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Raising 3 Boys, Having a Career, Endless Comedy with Selah Victor · Mommywood

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  Welcome back to Mommy Wood, the podcast where we dive into the
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  wild, beautiful and sometimes completely crazy world of being
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  both a mom and a performer. I am your host Emily and if
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  you've ever found yourself running on coffee, passion and
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  the sheer willpower of a sleep deprived parent, then you are in
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  the right place. On this episode of Mommy Wood, I
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  have the pleasure of sitting down with the hilarious and
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  wonderful Sayla Victor. She's an actor, comic, host, and
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  boy mom of three. She is one of eight kids.
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  She has six brothers so she is definitely already used to that
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  boy energy. And it also makes sense that she
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  figured out how to make her voice heard early on, and since
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  then, she has built such a cool and varied career with the TV
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  guest spot on shows like Modern Family at Brooklyn 99-A big
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  feature in Bad Santa, too. And if you have kids who watch
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  Miraculous Ladybug, you probably already know her as the voice of
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  Chloe. She's also a theater girl at
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  heart and performs on stage in LA, all while raising three boys
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  and somehow keeping her sense of humor intact.
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  Her boy mom content on social media, on Instagram.
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  Make sure you follow her. It's so good, so funny, we love
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  it. In our conversation, we get into
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  how she balances the chaos of boy mom life, but with her
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  creative life, and while why comedy has been her through line
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  and how it's helped her through, and the messy, funny, surprising
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  ways that her career and motherhood have really shaped
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  her. This was such a great, lovely,
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  fun, relatable conversation. I know you're going to enjoy
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  this episode of Mommy Would with Stella Victor.
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  We're off to a Fang and Star. Yes, we are.
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  We're. Here we are here.
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  Sayla, thank you so much for being here.
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  Thank you. I'm so excited to talk to you
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  boy. Mama 3.
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  Three boys. Wow. 1.
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  Girl. Right, one girl.
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  Doesn't it sound like the easiest thing ever?
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  Question. But it's all relative.
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  That's the thing. You don't know.
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  What do you like? I remember having with my first
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  son, I just thought it was the hardest thing in the world.
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  Yeah. And I didn't.
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  The worst part is I didn't expect it to be hard.
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  Like, I was a nanny for many years.
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  I'm one of eight kids. I taught kids for years in camps
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  and classes, and all of a sudden I was always around kids.
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  So I'm like, why is this so hard?
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  Like, I could get 4 kids to bed every Saturday night for four
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  years in college. Why can't I get my one kid to
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  sleep? Yeah, I used to think, I think
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  that I was like, like a baby whisperer.
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  Totally. I was like, turns out they're
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  just not my kids. That's right.
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  That's that's. The key You're the best parent
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  until you become one. It's.
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  So true. It's it's very unfortunate.
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  So you're like other kids would just listen to me?
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  Why are you not just listening to me?
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  So what are your boys names and ages?
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  OK, Ezra is 7, Micah is 4, almost 5, and Ari just turned 2.
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  Oh my God. I know so you have quite a.
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  Range. Yes.
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  They're about two to 2 1/2 years apart.
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  Yeah. So you knew that.
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  So you've grew up with a lot of kids in your family.
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  Where do you fall in that? Sign #4 and I have six brothers,
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  so I was used to boys. You are.
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  Surrounded. I was surrounded and yeah, I had
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  this weird thing. I for sure thought I was having
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  a girlfriend. And my third, because I already
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  had two boys, I was convinced was a girl.
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  I'm like, there's no way that's true.
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  It's not a boy. And they were like, it is.
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  And here's the penis on the ultrasound.
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  So you cannot argue with that. I know.
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  Was there any? Did you have any Like, I forget
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  what the term is. Gender disappointment.
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  Yeah. Because did you want a girl?
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  Did you care? I.
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  Did have gender. So interestingly enough, and
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  people don't talk about it a lot because it's sort of like a
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  shame. Yeah.
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  Because of course you want a healthy baby.
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  Ultimately, that's all that matters.
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  Sure, sure. But there was only because,
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  like, I did have this weird fantasy of like, me and my
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  daughter going to get Manny Petty's and dressing her up.
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  Like I loved my dolls growing up.
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  And because I had so many brothers, I wanted a little
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  girl. I have a sister too, who's my
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  best friend. Like, I love her, but you know,
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  I just had this fantasy that was like, we can no more.
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  Yeah. Well the worst part is we did
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  IVF for the first so I found out I had two boy embryos.
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  So so at. Least.
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  I have a girl to choose from. You're like I.
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  Just know, I just, I know there's no 50, There's no 50. 50
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  although so we did do IVF but my second and third were natural so
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  that's why I thought Oh well this is my girl you know like
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  but. That's so interesting how that
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  seems to happen a lot. But did you have to do?
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  Well, obviously if you were doing IVFI, assume there was
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  like a period of struggle there and then.
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  So then were the other two kind of more of a surprise or were
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  you just like, let's just try again and see if we need?
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  So yeah, so basically what happened was after our first, I,
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  we, we tried right away, you know, but and breastfeeding and
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  everything. And then I was done after a
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  year. And so I'm like, OK, now I'm
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  going to probably get pregnant. And then it was like 8 months
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  past being done breastfeeding and I still wasn't pregnant.
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  So I emailed the reproductive Dr. and I'm like, it's just not
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  happening. Like it's been, I don't know
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  what, a year and a half now and there's nothing.
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  So let's put in this other boy embryo.
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  And she wrote back and said like, come in Monday, whatever.
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  So I'm like, OK. And I realized I was like, hey,
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  wait, that's weird. I think, oh, because that's
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  right. She had asked me where I was in
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  my cycle because that matters. And I'm like, oh wait, that's
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  weird. I haven't started my period.
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  It's been like 30 days. Like it was only two days late,
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  but I'm like, I should take a pregnancy test.
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  And it was December 23rd. So I took a pregnancy test
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  pregnant, which was amazing for Christmas.
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  And so I didn't tell my husband that was the hardest part for
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  two days because I wanted to surprise him.
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  Like it's like perfect. I know I had to.
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  So that was amazing and such a weird, like, it's like taking
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  your car into the shop and it was, you know, not working and
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  then it's perfect. Yeah, you're like, actually just
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  kidding. I don't need to.
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  Oh my God, that's so wild. Was it a similar thing?
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  The second. Or the third time we were done
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  like I. This is TMI, but I will never
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  forget my husband was a vulgar of TMI and he's like, I'm so
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  scared we're going to get pregnant because I'm not on the
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  pill or whatever. I'm 41 years old.
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  We've had fertility problems. Yeah.
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  It wasn't like it was easy to get pregnant with the second,
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  you know? So he's like, I'm just going to
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  buy condoms because you refuse to get on the pill.
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  And I just know we're going to get baby done screen.
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  I'm like, you are crazy. I'm not going to have sex with
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  you if you buy condoms. I'm like, so go ahead and buy
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  them, but we're not going to use them and we are not going to get
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  pregnant. We're 41.
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  Are you insane? Like this is crazy.
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  Pregnant the next month, June, that was May.
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  We got pregnant in June. He was like, man.
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  I told you, you know, sometimes it's meant to be.
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  I'm struggling with like, do we even try for another one?
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  And it's kind of like, yes, I don't know.
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  But it's like I've been so crazy about like making the decision
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  or not where I'm like, I've gotten to the point where I'm
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  driving myself crazy. I just need to like, if it's
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  wait, if it's meant to be. She just turned 30.
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  That's perfect. Yeah, but it's also hard because
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  I'm like, well, we're already like out of diapers.
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  One girl is pretty easy. So true those things.
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  I mean, you're not wrong like one, there are a lot of benefits
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  to having 1. I feel like I was a really good
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  parent with one. I was.
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  Able to. I think you're doing great with
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  three from what I see. Well, you get into survival mode
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  a little bit, like with three, even two, I'm not going to lie.
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  Like, because it's just harder, there's more people who need
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  you, you know? Well, even 2 you're you're a
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  one-on-one you're it's man to man with if you have a partner,
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  but then three you're like, well, this third one of those is
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  fun. One of you has to.
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  Be so and 3rd does fend for themselves.
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  It's really interesting. I'm a third.
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  Are you? Yeah, but it's there's also the
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  toss up of like the third fending for themselves or the
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  third, like, because I'm the baby.
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  Yeah. So it's also like, I don't know,
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  I was also, you know, so different this time too.
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  I mean like me growing up. Exactly.
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  Kids growing up. Nowadays, just it's just, it is
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  a different world and we parent so differently than our parents,
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  which is great, which is. Good for the most part.
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  Yeah, there's so many great things about the way our
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  generation, the resources we have and the people we can learn
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  from or whatever, versus our parents have like one book, you
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  know, like Doctor Spock. Whatever.
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  And they're like, you were fine, you were fine.
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  Everything is fine. Like I gave you all the blankets
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  in your crib, you didn't suffocate.
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  And I'm like, luckily just if I have a love of the fittest out
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  here. Totally.
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  We made it. We did it it.
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  Really was. That's why our generation is so
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  great. Literally, I know it's.
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  So true. So knowing that you came from a
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  big family and you you just kind of it seems like you just knew
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  that you wanted kids, but then as an actor, were there any
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  like. Yeah.
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  Hookups. Yeah.
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  What's the word? What is the word?
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  Like bumps in the road or Yeah, roadblocks, Yeah.
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  Or reasons that you will like would put it off or like were
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  you like I want to have a kid let's.
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  No, I I definitely feel well, OK, it's funny that you should
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  ask that because my husband and I were just talking.
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  I was regretting. I'm like, why didn't we just get
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  pregnant right when we got married?
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  Because The thing is, we met at 23 and we got married at 28.
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  Like, we waited a long time to get married.
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  Yeah. So 28's already.
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  We could have gotten pregnant. It's not that young.
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  You know it's a good age to get pregnant, but.
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  It seems like a baby now. Because I had babies at 44 of
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  like this, that's really good. But it would have been nice
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  because then I would have had longer with my kids.
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  My I, I feel like there's a lot of pros to being an older mom,
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  but there are some cons like my parents are getting older and
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  all this stuff right? Absolutely.
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  So, but he reminded me he's like, yeah, but we are on our
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  own here. Our parents live in California.
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  That's great. But they're two to three hours
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  apart, you know, from us. Then they can't just get there.
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  I can't pick up the kids from school.
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  All these things. We didn't have help.
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  We didn't have the resources at that time to afford help.
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  They we couldn't afford to put them in the school we want them
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  in or whatever. Like there's so many things that
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  we didn't have a house, which it's nice that we have a house
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  with a yard now, you know, different resources that.
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  Need those boys to run out there.
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  Yes. It's not necessary to have all
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  those things. Nobody needs those.
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  We grew up with like nothing. And those eight kids, we turned
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  out great. But I just mean, it has been
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  nicer to have the resources being a bit older, you know, so
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  pros and cons. But I did, to answer your
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  question, I did put it off. And that's why I sort of regret
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  and and beat myself up a little because I did think, oh, my
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  career, my career. And looking back, that was so
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  stupid. And to anybody who's listening,
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  like babies truly bring blessings.
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  They make you a better person. They make you, if you're worried
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  about your acting career, they make you a better actor.
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  They make your time more productive because you have to
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  be. You have no choice but to be
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  productive and efficient. And it's not just like yourself
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  anymore. You're not like, well, I'll pay
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  the rent or I'll eat ramen and crackers and whatever you're
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  like, oh, I have to feed and like raise this human.
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  It's not just. Such a good point.
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  Yeah, I got to figure it out for this.
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  Other person to make money? Yeah.
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  It's so true. It makes you work harder and
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  smarter in in that like you're not, you know, I I remember
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  doing so many things that looking back were a complete
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  waste of my time, but I was doing like I used to do.
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  I actually probably shouldn't say because I don't want to hurt
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  anyone's feelings if they're listening, but certain acting
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  things where at looking back I'm like that led to nothing.
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  Yeah, you know. What I'm talking?
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  Yeah, we've all been there. Been there.
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  And I'm like, I would never do that now as a mom, Like never,
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  you know, if they're not paying me.
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  But and then by the way, as an actor, you do have to do certain
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  things for free, of course, but it would be you're being more
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  picky now because you're a mom, you know, you're not just saying
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  yes to things that don't matter. Yeah.
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  Do you feel like the point that you started your family, the
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  point you were in your career when you started your family,
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  were you like, how is this like momentum going to keep going?
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  Were there any worries about like, yeah, so do you have to be
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  a couple pregnant and then you got to do.
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  All of that, A couple interesting things happen.
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  That's also a good question. Basically, I started trying at
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  32 to get pregnant, so which is also not that old.
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  It's a good age, but we couldn't get pregnant, which is why we
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  finally did IVF and then at 37 got pregnant.
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  So at that point I was like, who cares?
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  Like I definitely does not matter because I'm so desperate.
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  But at 32, I was slightly worried because I had just
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  started booking guest stars and I had really good momentum and
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  I'm like, oh gosh, what is this going to do?
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  And then as time went on for me not getting pregnant, I was
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  like, OK, this doesn't matter. Like I kind of got to not worry
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  about that First things first. But but then when I got
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  pregnant, I, I felt like there was a huge shift right before
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  that. So I got pregnant in 2017 and
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  had the baby in 2018. So right around then, I'd say
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  2017, you start to notice a lot more celebrities doing TV and
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  taking those jobs that used to be people, maybe you, that
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  weren't celebrities, right. Like one of my really good
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  friends was constantly a series regular on shows.
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  All of a sudden she was being kind of demoted to guest star,
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  which meant I was getting demoted to costar.
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  Yeah. Like I haven't had a good guest
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  star audition probably since then, you know?
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  And so it just kind of was what was happening in the industry.
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  And then my son, when he was born 1 1/2 years later, the
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  pandemic. So then that was like railroad
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  tracks to everything. And I was sort of pregnant with
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  my second one at the perfect time because nothing was
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  happening, right? Which is why I went into social
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  media too. And.
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  Now it's been just kind of crazy.
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  Anything, anything can happen. Knows.
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  What's happening? Yeah, but I was gonna ask you
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  about the social media of it as well cuz you're very active and
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  love your content and so many questions of like getting that
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  started. How did you even?
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  Let's start with that. Well, OK, good question.
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  I had a platform kind of from Miraculous Ladybug, yes, from
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  being the voice of Chloe. So I had like a small following,
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  I think 5000 or something, and the pandemic happened.
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  I was sort of bored here. OK, let me take a step back and
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  say here's the thing. The reason I was hesitant to
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  start my motherhood is because I did think once I have babies,
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  that's all I'm going to do. I'm only going to want to be a
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  mom. All of my desires are going to
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  go away. That did not happen.
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  I was afraid of that as well. I was like, if I have a kid I'm
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  only going to want to stare at them and be with them all day.
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  It's like, oh, turns out, I mean, yes, do also that, but I'm
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  still a human and still huh, turns out moms are human.
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  Interesting. And your desires for other
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  things don't just go away. No, like I was, I spent 37 years
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  doing creative outlets, you know, And so I really was
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  starting to feel that like I need a creative outlet.
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  Like I can't do theatre anymore. That's out the window.
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  I love doing theatre for years, but with kids it's really
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  impossible unless you're that's your job.
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  Like you're a theater actress who gets paid enough to make
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  that your job. Yeah, especially in LA.
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  Unfortunately, usually not the case.
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  It's. Usually not the case.
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  It'd be great if it was. It would be in LA.
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  Sadly, the theaters that pay the most, except for the Geffen and
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  maybe downtown are far like Orange County, you know?
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  So anyway, that was out of the question.
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  And so I just, I also kind of did stand up with my first, but
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  that was also hard with two. I, I did do it with two, but
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  that became impossible with three.
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  I was like, no, so those creative outlets were gone.
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  So then I thought, gosh, I'm seeing all this mom comedy on
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  social media. I love social media.
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  I'm always on it anyway. I might as well start doing it.
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  And I look back at my first stuff and it's very cringy and
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  very like, I never took it down because it's a good reminder of
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  like where you came from. But also, like I said, I had
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  this platform anyway. So I'm like, I want to use that.
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  And I remember telling my best friend, I'm like, I just want to
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  see if I can make $10,000 this year with just social media.
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  Yeah, I don't know. I don't even as somebody who
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  like is has a podcast and trying to do social media, I'm like, I
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  don't even like. Where do you start?
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  Where do you like that's such a hard?
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  Not that you have to give us a lesson, but that's such like a
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  hard like it's you're, it's you're on your own and you what
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  you are you just like Youtubing and Googling and like figuring
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  it out on. Your just figuring out.
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  I tend not to do that. I have I I but the first.
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  Year, sorry to interrupt you, but the first year having 10,000
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  as like you're like that is looking, I mean.
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  It's a dream, big moment, I know.
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  I love. This is classic me, though.
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  I always do this. I'm like, I'm going to move to
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  LM and be on a show. Of course it wasn't the show I
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  thought I would be on a sitcom. I ended up on Miraculous, which
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  is great, but it's like, you know, just changes a little.
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  I did not grow as big as I I mean, I still would love to have
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  grown more. I do think people that the mom
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  space is hard because we have kids and we don't want to.
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  I I never want it to be overshadowing them.
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  Like my first priority is them, you know, but if I had done this
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  before kids, that's my little like, Dang it, I could have
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  probably grown faster. But anyway, it is what it is.
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  But I was proud of myself because I did reach that goal of
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  10,000 the first year. And my other goal was to get
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  10,000 followers so that I could get.
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  Remember I used to have that swipe up link if you had 10,000
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  followers. Yeah.
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  That was my goal too. So I got those and I was really
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  happy. But I worked really hard.
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  I didn't do looking back, like you said, I should have done
• 19:15
  more research and like maybe hired a coach.
• 19:17
  Or something. It seemed to work out.
• 19:19
  I just sort of threw spaghetti at the wall to see what stuck
• 19:22
  and. Did you make like did you create
• 19:27
  your own income through? Brand yes, So what I did was I
• 19:35
  just. And then did you?
• 19:36
  Reach out to them. I would just reach out to them
• 19:38
  and I did. So I shouldn't say I didn't do
• 19:41
  any research. I asked a few of my friends who
• 19:43
  were doing it like how do you do this?
• 19:44
  What do you do? And they kind of gave me tips
• 19:46
  here and there. I had this one friend send me
• 19:48
  like what she sends to brands and then I kind of like copied
• 19:52
  her media kit and made my own based on hers like that.
• 19:57
  And then probably about a year later, I did start to get
• 20:00
  serious once I started getting some money in.
• 20:02
  And I hired this girl who through the Internet, like I
• 20:05
  just saw her videos and I saw she had a social media agency.
• 20:07
  And I was like, I want her to help me.
• 20:10
  She's really funny. I'm going to see if I can hire
• 20:12
  her. And she took me on even though
• 20:14
  she never takes on. She like represents restaurants
• 20:17
  or whatever. You know.
• 20:17
  Oh, OK. Yeah, Took.
• 20:18
  Me on as an influencer and now we're like really good friends
• 20:22
  and we do all the boy mom, girl mom content together.
• 20:25
  Yes, yes, yes. But she's amazing and she sort
• 20:28
  of became a coach type person for me.
• 20:30
  Are you talking about Siggy? Not Siggy Lauren.
• 20:33
  So yeah, Sticky and I do the boy mom and stuff too.
• 20:35
  Yeah, but Lauren does the girl mom and Lauren, Lauren Romero at
• 20:41
  Lauren Romero. But she's amazing.
• 20:43
  And so she, that was about a year in, I started working with
• 20:45
  her to and she taught me so much.
• 20:48
  Yeah, I think like every year I've learned more.
• 20:51
  It just changes all the time too, because it's it's a
• 20:54
  changing industry. And I think actually Hollywood
• 20:58
  is going, you know, with the verticals and that it's just the
• 21:02
  same thing is going to happen. Yeah.
• 21:03
  So now with OK, so are you older 2IN school I've seen the
• 21:09
  seven-year. Oldest.
• 21:11
  Yeah, and how about the 2 year old?
• 21:14
  Is he at? He's no, no, he's still at home,
• 21:17
  I know. And he is going to start in the
• 21:20
  fall, I think. But I did finally hire a nanny
• 21:24
  with my third. So that was another thing too,
• 21:26
  because the social media kind of took off as a business like
• 21:29
  we're talking about. So I needed help.
• 21:31
  I couldn't. Again, the like growing and
• 21:33
  with. Yes.
• 21:34
  Age and more success yeah getting the resources where it's
• 21:38
  like OK 1/3 kid like. Yes, you need help.
• 21:43
  Yeah, exactly. I know and thank God I had done
• 21:46
  this job through social media, but it was also because I was an
• 21:49
  actor. Like anyway, it was a posting
• 21:51
  job that what paid so much that I could finally afford to hire a
• 21:57
  nanny, hire some help. But it was nice because I, I
• 22:00
  realized I'm like, I do need help with three, you know, and
• 22:03
  it's just, it's really hard. How?
• 22:05
  Did you find as a as someone who grew up with kids or who nannied
• 22:12
  yourself, how did you find it? Hiring someone because I feel
• 22:18
  strange just because and I usually just have my friend
• 22:24
  babysit honestly. But like we have I'm.
• 22:27
  Like. You can do this, but like there
• 22:30
  is a young girl, not that I have a nanny, but like there's a
• 22:33
  young girl who I'm like, well, you can babysit, but I feel like
• 22:37
  we're the same age and we are not.
• 22:39
  She's like my younger. Oh, she's.
• 22:41
  Like. 23 I'm like, oh, we're the same.
• 22:45
  So how how is it for you like hiring someone I know or like,
• 22:51
  have you been that far like removed from it had been so long
• 22:56
  since nannying that like you're like?
• 22:59
  No, OK, so it that's a really good I I, it has been hard
• 23:04
  because I think what's hard is because I'm home a lot like, you
• 23:08
  know, like it's awkward, like if I was going to an office.
• 23:12
  But now I've gotten into a rhythm.
• 23:14
  I actually have two different I call them mothers helpers
• 23:17
  because they're not really with the kids as much, but they're
• 23:20
  doing all the other stuff. So I have time to do my work
• 23:22
  when the kids are at school or sleeping, you know?
• 23:25
  So like this morning, for example, I'll take the baby to
• 23:28
  the park, but she's home doing the laundry.
• 23:31
  Oh I love. That though that's nice because.
• 23:34
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, but I do think it does get
• 23:39
  really tricky when you have been the nanny and also you feel so
• 23:43
  guilty. Like I feel like I don't know
• 23:46
  that mom guilt is just really gets to me.
• 23:48
  Yeah, and isn't it strange, though, when you hire someone to
• 23:54
  help you and like say like I'll hire someone once in a blue moon
• 24:01
  to clean my apartment and I'm like, I feel like that, but it's
• 24:05
  like it's their job. Like I shouldn't feel weird
• 24:08
  about it. Like it's their job.
• 24:11
  Also like I don't want to make it weird but like depending on
• 24:15
  how I mean. Yeah, it's.
• 24:17
  Yeah, the whole thing is. The whole thing exactly well, it
• 24:21
  depends it the girl. So the two mothers helpers the
• 24:24
  one does Monday Tuesday one does Wednesday Thursday, the
• 24:26
  Wednesday Thursday is really young 22 and I stopped hiring
• 24:31
  young people because I felt weird about asking them to do
• 24:33
  like my laundry and fold my underwear.
• 24:36
  You know, like I was like, oh, but I, you reach a point where I
• 24:40
  just have like a she's amazing, by the way.
• 24:42
  Like she's just one of those hard, hard workers and she's
• 24:46
  putting herself through nursing school.
• 24:47
  Like she's just incredible. And I said to her, I'm like,
• 24:50
  listen, this is the job. Like, I'm not gonna hold back
• 24:53
  and tell you what you're gonna need to do.
• 24:54
  Well, yeah. And it's like, as long as they
• 24:56
  know, like, yeah, straight out the bat, it's not like, oh, hey,
• 25:00
  come watch my kids. And they're like, actually, can
• 25:02
  you? Fold my underwear.
• 25:03
  You have to be straight out. Exactly.
• 25:05
  Yeah, from the beginning, this is.
• 25:07
  And that was a mistake I made in the past with younger people
• 25:10
  because I didn't know what I needed.
• 25:11
  And so I'd be like, I'm going to be late.
• 25:13
  Can you do this? And and then they would get
• 25:15
  resentful because they're like, that's not in my job
• 25:17
  description. You know, I was just babysitting
• 25:18
  and playing with your kid, you know, like, OK, never mind.
• 25:21
  Another good thing with comes with age.
• 25:23
  Exactly. Just being able to.
• 25:25
  Do that. Do that.
• 25:26
  Yeah, that's true. I'm going to pause us and just
• 25:28
  make sure we're. I know.
• 25:30
  Oh gosh, we'll do it all over again.
• 25:35
  Yay. OK, but that is a good and yes,
• 25:39
  all right. Reset, reset.
• 25:46
  OK, can I ask, so you're home and mostly working from home and
• 25:50
  stuff. What does your can I?
• 25:52
  What does your husband do? Yeah, he, it's very odd career.
• 25:55
  It's he's a hotel broker. OK, but he's not at home.
• 25:59
  No, he's not home, thank God. That was hard in the pandemic
• 26:03
  when everyone like. But you made it through.
• 26:06
  We made it. We only had 1 1/2 kids at that
• 26:09
  point. The baby doesn't have no.
• 26:12
  I don't know how people did it with kids like my age, the kids
• 26:15
  I have now, I mean, if they were home for two years like that,
• 26:18
  that's insane. I know.
• 26:20
  Well, isn't it awful because I didn't have my daughter when my
• 26:27
  sister had younger kids when the pandemic happened.
• 26:31
  So they were like 1 was I guess just like 1.
• 26:36
  And the other one was like in like kindergarten doing like
• 26:40
  schooling stuff too. And I was like, oh, I really
• 26:43
  should have checked on you more like, and it's like, you don't
• 26:46
  know what you don't know. I feel the same way of like all
• 26:49
  my friends who had kids way before me and I'm like you guys
• 26:52
  did all this and weren't like, I mean I was like Oh my God and
• 26:58
  you've done it how many times? I was like some of you got like
• 27:02
  4 kids. I was like, wait, what?
• 27:05
  I know I'm so blessed because my best friend had kids before me.
• 27:09
  Actually, both of my best friends did.
• 27:11
  And so they, like, spoiled me when I had my baby, you know?
• 27:14
  Yeah, that's so great. But I did nothing for them I
• 27:17
  think. No, you're like, I'll just reap
• 27:19
  the benefits of you guys already being yeah moms.
• 27:22
  Oh, my gosh. OK, so your husband's hotel.
• 27:25
  Broker, yes. So he sells hotels, I think big
• 27:29
  fancy hotels not, but yeah, that's his, that's his career,
• 27:32
  which is good. One of us needs a normal job.
• 27:34
  How did you? Guys, I know, right?
• 27:36
  Isn't that like I'm always like? Although.
• 27:39
  Didn't intend on marrying an actor.
• 27:41
  You know what though, it's good and bad.
• 27:42
  There's pros and cons to everything cuz I have.
• 27:44
  Right. So I'm curious, yeah, what?
• 27:47
  What are? Those pros and cons for you
• 27:48
  guys? Yeah, because I see a lot of my
• 27:50
  actor friends who are married to actors or people in the industry
• 27:53
  that maybe they work, you know, six months and then they have
• 27:55
  six months off. What's hard with kids is like, I
• 27:58
  can't rely on him. It's just I cannot ask him to
• 28:02
  pick up kids from school and he cannot leave the office, you
• 28:05
  know, like he is there from pretty much 8 to 8.
• 28:08
  Like, it's not like, yeah, yeah. So I'm.
• 28:12
  Like, Oh my God, which is. All.
• 28:13
  Real. Well, and by the way, that was
• 28:16
  with baby #3 he switched job basically, not to give you his
• 28:20
  whole career summary, but because the pandemic and he was
• 28:23
  home, he could stop and help me put him to bed or whatever.
• 28:26
  But then when he went back to the office and got this other
• 28:28
  new job, he was completely unavailable.
• 28:31
  And that's when I realized with baby #3 I'm like, I need help.
• 28:33
  Like I can't do this. This is killing me.
• 28:35
  Even if I didn't have outside ambitions, which I did.
• 28:38
  I can't, yeah, I can't imagine. Yeah, so it's just a lot of solo
• 28:42
  parenting. He travels a lot too, and when
• 28:45
  he's home, he's amazing. It is what it is.
• 28:47
  That's his job, you know? Well, and I can't imagine people
• 28:50
  who have both parents I know like that, which is most people
• 28:56
  aren't in. Yeah, yeah, which is just wild.
• 28:59
  It is such a blessing to have careers like ours where you it's
• 29:04
  a. Little more flexible.
• 29:06
  Yeah, it's very flexible. But then again, yeah, pros and
• 29:09
  cons. There's pros and cons.
• 29:10
  It's obviously you can't rely on this study income, whatever, but
• 29:13
  it's also like they could be there and help with bedtime
• 29:16
  every night, you know, whatever. Yeah, that'd.
• 29:18
  Be great. Yeah, OK, so going back to you
• 29:21
  starting to make your own content and that first year
• 29:25
  really hitting those goals for yourself.
• 29:30
  How has it been like since then being able like now having three
• 29:36
  and like keeping up with it? I'm like, I can barely do any.
• 29:40
  Like I can barely do an Instagram story and my kids and
• 29:43
  I got 1 and she's at school all day.
• 29:44
  I'm like, how do you keep up with the creative side, but also
• 29:50
  like the energy and like when you do it, like do you have a
• 29:56
  schedule to yourself for yourself?
• 29:58
  Do you? Yeah.
• 30:00
  Pretty much what? Do you, what do I do?
• 30:02
  I know it's hard. I try to post every day and I
• 30:06
  try to batch content so that it's like ready to go, but then
• 30:09
  things change other, you know, whatever.
• 30:12
  And the other thing that I really get behind on and I would
• 30:15
  love to find someone to help me with is the editing, 'cause I'll
• 30:18
  have all of the content on my phone.
• 30:21
  Yeah, just like I need someone to go in my brain and know how
• 30:23
  to edit this. You know, that's really hard,
• 30:26
  but you just do it. I feel like I've got I, I get
• 30:29
  into a rhythm where I'm like, you know, edit three reels and
• 30:33
  then they're ready for the next three days.
• 30:34
  I wish I could be even farther ahead, but I'm not a lot.
• 30:38
  And then I also to stay on top of it.
• 30:40
  Like with Siggy, for example, we'll schedule a con or Lauren,
• 30:43
  we'll do content shoots where we shoot like four or five reels.
• 30:47
  So I know I have something ready to go for the next month at
• 30:49
  least. Well, and that's nice because as
• 30:52
  you have other people that benefit from it and that are
• 30:55
  also like proactive with it as well 'cause that's where I start
• 31:02
  going. I'm like, oh, it's just.
• 31:03
  Me. And I feel stupid doing things
• 31:08
  by myself, but it's like, you can't.
• 31:09
  I mean, you just, if that's what you want to do, you just kind
• 31:12
  of. You gotta just do it well, and
• 31:15
  it is true when I was doing it by myself because remember the
• 31:18
  collab thing on Instagram didn't start until what, like a year?
• 31:22
  Maybe. Yeah, it seems pretty recent.
• 31:23
  A year and a half, I don't know. Very recent.
• 31:26
  So you're right. I was by myself for a long time.
• 31:28
  Oh, I did have. I forgot about this in the
• 31:31
  beginning when I first was starting to do this, I had this
• 31:33
  amazing babysitter who just was like young and understood social
• 31:38
  media way more than I did. Oh, that's nice.
• 31:40
  And she taught me so much. Aubrey, if you're listening,
• 31:43
  it's you. And she was just so good at
• 31:46
  editing and everything. So she would shoot me while she
• 31:48
  was babysitting and perfect later like I would I would pay
• 31:53
  her to edit later but she because she was shooting it she
• 31:56
  knew what she was editing which was so helpful.
• 31:59
  So I'm trying to convince her to come back but but I'm like you
• 32:03
  don't have to do the babysitting part just shoot me and edit me.
• 32:06
  Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, that's always nice that.
• 32:08
  Was great. That helped me learn too.
• 32:10
  So then when she couldn't work for me, she'd got another job.
• 32:13
  Then I knew what to do. You know what I mean?
• 32:14
  It like it set me up for it was almost like having a coach a
• 32:17
  little bit. Do you?
• 32:19
  I would assume it helps the like energy and like the actual doing
• 32:29
  of it if you're getting paid or like if yeah, cuz not, I mean,
• 32:35
  obviously not all of your content is branding content for
• 32:39
  sure, but like I assume that that helps where you can.
• 32:44
  Do you think of it now more as an an actual job as opposed to
• 32:49
  just like it's doing this to do it?
• 32:51
  Yes, exactly. It's my job.
• 32:53
  And the thing about the money aspect is really interesting
• 32:56
  because now I'm monetizing from views so I don't have to do
• 33:01
  brand deals because actually I love brand deals, especially if
• 33:04
  I'm obsessed with the product already.
• 33:06
  But if I'm not obsessed with it, like the, it's a new company,
• 33:09
  for example, sends me something I've never heard of.
• 33:11
  It's not that I'm not into it. I actually don't ever say yes if
• 33:14
  I don't think I'll be into it, right.
• 33:15
  But that being said, it's very hard to like come up with a
• 33:19
  concept. It's like you're the marketing
• 33:21
  department, you're the writer, you're the editor, you're the
• 33:23
  book. It's really hard.
• 33:25
  But when you're just doing comedy and then you get paid
• 33:27
  because your views, that's so much more fun.
• 33:30
  That's so interesting. And now there's so many other
• 33:33
  ways to monetize through links, through TikTok shop I'm on, and
• 33:38
  all these other monetizing on Facebook and YouTube and you
• 33:41
  know, all these things. I'm gonna have to, yeah, give me
• 33:44
  a master class. Give you a master class.
• 33:46
  Somebody said they're like you should teach a master class like
• 33:48
  do. AI mean right?
• 33:49
  I feel like there's so many. People that have done that, but
• 33:51
  yeah, it's, it's really true that it's more fun to do it when
• 33:55
  it's not like a brand collab per SE, because there's just, I feel
• 33:59
  like there's more pressure on a brick club.
• 34:01
  Like, you gotta get this right, you know, to.
• 34:02
  Get all the the keywords. Exactly.
• 34:05
  Yeah, they send all the brief and you're like, OK, I could do
• 34:08
  it. Yeah, without, like, sounding
• 34:11
  like a robot because there are a few people.
• 34:13
  When you watch, you're like, oh, you're reading or.
• 34:16
  Exactly. Or for me like to commercially
• 34:20
  as an actor, that was really hard.
• 34:21
  I still look at some of my stuff and like, oh, I was way too
• 34:24
  much. Like I'm in a commercial, you
• 34:26
  know I'm telling you. That, yeah, it's, I mean that's
• 34:29
  hard cuz I mean, it is a commercial, but it's not.
• 34:32
  And then and getting your followers, I mean, just to trust
• 34:37
  you to know that like, hey, my followers are actually gonna
• 34:41
  like click on this and like use it cuz they trust you.
• 34:46
  Which is, which is. Key cuz there are some people I
• 34:50
  can follow and be like, oh, they're gonna like try and sell
• 34:55
  like something that's crazy expensive or like that doesn't
• 34:59
  actually work where it's like as opposed to like people that you
• 35:02
  feel like you can trust and like.
• 35:05
  That's it's so true. Well, and helpful actually.
• 35:08
  That is why. So Amazon, being an Amazon
• 35:11
  influencer has been a game changer for most influencers
• 35:15
  because now we could just post things we actually use.
• 35:18
  Like I put something up this morning.
• 35:19
  I'm like, I love stuff like I just poured in my coffee.
• 35:22
  Yeah, right. Like I actually use this
• 35:24
  everyday and you should too because it's awesome, you know,
• 35:27
  Whereas sometimes you're like, I think you'll use this.
• 35:31
  It seems really cool, maybe I don't.
• 35:37
  OK, so have you always done voice over also?
• 35:41
  Yes, so my voice over career was interesting because I I had like
• 35:45
  80 jobs in college, like being Annie was one of them.
• 35:47
  But I also taught singing lessons at this music school.
• 35:51
  So one of my students, he was like probably 40.
• 35:54
  Like, at the time, I thought he was so old, you know, like this
• 35:57
  older guy, he had owned a recording studio and he wanted
• 36:02
  to learn singing. So I was teaching him singing
• 36:05
  and he said, hey, would you ever want to come in and dub anime?
• 36:08
  Because I get I have a contract with this anime production
• 36:11
  company and it's in Japanese, and you could dub it into
• 36:14
  English for me, be one of the actors.
• 36:16
  And I was like, yeah, that sounds so fun.
• 36:18
  I didn't even know it was going to be paid.
• 36:20
  Like that sounds really cool, but it was paid.
• 36:22
  It was awesome. Then from there I got all kinds
• 36:25
  of other little voice over jobs. They were all non union.
• 36:27
  You know, I'm in college through him and then I made a reel with
• 36:31
  him. So when I moved to Lai, sent it
• 36:34
  like word of mouth asked like who should I send it to?
• 36:37
  Send it to a couple agencies and got represented right away.
• 36:41
  Oh, that's amazing. And then I didn't book anything,
• 36:43
  of course, at all. Yeah, for like 3 years, yes.
• 36:47
  And we, I got dropped. So that was like, OK, then flash
• 36:51
  forward, I think I got another agent.
• 36:53
  Same thing got dropped then. And these were big agents.
• 36:57
  So then years, a few years past maybe, I don't know, I sent my
• 37:01
  demo to a friend who is writing on an animation and she said
• 37:05
  I'll give it to the director. She did.
• 37:08
  He cast me for like the small part in this.
• 37:10
  It was a dubbing show as he knew I dubbed and that director
• 37:15
  called me in a few years later to audition for Miraculous,
• 37:18
  another dub show, and I booked it.
• 37:22
  But we all thought it was just like another pilot that was just
• 37:25
  going to go nowhere, you know, It blew up like it was crazy.
• 37:29
  We had no idea. So it was really, I had no agent
• 37:32
  that whole time. It was just word of mouth and
• 37:35
  giving my demo to whoever would listen, I mean.
• 37:37
  Yeah, it just kind of. Yeah, but voiceover for me has
• 37:41
  been tricky because I think first of all, I have so many
• 37:45
  baskets that I didn't put all my eggs in it, you know.
• 37:49
  And so, I mean, it's like it's very voiceover is one of those
• 37:53
  things you have to only focus on that if that's what you want to
• 37:56
  do. There's just too many people and
• 37:58
  there's the same people playing most of the roles.
• 38:02
  So, and they can because they're amazing.
• 38:04
  And you don't know who's playing it because it's voiceover.
• 38:07
  So and by the way, AI is going to shake things up even more.
• 38:10
  Like who knows what's going to happen?
• 38:12
  So I did not put on my eggs in that basket.
• 38:14
  I did end up getting wrapped by WME, booked one thing with them,
• 38:19
  and then two years later got dropped by them too.
• 38:21
  So I think if I would have tried, but you still have
• 38:24
  Miraculous. I still have Miraculous and I
• 38:26
  still get booked like I did a commercial for someone recently.
• 38:29
  And yeah, I people just randomly reach out to me from time to
• 38:33
  time. Like I need to say my voice is
• 38:34
  also very specific. Yeah, I don't have those one of
• 38:38
  those voices that can do 30 million voices like I just do
• 38:41
  10. Yeah, I don't know how people
• 38:43
  do. I know all of those.
• 38:46
  I mean, yeah, the terror strongs, she's phenomenal.
• 38:50
  Like she's so good. So I don't know, I got lucky,
• 38:54
  let's just put it that way. Yeah yeah, I mean that's that's
• 38:57
  great cuz most people don't get that in like acting or voice
• 39:03
  over or anything. So just to get it once is great.
• 39:07
  Totally. OK, so did you OK, so not Oh
• 39:14
  gosh, I'm like 75, almost five and two.
• 39:19
  I'm just trying to think of like, how do you balance your
• 39:24
  time between the three because have you I mean, I feel like
• 39:32
  there's probably not an actual balance that is just a day by
• 39:35
  day. Well, what do you?
• 39:37
  That is a good question. And actually, that's what I
• 39:39
  meant to say earlier with them with the posting every day.
• 39:42
  And then I think lately I have been more like, OK, especially
• 39:47
  with summer, right? Like you want to spend time with
• 39:49
  the kids and this is you only get whatever they say 17
• 39:52
  summers. And you know, it's so sad.
• 39:53
  And then when they're teenagers, they're not going to want to
• 39:55
  hang out with you. So I'm trying to be like, it's
• 39:59
  OK if I don't post every day. It's OK if I miss a day of doing
• 40:03
  my links or whatever. Like it does not matter.
• 40:05
  Thank God we are blessed enough to be in a situation where the
• 40:08
  money. Isn't going to make or break us.
• 40:11
  My husband has a real job. Yeah, yeah.
• 40:13
  But I also realized when I was talking to my friend about this,
• 40:16
  when I sometimes, because it's not a nine to five where I go
• 40:20
  into the office and I'm sort of doing it in the cracks, it can
• 40:23
  shift my focus where I'm like with the kids.
• 40:25
  But I'm thinking about what I need to do or how I could do
• 40:28
  this edit better or whatever, instead of being like leaving
• 40:32
  the work in the office. That's what's really hard.
• 40:34
  And so I'm trying to be better about that, especially leaving
• 40:37
  the phone in the other room, which is hard because I want to
• 40:40
  take pictures or whatever. Like, yeah, she's a real camera
• 40:43
  anyway, that's another subject. But yeah, like, it's really hard
• 40:47
  to to split the focus. And I'm really trying to work on
• 40:50
  that to stay present and to really love these moments with
• 40:54
  them. Because at the end of the day,
• 40:55
  when I'm on my deathbed, I'm not going to be thinking, boy, I'm
• 40:58
  so glad I got that brand deal or I'm so glad I reached 100K.
• 41:01
  Like, yeah, it's not going to matter, you know, but.
• 41:06
  But it is hard because it does matter in the moment.
• 41:08
  Like now with like, yeah, I mean just like having an income and
• 41:14
  all that. But.
• 41:15
  But I do understand what you're saying, especially because like
• 41:19
  your content being a lot about being a mom, like shifting that
• 41:26
  of like, oh, this could be good content.
• 41:30
  Like. Your kids because you don't.
• 41:32
  I mean, you share. Yeah, I was like you share,
• 41:35
  you've shared your kids, but not like.
• 41:38
  In the social. Media way like yeah, not in
• 41:42
  like. They're not doing TikTok dances.
• 41:44
  Yeah, yeah. First of all, they don't want
• 41:46
  to. Like, I don't know how these
• 41:49
  families, like you see the family Instagramers seems like I
• 41:52
  do not know how they do that. I don't.
• 41:54
  I physically can't even do it. If I try like they won't do it.
• 41:57
  I mean go for them. I feel like if your kid enjoys,
• 42:01
  I don't know, I'm split. You see these families, they're
• 42:04
  like 5-6, seven kids and they're all like in the same outfit
• 42:07
  doing this. Where would I tell him even if I
• 42:09
  want this? I'm kind of like, what's going
• 42:12
  on? I know it's.
• 42:13
  What's going on there? I mean, if it's if it's working
• 42:16
  for you and it's and everyone's totally well and happy, great,
• 42:19
  that's amazing. But are they?
• 42:21
  Are they? There are.
• 42:22
  Times no judgement no. Judgement, but really no.
• 42:25
  And I used to listen like I was that mom when they were little.
• 42:29
  You'll go back in my feed. You can see I used them all all
• 42:31
  the time in sketches, but then they reached an age like 3 where
• 42:34
  they're like, they have the choice.
• 42:36
  I'm not doing it. And I'm like, OK, like I didn't
• 42:38
  feel like I could force them. That's crazy.
• 42:40
  Now I do sometimes. Like my friend was just laughing
• 42:43
  because I was on another podcast.
• 42:45
  Anyway, I forgot he was. I'm like, who's asking me that?
• 42:48
  But they basically, we did get a vacation like pay for I know.
• 42:53
  So I'm like, you guys just jump. OK, just jump.
• 42:56
  That's all I'm asking so I can have a transition.
• 42:59
  So they did the jump. But in the video you'll see if
• 43:02
  you go back and look the my oldest is just like bad, you
• 43:05
  know, attitude barely Hobbs barely jumps at all like lazy
• 43:09
  body. You know that's good for him.
• 43:11
  I'm like, whatever, I'm cared for him.
• 43:14
  It's so funny, hilarious. But that's so nice that like
• 43:19
  you're having those opportunities, yes, and you can
• 43:23
  share those things regardless. Of thing, I'm like, you guys
• 43:26
  just jump for a second, one second.
• 43:28
  I could take you to Lego for free.
• 43:32
  I know, right? Isn't it?
• 43:33
  That's like, what's the caveat? It is the caveat, and I try not
• 43:37
  to do that anymore. Like, yeah, like you said, I
• 43:39
  rarely do use them. I'll share them.
• 43:41
  And my stories are like, oh, they graduated kindergarten or
• 43:44
  whatever. But like, I, I don't know.
• 43:46
  I feel bad. Like I feel guilty because I
• 43:48
  know they don't want to do it. So I really try not to if I can.
• 43:52
  Sometimes they do want to, by the way.
• 43:55
  They're done. Yeah.
• 43:56
  Yeah. There have been a few times
• 43:58
  where like my oldest is obsessed with Legos and he'll be like,
• 44:01
  come on, make a video and put it on YouTube about how I took this
• 44:03
  Lego. You know, like even like show
• 44:05
  off about. I'm like, OK, now you want to be
• 44:07
  on. Yeah, I mean, isn't it funny too
• 44:09
  how kids will be so many kids now?
• 44:13
  They'll be like take a video of me and they're like, I know.
• 44:16
  So today I'm doing like and subscribe and you're like.
• 44:19
  No, I know. Don't.
• 44:21
  Like why are you have? Like, good for you, I know.
• 44:24
  It's so funny and strange and strange, I know, but it is.
• 44:28
  I'm so glad though, all that said that I did do all those
• 44:31
  videos when they're babies because it's like a personal
• 44:34
  scrapbook like and now they go and ask me.
• 44:38
  They're like show us our videos. So I go and I actually hit them
• 44:42
  all on TikTok because I didn't know if TikTok was going away.
• 44:45
  So they're like in my archive. So I'm showing them all on my
• 44:48
  private TikTok and they just love them.
• 44:51
  It's really cute, so. Fun.
• 44:53
  Have they showed any interest in like?
• 44:56
  Not really. I know which is good probably,
• 44:59
  but it's also like just do one commercial you can make it.
• 45:04
  To right yeah, yeah, that's hard cuz it's like if your kid can if
• 45:08
  they enjoy it and they can make money or if it's like before
• 45:11
  they're older. Before they know the difference
• 45:13
  exactly. And they can make the money and
• 45:15
  put it away and all that. We like kind of tried that.
• 45:20
  They didn't book anything. But.
• 45:22
  But now it's like at the age where like, yeah, she has her
• 45:25
  own I. Know you can't make them.
• 45:27
  For sure and I'm like, was she cuz our agents would like yeah,
• 45:31
  my give us stuff and I was like, not like just not gonna do it.
• 45:35
  I was like, she. I'm not gonna update her picture
• 45:38
  until like at this point I'm like, I'll wait until she.
• 45:42
  Wants to now, I guess I do have them all up with my agent and I
• 45:46
  put their I do do head shots with them only because it's it's
• 45:50
  cute and it's with my guy who's like super cheap and I can knock
• 45:53
  him out. But I mica my middle one is the
• 45:57
  one that kind of he just like kind of goes along and and does
• 46:01
  ham it up a little. So I think he might be a little
• 46:03
  interesting, but he doesn't like but so he actually enjoys it or
• 46:06
  he at least doesn't hate it, but like as well.
• 46:09
  My oldest hates it and ironically, everybody loves him.
• 46:14
  They call him back every time. He has this amazing voice and
• 46:18
  smile and personality. Smart as a whip.
• 46:20
  He had this bold and beautiful audition.
• 46:22
  He memorized my part and his part, it was 5 pages like in a
• 46:25
  second. I mean, he's crazy smart.
• 46:26
  It's crazy. So I'm like, oh, you don't know
• 46:30
  what a gift you have. And he's like, I don't want to
• 46:32
  do it. And I'm like, you get off
• 46:34
  school, you get all the snacks you want.
• 46:36
  And he was like, OK, I'll go. He's like, can I drink
• 46:41
  Coca-Cola? I'm like, yeah, probably.
• 46:43
  I mean, I'll still be there on set with you, but yes.
• 46:45
  Oh my God, that's so funny. I love it.
• 46:48
  It's. So funny, but he'll probably
• 46:50
  not. I mean, I'm sure he will not
• 46:51
  want to do it but. Well, and that's the thing with
• 46:53
  like both you, like you and your husband like having different
• 46:58
  career paths. It's like, yeah, they can do
• 47:01
  whatever they want. It's nice to for them to see you
• 47:04
  and like you can do. Like.
• 47:07
  This and be creative and follow your dreams and all this and
• 47:10
  then also you can do whatever you want.
• 47:14
  It's like you can have a yeah, it's nice that they can see.
• 47:17
  Yes. Oh my.
• 47:18
  It can be a normal. It can be a normal human.
• 47:20
  It's so true, yeah. It's good to have the options
• 47:23
  and to which. All kids do, but.
• 47:26
  Yeah. Nice for them to see you with
• 47:28
  both parents. Exactly.
• 47:30
  And I don't know about you, but like, my parents weren't in the
• 47:33
  industry, so they didn't know what to advise me or, you know,
• 47:37
  like, I had no idea, moved here not knowing anyone, you know,
• 47:40
  except my best friends. But like, it wasn't like they
• 47:44
  knew to say, hey, go take these casting workshops and get your
• 47:47
  headshot done with this person. Yeah.
• 47:48
  But if they are kids, well, no, you'll have a little leg up in
• 47:52
  that way if they want to do it, you know.
• 47:54
  So that's nice, that. Is nice.
• 47:55
  Well, you've obviously said about like the having kids
• 47:59
  definitely only like enhances you as an as a person and
• 48:03
  creator and actor and all the things.
• 48:07
  What would you say to somebody who is younger and in the
• 48:12
  industry thinking of starting a family but worried it will like
• 48:18
  hold them back? What do you?
• 48:19
  Think do it, don't worry about it like that is my biggest
• 48:23
  regret. And again, there were a lot of
• 48:24
  things out of my control that, you know, but I just feel like
• 48:29
  you just makes you such a bigger, better person.
• 48:34
  Yeah, a fuller person. The things I used to obsess over
• 48:38
  with acting me, it was my whole world.
• 48:40
  And it's silly to me now that it was.
• 48:42
  I book all the time since having kids.
• 48:45
  All the time, actually. My booking ratio went way up
• 48:47
  since having kids because you don't have that when you come
• 48:51
  into an audition remote. Granted, everything is on tape
• 48:53
  now, but when we used to go in, I didn't, they couldn't smell
• 48:56
  the desperation anymore because it wasn't there.
• 48:59
  I didn't have it. I have something else I care way
• 49:01
  more about, you know, like. You just like after this
• 49:04
  audition, I'm not going to think about it.
• 49:06
  I have. I don't have time to think about
• 49:07
  it. Exactly.
• 49:09
  Whereas before I, I mean, it was crazy how much of it controlled
• 49:13
  me, you know, So I just, yeah, I would say do it.
• 49:16
  And also because we had such a trouble getting pregnant.
• 49:20
  I, I think like I tell every young person this go to a
• 49:23
  reproductive specialist, get checked out.
• 49:26
  Don't assume you're going to be fertile, Myrtle.
• 49:29
  Yeah, yeah, it's hard. You think like, you know, all
• 49:34
  these people, like you think it'll be easy.
• 49:38
  And then sometimes you think it'll be hard and then you never
• 49:41
  know which one you're going to, which one you're going to get.
• 49:44
  Because I had asked like my doctor before even ever trying.
• 49:48
  I was like, am I going to be able to do this?
• 49:51
  They're like, have you tried? And I'm like, no.
• 49:54
  And they're like, well, why don't you try it?
• 49:55
  I was. Like no, no, no.
• 49:56
  Yeah. So yeah, you never know.
• 49:59
  But yeah, looking back, being like, I do see what people do it
• 50:02
  young, where you're talking about like the timeline of
• 50:05
  everything, where you're like, Oh, my parents are getting old
• 50:08
  and. And then you don't get to be a
• 50:11
  mom as long. That's the other thing.
• 50:13
  Like, I know it's kind of sad. Who was it?
• 50:16
  Somebody was telling me recently that somebody was a grandma and
• 50:22
  they were like 50. And I was like, what?
• 50:24
  I was like, that seems. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 50:26
  I was like, that's disturbing. And then I was like, wait, no,
• 50:29
  both people would be some like appropriate age.
• 50:33
  That's totally. Totally.
• 50:35
  Fine, but it seems. I know.
• 50:38
  Yeah, right. My own grandma was a grandma at
• 50:41
  46. I know because she started
• 50:44
  getting my brothers got pregnant.
• 50:46
  Really. Yeah, it's like, I mean, but
• 50:48
  then you're like, what? You get to see you could be a
• 50:51
  great grandparent. And it's like, oh, I don't, I'm
• 50:54
  not. Going to Oh yeah, I should have
• 50:55
  said my great grandma was a great no, she's grandma at 44.
• 50:58
  And then, yeah, great grandma at 64.
• 51:00
  That's crazy. I think it was.
• 51:02
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So start young.
• 51:04
  Start. Yeah, I plant the seeds, by the
• 51:06
  way. I'm always like with my boys.
• 51:08
  I'm like, so if you want mommy to help you with your kids one
• 51:10
  day, better get married at 23, have babies by 25.
• 51:15
  That's hilarious. Like, okay.
• 51:18
  Like can you please? I should do a real about that.
• 51:20
  That's so. Funny like you.
• 51:23
  Can meet someone young, you know.
• 51:26
  Don't have to wait. Like introducing them on the
• 51:28
  playground. I know.
• 51:30
  Oh my gosh. That's, that's OK.
• 51:32
  So my final question for you is since you you seem to have it
• 51:36
  all together. So what has been your life?
• 51:40
  I do not. Well, you look good and.
• 51:43
  You look like you got it. What has been your lifesaver at
• 51:47
  the moment, like a product or a mantra or what is just getting
• 51:52
  you through? The day, well, I am a very OK
• 51:57
  well, there's a few things. Yeah, go for it.
• 51:59
  I'm a very spiritual person. I, I definitely have been trying
• 52:04
  to get back to doing my prayer and devotional in the morning
• 52:08
  just to like connect. I'm not good at it.
• 52:10
  So sorry. I should have said at night
• 52:12
  because I was trying to do it in the morning and I'm not a
• 52:15
  morning person. And I'm like, I just have to
• 52:17
  lean into that like why am I trying to do this?
• 52:19
  It's not going to happen. So at night, if I if I do it at
• 52:22
  night, at least I can like kind of connect and sleep on it.
• 52:26
  And then I I don't know, I'm trying to like, like I said,
• 52:30
  like really stay present and just not worry so much about did
• 52:34
  this get done to this, you know, and that's really I do know the
• 52:37
  enneagram at. All yes.
• 52:39
  I'm really into that I. Forget what my number is.
• 52:42
  OK, I'll have to look. Again, I'd be so curious.
• 52:45
  Wait. Well, I'm A7 surprise surprise
• 52:48
  God 7 is the enthusiast. Oh.
• 52:50
  Backtracks and they don't like, like, that's why I have too many
• 52:54
  baskets, you know, like, And that's where you have to stay
• 52:57
  present. Sevens never stay present.
• 52:58
  They're always looking forward. FOMO is a big one, like fear of
• 53:02
  missing out. So yeah, I need to stay present.
• 53:05
  My name actually means pause and like and reflect.
• 53:09
  Oh. Interesting.
• 53:11
  It's a meditation term in the Bible.
• 53:13
  You just have to like, say your name.
• 53:15
  I know and I never do. I love it.
• 53:17
  Like all over the place. So yeah, that's that's what I'm
• 53:19
  working. On Yeah, well, that's, I mean,
• 53:22
  there's always, it's always like the we're doing our best.
• 53:26
  That's what I like to say. We're doing our best and we need
• 53:28
  to give ourselves grace. Yes.
• 53:30
  In all aspects so. True.
• 53:34
  It is so true, yes. Well, I feel like I could talk
• 53:37
  to you for I'm like, can we just like double our time?
• 53:40
  Here, Yeah, we should do a joint with me and Siggy.
• 53:43
  Siggy had. So much fun.
• 53:44
  So Oh my gosh, I know what I was like.
• 53:46
  I should, I told her. I was like I should have just
• 53:48
  had you 2 on it. I should have sat over there and
• 53:50
  just like. We're.
• 53:52
  Crazy. Just like talk about.
• 53:55
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• 54:04
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• 54:09
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