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Ken Rosenthal on Preller’s madness, SD-LAD + Merrifield joins FT to talk Blue Jays, Wheeler-less Phils · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Inside Scoop time with that FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,
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Speaker 1: good to see you, and I cracked open the notes
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Speaker 1: column from the weekend covering the Dodgers and the Padres.
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Speaker 2: I'll hand it.
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Speaker 1: Over to you for your favorite note that you put
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Speaker 1: in there, or something that people should definitely know, and
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Speaker 1: then it will encourage them to read the rest in
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Speaker 1: the Athletic.
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Speaker 3: The column is basically a collection of notes mostly about
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Speaker 3: the new players on each team. There's a little bit
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Speaker 3: about Taioscar Hernandez and the Dodgers outfield situation, but it's
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Speaker 3: mostly that the guys who are new players on both teams,
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Speaker 3: and of course the Padres have a number of new players.
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Speaker 3: My favorite note in there was the difference that Loriano
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Speaker 3: and Ryan O'Hearn took, or the different approaches they took
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Speaker 3: in deciding whether to travel with the Orioles before the deadline.
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Speaker 3: Lorianno went to Chicago with the team. This was the
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Speaker 3: day before the deadline. The night before deciding or thinking
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Speaker 3: in his head, Hey, if I'm going to Chicago and
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Speaker 3: I get traded to either coast, I'm good well, O'Hearn
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Speaker 3: decided to stay back in Baltimore. Now he thought maybe
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Speaker 3: I'm getting traded to Boston Milwaukee. He didn't think he
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Speaker 3: would be traded to the West Coast, and of course
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Speaker 3: what happens, they both end up with the Padres and Loriano.
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Speaker 3: We talked about this on the broadcast Saturday, AJ and I.
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Speaker 3: Loreano's comment to AJ Preller was, you're nuts for doing
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Speaker 3: both guys, getting both guys, and I thought that was
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Speaker 3: a pretty bold thing for someone to say after just
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Speaker 3: getting traded over to a new team.
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Speaker 4: Ken. We were both in San Diego this past weekend,
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Speaker 4: like you said, and we got to talk to Preller.
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Speaker 4: My takeaway from Preller is he just wants to win.
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Speaker 4: He just wants to win. He and we talked you
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Speaker 4: were there, We talked prospects, we talked pitching, we talked
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Speaker 4: everything right, we talked foul territory, we talked Ken Rosenthal,
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Speaker 4: we talked at all. To me, I like you more
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Speaker 4: after talking to him the first time I've ever met him,
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Speaker 4: and after he said what he said, Yeah, I want
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Speaker 4: to win. I want to get this done. San Diego
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Speaker 4: has never won. Prospects or prospects, I mean kind of
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Speaker 4: all the stuff we've talked about. He's like, yeah, I
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Speaker 4: can get twenty more prospects at the draft. I can
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Speaker 4: get more guys. I mean, he just wants to win
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Speaker 4: and he's a genius, and I don't know that that
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Speaker 4: guy sleeps.
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Speaker 3: Ever, well, that's a great point. We all wonder whether
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Speaker 3: aj Preller sleeps. And to me, what he has done
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Speaker 3: in recent years. Now you can look into the future
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Speaker 3: and say some of those contracts are going to haunt them.
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Speaker 3: That's probably true. But he has taken advantage of an
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Speaker 3: industry that is pretty conservative, of rival general managers and
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Speaker 3: heads of baseball operations who are reluctant to trade prospects,
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Speaker 3: who operate in a cautious manner, and his operation or
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Speaker 3: his way he goes about it is kind of the
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Speaker 3: opposite of everybody else. Now, Dave Dombrowski's like that to
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Speaker 3: some extent. Jerry Depoto, of course, there are others, but
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Speaker 3: no one is as extreme as aj Preller, and he
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Speaker 3: is taking advantage of everybody else's seemingly cautious approach and
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Speaker 3: it served him well. This team is right now as
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Speaker 3: good as it could be, I would think, granted you'd
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Speaker 3: like to see them hit for more power. Maybe Tatis
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Speaker 3: snaps out of it. He at the home run last night,
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Speaker 3: ended the longest streak of his career without one. But
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Speaker 3: top to bottom their depth, it's really good. And this
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Speaker 3: is several years now, not just one or two, but
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Speaker 3: several years where they've been good and competitive and a
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Speaker 3: World Series contender. I remember at the start of this
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Speaker 3: all when he started loading up again twenty twenty one,
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Speaker 3: whenever it was I was thinking, it's going to be
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Speaker 3: difficult for him to sustain this because he keeps trading
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Speaker 3: away young players. And yet, as you said, Ajay, he
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Speaker 3: has a way of replenishing his system, and that's because
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Speaker 3: he's one of the best evaluators in the game. They
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Speaker 3: continually come up with new players and this is a tribute,
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Speaker 3: as he said to us, to their scouting and player development,
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Speaker 3: the people working in those departments. So the formula works
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Speaker 3: for them. Now, does it end up with them winning
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Speaker 3: the World Series this year? I don't know, No one knows.
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Speaker 3: There is a certain amount of luck involved. But has
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Speaker 3: he put this team in the best possible position to win? Yes?
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Speaker 3: And does he have that city in an electric kind
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Speaker 3: of mindset with regard to the club. Just look at
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Speaker 3: their attendance. They're going to go over three point four
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Speaker 3: million this year. It's going to be another club.
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Speaker 5: Record, all right, So maybe you already hit it by
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Speaker 5: what you just said. But you talked about fair territory
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Speaker 5: a lot about rivalries. The one thing you didn't talk
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Speaker 5: about because you said, right now, the best rivalry currently
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Speaker 5: is the Dodgers in Padres. So if everybody believes you,
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying I do or I don't, which side
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Speaker 5: doesn't matter more to because you've seen the Dodgers' side
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Speaker 5: of it, you've seen the Padres side of it. Which
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Speaker 5: side doesn't matter more to because if that's imbalanced, maybe
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Speaker 5: that's not as much of a rivalry as people think.
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Speaker 5: Because the Red Sox Yankees, their rivalry is heated on
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Speaker 5: both sides.
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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of Yankees and Red Sox fans took
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Speaker 3: exception with me saying Padres Dodgers was better. That's part
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Speaker 3: for the course, and listen, it's a great debate and
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Speaker 3: maybe in the eyes of certain fans it's not a
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Speaker 3: great debate. But regardless, I would say, right now, Eric,
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Speaker 3: to answer your question, it matters more to the Padres.
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Speaker 3: And even though they knocked out the Dodgers in twenty two,
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Speaker 3: they have not won the World Series, and they still
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Speaker 3: want to kind of knock off the Dodgers, slay the dragon,
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Speaker 3: as I always say, and then go all the way
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Speaker 3: and kind of prove themselves once and for all on
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Speaker 3: equal footing. So, yes, the Dodgers of course want to
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Speaker 3: beat the Padres and everyone else as well. But there
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Speaker 3: is a hunter versus hunted kind of situation going on here,
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Speaker 3: and the Padres are the hunter, and to me, it's
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Speaker 3: kind of apparent in the way this whole thing has
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Speaker 3: evolved this season.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Ken, So the Dodgers were the other team playing
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Speaker 4: in that game this weekend, the Dodgers and the Padres.
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Speaker 4: And we talked to Dave Roberts a little bit about
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Speaker 4: Tayo and right field. What's the long term thought on
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Speaker 4: Tayo and right Muki at short? I know, you know,
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Speaker 4: they killed that pretty quickly, and the Mookie is not
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Speaker 4: going back to right field, but Conflorida and left you know,
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Speaker 4: when Keith k comes back, Edmund comes back, Kim comes back.
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Speaker 4: Once he comes back, they're gonna have a roster crunch.
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Speaker 4: So what do they do with Taylor? Do they leave
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Speaker 4: him in right field? Noboe gets better?
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Speaker 3: Good question? First off, they should not move Mooki to
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Speaker 3: right field in my opinion, And I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 3: Mooki is playing right now. A brilliant shortstop really, if
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Speaker 3: you watch him play, he is adapted or has adapted
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Speaker 3: to that position as well as anyone possibly could. He
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Speaker 3: is shown that he can play it and play it
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Speaker 3: at a high level. So they are good with him
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Speaker 3: in shortstop. Now, the outfield, the situation with Hernandez is this,
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Speaker 3: If you play him and right, you're gonna have guys
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Speaker 3: going first to third. If you play him in left,
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Speaker 3: you're gonna have guy stretching singles into double. That's kind
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Speaker 3: of lesser of two Evils type of thing. He was
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Speaker 3: not a particularly good defender last season and left during
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Speaker 3: the regular season, but in the postseason was much better.
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Speaker 3: So I would expect that they're gonna keep him in
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Speaker 3: right because he does prefer right. He believes he sees
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Speaker 3: the ball better off the bat and right. And then
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Speaker 3: figure out left and center. Between Edmund and Hernandez and
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Speaker 3: Kim coming back, you can do a number of things there. Now,
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Speaker 3: there is some school of thought where their best defensive
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Speaker 3: outfield might be pies and right, Edmund and center. Tao
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Speaker 3: in left. But I don't know that they see it
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Speaker 3: that way. I don't know that they see it's that
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Speaker 3: much of a difference Tao and right or left. But
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Speaker 3: once these players come back, yes, it gives them a
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Speaker 3: much stronger group of players to choose from in the outfield.
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Speaker 3: And sure, Michael CONFORDO, because of all this, because of
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Speaker 3: all these guys returning, his spot's going to be in jet.
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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 5: These two teams are gonna, most likely if one of
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Speaker 5: them is gonna face off with the Phillies in the playoffs.
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Speaker 5: Right now, the Phillies are in a good position, but
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Speaker 5: the Zach Wheeler loss. How much does that affect the Phillies'
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Speaker 5: playoff chances of winning not making the playoffs, but of winning.
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Speaker 3: Eric If we put odds on it and ask the question,
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Speaker 3: are the Phillies chances of winning the World Series better
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Speaker 3: with Zach Wheeler or without? Or what are those chances?
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Speaker 3: There's no question higher with Wheeler. The question is ultimately now,
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Speaker 3: can they win the World Series without Zach Wheeler? I
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Speaker 3: believe they can. I believe they can because Christopher Sanchez
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Speaker 3: and Rangers Suarez and Aaron Nola if he continues what
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Speaker 3: he did in his last start, and Jesus Lozardo and
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Speaker 3: even Taiwan Walker. It gives them a very good place
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Speaker 3: to start in their rotation. It's not the same as
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Speaker 3: it would be with Zach wheel No one would question that.
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Speaker 3: But given that, and given that their bullpen is much
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Speaker 3: improved with Duran and David Robertson, I still like them.
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Speaker 3: And we talk about hunger and desire and all that stuff,
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Speaker 3: the intangibles. They've got that too. Because they have not
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Speaker 3: won a World Series with this group, and this group
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Speaker 3: is getting older, real Mutto and Schwarber free agents. I
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Speaker 3: expect they probably will resign both, but they know this
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Speaker 3: is their time. It's not going to get any easier
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Speaker 3: next year. So I would expect that the Phillies will
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Speaker 3: make a strong push here. And do they have the
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Speaker 3: starting pitching necessary Well, not the way they did with Wheeler,
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Speaker 3: but yes, in my opinion, they.
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Speaker 4: Still do ken a little off the radar here. I
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Speaker 4: just want to ask you this. You're from Baltimore. The
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Speaker 4: Basayo contract, what does that mean for Adli Rutchman? Does
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Speaker 4: that mean he's necessarily gone? Because there's people saying, oh,
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Speaker 4: this means they've given up on Rutchmand. So what does
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Speaker 4: the Basayo contract mean for Adley Rutchman going forward?
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Speaker 3: Well, first off of AJM not from Baltimore, but I
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Speaker 3: worked there a long.
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Speaker 4: Time alive Ken, that's what that's right.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that Rushman is in any trouble there
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Speaker 3: or anything like that. And we do not know yet
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Speaker 3: if Samuel Bisseio is a bona fide major league catcher.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions about his defense. And also,
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Speaker 3: you cannot give up on Adlie Rushman, the former number
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Speaker 3: one pick in the draft off an injury. Mort's season
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Speaker 3: coming off a bad second half. I know it hasn't
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Speaker 3: been good, and it's been curious to me that this
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Speaker 3: has happened to him. This is a player, remember who
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Speaker 3: the Orioles drafted one spot ahead of Bobby wit Junior,
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Speaker 3: So he has that pedigree. He is someone that is
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Speaker 3: very much respected in the game. But at some point,
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Speaker 3: like any other player, you've got to perform. The real
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Speaker 3: question might be if Rushman isn't the guy, and if
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Speaker 3: Pisiah ultimately is a first baseman DH, then what do
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Speaker 3: the Orioles do at catcher. But we're getting ahead of ourselves.
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Speaker 3: I don't expect Adlie Rush to be anywhere else next season,
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Speaker 3: and I do expect him ultimately to be a much
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Speaker 3: better player than he's shown the last year and a half.
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Speaker 4: Ken, before we let you go, how happy are you
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Speaker 4: that you're not five foot seven tall? Right now?
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Speaker 3: I'm never happy that I'm not five foot.
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Speaker 4: Seven, Jazz, I think, Hey, I heard Jazz say, heard
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Speaker 4: you say that the Yankees Red Sox wasn't the best rivalry,
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Speaker 4: So then he decided to almost kill you here in
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Speaker 4: the cameral. Don't say it wasn't close, because its fall
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Speaker 4: is really close to your face. Now you weren't looking.
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Speaker 4: You need to pay attention a little better. But look
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Speaker 4: at that Look at that Ken.
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Speaker 6: You don't even flinch, Aj.
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Speaker 3: It was a few feet away, Honestly it was. And
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Speaker 3: am I guilty or have I been guilty in the
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Speaker 3: past of not having my eyes on the field. Yes,
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Speaker 3: there have been times I took a broken finger at
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Speaker 3: ten stitches one year because I was tweeting something. And
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Speaker 3: just in the All Star Game, I'll reveal this, even
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Speaker 3: though it's rather embarrassing. A foul ball came into the
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Speaker 3: Dugout and Al the Gonzalez from ESPN was doing ESPN
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Speaker 3: Radio and I was looking down and all of them goes, dude,
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Speaker 3: that really almost hit you. And it was a pretty
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Speaker 3: screaming line drive. So yeah, it gets icy down there.
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Speaker 3: But with that particular one, I know what it looked like,
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Speaker 3: and I know there are some stuff going on with
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Speaker 3: social media, but it really wasn't that close and I
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Speaker 3: did see it.
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Speaker 1: Ken hypothetical scenario, would you take a baseball to the body,
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Speaker 1: not the head, no head injuries, right below the body
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Speaker 1: to break a big story that you were getting, like
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Speaker 1: a big trade or something like that. Would you take
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Speaker 1: the sacrifice of you know, a baseball to the arm,
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Speaker 1: to the stomach, something like that, a spot that it's
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna kill you, it's just gonna leave a
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Speaker 1: significant bruise for a while.
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Speaker 3: Scott, why would I need to do that? Like, under
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Speaker 3: what scenario would take a baseball body?
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Speaker 4: Resulted me Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift getting engaged. You're
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Speaker 4: breaking it and you take one to the chips.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you're saying, I'm in the middle of a tweet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the middle of a tweet and there's
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Speaker 1: a pitch coming and you're like, hey, this just came in.
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Speaker 1: This is the biggest trade or transaction of the year.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to risk this pitch knowing that that pitch
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Speaker 1: could smoke me, And well, I've actually get hurt as
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Speaker 1: as I've.
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Speaker 3: Done it when I had the broken finger. I think
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Speaker 3: this was in twenty thirteen. It was the final broadcast
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Speaker 3: of the season. It was the Reds and the Pirates
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Speaker 3: and they were actually playing for seating in the wild
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Speaker 3: Card and that play happened in like the fourth inning.
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Speaker 3: I think I was tweeting Terry Collins got extended something
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Speaker 3: like that with the Mets, and yeah, it hurt and
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Speaker 3: there was a lot of blood and I finished the game.
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Speaker 3: Age you should know that I finished the game. And
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Speaker 3: then after the game, this is a great story. The
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Speaker 3: Reds doctor goes home, the game is in Cincinnati. They
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Speaker 3: take me to the Pilot training room to get stitched up.
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Speaker 3: The Pirates doctor is stitching me up and it hurts.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's hurting pretty good. But Justin Morneau, Canadian
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Speaker 3: former hockey player, maybe one of the toughest players in
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Speaker 3: the game at the time, is sitting on the training table.
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Speaker 3: Aj So I'm sitting there basically wanting to cry like
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Speaker 3: a baby in scream, but I couldn't say a word.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's good, thank god, thank god it But here's
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Speaker 4: here's what I really want to know. Who did the
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Speaker 4: ball almost hit? You didn't tell the whole story? Who
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Speaker 4: did the ball almost hit? Okay, tell the whole story.
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Speaker 3: I will tell the whole story. This is the jash
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Speaker 3: chism player referring to. So the ball hit the screen
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Speaker 3: over the camera. Well, and if it had not been
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Speaker 3: a situation where there was a screen, that ball would
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Speaker 3: have hit your Novak Djokovic. He's sitting right there. You
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Speaker 3: can't really see him. He's sitting right there. It might
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Speaker 3: have caught him in their face and we would have
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Speaker 3: had a different US open. So Novak's the lucky one
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Speaker 3: really because the screen was there.
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Speaker 4: Again, but he's tall. Ken, That's why he's tall. He's tall.
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Speaker 2: Wait, whoa you guys married the lead?
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Speaker 4: Ken was supposed to tell that Ken married the lead?
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Speaker 1: S That's that's real news. I haven't seen that. Is
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Speaker 1: that known? Is that public knowledge?
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Speaker 5: I don't know?
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Speaker 4: Is now? Yeah? He said, if you watch the replay,
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Speaker 4: you can see Jokovic sitting there.
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Speaker 1: Right, But one day there there is a documentary how
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Speaker 1: one little screen saved the US Open in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that part.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a notable name, and it's it's not
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Speaker 1: just a famous name, it's a name that's super relevant
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Speaker 1: to what's going on right now in sports.
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Speaker 4: Ken, think about this. If that ball hits Djokovic, then
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Speaker 4: think about how many Yankee fans are mad at Jazz.
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Speaker 4: They're not only mad about the bad throw, but then
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Speaker 4: he ruined the US Open. So then there's worldwide fans
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Speaker 4: mad at Jazz for that bad throw. So forget you.
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Speaker 4: But like, if you do watch the replay, you can
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Speaker 4: see Djokovic just sitting there and he kind of flinches. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 4: Ken just it was like this screenager.
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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask because some people saw
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Speaker 1: that Ken and they were like, it's Ken stone cold
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Speaker 1: that he's just been down in the camera well so
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Speaker 1: often that he just knows where the baseball's going and
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Speaker 1: doesn't react.
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Speaker 2: It was cool. It was worth a few minutes, and
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Speaker 2: that's what.
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Speaker 3: I told you. In that situation. It just wasn't that close.
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Speaker 3: But as I said, again, making myself look bad there
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Speaker 3: have been situations where, yeah, I've had my head down.
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Speaker 4: It's not smart, Ken, Ken, what's the worst camera well
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Speaker 4: in the league? Worst camera well in the league for you.
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Speaker 3: Well, from a site perspective or just from getting into.
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Speaker 4: It, just just the worst. Like there's if someone asked
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Speaker 4: me what's the worst place to play? I have an answer,
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Speaker 4: what's the worst place? What's the best place?
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Speaker 3: The Mets and Padres City Field and Peco Park they
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Speaker 3: are difficult camera wells actually to get into. There's not
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Speaker 3: a door or anything. You got to kind of climb
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Speaker 3: into them. So from that perspective those two. Now, there
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Speaker 3: was a situation once at Fenway, since we're talking about this,
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Speaker 1: First, So what do you think about the Blue Jays
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Speaker 1: and your boy George Springer?
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Speaker 2: Happened a year?
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Speaker 6: Yeahs kill it. He's doing great.
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Speaker 8: Uh, I mean, he's just he's I just, I guess
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Speaker 8: so frustrated people when they talk about the age thing,
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Speaker 8: like because everyone ages differently. Just because he had a
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Speaker 8: tough year, right, you know, for him, a tough last
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Speaker 8: two years doesn't mean that it's his age catching up.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 8: The baseball so validole. There could be a number of
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Speaker 8: things going on. He had had a bad elbow injury
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Speaker 8: that was coming back from, which a lot of times
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Speaker 8: puts you in bad habits with your swing, and when
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Speaker 8: you're a good player like him, it just takes a
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Speaker 8: minute to refine it once it clicks for you. I mean,
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Speaker 8: he's going off. So he's playing great. Blue Jays are
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Speaker 8: playing great. They're a fun team. The city's behind him,
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Speaker 8: the country is behind him. It's right, it's rocking in
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Speaker 8: the Rogers Center, and it's going to be exciting as
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Speaker 8: the fall gets here.
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Speaker 4: Can they do it?
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Speaker 6: Can they do that?
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Speaker 4: That's I think everyone looks at it and says, can
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Speaker 4: the Are the blue Jays one for real? Because a
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Speaker 4: lot of people don't know a lot about They don't
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Speaker 4: flat and they know they bow a little bit, but
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Speaker 4: they don't know about the rest of the guys. So
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Speaker 4: can the Blue Jays go ninety two ninety three and
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Speaker 4: win the whole thing?
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Speaker 8: They definitely can they do? I mean, I really seriously
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Speaker 8: did they Can? They just they're gonna need a couple
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Speaker 8: guys in the bullpen. This stuff up they're starting pitching
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Speaker 8: is phenomenal, maybe the best in the league now that
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Speaker 8: they got Beaver back looking like benached Beaver and some
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Speaker 8: guys in the bullpen, like like a Louis Arland. Hafey's
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Speaker 8: kind of been He's had some really good stretches and
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Speaker 8: then a couple of games that haven't haven't miss so good.
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Speaker 8: And if he could just bottle those those good stretches
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Speaker 8: and be a shutdown closer that he is a pair
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Speaker 8: with the guy like Louis Arland and some guys that
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Speaker 8: can come in and.
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Speaker 6: Make you look silly. I think they really do have
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Speaker 6: a chance, all.
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Speaker 5: Right, you're just off the field. The rhetoric right now
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Speaker 5: is any team right now that makes it to the
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Speaker 5: playoffs can't win the World Series without hitting the dingers.
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Speaker 5: But then when the team doesn't win the World Series
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Speaker 5: because they're striking out so much and they're not hitting
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Speaker 5: and they're only hitting dingers, then it's like, well they
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Speaker 5: strike out too much. Do you believe in this game
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Speaker 5: right now? Because neither me or AJ have played in
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Speaker 5: the last five years? You can win the World Series
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Speaker 5: without hitting dingers?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Kansas City did it in twenty fifteen. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like forever ago though, you know, I
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Speaker 6: forget that it's twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 8: But you know, when someone someone doesn't win the World
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Speaker 8: Series is because something didn't go as good as the
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Speaker 8: other teams. They either didn't score enough runs, they didn't
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Speaker 8: pitch as well, they didn't put as many balls in play.
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Speaker 8: So anyone that doesn't win, obviously something didn't happen to
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Speaker 8: keep them from winning. So you're always pulling fingers. You
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Speaker 8: can always say things, but it's sports, you know, it's
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Speaker 8: you gotta do. You gotta do everything right at the
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Speaker 8: right time if you want to win a championship. And
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Speaker 8: that's so different than any than basketball. All we didn't
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Speaker 8: make enough threes, well, yeah, because other team made more.
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Speaker 8: And it's just it's just part of it. And people
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Speaker 8: just like to complain.
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Speaker 4: And now that you're a media member, you'll get used
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Speaker 4: to complaining because you have the double wam. You played
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Speaker 4: baseball and your media members, so you've created complaining. Both
23:51
Speaker 4: of those are great jobs at complain. Yeah, I'm just
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Speaker 4: gonna teach you some you don't score enough runs and
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Speaker 4: the other team scores more, you lose, like every time,
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Speaker 4: So just keep that in mind.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, just keep that of mine. Yep, going forward.
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Speaker 4: That if you don't score every runs, you usually don't.
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Speaker 6: Win at least at least ninety games. Score enough.
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Speaker 2: That's media one, O one.
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Speaker 1: What about the Phillies, So you know, we just saw
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Speaker 1: the loss of Zach Wheeler for the rest of the season,
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Speaker 1: which is really tough with them. They have a great
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Speaker 1: rotation anyway, but what do you think about their chances?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's that that's just a that's a
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Speaker 8: real punch in the gut just because as good as
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Speaker 8: he's been, he's just the steady Eddie. Especially in the playoffs,
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Speaker 8: you just know what you're gonna get when Wheeler goes
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Speaker 8: out there, and it's he's he's the guy. And really,
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Speaker 8: there's nobody if I'm if I got a playoff game
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Speaker 8: I need to win, there's nobody I would rather have
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Speaker 8: out there than Zach Wheeler.
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Speaker 6: And so that's you know, that's that's that sucks.
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Speaker 8: A guy like that goes down, and but they have
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Speaker 8: the guys that that can that can step in and
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Speaker 8: pick them up.
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Speaker 6: Sanc she's having an incredible year.
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Speaker 8: Uh Nola's bad getting healthy, and you know you got
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Speaker 8: you got Ranger who's who's also been really studying the postseason.
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Speaker 8: So you got guys that can that just need to
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Speaker 8: step up and take over that role, and they have
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Speaker 8: the guys that can do it. And then you got
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Speaker 8: a banging offense and and now you got Duran coming
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Speaker 8: in with the spy entrance, and so you don't want
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Speaker 8: to get to the ninth when being down and all.
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Speaker 4: Right, so Blue Jays Phillies World Series, who are you rooting for?
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Speaker 4: That'd be electric, that would be like, that would be amazing.
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Speaker 4: The Electric three right when they had the last one. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it was here a home run in that series. It
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Speaker 4: worked out, it'd be good.
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't I wouldn't have a rooting interest, but I'm
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Speaker 6: such a liar. Well, Philly did boom me more than.
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Speaker 8: But I mean, I still have friends that I talked
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Speaker 8: to daily on both teams, and that would be the
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Speaker 8: see and probably get ticke us for easily those games.
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Speaker 6: So that's true. I would enjoy that.
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Speaker 1: Did you see the motivating pre aim speech from Manfred
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago?
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Speaker 8: I heard I was getting filled in a game. I
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Speaker 8: was getting filled in a little bit last night about it, yekes.
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Speaker 8: I really wish, I really wish I could have hung
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Speaker 8: on another year and just just to be a part
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Speaker 8: of that, just to have heard that.
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Speaker 2: But historic.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about the commissioner coming in for
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Speaker 1: a conversation like that before a game during the season.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I know, I know Rob trying to
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Speaker 8: trying to to mend the bridges of player relations and
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Speaker 8: trying to get in better graces with some of the players.
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Speaker 8: And I don't know if I mean a lot of
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Speaker 8: especially an older team like Philly like so those guys
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Speaker 8: are so routine oriented. I don't know if pregame is
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Speaker 8: the best time to do it, but you know what
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Speaker 8: else are you gonna be?
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Speaker 6: Is everybody gonna be together? So I get it in
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Speaker 6: that sense.
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Speaker 1: Did he do though, or any years that you were playing,
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Speaker 1: he would come pregame from one meeting yep?
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Speaker 2: And how did it go?
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Speaker 6: Uh? Not as bad as that?
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Speaker 1: What was he was he saying, hey, I want to
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Speaker 1: make the relationship better or was he getting into topics
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Speaker 1: where guys were like, okay, this is you know, collective
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Speaker 1: bargaining right before we're gonna play a game.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that that's how it started. Just you know, hey, guys,
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Speaker 8: I'm here to you know, we gotta this. Last CBA
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Speaker 8: didn't go well. I want it to be better. I
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Speaker 8: want better relationship with the players, which I agree with it,
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Speaker 8: you know, needs to be better. Sure, now I think
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Speaker 8: they're closer to the CBA, so there might be more
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Speaker 8: conversation of this is what we want and this is
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Speaker 8: why we think it's important for our game, and this
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Speaker 8: is what the ownership wants and so we're gonna this
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Speaker 8: is what's gonna happen.
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Speaker 6: And certain teams you can say that too.
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Speaker 8: Philadelphia Phillies are not that team, and I think they
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Speaker 8: made it known that we this is We're gonna stand
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Speaker 8: by what we want and you're not gonna come in
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Speaker 8: here and say anything different to us in our clubhouse,
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Speaker 8: especially