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Episode 44 The 2023 Slammy Awards!!!! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  A question is oh you When I talk to her, I will give you
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  a show like you have never ever seen before a wife because I can't.
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  What do you guys want to talk about? God? Act from the color
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  of red in the world with a black and white? Haven't either of world?
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  Yeah? Don't you about lack? There's no excuse the child about bad
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  who ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children involve ages. Welcome back
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  to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling and Oh boy, oh boy,
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  we have a very very special episode for you. It is the Slammy Awards.
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  We are gonna be going over our picks for the twenty twenty three Slam
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  Awards. Now, these are our words, these are our picks, these
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  are our categories. But uh, you know what I have. Let me
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  let me bring them out here, suit and tie, whatever they're wearing tonight
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  for this special occasion. Let me bring them on out here we go.
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  We were supposed to wear something, dude, what what what are you wearing?
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  Dre for the Slammy Awards. I mean, don't you gotta dress nice?
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  Ray, It's like the Hall of Fame almost you got dress real real
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  swing. Yeah, I'm wearing Deadpool pajama pants and a black T shirt.
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  Nice. Nice, dude. I am wearing the Grace the uh gray sweatpants
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  with the hoodie you know. Uh nice and cozy in my office here.
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  Well, let's bring on the guy who's probably doing this naked. Here we
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  go. How'd you cass? Yah? You don't even know me? H
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  yeah, you don't even know how many you know me? Yeah? You
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  sixty called sixty. Kiss these boils for this? We stoles our Fuck that
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  shit. You won't have like friends, don't got a little sime, but
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  not like this. Sam Trumples want except blackest from Doyle. Oh it's me,
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  It's me. It's a d o y Ley. Uh and yeah,
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  I'm naked as the day I was born afraid. Uh yeah, Well hey
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  man, whatever whatever makes you comfortable to do the show. Oh I'm comfortable.
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  What this is how you're want to present your awards? And then so
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  be it. I did have a little gift for you. I was thinking
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  about you listening to last year's episode, and I thought, you know,
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  we're doing the Slammy Awards. Let's do it right with a little bit of
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  some music. Here is self familiar. That's fun. I should it's nineteen
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  eighty seven, Doyle. Yes, all the wrestlers, all the w W
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  one stage dancing. Yeah, yeah, that's terrible, it's funny. Oh
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  man, god, you really want to be playing us, You really want
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  to be playing a song talking about what you're gonna do to him, knowing
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  that he's butt naked right now. Yeah that's true. Oh god, yeah.
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  I was kind of cringing when I was watching that, because then each
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  wrestler got like their the little chime in, the little little of course piece,
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  they get the chime in on the song, and it's a little cringey.
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  Oh yeah, it's a lot cringing. Yeah, yeah, it's to
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  say, it's like, could you picture that today, like in the modern
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  day, Like, no, I we have enough bad skits that make me
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  cringe, so as it is, you know, m yeah yeah yeah that
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  was back. And then when they were riding at we Are the World wave
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  everything, everybody wanted to get to get the whole company together to sing a
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  song. They did We Are the World Fucking The Chicago Bears did it with
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  the Super Bowl shuffle. W W did it with their roster. For some
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  reason, everybody thought that was cool. And thought they could have their We're
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  the World moment and everybody except we are the World look terrible. Well,
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  you know, you don't know you don't look cool until you do it,
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  and you don't look cool. Yeah, and then it's on YouTube forever.
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  Yeah. Yeah, they didn't know the Internet was going to come along and
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  revive it. So if you are listening to this episode now naked like Doyle,
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  maybe you should head over to pro wrestling teas and at least, for
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  the love of God, throw on a PCW shirt over your chest. It'll
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  protect you from all the elements. It might even protect you from girls.
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  But yeah, we've actually been selling a couple. We've sold three more.
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  The other day and I was at a New Year's Eve party and I broke
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  out the old QR code and uh told some people with the party come to
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  our stort check it out. QR code is so easy, man, just
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  no typing, nothing, just scan it. Do your think? I love
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  it and just QR codes for everything. So but uh, yeah, I
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  mean you guys got your shirts, right, I mean, how how how
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  are they? What kind of a teary good shirts like I've got? I
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  got mine. It was a good shirt. You know, quality autumns fairly
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  good. At least they don't like pick out the cheapest, cheapest type of
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  shirt possible. Yeah, but they give you a lot of options, a
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  lot of Yeah, that is cool. It's not just like we only have
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  cotton, so just picked your size, pratty. God, it doesn't shrink
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  when you wash it. Yeah, because like all my old wrestling shirts,
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  they do not fit anymore. They all shrunk. So they're all for Andrew
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  to wear it now. So now she expand you know, I am cultivating
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  mass. But like I look at some of the shirts you know, back
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  in like when CM punk was around, you know, a long time ago,
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  and I'm just like, I was a different man back then because I
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  was a different size. Because I no longer fit in this shirt. Yeah.
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  So yeah, it shows that time has passed. And with that this
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  year, oh man, so much has happened. I've been watching I assume
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  you guys have too, been watching recap videos, watching other awards ceremonies.
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  Fox did their version of who they think is best male Superstar and Female Superstar
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  I sell their list of things. ESPN highlight A did a list. It
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  seems like everybody has a Bleach Report even had one what culture of their version
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  of the Slammies, and it seems like we just don't have the big ceremony
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  anymore. It used to be broadcasted on TV and I don't I can't remember
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  the last one that we had, and you think they would have, I
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  don't know, done one this year. But you know, honestly, in
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  my opinion, I'm kind of glad that WW does not do their own version
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  of it, just because I don't like the prospect. I don't like the
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  whole thing of an in house company doing their like a war thing, because
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  you know, there's a level of bias or it's really just mostly propaganda as
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  opposed to being an actual, you know, third party outside looking in opinion
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  of it. So I appreciate more of the opinions from like ESPN or Bleacher
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  Report of those who report on wrestling without actually being you know, the promoters
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  themselves. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's always just so goofy to you
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  know, it's just an opportunity for to you know, to say that's nasty
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  to Zawa, you know, and that's all It's dumb, low hanging fruit
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  jokes. And I mean, I don't have a problem with it, but
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  I also am not gonna miss it. Yeah, very true. All right,
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  Well, we had a couple of categories here, uh a few if
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  you listened last year. We're gonna kind of maybe tweak things a little differently,
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  but still the same format. Uh, this will be our annual thing.
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  I mean, why not. They don't want to do it, so
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  we'll do it. Plus we have that nice gap between pay per views and
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  I kind of like twaiting until after the holidays to do this. Uh.
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  And also seeing like I said, other people's versions of the Slammies and instead
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  of us being the first one out the gate, you know, so I'm
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  kind of glad we waited. And uh, you know, hats off by
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  the way to Triple A used to letting all those guys go home for the
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  holidays, not having to work events during the holidays, so that was nice.
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  They did like a best of Raw and best of SmackDown during Monday and
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  Friday, and it was like the first time I was like, I can
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  take a break. I don't have to watch this because I was there all
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  year, so why I don't have to watch this right now? I was
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  there, So yeah, it was a nice little one week break of wrestling
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  because they'll get back at us during WrestleMania week, and it seems like this
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  week, with all the wrestling that they have jammed together, they get us
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  back again. Anyway, it's forever a part of my life. Yes,
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  of course, a loud truck. Just please try buy. During the middle
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  of my podcast, very rude, I apologize. All right, let's uh,
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  let's kick things off here. I want to start with the best non
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  w w E superstar. That's gonna be somebody who doesn't It's not a w
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  W wrestler. It could be somebody coming in from from the outside, you
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  know, maybe a celebrity that you think did well, or maybe from a
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  different wrestling company altogether. I actually want to shake things up, So Dre,
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  I want to I want to hear who you had as your best non
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  WWE, you know, superstar for the year. Okay, So, given
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  that most I most primarily watch the w W product, when it came to
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  my choice for non w W superstar of the year, I basically checked for
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  who got onto my radar this year? Who is somebody that was working in
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  another company or outside of ww that I was not aware of that much before,
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  but now suddenly have become aware of because of the work that they're doing.
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  And for me, there's pretty much one person that excuse me, yeah,
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  pretty much one person that popped onto my radar pretty late later on this
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  year, and that person is Swerved Strickland from AAW. I know he had
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  a previous run in ww or in n XT. I know he had it
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  was I guess previously affiliated with hit Row. And he's the guy that everybody
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  attributes hit Roe's old success too, and said basically, the reason why the
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  three of them who came back sucked is because they did not have him.
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  But I wasn't watching that time, so I can't speak to all that.
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  What I can't speak to is the fact that he appears to be somebody who
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  is on the rise in AAW and poised to be one of their top stars
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  going into twenty twenty four, hopefully so if they book him right. And
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  for a company like AEW that has its own stars obviously in house, but
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  seems to be very hit and missed in terms of really developing them into being
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  top tier caliber stars that can compete in terms of notoriety on the same playing
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  field as what WWE has for Swarve Strickland to has elevated himself to that point,
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  at least in my eyes, that's what warrans him being the best non
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  ww superstar of the year for me. Cool, Cool Doyle, What do
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  you but I'm gonna give a bunch of honorable mentions just kind of get all
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  of my non WWE stuff out of the way, I guess in one fell
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  Swoop says some honorable mentions. Samoe Joey of course, who just won the
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  aw title, had a great year. God damnited a lot of people on
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  this list. Ww A fucked up by not WWE. Sorry it's only been
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  twenty years. Really fucked up by not retaining mg M j F. Also
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  great year. Christian had a great year super entertaining with his dead father stuff.
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  Timeless. Tony Storm is just phenomenal, fucking hilarious. She's doing great
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  stuff Athena. They got her buried down in the Ring of Honor there,
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  but every time she steps in the ring, it's a treat. And you
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  know, Trinity uh maybe formerly known as Naomi, maybe futurely known as Naomi,
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  had a great year with TNA Impact whatever the hell they're called these is
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  nite over in Japan. Swerve awesome, awesome year. That deathmatch with Hang
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  with Adam Page was fucking phenomenal. Orange Cassidy, Willow Nightingale, and Julia
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  Hart all great years, but the best year in the non WWE category,
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  for my money is will Osprey. I mean, every time this guy wrestled
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  in twenty twenty three, he put on an absolute clinic. I mean,
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  he's got me watching fucking Impact, which I never watched, you know what
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  I mean? And you know not that Miltz's ratings mean a whole hell of
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  a lot, but I think he had eight or nine five plus star matches
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  this year. Just crazy. This guy puts on classics, you know,
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  an almost an unprecedented clip, and when he was just a free agent,
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  I guess W or rather AEW signed him over WWE. I think ultimately it's
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  probably a better move for him. I think their roster is kind of more
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  equally suited to provide him with dance partners that couldinuon to put on five star
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  matches than the w WE is, and that's probably where he'll be most able
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  to shine, I think. But I mean, across multiple promotions, this
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  guy was everywhere, and if you haven't seen this guy. I really really
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  urge you to do it. He had two just absolute fucking bangers with Kenny
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  Omega. I'm gonna butcher some of these. I'm gonna butcher some of these
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  Japanese names. I'm sure Shino Tagaji, Great Match, Nao, Michi,
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  Marifuji, Zach Saber Junior, Josh Alexander Okada, y two Nda, Chris
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  Jericho, Yoda, Seguji, Speedball, Mike Bailey. The list goes on
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  and on, Shota, You Minno and Nato or Nita rather who I mentioned
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  earlier. Yeah, And I mean, I think he's primed to be even
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  better in twenty twenty four. I mean we're looking at maybe another match with
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  Omega if he gets healthy. Danielson, Claudio Moxley, were Keith Lee.
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  I mean that the dance partner, the list of dance partners is immense over
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  there, and I'm really looking forward to seeing what he does next. Cool
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  man. I'm gonna kind of echo both a little bit of both of you
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  guys, because Dre like just like you, like I've been just so this
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  year just driven into WW just maybe it's because of just how much time just
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  wrestling takes up during the week I mean there's literally I mean, if you're
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  a wrestling fan, you can spend every day watching wrestling every day, it
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  don't matter that the company. There's wrestling on every day somewhere, and like
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  on the weekends you can find SmackDown replaying in Spanish in Espano, so it's
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  everywhere. I think Wrestling Kingdom, I think is tomorrow morning for us,
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  like show. Yeah, so it's just so much to absorb, you know.
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  Uh So I've been just focusing mainly on w W stuff, but I
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  I have kept my ear to the ground and I'm always I have AW stuff
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  and impact wrestling stuff, you know, in my feed. So I'm seeing
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  it. I see what makes it because I've seen who's getting TV time,
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  who's who's getting you know, uh, social media time or social media worthy
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  time, Like you know, there's certain people that work for that company,
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  you know, for AW that I haven't seen a lot of and not even
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  on social media, and I'm like, they're still employed there. But you
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  know, this year, some wrestlers, you know, Doyle, I mean
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  you were rattling off like basically most of the ones I have, you know,
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  like uh, Tony Storm, like, oh what they I mean,
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  I think it's gonna get old soon, but right now, god damn it
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  is it funny? This this fifties Hollywood's starlet gimmick she has, like she
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  has a gimmick that's working for her and like you know, she's yeah not
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  like it's not like anything anyone else is doing. Exactly. She's won her
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  title, the women's title three times, I believe, yeah, and she's
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  going into twenty twenty four as the champion. Uh. It just goes to
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  show like, you know, ww what they could have done with somebody like
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  this. You know a lot of AW. I mean, that's what's great
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  with AW and like Impact is Trinity, uh you know formerly Naomi. Like,
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  look, she's made herself a bigger start in Impact wrestling, you know,
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  like Ruber has that. She's you know probably coming back you know yeah,
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  yeah, Cody, Cody and Drew kind of invented that. Yeah,
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  kind of going away making an even bigger name for yourself and then coming back
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  like king ship a fuck mountain, you know, yeah, exactly. And
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  you know, you know, a notable guy who carried a W on his
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  back this year is probably m j F being uh you know, champion as
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  long as he has been and you know he from what I saw, he
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  was a heel and then he turned to it you know, aw's top babyface.
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  H He also did kind of great thing where like the character didn't really
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  change that much, and that's always kind of masterful when you can. And
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  l A. Knight has kind of done the same thing where his heel character
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  and his face character aren't really that different. The crowd and who he's going
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  after changed, so the slot on the face baby face side of the ledger
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  changed, you know changed. Yeah, and man Christian Christian being the hilarious
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  big heel that he is. Uh. And you know one of my favorite
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  lines that came from Christian this year yourself. Yeah, uh, you know
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  with him and Adam Copeland are doing over there. Uh. But yeah,
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  it's mostly you know, a w top people in the company and and you
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  know a sprinkling of some impact wrestling characters. But you know, I I
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  hope not these people are bigger a lot a lot bigger, you know some
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  of them when their contracts are they come to w W, they that value
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  still holds with these with these guys because a big one, uh, you
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  know that had a good year, and that that we signed was Jade Cargel.
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  I mean, that's that's when I'm waiting to see how that pans out,
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  and I'm waiting to see and I have nothing but high hopes and I
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  expect nothing but the best. It's coming her. So I'm just you know,
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  excited to see somebody from the outside coming in and we just haven't seen
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  anything yet, not yet. Yeah, yeah, I agree with everything that
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  y'all have said, and you know, just because I don't want I don't
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  want people to think that, you know, we're WW fanboys or anything like
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  that, just because we're not necessarily checking in week by week, minute by
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  minute on you know, AW or Impact or you know, any of the
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  other promotions like that. It's pretty much like you said, there's only so
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  much time in the weekend. Obviously, as regular people, we have multiple
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  interests, so there's only so much time I can invest in just wrestling at
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  this moment, because obviously I got, you know, other things I enjoy
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  doing as well. So it's I don't have any you know, anything against
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  AW or anything against Impact or anything of that nature. It's just whatever makes
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  it onto my radar. Those are the things I checked for you know,
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  like I said, like the rise of Swerz Strickland, MJF. I'm aware
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  that he's done great work, you know, Like you mentioned Trinity Fatu,
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  she's having a hell of a run and impact as their knockouts champion. She's
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  been doing great work down there of Fena down and Ring of Honor. Yeah,
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  she's had an incredible run as their women's champion down there. You know,
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  these are things that obviously you are aware of, and it speaks to
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  the work that these people are doing. I'm aware of Tony Storm and her
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  her run with the current Hollywood starlett persona she's created for herself. These are
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  things that I'm aware of, the things that have entered my my wrestling space,
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  that have broken through that proverbial WW bubble, and that does speak to
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  the great work that these people are doing outside of WW. Like the Doyle
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  the rate you went on about, well, yeah, he's doing incredible work
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  right now. And I agree with you wholeheartedly that it was probably for the
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  best that he did not sign in WWE, because I don't think he would
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  be able to cook in WWE the way he is in these other promotions where
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  he has much more freedom in the ring to work his style and work his
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  way. It would have been fun. But oh sure it would have been
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  fun. We would have loved it. We would have loved to see the
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  hype. But I think a lot of people yeah, yeah, I think
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  the thing about a guy like well Osprey is is that, you know,
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  a lot of what people enjoy most about him is purely his end ring work
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  and his performance in the ring. And we know in WWE it takes more
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  than just being great in the ring to really get over and get elevated to
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  the top. Then they could bring him in, they can hype him up
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  and he can have that initial hype and all that, but a company like
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  w W could just as easily bury him down in the mid card because like,
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  yeah, he put on great matches, but where's the character. Whereas
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  and you know, and he can end up being you know, more or
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  less undervalued. Whereas in a company like a w who was that's all more
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  about just you know, having just great matches and you know, to a
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  certain extent, storyline and stuff like that is a bit secondary at times.
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  A person like Will Ospray, who can just absolutely cook in the ring,
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  can truly shine somewhere like that where you compare him up with other guys who
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  are great in the ring and they can just put on phenomenal matches and that
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  alone can build him up and make him, you know, a top wrestler
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  outside of WW and make him the highly coveted free agent that he was at
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  the time before he signed with aw Yeah, it's like picking this category because
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  this, you know, even though we have tunnel vision and we're watching a
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  lot of w W content like this award allows us to see out of our
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  peripherals, like who's sticking out to us, who's standing out and and we're
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  noticing. But basically what we're saying is we see your hard work and we're
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  noticing it. And and that's a big deal coming from you know, people
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  who who kind of you know, put most of their time into one product.
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  And you know, that's what I do is I put a lot of
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  my time into one product because like you says, right, we got other
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  shit we want to do. Like, hey, I like watching Game of
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  Thrones. You know, I don't just watch wrestling all the time. I
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  like to watch Loki. I like to watch things like that. But you
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  know, I gotta I gotta spend my time wisely, and like you know
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  how upset I was when I heard that we might mix smeckdown three hours like
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  the fuck Yard. No, that one hour means so much to me going
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  to bed at ten o'clock. Three hours, Yeah, ra rass should be
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  two being two hours. And because there's when when I go to Hulu to
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  like sometimes recap like a roller SmackDown, the fact that they can put a
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  three hour show into an hour and a half, and it's just like I
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  know, they cut out commercials and ship, but there's also a lot of
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  just garbage we don't need. Yeah, that's why that's why I rarely watch
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  it live because I can I get I can watch a three hour raw and
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  about under an hour, you know, yeah, and bullshit. Just get
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  the cliff notes. This five minute recap of SmackDown fast forward. I thought,
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  you know what happened? Yes, because like that That is one thing
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  I will say about AW as a whole, like I loved, is like
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  when you return to a w and they say they started at eight o'clock,
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  wrestling started at eight o'clock. They were the opponents already in the ring.
• 28:56
  The bell rung like that's it, Like they you're not how many times I
• 29:00
  would just turned to AW and it was like, all right, well we
• 29:03
  only got like an hour or two hours, like let's make the best of
• 29:06
  it. So like there's no time for bullshit and recapping, like you want
• 29:11
  to recap shit, go to social media, Like we don't got time for
• 29:15
  that. So well, HW is a wrestling show and WW is a television
• 29:21
  show that has wrestling in it. Yeah, yeah, very much. So
• 29:25
  I'll say AW is much more in the vein of old school w CWNWA than
• 29:33
  it is trying to be awwe clone and they're spending money like latter day WCW
• 29:41
  that to that part too, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 29:45
  all right guys, moving right along, we are going to get to
• 29:55
  some base. What are your best heel or face turns of the year?
• 30:00
  You know some of them, we you know some of them even if you
• 30:04
  saw them coming, you know, like one that you were excited for,
• 30:10
  the one that you know it could be one that you saw you did see
• 30:12
  coming. But some of these turns are for the best for the character,
• 30:19
  you know. For me, the ones that really stood out was Broccolezner turning
• 30:26
  on Cody Sammy Zaine going face and leaving the bloodline, you know, going
• 30:33
  face at the Royal Rumble. Ah, definitely notable recently, kind of recently,
• 30:41
  Santos Escobar turning on Raymond Stereo. We had Trish Stratus turn heel this
• 30:51
  year against Becky Lynch, but I you know, I don't, I don't.
• 30:56
  I don't like Trish's heel, but she did it. I mean,
• 31:02
  some people just doesn't work for Jimmy usso you know, going, I guess
• 31:07
  back to heel after being a faith he kind of flipp flopped this year.
• 31:11
  Jimmy babyface you know, yeah, he turned twice, uh turn twice actually
• 31:22
  because he was a heel and he was aligned with race and become face and
• 31:25
  then he turned on ready to become heal again. Yeah, turned a couple
• 31:29
  of times. We got, uh, you know, Ellie Knight kind of
• 31:34
  naturally just turned babyface. He wasn't a baby face at the beginning of the
• 31:40
  year, and we kind of made him a babyface. You know. The
• 31:44
  probably the most frustrating one for me this year, and Dre might even agree
• 31:48
  with me, is the Bobby Lashley Street profits. Like these guys are supposed
• 31:52
  to be heals but we get Bobby Chance. People still love Bobby Lashley.
• 31:57
  Uh this, I don't know if the street profits are here, they're supposed
• 32:01
  to be heal, they changed the theme music this year. I don't even
• 32:07
  think w W knows what the fuck they are. No. No, I
• 32:10
  think they're trying to let something naturally happen and they just don't know which way
• 32:15
  it's going. No, if they were letting something naturally happen, then we
• 32:19
  wouldn't be in this position in the first damn place. They would be freaking
• 32:22
  baby face because everybody popped like a motherfucker when they got together. I got
• 32:25
  you fired up, now, I got doing with them. We got Drew
• 32:32
  McIntyre turning heel this year. Uh, and AJ Styles turned heel. So
• 32:42
  you know, I don't know. I think I think the Jay Jimmy usso
• 32:50
  it was kind of like my my favorite I think out of nowhere for me.
• 32:54
  Uh uh, let me see. I guess I know it probably been
• 33:01
  true McIntire because I didn't see that or AJ Styles, I didn't see that
• 33:06
  coming nowhere. But uh true since uh Doyle, I mean, what do
• 33:15
  you think where someone stuck this year? I mean you pretty much mentioned them
• 33:21
  all. The only one I would mention that you didn't mention would be I
• 33:25
  don't think you mentioned, uh would be Oscar turning on Bianca. Uh yeah,
• 33:32
  but uh yeah, from you mentioned, the one that I picked is
• 33:36
  my favorite. Uh It really the only one, you know, I mean,
• 33:38
  you saw it coming a mile away, but bade me fucking stand up
• 33:43
  a chair. Was when when Sammy's a and finally had enough of Roman and
• 33:45
  his bullshit and fucking hit him with that chair, And I just remember,
• 33:51
  yeah, you know, uh yeah, And I didn't get that out of
• 33:54
  any of the other turns, whether I saw him coming or not. Uh
• 33:59
  So that was my pick, with Sammy turning on the Bloodline finally, yeah,
• 34:04
  uh, Drey, what about him? For me? I ain't gon
• 34:10
  lot. For a while, I kind of struggled thinking of noteworthy heel or
• 34:15
  face turn of the year because I didn't There were obviously people who did turn
• 34:21
  fit hell and face throughout the year, but as you just listed, but
• 34:25
  not a lot of them really felt noteworthy or you know, like significant most
• 34:31
  of them. Most memorable heel turns or face turns are usually associated with moments,
• 34:39
  you know, like this was the moment when that person turned from hill
• 34:43
  to face and this, that, and the third even with Sammy's Ain,
• 34:45
  Yeah, granted him cracking Roman in the back with the chair was his you
• 34:49
  know, face turned moment. That's probably the closest thing we got to a
• 34:52
  real moment. But like, even when he was in the Bloodline, he
• 34:57
  was like the least hated member of the gre Like he came out and people
• 35:01
  still cheered for him and kind of popped for him, like he was a
• 35:06
  face more or less a face in a heel faction. Everybody's like, we
• 35:09
  hate the Bloodline, but we love Sammy's ain yep, yep, and shit,
• 35:15
  Like he had the moment of like one of the top moments of twenty
• 35:17
  twenty three with the whole feeling OUSI shit. So like even that was like,
• 35:22
  yeah, he turned face, but it was more or less like he
• 35:28
  was already there. So even that one I kind of struggled with, you
• 35:30
  know, again, not the shit on doors choice, because yeah, again,
• 35:32
  that's probably like the only turn that was really associated with a strong memorable
• 35:38
  moment. But for me, ultimately I would say the the heel slash face
• 35:45
  turn of the year, I'm gonna give it to La Knight just because I
• 35:50
  think his turn changed among among everybody else who had a heel turnof face turn,
• 35:58
  I think his had the most impact on his own career directly. Everybody
• 36:02
  else kind of you know, they turned, they were already in up one
• 36:06
  place. They turned, he'll to turn face. Nothing really changed as far
• 36:08
  as their career or their trajectory. L A. Knight turning face won.
• 36:14
  It happened organically from the fans just wanting to cheer him, and then w
• 36:19
  W finally just decided to roll with it, and then from there it's pretty
• 36:23
  much rocketed him into the stratosphere as being one of the top faces in the
• 36:27
  company. And it's all happened. Remember how his year started with that goofy
• 36:32
  ass uh Breay White bray Waite match that yeah, that Mountain Dew Midnight Neon
• 36:39
  shit, fucking stupid as fuck. It was last year he was manager,
• 36:45
  yeah, yeah, yeah, last year, last year he was Maxine Dupre
• 36:50
  Yeah. And then so yeah, when you think about it, he started
• 36:53
  the year and arguably one of the worst matches that happened this past in twenty
• 36:59
  twenty three, and he's ended it as one of the top baby faces of
• 37:04
  the company. And it was also the last matter for Ray Wyat that too.
• 37:10
  Yeah, that'll be my my my face start of the year. I'll
• 37:14
  give it to l A. Knight. Yeah. I like those pics.
• 37:16
  I like all those picks. Yeah, I know, I know, I
• 37:20
  like just like just shot a bunch out of the cannon. But uh,
• 37:23
  you know, there's plenty of more that I probably missed. But you know,
• 37:28
  and like going ahead, like we have so much uh tension with a
• 37:34
  lot of characters right now, Like I could see a bunch in the future.
• 37:37
  You know, we're seeing some factions and not working all together, a
• 37:42
  little bit tension. We see that with tag teams right now, and we
• 37:46
  just see some stale characters that need a turn. So but yeah, let's
• 37:54
  see, all right, we're gonna move on to Botch of the Year.
• 38:00
  Oh my goodness. I really didn't have as many as I did last year.
• 38:07
  I have very little. There was no flop dollar moment this year.
• 38:12
  There was not. There was no Vincent Man taking a terrible stunner. You
• 38:17
  know, we just had like injuries like you know, this year we had
• 38:22
  you know, Kobe Kingston eliminated himself from the rumble way too soon. He
• 38:27
  tried to do a spot didn't work out for like the third year in a
• 38:30
  round, and I watched it and as kind to retire that spot, cove.
• 38:37
  I love well love Kobe Kinton, but it might be time to retire
• 38:43
  you do so much like that. Yeah. I think he's even acknowledged that
• 38:46
  himself. Yeah. I think he's fucked it up like two or three times
• 38:50
  in a round now. Yeah, yeah, don't we don't need it anymore,
• 38:53
  man, Just I don't want him breaking his neck. Yeah, trying
• 38:58
  to this crazy them. Yeah. Uh, the last thing you want to
• 39:02
  do is end up with biggie on the sidelines because you try to jump on
• 39:06
  a fucking chair with wheels exactly. But you know that. And recently Charlotte
• 39:14
  got injured with her knees like nine months, you know, not really a
• 39:20
  bot with just injuries. I don't know. Maybe you guys can't like jog
• 39:24
  my memory because like I think that's the issue, because I think for me,
• 39:30
  there was only one choice, Doyle's And I mean, if if you
• 39:37
  know, I hate to laugh when people get hurt. I'm just kidding.
• 39:42
  I love to laugh when people get hurt. For me, it was Shane
• 39:45
  o' mack tearing both his quash making after making a return that nobody asked for.
• 39:52
  Oh, I forgot all about that. One is jobbing to Snoop Dog
• 39:59
  like uh it deserves like his father him, Yes, deserves just like his
• 40:08
  father before him. He tears both of his quads in there from no contact
• 40:14
  in a in a w w WE ring. Uh. And like I said,
• 40:19
  I when I'll laugh at somebody ain't hurt when it's when their last name
• 40:22
  is McMahon, I have no problem there. Uh. So that that was
• 40:27
  my botch of the year. But I would also just point to uh k
• 40:30
  O falling off the top rope with in the during the Roman match at the
• 40:34
  Rumble. They had a bad spot there. Uh. They had that mixed
• 40:38
  tag that Edge and Beth Phoenix had with with a Finn and Rhea. There
• 40:45
  was a Beth was supposed to bust up a pin and she was just late
• 40:47
  as fuck and the referee did the two and then the people yeah yeah uh
• 40:57
  l A Knight also fell off the top rope and his match with the Yeah
• 41:00
  Famous and then there was a great promo with Miz talking to Theory and I
• 41:06
  think the New Day was there, and uh, he just completely forgot what
• 41:09
  he was saying, he starts laughing, New Day starts laughing. Uh,
• 41:14
  and that was pretty funny. Yeah about Shade. Okay, so yeah,
• 41:25
  you jogged my memory with a couple of those, Doyle, especially like the
• 41:30
  l A Night one. I remember that one when he tried to he tried
• 41:32
  to pull the curd angle thing where he was up the rope and grabs the
• 41:36
  person and throws him off and he completely slipped and miss. Another one you
• 41:42
  kind of reminded me of, I think was what botched That happened between uh
• 41:45
  Tris Tradis and Becky Lynch And in a match where Trish went for that uh
• 41:51
  that uh cart wheel of Ford flipped to the rope that which that she does
• 41:55
  where she you know, flips up on the rope, wraps the person in
• 41:58
  there, uh and her legs off the turnbuckle and then flips them off.
• 42:02
  And Trish tried to pull that in a match and completely missed. But it
• 42:07
  wasn't it wasn't totally on her because Becky was supposed to grab her legs and
• 42:10
  Becky missed her legs. And yeah, so I remember that botch. But
• 42:15
  for me my Batch of the Year, I'm giving it to Charlotte Flair's fall
• 42:22
  from the top rope, just because that one resulted in a significant injury to
• 42:29
  Charlotte Flair that's going to put her out for the majority of twenty twenty four
• 42:35
  and caused her to miss you know, the Rumble, the WrestleMania, possibly
• 42:40
  even Summer Slams. So yeah, to me that that's gonna be the Batch
• 42:45
  of year, just because I think while all the other ones were like,
• 42:47
  you know, noteworthy botches or funny moments and all that stuff, Charlotte's one
• 42:52
  is genuinely impactful and gonna cost the ww one of its top women's stars for
• 43:01
  a good chunk of the year. Bron Truman also got injured because he was
• 43:06
  at the Rumble and then he injured his neck really bad and he's been out
• 43:09
  since. And and did he injured in a botch store or was it just
• 43:15
  I'm not I'm not sure, like because I I'm not sure how the injury
• 43:20
  came about. I don't think he did. I think it was more of
• 43:23
  a overused kind of thing than one specific moment kind of thing. Well,
• 43:30
  I guess we can't count this one, but rawl the first episode of the
• 43:36
  year, Giovanni Vinci. Uh. It was in a tag match with Kofi
• 43:40
  and Jay Lusso and he got uh he came off the top rope and Kofe
• 43:46
  kicked him right in the face and pretty much knocked it looked like knocked him
• 43:50
  right out, and the ref went over and put up the X symbol and
• 43:53
  immediately stopped the match. Uh oh. I just remembered a couple other botches
• 43:59
  too, too, a couple of they're coming to my mind now. One
• 44:06
  that popped into my head, not a wrestling batch, but more of a
• 44:08
  production botch, was when Bianca Bellair came out to the ring. She was
• 44:15
  being introduced. I don't remember if it was at a pay per view or
• 44:17
  an episode of SmackDown or what, but she was coming to the ring and
• 44:21
  they had Real Ripley's uh graphics playing on the screen. I remember that.
• 44:28
  I remember Real Ripley tweeted, tweeted about it after, like even the production
• 44:31
  team was thinking about Mommy that one. I remember. Samantha Irwin had a
• 44:37
  pretty significant watch uh. She was doing announcing. I don't remember who she
• 44:45
  was announcing. I can't remember if it was Bailey or somebody representing the judgment.
• 44:55
  Yeah, do you remember the Rumble, the women's Rumble. They played
• 45:00
  Naya Jack's music hitting at thirty before the countdown even started, and then so
• 45:07
  then her music hits like a couple of seconds go by, all the graphics
• 45:10
  are up, then the countdown stunts. Then she came out somebody fucked up
• 45:16
  and hit hit the hit her music too early. It was weird. Yeah,
• 45:22
  yeah, the right rumble is probably it's like the worst time to do
• 45:25
  any kind of audio fuck ups, you know, like that's the worst time,
• 45:30
  like throwing somebody's wrong music out, or the wrong wrestler coming out to
• 45:35
  the wrong theme music just oh yeah, or like playing somebody who's not even
• 45:38
  in the rumble period, like keyboard and playing stunkled Steve Vasson. Oh fuck,
• 45:45
  Like why was that button even there? Yeah, I mean it shit
• 45:52
  happens, duel. Do you have anymore? Oh no? Those were those
• 45:57
  were all that I could I could think of up the the Bailey thing,
• 46:00
  and then I came to me just now, I like it just it jogged
• 46:06
  our memories here real quick. Actually, you know, we realized kind of
• 46:09
  turning the wheels back, like how much shit has happened this year storyline wise?
• 46:14
  With a lot of these characters. So let me see. Oh man,
• 46:22
  we're getting this some juicier stuff here. Uh, let me what is
• 46:28
  one of the most impactful things that kind of happened this year? You know
• 46:31
  that could be like within the company itself as a whole. Uh maybe from
• 46:37
  a business point of view, maybe a numbers point of view. Maybe something
• 46:42
  to do with fans or clothing or catchphrases or you know, stuff that that
• 46:52
  that became very impactful for the company this year. For me, uh,
• 46:58
  well, you know ww merging with Ttoh, that's probably the biggest thing for
• 47:06
  that company to happen this year. And it was weird because listening to last
• 47:10
  year's episode, how we talked about, Oh, thank god, Vince isn't
• 47:15
  gonna be around anymore. I fucking laughed at myself. I was like,
• 47:22
  Oh, you dumb ass. I wish I could go back in time and
• 47:25
  tell myself, Vince is never leaving. He's gonna be here forever you think
• 47:30
  he's gone. But no, even after the merger, the man made nine
• 47:35
  point like something billion dollars and he's still got to keep his fucking job.
• 47:38
  Like who does that? Who does that? Like? Billionaires? Yeah,
• 47:43
  you know, just Fuck, this guy's gonna be here forever, but you
• 47:49
  know he doesn't anymore. The signs of a screen in charge has definitely shown
• 47:57
  with over the year, especially even since even since then, t k O
• 48:00
  has kind of realized, Okay, keeping his guys around a bit more problematic
• 48:05
  than we thought, and they've been quietly, you know, pushing him out
• 48:08
  since then. Yeah, that's right. He did have a lot of legal
• 48:13
  issues this year. That sucks to me. Evince, Oh, we got
• 48:21
  you know, something that doesn't happen very often. We got new titles this
• 48:24
  year. They merged the Roman Reings's two titles. We got a new world
• 48:30
  title, The women got new titles. You still got those ugly ass tag
• 48:37
  titles and that awful ic belt. I keep hearing there's still no mid card
• 48:42
  titles for the women. Yeah. I keep hearing rumors about the tag titles
• 48:45
  being either split up and new titles coming out. I was like, can
• 48:49
  you just fucking do it? Already liked titles. Did you guys see that
• 48:54
  there was something on TikTok or some ship and we were like, we're logan
• 48:58
  Paul traded in the US title and like a case of prime for Patrick Mahonmes'
• 49:02
  super Bowl ring. Yeah, some ship he did with Patrick Mahomes. That
• 49:07
  doesn't involve him wrestling, even though everybody thought, oh he's one of you,
• 49:10
  tap and he's gonna be full time now yeah he's not working out a
• 49:14
  few months. But it doesn't. But it does involve eyes on the on
• 49:17
  the product because oh, Logan Paul's wrestling. I got to see this,
• 49:21
  you know. Yeah, yeah, that was the one thing I was working
• 49:24
  about. When this man becomes champion, it's like, okay, like he's
• 49:28
  gonna be another part time champion on SmackDown. He's gonna defend the title at
• 49:31
  the Rumble. He's gonna defend it an elimination chamber, and then I'll lose
• 49:35
  it to wrestle Manny at l a Night. That's there's the next three months.
• 49:37
  He's gonna offend it twice and then lose it. I'd be surprised if
• 49:43
  he defended it elimination chamber, honestly. Oh no, he's already said he's
• 49:47
  definitely going to that. Well, yeah, I guess it's Australia. I'm
• 49:52
  pretty sure they they made him do that, Like all right, you got
• 49:53
  to defend it all at Australia. They'll probably do it in some some match
• 49:59
  with multiple people. I don't think that will be on one on one,
• 50:01
  but we're getting sidetracked anyway. Yeah. Anyway, Also that happened at the
• 50:07
  very beginning of the year was the Raw thirty that we even went to me
• 50:13
  and Doyle and it was great. Uh uh you know, got I got
• 50:19
  to see the Undertaker, we got to see d X, we got to
• 50:22
  see Curt Angle, we got to see the Hulkster Brother. Uh you know,
• 50:28
  Bray Whittt was there, which was good to see Bray Wyatt one last
• 50:31
  time. Uh you know, it was a really good moment, uh for
• 50:37
  for me, you know, being being there and seeing all those guys.
• 50:42
  Uh So Rall thirty was a big one. And uh NXC this year we
• 50:47
  had a lot of big names go down to NXC. I mean, I
• 50:52
  know I'm not there to stay. Uh you know, like Baron Corbyn has
• 50:55
  gone down and he has stayed down there. I think it's best for him
• 51:01
  right now. But we've had people coming him in and out. We've had
• 51:07
  Judgment Day kind of sticking their foot in just about everywhere this year on every
• 51:10
  roster. So I kind of like that, you know, with Don with
• 51:15
  the North American title, like, you know, he he got to do
• 51:20
  some work on NXT. He got to hold a lower tier title and still
• 51:27
  be relevant, you know, with the Judgment Day on the main roster.
• 51:30
  Uh. And then we had you know, John Cena on NXT, we
• 51:35
  had the Undertaker, we had ce him Punk and those are just big names
• 51:39
  on that show. You know. I never thought i'd see like see him
• 51:45
  Punk and Undertaker in the ring at NXT. No way, if you want
• 51:51
  to ask me that last year, I would have been like, yeah,
• 51:52
  okay, okay, well what's the next John Sieger show? But at NXT
• 51:57
  what No. Uh. And the whole blood line storyline this year with you
• 52:05
  know, with Kevin Owens at Sammy's Ain, their their whole story with the
• 52:10
  blood line. I mean that was very impactful throughout the whole year anything involving
• 52:15
  the blood Line basically. But I you know, you know, like I
• 52:22
  said, with Judgment Day, they made a huge impact on the roster this
• 52:25
  year. Less maybe just seems like less of Vince in a lot of this.
• 52:36
  The company is slightly changing for the good now that they've merged. I
• 52:40
  just pray to God we don't get like, you know, merchandise ads in
• 52:45
  the middle of the ring. The love of God, that's all I have.
• 52:52
  That's just gonna look like that w W ring will look like a boxing
• 52:55
  ring. I know. And this is what I have to say to that,
• 53:00
  fuck yourself because I don't want that. I don't want that. But
• 53:05
  yeah, we're gonna get more more cinnamon toast crunch matches. And it even
• 53:12
  adds just on the on the ringside graphics, you know during matches, more
• 53:19
  goofy uh more goofy. You know, tie in promos. You know,
• 53:25
  just just you wait till you get that hot Cheetos Infernal match. Yeah,
• 53:31
  we just had slim gym and Stacker two commercials. You know. That's fuck
• 53:38
  But trace like, maybe you can jog my memory to This is another one
• 53:44
  of those situations where I think we're gonna jog our memories and get some good
• 53:47
  quality stuff here. What are some impactful stuff kind of stuck out for you
• 53:52
  for this year, for the company or wrestling as a whole. Yeah,
• 53:58
  well s far as like moments that we're impactful. I didn't really focus too
• 54:07
  much on thinking of a bunch of doments that are impactful Honestly, you kind
• 54:10
  of jobbed my memory with some of these ones that you mentioned. Really is
• 54:15
  just thought about the one that among all the us impactful moments, the one
• 54:20
  that just kind of stood out to me the most, and then I thought
• 54:22
  really had a long lasting effect throughout the year. And for me, my
• 54:30
  most impactful moment of the year was Sammy's Ain turning on Roman Reigns. In
• 54:36
  the Bloodline, I thought that was the most impactful moment because that moment one
• 54:43
  happened at the very beginning of the year at the Rumble, and it set
• 54:46
  the tone or pretty much set the story of the Bloodline for the rest of
• 54:53
  the year. That moment pretty much signaled the beginning of the end for the
• 54:59
  bloodline, even though the bloodline still technically exists. If you think about what
• 55:04
  the blood line was at the beginning of the year, Roman was the champ.
• 55:08
  USO's were tag team champions, Sammy's Ain is as hot as can be,
• 55:14
  Solo is an absolute is a wrecking machine who had not lost yet,
• 55:20
  and they were dominating wrestling every time they showed up. It was a moment
• 55:27
  you look at where the blood line is now. Yeah, Roman's still champ,
• 55:30
  but he's you know, a lot of the luster is gone. Solo
• 55:37
  is kind of well, let's kind of tread and water. He seems poised
• 55:39
  to be the next one, and you know, you could argue that he's
• 55:44
  risen his stock a bit, you know, having beat the living dog shit
• 55:47
  out of John Cena and talking a little bit and all that stuff. But
• 55:52
  so you know, he's he's he's one that's elevated himself. Jimmy is still
• 55:58
  in the Bloodline, but again, in my opinion's kind of almost functioning war
• 56:04
  as a almost comedy relief. It seems to a certain extent in the blood
• 56:07
  line rather than being the you know, legitimate threat that he was at the
• 56:14
  beginning of the year. Jay is not even in the bloodline anymore. He's
• 56:17
  a Raw Raw and it's one of their breakout stars on Raw and becoming one
• 56:22
  of the top faces. So yeah, the blood Line is all in a
• 56:24
  completely different place. Like they've they're they've broken apart to a great extent,
• 56:31
  and it all started with Sammy's ain turning on Roman. That was the first
• 56:37
  major crack that formed in the bloodline, and it's it's just played out throughout
• 56:45
  the remainder of the year. You know, Sammy's Ain't turning off Roman is
• 56:49
  what kind of you are? You gave Jimmy and j a well obviously,
• 56:54
  yeah, from his actions since then and his crusade against them, gave them
• 57:00
  the courage to eventually break That set the zone for him for Sammy's Ain't and
• 57:04
  Kevin Owens to reunite and ultimately defeat the usso's at WrestleMania to become tag champions,
• 57:10
  which in turn led to Roman becoming you know, more irate, more
• 57:16
  unstable, YadA YadA, more aggressive, more abusive, which turned into Jay
• 57:23
  turning on Roman, Jimmy turning on Roman, bloodline, civil War, and
• 57:28
  all that stuff. It all started with a chair shot to the back because
• 57:32
  Sammy wouldn't swing on his boy. So to me, that to me,
• 57:37
  that's the most impactful moment of the year, streaking speaking just pure wrestling obviously,
• 57:44
  like you mentioned, like non wrestling perspective, you know, then you
• 57:46
  could say, yeah, certainly, the no you know, w w UFC
• 57:52
  merger into tk O holdings. Although that's something that's noteworthy and it's impactful,
• 57:58
  we haven't really seen many We haven't really seen a lot of impact from that
• 58:02
  yet as far as the product right. Also, the impact that we've seen
• 58:07
  from that has been you know, just on the surface, you know,
• 58:10
  namesake stuff and maybe TKO Holdings quietly pushing Vince out finally after realizing just how
• 58:21
  toxic that guy probably is to this new company that has a different level of
• 58:27
  accountability. Doyle, what do you got? Man? Uh? You know,
• 58:37
  I hadn't even considered that, and that was very well said, and
• 58:39
  I think in any other year that would absolutely be the most impactful moment that
• 58:45
  chair shot. But can there be any other answer than the sale? I
• 58:50
  mean, this is the biggest story in twenty years, you know, since
• 58:54
  since Vince bought WCW. This is the biggest story in wrestling. And yeah,
• 59:00
  we might not have seen all that many changes just yet they are happening.
• 59:06
  I mean, how many executives got laid off? Kevin Dunn is leaving
• 59:10
  like who knows? What's that? What I mean, while they didn't fire
• 59:14
  him, apparently apparently his old whole deal was he had a boss now,
• 59:19
  you know, whereas before he pretty much didn't, you know, he had
• 59:22
  somebody telling him what to do and he didn't want to. You know,
• 59:24
  he's got more money than God at disappoint anyway, So he just had happen
• 59:29
  and I'm done. But I mean yeah, I mean we already talked about
• 59:32
  things like ads on the on the on the canvas itself. I think we're
• 59:37
  absolutely one hundred going to start seeing co branded UFC WWWE events, whether it's
• 59:47
  you know, w WWF or w Jesus Christ. It's like the fourth time
• 59:52
  I've done that ww it is two twenty four. Not that's what it is.
• 1:00:08
  You played that seed in with that damn song. Why I keeping up
• 1:00:13
  WWF? But I think I think we're certainly gonna see a co branded event
• 1:00:20
  with them and UFC, whether it's whether it's one going Saturday, one going
• 1:00:23
  Sunday, or even fucking you know, a wrestling card and then the main
• 1:00:29
  event is uh UFC Heavyweight title fight something like that, and you know it
• 1:00:36
  maybe, but there's gonna be good things too. I think I think we're
• 1:00:38
  gonna have less McMahon cringe, you know, like kind of humor hopefully.
• 1:00:44
  Uh you know. So yeah, I mean, this isn't just a fault
• 1:00:49
  line. This is a grand canyon, and in ten twenty years we're gonna
• 1:00:52
  look back and this is just gonna be a seismic, you know, a
• 1:00:57
  thing that you know we're gonna talk about before the merger and after the merger.
• 1:01:02
  And it's tough to kind of see that now, but but I guarantee
• 1:01:07
  this is gonna just this is just gonna continue to build and build and build
• 1:01:12
  and build and build. Oh yeah, just wait till you see Logan Paul
• 1:01:17
  and Connor McGregor Tax Team Champions. Yeah, you know, right right when
• 1:01:23
  John Bowes Jonesan's is the Royal Rumble? All right? Well, along with
• 1:01:30
  most impactful we'll roll right into uh shocking moments of the years. There a
• 1:01:37
  moment that really caught you off guard. I mean, that's gonna kind of
• 1:01:42
  roll into maybe comebacks of the year. So but Dre, what'd you have
• 1:01:52
  for your most shocking moments of twenty twenty three? Like? What? What?
• 1:01:58
  Stuff? That just it really made you either mark out or like you
• 1:02:01
  were just happy to finally see come to the tuition. For me, shocking
• 1:02:07
  at the moment of the year, it's really one that stands above all because
• 1:02:12
  it's the moment that most people thought was never going to happen, excuse me,
• 1:02:19
  and for me, it's the return of CM punk to WWE. Even
• 1:02:23
  with as much as people tried to speculate about it, you know, Survivor
• 1:02:28
  series is in Chicago, seeing punks in Chicago and all stuff, up until
• 1:02:32
  the moment that it happened, it still felt like just wishful thinking on the
• 1:02:37
  part of seem punk fans. It just felt like they were just trying to
• 1:02:42
  will it into happening, not something that legitimately was possible. And ww just
• 1:02:51
  masterfully played it all the way up until the you know, eleven fifty nine
• 1:02:58
  and fifty nine seconds and then did that beautifully do right, so much so
• 1:03:05
  that they literally just had the end graphics on the screen before it hit.
• 1:03:09
  So yeah, it completely caught everybody off guard. That's why I got such
• 1:03:14
  some massive pop that it did. So to me, yeah, that's hands
• 1:03:21
  down the most and so much so that I wasn't I'm not even a huge
• 1:03:24
  CM punk fan like that, Like I'm not a hater, but I'm not
• 1:03:29
  a huge fan of his either, And I had no way, shape or
• 1:03:31
  form thought he was gonna show up, and yet that music hit and I
• 1:03:36
  marked out for a moment like, holy shit, it actually happened. So
• 1:03:40
  yeah, with that one, it's pretty easy for me shocking moment of the
• 1:03:45
  year the return to seem punk to WWT you fucking Mark. I have to
• 1:03:54
  agree with you because that that shit caught me off guard, Like me being
• 1:04:00
  as big of a sampunk fan as I was, it like I was just
• 1:04:03
  in denial for so many years, just like, Nope, nos, not
• 1:04:06
  gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Like and you know, I understand
• 1:04:13
  that bridges have been rebuilt and mended in the past with other wrestlers. We
• 1:04:17
  never thought we'd seen the company ever again, ever ever, But I just
• 1:04:23
  thought he was just that bitter to like, I'm never going to come back,
• 1:04:29
  Like I don't know, I mean, think about a job that you
• 1:04:32
  used to have that you fucking quit on, that you just like walked out
• 1:04:36
  on, and you're just like, I'm doing this fucking place now. Imagine
• 1:04:40
  like trying to go back to that place like it. I don't know,
• 1:04:45
  it's not the same, you know, the analogy is not the same.
• 1:04:48
  But it's just I just never thought in a million years he would come back.
• 1:04:54
  So yeah, when his music hit and like you said, dude,
• 1:04:57
  it was put together so perfectly, like Randy Orton had his moment everybody had
• 1:05:02
  the team had their moment, the winning team. You know, so much
• 1:05:08
  happened within that, like you know, a couple of minutes and just everybody's
• 1:05:13
  like, oh, get ready to go home, and you know, I
• 1:05:15
  grabbed the remote, I'm getting ready to I'm done, and then like the
• 1:05:20
  I was like, oh my god. Yeah. I was also like when
• 1:05:30
  Ko and Sammy reunited, I was so happy, Uh you know that kind
• 1:05:36
  of I didn't. It just took forever. I guess it was just like
• 1:05:41
  a really long burn and we kind of saw it coming. But when it
• 1:05:45
  finally happened, it was put together so nicely. I guess. I mean,
• 1:05:57
  Joa, what what what else do you got? Maybe John Mory?
• 1:06:00
  I mean, what else could there be with that? But see him punk,
• 1:06:05
  you know, and never in one hundred thousand years thought we would see
• 1:06:09
  him back. You know. Yeah, even these guys said it, even
• 1:06:13
  with the rumors swirling around, they played it fucking perfectly, you know,
• 1:06:17
  putting the chirro on up. The show was fucking over, and then all
• 1:06:20
  of a sudden it wasn't, uh, you know, And they really one
• 1:06:26
  of the things that I think one of the changes that we've kind of started
• 1:06:29
  to see. Uh is the use of social media, right, and that
• 1:06:32
  was a perfect example that they immediately had that online. You know, he
• 1:06:36
  got millions of views, right. But this whole secondary market, if you
• 1:06:43
  will, of reaction videos to people seeing the thing, right, Uh,
• 1:06:48
  you know, people at parties going crazy. I saw one guy throwing a
• 1:06:53
  hissy fit. Fuck this company. I'm never watching this ship again. I
• 1:06:56
  thought him punk was coming. I'm fucking done with this ship. And he
• 1:07:00
  and he, you know, smashes the TV and goes in the other room
• 1:07:03
  and slams the door and then you're here, you know. Uh, So
• 1:07:10
  there was a whole sub genre of reaction videos to that. Uh. It's
• 1:07:15
  you know, got the whole wrestling world talking. Uh. And the guy
• 1:07:18
  hasn't even wrestled on TV anyway yet. Uh yeah, Yeah, could argue,
• 1:07:24
  I'm gonna say, you could argue that's probably the most viral moment w
• 1:07:28
  w E has had in years. I agree. Whatever you think about him,
• 1:07:35
  he gets fucking eyeballs, yep. I mean in the same year,
• 1:07:45
  the same year he is able to sell his merch right now, actually,
• 1:07:49
  on w W Shop and on Pro Wrestling TS he was the number one selling
• 1:07:56
  merch guy on Pro Wrestling Teas and I bet his mergers selling out too on
• 1:08:01
  WWE Shop. Yeah, he's probably doing very well right now financially. Let's
• 1:08:10
  roll this into uh, I guess, right into comebacks of the year.
• 1:08:15
  You know, obviously, I guess it's hands down seeing Punk probably the best
• 1:08:19
  comeback of the year. But also, you know, a lot of notable
• 1:08:24
  mentions. Randy or In another big you know comeback this year. He was
• 1:08:30
  out for eighteen months, right, I mean that was Holy Ship. That
• 1:08:34
  was a while, yo, not yo, Kyrie saying coming back to the
• 1:08:42
  company. That was pretty big. We saw John Cena come back, We
• 1:08:46
  saw the Rock come back. It was nice to see some of these people
• 1:08:51
  back on TV. I'm trying to I'm trying to think who else here is
• 1:09:00
  what are some of your favorite comebacks of this year? Returns? I'll say,
• 1:09:04
  honestly, you've kind of mentioned the most noteworthy ones that you know that
• 1:09:10
  I had on my list. I mean you left off a very big,
• 1:09:15
  glaring one that you left out, and that's the fucking return of Our Truth.
• 1:09:19
  Yeah, what oh god? How could I forget right, the biggest
• 1:09:26
  return of the Survivor series. But yeah, let's not talk about that one.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah, I'm not like I say, obviously, Yeah, the Comeback
• 1:09:34
  of the Year pretty much coincides with shocking moment of the year. For me,
• 1:09:39
  it's it's seem punk like because again, for all the reasons that we
• 1:09:43
  said already, you didn't think it was gonna happen, even for I don't
• 1:09:47
  think even the most ardent of CM punk supporters and fans thought that it was
• 1:09:55
  actually going to happen, and yet it did. So, Yeah, it
• 1:10:00
  come a completely stole all the thunder from Randy Orton. Like you could argue
• 1:10:05
  Randy Orton might have had come Back of the Year were it not for see
• 1:10:09
  him punk and instead he just had a moment on the show as opposed to
• 1:10:15
  Yeah, he just had a moment on the show as opposed to the moment
• 1:10:18
  of the show. Yeah. My honorable mentions is The Rock returning on SmackDown
• 1:10:26
  in Denver back in September. That was an awesome moment. It's always great
• 1:10:31
  seeing the Rock when he pops back up, especially because they know exactly how
• 1:10:35
  to get the most bang for their buck out of each moment. The way
• 1:10:41
  they just you know, lined it up perfectly. Put Austin theory in there
• 1:10:45
  talking all that shit with Pat McFee, who's already you know, over with
• 1:10:49
  the fans, and then they set it up so perfectly. He was like
• 1:10:55
  where Pat's talking to him, He's like, you're into people's house, do
• 1:10:59
  you know what that means? And everybody's like hold up, and then the
• 1:11:03
  music is and yeah, it's a great fucking moment. It was awesome.
• 1:11:08
  Mother. Honorable mention was John Cena returning to the w W during the writers
• 1:11:13
  strike, the writer slash screen Actors Guild strike. And that's especially noteworthy because
• 1:11:18
  it wasn't unlike the Rocks, it wasn't just a one time appearance, like
• 1:11:23
  JOHNSONA came back and gave us a genuine run for you know about what about
• 1:11:28
  a good month or two of appearances. So yeah, that's yeah, that's
• 1:11:33
  especially Yeah, that's especially noteworthy because you know, obviously he could have just
• 1:11:40
  been at the crib chilling and just like, yeah, absolutely value at the
• 1:11:44
  time that he puts in Now how like like for for any Johnson fans,
• 1:11:50
  like take this now, because like, motherfucker, it's just one day.
• 1:11:55
  It's just he's just not gonna be able to do it nowhere, So Yeah,
• 1:11:59
  yeah, you got. I appreciate that because, like, like I
• 1:12:00
  said, he did not have to do that. He could have just been
• 1:12:03
  at the crib chilling and just you know, or maybe just popped up one
• 1:12:09
  time and just like a yeah, I'm making with appearance on this episode,
• 1:12:13
  then I'm gonna go back to the crib and chill. But like, nah,
• 1:12:15
  he actually put in some time, showed up on a couple of episodes
• 1:12:18
  SmackDown, even bothered to show up on n x T. Yeah. So
• 1:12:23
  yeah, like certainly if Seeing Punk is my number one, then I would
• 1:12:29
  honestly John cena Is come would be my number two for comeback of the Year.
• 1:12:33
  Yeah, I mean, did anybody mention Cody Rhodes because his year started
• 1:12:43
  coming back from the PEC thing. He did technically come back at the like
• 1:12:49
  a foregone conclusion, but yeah, that would say was only out for like
• 1:12:55
  a handful of months. Yeah, her comeback wasn't Yeah she didn't come back,
• 1:13:02
  but it wasn't really that noteworthy. Yeah, she's just like okay,
• 1:13:06
  she's back, But they didn't really they didn't put a whole lot of build
• 1:13:10
  up behind it. Use I don't even remember she didn't come back at it
• 1:13:13
  did she even come back at the pl E or was it just an episode
• 1:13:15
  of SmackDown? I don't remember which Now. I think it's kind of shameful
• 1:13:20
  that they didn't really treat her coming back as a big deal. It was
• 1:13:24
  just like, oh, Beyoncus back, all right, cool. Yeah,
• 1:13:28
  it's like, well, I mean, that's just what happened to when you
• 1:13:30
  when you lose that momentum after losing your title, then you take some time
• 1:13:34
  off. It's just like I think, and I think that's part of it
• 1:13:39
  too, because everybody knew she was just she was just taking time off.
• 1:13:42
  Like yeah, it wasn't the kind of wrote her off TV. But it
• 1:13:45
  wasn't like she was out because she was legitimately injured or legitimately hurt or anything
• 1:13:48
  like that. Everybody knew she was just she had been going hard for the
• 1:13:53
  company all year and she just earned herself some good vacation time exactly. So
• 1:13:58
  like these wrestlers need to like you need a gimmick to cool off. Because
• 1:14:01
  of a gimmick or a certain person doesn't cool off and they're being shoved in
• 1:14:05
  your face every week, you're just gonna fucking hate him. You're just gonna
• 1:14:10
  hate him. So it's good to take somebody like Bianca, who some people
• 1:14:15
  would say at that time like towards the end of her run was getting kind
• 1:14:17
  of stale, and you know, it was nice to see her step away
• 1:14:24
  for a while, recharge your batteries, cool down for a bit, come
• 1:14:27
  back, and she's just like, you know what, She's still peak,
• 1:14:31
  She's still mean it man. So nothing's changed for me with her. She's
• 1:14:36
  still the badass that she's always been, even without the damn title. Like,
• 1:14:42
  there's so many matches, like I really want to see her and Jade
• 1:14:45
  Cargill go at it, like we'll see that, But I hope not.
• 1:14:51
  I hope not. Don't. No, I know, I don't let that.
• 1:14:56
  Yeah, let it no immediately there? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:03
  you know what I didn't. I guess I could put this a shocking
• 1:15:08
  moment. We already did that, I know, I know, I kinda
• 1:15:14
  kind of looking back at it here my paperwork, like I should have qualified
• 1:15:17
  it as a shocking moment. But I guess for all of us, this
• 1:15:19
  year was the wrestlers that we lost. We lost a lot of wrestlers this
• 1:15:26
  year, and probably the biggest notable one was Bray Wyatt. You know,
• 1:15:32
  we did a full episode on it, so if you want to listen to
• 1:15:34
  us give our thoughts on losing you know, bra Whittt. Obviously it was
• 1:15:39
  terrible, but we did a whole episode about it, so we don't we
• 1:15:45
  don't have that many episodes. It's not that far to dig back. But
• 1:15:48
  yeah, the stunning death of Bray White, so that I put that as
• 1:15:53
  a very shocking moment. Not you know, not all shocking moments are good
• 1:15:58
  moments. So, I mean, who else, Terry Funk? I mean,
• 1:16:02
  uh, Jay Brisco, the Iron Chic, Uh Superstar, Billy Graham,
• 1:16:11
  uh Uh, one of the Bushwhackers died in Butch I think uh uh
• 1:16:17
  Draws Oh fucking uh uh, Randy's brother leaping Landy Popo. Uh, Jeff
• 1:16:28
  Jarrett's dad, Jerry Jarrett promoter, he died. Who else? I'm sure
• 1:16:34
  I'm forgetting somebody. No, I don't know whatever. That's enough to be
• 1:16:45
  terrible. You know, that's very terrible. That's a huge list. Oh
• 1:16:49
  and it's sad, but it's gonna happen again this year. And you know,
• 1:16:55
  I've always like the Grim Reapers were like, you're always hanging out with
• 1:17:00
  Rick flair. You know that man is alive. That man it's still alive
• 1:17:08
  anyway. Oh yeah, let me tell you guys while you're wrong. Yeah,
• 1:17:14
  I mean, for me, there's only two choices, right. They
• 1:17:15
  both happened within ten minutes of each other. So it's a Punker is a
• 1:17:18
  Randy, right, But it's also come back of the year. And last
• 1:17:23
  time I checked, Pepsi Phil ain't wrestled yet, at least not on TV
• 1:17:27
  anyway, but Randall Keith Shore has Uh, so I'm going with the rand
• 1:17:32
  man. Oh you know in your mind they don't come back until they wrestle
• 1:17:36
  on TV. Yeah. Well, I knew he was coming. I was
• 1:17:42
  happier to see him, so I'm sure I am I biased a little bit,
• 1:17:45
  but he's already working and hunky. He's like, oh cool, you're
• 1:17:50
  here. When are you going to get back to work? Yeah, get
• 1:17:54
  back to work yet, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna acknowledge you until you
• 1:17:57
  get back to work. Man. No, that's cool, it's cool.
• 1:18:02
  Uh, you're right, dude. Back to back, same same pay per
• 1:18:05
  view. Oh and we had our truth that episode, I mean, damn
• 1:18:09
  all three the episode of returns. Yeah, it was awesome. It's just
• 1:18:15
  still glossing over the truth, still glossing over our truth. I was very
• 1:18:21
  happy when I saw our Truth for your information. And they're giving him stuff
• 1:18:25
  to do, which is great. And he's right, he's done the most
• 1:18:30
  work out of coming back. And he's funny. He's I mean, he's
• 1:18:33
  always funny, but they're letting him be funny and be consequential. Yes,
• 1:18:39
  he just recently did a tag match with him. Is like, yeah,
• 1:18:43
  awesome truth truth, Like, dude, at one point, awesome truth is
• 1:18:46
  to face John Cena and the Rock as in a tag match as the Brier
• 1:18:50
  series. That's the thing, Like, oh my gosh, that's that's an
• 1:18:58
  interesting master to go back to. Uh. Alright, moving right along here,
• 1:19:03
  Breakout Star of the Year, breakout star for UH. Let's see for
• 1:19:11
  me, it's it's pretty it's pretty obvious. It's l A Night. I
• 1:19:19
  knew we're gonna pick l A N knew it. Yeah, yeah, dude,
• 1:19:26
  how how could it not be like a huge rising star this year?
• 1:19:30
  You know, along with like uh, Solo Socoa was another big one for
• 1:19:38
  me. I think his his stock rose a lot this year. Jay usso
• 1:19:44
  for me as well as now as a singles competitor. I take him a
• 1:19:47
  hell of a lot more serious, especially more than Jimmy right now. You
• 1:19:54
  know. Uh, still I sat up mad respect for Sammy even though he
• 1:19:58
  he wasn't able to capture the title. Ah, you know, even though
• 1:20:06
  Sammy's been around for a while, still consider a breakout this year is his
• 1:20:12
  character just grew so much this year. But yeah it dude, it's l
• 1:20:18
  A. Knight. I mean, EO had a great year as well,
• 1:20:24
  but at the end of the day, for me, it's l. A.
• 1:20:26
  Knight's. It's a rising stock within two within two years of this company,
• 1:20:31
  guy goes from you know, a manager to you know, main eventing
• 1:20:38
  in a pay per view with Roman Reigns to have a top merch sales and
• 1:20:43
  all the catchphrases. You know. This year just I hear him everywhere.
• 1:20:49
  I hear it everywhere I go, and I think about it everywhere I go.
• 1:20:55
  You know, I can't, I can'tnot not think about it. So,
• 1:21:00
  Dre, what do you who do you have for like breakout start of
• 1:21:01
  the year. You know, there's probably a couple of people X team we
• 1:21:04
  could probably notably bring up even but who stands out for you, well,
• 1:21:11
  you know what tops, Yeah, what's that? Yeah, dude, Yes,
• 1:21:20
  my breakout Star of the Year is for me, it's actually a tie.
• 1:21:25
  I could not choose one over the other. So for me, it's
• 1:21:29
  a tie between main event Jay Usso and somebody that I'm surprised you did not
• 1:21:34
  mention unless I missed it, fucking dirty Dominick mystereo. Man, Come on,
• 1:21:44
  I should have also have picked. That was another good one I should
• 1:21:46
  have picked. But dude, you're absolutely right, fucking dirty dumb like Jay
• 1:21:51
  Usso. For one, Granted, he was he's been obviously he had the
• 1:21:57
  main event Moniker before this year, but he's always still just been a you
• 1:22:02
  know, a tag teamer, a part of you know, the Usso's only
• 1:22:06
  momentarily stepping out to as a single star when Jimmy was injured. This year,
• 1:22:12
  however, Jay Usso truly stepped out on his own and really solidified himself
• 1:22:17
  as somebody who can hang with the top of the WWE roster, you know,
• 1:22:24
  from and not just in terms of his work in the ring, but
• 1:22:28
  has his own stuff that solidifies him as an individual and has been one of
• 1:22:33
  to me, one of the best things that's happened, you know, in
• 1:22:36
  this year, is the USO splitting up and really starting to establish themselves as
• 1:22:43
  individuals. It's happened much more so on Jason because he's truly on his own
• 1:22:48
  on SmackDown, whereas Jimmy is still connected with the Bloodline on I mean,
• 1:22:54
  Jay stepped out on Raw. I was sorry. I just think about his
• 1:22:57
  blue gear he made SmackDown come to my mind. But yeah, Jimmy is
• 1:23:01
  still connected with the Bloodline on SmackDown, so he hasn't broken out as much
• 1:23:06
  as Jay has. Whereas Jay, he's over there on Raw. He you
• 1:23:11
  know, his music hits the crowd pops, he's got the crowd waving,
• 1:23:15
  he's got merched. That's you know, not just a shirt. It's a
• 1:23:18
  shirt that's moving, you know, from Yeat and you know, even making
• 1:23:25
  headlines because some other you know, random fucking West Virginia owned the copyrights and
• 1:23:30
  some ship that everybody fucking says similar, so that they made another Yeat shirt
• 1:23:36
  but it's blurred and then eventually copped up the money to get yeeped back because
• 1:23:42
  oh, this is actually making money for us, and we're not about to
• 1:23:45
  let this money. We're not about to lose this money because of some random
• 1:23:48
  fucking West Virginia. You know, that all speaks to Jay doing his thing,
• 1:23:55
  even winning the tag titles with Cody, you know, yeah, it
• 1:23:59
  was the tag titles again, but it was two top faces of the company.
• 1:24:03
  He was getting that number one baby face rubbed to a certain extent from
• 1:24:08
  Cody Rhodes End them doing that, and then again had a world title match
• 1:24:13
  with Seth Rollins and it was a great match. So yeah, he's he's
• 1:24:16
  absolutely broken out like a motherfucker this year, and you could easily say nobody
• 1:24:24
  would be surprised if they saw Jay Usso World Heavyweight Champion in twenty twenty four.
• 1:24:30
  Now, on the flip side of that, you've got arguably the MVP
• 1:24:35
  of WWE twenty twenty three, thirty Dominic Mysterio, the guy who started this
• 1:24:43
  year in the Judgment Day feuding with his dad at WrestleMania and a match that
• 1:24:48
  everybody pretty mchi knew all right, daddy gonna whoop his ass, and people
• 1:24:53
  just hated him because he was just he had much more goal weig heat in
• 1:24:58
  the beginning of the year, just like people just wanted to see him get
• 1:25:00
  his ass kick, nobody was really cared about him or invested in his character,
• 1:25:06
  and since then he has grown into being one of the top heels in
• 1:25:14
  the company. It's granted that you could argue whether people are booing him out
• 1:25:19
  of the building every time he talks, because it's just the thing to do
• 1:25:23
  now, like when somebody talks to a certain cadence and everybody breaks out the
• 1:25:27
  what. But the fact that they still do it to him and still do
• 1:25:31
  it with as much enthusiasm now that they did, you know, earlier in
• 1:25:38
  twenty twenty three, just shows how much people are still invested in him and
• 1:25:42
  his character. And he's been an absolute grinder this year, working tons of
• 1:25:48
  matches on you know, Rawl, NXT and SmackDown, even sometimes in the
• 1:25:55
  same week, being on all three shows, and you could argue that he,
• 1:26:01
  along with rear Ripley, those two have done more work to make excuse
• 1:26:09
  me, make Judgment Day the top a top heel faction in w W than
• 1:26:15
  anybody else in that group. Yeah, I mean, because Finn and I
• 1:26:17
  mean fennin uh, Damien and Damian Priests are obviously like the bigger names per
• 1:26:25
  se right in terms of like they're the ones winning the significant accolades in terms
• 1:26:29
  of the tag titles, money in the bank, they're the ones usually getting
• 1:26:31
  the matches with the top faces and stuff. But in terms of the ones
• 1:26:36
  who were doing the work and really getting that faction over and invested in by
• 1:26:44
  the fans, man, that was all Dirty Down along with Mommy. Yeah.
• 1:26:48
  I mean there's all the other the other stables that are out there,
• 1:26:55
  even in the past. Uh, you know they claim they're the best stable
• 1:26:59
  in all WWE. Well, I mean you have multiple rosters, you never
• 1:27:03
  truly know, but you know, these guys are going, like you said,
• 1:27:10
  to other rosters and basically establishing their dominance across the board. It's like,
• 1:27:15
  now we're not just gonna stay on SmackDown. We're gonna let you know
• 1:27:18
  we are dominant everywhere everywhere we go. We're gonna cause mayhem and destruction.
• 1:27:27
  Yeah, I absolutely agree, dude with with you know, Dirty Dom and
• 1:27:30
  jay Usso I even you know, it's kind of hard to break out stars.
• 1:27:38
  Sometimes gets really close to like one of my like wrestlers of the year,
• 1:27:43
  So I'll just put that in a different category. And let's not forget
• 1:27:48
  Dirty Dom also moved the needle like legitimately moved the needle. Episodes of NXC
• 1:27:57
  where he appeared, they saw spy in numbers, in ratings on episodes where
• 1:28:02
  Dominic Mysterio was there. His segments by themselves within the show saw spikes when
• 1:28:10
  he was on air in NXT. So yeah, he broke out like a
• 1:28:18
  mug Doyle. Who do you have that broke out? Maybe as much as
• 1:28:26
  as you neage your own prom night A couple of honorable mentions in my last
• 1:28:33
  non I guess WWE person, I want to talk about my Kingo. If
• 1:28:41
  you haven't seen this Sky, go find I can't put him as one of
• 1:28:45
  the best wrestlers of the air because his matches aren't that great. Go find
• 1:28:48
  a highlight reel. That's all you need to see. This Sky does shit
• 1:28:51
  you have never seen. It's unbelievable. That's all I can really say.
• 1:29:00
  I was fucking everywhere this year. But in terms of the main roster of
• 1:29:04
  the WWE, I can't go any NXT people because they haven't broken out yet.
• 1:29:12
  But yeah, I would definitely look at La Night, j Uzo,
• 1:29:15
  Zoe Stark, Santos Escobar, Dragon Lee, and maybe probably not around quite
• 1:29:23
  long enough. But the Creed Brothers. Probably next year we will say breakout
• 1:29:27
  stars for them. But this was a fucking no brainer for me. I
• 1:29:31
  mean, technically it was Christmas Eve of twenty twenty two the dominic mysterio was
• 1:29:36
  arrested, but it wasn't until the January second episode of Raw the prison dam
• 1:29:42
  was born and that kid took the fucking football and did he run with it.
• 1:29:48
  Man. I mean, the perfect mix of just fucking ridiculous while playing
• 1:29:54
  it straight as an arrow was just book yess. I mean, he's getting
• 1:30:00
  boot out of fucking buildings everywhere he goes, you know. And I think
• 1:30:04
  I spent half of the first half of the kind of singing his praises but
• 1:30:10
  saying that his in ring work really needed to catch up with his you know,
• 1:30:14
  promo work and his character work. But I think it largely has.
• 1:30:18
  You know, he had a great run with that NXT title. He have
• 1:30:24
  it with North America North American Title twice, Drey, you mentioned it.
• 1:30:29
  He's actually number two in matches in twenty twenty three with one hundred and six.
• 1:30:34
  Oh you want to know the rest of the top ten. Oh,
• 1:30:36
  I'm glad you do here it is Cody was number one with one hundred and
• 1:30:41
  thirteen. Seth had one hundred and five, Priests had one hundred, Theory
• 1:30:45
  n La Night had ninety eight, Gunther had ninety six, Ludvig Geyser had
• 1:30:53
  I can't read my writing ninety eight, Sammy had ninety four, and Finn
• 1:30:58
  had ninety. Anyway, so they got him out there, they got him
• 1:31:02
  working, they got him reps. And he's not real osprey, but you
• 1:31:06
  know what, he's one of the most improved guys or gal on the roster,
• 1:31:12
  you know. And how does the end the year by working with with
• 1:31:15
  punk in his first couple of matches on this holiday tour, they just did,
• 1:31:18
  you know, and and there's still room for improvement, you know.
• 1:31:23
  And I'm really excited. I mean, I think he's gonna maybe as soon
• 1:31:27
  as next year. Maybe probably not next year, maybe in two years,
• 1:31:30
  three years, might be vying for you know, male Superstar of the Year.
• 1:31:36
  I mean, I think this kid, if he keeps his head on
• 1:31:39
  right, he doesn't get hurt, you know what. You know, everything
• 1:31:41
  a lot of things have to go continue to go right. But the kid
• 1:31:45
  seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. He's not or on
• 1:31:48
  you know, and he grew up in the business, so he's gonna an
• 1:31:51
  innate thing that's just gonna be years ahead of anybody else anywhere. You know.
• 1:31:56
  You know, Bianca is an amazing athlete, but she was really on
• 1:31:59
  what cross fit or whatever. She She hasn't been living and breathing this business
• 1:32:02
  since she's fucking five years old, you know what I mean. Uh,
• 1:32:05
  there's just something he's gonna always have over anybody else. Uh. You know,
• 1:32:12
  I think he needs to put a little stize on still, but he's
• 1:32:15
  got all the tools. Man, this we may I think we're probably looking
• 1:32:18
  at the future world champion and this kid, Uh, I'm going to be
• 1:32:23
  around for a long long time. Yeah, oh yeah. If if you
• 1:32:27
  want to talk about somebody whose evolution is going to be must see over the
• 1:32:31
  next couple of years, you'd be hard pressed to think of anybody other than
• 1:32:36
  Dominic Mysterio. You look at where he is now and think about how much
• 1:32:42
  fans are booing this ship out of him, whether they're doing it because they
• 1:32:45
  genuinely hate him, or they're just doing it because it's the thing to do
• 1:32:48
  and it's fun to boo the crap out of them. Imagine what's gonna happen
• 1:32:54
  when those boozs start to turn to cheat Yep, when when he reconciles with
• 1:32:59
  Ray or something, whether he reconciles with Ray or if he happens to turn
• 1:33:02
  on the judgment day, if you know, if they whether he even if
• 1:33:06
  he breaks on with uh, with Mommy, say they say, Mommy finally
• 1:33:12
  does get over as a true heel as opposed to this one, that she's
• 1:33:15
  a heel that we all still love and she goes true hell and Dom breaks
• 1:33:19
  from her or whatever whatever happens when that turn starts to happen and those booths
• 1:33:27
  start to turn, the cheers, Oh, he's gonna be a huge.
• 1:33:30
  He's gonna fucking watch your back a l a night huge. He's absolutely going
• 1:33:36
  to fucking blow. And like I said, the evolution because you know I'll
• 1:33:42
  see him, you know once he is gonna just across the board, the
• 1:33:45
  evolution in his look and his style everything. And to your point you mentioned
• 1:33:49
  that uh he closed out the year wrestling see him punk. I don't think
• 1:33:56
  that was by coincidence or by absolutely not. That was that was partially one
• 1:34:02
  the company speaking to how much of their confidence in him, and probably to
• 1:34:08
  a certain extent, how much see him Punk uh believes in him that like,
• 1:34:12
  Hey, you're the guy I want to have my opening matches with because
• 1:34:15
  I see your work, I see how much you've grown in this ring.
• 1:34:19
  I know that I can have a good match with you because Punk maybe yeah,
• 1:34:28
  go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry, I would saying like you
• 1:34:31
  may see, like our Punk is obviously the bigger star of the two in
• 1:34:35
  the match, but in terms of the ring work, Dominic's is carrying Punk
• 1:34:42
  in that match because he's the one that's that's fresher. You know, I'm
• 1:34:45
  not saying that. You know, Punk is like you know, rusty as
• 1:34:48
  hell, but he has a certain level of rust on him. He hasn't
• 1:34:51
  wrestled in a while. You could tell his conditioning wasn't there. And the
• 1:34:56
  fact that you know, they went they turned to Dominic as the guy to
• 1:35:00
  get him through his first two matches. That says a lot to That says
• 1:35:03
  lots of what Punk season him and what the company sees, more importantly,
• 1:35:09
  what the company sees in Dominic Masterio. He's on his wave. Like if
• 1:35:13
  like you said, if you can keep his head on straight and you know,
• 1:35:15
  avoid the injury bug. Well, he's also in a super unique position
• 1:35:19
  where he's a super duper over heel, but he can afford to lose.
• 1:35:27
  So put up against somebody who're trying to get over as a baby face,
• 1:35:30
  because they're gonna cheer for whoever's going against Dominic because he's your biggest heal.
• 1:35:34
  But he's not one of these monster heels that can't lose, you know what
• 1:35:39
  I mean. He can lose and it doesn't really hurt him that much.
• 1:35:43
  You know, he lost to Raight in WrestleMania, and we knew he was
• 1:35:45
  gonna lose, and we knew he was gonna look like a little bitch while
• 1:35:47
  doing it. And guess what, how much did it hurt him? Not
• 1:35:50
  lick. In fact, I got him moreover, And I mean that's that's
• 1:35:56
  the sign of greatness, really, you know, if you can come out
• 1:35:59
  of a loss look and a loss where you look like a fucking little baby,
• 1:36:03
  uh getting slapped, you know, getting spanked by your daddy, literally,
• 1:36:10
  if you can turn that and come out even you know, more over
• 1:36:14
  on the other side of that, man, you got something you got Yeah,
• 1:36:19
  honestly, I would not be surprised if now there's maybe a bit a
• 1:36:25
  bit of a bit of a hot take, but I would not be surprised
• 1:36:28
  if at this year's WrestleMania, Dominate Material is involved in some sort of match
• 1:36:32
  for the Intercontinental Championship. That's possible. It's again hot take, but I
• 1:36:41
  don't I don't say hot take, would like you know, uh hotshot booking
• 1:36:45
  to per se, I don't think necessarily that the Intercontinental Championship match is going
• 1:36:49
  to be a one on one match. I could see it being some sort
• 1:36:56
  of again a triple thread or four men or something like that. And if
• 1:37:00
  it ends up being that, I could see Dominic Masterio being one of the
• 1:37:03
  three or four people involved in a matchup with the ICE title. I could
• 1:37:08
  certainly see him winning the Icy title or the US title this year. Yeah,
• 1:37:13
  this year definitely. All right, guys, Uh, let's move on.
• 1:37:19
  Let's uh, let's do promo of the year of the year. Uh.
• 1:37:28
  You know, I just jotted down a bunch of ones that stuck out
• 1:37:30
  to me this year. You know, there's some bullet points, but like
• 1:37:34
  I recommend you go onto YouTube and check some of these promos out. You
• 1:37:41
  know a lot of them just the way they were delivered, or the promo
• 1:37:46
  artist is just you know, just doing what they do and they just got
• 1:37:51
  on the mic. It's just something to go check out. Or you have
• 1:37:56
  two guys who are really good on the mic and you put them in this
• 1:37:58
  in the ring together, like l A. Knighton the MIZZ. You know,
• 1:38:01
  two guys who were good on the mic, put them in the ring
• 1:38:04
  together. They did. They did a great promo. You know, for
• 1:38:09
  me promo over the year. What really stuck out to me was when Jay
• 1:38:15
  was in the ring with the Bloodline telling Jimmy, you know, you know,
• 1:38:21
  I'm out, you out, I'm out, and then he super kicks
• 1:38:26
  you know Roman. I mean that whole promo breaking down how Jimmy was the
• 1:38:31
  better twin. You know, it was such a good promo and you know
• 1:38:36
  it's a shocking moment and it just went together so well. You know,
• 1:38:41
  you you have Cody Rhodes and and Roman Reigns talking to each other, you
• 1:38:45
  know, Roman pointing out, you know, do you ever win that belt?
• 1:38:49
  You ever compete for that one? You know talking about I was Daddy
• 1:38:54
  Ray. You know Cody Roads, Daddy raised him better than he did.
• 1:38:57
  You know. Uh, let's see, uh Oh there were Gunter put on
• 1:39:04
  some good promos, especially after defeating Chad Gable. Men stood on table just
• 1:39:10
  basically saying like, I'm just nobody is going to stop me. Nobody,
• 1:39:14
  And thus far he's held to that. We all you know, when Edge
• 1:39:21
  came or Edge Adam Copeland sorry came back to wrestling, he was aw and
• 1:39:30
  he cut a promo and Christian was in there, and you know that's how
• 1:39:34
  we get the infamous moment. You know, it went from a Christian just
• 1:39:42
  stay the heel. It didn't turn. He thought there might be a turning
• 1:39:46
  moment for Christian but no, no, he did not see the light.
• 1:39:51
  But uh, I'm sure you guys are gonna jog my memory with a bunch
• 1:39:55
  of other promos. Uh, Dre, what what kind of promos this year
• 1:40:00
  that you liked? Well? I I guess I should bring up like the
• 1:40:05
  CM punk pipe bomb, like when his night back. It's probably another large
• 1:40:11
  one to remember and to go watching anything that the Rock I guess has done.
• 1:40:16
  You know John CNN Austin theory. Sorry, it's just like a bunch
• 1:40:21
  of this is like johns my memory before he moved on. But yeah,
• 1:40:25
  Dre, what other ones Yeah, you've mentioned some of the promos that I
• 1:40:30
  already thought that I was gonna already gonna bring up as far as the horrorable
• 1:40:33
  mention was like the the Jade and Jimmy USO promo where Yeah, he talked
• 1:40:40
  all that stuff about you know, I was looking up to you, you
• 1:40:42
  know what I'm saying. I was trying to be like you, you know
• 1:40:44
  what I'm saying and all that, and you know you out guess what I'm
• 1:40:47
  out to eat super kick to Roman's face. That was a standout one.
• 1:40:54
  Yeah, the one between uh what you said before he No, he didn't
• 1:41:05
  say, but anybody who truly knows the power of he knows he can be
• 1:41:12
  applied in a multitude of situations. But uh, also the one you mentioned
• 1:41:18
  also John Cena and Austin Theory, that promo they had going into WrestleMania were
• 1:41:25
  seeing it just kind of just basically tore Austin Theory, tore him down.
• 1:41:30
  I was one of seen his best promos in a good while. The other
• 1:41:36
  one I would uh bring up, excuse me, other honorable mentions I would
• 1:41:45
  have outside of those aren't really necessarily promos, but just lines that really stuck
• 1:41:56
  out. To me this year one you've played multiple times to about this episode,
• 1:42:00
  and that was Christian Cage to Adam Copeland's go fuck yourself. That was
• 1:42:04
  just like the perfect Yeah. It was the perfect singular response to this long,
• 1:42:12
  passionate promo that Adam Coplan's given to Christians about remember of this and dad
• 1:42:16
  and kids and yeah, yeah, let's get the game back together, let's
• 1:42:19
  do a thing again. Christians is like, go fuck yourself and walks off.
• 1:42:27
  It was it was, It was perfect. It was a perfect response,
• 1:42:30
  a perfect heel response to just shit on everything and piss on all the
• 1:42:34
  fans's hopes of getting an edging Christian reunion. It's like, nah, go
• 1:42:40
  fuck yourself. Another line that really stuck out to me as just one of
• 1:42:47
  the Another line that was stuck out was, you know Rady Orton returning and
• 1:42:54
  talking to mommy, Uh well, mommy fucking put my shit together, ar
• 1:42:58
  Ripley about you look at Yeah, he's talking to her and you know,
• 1:43:10
  she's talking about mommy and all this, and he's like, well, guess
• 1:43:12
  what, daddy's home. That was a fucking bar. And I'm glad that
• 1:43:17
  he hasn't milked that too much because you can't. You can't get so much
• 1:43:21
  knowledge out of a line like that. It was perfect for that moment,
• 1:43:25
  but you know, you can't be saying Daddy's home in March like motherfucker.
• 1:43:30
  You've been back for a while, soit now. But that was another noteworthy
• 1:43:34
  one. One of the best lines I heard this year, just singular lines,
• 1:43:42
  came from Becky Lynch when she was talking in her few with Naya Jacks
• 1:43:47
  and tearing on her. And the line was, and I quote Becky Lynch
• 1:43:55
  said, when talking about Naya Jacks, I went on the main event Wrestle
• 1:44:00
  Media. She went on to have double a c L surgery because Naya is
• 1:44:04
  a woman so unlikable that even her own knees won't stand up for her right
• 1:44:15
  dropped the bomb on her. I was like, shit, was like,
• 1:44:21
  yo, you gotta fight her for real for that one, because damn that
• 1:44:26
  ship was a bar. But overall, my promo over the year would be
• 1:44:38
  uh, Cody Roads and Roman Reigns, the promo they cut on the March
• 1:44:44
  third episode of SmackDown when you referenced Wayne about going into wrestle Media. I
• 1:44:48
  went back and watched that promo and that was that was Roman Reigns at his
• 1:44:56
  peak. That was him at his absolute best in that ring of just I
• 1:45:01
  am the fucking shit, I am up here and all the rest of you
• 1:45:06
  motherfuckers are down here. Yeah, like just absolutely standing excuse me, in
• 1:45:15
  his dominant position as the tribal chief when he said that line to Cody of
• 1:45:23
  have you ever challenged for this one? Or damn excuse me, let me
• 1:45:32
  ask you again, have you ever even wrestled for this one? Have you
• 1:45:38
  ever been in the main event? I mean that shit he was saying to
• 1:45:42
  Cody. Sorry, but that shit he was saying to Cody was just absolutely
• 1:45:48
  destroying Cody. And going back and watching that promo, I don't know how
• 1:45:55
  the hell I thought Cody was gonna win, because, again, like I
• 1:46:03
  said, with Roman's cutting that promo, you can clearly see the difference in
• 1:46:09
  level of where Cody's at. Even as hot as Cody was in that moment
• 1:46:13
  and riding that wave and the whole story thing, Roman just cut that promo
• 1:46:18
  so confidently, so smoothly, so effortlessly that he really just made himself look
• 1:46:27
  superior to Cody, and damn there every way, and for as much passion
• 1:46:35
  excuse me, good god, y'all. Yeah, fu me, I was.
• 1:46:41
  I had COVID last week some studies. You know, I got that
• 1:46:43
  lingering call from it. But Cody get did everything he could coming back in
• 1:46:47
  that promo, trying to, you know, talk about his passion and be
• 1:46:54
  as and as enthusiastic as he could be because Roman in this promo he talked
• 1:47:01
  about Dusty and you know, you know, Dusty taught me everything, and
• 1:47:08
  we talked and all this stuff and about this that and third, and you
• 1:47:12
  know what he used to say about you, nothing We never right. That
• 1:47:18
  was a fucking line. It was like, we never talked about you.
• 1:47:23
  It was just like and you just see him just tearing down Cody, and
• 1:47:26
  it's like, fuck, Cody, you need to swing on this man.
• 1:47:30
  This man is just killing you right now. And you know he finished him
• 1:47:34
  off with that line of like anything and don't worry anything. Your daddy didn't
• 1:47:38
  teach you, don't worry I'm gonna teach you like God damn. And like
• 1:47:45
  I said, bless Cody's hard because he tried his best to come back from
• 1:47:47
  that from that promo and you know, talk about you know, I see
• 1:47:51
  now that I have to prove that I matter and this, that and third
• 1:47:55
  and made it basically about him. And his response to Roman was like,
• 1:48:00
  mm hmmm, I'm sorry, Cody, your promo, Yeah, you got
• 1:48:02
  the fire and the passion and also but your shit just ain't hitting like what
• 1:48:06
  Roman just hit you with. Yeah. For me, that was my promo
• 1:48:13
  of the year because Roman, like I said, was fully in his bag
• 1:48:16
  in that moment. And mind you, this is a guy that people used
• 1:48:19
  to say suck sucked on the mic. Yeah, people used to say Roman
• 1:48:25
  was not that great on the mic, and yet got into he got to
• 1:48:29
  that point in that promo. Yeah. Uh, Doyle Man, Oh a
• 1:48:38
  couple other ones you guys haven't mentioned. Uh, this one was really simple.
• 1:48:43
  But Sammy, right before the elimination chamber when it was it was just
• 1:48:47
  basically the crowd cheered for like it seemed like twenty minutes and he just said
• 1:48:53
  like he said like three sentences. He spoke a little French Canadian and that
• 1:48:58
  was it was just like fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like
• 1:49:01
  I forget what he said in French, but you know, like the crowd
• 1:49:04
  are fucking like, I don't know, there was just so emotion. Yeah,
• 1:49:11
  I mean, like I didn't understand a look of French. But I
• 1:49:15
  was like, like, I was like in it, like let's fucking go.
• 1:49:20
  But yeah, there was a great promo with Hayman and Cody and you
• 1:49:27
  know in the lead up to WrestleMania, also of course about Dusty, you
• 1:49:31
  know, and how Hayman had brought him into E c W or something for
• 1:49:36
  for you know, like one match for something or what. I don't I
• 1:49:40
  don't really remember, but uh, yeah it was another It was a great
• 1:49:44
  you know, uh making up for lack of Roman actually being there. The
• 1:49:49
  first time Shinski did the promo with the subtitles, I thought it was brilliant.
• 1:49:56
  I loved it. And then of course they overdid the funk out of
• 1:49:58
  it and now it annoys the sh out of me. But the first time
• 1:50:00
  it was badass fucked, I thought. And then Shatzi when she shaved her
• 1:50:06
  head, I thought that was great. And then you find out her sister
• 1:50:12
  had cancer, so she was doing one of those you know, head shave
• 1:50:15
  and solid airity kind of deals, you know, really touching thing. But
• 1:50:19
  unfortunately that never really led anywhere. So you can't get that excited about something
• 1:50:27
  that didn't go anywhere. But I thought in the moment. That was pretty
• 1:50:30
  cool, But none of you mentioned my promo of the year. It's from
• 1:50:34
  the September fourth episode of Raw, And when I saw it, I said,
• 1:50:39
  oh my god, that segment was the promo of the year. I
• 1:50:42
  can't imagine anything's gonna come better than that, and nothing did. And I
• 1:50:47
  really think, you know, as much as I sing this guy's praises every
• 1:50:51
  chance I get, I really think, like in ten fifteen years, whenever
• 1:50:56
  they're making a documentary about this wrestler's career, I think this is gonna be
• 1:51:00
  a thing. A moment they talk about my promo the year is the Miz
• 1:51:05
  interviewing and then fighting an invisible John Cena just absolutely fucking brilliant. Uh.
• 1:51:15
  You know, from the cameraman following invisible John Cena around uh, to the
• 1:51:21
  Miz just playing it straight as a fucking arrow at first. Anyway, he
• 1:51:26
  hid the crowd in the palm of his hand. He got a holy shit
• 1:51:30
  chant during the promo, uh you know, Uh, and then he drops
• 1:51:34
  all this chili. He cuts a badass promo in l a night. Uh.
• 1:51:39
  It's just a fucking brilliant segment. Uh, and just show us have
• 1:51:42
  fucking awesome. Uh no pun intended. The mis is it's just a fucking
• 1:51:46
  brilliant segment. That's awesome. Another one I want to give a shout out
• 1:51:58
  to. It's not really a promo or a bar per se but it is
• 1:52:01
  a moment that it was a real standout moment in twenty twenty three and for
• 1:52:10
  me, that is uh, excuse me, fuck me. Selena Vega at
• 1:52:20
  Backlash before the match and after the match, when the crowd gave that chant
• 1:52:27
  of yo soba Paulo Seppas to her, that was one of my favorite moments.
• 1:52:32
  And like I said, I don't know of another category to fit it
• 1:52:35
  into, so I'm gonna throw it here in Promo of the Year. But
• 1:52:40
  those that chanting in that moment, and you could see how much it truly
• 1:52:43
  meant to her to want to be puh performing in Puerto Rico, you know,
• 1:52:48
  in front of her her people, and then them embracing her and giving
• 1:52:54
  her that moment and that chant excuse me again. One of my favorite moments
• 1:53:01
  of the year and one of the few moments in the year that genuinely made
• 1:53:04
  me emotional watching again seeing her and decked out in the awesome ring gear with
• 1:53:13
  the Puerto Rican flag and all that stuff, and they're just giving her all
• 1:53:17
  their love and all that chinting and like I said, and she's just taking
• 1:53:24
  it all in and you can see how much it's resonating with her. I
• 1:53:29
  remember praising Ria Ripley in the moment also because she knew to just get out
• 1:53:32
  of there, you know what I mean. She didn't hang around and try
• 1:53:35
  to get the heat back on her or whatever. You know, she saw
• 1:53:39
  what was happening and just high tailed out of there and let that happen.
• 1:53:42
  When that, you know, Props to her for that exactly. Yeah,
• 1:53:45
  they let her have She let her have that moment, even in defeat,
• 1:53:48
  and it was Yeah, it was a phenomenal moment. All right. Dwindling
• 1:53:56
  down our categories here, we got a few handful left hair. All right,
• 1:54:00
  we're gonna go over. Tag Team of the Year. Tag Team of
• 1:54:05
  the Year. Play a little jingle of music because I don't have a bumper
• 1:54:11
  for that, not yet, we don't have that kind of money. But
• 1:54:14
  uh, Tag Team of the Year. I mean, like, I was
• 1:54:20
  really really happy to see Ko and Sammy together. I loved that they had
• 1:54:26
  their WrestleMania moment they main invented a WrestleMania. A tag team main invented a
• 1:54:31
  WrestleMania. It was it was phenomenal, like it was, it was,
• 1:54:36
  the story was all there. They had a moment. I honestly had more
• 1:54:42
  fun Night one than I did. I too, and that tag match had
• 1:54:45
  a lot to Yeah, and you know, you know, even though they're
• 1:54:53
  not a tag team no longer. This this year of the Ussos, you
• 1:54:57
  know, had a great year as well, but a great story, great
• 1:55:00
  chemistry. Uh you know where they are now obviously they're not together, but
• 1:55:05
  like it's because of that, like, like the story was crazy this year
• 1:55:11
  for the Bloodline Alpha Academy. You know, I put them up there with
• 1:55:16
  Imperium as well, because there are two tag teams that haven't won the gold
• 1:55:23
  you know, this year. But they've been on Rawl every week or smack
• 1:55:28
  Down. They've been on TV consistently, you know, and they're they're having
• 1:55:33
  backstage segments consistently, you know, just recently coming back together, coming back
• 1:55:42
  from an injury pretty deadly. They're slowly, slowly starting to grow on me,
• 1:55:50
  you know, damage Control. You know, they've been down, you
• 1:55:56
  know, some people in their group and then up some so they up and
• 1:56:00
  down year with injuries. Uh, you know, they were pretty dominant tag
• 1:56:05
  team, you know, maybe not for the women's tag titles. I mean,
• 1:56:10
  they kind of floundered this year. They were Chelsea and multiple other tag
• 1:56:16
  partners. I can't remember too much of the women's tag titles where they've been
• 1:56:20
  going. That just shows how notable it was this year for the women's tag
• 1:56:27
  titles. Alexa and Raquel had them. I think Cromile Alexa heard Becky and
• 1:56:35
  lay Right titles. Yes, yeah, so, I mean, yeah,
• 1:56:45
  a lot a lot happened, I guess I guess a lot did happen to
• 1:56:48
  women's t test, But that only fat short amount of time because then,
• 1:56:53
  yeah, listen, they were still on TV from week to week. What
• 1:57:01
  else do we have tag teams? Oh? Uh, Finn and Damie,
• 1:57:06
  Well, I guess you can any members of the Judgment Day just you know,
• 1:57:11
  there's they beat Kevin Owens and Sammy h. Then they lost the tag
• 1:57:15
  titles for a short time to Cody and j weird weird pairing, I would
• 1:57:24
  say, speaking of weird parons, we we got them on Monday on Raw.
• 1:57:29
  We'll probably never get them again. But the new shows I loved the
• 1:57:32
  news shows. Yeah, KOFE and Jay and I think like a like a
• 1:57:39
  what if or like alternate universe, uh where they had a run as a
• 1:57:43
  tag team. I think would be a lot of fun. Yeah. Actually
• 1:57:46
  I was pretty excited for that match, and unfortunately it didn't go for it.
• 1:57:51
  But uh, yeah, I kinda hoping a little bit more for street
• 1:58:00
  profits this year that they're they're they're not treading water, they're slowly swimming.
• 1:58:08
  They're getting somewhere, somewhere, slowly, but they're getting somewhere. Uh.
• 1:58:13
  You know, Chase University has been done very well in n X t Uh.
• 1:58:16
  They got d I Y back together this year. I was really happy
• 1:58:20
  about that. You know, things don't look too good for the brawling brutes.
• 1:58:26
  They look like that's another group that's gonna be breaking up soon. You
• 1:58:30
  know. Let's let's talk about you know, big one was the lw O
• 1:58:34
  getting together. You know, at the beginning of the year, they weren't
• 1:58:42
  a thing, you know, and then they end up kind of being a
• 1:58:45
  big thing at the Backlash pay per view, which is great. I love
• 1:58:50
  that pay per view. There's a great pay per view. But yeah,
• 1:58:55
  now they have so many members that they were actually able to break it up
• 1:58:59
  into a totally different stable and add two more people. So uh yeah,
• 1:59:06
  you know, l Olivia is doing their thing. Unfortunately, it kind of
• 1:59:12
  felt like New Day was kind of floundering this year. They did win the
• 1:59:15
  n XT tag titles, but I think they lost. Yeah, so that
• 1:59:23
  that's kind of notable what they did this year. They've kind of been taking
• 1:59:29
  like a backseat and putting some guys over this year. Uh, No,
• 1:59:32
  big issue with that. The o C after aj Styles kind of got injured,
• 1:59:39
  nothing happened with them. They they meet Chen joined them. Luke Gallas
• 1:59:45
  and Carl Anderson haven't. I haven't seen them in a while. And Adrian
• 1:59:49
  Styles is back. Uh yeah. One of the Vikings got hurt. Yeah,
• 1:59:57
  one of the Raiders got hurt. So it's weird, like yeah,
• 2:00:04
  yeah, so we did have some injuries too that put some tag teams out,
• 2:00:10
  you know. Ah, it's been a rough year for tag teams unfortunately.
• 2:00:17
  Sure, and then we got like Indus year and another new group put
• 2:00:21
  together. But A Town down Under was a tag team that I wanted together
• 2:00:33
  that nobody else wanted together. And I was like these two guys like there's
• 2:00:41
  two guys that you people hate, put them together. Like the only thought,
• 2:00:45
  the way I thought that could be even better is if you would put
• 2:00:47
  fucking heel Miss and Maurice into a stable with them, Like that would be
• 2:00:54
  like an annoying group of people that I just hate, you know, right,
• 2:01:00
  I mean talking about major heaves those people coming out, you know.
• 2:01:08
  But Dre, what I miss here? Any notable tag teams to stick out
• 2:01:13
  to you? What was your favorite baby tag team of the year? Again,
• 2:01:17
  like I said, this was a this was a real rough year for
• 2:01:20
  tag teams, at least in the WWE, because there was no one tag
• 2:01:27
  team that really stood out above the rest. And really this year not like
• 2:01:31
  last year where it was, you know, far and away the usso's last
• 2:01:35
  year were the best tag team, but this year there were a number of
• 2:01:41
  one well one of the women's tag team division has just been an absolute cluster.
• 2:01:45
  So we don't we don't need to do all on that too much,
• 2:01:49
  but it's been a cluster. There have been some but there's been a potential
• 2:01:56
  there, but none of it's been fully realized that much. I mean,
• 2:02:01
  think about it. Earlier this year, we thought there was potential in Ronda
• 2:02:05
  Rousey and SHANEA Basler as a tag team that turned into a cluster and fizzled.
• 2:02:13
  Chelsea Green and Sonya Deville. We thought there was potential there, and
• 2:02:16
  Sonya Deville unfortunately got injured. Chelsea Green and Piper Niven this is a cute
• 2:02:24
  thing for a while. Really, the only real shining, best shining example
• 2:02:30
  from the Women's Tag Team Division this year has been the emergency towards the end
• 2:02:35
  of this year of Caden Carter and Katana Chance. Yeah. I like them,
• 2:02:42
  Yeah, I love them as a tag team. Like They're about the
• 2:02:45
  only thing that gives me any hope for the Women's Tag Team Division n WWE,
• 2:02:49
  because one, they're a legitimate tag team. They work great together as
• 2:02:55
  a tag team, better than quite frankly, any other and them pairing that
• 2:03:00
  WWE has thrown together, so they stand out. So I got to give
• 2:03:06
  them a Caden Carter and Katana a chance to shout out among tag teams of
• 2:03:12
  the year, even with their even though they pop came onto the scene pretty
• 2:03:15
  late in the year, despite having been on Raw for a good chunk of
• 2:03:19
  the year. But ultimately I think my tag team of the Year I gave
• 2:03:26
  it to Sammy's Ain and Kevin Owens. Before I get into them, I
• 2:03:30
  would say that probably one of the best tag teams of the year probably did
• 2:03:34
  not come from WWE. It probably would have come from AW in terms of
• 2:03:38
  FTR, but that's neither hear or there. And again, I don't follow
• 2:03:42
  that product enough to really speak on them with any real level of credibility,
• 2:03:45
  but I do know that they've been doing some excellent work down there in ADAW
• 2:03:50
  and if I was following that product more, I would probably give them my
• 2:03:54
  Tag Team of the Year, but I can't, so I'm gonna go with
• 2:03:58
  Sammy's Ain and Kevin Owens as my Tag team of the Year, just because
• 2:04:01
  one them coming together as a tag team was a moment that fans were eagerly
• 2:04:08
  anticipating in how highly looking forward to it. When it finally happened, fans
• 2:04:13
  were all for it and popped huge for it. They won the titles at
• 2:04:18
  you know, the grandest stage of them all in WrestleMania. That was a
• 2:04:23
  great moment for them, and then from there they had a strong, pretty
• 2:04:27
  strong run as champions, with the numerous title defenses, great matches, excellent
• 2:04:33
  chemistry, where they played off each other well and then and and to top
• 2:04:41
  it off, they lost it in a match of significance. They didn't just
• 2:04:45
  lose it in some shot in some hot shot booking or some random bullshit like
• 2:04:51
  them losing actually losing the tag team titles felt like a moment this year when
• 2:04:57
  it happened, wasn't like other tag teams losses. It wasn't like when Cody
• 2:05:02
  and j lost the titles back to Judgment Day it was like we was like,
• 2:05:05
  Okay, that's over with like that. That didn't feel like it had
• 2:05:10
  any impact or any you know, anything to it. When Sammy's A and
• 2:05:15
  Kevin Owens lost their lost the tag team titles to Judge the Day, that
• 2:05:18
  felt momentous and that speaks to how good they were together as a tag team.
• 2:05:27
  So for for my money, my tag team of the Year would be
• 2:05:30
  Sammy's A and Kevin Owens, even if they didn't last the full year.
• 2:05:36
  Yeah, I think they made the They made the most out of the time
• 2:05:40
  that they had as a tag team, more so than probably any other tag
• 2:05:44
  team this year. Doyle, what do you got man? Yeah, I
• 2:05:48
  mean a couple other a W tag teams. I would I would give honorable
• 2:05:55
  mention too. Besides the FTR uh, it would be Ausie Open and the
• 2:05:59
  Acclaim Aim. But yeah, in terms of w w E, uh,
• 2:06:03
  you know, I think we had some decent tag matches, but yeah,
• 2:06:08
  as we've all kind of gone over, uh, not really a lot of
• 2:06:12
  great teams. So yeah, I gave it to Sammy and Ko as well.
• 2:06:15
  They kind of win by default, which isn't to say they had a
• 2:06:17
  bad year. I mean as as I think Wayne said, first tag team
• 2:06:21
  to main event WrestleMania, uh since WrestleMania won, you know, and they
• 2:06:28
  beat one of the greatest tag teams of all time, uh in the Uzo's
• 2:06:31
  r I P. You know, and then they held the titles for like
• 2:06:34
  six months. They defended them a pretty good amount. Uh. They almost
• 2:06:39
  got him back I think twice, and they were always entertaining matches. Uh,
• 2:06:45
  you know, in a kind of a down year for tag team wrestling.
• 2:06:48
  You know, that's that's good enough at least, it's yeah, yeah,
• 2:06:54
  Ko, Sammy kind of by default awesome. Yeah. All right,
• 2:07:02
  Well we're gonna take a quick break so I can get something to drink.
• 2:07:09
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• 2:07:16
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• 2:07:19
  the second I start talking again, my throat's gonna be like I'm dry.
• 2:07:25
  So all right, well, let's take a let's take a quick break.
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• 2:08:05
  back. Uh, guys, let me ask you something. Would you rather
• 2:08:11
  work with a unsafe Naya jacks A or a unsafe ride back or a drunk
• 2:08:24
  Jeff Hardy Nia Jackson? Alright, I think quick, Jeff hard He's just
• 2:08:33
  gonna fall down. Look, stupid. Yeah, yeah, just gonna be
• 2:08:35
  on you, right. Yeah. I think it might take Jeff. As
• 2:08:39
  long as he doesn't vomit on me. I think we're good. Yeah,
• 2:08:46
  ke on me. Yeah, give me Nia Jacks, because ultimately it's gonna
• 2:08:50
  end with her sitting on my face. Whoa, yeah right, break your
• 2:08:56
  chest in the process. I mean, she bosses the ship out out of
• 2:09:00
  it, come slamming down on your chest, playing at a rybak. Pi's
• 2:09:03
  gonna drop you on your spine. Sh It's I don't even know. I
• 2:09:09
  don't even know. And I was pondering it, and he goes keep me
• 2:09:13
  up late at night. You know, I got I got the better on
• 2:09:16
  him. So h all right, we got three left. Let's talk about
• 2:09:24
  the male and female wrestler of the year. Uh cool. Uh. Female
• 2:09:37
  Wrestler of the Year for me, Uh, it was pretty simple for me.
• 2:09:41
  Uh it was ri of Ripley for me. Uh. Not only has
• 2:09:46
  she been top of the charts for the p w I ratings, you know
• 2:09:52
  consistently. Uh she's number one even this week, she has been on TV
• 2:10:01
  Raw SmackDown NXT. Uh. Yeah, she hasn't put on defended her matches
• 2:10:11
  or defended her title as many times as she should. But guess what,
• 2:10:13
  neither's Roman. But she's at least there. Same thing with Logan Paul.
• 2:10:18
  You know, she's at least there every week, every almost every episode she
• 2:10:24
  can. She's definitely been the workhorse of the women's division this year. Granted,
• 2:10:31
  you know there's other women who stick out like EO sticks out. Just
• 2:10:35
  the women in in You know that that group together just have been busting their
• 2:10:41
  ass. Uh. You know you could even say, like down on NXT,
• 2:10:46
  you have Tishy Stretton and and core Jade and also Chelsea Green can definitely
• 2:10:56
  shine this year, making her out of all the people that Triple A is
• 2:11:01
  hired to come back, she seems like the only one who's worth the money.
• 2:11:05
  Uh. And then we talked about over in a w what Tony Storm
• 2:11:09
  has been doing uh and and Trinity over and Impact Wrestling. So at the
• 2:11:18
  end of the day, for the women, for me, it's gotta be
• 2:11:22
  Ria and I'm just gonna do these back to back for me and the male
• 2:11:30
  uh for the year is gonna be seth Rawlins again a workhorse for this year.
• 2:11:37
  He had a couple of good feuds this year. I think with with
• 2:11:46
  some people. He wasn't a bland and born champion. A lot of the
• 2:11:50
  times I thought he was gonna lose the title this year. Uh and and
• 2:11:54
  didn't. Uh yeah, he kept he kept think he's relevant. He raised
• 2:12:03
  the status of that title very quickly. Uh. You know, for being
• 2:12:07
  the title, it has to stand side to side with whatever Roman has,
• 2:12:11
  you know, I mean, this is the world title. It's supposed to
• 2:12:13
  mean just as much. Right. I think Seth has done that this year.
• 2:12:18
  Uh uh you know, right right under set too. If you want
• 2:12:24
  to put a good working you know, another workhorse, it would be gon
• 2:12:30
  Th. This guy is undefeated basically. I mean, this guy has not
• 2:12:33
  lost his damn title this year. He's had a very nice year, put
• 2:12:39
  on some killer stellar matches this year as well. So, uh, you
• 2:12:46
  know, I did see like some people, you know what, maybe maybe
• 2:12:50
  I'll bring it up some other picks, you know that some of the people
• 2:12:56
  picked. Maybe I'll bump heads with that. We'll see what you guys pick.
• 2:13:01
  Dre, who do you have for female and male wrestler of the year.
• 2:13:05
  That's that really shined for you? Okay, So starting with my women's
• 2:13:11
  Wrestler of the Year, Yeah, Ray Ripley would be an obvious choice seemingly,
• 2:13:18
  however, she's not my Women's Wrestler of the Year. And everything that
• 2:13:24
  you said about her was completely correct and valid in terms of her being an
• 2:13:28
  absolute workhorse and everything she's put in in WWE. She has been the champion.
• 2:13:33
  She's been at the top. She's been grinding on like you said,
• 2:13:37
  Raw and SmackDown and NXT and she, along with Dom had pretty much turned
• 2:13:45
  Judgment Day into the top faction in the WWE, and she's, like I
• 2:13:50
  said, been absolutely at the top. The thing that I hold against her,
• 2:13:54
  though, is the fact that her title reign throughout this year has been
• 2:13:58
  overall very lackluster. For the entire She won that thing at WrestleMania, and
• 2:14:05
  she's really only had one noteworthy feud since then, and that was her feud
• 2:14:11
  with Raquel Rodriguez. Other than that, it's just been damn near basically treated
• 2:14:18
  the whole raw raw women's roster like jobbers to her, rather than somebody building
• 2:14:24
  up an actual feud with her and actually challenging her through some through a well
• 2:14:30
  developed feud, it's just been all right, here's the next woman to step
• 2:14:33
  up and say they want to fight you and beat them down, And they
• 2:14:37
  even went the route of just alright, would you gonna take all these women
• 2:14:41
  and throw them in a match together just because we all don't like each other
• 2:14:46
  and somehow we're all challenging for your title two at the same time, Like
• 2:14:54
  that's the only thing I'm really old against And it's not really Rhea's fault,
• 2:14:58
  but I to blame somebody. And since we talking about Women's Wrestler of the
• 2:15:01
  Year, in terms of judging who's been the best, I kind of got
• 2:15:05
  to count that against her, the fact that she's had a lackluster run as
• 2:15:09
  champion. So the person who has not had as lackluster or run as champion,
• 2:15:13
  who is in fact my Women's Wrestler of the Year is Eo Sky because
• 2:15:18
  she has really won me over in this year. Starting out as believe they
• 2:15:26
  were, she was the Women's Tag Team Champions alongside Dakota Kai at the beginning
• 2:15:28
  of the year, and going on from there to having a great match with
• 2:15:37
  Bianca bel Air at Backlash, challenging for the Raw Women's Championship, to continue
• 2:15:45
  to haveing great matches, and then winning the Money in the Bank briefcase and
• 2:15:50
  then cashing it in a what was that Summer Slam? Correct A'm I not
• 2:15:54
  mistaken? Or was it payback after Summer Slam? I think? But when
• 2:16:00
  she cashed in the money in the bank briefcase to win and become a raw
• 2:16:05
  women's champion, And since she's become champion, she's had multiple title defenses,
• 2:16:11
  almost all of them have been great matches. My only the only thing I
• 2:16:16
  can really complain about as far as her matches and her title defenses is just
• 2:16:20
  the fact that she hasn't won her matches cleanly. It's always been interference from
• 2:16:30
  Bailey and Damage Control helping her keep the titles. But that's just my own
• 2:16:33
  personal gripe. Like I understand it from a storyline standpoint, she's in a
• 2:16:37
  faction. Obviously the faction is gonna help the champion stay on top. But
• 2:16:41
  I appreciate the fact that on her end, she wants to win clean she
• 2:16:46
  wants to stand on her own and defend it, and I'm looking forward to
• 2:16:50
  seeing what she does in twenty twenty four. I'd like to see her merger
• 2:16:54
  become the leader of Damage Control, ousting Bailey in the process, but that
• 2:16:58
  remains to be seen. She had one of the best matches of the year
• 2:17:03
  with OSCA and their WW Women's title match. So yeah, overall, my
• 2:17:11
  women's rest of the year is EO Sky. My runner up Bailey because she's
• 2:17:16
  also been an absolute workhorse. She's taken a lot of l's in matches this
• 2:17:20
  year, but she's really been an absolute workhorse throughout the entire year, so
• 2:17:26
  she's my runner up. Now on the men's side, my runner up is
• 2:17:35
  Seth Rawlins because, like you said before, he's actually he's been the workhorse
• 2:17:39
  this year. He's been grinding it out the entire year. They with WW
• 2:17:45
  decided that they had to have another title because Roman was monopolizing the championship and
• 2:17:52
  not being on TV enough and they needed another title. They chose who better
• 2:17:58
  to put it on than Seth Rollins, And he's put in the work since
• 2:18:03
  then of elevating that title to relevance or at least to respectability, since from
• 2:18:11
  being you know, looked at as that of the Consolation Prize or the far
• 2:18:18
  far number two belt, like here's here's the other championship. No, here's
• 2:18:24
  the you're not the man, but you can have this belt championship. And
• 2:18:26
  he's elevated it to a point where I think most people look at it now
• 2:18:31
  as a respectable world title. If somebody wins that world title, they are
• 2:18:37
  just looked at as, Okay, well you didn't be Roman, but I
• 2:18:39
  guess you're a champion. Said no, you're looked at as you're the world
• 2:18:43
  heavyweight Champion and it's going to mean something moving forward. That's a credit to
• 2:18:48
  Seth Rollins. Plus, he has one accolade that's unique to him this year
• 2:18:52
  in the fact that Seth Rollins is the only wrestler male or female to have
• 2:19:01
  worked a match on every single wwepl this year. He's the only one that
• 2:19:07
  did that, and yet still he's my runner up because my Male Wrestler of
• 2:19:13
  the Year is motherfucking guilt, Yes, sir, the iced Champ. Because
• 2:19:20
  the thing that he's done that Seth Rollins has not done is one been champion
• 2:19:28
  the entire year and two not had a single bad match all year. He
• 2:19:35
  has elevated that title to the point where, for a good chunk of this
• 2:19:39
  year, the Intercontinental Championship was seen as the second most prestigious title in the
• 2:19:46
  company after the ww Undisputed Universal Constellation. Whatever championship that Roman has. But
• 2:19:56
  Gunter did that almost single handily, and he did in the ring by having
• 2:20:03
  banger after banger after banger of a match entitled defenses, winning and winning clean
• 2:20:09
  and not winning the same way twice. He always wins in a different way.
• 2:20:18
  He has by and large been the best wrestler on WWE this year,
• 2:20:24
  hands down in my opinion, and I believe going in this year he's poised
• 2:20:31
  to become, if not the next world heavyweight champion, a heavyweight champion at
• 2:20:37
  some point this year. Nobody would be surprised to see that belt around his
• 2:20:43
  waist at some point this year. Damn that's true, Doyle. How about
• 2:20:50
  you we have one for Female of the Year. I'll give honorable mentions as
• 2:20:58
  long as they're not injured or pregnant, and just pencil in Becky and Bianca
• 2:21:01
  for me every single year, because I fucking love both of them. But
• 2:21:07
  EO and Oscar both had great years here. It's funny some of the things,
• 2:21:13
  some of the things that made me take Rio over EO were the same
• 2:21:16
  things, like literally the same things Rangel said, except I see them as
• 2:21:20
  good things for Ria, Like I think e O cheats and Raya doesn't you
• 2:21:24
  know, like you say, you know, you say her her reign hasn't
• 2:21:31
  been that great. It's because she's so fucking dominant, not for a single
• 2:21:33
  solitary seconds as it has. Her reign really been in doubt. You know,
• 2:21:41
  Romans has a couple of times, you know, she's just fucking mowing
• 2:21:46
  people now, including what did she win a five person six person match a
• 2:21:50
  couple of paper years ago. Everybody just throwing at her. She's just crushing
• 2:21:56
  Uh, you know, well else what I'm sorry? What else I want
• 2:22:01
  to say? Oh? Yeah, and I'm sure somebody will think of one.
• 2:22:05
  I can't think of one, but a woman leading a group of men
• 2:22:09
  basically, Like how unique is that? You know? You never see that?
• 2:22:15
  You know, I'm sure that there's somewhere there was one, I'm sure,
• 2:22:20
  but like you don't see any other woman even close to that kind of
• 2:22:26
  like leading dudes, you know, which is kind of cool role reversal.
• 2:22:30
  I love it. That's for Ale of the Year. Yeah, yes,
• 2:22:33
  that's only only guy on only talent on every pay per view. I wrote
• 2:22:37
  that down too. Uh. He did have a great year. Jay had
• 2:22:41
  a great year, but Rudginlally I'll say Cody had a great year, even
• 2:22:45
  though he's kind of not really for me, but I mean, fucking gunther
• 2:22:50
  Man, it wasn't pinned, he wasn't submitted bell to bell with the IC
• 2:22:54
  title. Five hundred and seventy one days and counting. It's absolutely a literated
• 2:23:01
  honky Tonks record for the longest most days with the icy title. He's actually
• 2:23:09
  almost has, He's i think he's third already most accumulated days with the title,
• 2:23:16
  which is just insane, you know, and just great, great matches
• 2:23:20
  with a variety of opponents, you know, and all of it without doing
• 2:23:24
  crazy shit or taking risks or doing flips. You know. He's using psychology,
• 2:23:31
  you know, the way he moves, the way he stacks moves on
• 2:23:35
  moves, you know, kind of like combos in the Street Fighter or like
• 2:23:39
  a video. And his promos have really helped, really improved rather quite a
• 2:23:45
  bit. I think Wayne said that earlier. And he's just getting better and
• 2:23:50
  better. He's already the best wrestler in the company in my opinion, and
• 2:23:54
  he's still just getting better and better. And yeah, I I mean,
• 2:24:01
  we'll talk about it as the year goes on and we start making predictions,
• 2:24:05
  But yeah, I would. I would pencil him in for a world title
• 2:24:09
  run sooner rather than later. I saw a crazy stat about him that he's
• 2:24:13
  been his entire time with the company. He's been a champion for like ninety
• 2:24:20
  four percent of it or something like that. He had that NXC Europe belt.
• 2:24:24
  I think he had that for like nine hundred days or something crazy,
• 2:24:30
  and I think he was was he NXC Champion or whatever belt? He hit
• 2:24:33
  some other belt for some crazy amount of time and now this Icy title reign,
• 2:24:37
  you know, going on six hundred days almost, So yeah, I
• 2:24:43
  think I could see a world where he never loses the Icy title. He
• 2:24:48
  just picks up a world title and languishes the Icy title. Ultimate Warrior style
• 2:24:54
  is Golta the Patrick Mahomes of w w E. He doesn't sound enough like
• 2:25:03
  Kermit the Frog, true, but yeah, I mean I think he's unquestionably,
• 2:25:11
  for my money, the Male Wrestler of the Year. M Awesome,
• 2:25:18
  guys, awesome. I love these pigs. Yeah, I was gonna say
• 2:25:22
  because ESPN Pro named Cody Rhodes Male Wrestler over the Year and I was like,
• 2:25:30
  well, fuck out of ESPN. Why, I was like, Okay,
• 2:25:35
  let's let's highlight. Yeah, he won the rubble, right, cool,
• 2:25:39
  going going to restamat, but he lost, and then your story should
• 2:25:45
  have been over. You lost. Yeah, you won the tag titles with
• 2:25:48
  Jay, that's cool. Yeah, and you did defeat brock Lesner. That
• 2:25:52
  is big. But other than that, like the chase for the gold just
• 2:25:58
  stopped, like mm hmm, you just and now he's just talking about,
• 2:26:05
  well, you know what we'll get. We'll get to that. He's doing
• 2:26:09
  a whole lot of winning except when it matters the most. Yes, that's
• 2:26:13
  what it is. Cody Roses, the Dallas Cowboys of the w W.
• 2:26:18
  He out here popping in the regular season, but when the playoffs hit,
• 2:26:22
  he coming up short. The guy wins one super Bowl and suddenly he's an
• 2:26:28
  expert. I'm not choking. Yeah. Match of the year, guys.
• 2:26:43
  I don't know about you guys, but a lot of my matches for the
• 2:26:46
  year. We're at russell Mania thirty nine this year. Maybe it was just
• 2:26:52
  maybe it was just the moment. The stories that lined up were the match
• 2:26:58
  itself. But you know, I've really enjoyed the triple threat with Gunther and
• 2:27:05
  Drew McIntyre and Seamus I really enjoyed that because I enjoyed the story for that
• 2:27:11
  too. You know, everybody has something to to gain. You know,
• 2:27:16
  Guther had the this title reign to extend, and this big win at WrestleMania,
• 2:27:20
  you know, Seamus winning the Inner title and you know, finishing his
• 2:27:26
  Grand Slam story and Drew McIntyre winning a title in front of a WrestleMania crowd.
• 2:27:33
  So everybody had something on the line for that match, you know,
• 2:27:39
  even Charlotte and Ria. Like Ria finally overcoming Charlotte and on the grandest stage
• 2:27:45
  of the mall. You know, that's that's when Ria, you know,
• 2:27:48
  leveled up. I think it was at WrestleMania even another Guther one was Guther
• 2:27:56
  and and Chad Gable on Raw. They it out a slam in match.
• 2:28:03
  We had the Ussos versus Roman and Solo. We had the Ussos versus Ko
• 2:28:11
  and Sammy, and I think it was like a like a street fight or
• 2:28:16
  a some sort of Chicago street a very kind of street fight. Was a
• 2:28:20
  gimmick street fight of some kind, you know, the War Games matches,
• 2:28:26
  even the not the whole paper, but the Men's Royal Rumble itself. I
• 2:28:33
  recently rewatched the Men's Rod Rumble and like that whole match was just awesome.
• 2:28:39
  You know, we saw a lot of maybe possible future matches down the road,
• 2:28:43
  and we saw a lot of cool things and returns and stuff. You
• 2:28:48
  know, I I rather enjoyed that. What else do I have here?
• 2:28:56
  Uh? Yeah? I mean? Oh, also Sammy versus Roman, I
• 2:29:03
  mean that was great. It was that one had me very close to leaving
• 2:29:09
  Sammy winning the title, but you know, as an elimination chamber, it
• 2:29:15
  was done so well. And you know, Roman and Cody Rhodes match at
• 2:29:22
  Wrestlmania was fantastic. Even though the story didn't end the way he wanted it
• 2:29:28
  too, it was still a great match, great story leading all the way
• 2:29:33
  up to it, and now we just got to relive it again. Ah.
• 2:29:39
  But I'm sure you guys have ones from all other you know, maybe
• 2:29:43
  wrestling companies even And I know Doyle, you're gonna dig deep on that one.
• 2:29:48
  So let's let's hear what you got. Oh I got him. I
• 2:29:52
  spit most of them out in the in the will Osprey tyrae. But I
• 2:30:00
  will give honorable mentions to Sammy and Ko versus the usas that match was fucking
• 2:30:05
  awesome. In another year, that might have been the match of the year.
• 2:30:11
  Yeah, Sammy and Roman and Elimination Chamber, Raya and Charlotte was fucking
• 2:30:15
  awesome. Uh, you know, it was great and kind of uh my
• 2:30:22
  sense of humor whatever, Bad Bunny versus Damian Priest was fucking awesome, so
• 2:30:28
  much fun. Yeah it was. Yeah, it was great. And uh
• 2:30:31
  from NXT uh dragging off and die Jack, which is a fucking banger.
• 2:30:37
  And if that had been like a WRESTLEMANI essay that probably would have been my
• 2:30:43
  pick. But yeah, I mean as much as in this space, I
• 2:30:48
  think on more than one occasion I have a poo poo triple threat matches,
• 2:30:54
  and I'm sure I'll do it again, but there wasn't a better match for
• 2:30:58
  my money than Gunther and Withdrew with Chambers for the Icy title. Just fucking
• 2:31:03
  knock down, drag out, seventy five blows to the chest. You know,
• 2:31:11
  But really what really stood out, you know, and I kind of
• 2:31:13
  said it earlier when talking about Gunther, Uh you know, the simplicity,
• 2:31:18
  you know, no need for flips and dared devilry and uh, you know,
• 2:31:24
  it's just fucking guys out there kicking the ship out of each other,
• 2:31:28
  you know. Uh. And you know they did rely of course on the
• 2:31:33
  on the one guy going out and the two fight and the third man come
• 2:31:37
  and breaks it up and somebody else goes out. Of course that that they
• 2:31:41
  had that, but even with that formula, it was just fucking banger.
• 2:31:48
  Uh. And I watched it maybe six seven times, including earlier today,
• 2:31:54
  and it's just and it doesn't overstay, it's welcome, it's not too long.
• 2:31:58
  Uh, and fucking gun through power bomb Seamus on to Drew, then
• 2:32:05
  power bombs Drew and pins him. Oh well, chef kiss, I was.
• 2:32:09
  I was rooting so hard for Seamus because I wanted him to get his
• 2:32:15
  grand Slam. And we saw a couple other people your grand slams. Finn
• 2:32:18
  got it when he won the tag title, and Becky got it when he
• 2:32:22
  won the NX two title by outsider here her there, Uh, Scott,
• 2:32:26
  I was rooting for Gunther, all right, I'm sorry for Shamus, but
• 2:32:28
  uh when Gunther won, and I remember I think it might have been that
• 2:32:33
  night looking and seeing like what what's the honky talk man? And and me
• 2:32:35
  like, well, if he's got like four or five months to get the
• 2:32:41
  Savage, you know, at the time, and I was like, God,
• 2:32:43
  I don't maybe they will, and it's like I think they're gunna.
• 2:32:46
  And then it's like, oh, I think they're gonna have him beat Honky
• 2:32:50
  talk man. And now it's he's well, I think he's one hundred days
• 2:32:54
  past honking talk at this point. Uh, And I don't think he's gonna
• 2:32:58
  lose it anytime soon, and uh maybe maybe WrestleMania. I don't know.
• 2:33:03
  Uh. I actually I still I said it, and I'll say it again.
• 2:33:07
  I have him beating Brock at WrestleMania. That's my prediction. But that's
• 2:33:11
  neither here nor there. Triple Threat match my favorite match of the year.
• 2:33:16
  Five Stars Nice that was. That was an excellent one that was definitely on
• 2:33:22
  my list of matches of the year, just to piggyback off some of the
• 2:33:28
  ones that y'all have already mentioned. Definitely some of my matches of the year.
• 2:33:33
  Charlotte versus Ria at WrestleMania. That was one of my matches of the
• 2:33:37
  year. Eo Sky versus Oscar on SmackDown one of my matches of the year.
• 2:33:45
  Cody versus Roman at WrestleMania. That was one of my matches of the
• 2:33:48
  year, a match that I don't think anybody has brought up yet, but
• 2:33:52
  it was one of my matches of the year. Edge versus Seamus Edges last
• 2:33:58
  match in WWE, Oh yeah, that one All SmackDown. That one was
• 2:34:03
  one of my matches of the year. That was a phenomenal match. But
• 2:34:09
  despite all of those, my match of the year does not come from the
• 2:34:16
  WWE. My match of the year was one that and I alluded to this
• 2:34:24
  earlier when we talked about non WWE Superstars of the Year. Things that resonate
• 2:34:30
  with me is that really hit with me is something that has that has to
• 2:34:35
  break through the WWE bubble, something that has to pop up on my radar
• 2:34:39
  and really get my attention. And in terms of matches of the year,
• 2:34:43
  I had a late rival that popped up on my radar, even though the
• 2:34:48
  match itself happened earlier this year, but I watched it and it took me
• 2:34:54
  back to It took me back to my days as a kid watching wrestling,
• 2:35:03
  watching old NWAWCW matches and where it wasn't so much about the storyline or the
• 2:35:13
  drama or whatever it was going into it, which is a lot of what
• 2:35:18
  makes WWE great, but a lot of what it relies upon is, you
• 2:35:22
  know, especially with the stuff that was Bloodline related. I remember it was
• 2:35:26
  talking about a lot of that last year where we would talk about matches and
• 2:35:30
  we would say, yeah, the match itself was okay, but it was
• 2:35:33
  really about the story that was being told, which that works for a lot
• 2:35:37
  of matches. But my match of the year was just about the pure action
• 2:35:43
  in the ring. And let me not bury the lead any further. I'll
• 2:35:50
  just go ahead and say my match of the year was Kenny Omega versus Will
• 2:35:54
  Osprey from Wressell Kingdom. Yeah, fucking so good. That fucking match was
• 2:36:05
  penomenal, and you could argue that their rematch at aw was a world clide
• 2:36:16
  or a world huh Forbidden Door for Bidden Door? Yeah, yes, thank
• 2:36:20
  you. Yeah, their rematch from Forbidden Door is arguably just as good.
• 2:36:26
  However, what I the only reason why I give the edge to their Russell
• 2:36:30
  Kingdom match is because that one was just them two, one on one.
• 2:36:33
  The match that for Bidden Door had a little bit of outside, a little
• 2:36:37
  bit outside activities and stuff from Oh I can't remember the guy's name, but
• 2:36:43
  the guy that used to be associated with Kenny Omega and then turned on him
• 2:36:46
  and kind of sided with will Ospray, Don Kallas. Yeah, his shenanigans
• 2:36:50
  where he was part of the match where he was interfering in the match and
• 2:36:54
  then the referee kicked him out of the ring, but then he comes back
• 2:36:58
  later on in the match and the referee just did nothing about it, like
• 2:37:03
  some just some, and again that's very nitpicky, but just some of those
• 2:37:05
  little minor, little continuity gripes in that match. Just I kind of didn't
• 2:37:09
  like. The match itself was still phenomenal and it had great moments in the
• 2:37:13
  rematch that called back to their original match, such as will Ospray just repeatedly
• 2:37:20
  ramming Kenny Omega's head into the announced table, which was him referencing back to
• 2:37:26
  their match at Wressell Kingdom when Kenney Omega smashed will Osprey's head threw a table
• 2:37:33
  again not into the table, through the table after he had already busted them
• 2:37:41
  open. And like I said, so that that continuity, that attention to
• 2:37:46
  detail in the match in between the two matches, I very much appreciate it,
• 2:37:48
  but again Russell Kingdom was just two guys one on one in the ring,
• 2:37:56
  wrestling their fucking asses off for over thirty minutes, And which is another
• 2:38:03
  thing I appreciated bout they were given full time to cook. They weren't limited
• 2:38:07
  by like, all right, we got only so many hours for the show.
• 2:38:09
  We gotta we gotta fit it in. We gotta cut time here in
• 2:38:13
  order to make time here. There's like go in the ring and cook.
• 2:38:18
  And that's exactly what the boys did for over thirty minutes. I saw spots
• 2:38:24
  in that match that I have never seen before, and I've been watching wrestling
• 2:38:30
  since the eighties. Freaking when Kenny Omega ddted will Ospray onto the top of
• 2:38:37
  the turn buckle, Oh my god, fuck you, what a DDT.
• 2:38:43
  Not not ramming their head into the top of the turn buckle. Not not
• 2:38:46
  a trip or a fall or a slip up. No, We're both standing
• 2:38:50
  up here on top of this turnbuckle and I'm DDT in your ass into the
• 2:38:54
  exposed part of this shit. Fucking insane, absolutely insane. I could go
• 2:39:01
  on and on about that match and how phenomenal that match was, and it's
• 2:39:05
  readily available online. Just google it and you will see it easily if you
• 2:39:11
  have not watched it. I highly recommend watching it. That match, Like
• 2:39:15
  I said, it took me back to being a wrestling fan as a kid
• 2:39:18
  and just watching two wrestlers just go at it, just absolutely go at.
• 2:39:24
  Just watch two guys who were the best at what they do in their craft,
• 2:39:28
  just going toe to toe in the ring, giving it everything they got,
• 2:39:35
  completely cooking, telling the story in the match itself, not necessarily through
• 2:39:41
  drama or through script or story, but just telling it through combat to where
• 2:39:48
  these two start off the match peak condition, great shape, and they in
• 2:39:52
  the match worn out, spent, battered, bloody on their last leg and
• 2:40:00
  one guy just happens to get the edge over the other. It was fucking
• 2:40:05
  beautiful. That's my match of the year. Kenny Omega versus will Osprey Russell
• 2:40:11
  Kingdom. I love it. I love I love it that we all have
• 2:40:15
  a variety of different ones. We're not all like, yeah, well firmly
• 2:40:20
  greed, this one match is the best match of the year, and that's
• 2:40:22
  it. I like it. D It's awesome. Uh Hey, guys,
• 2:40:30
  like overall, like this year, what what what are your like? Top
• 2:40:33
  three favorite pay per views from this year? I mean, for me,
• 2:40:37
  it was probably the Rumble, Russell Media and Backlash, that's fine. Mm
• 2:40:48
  Backlashes, I would say definitely definitely WrestleMania and Backlasher on my list, because
• 2:40:54
  yeah, Backlash was a phenomenal pay per view and it had a lot to
• 2:40:58
  do with that Puerto Rican round being absolutely on desert. Yeah on ten from
• 2:41:07
  start to finish, The way they freaking as I talked about earlier, the
• 2:41:09
  way they went over for Selina Vega before the match and after the match with
• 2:41:15
  the you know, the the yos pat suo Vega tu chant for her,
• 2:41:20
  The way they absolutely went nuts for bad Buddy when he came out and sang
• 2:41:24
  the ship out of his song. Yeah, they were on an EO Sky.
• 2:41:30
  They way to wear over his hell for EO Sky and her match with
• 2:41:33
  Bianca bell Are so much so they were booing Bianca and cheering the ship out
• 2:41:35
  of Eel. That crowd made that pay per view. I don't know what
• 2:41:39
  my number three would be, He'd be just like I got to think,
• 2:41:46
  well, which was it which aw pay per view was that Wembley? Was
• 2:41:50
  that all in or all out? I can't remember whichever one it was.
• 2:41:54
  That one that was a fucking great show. I think that was all in,
• 2:41:58
  it all in. I can't I can't remember anyway, that was a
• 2:42:05
  great shot. Yeah. Somebody said earlier in WrestleMania Night one, if you
• 2:42:09
  had to pick between the two, overall great WrestleMania, but if you had
• 2:42:13
  to choose between the two nights, I thought Night one actually was a little
• 2:42:16
  better. And an elimination chamber was fun too. That was a fun match,
• 2:42:22
  and of course the Sami Roman match was fucking great. Mm hmm,
• 2:42:30
  yeah, that was the match. Yeah, that elimination chamber match was phenomenal.
• 2:42:33
  Freaking that was mantes Ford's coming out party. I really thought he was.
• 2:42:37
  I thought that the way he came that ring, his showed out.
• 2:42:43
  Still waiting on his push. But definitely this we had a lot of good
• 2:42:48
  pay per views. I'm not I'm not disappointed not to share. Uh oh
• 2:42:56
  yeah, I have a question for the podcast in by Andrea. You can
• 2:43:01
  also write in a question for the podcast if you go on our website on
• 2:43:07
  podium dot com. Uh yeah, let me play her music. Would you
• 2:43:16
  like to answer a question right at this particular time would you like to do
• 2:43:20
  that? And I want to ask you a bunch of questions. I want
• 2:43:28
  to have them answered immediately. Can I ask you a question, Joe,
• 2:43:33
  I'm sorry about that, alrighty, And she asked, finally, the Rock
• 2:43:46
  has come back for Roman Reigns's title, but it seems like so has everybody
• 2:43:54
  else, whether Randy or in La Night Rose and now the Rock. What
• 2:44:03
  does it look like for Roman Reigns between now and WrestleMania. Good question,
• 2:44:09
  very good question, because I think we were discussing this on Discord because we
• 2:44:16
  are going to WrestleMania, and I don't know about you guys, but I
• 2:44:20
  much rather see Roman versus Rock at WrestleMania than Roman versus Cody. But that's
• 2:44:28
  just me live in the moment because the Rock is there, but I feel
• 2:44:35
  like we might get it at an elimination chamber. They might just try to
• 2:44:39
  knock it out early. I mean, there's so much speculation here, but
• 2:44:46
  like, what do you do with all these other guys that are lined up
• 2:44:50
  that I want to go after Roman? I mean, Randy is fresh back
• 2:44:52
  and he's on fire, and La Knight just just like I just I'm not
• 2:44:58
  done. He's like what about me? I was doing the story with him
• 2:45:03
  and and all of a sudden, now everybody returns and and not even I
• 2:45:07
  forgot to mention in the room see him Punk another guy who's after Roman.
• 2:45:13
  So, I mean, where's this going? Well, it didn't seem like
• 2:45:18
  that long ago we were talking about who's left for Roman to face, and
• 2:45:22
  now all of a sudden, there's a whole list of people. Mm hm.
• 2:45:26
  So I I think we got a couple of things that could happen here,
• 2:45:31
  right, I think we I think we're going to see uh him versus
• 2:45:37
  Rand Roman and Randy at the Rumble. Right Uh, Now, here's here's
• 2:45:45
  the question. Do they have Randy beat Roman at the Rumble and then you
• 2:45:48
  can do Roman Rock with no title involved? And that's how you get the
• 2:45:52
  title off of off of Roman and get a rock match without the title being
• 2:45:58
  involved. Yeah. One thing. Yeah, a lot of speculation that it
• 2:46:03
  will be Randy at Rumbled and Rock in an elimination chamber, and then Cody
• 2:46:09
  at WrestleMania. I'm not so sure Roman's not going to beat all of them
• 2:46:13
  and keep winning. And there's a big pay per view coming up after WrestleMania
• 2:46:20
  in Germany where I think maybe you might see Gunther beat Roman for all the
• 2:46:28
  gold in Germany. I know, Gunther's Austrian, but shame different. That's
• 2:46:35
  gonna be a fucking humongous moment, and that's going to be a Zelina Vega
• 2:46:43
  type type of moment. If that's what they choose to do. Where does
• 2:46:50
  that leave Cody. I have no idea. I don't know if he can
• 2:46:52
  sustain another loss to Roman at WrestleMania. Maybe you don't even do it.
• 2:46:56
  Maybe it's Cody Seth again. Uh, that would be intriguing. A lot
• 2:47:01
  of history there. You could do Seth. If Seth Seth beats Roman,
• 2:47:09
  you could do Seth Cody. I'm sorry, not Seth Randy Cody, you
• 2:47:15
  know, kind of I think a lot of history there. So there's sucking
• 2:47:20
  a lot and that's not even scratching the surface of all the other possibilities.
• 2:47:24
  Yeah, there's a lot of moving parts here. I mean, this is
• 2:47:30
  as exciting and WrestleMania season as I can remember, because it doesn't A couple
• 2:47:37
  of weeks ago, I thought I had the car and I'll figure it out.
• 2:47:41
  Now I don't know what the fun's going on. Only answer I would
• 2:47:43
  have for something like this to considering. It looks like there's more and more
• 2:47:46
  and more people stepping up to Roman. Is maybe the Rumble winner is is
• 2:47:54
  is Punk? And and maybe these other guys who were all gunning form end
• 2:48:01
  up going in an elimination chamber match for a yeah, you know, a
• 2:48:07
  number one contender. I mean that's possible. Just that's just like I could
• 2:48:11
  see I could see Punk winning the Rumble but choosing Seth Yeah, and that
• 2:48:18
  yeah, and then that leaving the winner of I guess elimination Chamber to face
• 2:48:22
  Roman. Yeah. I mean so many possibilities. It's just that I don't.
• 2:48:28
  I just hate it when we've seen this before, when like a guy
• 2:48:33
  like The Rock comes back for just this rumble to WrestleMania run and kind of
• 2:48:39
  like shadows guys who've been busting their ass and like we mentioned like breakout start
• 2:48:46
  of the year, like you know, l A. Knight, Like if
• 2:48:48
  he doesn't have what's gonna be his WrestleMania moment, you know, I was
• 2:48:54
  hoping it'd be for the Niceties title at least, but he's gotta they probably
• 2:49:01
  still be. Yeah, I'm hoping that's what it ends up being. Uh.
• 2:49:05
  And I don't, I don't, I don't know what what's in the
• 2:49:07
  story for work and if Roman just plows through all these fucking guys tell Mania,
• 2:49:11
  it's just like because they're advertising like in a lot of places like oh
• 2:49:18
  wait, we're getting Cody versus Roman at WrestleMania. It's like not really not
• 2:49:24
  yet, it's not cemented in like you can't just you know, it's like
• 2:49:30
  you walking around your work going I'm want to be supervising next year. I'm
• 2:49:33
  going to be supervising next year. And it's like, dude, you can't
• 2:49:37
  just walk around keep saying it. It's not just gonna magically happen. You
• 2:49:39
  got to earn that shit. So like then we've seen, you know,
• 2:49:45
  Cody Roads versus Roman Raines on the posters for Philadelphia. I'm just like,
• 2:49:50
  is that spoiler? Is that? Like? Tell me that like between now
• 2:49:52
  and WrestleMania, Roman is just going to destroy whoever else is in his way?
• 2:49:56
  Because I hate that. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah, honestly,
• 2:50:01
  I think that's more than likely what's gonna happen. I don't think's necessarily
• 2:50:05
  gonna destroy people, but I think we're gonna get a title match at Royal
• 2:50:11
  Rumbo obviously, which will be Roman versus Randy Orton. Randy Orton is gonna
• 2:50:16
  lose. Roman's gonna retain the title. More than likely we're gonna get Rock
• 2:50:22
  Roman. If the match does happen, it will happen at Elimination Chamber.
• 2:50:28
  And the main reason why that's probably gonna happen at I din't know. As
• 2:50:31
  much as I would like it to happen at WrestleMania, it's not gonna happen
• 2:50:35
  in WrestleMania. The big reason why it's not gonna happen in WrestleMania has nothing
• 2:50:41
  to do with wrestling. It has everything to do with The Rock and his
• 2:50:43
  schedule. The Rock co owns the UFL, which is the United Football League,
• 2:50:50
  which is the merged foot merger between the old us FX, USFL and
• 2:50:56
  XFL, which the Rock was co owner of XFL. They've now merged into
• 2:51:03
  the UFL United Football League. That league launches March thirtieth, which is right
• 2:51:13
  before WrestleMania. Therefore, and that lead up, the Rock as co owner
• 2:51:18
  is going to be busy as absolute hell, which means he's not going to
• 2:51:22
  be in a position to do anything for WrestleMania short of maybe make an appearance,
• 2:51:28
  but not any condition to have a match of any significance. Or be
• 2:51:33
  evolved in any feud where there would have to be some build up, especially
• 2:51:37
  a WrestleMania level build up, that ain't something that you can just put on
• 2:51:41
  the shoulders of one guy and be like, I carry it into WrestleMania,
• 2:51:45
  I'll meet you there. Like he's not gonna be able to do that.
• 2:51:48
  I believe right now is probably a small window that Rock has. If not
• 2:51:54
  now, then maybe from Rumble through Elimination Chamber it may have just enough of
• 2:52:00
  a window to work a program with Roman reigns. Obviously, it's not gonna
• 2:52:05
  be for the title because that takes all the suspense out of it because everybody,
• 2:52:07
  no good, damn well, Rock ain't winning no title. What he
• 2:52:11
  said on Raw this past week tells you what the fud is gonna be when
• 2:52:15
  he said I'm gonna go out to each should I sit at the bench or
• 2:52:18
  sit at the bar, or should I sit at the head of the table.
• 2:52:22
  And I believe I said something about this last year or some time in
• 2:52:26
  the past when talking about the prospect of this match and what the storyline could
• 2:52:31
  be. I said this before the storyline would be about who's the head of
• 2:52:35
  the table, or I think what I said, was who was the real
• 2:52:37
  head of the Aaaii family, I e. Who's the head of the table,
• 2:52:43
  And that's gonna be the storyline of their feud. Who really runs the
• 2:52:48
  family, Who's really at the head of the table. And it's probably gonna
• 2:52:52
  and it's gonna be a non title match. It's not gonna be about tribal
• 2:52:56
  chief or bloodline. It's gonna be about the table who really runs this shit.
• 2:53:03
  And because of that, that leaves it open to half a level of
• 2:53:05
  suspense in terms of who could actually win, because the Rock could win that
• 2:53:11
  match cement himself as you know, the true head of the Iawaii family.
• 2:53:16
  That could feed into, you know, the downfall of Roman reigns, where
• 2:53:20
  you know, Roman's is starting to lose it. Roman's starting to lose his
• 2:53:24
  grip. He's not the dominant person he is. We're seeing chinks in his
• 2:53:28
  armor. He's cracking, He's breaking down, and which leaves him primed and
• 2:53:31
  ready for Cody to seize on it and finally win at WrestleMania, which is
• 2:53:37
  probably what I think is going to happen. I definitely think that Roman versus
• 2:53:43
  Rock definitely does not need a title involved. No it's not gonna have a
• 2:53:48
  title involved, because again, like I said, that takes all the suspense
• 2:53:52
  out of it. Ahead of the table, either one of them could win.
• 2:53:56
  Another thing about Rock and Roman means that it has to go on last,
• 2:54:03
  last, right, and it has to be a big performance. And
• 2:54:07
  the Rock hasn't wrestled in over a fucking decade, and the last time he
• 2:54:11
  did, he tore everything in his fucking he tore his like abdomen apart,
• 2:54:16
  Like can Rock? Can Rock deliver us a fucking really good twenty twenty five
• 2:54:22
  minute match in twenty twenty four? And I not so sure? I think
• 2:54:28
  so absolutely easily he could easily do that. Somebody I had, somebody I've
• 2:54:33
  seen a number people pose the same question. The Rock, an old gimpy
• 2:54:41
  ass fucking hulk Hogan had a classic at WrestleMania eighteen, and that was rocking
• 2:54:48
  his prime, an old gimpy ass Hulk Hogan, And they pulled out a
• 2:54:52
  classic and it wasn't, you know, top tier wrestling, but it was
• 2:54:58
  absolutely top tier into attainment. Shared two guys who were masters at what they
• 2:55:05
  do in that ring, who knew how to hold their crowd in the palm
• 2:55:09
  of their hand and work a match that had everybody sitting on the edge of
• 2:55:13
  their seats on eleven the whole time. Can the Rock and Roman Reigns do
• 2:55:22
  that with seventy thousand fans in Australia apps a fucking lotly easily? Could Rock
• 2:55:31
  potentially injure himself. Yes, Rock as old and he's not gonna and he's
• 2:55:35
  gonna want to put forth the best performance that he can. And given how
• 2:55:41
  busy he is compared to you know, at least when Hogan had that match,
• 2:55:45
  Hogan wasn't like super busy and preoccupied with a million other things. He
• 2:55:48
  was just fucking old. Somewhat limited obviously by his incredibly busy schedule, especially
• 2:55:56
  with the UFL launching, which I'm sure is also going to take away from
• 2:56:03
  his time and ability to prep for this match, but hopefully he can do
• 2:56:07
  enough, and with the help of Roman doing probably most of the heavy lifting
• 2:56:13
  in the match, you know they can pull off a great match. And
• 2:56:20
  again they'll have their skills, their experience and the energy of seventy thousand screaming
• 2:56:26
  Aussies. So can they pull off a good twenty minute match? Yes,
• 2:56:33
  easily? Right, Well, just breaking I kind of think it might be
• 2:56:37
  cool if they could give us the tribal combat match we didn't get from uh
• 2:56:43
  Jay and Roman that fucking dog shit. No one can interfere, but there's
• 2:56:48
  interference. Oh yeah, I think there's a good chance we'll see some interference
• 2:56:52
  because uh because I think family, the whole family, partially the whole family,
• 2:56:58
  but also think that this match may help to kickstart Jimmie versus Jay at
• 2:57:07
  wrestle media because you see, you'll see Jimmy on Roman side. Jay will
• 2:57:11
  obviously probably be on Rock side. And I meant I meant, I meant
• 2:57:18
  like an Australian uh, like they're much more in touch with like public.
• 2:57:24
  I mean, like get really truly into their samoans. Yeah, like they
• 2:57:28
  do that dance like the rugby team that you know what I mean, Like
• 2:57:33
  like I'm talking about a theatrical kind of thing, like, uh, I
• 2:57:39
  don't know, maybe I'm spitballing. I wouldn't rule it out. I would
• 2:57:43
  not rule it out because that I mean this might be there might also be
• 2:57:48
  a way to kind of work around any deficiency the Rock may have from having
• 2:57:52
  not wrestled for ten years. Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure,
• 2:57:58
  the match yourself is going to be the match itself, but I could see
• 2:58:01
  a lot of ceremony happening around the matches well, especially like I said,
• 2:58:05
  being in Australia near you know, the island of Samoa and getting in touch
• 2:58:09
  with those, you know, getting taking back to their Simon roots. I
• 2:58:13
  don't know if it'll be like the whole tribal combat type thing, but I
• 2:58:18
  could see them playing up the head of the table and definitely leaning in on
• 2:58:22
  that I know Waii tradition. We might see, hell, we might see
• 2:58:26
  a bunch of the motherfuckers show up the whole ceremony, freaking Kishi and fat
• 2:58:31
  to one, whoever else is still alive, just all you know, showing
• 2:58:35
  up for that match seen recently backstage. I was like, m yeah,
• 2:58:41
  because it was in La I mean out Cali's when I las San Diego,
• 2:58:46
  so you know he lives in Calis. I think they said he was just
• 2:58:50
  there visiting, but you know, I couldn't I wouldn't rule out him playing
• 2:58:54
  some sort of part and whatever the build up would be to a potential Rock
• 2:58:58
  Roman. Yeah, dude, So, speaking of the Hulkster, breaking news,
• 2:59:03
  seventy year old Hulk Cogan is training for now, he's training, He's
• 2:59:09
  training for his fortieth anniversary, for an in ring return, possibly god motherfuck
• 2:59:20
  Hogan versus Ric Flair, Let's do it, Yeah, Rick firsts So I
• 2:59:26
  could come back and wrestle. I bet you could, man, but don't.
• 2:59:31
  Yeah, yeah, but did I give a single solitary fuck about Hulk
• 2:59:37
  Hogan wrestling again? Yeah? Early give a fuck about Hulghogan period seventy.
• 2:59:43
  I don't want to see a seventy year old IM trying to hold Rick Claire's
• 2:59:50
  last matchise, Yeah, he damn physical shape, and well, I'm saying
• 3:00:00
  I wish his last match was the one with Seawan Michaels and that was truly
• 3:00:03
  his last match, because that's a good way, great way to go out,
• 3:00:09
  and they ruined it, tainted it should be should have been I and
• 3:00:15
  my selective memory choose that, choose that to be. Yeah, Yeah.
• 3:00:20
  Anybody trying to see old ass Hulk Hogan trying to hulk up, shaking them
• 3:00:24
  goddamn wrinkles in the ring, pointing at somebody, sick your mouf of the
• 3:00:28
  old ass down, legs drop and never walk again. Shawn's last match should
• 3:00:33
  have been Shawn's last match. Yeah, you know it's gonna be it's gonna
• 3:00:43
  be dancing on stage, yes, oh yes, dancing on stage with all
• 3:00:48
  the other w w F wrestlers. Yeah. Yeah, this was from It's
• 3:00:56
  from like the Slammies was eighty nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, I have it's
• 3:01:03
  the same one where Vince does that does that dance number and he does the
• 3:01:09
  song and dance number called stand Back. That's pretty fucking awesome. Also,
• 3:01:15
  I would highly recommend checking that out upcoming episodes. We are gonna be protecting
• 3:01:22
  the War Rumble, you know episode, because you know what, it's a
• 3:01:28
  It's still a few weeks away, so god knows what could change. Till
• 3:01:31
  then, there was apparently elite photos of the plants for the Rumble. I
• 3:01:41
  saw the call sheets and I don't think they're real. I don't think they're
• 3:01:45
  really I don't think they're one of the women that are on there. She
• 3:01:50
  just made her a w debut today, just just like literally just now while
• 3:01:56
  we were having the podcast, and that is uh Donna, Diana, Dianna
• 3:02:03
  Perrazzo, Donna, Diana Dona. That one chick is always with Chelsea Green,
• 3:02:09
  who was on NXT. I think it's Donna Parrazzo. Anyway, I
• 3:02:16
  don't know why I thought she was about to say, uh, Mercedes money.
• 3:02:20
  She's considered that's been all the rumor this week. Yeah, she actually
• 3:02:24
  she's going to a w She's coming to a W Like, Okay, I
• 3:02:28
  believe you want to see it exactly. I'm still not I'm still not rolling
• 3:02:31
  out her return to w W. E. Yeah, I believe. Here's
• 3:02:35
  a question for you, Ari Ari Sasha Banks or is it monet or money?
• 3:02:41
  Because uh, because the theme song says money, I think it Mercedes
• 3:02:46
  money was a play on Banks. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is
• 3:02:50
  Mercedes money. I don't know why I say Mercedes money, just because I
• 3:02:54
  don't see that A lot of people say money. I think even that she
• 3:02:58
  commentate say that, and it's like, I don't think that's I think it's
• 3:03:01
  money, and I don't know. Isn't there an accent on the Yeah?
• 3:03:07
  I think that's that's why it's Mercedes money. I think a fancy way of
• 3:03:13
  saying money, like money, not money, it's money. Yeah. Also,
• 3:03:20
  I have been reaching out to some people in social media, other big
• 3:03:28
  wrestling fans, you know. I just stumbled across their page and maybe these
• 3:03:33
  people got a couple of thousand followers. But the fact of the matter is,
• 3:03:35
  is there wrestling fans and there it's they're wrestling fans. We put in
• 3:03:41
  the time on their pages to just represent how big of a fan that they
• 3:03:46
  are. So maybe we might be bringing a couple of them on the podcast
• 3:03:52
  one at a time, whether it's during a normal episode or just a one
• 3:03:56
  off where we interview them. So yeah, that'll be fun. I'm gonna
• 3:04:00
  try to do that this year. I gotta up. Yeah, let's let's
• 3:04:07
  interview some some peeps. But uh yeah, I guess if you're looking for
• 3:04:11
  any of our gear merchandise, it's on Pro Wrestling Teas. Is put on
• 3:04:16
  your favorite podcast podcast, Championship Wrestling, it should be in the search.
• 3:04:24
  MANU, we have a bunch of shirts. Uh, Doyle is probably still
• 3:04:31
  naked. I don't know if he has clothes on now. He should probably
• 3:04:33
  I put on my brand new pc W shirt that I ordered from Pro Wrestling
• 3:04:39
  Teas. But other than that, no pants out here looking like an old
• 3:04:46
  eighties cartoon character. No pants ship. Oh man? All right, well,
• 3:04:56
  I do you guys got anything else you want to plug? D nothing
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