Latest / Beyond The Horizon / The Death Of Boeing Whistleblower John Barnett
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. We
- 0:04Speaker 1: got a wild story to talk about in this one
- 0:06Speaker 1: and it has to do with a whistleblower from the
- 0:09Speaker 1: company Boeing, the aeronautics company, who ended up testifying at
- 0:14Speaker 1: a court hearing about the company and what's going on
- 0:18Speaker 1: with all of their issues. And then a couple of
- 0:20Speaker 1: days later, he's found dead from a self-inflicted quote-unquote gunshot wound. Now,
- 0:27Speaker 1: I'm not somebody that dives into every single one of
- 0:30Speaker 1: these types of conspiracies and gives it credence or merit.
- 0:34Speaker 1: But this right here, boy, this has all the hallmarks
- 0:38Speaker 1: of being something a lot more than a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
- 0:42Speaker 1: So let's just dive right into the story from the
- 0:45Speaker 1: Daily Mail and let's see what they have for us. Headline,
- 0:48Speaker 1: Boeing whistleblower John Barnett is found dead in his truck
- 0:52Speaker 1: outside a South Carolina hotel just days after testifying in
- 0:55Speaker 1: a lawsuit against the aviation giant. And we all know
- 1:00Speaker 1: that Boeing is up against it right now. They've had
- 1:02Speaker 1: a lot of issues with their jets lately. And there
- 1:05Speaker 1: have been a lot of lawsuits, a lot of blowback.
- 1:08Speaker 1: And we're talking about a giant in the industry, right?
- 1:12Speaker 1: So the implications are wide ranging. And we're talking about
- 1:16Speaker 1: financial implications. Those implications bleed over to people who are
- 1:21Speaker 1: invested into the company, and we know that a lot
- 1:23Speaker 1: of people with a lot of money and a lot
- 1:25Speaker 1: at stake are invested in Boeing. So is it really
- 1:30Speaker 1: that far out of the realm of possibility that somebody
- 1:33Speaker 1: could have killed this man? And it's really starting to
- 1:37Speaker 1: smell like a Gary Webb type deal. This article was
- 1:40Speaker 1: authored by Alex Hammer. A former Boeing staffer who once
- 1:44Speaker 1: raised concerns about the company's production standards has been found
- 1:48Speaker 1: dead in the U.S. John Barnett, 62, was found dead
- 1:52Speaker 1: in his truck in a hotel parking lot in South Carolina,
- 1:55Speaker 1: his lawyer said Monday, seven years after he retired following
- 1:59Speaker 1: a 32-year career. So this man put in all of
- 2:03Speaker 1: his time, spent his whole life working, retires, then becomes
- 2:07Speaker 1: a whistleblower to try and do good, and ends up dead.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Who's buying this? Is anybody buying the story that he
- 2:14Speaker 1: killed himself? Because what I've seen from the official narrative,
- 2:18Speaker 1: this all looks like a bunch of BS to me.
- 2:22Speaker 1: The ex-quality manager at Boeing's North Charleston plant died from
- 2:26Speaker 1: a self-inflicted gunshot wound, cops in Charleston said, adding that
- 2:29Speaker 1: they were still investigating. Look, when you have situations like this,
- 2:34Speaker 1: where you have somebody who, quote-unquote, dies from a self-inflicted
- 2:38Speaker 1: gunshot wound, the investigation... is not going to be robust.
- 2:43Speaker 1: They're not going to dive deep into this because they're
- 2:45Speaker 1: already going off of the premise that it was a suicide.
- 2:49Speaker 1: So my prediction is this whole thing is going to
- 2:50Speaker 1: get swept under the rug and the official narrative and
- 2:53Speaker 1: the official story will end up being, oh, this man
- 2:56Speaker 1: killed himself, even though there's no evidence of that. There
- 2:59Speaker 1: has been nothing as far as people coming forward saying
- 3:03Speaker 1: that this man was suicidal, no note left, nothing like that.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Barnett's death came during a break in depositions in a
- 3:11Speaker 1: whistleblower retaliation suit where he alleged under pressure, workers were
- 3:15Speaker 1: deliberately fitting substandard parts to aircraft on the assembly line.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And look, I'm terrified to fly in the first place.
- 3:23Speaker 1: You start hearing all this stuff about Boeing using substandard parts,
- 3:27Speaker 1: all this other garbage, and I gotta tell you, not
- 3:31Speaker 1: very confidence-inducing. Like, if you want to get the knockoff
- 3:34Speaker 1: brand soda, alright, fine, I'll deal with it. But we're
- 3:37Speaker 1: talking about a jetliner here. You better make sure you're
- 3:41Speaker 1: using the right damn pieces and the right damn parts.
- 3:44Speaker 1: And don't think for a minute that when all this
- 3:46Speaker 1: money's on the line that people won't be pushed into
- 3:48Speaker 1: doing crazy shit. Because they will be. He said that
- 3:53Speaker 1: in some cases, second-rate parts were literally removed from scrap
- 3:57Speaker 1: bins before being fitted to planes that were being built
- 4:00Speaker 1: to prevent delays. a 2017 review by the FAA upheld
- 4:05Speaker 1: some of his concerns requiring Boeing to take action. So
- 4:09Speaker 1: these dirtbags in Boeing, who are making money hand over fist,
- 4:13Speaker 1: by the way, they decided that it's a good idea
- 4:15Speaker 1: to use secondhand parts, parts from junkyards and shit. Whoever's
- 4:20Speaker 1: responsible for that decision making, they should be fired and
- 4:23Speaker 1: they should be charged criminally. He had just given a
- 4:27Speaker 1: deposition to Boeing's lawyers, For the case this past week,
- 4:30Speaker 1: his attorney Brian Knowles said. In an email, he called
- 4:34Speaker 1: his client's death tragic. Today is a tragic day, Knowles wrote,
- 4:38Speaker 1: revealing that Barnett was supposed to do day three of
- 4:41Speaker 1: his deposition here in Charleston on his Air 21 case
- 4:45Speaker 1: on Saturday, referring to a federal law that provides whistleblowers
- 4:49Speaker 1: protection in the aviation industry. Here's a question for you.
- 4:53Speaker 1: How many of our lawmakers have stock in Boeing? My
- 4:56Speaker 1: guess is a whole lot of them. John had been
- 5:00Speaker 1: back and forth for quite some time getting prepared, he continued,
- 5:03Speaker 1: providing a timeline of what transpired in the days before
- 5:06Speaker 1: Barnett's death. The defense examined him for their allowed seven
- 5:10Speaker 1: hours under the rules on Thursday. I cross-examined him all
- 5:14Speaker 1: day yesterday, Friday, and did not finish. We agreed to
- 5:17Speaker 1: continue this morning at 10 a.m. Co-counsel Rob Turkowitz kept
- 5:22Speaker 1: calling this morning, and his phone would just go to voicemail.
- 5:26Speaker 1: We then asked the hotel to check on him. The
- 5:28Speaker 1: South Carolina jurist went on. They found him in his
- 5:31Speaker 1: truck dead from an alleged self-inflicted gunshot wound. We drove
- 5:36Speaker 1: to the hotel and spoke with the police and the coroner. Yeah,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions here. Look, I'm not
- 5:41Speaker 1: saying that it wasn't suicide, right? It could have been.
- 5:45Speaker 1: I don't know this man. I don't know what kind
- 5:46Speaker 1: of state of mind he was in, but I certainly
- 5:48Speaker 1: have questions, especially when we're talking about a company like
- 5:52Speaker 1: Boeing with the kind of reach that they have, the
- 5:54Speaker 1: kind of power that they have. And when people are
- 5:57Speaker 1: up against it, you know that people will do crazy shit.
- 6:00Speaker 1: So was there somebody that decided to take matters into
- 6:03Speaker 1: their own hands here? Obviously, the police aren't saying that,
- 6:06Speaker 1: but I think it has to be investigated. The Charleston
- 6:10Speaker 1: County coroner, meanwhile, confirmed Monday the longtime Boeing staffer died
- 6:15Speaker 1: Friday while in town for interviews linked to the case.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Boeing also responded to the former worker's death in their
- 6:21Speaker 1: own statement as news spread on Monday. saying it was
- 6:24Speaker 1: saddened by Mr. Barnett's passing. Yeah, I don't know how
- 6:28Speaker 1: that's going to hit with his family, considering it's this
- 6:31Speaker 1: whole entire ordeal that led to his death one way
- 6:34Speaker 1: or the other, either by his own hand or by
- 6:37Speaker 1: some scumbag who decided to kill him. The fact remains
- 6:40Speaker 1: that this situation itself led to Mr. Barnett's death. The
- 6:45Speaker 1: statement did not address any aspects of the case, but
- 6:48Speaker 1: Brass ultimately added, our thoughts are with his family and
- 6:51Speaker 1: his friends. Oh, I'm sure that's comforting. I'm sure that's
- 6:54Speaker 1: comforting to everybody out there. Meanwhile, the rest of us
- 6:57Speaker 1: are sitting around here saying ourselves, do these clowns really
- 7:01Speaker 1: use aftermarket parts? Are they out here getting shit from
- 7:04Speaker 1: junkyards and putting it on the planes? I mean, would
- 7:07Speaker 1: it shock you? We all know about these corporations and
- 7:09Speaker 1: how it's all about profits over people. The plant where
- 7:13Speaker 1: Barnett worked for decades is where Boeing builds the 787 Dreamliner,
- 7:18Speaker 1: one of several crafts from the airliner that's made headlines
- 7:21Speaker 1: as of late. On Monday, roughly 50 people were treated
- 7:24Speaker 1: by first responders after a Boeing 787 Dreamliner flying from
- 7:28Speaker 1: Australia to New Zealand experienced a technical event that caused
- 7:32Speaker 1: a strong movement, jolting passengers in their seats. It's like
- 7:36Speaker 1: my worst fear. Being on a plane and all this
- 7:39Speaker 1: technical crap starts happening and you have no idea if
- 7:42Speaker 1: that bad boy is going to land or if it's
- 7:44Speaker 1: going to crash and you want to really add a
- 7:46Speaker 1: little bit of spice to it for me. Have that
- 7:49Speaker 1: shit happen over an ocean, because I am deathly afraid
- 7:51Speaker 1: of the open ocean as it is, never mind crashing
- 7:53Speaker 1: in a plane and my ass ends up surviving floating
- 7:57Speaker 1: around in the ocean to be eaten by sharks, because
- 7:59Speaker 1: that's definitely my fate. So, you can miss me with
- 8:02Speaker 1: all of your aftermarket parts and all your bullshit around.
- 8:07Speaker 1: As of writing, Five remained hospitalized after the plane dipped
- 8:10Speaker 1: violently due to the unspecified issue. LATAM Airline and first
- 8:14Speaker 1: responders both told AFP, Meanwhile, in a separate incident in
- 8:19Speaker 1: early January, an unused emergency exit door blew off a
- 8:23Speaker 1: brand new Boeing 737 MAX shortly after takeoff from Portland International,
- 8:28Speaker 1: sparking a still ongoing DOJ investigation. Now, how in the
- 8:32Speaker 1: fuck does that happen? You mean to tell me that
- 8:34Speaker 1: a door is going to blow off midair? Sure, let
- 8:37Speaker 1: me go and book another flight. I mean, I recently
- 8:39Speaker 1: flew up to Montana and it was a shit show.
- 8:43Speaker 1: My flight ended up getting delayed. I was in the
- 8:46Speaker 1: airport in Kalispell for like 14 hours. Then I went
- 8:48Speaker 1: to Denver. There was another delay. All I'm trying to
- 8:51Speaker 1: do is get back home. A measly hour and 55
- 8:53Speaker 1: minute flight. But shit is so screwed up when it
- 8:57Speaker 1: comes to the airliners these days that even that's a
- 8:59Speaker 1: pain in the balls. And then you want to add
- 9:02Speaker 1: to that misery and say that a door might blow
- 9:04Speaker 1: off mid-flight? On Friday, shortly before the incident, over the
- 9:08Speaker 1: Indian Ocean. Oh, of course, over the ocean, right? Boeing
- 9:11Speaker 1: said it believed the technical failure. involving the door stem
- 9:14Speaker 1: from something that occurred during production where required documents detail
- 9:19Speaker 1: the removal of a key part that failed or never created. Well,
- 9:23Speaker 1: isn't that nice? And what kind of people are they
- 9:25Speaker 1: hiring over at Boeing? And to digress a little bit,
- 9:30Speaker 1: this is the same reason I don't go on carnival rides. Yeah,
- 9:33Speaker 1: that's right. I don't know who built those carnival rides,
- 9:35Speaker 1: who's maintaining them. Old Ted with meth mouth over here,
- 9:39Speaker 1: you know, fixing the carnival ride. you can miss me
- 9:42Speaker 1: with that shit too. I'm not going on any carnival rides.
- 9:45Speaker 1: I guess we have the same sort of people over
- 9:47Speaker 1: here working for Boeing. Also on Friday, the company said
- 9:51Speaker 1: it's committed to continuing to cooperate fully and transparently with
- 9:55Speaker 1: the National Transportation Safety Board's investigation, which more than three
- 9:59Speaker 1: months later, were ongoing. Barnett's job for 32 years was
- 10:03Speaker 1: overseeing production standards for the firm's planes. Standards, he said,
- 10:08Speaker 1: were not met during his four years at the then-new
- 10:11Speaker 1: plant in Charleston from 2010 to 2004. The new leadership
- 10:13Speaker 1: didn't understand processes. Barnett told Corporate Crime Reporter in an
- 10:19Speaker 1: interview in 2019 of how Brass allegedly cut corners to
- 10:24Speaker 1: get their then state-of-the-art 787s out on time. They brought
- 10:30Speaker 1: them in from other areas of the company, he continues,
- 10:33Speaker 1: two years after retiring in 2017. The new leadership team,
- 10:37Speaker 1: from my director down, they all came from St. Louis, Missouri.
- 10:40Speaker 1: They said they were all buddies there. That entire team
- 10:44Speaker 1: came down, he went on. They were from... the military side.
- 10:48Speaker 1: My impression was their mindset was, we are going to
- 10:50Speaker 1: do it the way we want to do it. Their
- 10:52Speaker 1: motto at the time was, we are in Charleston and
- 10:55Speaker 1: we can do anything we want. Well, it's always great
- 10:59Speaker 1: hubris before the fall, right? He also said that he
- 11:02Speaker 1: uncovered serious problems with the plane's oxygen systems, alleging that
- 11:06Speaker 1: one in four breathing masks would not work in the
- 11:09Speaker 1: event of an emergency. Barnett claimed he alerted superiors at
- 11:13Speaker 1: the plant about his misgivings, but no action was ever taken.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Boeing denied this, as well as his claims. Oh, I'm
- 11:19Speaker 1: sure they did. What, are they going to run up
- 11:21Speaker 1: and say, oh, you know what, he told us all
- 11:23Speaker 1: about this, and we didn't do anything, we just let
- 11:25Speaker 1: people die? Yeah, not going to do that. However, a
- 11:30Speaker 1: 2017 review by the Federal Aviation Administration went on to
- 11:34Speaker 1: stand up some of Barnett's qualms, including finding that at
- 11:37Speaker 1: least 53 non-conforming parts, as they put it, were misplaced
- 11:42Speaker 1: and considered lost. Boeing was ordered to take immediate remedial
- 11:46Speaker 1: action by locating and detailing the lost parts. After the review,
- 11:50Speaker 1: the company went on to also concede that it had
- 11:53Speaker 1: identified some oxygen bottles received from the supplier that were
- 11:58Speaker 1: not deploying properly, but denied Barnett's claims that they were
- 12:01Speaker 1: actually fitted on the aircraft. Meanwhile, last week, the FAA
- 12:06Speaker 1: said a six-week audit found multiple instances where Boeing allegedly
- 12:10Speaker 1: failed to comply with manufacturing quality control requirements. Again, we're
- 12:14Speaker 1: talking about a jetliner, folks. We're not talking about, you know,
- 12:18Speaker 1: a sled. We're not talking about a hot wheel truck.
- 12:21Speaker 1: We're talking about a fucking airliner. Here's an idea. Do
- 12:24Speaker 1: your job correctly and do it with precision. FAA Administrator
- 12:28Speaker 1: Mike Whitaker said Boeing must develop a comprehensive plan to
- 12:32Speaker 1: address systemic quality control issues within 90 days after an
- 12:37Speaker 1: all-day February 27th meeting with CEO Dave Calhoun, but did
- 12:41Speaker 1: not say the specific corrective actions Boeing and Spirit must take.
- 12:45Speaker 1: He sent summary of its findings to the companies in
- 12:48Speaker 1: its completed audit. Boeing must commit to real and profound improvements,
- 12:53Speaker 1: Whitaker explained at the time. We are going to hold
- 12:55Speaker 1: them accountable every step of the way with mutually understood
- 12:59Speaker 1: milestones and expectations. Sounds like just a bunch of BS
- 13:03Speaker 1: to me. When's the last time a company like Boeing
- 13:06Speaker 1: was really held responsible for anything? Calhoun responded in a
- 13:09Speaker 1: statement that Boeing's leadership team was totally committed to addressing
- 13:13Speaker 1: FAA concerns. and developing the plan after Whitaker previously said
- 13:18Speaker 1: in January the goal of the audit was to look
- 13:20Speaker 1: at the system, look at how the inspections are done,
- 13:24Speaker 1: where they're done, how the interaction is with the suppliers,
- 13:27Speaker 1: how the handoff happens, just the whole process to really
- 13:30Speaker 1: understand how it works and where the faults might be.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Spirit Aerosystems, which makes a fuselage for the now-scrutinized MAX,
- 13:38Speaker 1: said it is in communication with Boeing and the FAA
- 13:42Speaker 1: on appropriate corrective actions. Well, that's nice to know, huh?
- 13:46Speaker 1: Here's an idea. Quit talking and just do it. Boeing
- 13:50Speaker 1: said in a response that by virtue of our quality
- 13:53Speaker 1: stand downs, the FAA audit findings and the recent expert
- 13:57Speaker 1: review panel report, we have a clear picture of what
- 14:00Speaker 1: needs to be done. Well, OK, so they better do it, right?
- 14:03Speaker 1: And if they don't, well, there's going to be hell
- 14:05Speaker 1: to pay because what happens next time they're flying over
- 14:08Speaker 1: the Indian Ocean and the door blows out and it
- 14:11Speaker 1: ends in tragedy? Meanwhile, the firm is now under criminal
- 14:15Speaker 1: investigation for the door incident on the Max plane this
- 14:18Speaker 1: past January, during which feds will examine whether Boeing has
- 14:22Speaker 1: met the conditions of the 2021 settlement reached after the
- 14:24Speaker 1: fatal 2018 and 2019 crashes that killed 346 people. The
- 14:32Speaker 1: first occurred when a MAX 8 operated by Indonesia's Lion
- 14:36Speaker 1: Air plunged into the Java Sea in October 2018. Nope,
- 14:40Speaker 1: no thank you. The whole thought of crashing into the
- 14:44Speaker 1: ocean is terrifying to me. And I know it probably
- 14:47Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You'll probably die, you know, long before you
- 14:50Speaker 1: get to the ocean. But the thought in my brain
- 14:53Speaker 1: is terrifying. And to think that these idiots are out
- 14:56Speaker 1: here dicking around when they should be making sure that
- 14:59Speaker 1: the plane is flight ready is just absolutely bananas. The
- 15:03Speaker 1: second was when Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX 8 crashed nearly
- 15:08Speaker 1: straight down into a field six minutes after takeoff from
- 15:12Speaker 1: Addis Ababa in March 2019. Boeing reached a $ 2. 5 billion
- 15:17Speaker 1: settlement with the FBI and the Transportation Department in the
- 15:21Speaker 1: wake of the crashes, admitting that two former employees had
- 15:24Speaker 1: misled the FAA over how much training a new flight
- 15:27Speaker 1: control system would require. Yo, it's one thing to lie
- 15:31Speaker 1: to your boss about sending an email or something. It's
- 15:34Speaker 1: a whole different story to say, oh, you know what?
- 15:36Speaker 1: Everything's flight worthy and you don't need that much training. Well,
- 15:40Speaker 1: breaking news. Yeah, you do. If the Justice Department finds
- 15:44Speaker 1: that Boeing has violated the terms of that settlement, they
- 15:47Speaker 1: could face prosecution on the original count of defrauding the U.S.
- 15:51Speaker 1: I hope they do. Boeing declined to comment on the
- 15:54Speaker 1: criminal investigation. Dailymail.com contacted Alaska Airlines for comment. Boeing is
- 16:00Speaker 1: also facing a civil lawsuit from a group of passengers
- 16:03Speaker 1: on board the flight. I don't blame them. If I
- 16:06Speaker 1: was on board some shitty flight and, you know, there
- 16:08Speaker 1: was some sort of issue that wasn't an accident and
- 16:12Speaker 1: it was something that could have been prevented and it
- 16:14Speaker 1: was negligence, yep, I want a bag too. I'm trying
- 16:17Speaker 1: to get some money out of that. You put me
- 16:19Speaker 1: through all kinds of pain and misery, so you better
- 16:22Speaker 1: damn well have that checkbook ready. Earlier this week, the
- 16:25Speaker 1: head of the National Transportation Safety Board accused Boeing of
- 16:29Speaker 1: failing to provide some key records sought in its ongoing
- 16:32Speaker 1: investigation into the midair cabin door emergency. NTSB Chair Jennifer
- 16:37Speaker 1: Homendy said investigators have sought the names of the 25
- 16:41Speaker 1: people who work on door plugs at Boeing's facility and
- 16:44Speaker 1: rent in Washington but have not received them from Boeing.
- 16:48Speaker 1: It's absurd that two months later we don't have it,
- 16:50Speaker 1: Homendy said at a Senate Commerce Committee hearing on Wednesday.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Boeing insisted that it had initially provided the NTSB with
- 16:58Speaker 1: some of the names of Boeing employees, including door specialists
- 17:02Speaker 1: it believed would have relevant information. Senator Ted Cruz, the
- 17:06Speaker 1: top Republican on the Commerce Committee, called it utterly unacceptable
- 17:11Speaker 1: that the NTSB was not receiving full cooperation from Boeing.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Homendy also confirmed that the MAX 9 door plug had
- 17:18Speaker 1: moved during prior flights, citing markings on the door. The
- 17:22Speaker 1: door plug incident has been followed by a string of
- 17:25Speaker 1: bad press for Boeing, which has made headlines in recent
- 17:28Speaker 1: weeks for issues with planes, including an engine exploding on
- 17:31Speaker 1: a flight out of Texas and a wheel falling off
- 17:34Speaker 1: on takeoff at San Francisco. Last month, another Alaska Airlines
- 17:38Speaker 1: plane landed safely in Portland with its cargo door open.
- 17:42Speaker 1: I mean, how is this even real life? We're in
- 17:44Speaker 1: the year 2024 and you guys can't figure this shit
- 17:47Speaker 1: out yet? Alaska Airlines Flight 1437 from Las Cabos, Mexico
- 17:53Speaker 1: arrived in Portland International Airport and photo showed the open door.
- 17:57Speaker 1: It's unclear how long the door was open for, but
- 18:00Speaker 1: the flight did not require an emergency landing. There was
- 18:03Speaker 1: no indication that the door was open during the flight,
- 18:06Speaker 1: according to crew members, which points to the door opening
- 18:09Speaker 1: after landing. Either way, if it opened after landing, what's
- 18:13Speaker 1: to say it's not going to open mid-flight? There was
- 18:16Speaker 1: no indication to the crew that the door was unsealed
- 18:19Speaker 1: during flight, and all indications point to the door partially
- 18:22Speaker 1: opening after landing. Our maintenance teams inspected the aircraft, replaced
- 18:26Speaker 1: a spring in the door, tested the door, and re-entered
- 18:30Speaker 1: it into service. After relocating in May, Boeing has sought
- 18:33Speaker 1: to move past the fallout from the two crashes, with
- 18:36Speaker 1: the wrongful death inconsistencies now serving as its last obstacles.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Such disputes over damages and the deceased's final moments are
- 18:45Speaker 1: not unusual, legal experts told the Journal, namely in states
- 18:49Speaker 1: like Illinois, where laws exist only allowing damages dished out
- 18:53Speaker 1: for a plaintiff's grief and loss, not for suffering. Pointing
- 18:58Speaker 1: to a lack of sufficient evidence, the victims experience pain
- 19:01Speaker 1: and suffering between their injuries and deaths, Boeing attorneys say
- 19:05Speaker 1: the company should not be liable for those proposed payments.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there was no grief and suffering on those planes.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Everybody was just in a nice, you know, pacified state
- 19:15Speaker 1: as the plane was blowing up and crashing. These corporations
- 19:18Speaker 1: like Boeing need to get chin-checked. The battle over whether
- 19:22Speaker 1: the planemakers should have to pay for the victim's suffering
- 19:25Speaker 1: comes more than two years after Boeing admitted responsibility for
- 19:28Speaker 1: the second crash as part of a deal to obtain
- 19:31Speaker 1: legal immunity from the federal government. Imagine the government giving
- 19:35Speaker 1: them immunity. So gross. Just like the banking system, right?
- 19:39Speaker 1: I guess it's too big to fail. The company at
- 19:42Speaker 1: the time conceded to the U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor
- 19:45Speaker 1: that the company had conspired to defraud the United States
- 19:49Speaker 1: when it lied about the plantings. safety features in hearings
- 19:51Speaker 1: and documents after the crashes, which left all MAX jets
- 19:55Speaker 1: grounded worldwide for nearly two years. That cost Boeing more
- 19:59Speaker 1: than $ 20 billion. The deal saw attorneys for plaintiffs agree
- 20:03Speaker 1: to take potential punitive damages off the table in the suits,
- 20:06Speaker 1: of which there were roughly 80. Punitive damages refer to
- 20:10Speaker 1: the amount of money defendants are ruled to pay as
- 20:13Speaker 1: part of their punishment. And remember, we're talking about Mr.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Barnett's alleged suicide, and this is all the background. So
- 20:20Speaker 1: there's certainly some merit here when you're talking about the
- 20:23Speaker 1: possibility that Mr. Barnett didn't take his own life. One
- 20:27Speaker 1: of the biggest motivators for people when they're committing murder
- 20:30Speaker 1: is money. And there sure is a lot of people
- 20:32Speaker 1: here that are on the hook to lose a lot
- 20:34Speaker 1: of it. Under the controversial deal, the Justice Department agreed
- 20:38Speaker 1: not to prosecute the company for conspiracy to defraud the government,
- 20:42Speaker 1: effectively granting it legal immunity. Families of the victims quickly
- 20:47Speaker 1: spoke out against the decision, however, demanding justice for the victims.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Both Boeing and the DOJ opposed reopening the agreement, of course.
- 20:56Speaker 1: The DOJ loves to give out shit deals. Just look
- 20:59Speaker 1: at Epstein. In a court filing in November, the Justice
- 21:02Speaker 1: Department said it did not oppose undoing the agreement and
- 21:06Speaker 1: properly arraigning Boeing, but said undoing the agreement would impose
- 21:09Speaker 1: serious hardships on the parties and the many victims who
- 21:13Speaker 1: have received compensation. As backlash from families persisted, the Justice
- 21:17Speaker 1: Department in January announced that it would do away with
- 21:20Speaker 1: the 2021 deal, which saw the company pay $ 2. 5 billion
- 21:25Speaker 1: to the Justice Department as part of the settlement and
- 21:28Speaker 1: move forward with the manufacturer's arraignment. Again, how come they
- 21:31Speaker 1: can't do that with Epstein's deal? You already know. The
- 21:34Speaker 1: reason they won't do that with Epstein's deal is because
- 21:36Speaker 1: they don't want to screw any of their faves. They
- 21:39Speaker 1: don't want their faves to be caught up, so they
- 21:41Speaker 1: can't do that with Epstein. But don't let anybody tell
- 21:43Speaker 1: you they can't get rid of a deal. They most
- 21:45Speaker 1: certainly can. the government has and will continue to rip
- 21:49Speaker 1: up proffers and 302s whenever they damn well see fit.
- 21:53Speaker 1: And that's why I go so hard on that NPA
- 21:56Speaker 1: when it comes to Epstein. Same deal here. If you
- 21:59Speaker 1: got an NPA, a non-prosecution agreement, and you weren't completely
- 22:02Speaker 1: honest with the government, they can rip that proffer up
- 22:05Speaker 1: right away. At the time, Boeing's chief of safety, Mike Delaney,
- 22:09Speaker 1: entered a not guilty plea on behalf of the planemaker,
- 22:12Speaker 1: During arraignment, relatives of those killed decried the company, saying
- 22:17Speaker 1: it committed the deadliest corporate crime in U.S. history. Well,
- 22:21Speaker 1: let's not go that far, but certainly up there. The planes, however,
- 22:25Speaker 1: were cleared to fly again in 2021 after Boeing overhauled
- 22:29Speaker 1: an automated flight control system that activated erroneously in both crashes,
- 22:34Speaker 1: after promising to look into the plane's safety issues. Officials, however,
- 22:39Speaker 1: would only choose to ground 737s after a second crash,
- 22:42Speaker 1: this time in Ethiopia, just five months later. Following an
- 22:46Speaker 1: investigation in 2020, Boeing blamed both crashes on a failure
- 22:50Speaker 1: in the plane's flight control system, which caused the plane
- 22:53Speaker 1: to turn sharply downward while in the air. Can you imagine?
- 22:58Speaker 1: Sitting there on this plane, reading a book, whatever the
- 23:00Speaker 1: fuck it is you're doing, all of a sudden this
- 23:02Speaker 1: takes place? 737 MAX jets were once again cleared to
- 23:06Speaker 1: fly in November after two years after being grounded, with
- 23:10Speaker 1: Boeing at the time branding the plane safe for passengers.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Boeing had previously agreed to a $ 200 million penalty from
- 23:18Speaker 1: the SEC to settle charges that it negligently violated the
- 23:22Speaker 1: anti-fraud provisions of U.S. securities law. So in other words,
- 23:26Speaker 1: they can just break whatever law they want. They can
- 23:28Speaker 1: just do whatever they want, and they're never going to
- 23:30Speaker 1: be prosecuted. Must be nice. The agency argued that just
- 23:35Speaker 1: one month after the first crash, the company selectively highlighted
- 23:38Speaker 1: certain facts implying pilot error and poor aircraft maintenance was
- 23:42Speaker 1: what led to the crashes instead of a technical issue. Well,
- 23:46Speaker 1: of course, they got to blame somebody, right? Never can
- 23:48Speaker 1: be them. Got to be somebody else. Let's blame the pilot.
- 23:52Speaker 1: That release failed to disclose that the company knew a
- 23:56Speaker 1: key flight handling system, the maneuvering characteristics augmentation system, post-safety issues,
- 24:02Speaker 1: and was never redesigned, the SEC argued. Then, after the
- 24:06Speaker 1: second crash, the agency said Boeing and Mullenberg assured the
- 24:09Speaker 1: public that there was no surprise or gap in the
- 24:12Speaker 1: federal certification of the MAX despite being aware of contrary information.
- 24:18Speaker 1: In times of crisis and tragedy, it is especially important
- 24:21Speaker 1: that public companies and executives provide full, fair, and truthful
- 24:25Speaker 1: disclosures to the markets, said SEC Chair Gary Gensler in
- 24:29Speaker 1: his press release. The Boeing company and its former CEO,
- 24:33Speaker 1: Dennis Mullenberg, failed in this most basic obligation. They misled
- 24:37Speaker 1: investors by providing assurances about the safety of the 737
- 24:42Speaker 1: MAX despite knowing about serious safety concerns. The SEC said
- 24:46Speaker 1: both Boeing and Mullenberg, in agreeing to pay, the penalties
- 24:50Speaker 1: did not admit or deny the agency's findings. Oh, of
- 24:53Speaker 1: course not. No denial here. We're not admitting nothing either, though.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Let's just pay this bill and keep it moving. And
- 25:00Speaker 1: if you have the right amount of money, folks, as
- 25:02Speaker 1: we have seen time and time again, you can pay
- 25:05Speaker 1: your way out of anything. Boeing said the agreement fully
- 25:09Speaker 1: resolves the SEC's inquiry and is part of the company's
- 25:13Speaker 1: broader effort to responsibly resolve outstanding legal matters related to
- 25:17Speaker 1: the 737 MAX accidents in a manner that serves the
- 25:21Speaker 1: best interests of our shareholders, employees, and other stakeholders, a
- 25:25Speaker 1: company spokesman said. We will never forget those lost on
- 25:29Speaker 1: Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, and
- 25:33Speaker 1: we have made broad and deep changes across our company
- 25:37Speaker 1: in response to those incidents. Yeah, as the doors blowing
- 25:39Speaker 1: open here in America, as we have, you know, incidents
- 25:43Speaker 1: over the Indian Ocean, sure, you guys are doing a
- 25:45Speaker 1: great job. Meanwhile, relatives in the remaining civil lawsuits have
- 25:50Speaker 1: enlisted their own expert witnesses to help their case and
- 25:53Speaker 1: address questions regarding their family members' final moments. Terrifying. absolutely,
- 25:59Speaker 1: positively terrifying to think about what it must have been
- 26:01Speaker 1: like to be on one of those planes. One of
- 26:06Speaker 1: those experts, aerospace physiologist Troy Faborg, wrote in a court
- 26:11Speaker 1: filing the victims very likely experienced issues such as panic,
- 26:15Speaker 1: nausea and vomiting, heart problems during the six-minute nosedive, giving
- 26:19Speaker 1: credence to their relative's argument. How can you say they didn't?
- 26:22Speaker 1: How can anyone sit here and say that people weren't
- 26:24Speaker 1: having heart attacks and all the rest of it? Because
- 26:27Speaker 1: I know damn well that's what was happening. You know
- 26:29Speaker 1: that you're plunging into the ocean or plunging to the
- 26:32Speaker 1: ground from 30,000 feet up and you're alive and well
- 26:35Speaker 1: while it's happening? Yeah, there's going to be some emotions.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Vicki Norton, a commercial airline pilot hired as a witness
- 26:43Speaker 1: by the plaintiffs, also wrote, It wasn't long before the
- 26:46Speaker 1: progressive loss of control and ultimate dive to the ground
- 26:49Speaker 1: would have not only been distressing but terror-inducing to all
- 26:53Speaker 1: passengers on board. Feds will now decide whether Boeing defied
- 26:57Speaker 1: the terms of the deal reached this past October. Just
- 27:00Speaker 1: think about being on a roller coaster and what that's like.
- 27:04Speaker 1: And then times that by about 500 million. And as
- 27:08Speaker 1: far as Mr. Barnett, you better believe I have some questions. Now,
- 27:12Speaker 1: does that mean that I'm going to sit here and
- 27:14Speaker 1: tell you that it wasn't a suicide? I can't tell
- 27:16Speaker 1: you that. I don't know. Same way I can't tell
- 27:19Speaker 1: you that it was. We need to find out more
- 27:22Speaker 1: details here, and we need to hear from the authorities
- 27:25Speaker 1: a little more about what went down. But even then,
- 27:28Speaker 1: in situations like this, I remain skeptical. Because when there's
- 27:31Speaker 1: so much on the line here, for a company like Boeing,
- 27:34Speaker 1: and then a gigantic coincidence like this happens, yeah, I
- 27:38Speaker 1: have questions. And so far, no answers to any of
- 27:41Speaker 1: those questions have been provided. So we're going to keep
- 27:44Speaker 1: on top of this one, like the other stories, and
- 27:47Speaker 1: see where it all ends up. All of the information
- 27:50Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
- 27:53Speaker 1: description box.