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"Pope vs Woke" (Tuesday, January 13, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 7: the prime directive? The prime Directive? Which I don't think
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  Speaker 7: anyone ever read the prime I don't think there actually
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  Speaker 7: was a print out of what the pre It basically
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  Speaker 7: was just whatever they wanted to put it in as
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  Speaker 7: a dramatic vehicle to say, can't mess with those people.
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  Speaker 7: smart enough to know. And I don't know's It's like
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  Speaker 7: Isaac Asimov's three Laws of Robotics and the flaw in it.
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  Speaker 7: a person, nor allow a person to have harm caused
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  Speaker 7: to them by inaction, and you must intercede if harm
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  Speaker 7: is taking place. So all of a sudden, well, humans
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  Speaker 7: are causing harm to other humans. We better do something
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  Speaker 7: about this. Oops.
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  Speaker 3: Ah.
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  Speaker 7: The world of poorly written laws and unintended consequences always
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  Speaker 7: the case, always the case. This morning, as we do
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  Speaker 7: break down our news this morning, here are the first
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  Speaker 7: things mentioned. The woke on a Rope Pope Leo taking
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  Speaker 7: on Orwellians style ideology. He says languages developing, which, in
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  Speaker 7: an attempt to be increasingly inclusive, ends up excluding those
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  Speaker 7: who do not conform. Iran, speaking of places where that happens,
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  Speaker 7: is getting ready to start executing protesters, along with the
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  Speaker 7: six hundred and forty six dead already in the riots
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  Speaker 7: going on in Tehran and surrounding towns. As the debate
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  Speaker 7: rages on what kind of protests they are, whether they're
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  Speaker 7: food riots or US and Israel created riots that has
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  Speaker 7: not been established yet, but Iran is getting ready to
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  Speaker 7: start executing the first of those protesters. French farmers surrounded
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  Speaker 7: Parliament with three hundred and fifty tractors this morning as
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  Speaker 7: they're afraid to deal that the European Union has made
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  Speaker 7: with South America is going to threaten their livelihoods, which
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  Speaker 7: are already struggling under lowe wages that they're being paid.
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  Speaker 7: Federal judge in Washington overturned a Department of Interior directive
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  Speaker 7: that halted the money flowing to the construction of a
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  Speaker 7: six point two billion dollar offshore wind project. According to
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  Speaker 7: Treasury Secretary Scott bessn't about ten percent of the federal
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  Speaker 7: budget is consumed in waste, fraud, and abuse that totals
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  Speaker 7: about six hundred billion dollars a year. Today's the day
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  Speaker 7: the Supreme Court starts hearing cases on Title nine protections
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  Speaker 4: What's what shun.
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  Speaker 20: Next?
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  Speaker 18: One after the other half timeside Inside have a single.
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  Speaker 7: So with woke on the rope now and the Pope
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  Speaker 7: taking aim at the ideology and Title nine in front
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  Speaker 7: of the Supreme Court is their cover? Charlie, of course,
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  Speaker 7: asked the imperative question. Does Catanji Brown Jackson recuse herself
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  Speaker 7: because she said to the Senate she can't tell what
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  Speaker 7: a woman is and what it is? But what is woman?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, there's the scientific and we used to be
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  Speaker 7: we used to be individualist enough, and I think the
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  Speaker 7: bigger part of wokeism is what the Pope was addressing
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  Speaker 7: a little bit as well, which is there's an individual
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  Speaker 7: in there, a creation of God, and more and more
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  Speaker 7: frequently they're suffering grievous issues psychologically, and so society ill
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  Speaker 7: equipped as a government to tell anyone how to give
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  Speaker 7: themselves a checkup from the neka, just indulges them with
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  Speaker 7: paid medical treatments that do nothing towards addressing the underlying issue.
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  Speaker 7: And how many instances have the government interceded in something
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  Speaker 7: medical or quasi medical that they've actually cured the disease?
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  Speaker 7: Oh wait, I didn't think you were going to come
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  Speaker 7: up with a lot of places where the government has
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  Speaker 7: cured a disease. No, because, as the poster says, if
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  Speaker 7: you can't be part of the solution, there's good money
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  Speaker 7: to be made at prolonging the problem. And so the
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  Speaker 7: government isn't in the business of fixing anything, perhaps more
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  Speaker 7: appropriately off fixing things like making sure they're stuck to
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  Speaker 7: the wall forever. The idea that we could have men
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  Speaker 7: playing women's athletics, I mean, when you think about it,
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  Speaker 7: When title Mind was even drafted, the concept was so
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  Speaker 7: overwhelmingly bizarre that if you were to bring it up.
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  Speaker 7: I don't waste our time with that stuff. We've got
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  Speaker 7: a busy committee agenda, and oh, just don't even bring
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  Speaker 7: that up. This is how you wind up with these
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  Speaker 7: blind spots in here and the Pope talking about hateful rhetoric.
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  Speaker 7: But the people who support transgenderism are the people who
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  Speaker 7: don't want to be told you can't be a boy
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  Speaker 7: because they're unhappy as a girl. And the government does
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  Speaker 7: your hands up, Oh, we're not gonna if you want
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  Speaker 7: to be a boy, we'll pay for it. Why are
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  Speaker 7: my tax dollars going to it. It's the same thing
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  Speaker 7: we were discussing yesterday at exactly this time about the
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  Speaker 7: High Amendment. Why are taxpayer dollars taken without volunteerism, taken
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  Speaker 7: by the threat of immediate imprisonment if you don't comply.
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  Speaker 7: Why were those things being forced on a population? Because
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  Speaker 7: if the government has no money of its own, so
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  Speaker 7: in order to spend money on something, they have to
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  Speaker 7: take it from somewhere else. The way they're printing it now,
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  Speaker 7: they're taking it from our great grandchildren. If we can
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  Speaker 7: hang on that long, so as we look at the
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  Speaker 7: woke world of words or weapons and that's truly what
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  Speaker 7: this is is woke is born of the idea that
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  Speaker 7: if you say something to me that I disagree with,
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  Speaker 7: that's as if you've injured me somehow. And that's a
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  Speaker 7: bigger problem than just the woke ideology. The idea that's
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  Speaker 7: saying something that I don't like could be considered a
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  Speaker 7: litigatedable offense is stunning to me.
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  Speaker 1: But that's where we are.
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  Speaker 7: That's where we are, Brett. We can't we can't legislate this.
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  Speaker 7: This is what happens when rampant populism takes over. We're
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  Speaker 7: out there trying to vote for somebody who's going to
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  Speaker 7: make us feel better. And that's the part. And I
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  Speaker 7: think it's important that you know this program me, as
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  Speaker 7: proprietor of it, make it abundantly clear what it is
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  Speaker 7: we stand for when it comes to transgenderism, Title nine
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  Speaker 7: and all of this. If somebody is having problems with
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  Speaker 7: who they are and we don't as a community try
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  Speaker 7: to help them get through those, we're failing as a society.
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  Speaker 7: We're not a civilized society anymore. So what is the
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  Speaker 7: profit motive of taking people, ostensibly, sterilizing them, permanently ruining
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  Speaker 7: them from a reproductive standpoint forever. Is it just a
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  Speaker 7: branch of the paul Erlick population bomb d growth myth?
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  Speaker 7: Or is that just a convenient accident. Oh, look look
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  Speaker 7: what they're doing. We can incorporate this. This is very
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  Speaker 7: similar to what we want. That's the insidious part of
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  Speaker 7: this is that a human being who feels horribly trapped
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  Speaker 7: in their body needs help, not indulgence, to find their happiness,
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  Speaker 7: to find out who they are. And I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to get into lesbian homosexual. That's a different matter for
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  Speaker 7: a different conversation. This is I am biologically a woman
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  Speaker 7: and I don't like it. Okay, Why you can't ask
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  Speaker 7: me that? And that's where we are. We're in a
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  Speaker 7: world where asking somebody what it is that pains them,
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  Speaker 7: Why is it that they are in such challenge that
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  Speaker 7: they need to disfigure themselves.
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  Speaker 1: In order to.
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  Speaker 7: Survive. It was so many instances, a young lady just
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  Speaker 7: two weeks ago burying testimony about how she's been trying
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  Speaker 7: desperately to get back to where she was. That's the
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  Speaker 7: part that we need to be focusing on, is the
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  Speaker 7: pain and the suffering that we're ignoring, that we're not
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  Speaker 7: doing anything about under the banner of somehow helping people.
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  Speaker 7: So that's where we stand when we get into this issue.
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  Speaker 7: That's always the starting point to me is what are
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  Speaker 7: we doing to help the people who are in such
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  Speaker 7: pain that they want to physically disfigure themselves? What has
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  Speaker 7: happened to cause this few? What has brought us about?
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  Speaker 7: And it could be a million different starting points. Abuses,
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  Speaker 7: a child, abuses, a teen, abuses atween. A lot of
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  Speaker 7: it comes from there. But we have to get that
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  Speaker 7: part because the Supreme Court's going to rule on this
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  Speaker 7: I just appreciate all the comments and the reaction to
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  Speaker 7: and I wanted to address this, Joe, why did you
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  Speaker 7: apathy becomes decline, that decline becomes anarchy, the anarchy begets tyranny,
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  Speaker 7: and we're back at the top of the clock again.
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  Speaker 7: And I've said it's a well worn path that the
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  Speaker 7: human race has been on in this circle. I would
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  Speaker 7: like to hope that this generation can avoid it because
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  Speaker 7: we have communications abilities that nobody else ever had. None
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  Speaker 7: of these other cycles. The Greeks, the Romans, they didn't
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  Speaker 7: have talk radio and newspapers and the internet and all
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  Speaker 7: these things they've shut off in Tehran. So maybe we
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  Speaker 7: can avoid that cycle. But capital is not the problem.
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  Speaker 7: Our inability to manage our greed. And there's and I
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  Speaker 7: apologize for this, that there are seven virtues that go
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  Speaker 7: along with each vice, and they are chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness,
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  Speaker 7: and humility. These are the counterbalancing vices. The same way
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  Speaker 7: you have a right to speak, but you have a responsibility.
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  Speaker 7: Every right, if it's truly a right, comes with a responsibility.
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  Speaker 7: You have to have an awareness of what the responsibility
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  Speaker 7: is that comes along with any right that you're going
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  Speaker 7: to enjoy or indulge in. The same is true with
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  Speaker 7: our vices. Every time greed comes along, you need to
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  Speaker 7: go find your inner charity lust when that bubbles up,
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  Speaker 7: you need to find your inner chastity when gluttony rears
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  Speaker 7: its ugly head, find your temperance when sloth knocks on
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  Speaker 7: your door. You have to find your diligence, your patience,
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  Speaker 7: your kindness, your humility. Because what we do right now
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  Speaker 7: is we wallow in our seven vices as if that's
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  Speaker 7: all there is. I fell prey to my vice. H
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  Speaker 7: So no, you can come back out of it. It's
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  Speaker 7: what we were taught. It's what Pope Leo is talking
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  Speaker 7: about as well. But there is always going to be capital.
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  Speaker 7: There's going to be some monetary system in which my
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  Speaker 7: efforts are rewarded by a constituency of some kind or another.
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  Speaker 7: And I know that's not populous, but that's you know,
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  Speaker 7: one of the problems with populism is that you wind
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  Speaker 7: up telling people what they want to hear rather than
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  Speaker 7: what they need to hear. And that's, you know, one
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  Speaker 7: of the declines in newspapers, right, Matt. The profit didn't know.
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  Speaker 1: The profit of a newspaper never came from the readers.
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  Speaker 7: It came from the advertisers, especially the classified advertisers.
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  Speaker 10: That wasn't the classified that was that was a gold mine.
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  Speaker 7: Sorry, because you're paying a kid minimum wage to do
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  Speaker 7: data entry and charging a couple hundred dollars for an
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  Speaker 7: eighth of an inch of column space. Yes, but also
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: the car companies and the real estate companies got charged
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  Speaker 7: those classified rates too.
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  Speaker 8: Oh sure.
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  Speaker 7: But part of that is the requirement then to have
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  Speaker 7: an all audience. So if people are reading your newspaper
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  Speaker 7: or listening to your radio program, then the advertising will
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: pay for the economics of it, to pay the electric
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: bill and the rent and those sorts of things. But
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: you have to have one leading the other. You have
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  Speaker 7: to have a product. Is it a shirt? Is it
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  Speaker 7: an audience of people willing to go to your shirt store?
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  Speaker 7: Those sorts of things. But there's always going to be
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  Speaker 7: theresa in exchange for value. Otherwise there is no value
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  Speaker 7: to anything anyway. Our value is done to you for
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: this morning until tomorrow morning at five Eastern. I am
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: Joe Thomas on the Talk Media Networks. So long and
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: thanks for all the fish.
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