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How Love and Science Supports Women Professionals with Infertility · Love and Science Fertility

• 0:32
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Episode 5, how Love and Science Supports Female Physicians and Professionals Experiencing Infertility.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: This episode, in part, was inspired by David Letterman, who has had his top 10 list before, and I came up with 10 ways, and of course there are so many more, but 10 ways that at Love and Science how we support female physicians and professionals that I really don't see in any other format.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: So the first way is that when you are a client at Love Science, you receive personalized one-on-one support tailored to you and your unique situation by an experienced, board-certified REI specialist.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: And that is me, dr Bove, right, because that is what I do, and I recently realized that many people don't know how a person becomes a fertility specialist, and so generally the path is four years of college, four years of medical school, four years of an OBGYN residency program, which is very, very rigorous, and then three additional years of subspecialty training in reproductive endocrinology and infertility, and what this means is that, basically, I never skipped a step, I never took a break, I went to school straight through and finally, at some point in my mid-30s, they let me loose to take care of actual patients unsupervised, and now I've been doing fertility medicine for over a decade now, which is really amazing and I adore it, and I think I'm at the point in my career which it's crazy to say, but technically I'm mid-career at this point where I feel like I've pretty much seen it all right.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: I intentionally chose to train in New York City for my residency.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: I was very fortunate to match at the University of Michigan where I did my fellowship training, and I chose it for many reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Both the breadth and the depth of the clinical experience there was very appealing to me because you get one shot at training and you don't want to leave training unprepared.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: And then you become an attending and you start taking care of thousands of patients and I carry each person's journey with me.
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: And part of the beauty of it is that when I see a patient or a client, I'm not just seeing them for the first time I mean I am, I need to get to know them and their goals but I'm also seeing them with the lens of the tens of thousands of patients I've seen before and also now that I'm a coach, you know all the clients I've seen, the hundreds of clients I've seen as well in that role and you know it just makes me think that no single experience is isolated and you know, the older I get, the wiser I get, the more knowledgeable I get.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so thankful to all those years and the continued practice that I get the wiser I get, the more knowledgeable I get.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: I'm so thankful to all those years and the continued practice that I get in my clinical medicine practice because it makes me a better coach, it makes me a better physician and what it means is that the people who are seeing me are not just seeing me as a person, but they're gaining the experience of all those years of blood, sweat, tears, toil, however you want to say it.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it hasn't been all hard.
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  Speaker 1: I adore my work, I get up every day and I get to do meaningful work.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: But when I take that to the you know fertility coaching lens, I think most people who find me really are at a point in their journey where they've already tried some treatment, they've already maybe even done in vitro fertilization and it's not working.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: Those are the people who find me most often and you know we really got to take three steps back and say, okay, you know, I don't have my doctor hat on at this moment, but obviously I come with the experience of a fertility physician, I can absolutely offer my perspective, which, again, it's not medical advice, but it's it's my perspective, with all this experience Again, it's not medical advice, but it's my perspective, with all this experience.
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  Speaker 1: And how can I take the identity of the person before me, the values, the goals, the traumas, the shame, the blame, whatever it is that is influencing the present process?
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: How can I take that?
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: How can I take that burden from the person, use both my loving brain, my scientific brain, and really transform that into that burden being released and unlocking the potential of that person to not only feel better throughout the process but have the highest chance of achieving their dream.
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: And that's what I believe in.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm, like I said, I'm thankful to everything that I've gone through thus far um to give me the knowledge and skills to be able to be that to people.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: And I want to be able to give in that way.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: You know it's like if you um, you know, have, have skill that is so helpful to people and it's it's it's not used to the fullest potential, then there are people who could be served, who are not being served.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind.
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: Number one is the tailored, personalized support, um, by me, and there may be a time when we have more fertility specialists on our team.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: That is a part of my goal as we grow, um, but right now it's it's me and my small team, and we are here for all of it.
• 5:34
  Speaker 1: Um, but right now it's it's me and my small team and we are here for all of it.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, so number two is that, at Love and Science, we help you overcome overwhelm and reclaim your life with our compassionate guidance.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: I would say one of the things I hear most often is just how small life has become with this journey, and how every single step, every decision is so overwhelming and painful, and so part of what I see as my role is looking at the overwhelm, breaking it down, shining a light on those thoughts and feelings, those thoughts that are causing the overwhelm, because this is what coaching teaches us is that anytime we have a feeling, it is preceded by a thought, and that thought is something that is not set in stone, but something that actually, if we look at it, we can change up our thoughts with quite some power.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: And so how can we take that feeling of overwhelm and stuckness and think about how we want to feel instead.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe we want to feel empowered.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe we want to feel empowered.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we want to feel like the fertility journey is just part of life and not the whole thing right now.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we want to have to free up some mental space to be able to read a book for fun or to go for a walk in nature, to have a romantic date with our partner if we have one.
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  Speaker 1: All those things are possible.
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  Speaker 1: It just takes some thought work, some mindset work and some 1% shifts.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm here for all of it and I really don't like overwhelm.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a heavy, heavy burden and I don't think it has to be a part of the fertility journey and I'm happy to help you befriend it and release it.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: Happy to help you befriend it and release it.
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  Speaker 1: The third way that Love Science supports female physicians and professionals is that I empower people to choose your next steps with confidence, knowing you have our unwavering support.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: So I think sometimes we get caught in these rumination loops and these decisions where it's like do I do this or do I do that?
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: And it could be even as minuscule, as like do I take Claritin and Pepsid or do I not?
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: And these are adjuncts which, by the way, have really no data behind them, but sometimes I think especially if we're physicians, also if we're educated professionals, like sometimes, those even small decisions can just take over our minds and we just get so worried that we're going to make the wrong decision, that is going to lead to a bad outcome, which is potentially not getting pregnant or having a miscarriage, and that we are somehow going to be personally responsible.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: So, as you all know by now, one of my three pillars is evidence-based, and so I am happy to share the evidence that exists.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to help you tap into your values and your priorities and really help you feel empowered to choose your next steps with confidence and clarity.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, so number four what's the fourth way that love and science helps female physicians and professionals experiencing infertility?
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: We have these amazing support groups on Friday nights and we also have a group chat as well, which is ongoing, and I firmly believe we are not meant to heal alone.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: We are truly meant to heal in community.
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  Speaker 1: I learned this as a young adult, as I went to support groups of my own, and I really started to believe in the power of groups, in the power to have our situations mirrored, to gain strength from the community and not just ourselves.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: Sometimes we're strong, sometimes we're weak, but it's like this collective pooling of resources, in this common humanity, which we see in the self-compassion piece of things, that we just realize that we're not alone and we are actually meant to support each other.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: Through this, and what you gain by being a part of this community is you gain lifelong friends, you gain meaningful relationships, you gain a community of this community is you gain lifelong friends.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: You gain meaningful relationships.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: You gain a community of people who truly understands your situation.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: I think so many of us realize that the fertility journey is just filled with people who don't understand, and so when you realize that you're not alone, that you have people who just see you, understand you and support you, I think that is a huge part of the value of love and science is the friends and the village, the tribe, really, that you gain along the way.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, so number five, the fifth way that love and science supports female physicians and professionals experiencing fertility.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: I love this one.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: We help you transform your inner critic into an inner coach.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: How many of us have this constant negative voice that's always telling us we're not good enough?
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  Speaker 1: You know, our bodies are not, are not good enough, we're not doing enough a good enough job at work, at home, in our relationships, like whatever it is.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: We are just plagued by this voice of like not good enough, not good enough, not good enough.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: And one thing I've realized through coaching is that we are just plagued by this voice of like not good enough, not good enough, not good enough.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: And one thing I've realized through coaching is that we can actually channel that energy, that inner critic, which is actually negative and somewhat destructive, and we can actually turn it into an inner coach.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: So somebody who still has the motivation of us reaching our full potential, but just couched in a much more positive relationship and much more affirming, positive, supportive language, where we know from the self-compassion literature that people actually achieve even greater things when they have a coach and not a critic Changes our brain chemistry.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: It's fascinating.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: So we use self-compassion, which is one of our other pillars.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: So we have the.
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  Speaker 1: Empowerment is one, self-compassion is another and evidence-based is the third.
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  Speaker 1: We use this self-compassion approach to listen to the words we use when we're talking to ourselves.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: Words matter, right?
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I've said this before.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: That word failure gosh like.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: How much better off would we be if we just eradicated that from our vocabulary.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: So, you know, as your loving coach, I gently encourage you to use loving language towards yourself, to be self-compassionate towards yourself, towards your decisions, to other people.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes we have a much easier time being compassionate to other people, much more so than we do to ourselves.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: And that inner coach like I'm your outer coach, right, but your inner coach will help you along throughout your day as you think about your journey, as you think about your life outside of your journey, and it just helps with how you learn to talk to yourself in general, which, as you all know by now too, my goal is not just to help you through the fertility journey, but to give you the tools you need to have a much more integrated, healthy, happy life.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: So, yes, self-compassion, inner critic, inner coach, and we do all of that at Love Science.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, so the sixth way that Love Science supports female physicians and professionals experiencing infertility is that we help you navigate the complexities of your emotions with our understanding and empathetic approach.
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  Speaker 1: So we know that the fertility journey is just riddled with complicated emotions.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: There can be anxiety, overwhelm, fear, disappointment, sadness, rage, frustration and maybe some lighter emotions like joy and hopefulness, and maybe you've just gotten good news and that's part of your story right now, but I think so much of it.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: I realized that when I looked at my schedule from my doctor hat.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: When I looked at my schedule from day to day, it was either new patients who I was just meeting for the very first time, but the rest of it was all people who had not gotten pregnant with whatever we were hoping to do, or people who had miscarriages.
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  Speaker 1: Because the people where this process is somewhat efficient, they thankfully, fortunately, are successful, they move on, they graduate.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: That's not the bulk of what we do in the fertility process.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: That's so happy when it happens that way, but it's really delving in the bad news.
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  Speaker 1: How do we take that bad news and process it?
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: How do we take that news and decide what our next steps are gonna be?
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: And for every person that's different, right, it depends on your emotional reserves, it depends on your financial resources, your insurance coverage, it depends on what your job might allow you to do, perhaps, and maybe sometimes even family support.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: So there's all sorts of different complexities that come up and we realize that sometimes we don't just hold one emotion at a time Usually we don't.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: It's at least two, sometimes eight, sometimes 10, sometimes 15.
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  Speaker 1: And we really learn how do you take those complicated emotions, feel them in your body and then let them go.
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  Speaker 1: Because if we stay controlled by our emotions, what we resist, resisting fear, that's only going to grow stronger as I put my forces against it.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: But if I can learn how to befriend those emotions, if I can feel those in my body, understand maybe where they're coming from and learn to live with them as a part of me right, but not all of me then the rest of life just gets so much more tolerable because I can not only can I move on, I can also have those emotions, maybe in a conversation with another person, and not completely freak out or shut down right.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: And it just helps me understand myself better and have more compassion for myself, because I am a human having human experience, and I think that we can take that lens, that we are just humans, earthlings, going through these steps of trying to achieve certain outcomes building your family, maybe for the first time, maybe subsequently all of it takes some tools for processing and that's what we offer at Love Science is the ability to feel the feelings, let them go and move on is the ability to feel the feelings.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Let them go and move on.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: The seventh way that Love Science supports female physicians and professionals experiencing fertility is that I help you discover authentic reasons for hope through evidence-based practices and personalized guidance.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: So authentic hope is one of my favorite things to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I am not a toxic positivity person.
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  Speaker 1: I am not a pie in the sky Pollyanna person that drives me bonkers, but I will tell you when I can really hang my hat on something that is authentically hopeful for a person or a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Say it's that somebody has successfully had a baby before.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really helpful thing to know.
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  Speaker 1: Say somebody has several euploid embryos in the freezer.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really optimistic sign.
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  Speaker 1: Say somebody is on the younger side.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe say they have a diagnosis which is often relatively easy to treat, like polycystic ovarian syndrome Not always, but sometimes.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Or maybe it's just mild male factor and I, my sense is, is that with some, maybe some mild lifestyle changes, that there might be a better outcome, even within a few months.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And so you know, there's all these reasons that I think we, we forget about the things that are going well and we just look about you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, I've done, you know, two ovulation induction cycles and I'm still not pregnant and this is never going to happen.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: I like to take the 30,000-foot view and say wait a second here.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Sure, that is super frustrating and it can induce a sense of hopelessness.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, we honor that, we validate that and at the same time, the chances of this eventually working are really high.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: And how can we stay in it mentally in order to focus on the things that are actually in our favor?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: We say where your attention goes, the energy flows, and we can also maybe not like the things that are not so much in our favor.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Right, if there's certain things that maybe we've done some IVF cycles and we tend not to make good embryos or there's some inefficiency, whatever it is like, we don't have to completely shun those things.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: But I think if we can actually say you know reasons for authentic hope through an evidence based approach, I think that really helps to give us some grounding and some science to stand on to say like it makes sense to keep going.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: If that's the case, right, and it gives us a little bit more reserve in the tank to be able to keep going, if that's the right thing for us because we know that there's reasons that hopefully this will work with time.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: We don't know exactly when is, but when we can focus on those things, it just helps us to stay the course and to keep the focus and to let that mental chatter, that negative self-doubt, that despair, that hopelessness that sometimes can overtake us.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: It just helps to keep it at bay when we can say, okay, well, with this many euploid embryos, this is my chance of success, all those things those are really helpful to hang our hat on Wonderful.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: So the eighth way that Love Science supports female physicians and professionals experiencing infertility is we help separate fact from fiction.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, with Dr Google, there are so many ways that we can find information.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: It's like in seconds.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I can Google any question and get any answer at my fingertips and I think that's helpful and it's heartful because I think you know, like I said, they let me lose in my mid thirties to finally take care of patients independently and when you know, even if you're like a cardiologist and you're trying to interpret the fertility data like it can be really overwhelming because as fertility specialists we are really far out on the medical tree right.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Like we've done OBGYN, we've done infertility, all those things.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: That is so far from the tree trunk of medicine.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of my clients are physicians and they say, gosh, I went to medical school, I should be able to interpret this data.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I should be able to direct my care better data.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I should be able to be able to direct my care better.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And part of what I do is I say let me take that burden from you, because this is my zone of genius, this is my wheelhouse.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Like if I had a cardiology question, I would go to you as a cardiologist and say help me figure out what medication to take, help me figure out if I need a procedure, like all those things that are on the cardiology branch of medicine.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: And this is why we all help each other, because we will all be patients at some point in time and our family members will be patients and all those things.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: We're a community, but I think that it can get so muddled.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: We can find a paper to prove anything and I think that it's not.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: There's biases in studies and there's conflicts of interest.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe the person who's selling something is the one who wrote the study, and so you have to look at that as well.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So the nice thing about me wearing two hats having a clinical practice of fertility medicine and also wearing my hat as a coach is I read the papers regularly.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: We have journal clubs with the fellows and the residents, I go to the national conferences, and so it really keeps me up on the data, keeps me asking the important questions and making sure that I have accountability so that I'm not like five to 10 years behind in the most recent literature.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So let me help you separate fact from fiction and then you can then figure out your situation with my guidance or the guidance of your REI, with accurate information and clarity.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: The ninth way that we help female physicians or professionals experiencing infertility at Love Science is we help to heal triggers and past traumas that may be affecting your fertility journey.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: So we all know that we have traumas.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: We have little t traumas, we have big t traumas and we sometimes unexpectedly get triggered, whether it's by a loved one or a piece of bad news we might receive at the fertility clinic.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It can be so darn stressful to just even go through life.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe if somebody in their life announces a pregnancy, that can be incredibly distressing, or say it's a holiday and we know we have to go to a Christmas gathering and our sister-in-law is there who just had a baby All these things can just be horrifyingly painful and I am sensitive to that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I understand it and as we go through the process at Love Science of feeling feelings and healing triggers and setting boundaries and all of that, we process that trauma and release it so that you get to decide do you go to that holiday gathering or do you not?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're healed enough that you can withstand that, or do you feel like the best choice for you is to stay at home and figure out what to say to your family?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: All those things are so relevant and pertinent and my goal is that you're not just going through life as this trigger minefield, kind of like a ping pong ball, figuring out what piece of information is gonna set you off on your next adventure.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: That is completely uncontrolled by you, but that you are the wise leader.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You get to decide what you do.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: You get to respond and not react when information comes.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You get to pause and process things and gain those tools of emotional processing, of emotional resilience, that maybe you haven't learned up until now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Right, these are skills that take a long time to develop, and sometimes even a good therapist.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love therapy, don't get me wrong, I'm obsessed with it but sometimes these things are not even taught in traditional therapy, and so that's.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: The beauty of coaching is that we can really heal triggers in real time and increase the resilient zone so that we're more grounded, we are coming home to ourselves and our bodies and we can figure out what we need in real time and articulate that Okay.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: So for the 10th way that Love Science supports female physicians and professionals experiencing infertility, we help you build healthier relationships, both with yourself, because that's our primary relationship and with your loved ones, and we help to foster connection and understanding.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So I think there are so many ways, and I have a whole other podcast episode that I'm going to air soon on how the fertility journey can mess with our own relationship with ourself.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Last week's was on relationships with other people, but I think that when we are off kilter, when we are out of alignment, when we know that we have certain values and we just are not living them, you know, I will tell you when I'm hungry or exhausted or frustrated, when I, when my gas tank is on empty, I am not the same person as when my gas tank is at least half full and I'm getting what I need Right, so I am more irritable.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I am not the same person as when my gas tank is at least half full and I'm getting what I need right, so I am more irritable.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I am more impatient.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: You know, if I'm at home and it's, you know, with my family, maybe I raise my voice.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I think that we express different parts of ourselves when our needs are getting met versus when they're not getting met, and over time that can really start to wear on relationships.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: If this is an intimate relationship you're navigating this process with an intimate partner the fertility journey can certainly drive a wedge in that relationship.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: It can affect physical intimacy, emotional intimacy, all the things blame, shame, you name it.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Go to episode four if you want more information about that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But I, like I said before, I really do believe that what coaching does is it helps.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: It's like the access point for how we can then up-level our whole experience of life.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And although the fertility journey is a chapter of life, it can be a very long chapter, it can be several chapters in a row and it can be incredibly painful and some relationships truly don't survive it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I see it sister or a parent.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: My goal is to give you the tools to be able to have those crucial conversations, to be able to sit with the discomfort and service of the ultimate growth of you and the relationship itself, and to figure out is this a relationship that serves you or is it not a relationship that serves you?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: If it does serve you, then let's give it 110%.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You know, let's build the tools to help you express yourself and your needs and your desires and your values and all those things.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: But if it doesn't serve you, then I can give you the tools to let it go as well.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So, building healthy relationships, both with yourself and with the important people in your life, your inner circle, that's one of my zones of genius.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I love to help people with that and I love to hear the wins, because I think sometimes, as we get comfortable with our own feelings, with our own desires, with our own uncertainty, then that's when we can be in more right relationship with other people, because they may have their own situations in their brain, they may have their own uncertainty, they may have their own feelings, they may have their own perspectives on it, and so, figuring out how to let other people be themselves, how to be fully ourselves, and where we can come together in that struggle and find some common ground, find some vulnerability, find some understanding.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm all about.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So I will put these top 10 in the show notes just for the sake of summaries, because I love lists and I love summaries.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: I do have a touch of OCD, but I've had a lot of really interested people recently through various channels, through social media, through personal contacts, who are like, hey, love and science is gaining traction.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I hear your support groups are filling up on Friday nights and your group coaching, your one-on-one coaching, is going amazingly well and people are graduating from their fertility specialists with beautiful heartbeats, where that never happened before.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: There's so much beautiful stuff going on, but what do you actually do at Love Science?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And so hopefully this episode clarified some of that and if any of this piqued your interest and made you say, hmm, I bet my life would be a lot better if I could do maybe skill number six or skill number nine or whatever it is, book a call with me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: It's 45 minutes usually.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: We go through what you've gone through, we go through what your maybe skill number six or skill number nine or whatever it is.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Book a call with me.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: You know it's 45 minutes.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Usually.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: We go through what you've gone through, we go through what your goals are, we figure out what your blocks are, maybe even get into some of the limiting beliefs, and I'm here to empower, I'm here to support you, I'm here to help you go through this process with confidence and compassion, and I think that is sorely lacking due to so many reasons.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I think the medical system is amazing in so many ways and I think, due to time constraints and other things, I think there just isn't quite the space for people that is necessary.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: So book a call with me, see how I can help.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I love you and I'll talk to you soon.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Bye.