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- 0:00When we really got heavy into real estate was in light industrial and commercial in
- 0:04the Texas market. Our local community wasn't really known for commercial or being a
- 0:09lot of great deals out there, or even the top side was not as
- 0:13high as what if. We flew to Houston, and Mike's brother lives out
- 0:16in Houston, so we chased after light industrial and commercial buildings. And the
- 0:21way that we did it is we went and knocked on doors of little guys
- 0:24at owned buildings. You were listening to Carrie Letz's Financial Survival Network, where
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- 0:56Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Leutz. Well, Hey, you
- 1:00know, they say those who can do those who can't teach, And as
- 1:04my sister used to say, those who can't teach teach teachers. So Mike
- 1:10and Bo real estate guys, guys who are actually doing it have done it,
- 1:15built built projects, they're into multifamily storage and guys, welcome to the
- 1:23show. It's great to have you on. So you've been best friends for
- 1:29thirty years and business partners. That's quite an accomplishment. Absolutely, yep.
- 1:34Yeah, Like what's the key to staying friends? Because you know, like
- 1:40money is on the line, stuff happens. It's not unusual for friendships to
- 1:45break up over money, is it? No? Exactly real common right.
- 1:48Honestly, we grew up in the same community. Mike's a couple years older
- 1:52than me. Actually knew of Mike because when he was like nineteen years old,
- 1:56eighteen nineteen years old, he was actually in the Rotary Club with my
- 1:59dad, So he was in the Old Cats, and he was a young
- 2:01young buck that was in there just trying to network and figure things out because
- 2:06he had the entrepreneurial spirit and just didn't know what to do with it.
- 2:08So I knew we love Mike went to Mike's got two other brothers that I
- 2:14grew up with, one of them another one and older one that's a business
- 2:15partner of ours as well. But that's how we were actually best friends for
- 2:21a long time before we ever did any business together. Yeah. Absolutely,
- 2:24Okay, so you kind of knew what to expect, right, Yeah,
- 2:29well exactly in any partner we get in, because we do. We have
- 2:32forty three different companies. We have multiple partners. So we make sure we
- 2:37partner with like minded people with the same morals that we have and the same
- 2:40brother goes from health, spiritual, whatever it is. Just it's got You
- 2:44got to be with good people in order for any relationship, a marriage or
- 2:46anything to stay together. So you make sure you know the person that you're
- 2:50going into business with and you have the like minded goals. And we did.
- 2:52We were aligned. We talked for years before we ever did one business
- 2:54deal. Yeah, we're just in a small community. So we both had
- 2:58businesses, but it does times it really didn't make sense to necessarily be partners
- 3:02in them. Mike was in retail, furnitures, video stores, laundry,
- 3:07mats, car washes. I was in red distribution, construction, pool construction,
- 3:13and then once him and his brother started to do a little bit of
- 3:15real estate stuff and then there was room for partnership and it made sense for
- 3:19us to become partners. We jumped on that training probably back in twenty fifteen,
- 3:24and that's when everything kind of scaled and took off for us. Wow,
- 3:28that's pretty cool. So so you've been in this a while, what
- 3:34do you think the key to your success is? My thing is is not
- 3:37chasing all the fads and realizing, you know, I grew up in the
- 3:40eighties and the eighties he had the late night commercials that get rich quick scheme,
- 3:45and honestly, I ended up buying a couple of those courses, and
- 3:47then I knew I didn't need Tony Robbins because no one needed to tell me
- 3:51to give me more energy or more motivation. So that wasn't it. So
- 3:54I already had all the motivation. I just needed direction, you know,
- 3:57so not chasing. And I had a couple good old guys that were either
- 4:00landlords from my video stores that I got to know and just listen to reason,
- 4:05you know, like this is going to be a long haul, this
- 4:08is a marathon, so it's not gonna happen quick. And I didn't lose
- 4:12one penny in bitcoin because I didn't put one dollar in it. You know,
- 4:15we tested the market market in verbos. Realize we're in a transient area,
- 4:19we'd be seasonal, so there's no money in that. So just staying
- 4:24into the long term. And O eight, we didn't come out and start
- 4:26flipping houses in Vegas that's ninety miles away, because everyone talked to now they
- 4:30flipped all those homes. If they would have kept half of them, they
- 4:32wouldn't be talking to us ask them for advice, and now they are.
- 4:34So we just we put the slow and controlled and buy undervalued, keep them
- 4:39long term, and we don't buy anything that doesn't cash flow. So you
- 4:42don't believe in flipping it. It hasn't worked out for us because every building
- 4:46we have sold, buy a couple hundred pieces of property, even end up
- 4:49selling one to someone you're leasing to or selling one for whatever reason. But
- 4:53we've never sold a building that we don't wish we own today. So when
- 4:57that happens to you, so option face a couple of times, you go,
- 4:59why don't we just keep them all? And so that's what we did,
- 5:03all right, that's so cool. Like you know, I hate it,
- 5:08I like I like you guys at itud hate. So you've done a
- 5:11lot of deals. What's the biggest mistake you guys have made in your thirty
- 5:16years? Not building the back office staff fast enough For me, I'd say,
- 5:20just no, recognizing that value, I didn't realize. No, we
- 5:24didn't. We work, we're not college educated, left high school and our
- 5:26last jobs. Well, plus we're eighteen years old, so you learned it
- 5:29all all on as you've moved on. And I opened up my first video
- 5:31store when as nineteen, made more money in the second day than we thought
- 5:34we're going to make in three years. But I didn't have anybody in an
- 5:38office to open the mail, pay the bills nine forty one, teach me
- 5:41about taxes. So I spent a few years trying to play catch up after
- 5:44that. So my thing is, if you're going to be if you're fortunate
- 5:46enough to get successful, make sure you got a staff behind you to take
- 5:49care of the things that need to be taken because you need to be chasing
- 5:51the money you need. Value of time. Yeah right, No, No,
- 5:55I totally get you. Guys. Do you either of you regret not
- 6:00having gone to college? Not really. You know, I spent three years
- 6:02in school, and only because I was going for sports to play basketball in
- 6:06college, so that's why I was actually going. I always had the assumption
- 6:10that I was going to possibly be an educator. And then also just so
- 6:13I could do some coaching and then still be able to do business on the
- 6:15side. But I realized that my true passion was being an entrepreneur and chasing
- 6:20the money, and so the life lessons that we learned that I think paid
- 6:26tenfield what a college education would have done for us and the traditional school.
- 6:30You know, I struggled getting seized to get out of high school, so
- 6:32I knew there wasn't a line for me at the local college. So I
- 6:36always knew I was going to be an entrepreneur. I was been hustling since
- 6:40I was six, selling stuff door to door, bake sales at school.
- 6:43Just always always had some kind of side thing going on, so I knew
- 6:46which direction I was going. Yeah. Interesting, interesting, So all right,
- 6:51yeah, so college is not for everybody, and I don't see it
- 6:57as being a must either, right, I said, my boys to school,
- 7:02so as I don't have anything against it. You know, I got
- 7:03three adult children that I've put into college, and I got my eighteen year
- 7:09olds of freshmen. We'll see if he makes it all the way through.
- 7:11But I don't have If you don't have some if you don't have a direction
- 7:14where you know you want to go, when you get out of school,
- 7:16it's a great time to figure it out. I suppose I never did it,
- 7:19but I already had a direction. I just needed to point my jets
- 7:21in the right direction in all ass interesting. Interesting. So so somebody's starting
- 7:29out now, what do you tell them? What would you what advice would
- 7:34you give if they were in a position that you were in when you started
- 7:40out thirty years ago. Well, my thing is is I feel jealous because
- 7:45all the information that is available today seems like a cheat sheet. If I
- 7:48would have had YouTube, I wouldn't have had half the problems I had.
- 7:53So I didn't put enough value into connecting with the right people soon enough.
- 7:58So again, surround your out by the people you wanted to become. And
- 8:01if you don't do that, you're going to become the people you're already hanging
- 8:03out with. So if you want to level up and have a better life,
- 8:07you literally need to even if you have to pay money to get around
- 8:09somebody. You know, I didn't believe in that stuff soon enough to realize.
- 8:13Guess what you could buy yourself into this club or this situation where you
- 8:16can be around the people you want to be with, and there's a value
- 8:18into that. Yeah, well, I wish I would have realized that I
- 8:22need to surround myself with people that I'm trying to become. If I'm an
- 8:24actor and I have a chance to pay ten grand to go hang out with
- 8:28Brad Pitt for weekend an acting school, why would you do it? You
- 8:31know? And I just put it up value into that type of thing,
- 8:33and I wish I would have sooner. I love it so paching people ourselves.
- 8:37All right, So tell me about your deals? How do you find
- 8:41them? How do you make them come to fruition? How does it work?
- 8:46A lot of it? Well, I would say we owned real estate,
- 8:50but when we really got heading into real estate was in light industrial and
- 8:54commercial in the Texas market. Our local community wasn't really known for commercial or
- 8:58being a lot of great deals out there, or even the top side was
- 9:03not as high as what if we flew to Houston and Mike's brother lives out
- 9:07in Houston. So we chased after light industrial and commercial buildings. And the
- 9:11way that we did it is we went and knocked on doors of little guys
- 9:15that owned buildings, or we found dilapidated buildings that are down around the oil
- 9:20refineries. Mike's brother lives down in Texas City area, but bought a bunch
- 9:24of light industrial buildings that were close to the refineries, and the subcontractors needed
- 9:30a place a building within a proximity of the refinery, and so we bought
- 9:35those old buildings, fixed them up, and then leased those out. So
- 9:39our initial way of scaling was just by not necessarily looking our loop net or
- 9:43prexy or or getting the local realtor, it would actually be you know,
- 9:46we developed relationship with a lot of the local realtors, the top rialators in
- 9:50those in those communities, but we actually a lot of it was just boots
- 9:54on the ground, staying up till twelve o'clock, two o'clock in the morning,
- 9:56driving through the old shitty communities and looking for buildings, writing them down
- 10:00on a notepad, going back to the office the next morning, look it
- 10:03up, seeing the contact information, what the rents were in that area.
- 10:07We just coached ourselves up on what we knew and started buying those. And
- 10:11then the lessons that we learned over the years of buying a bunch of light
- 10:15industrial buildings, we scaled that into multi family. Bought a shit little multi
- 10:18family jumped into In twenty seventeen, we jumped into self storage, and now
- 10:26we own over forty three different cell storage facilities, but the majority of them
- 10:30we're all with that same approach of knocking on the door, finding out who
- 10:33the owner of the property is and then develop a relationship and if you don't
- 10:37didn't buy it that day, within the next five to ten years, we're
- 10:41going to own it. Yeah, And that's what it is. Just there's
- 10:45so many old guys out there, and if it's not the old guy,
- 10:48it's the kids, because we knew this. The old guy passed and now
- 10:50we're buying it from the kids who don't put it as much emotional value into
- 10:54it. But a lot of those old guys, they'll just hang on to
- 10:56old shit, whether it's an old car in the garage, just because it's
- 10:58easier to keep it then it is. The everyon wants to deal with the
- 11:01hassles of getting rid of something. So when we knock on doors so many
- 11:03times, they just they're done with their mechanic shop or their transmissionhop or their
- 11:09valve shop, and they'll let them sit because they don't even know, you
- 11:11know, they made enough money. It's not about the money anymore. Now
- 11:13it's just about get rid of the property. And so a lot of them
- 11:16are abandoned properties, well, the ones that the weeds grow up on.
- 11:20A lot of we give guys an opportunity to retire. We knock they ady
- 11:22ready to retire yet, but we are real pay, build a relationship,
- 11:28get back to them every six months. Three years later they sell it to
- 11:30us. I think a lot of it is with our you know, starting
- 11:33out just owning small businesses, and we're all about providing huge, great value,
- 11:39best buying experience that you can, customer services, everything, and developing
- 11:43relationships with our clientele and our customers and all of our businesses. We took
- 11:46that same approach to real estate. To real estate, so we develop relationships
- 11:50with these old cats that own these buildings, and eventually, at some point
- 11:52in time, you're gonna end up being able to purchase them. A bunch
- 11:54of years, go buy a guy that's eighty. A guy that's eighty turns
- 11:58ninety. Now it's time to sell. So you never know where someone's at,
- 12:00but you just be patient and realize that they love their property and they're
- 12:03not ready to sell it. We've never taken no for an answer, ever,
- 12:07you just come back again. Distance, persistence pays off. Right,
- 12:09Consistence and discipline two things you have to have. You don't have any one
- 12:13of those. Hang it up, go work for TSA. We need to
- 12:18see skuys. Everybody wants to do that, right. And to tell you,
- 12:22Daddy, when I grow up, I want to be a TSA agent,
- 12:26right you neil it? You have to play a lot fortnite? Yeah,
- 12:35well that'll work too, right yep? All right? So I so
- 12:43as far as your kids go, uh, you going to encourage them to
- 12:48get into the business. I encourage from my three boys. I courage them
- 12:52to take any direction that's going to make them happy, because that's the that's
- 12:54the best path in life, right, Get something that's going to make you
- 12:56happy. I don't really wish my path on anyone, because both were grinders.
- 13:01Missed a lot of weddings, funerals and all the other things you're supposed
- 13:03attend to build our business. And now we're able to do whatever we want
- 13:05whenever we want. But that's a tough grind, and you gotta be ready
- 13:09for I think if you're going to grind that way, you're hardwired from the
- 13:15beginning. You know, I really do think that there's some of that any
- 13:18I don't recognize any of that in my kids. But one's entrepreneur, order,
- 13:22the other one's uh, firefighter, and the other one just went off
- 13:24to college. And we'll see where that goes. But I'm welcome to help
- 13:28anybody, but I don't try to push it on anybody, because it's a
- 13:31we take our business. We have a blast doing it, but we're trying
- 13:33to do go as fast as we can, as hard as we can.
- 13:37Like Mike said, we will wish it on everybody. I mean, we
- 13:39recognize the value of it. I think we just enjoy it and so much
- 13:43on it that but we've realized that you get older in years and you realize
- 13:48it's not for everybody. But if you are into it, we know how
- 13:52to help you to scale it and acquire the things that we have. We've
- 13:54we've written the script, we we've we've made all the mistakes, so we
- 13:58know how to direct people. That crystal ball that we say is so cloudy.
- 14:01When you're a young entrepreneur, business guy, to real estate investor,
- 14:03whatever you want to call it, that crystal ball gets clearer and clear the
- 14:07older and the more experience that you have. Right. All right, so
- 14:11you got a crystal ball, huh? Fell in the crystal ball. Huh.
- 14:16It's still a little funny. Yeah. We started with one of those
- 14:18eight balls that you shake and then you look at it tells you what to
- 14:22day. How does that work? The eight ball method of I haven't I
- 14:28haven't tried it lately. But sometimes you got to make a decision, and
- 14:35you know, sometimes you just do the eight ball routine. Right. Well,
- 14:41our routine around here at are saying is even on the back of some
- 14:43of the shirts we have is take action and figure the f out because so
- 14:46many times when we coach people, they're a fear. There's fear that's stopping
- 14:50them from doing what they really want to do, and they think by reading
- 14:54these books, you're going to figure it out. Well, I have nothing
- 14:56against reading the every business book that's out there, but we me people that
- 15:00read so many books, you just go, when are you going to put
- 15:01down the tire pree gat and you know you're never going to have all the
- 15:05answers. So a lot of people are waiting for the exact map, blueprint
- 15:09how to get to that success. Well, it's just a long path and
- 15:11it's different for everybody. So we can show you the direction, but you've
- 15:15got to figure out your own path, right Yeah. I think you're correct.
- 15:18Everybody's got to find their own way through life. And whatever happened to
- 15:22you happened to you, and you know you move on, right Amen.
- 15:28Yeah, that's saying. So how do we find you guys? How do
- 15:33we connect with you guys on the web? I w I say, best
- 15:35ways fired through Instagram. I said, if you look up Mike and Bo
- 15:39on Instagram and then dm us that's probably the best way. Also to reach
- 15:43out. Another way it's real simple, is just to shoot us a text.
- 15:46You can text us at nine two eight, six oh five four three
- 15:50three five. We'll get right back to you and kind of let you know
- 15:54what we have that's out there. As far as coaching on a weekly basis,
- 15:58we have a consulting packages and stuff where we can sell people in development
- 16:00work. Because of real estate, we've done quite a bit of development stuff
- 16:04to just everyday small business guys that are just looking to have a mentor there
- 16:08to help them coach them through and take a look at their blueprint and make
- 16:12corrections that we see from our experiences. We've got a huge network of people
- 16:18behind us, like Mike sev from from CEOs to CFOs to controllers and another
- 16:23thing we haven't spoken on yet but business partners. We got a lot of
- 16:26different We have a lot of different businesses too. Yeah, we own a
- 16:29Houston Motorsports so we own five different Houston Motorsports dealerships, Glara's can am Yamaha
- 16:36golf Cart. Just a bunch of different businesses like that that are out there
- 16:41that we have really valuable partners that jump on. And if it's in a
- 16:45sector that we're not super versed in, we've got a partner in some business
- 16:49that we're involved in that that is going to bring value. All right,
- 16:52Hey, appreciate you guys coming on. And you's got a question for myself
- 16:56from Mike Combo, shoot me an email, k el Carrie look dot com
- 17:00and the link to their Instagram and other info will be at the show.
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