, and it's like, oh, he goes from like zero to five, and we hang around five five miles per hour for like twenty minutes while they beat each other up to back to zero again until the end of the movie.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, when they get to the uh well, yeah, near the end of the movie, and he steps out of cover to shoot just like that.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with one one one-handed with an automatic gun and snipers off of rooftops, just yeah.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Fucking wolf.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: Insane.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Insane.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: Total insanity.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but yeah, the plot was I I actually we'll get to it in Golden Path, but there's some problems with the plot with like the metaphors and stuff that that actually leaves me frustrated with it more than like excited like you were.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so uh I'm going to uh go ahead and give this a three for plot.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's got a lot of problems, but it's got a lot of good things too, and they kind of balance themselves out.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh for rewatchability, this is my first time seeing this movie.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, yeah, this was my first time seeing this movie, and I have a note here like like uh the hacker speech is so exemplified by the GOP and Coke Industries and Prager University undermining education by defunding public schools and subsidizing homeschooling harder schools to reduce literacy and discourage critical thinking.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wait, wait a second, what that's my note.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wait.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, we're not talking about that, man.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's not why we're here.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh so so yeah, so there's some problems there.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_02: And uh and that kind of makes me not want to watch this again.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: I did I wasn't really uh I really wanted the movie to be over by the end.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_02: I was ex I was interested to see where it went.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm glad I saw it one time, uh, but I'm not that interested in seeing it again.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: If someone is like I haven't seen they live, I'll be like, maybe watch it.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how how tolerant are you of wasting an hour and a half?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but maybe I'll watch it with them if they're really adamant.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so I'm gonna give it a 1.5 on the rewatchability.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Solid.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: Solid.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: So Labor Day staple in the in the North household.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so uh that takes it to 2.65 total, and we round down to 2.5.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_02: Which is which is better than a lot of movies.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so there you have it, folks.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: They live.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: They live.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: 2.5.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, Piper.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: I I I know you needed that to um in memoriam.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: So with that being said, it's time to get on the golden path.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's get on the golden path.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: I I heard uh while we're while we're doing that, we're getting drinks ready and stuff.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I listened to another podcast called WrestleMovia, and they did a different a different movie that Roddy Piper's in.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Frog Town, I think it is, or something like that.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's insane.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: I heard it's an insane movie.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's an insane movie.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like he didn't want to do stuff unless it was insane.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: They they they uh there's some guys on there who uh worked with Roddy Piper, like there's One guy who runs like a Virginia uh wrestling league, and uh another guy who worked for security for him while he was uh there, and they got some stories about him that were really funny.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're if you're interested in hearing some personal stories about Roddy Piper now and what he's like, they're like they're like we heard stories like he's either you know, it depends on what kind of Roddy Piper you get, either the the one that's the coolest guy you've ever known, or fucking maniac who's a piece of shit, and they're like oh, all our stories like we're lucky, we got all good Roddy Piper, and it was fucking awesome.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: So they got some good stories.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: But that tracks, I mean, he was a coked out 80s wrestler.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like that that that tracks, you know.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: But uh no, I saw so I saw this when I was a child.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I saw this when I was a child, and um it it definitely had a impact on me for sure.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, like most things you witness when you're a child, but yeah, uh they live.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Frogtown probably don't show to your children.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, no, no, do show it to your children.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I am the uh this is what you get this is what you get for doing that.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: So as long as you know what you're in for, as long as you're aware, it'll fuck you up.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it'll it it fucks you up.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_00: It fucks you up.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of things will fuck you up though.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: See, things are gonna fuck you up.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: Choose, you get to choose what fucks your kids up.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: If you don't choose, the circumstance will choose what choose what fucks your kids up for you.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so if you don't fuck your kids up, then someone else is gonna fuck them up, and you have to decide how do they get fucked up.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_02: Or you'll fuck them up in a way that you didn't intend to.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: Make the choice.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: Make the choice.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Pull down they live.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck them up, but by your standards.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: What were we doing?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, golden path.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: So uh here's to a 2.5, and here's to the late great Rowdy Rowdy Piper.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Cheers.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you have kids?
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, not anymore.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: Oh.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, deeper meanings.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously, they they hit they hit us over the head with a sledgehammer on what he was trying to talk about here.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: And you say that.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, again, maybe it's just because I've been watching it since I was a child.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I immediately I I think of they live as a kids movie.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um like you play this at nap time and shit, right?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this is the this is the basic where six, seven, and eight-year-olds are.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um when he started when he started blowing people away with that shotgun.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: I went, whoa.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: Just but like so I have like arguments for and against it.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I see the the the absolute wildness of where that is, but then I also see a side of it of you take a desperate population group, sure, you know, who's already like I I don't have roofs, like don't know where the next meal's coming from, don't know like you just take a group of people who are so uncertain about tomorrow, and then of any group, if I were suddenly to show them, not just explain to them, just show them with a pair of sunglasses that hey, you're doing this because that alien dude right there controls your mind and is stealing your resources.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Here's a shotgun.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I can see But I think that's the problem.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: I think that the that by making them inhuman, that's a huge problem.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: Cause it because it leaves a uh it leaves a space the size of the Grand Canyon for people to say that oh, it's it's not the people who are the problem aren't humans.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: The humans are just falling into line with these alien monsters or whatever, and that's not what people are really like.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: They're getting they're all they're they're falling into line based on everyone wants money.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_02: I want money, you know, it's excusable for those people, and and um I think that's a huge problem.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's if it it stops viewers short of a true criticism of real humans whose greed and extraction of wealth from the lower classes and from the planet has ruined our society and created mechanisms of the state and business to uphold them and and and create a uh create barriers to access of things like uh resources we need for life and and and education and all of these things.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_02: It by making the threat inhuman, it it it uh people do not have the empathy to they people barely have enough empathy to consider other people human and and like put them on the same level as themselves, and to make them aliens puts it even farther, like, oh, those things don't matter, we can kill those as long as it's not people, you know.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I I would like to see a version of this modern that shows them as a human class.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: That would be great.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'd like to see, but like I can also see where in the 80s where, you know, I mean, we're they're only a hop from Reaganomics taking over and all those sorts of things, and this is like a direct response to that, but then I could also see a point where the people they're talking about and people who see this, they haven't met um the wealth class.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um like your your average person has never met people in this alien class.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: I have.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: And and I I also think that John Carpenter, especially at this time, he's talking like X the thing, like he's he's you know, he's he's successful in Hollywood.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: He he's met the aliens.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: And from the perspective of someone who's met the aliens, yeah, they aren't human.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: They aren't they don't think like humans, they don't act like humans.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_02: They are human though.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: They are that's the thing, is they are human.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_02: And see, but until you accept that they aren't, you're never gonna shoot up a bank.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_02: But that's but that's the problem.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if you really want to tell people that it's humans being the problem, and the you have to address it, you have to address these people who are doing inhumane things.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_02: They're always gonna be like, Well, yeah, it would be yeah, there's always if it were aliens removed.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's always yes, which I agree with.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: I can handle it if it were aliens.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's I'm all on board if it's aliens, but people talk about oh, these people.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's not right.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's not people, it's like aliens.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's like oh yeah, yeah, no.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: People really truly believe that there are reptilian people in the government who are controlling reptilian aliens controlling everything, and that's why everything's bad.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's a real thing that some people believe.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, and here's the thing about it is like, yeah, you guys are totally right, but the reptilian part, it's metaphorical.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_02: But they think it's literal.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's what I'm saying about.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: I understand.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: No, which I understand entirely.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: I understand entirely, and I would love to see a version of this where the same central events occur just against the people who are doing this to us in real life.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: Because what these aliens are doing and they live is literally happen happening to us.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: He just tried to put it into a digestible their aliens.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_02: Which they're specifically it was like really expensive wristwatches and stuff.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I would, I would love if if they did the glasses, but like instead of making them aliens or something, it like made them it made them somehow identifiable to each other that we weren't clear on.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_02: That there's something because they because rich people actually do that.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: There was I can't remember what movie there was about a scene about it was oh, it was the Big Lebowski, I think, about shoes, where it's like uh you can tell if a man's actually wealthy by his shoes, and it's like someone comes in with like a suit and you know, a really expensive suit and stuff, but you look at his shoes and they don't match or whatever.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_02: But but like being able to like something that's identifiable to each other that we lower classes don't understand that makes them notice each other, that would be better, in my opinion.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, and we've actually talked about this a few times now with like the uprising that we did a couple weeks ago.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there was a time when the peasant class, which is you, me, and everyone listening to this, weren't allowed to dress like the rich people.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: Then they realized that makes us super identifiable.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then like the French Revolution happened and they they legitimately dressed down to blend.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_00: And but now everyone like the expectation is that everyone wears the suit, and so like if if the you know the revolution comes, you have to be able to point out the shoes, you have to be able to point out the watch.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, no, so that's uh that's a super interesting point, but on the same topic then, at the where we're at right now, so how would this movie change with uh the introduction of you?
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: What would be different in they live when the high and dry crew shows up?
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_02: So, first thing that would change, I wouldn't go scab at a union site.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's bullshit.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'd never do that.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I would so after I went there and he was like, you know, it was a union place, I'd be like, ah fuck.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: And then I would probably this is this is the 80s, so I'd probably go find some crack, and then I would uh slowly die on the street.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: You ever even see the sunglasses?
• 55:32
  unknown: No.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_02: The only way I'd see the sunglasses is if I met Keith David, and I don't meet him if I don't work at the job site.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I just die, I just die because I'm a crack addict.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: But look, yeah, but the problem with that though, this is the 80s.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: The the crack was purposely being fed into black communities.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's true.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: You would have a buffer.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, that's right.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not black.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_02: Not yet.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_02: I do a reverse, Michael Jackson?
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I got a pigment condition.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: I just get covered in so many freckles that then I turn brown.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess weed, I guess weed would be my thing.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so then I I learn that weed also does the same thing as the glasses, right?
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: Weed weed is the is the same thing as glasses, but also you're it does impair you a little bit.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_02: So it would essentially turn into an 80s version of like Pineapple Express, where Keith, David, and I end up in a car, we get lost in the woods outside Los Angeles.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: We we cut we come back and we we don't we stumble into the mothership portal, but we we don't do there's there's very little there's no gunfighting up until like the very end.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh gun.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then whoa.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh I definitely uh I definitely meet Holly late so she doesn't have any reason to shoot us.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, and I then I think I think Keith David and I get out of there alive.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh instead of the sunglasses, we just spread, we become pot dealers and we spread the pot around so people so people can see.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh yeah, and eventually just kind of we get so we get enough people around doing it that eventually we all it's eventually people stumble into the portal and stumble into the solution.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_02: Instead of it just being two guys, you know?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_02: All right, all right.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: Or I die of crack.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: One of the one of the two.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's either that or crack.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's either that or crack.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Keith David and I don't beat each other nearly to death.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I'll kill you for not wearing glasses.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'll kill you for trying to get me to wear glasses.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was wild is that this movie's woke now.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: Wild, yeah.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: Very yeah, this movie's woke now.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but back then it was like like literally, this this movie is just soaked in WWF testosterone.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like I love the I love the scene when he bashed in the Keith David's back window with the two by four.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it was like he gave his look like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit your car.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_02: I was just trying to hit you with the two by four.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta believe me.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_02: I was just trying to break all your bones.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't mean that, dude.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_00: And then he fucks up the glass and they laugh.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: No, and it's it's so wild, the um psyop that you know, the powers that be started seeing here that these tough guys were on the side of generally good.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they wanted to stop the aliens and everything like that.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: And but then the powers that be were like, we gotta change that.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_00: We gotta change that.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um man's mans need to not be doing good things, they need to be anti-freedom, they need to be anti-the little guy.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: They they yeah, and it's it's just it's it's fucking insane.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like this movie.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Hulk Hogan ratted out Hulk Hogan ras it ratted out Jesse Ventura's attempt to unionize the WWE to Vince McMahon, and then the Vince McMahon fucking fired him.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, Hulk Hogan, you can burn in hell.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just wild.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: It is absolutely wild what you morons have been convinced is woke now.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's so insane, it's so insane, and yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, if if I was in this movie, i it I'd be insidious.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm I am not a 17th-century German puppet that would stumble his way from murder spree to murder spree.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_00: Just essentially, I'd be like, cool, you you have now I would get these glasses, I'm gonna get myself back on my feet, and I'm now going to insidiously dismantle these aliens.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like it we're now gonna watch Assassin's Creed takes down these fucking rich ass aliens, and like the but the little and the humans that support them, and then yeah, that was about the little motherfucker with the mustache who supports these guys, he's getting it worse than the aliens.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_02: The homeless guy who is who became a class trader.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, class traders are gonna get it worse than the class I'm fighting.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you're good, you're gonna be strung up.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be ugly.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be ugly, it's gonna be dirty.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I I now know that the aliens don't have the technology to track down a man who literally just shot up a bank.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I have a lot of wiggle room to do my nefarious deeds.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_02: So this is why they want this is why they want flock cameras everywhere.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, flock camera, yeah.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_00: You fucking boot lickers.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck flock cameras are out there right now, so you can't pull a they live, yeah, and stop, yeah.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, it's your right as an American to shoot up a bank.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody, everybody can do it once, and then and but but not more than that.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_00: As the founders laid down, you get one bank, you get one statement, yeah, and yeah, these flock cameras go in the face of that.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_00: Jokes aside, though, if you support those flock cameras, like Jesus Christ, like that's bad.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: Holy shit.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like you like boot that much?
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_02: You can't actually believe that every person behind every computer in the government has your good has good intentions at heart, and it only takes a couple of them, one or or a few of them with bad intentions, to really fuck up your life and everybody's lives.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I was talking to a I was talking to a guy uh just just a little bit ago about those, and his like he now he's like, now that I'm a father, I want flock cameras to be able to catch if someone steals my child.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody wants your fucking kid.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of focusing on your hypothetical, your nonsensical hypothetical.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about the very real fact that so far all these things have been used for was to take away the rights of other people and to hunt down the ex-girlfriends of cops.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: There was there was one instance I just heard about in Schaumburg uh of a uh of a cop who was having an affair with a man's wife, and he used Flock to track the man.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_02: He was having an affair with that man's actually fiance, and he was tracking the man to make sure that man wouldn't be around when they were cheating.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it like and what's why and he faced no discipline, he retired.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_02: No discipline.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing, nothing.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: He just got to to abuse this, and like if you have one of the and because it's all of you, it's all you motherfuckers with the don't tread on me sticker who support this flock camera shit.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_00: Tread on me, daddy, tread harder tread harder on me, daddy.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, seriously, just take that thing off of your shitty truck because you're a little fucking loser bitch.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: So and we're high and dry podcast.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Ryan Barron North.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: With me as always, James Crosslin.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_00: They live.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_00: Congratulations on a very like overly deserved 2.5.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, good on you.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_00: And to the late and great Rowdy Roddy Piper.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I hope the 72% of stories we hear about you where you're really cool are the true ones.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm here to chew bubblegum and eat ass.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'm all out of bubblegum.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_02: Wear that ass.
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.