Latest / An ASMR Practice / My journey with honesty
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Alright, as promised on the blog, I am sharing a
- 0:03Speaker 1: story about my journey with honesty. So, one second, let
- 0:11Speaker 1: me just fill the water. I gotta get the coffee going.
- 0:15Speaker 1: You just don't even understand what I'm going through.
- 0:17Speaker 2: You just don't even understand what I'm going through.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Okay.
- 0:25Speaker 3: So, where do I begin? Where does the honesty story begin?
- 0:29Speaker 3: I'll say this. I had a friend, and.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I.
- 0:34Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Let's just say my mother... My mother.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Warned me that this girl was a pathological liar. That's
- 0:42Speaker 1: what my mom said. My mom be saying a lot, though.
- 0:45Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I mean.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Well, at the same time, she also is not saying
- 0:50Speaker 3: very much. She is not reaching out so much. And
- 0:57Speaker 3: that's okay. I forgive her.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Um....
- 1:05Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:08Speaker 1: I think she's, like, a very active participant in, like,
- 1:11Speaker 1: the lives of her grandchildren.
- 1:12Speaker 3: You know, this is what, like, grandmas do.
- 1:14Speaker 1: They, like... They, like, try to make up for all
- 1:18Speaker 1: the mistakes they did.
- 1:19Speaker 3: I'm trying to... Hold on. I don't know why I'm
- 1:22Speaker 3: doing all this.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Ugh.
- 1:25Speaker 3: I gotta do laundry. Oh, my bad. They try to
- 1:28Speaker 3: make up.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Mothers try to make up for, like, all the stuff
- 1:31Speaker 1: they did wrong with their kids by, like, just.
- 1:34Speaker 3: doing a lot.
- 1:35Speaker 1: For their grandkids, so, you know, and at first it
- 1:38Speaker 1: was kind of taking me off, because I was like,
- 1:39Speaker 1: where was this energy?
- 1:41Speaker 3: Where was this energy, girl? Um, and, uh, I don't know. Ultimately,
- 1:48Speaker 3: I think I didn't really mind, like, being a.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Neglected child, like, personally, because, like, my house was the
- 1:58Speaker 1: party house, you know what I'm saying?
- 2:00Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't do anything too crazy, we didn't have, like,
- 2:02Speaker 3: a lot of money or a lot of space, but we.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Had pretty much freedom you know what I'm saying ooh okay.
- 2:14Speaker 3: I'm putting on a skirt my mom gave me see
- 2:18Speaker 3: my mom doesn't believe in like.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Returning things so she'll like buy something and then it's
- 2:21Speaker 1: like not her size but it ends up being my
- 2:23Speaker 1: size and so then I end up getting it she's
- 2:26Speaker 1: like not into returning things for whatever reason I think
- 2:30Speaker 1: it's just like it's just too much it's just too
- 2:33Speaker 1: much to do So now I have a cute little skirt.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I might wear this to the club later. I'm trying
- 2:43Speaker 1: to dance.
- 2:44Speaker 3: It's Friday. I'm trying to dance. I had dinner plans.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Bro canceled all my dinner plans.
- 2:49Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, dude. Well, no, no, no.
- 2:52Speaker 3: He's actually... I believe him.
- 2:54Speaker 1: I do believe him. I think he's in a lot
- 2:55Speaker 1: of pain. And....
- 2:59Speaker 3: Why would he lie? Like, why would he lie? I
- 3:02Speaker 3: trust this guy. I trust this guy with my life.
- 3:05Speaker 1: He's a.
- 3:07Speaker 3: He used to live in Salem. He used to live
- 3:10Speaker 3: in Salem. And so every time I've ever been to Salem,
- 3:13Speaker 3: I'm like hitting this guy up.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Like, where am I going?
- 3:15Speaker 3: Where should I go?
- 3:17Speaker 1: And Oh, funny story about this guy. I, the printer
- 3:22Speaker 1: at my mom's house was not working correctly. And I was,
- 3:26Speaker 1: I was printing out resumes during COVID to try to
- 3:30Speaker 1: get a job because I was taking a term off
- 3:33Speaker 1: of school. Because I was just, I was like, I
- 3:36Speaker 1: cannot do online school.
- 3:37Speaker 3: This is stupid.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Like, this is a waste of money. This is a
- 3:39Speaker 1: waste of time. And ultimately, I had enough credits from
- 3:42Speaker 1: high school that I was like, I'm going to get
- 3:44Speaker 1: this taken care of.
- 3:45Speaker 3: And I'm just going to be down a term. And
- 3:47Speaker 3: I'm going to graduate on time. And that's exactly what
- 3:49Speaker 3: I fucking did. That's exactly what I did, girl. So
- 3:53Speaker 3: I graduated with all my class, right? Took a turn
- 3:59Speaker 3: off during COVID.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I printed out my resume with my mom's shitty printer
- 4:02Speaker 1: that was running out of ink. And so it came out.
- 4:05Speaker 1: The font was in pink. Or I think I maybe
- 4:08Speaker 1: had to adjust it. Like I saw that there was
- 4:10Speaker 1: red ink. And so I was like, whatever.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Pink ink.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Pink ink. So I go to the certain penguin environment.
- 4:19Speaker 1: This place is very relevant to my family history, believe
- 4:24Speaker 1: it or not. They like cater everything we've ever done.
- 4:29Speaker 3: And, you know, some people I knew got engaged there.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, there's a certain candy bar I have
- 4:39Speaker 1: in the fridge that reminds me of someone.
- 4:44Speaker 3: And every time I see it, I'm like.
- 4:49Speaker 3: I will not be elaborating further. But I'm really excited
- 4:55Speaker 3: to eat it at one point. But I'm like, I
- 4:56Speaker 3: want to savor it.
- 4:59Speaker 2: Because it brings me joy every time I see it,
- 5:01Speaker 2: I'm like, mmm. It kind of reminds me of a
- 5:07Speaker 2: couple people, actually. Listen, it takes a lot to inspire
- 5:12Speaker 2: me these days. Just kidding, that's literally not even true.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Girls go to bars to get more candy bars.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Me?
- 5:23Speaker 3: I went to Florida. I went to Florida. I crashed,
- 5:29Speaker 3: I crashed a family, a family occasion. All right, this
- 5:32Speaker 3: was a story about honesty. Anyways, I gave this Salem
- 5:35Speaker 3: guy my freaking pink resume. And he took one look
- 5:39Speaker 3: at it and he was like, he was like, I'm
- 5:42Speaker 3: giving it to the owner. He's like, you're going to
- 5:45Speaker 3: work here, I promise. Something like that. Like, I just knew,
- 5:49Speaker 3: I just knew.
- 5:50Speaker 1: I knew by his face. Because at first I was
- 5:52Speaker 1: like feeling a little insecure. I was like, this is
- 5:53Speaker 1: kind of weird that I'm giving a pink resume. I
- 5:58Speaker 1: was like, sorry, guys, my printer's not, like, working. I
- 6:00Speaker 1: was like, but I have a lot of experience.
- 6:05Speaker 3: And also, it's like, dude, I was getting paid, like, nothing.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Anyways.
- 6:08Speaker 3: It was a good job, though. I really love those people.
- 6:18Speaker 1: Shout out.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Shout out, Jalen, if you're listening.
- 6:20Speaker 1: I know you're not. You're, like, super busy, girl. You're...
- 6:24Speaker 1: You're busy in the best freaking way. Dude, I'm following
- 6:27Speaker 1: this girl and like... Or this person.
- 6:30Speaker 3: I guess I don't know. I would say girl. They
- 6:34Speaker 3: called us the giggle girls. They called us the giggle girls.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Because we just... We could not help ourselves. We could
- 6:40Speaker 3: not help ourselves. We were just giggling non-stop.
- 6:44Speaker 1: And the boys were so pissed. Because they were trying
- 6:46Speaker 1: to be in a bad mood so fucking bad. They
- 6:48Speaker 1: were trying to be little grumpy heads. So freaking bad.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And I was like, and we were just, everything was funny.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Everything was funny. Everything was an innuendo. And we were
- 7:03Speaker 1: just giggling nonstop. And we were the giggle girls.
- 7:07Speaker 3: And get over it. How about that? I miss it.
- 7:12Speaker 3: I miss it. I love working in the kitchen.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I really do.
- 7:15Speaker 3: I was speaking to my old kitchen co-worker last night.
- 7:19Speaker 3: I love this guy.
- 7:22Speaker 1: I really love this guy a lot. He was like,
- 7:27Speaker 1: he was like, I want to listen to your podcast,
- 7:28Speaker 1: but it's making me download an app.
- 7:30Speaker 3: I was like, download the freaking app, dork. Like, what
- 7:33Speaker 3: do you want? I was like, it's available on all.
- 7:35Speaker 3: I listed off. I went to my email. I found
- 7:38Speaker 3: all the platforms. I was like, it's available on all
- 7:40Speaker 3: these platforms. You don't have any of these?
- 7:41Speaker 1: He's like, no.
- 7:42Speaker 3: I was like, dude, then download one. Like, I don't
- 7:45Speaker 3: know what to tell you. I was like, I'm not
- 7:48Speaker 3: forcing you to listen to it. But if you want
- 7:49Speaker 3: to listen to it, how hard is it to download
- 7:51Speaker 3: an app? Like, be so freaking for real. Okay, so
- 7:55Speaker 3: what was I even saying? Salem.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Honesty. Honesty.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Okay, so this relates to Montreal.
- 8:01Speaker 1: The first time I went to Montreal alone, okay, I
- 8:06Speaker 1: was dating this freaking guy. We were freaking long distance
- 8:10Speaker 1: and it freaking sucked. And it's kind of my fault.
- 8:14Speaker 1: I will say it's kind of my fault because he,
- 8:17Speaker 1: there was a girl, okay. who was the girlfriend.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Of his roommate at the time, okay? And I don't
- 8:24Speaker 3: remember her name. She had an Australian Shepherd. And I
- 8:30Speaker 3: really liked her dog.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And I think I was like, this guy was older than.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Me by kind of a lot.
- 8:39Speaker 1: And I.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Didn't want to date him.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Like I told him, I was like, I'm not trying
- 8:45Speaker 1: to date you. I was like, I'm going to college.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I don't have time for this. I'm not into dating,
- 8:53Speaker 1: to be honest. And, like, you know, like, I was
- 8:57Speaker 1: very upfront about the fact that I had, like, commitment
- 8:59Speaker 1: issues or whatever. And I was, and it's not even
- 9:03Speaker 1: that I had commitment issues. It's just, like, I'm not
- 9:04Speaker 1: trying to date a boy from Arkansas right now. Like,
- 9:06Speaker 1: I gotta go. I literally gotta go to Vermont. Like,
- 9:09Speaker 1: they're begging. They're literally begging and sending me so much money.
- 9:14Speaker 3: You wouldn't even believe how much money if I told you.
- 9:17Speaker 3: It's like a lot. It's like I could have bought
- 9:19Speaker 3: a house with that shit. But instead I have a degree.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Don't ask me what it's in.
- 9:26Speaker 1: I don't want to talk.
- 9:27Speaker 3: About it anymore. Depends on the resume I'm writing.
- 9:35Speaker 3: I
- 9:38Speaker 3: only include... I only say things that I did actually study.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Okay?
- 9:43Speaker 3: I studied a lot. It's complicated.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Um, but yeah, so I'm dating this older guy and
- 9:53Speaker 1: the girlfriend of his roommate.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Warned him, like they went out drinking and.
- 9:59Speaker 1: And she was like this girl is trouble and she's
- 10:03Speaker 1: gonna go away and she's gonna forget all about you
- 10:05Speaker 1: and she's gonna be gallivanting around with other dudes and
- 10:10Speaker 1: and he she tried to warn him and then he
- 10:11Speaker 1: comes to me wait he comes to me and he's crying.
- 10:22Speaker 3: She said that you're gonna forget all about me mind.
- 10:25Speaker 1: You how this relationship started is we were at the
- 10:28Speaker 1: freaking greek restaurant okay it was called i don't know
- 10:33Speaker 1: i can picture it in my head though i think
- 10:36Speaker 1: it's still there it's on college i think it's called
- 10:42Speaker 1: like little greek i think this might be what it's.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Called i'm not sure We went to the freaking Greek restaurant.
- 10:49Speaker 3: He was my ride. He was literally my ride.
- 10:53Speaker 1: You know, and... And, yeah, I mean, I guess if
- 10:58Speaker 1: I didn't want to date him, I probably shouldn't have
- 11:00Speaker 1: been going out to dinner with him. I think that's
- 11:01Speaker 1: probably the lesson that I've learned from this. Or when
- 11:06Speaker 1: he screamed at me, I should have fucking screamed back, actually.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Because he just starts.
- 11:11Speaker 1: He just, I mean, in my memory at least, He
- 11:16Speaker 1: immediately starts by screaming.
- 11:18Speaker 3: Like it didn't like build up to a scream. Maybe, maybe,
- 11:21Speaker 3: maybe it built up.
- 11:22Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Maybe he asked me. He's like, so you're really just
- 11:25Speaker 1: going to college? But then he's like screaming. He's screaming
- 11:28Speaker 1: in the Greek restaurant, dude.
- 11:31Speaker 3: He's like, you're just going to go to college and
- 11:34Speaker 3: forget all about me? It's like the first time.
- 11:35Speaker 1: And then he starts crying. And then it's the first
- 11:37Speaker 1: time I've ever seen a man cry. And I'm like,
- 11:40Speaker 1: I'm 18. I'm 18 and I need to go to
- 11:43Speaker 1: college so freaking bad, dude.
- 11:45Speaker 3: And I told you.
- 11:48Speaker 1: I literally freaking told you I didn't want to date you.
- 11:51Speaker 1: It was like one of the first things I said.
- 11:52Speaker 1: I said I'm not looking for anything serious right.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Now, guy. Oh my god. I was like a glaring
- 11:58Speaker 3: red flag. I was in high school.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I was just doing way too much. I was doing
- 12:10Speaker 1: simply way too much. I was, like, taking a college class.
- 12:14Speaker 1: I talked about this recently. I was taking a college
- 12:17Speaker 1: class to avoid having to take, like, a necessary credit
- 12:20Speaker 1: in my high school because I just didn't like the teacher.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I was also working a full-time job in addition to
- 12:25Speaker 1: taking a college class and being a high school student
- 12:28Speaker 1: to avoid having to interact with my mother at home
- 12:32Speaker 1: because she was, like, mad at me about some stuff.
- 12:35Speaker 3: It was, like, one of those things. She was like,
- 12:36Speaker 3: you're just like your father.
- 12:37Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm out of here. I'm literally
- 12:40Speaker 1: working at IHOP, like, I don't want to talk to you.
- 12:43Speaker 1: And then I was just, like, crashing whoever's house. Like,
- 12:49Speaker 1: you know. And, you know, I think it sort of became, like, yeah,
- 12:54Speaker 1: I guess I was crashing at this guy's house quite
- 12:57Speaker 1: a bit. And because my mom was just, like, she
- 13:02Speaker 1: was having an intense reaction to something that was just
- 13:04Speaker 1: simply not that serious.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Like, it just really wasn't it. And now I can
- 13:12Speaker 3: see she was probably grieving or whatever. But it's really
- 13:17Speaker 3: not that big of a deal. It's really, really not.
- 13:22Speaker 1: And it's like I was 18. I'm a freaking adult.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Let me suffer my consequences. This is my biggest beef
- 13:30Speaker 1: with parents. Natural consequences are so fucking important. People are
- 13:34Speaker 1: trying to prevent me from getting.
- 13:36Speaker 3: In trouble all the time. People are intervening. Don't get
- 13:39Speaker 3: in trouble. You don't want to get in trouble.
- 13:41Speaker 1: And I'm like, I need to be punished or I'm
- 13:45Speaker 1: never going to fucking learn.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I prefer to be praised. I
- 13:49Speaker 3: prefer to be praised. I get this a lot. And
- 13:52Speaker 3: look where we've come.
- 13:53Speaker 1: All right.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Praise is, you know, it's awesome.
- 14:01Speaker 1: And I don't know how to interact with people who
- 14:04Speaker 1: like haven't been praised a lot and as a result
- 14:07Speaker 1: have self-esteem issues.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Like I really don't. It makes me deeply uncomfortable. To
- 14:11Speaker 3: be around these people sometimes. And I'm sorry. If that's you.
- 14:14Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 14:16Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 14:17Speaker 1: It just. It makes me want to just be a
- 14:18Speaker 1: shell of a person. Because I'm just like. If I
- 14:21Speaker 1: talk about myself.
- 14:22Speaker 3: It's going to hurt you. Because you're going to. I
- 14:24Speaker 3: don't know.
- 14:25Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 14:25Speaker 3: It makes me uncomfortable. Fortunately. A lot of people are
- 14:29Speaker 3: pretty narcissistic these days.
- 14:31Speaker 1: And.
- 14:31Speaker 3: I'm rocking with that.
- 14:33Speaker 1: Um.
- 14:34Speaker 3: And so this guy. Uh. I'm a red flag. I
- 14:42Speaker 3: don't even want to tell you all the things that
- 14:44Speaker 3: I was doing. I'll say this. I'll say this. He
- 14:51Speaker 3: had just some loose pills on his bedside table.
- 14:57Speaker 1: And, you know, I.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Became familiar with pills for various reasons.
- 15:06Speaker 1: And... I looked at it from across the room, the pill,
- 15:11Speaker 1: and I guessed exactly what it was and the milligrams.
- 15:17Speaker 3: And he looked at me like horrified. He was like,
- 15:19Speaker 3: how did you know? I was like, don't worry about it. Literally,
- 15:24Speaker 3: don't worry about it.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Because I'm a freaking doctor or something. We got the
- 15:32Speaker 1: French press, baby. Hoping this will like silence my appetite
- 15:36Speaker 1: or something.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Cause I'm so hungry that I just can't even cook.
- 15:40Speaker 3: What the heck am I supposed to eat?
- 15:41Speaker 1: Ooh.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Yummy.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Little pumpkin treat. Little pumpkin treat.
- 15:55Speaker 4: Okay.
- 15:56Speaker 3: So I'm not drinking coffee on an empty stomach. I'm
- 15:58Speaker 3: getting a little pumpkin treat. I love these.
- 16:05Speaker 1: Shout out the food pantry. Everything else in the cabinet
- 16:10Speaker 1: freaking sucks right now. We have every Asian vinegar, powder.
- 16:17Speaker 1: We have all these stuff. I don't even know what
- 16:19Speaker 1: to do with them.
- 16:22Speaker 3: We have mac and cheese. We have ramen. We have soup. Honestly,
- 16:30Speaker 3: I might eat these. I combined some goji berries and
- 16:33Speaker 3: seeds into a bag. I might eat this. We got dates.
- 16:39Speaker 3: We got dates. I mean, there's some good stuff here.
- 16:42Speaker 3: I just like, I gotta figure it out. I'm not ready.
- 16:45Speaker 3: I'm not ready to cook. This is my biggest beef. Ooh, wait,
- 16:48Speaker 3: we might have like a fruit.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Oh yeah. We got fruit.
- 17:00Speaker 1: So yeah.
- 17:10Speaker 3: This guy's crying in the Greek restaurant. And I'm like, bruh.
- 17:18Speaker 3: And ultimately, I'm scanning the scene. I'm looking around. Everyone's
- 17:21Speaker 3: looking at me, like, scared.
- 17:25Speaker 1: I would say.
- 17:25Speaker 3: That's how I would guess. Like, he's giving school shooter vibes.
- 17:30Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
- 17:32Speaker 3: He's being extremely testy. And I'm, like, an anorexic teenager.
- 17:37Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't know what I'm supposed to
- 17:39Speaker 3: do about this. So I just... And then, you know,
- 17:46Speaker 3: I look around the restaurant. Everybody's scared. I'm like, oh.
- 17:50Speaker 1: No.
- 17:50Speaker 3: And I look outside and I'm like, shit. I drove
- 17:52Speaker 3: here with him. You know, I'm pretty sure.
- 18:01Speaker 3: I don't know. My brother might have still been in town.
- 18:03Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 18:05Speaker 3: I want to say my brother was moved away. He
- 18:09Speaker 3: flew the freaking coop.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Um....
- 18:14Speaker 3: For good reason.
- 18:16Speaker 1: And I think it was a very good decision actually.
- 18:18Speaker 1: And my mom. I'm not on really like speaking terms
- 18:25Speaker 1: with my mom at this point.
- 18:26Speaker 3: And I don't really have. I probably could have called
- 18:28Speaker 3: like an aunt or an uncle or something. But I didn't.
- 18:36Speaker 3: I'm looking around. I'm trying to make a fast decision. Okay.
- 18:39Speaker 1: And I'm like.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Okay, so I just agreed. I was like, listen, we
- 18:42Speaker 3: can date. We can date. We can do long distance, whatever.
- 18:46Speaker 3: You know, and I probably said it kind of like that,
- 18:48Speaker 3: you know? Just like, whatever. Like, I wasn't like, oh,
- 18:54Speaker 3: I'm so happy to date you. It was like, yeah, sure, dude.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Just calm down.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Like, you're scaring the hoes right now. Like, in the
- 19:01Speaker 1: Greek restaurant. Why are you scaring the Greek restaurant hoes
- 19:04Speaker 1: right now? I'm like making eye contact with the freaking.
- 19:10Speaker 3: The freaking front desk guy. And he's like. He's like scared.
- 19:17Speaker 3: And then like all the couples that are there.
- 19:19Speaker 1: All just scared. Which by the way I'm cutting right
- 19:23Speaker 1: now with a knife.
- 19:24Speaker 3: And every time like a man in a restaurant sees
- 19:26Speaker 3: me cutting. They're like this is not how you cut girl.
- 19:30Speaker 1: You're going to cut yourself. Literally shut up. Literally shut up.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I'm doing just fine. I don't even think I've ever
- 19:38Speaker 1: cut myself. In a kitchen environment with a knife. I
- 19:43Speaker 1: have I have cheese.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Grated my finger. Really bad ones. Really really bad. Like.
- 19:52Speaker 3: It took a whole chunk out of my thingy. That
- 19:56Speaker 3: was not good.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Um.
- 20:00Speaker 3: But ultimately. This shit grows back. It's not a big deal.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Maybe I did cut myself once. I feel like with like.
- 20:08Speaker 1: Various kinds of like. alternative cutting tools is usually how
- 20:13Speaker 1: I get cut. I'm pretty good at using a knife.
- 20:19Speaker 1: The men, the fucking men in the kitchen love to be, like,
- 20:21Speaker 1: worried about me. I'm like, get out of here, dude.
- 20:25Speaker 3: Literally, get out of here. That's probably not what I say.
- 20:28Speaker 3: I probably am like, eh, show me. I'm like, let's
- 20:33Speaker 3: waste time. Show me.
- 20:40Speaker 1: And so, yeah.
- 20:44Speaker 3: Honesty.
- 20:47Speaker 1: And so, my mother planted seeds of pathological lying into
- 20:50Speaker 1: my head. Because I had my best friend, and she's, like,
- 20:53Speaker 1: talking shit about my best friend. Like, she's a pathological liar.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's my best friend.
- 20:56Speaker 3: Like, if she's a pathological liar, so am I. Like,
- 21:03Speaker 3: and so then, my mom tells me this. And I'm
- 21:05Speaker 3: immediately Googling pathological liar.
- 21:07Speaker 1: And I'm immediately kind of like, I think I understand
- 21:12Speaker 1: why someone would do this. You know?
- 21:17Speaker 3: Like.
- 21:18Speaker 1: And it just opened... It opened my universe. It opened
- 21:21Speaker 1: my universe quite a lot. And I was like pathologic... Lying.
- 21:26Speaker 4: Lying.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Like they teach you. Right?
- 21:32Speaker 4: It's like.
- 21:33Speaker 3: One of the main things you're not supposed to do.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Right? But....
- 21:40Speaker 3: That's just what they say. Like, that's literally just what
- 21:43Speaker 3: they say.
- 21:43Speaker 1: And who are they, you might ask? People who want
- 21:53Speaker 1: you to be extremely, like, submissive and controllable, I would say.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Like, the system.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Right?
- 22:05Speaker 3: People trying to control you. That's what they say. They're like,
- 22:07Speaker 3: don't lie.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Don't lie. Don't lie. Because if you lie, then it's
- 22:12Speaker 1: harder for them to.
- 22:15Speaker 3: Control you. I would say. Like your parents. They're like,
- 22:23Speaker 3: don't lie.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Because, like, they want to know what's going on. But
- 22:26Speaker 1: if they know what's going on, they might intervene. So,
- 22:28Speaker 1: you know, there's pros and cons. And they also might
- 22:37Speaker 1: not intervene. You might tell them and they might not care. Unfortunately,
- 22:42Speaker 1: they might be just really busy at work. It would
- 22:47Speaker 1: seem a lot of parents are like this. I don't know,
- 22:53Speaker 1: maybe not. Maybe that's a unique experience. And so I
- 23:05Speaker 1: just didn't really care so much about the truth. And okay,
- 23:07Speaker 1: so there's another example of like this time. In, I
- 23:11Speaker 1: don't know, I think it was middle school, which like
- 23:13Speaker 1: adds to the absurdity of it all. It's like, someone
- 23:18Speaker 1: came up to me and they were like, I heard
- 23:19Speaker 1: you're doing crack. Mind you, I'm like a three-sport athlete.
- 23:26Speaker 3: At the time.
- 23:26Speaker 1: I have straight A's.
- 23:33Speaker 3: And so I looked at this person, I'm like, yeah,
- 23:35Speaker 3: I do crack, whatever, I don't even care. Y'all are
- 23:39Speaker 3: so stupid.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Like, why are y'all even saying this? And so.
- 23:43Speaker 3: That's sort of.
- 23:48Speaker 1: My take. It's like....
- 23:54Speaker 3: Cause what?
- 23:54Speaker 1: I'm supposed to defend myself against the crack allegations? Really?
- 23:58Speaker 3: I was, like, 12. I was a three-sport athlete. Can anybody, like,
- 24:03Speaker 3: leave me alone? Like....
- 24:15Speaker 1: Ow. And so....
- 24:26Speaker 3: They're leaving me alone actually quite good. I think that's
- 24:28Speaker 3: why I coughed. Because actually I think people are letting
- 24:31Speaker 3: me cook in a big way.
- 24:32Speaker 1: Wait.
- 24:41Speaker 3: No more apple, it's coffee time. You can smell the.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Cream.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Just in case, I'm not reading shit. So yeah, I
- 25:03Speaker 3: think I didn't really care about honesty.
- 25:07Speaker 1: And so I got caught in some lies with this
- 25:10Speaker 1: partner of mine. You know, he, like, screamed at me
- 25:12Speaker 1: at the Greek restaurant, so now we're dating. And I
- 25:17Speaker 1: probably should have, like, once we got back, I probably
- 25:19Speaker 1: should have been like, hey, like, I only said that
- 25:21Speaker 1: because I was scared for my.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Life and I just didn't really have a ride home. But,
- 25:26Speaker 3: you know, that doesn't make me look extremely well.
- 25:28Speaker 1: And ultimately, I was like, because it was like he softened.
- 25:32Speaker 1: I agreed to be his girlfriend and it was like everything,
- 25:34Speaker 1: he calmed down. You know, it....
- 25:38Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, maybe.
- 25:41Speaker 3: I was like, why not try? We could try. This
- 25:45Speaker 3: might be my husband.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Who knows?
- 25:47Speaker 3: He was handsome. I mean, I liked his beard a lot.
- 25:53Speaker 3: He had a really great beard. And, um, just one
- 26:02Speaker 3: more apple. Don't even worry about it. Where am I
- 26:06Speaker 3: going to sit?
- 26:06Speaker 1: I think I'm going to go outside. Carlos has just vanished. He's, like,
- 26:17Speaker 1: just crying. As soon as he hears me stir in
- 26:21Speaker 1: the morning, he's, like, just crying. He's like, I need
- 26:22Speaker 1: to go outside, mother. And I'm just like, can I
- 26:25Speaker 1: have a second? Oh, my God. This is why I
- 26:34Speaker 1: can't have kids, dude. They're going to be crying in
- 26:36Speaker 1: the night. I'm going to be, like, freaking out in
- 26:40Speaker 1: a big way. Um, and so, yeah, I don't remember
- 26:54Speaker 1: what I just said, but basically, I just didn't really
- 26:57Speaker 1: care about honesty all that much, you know, and so, flash,
- 27:02Speaker 1: fast forward to long weekend, my first long weekend at college,
- 27:07Speaker 1: I've already been to Montreal once, but I'm going back,
- 27:09Speaker 1: I'm going back, because I just love it, I love
- 27:12Speaker 1: it there, I'm obsessed. I really do dang I really
- 27:19Speaker 1: want to go back it's just so I don't know
- 27:27Speaker 1: I mean I've been so many times at this point
- 27:29Speaker 1: with like so many different people like okay but this
- 27:33Speaker 1: was the time I went alone and I literally got
- 27:37Speaker 1: offered to carpool with some girls from my college but
- 27:41Speaker 1: I I was I was being way too speedy about
- 27:44Speaker 1: my plans and I ended up booking a bus ticket
- 27:48Speaker 1: And so then I was like, I was like, OK,
- 27:50Speaker 1: I at least I was like, listen, girls, I really
- 27:52Speaker 1: I think I need the experience of taking the bus
- 27:55Speaker 1: over the border. And I was like, I will probably
- 28:02Speaker 1: come back to campus with y'all. And I did. And
- 28:04Speaker 1: we listened to the Lord album. I want to say
- 28:08Speaker 1: I want to say it was melodrama. I could be wrong.
- 28:13Speaker 1: We listened to a Lorde album, and it was life-changing.
- 28:16Speaker 1: And I was so exhausted, because I was just up
- 28:19Speaker 1: to no good the entire time I was there. I mean,
- 28:22Speaker 1: it really wasn't that bad. I think my first trip
- 28:24Speaker 1: was way more devious. Way more. Carlos! I just heard him, like,
- 28:33Speaker 1: meow really loud, as if he's in pain. Carlos! Carlos!
- 28:44Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. This is rare. This is rare that
- 28:47Speaker 1: this happens. I might have to go investigate. Hope he's
- 28:53Speaker 1: not hurt. God. Oh my gosh. That is not my cat.
- 29:02Speaker 3: That's a different cat.
- 29:03Speaker 1: They better not have got my fucking cat.
- 29:08Speaker 3: Carlos!
- 29:09Speaker 1: That's probably the cat that took his eye out.
- 29:16Speaker 3: There's a bunch of cats.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Oh, there he is.
- 29:21Speaker 4: Carlos!
- 29:24Speaker 1: Come here! Carlito! Bandito! I scared your enemy away. I
- 29:42Speaker 1: used to fucking throw rocks at this cat because it
- 29:44Speaker 1: was always harassing my cat. It would be, like, on sight.
- 29:47Speaker 1: This cat would see my cat and he would, like, run.
- 29:50Speaker 1: And I saw it once and I started throwing rocks
- 29:52Speaker 1: at the motherfucker. I was like, get out of here.
- 29:54Speaker 4: That's my sign.
- 29:55Speaker 1: That's my literal sign. Um....
- 30:03Speaker 4: Ah.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Hi. Were you getting stalked? Ugh. That cat is very large. Aw.
- 30:22Speaker 1: He's laying down. He's having concrete time now. Beautiful fall day. Okay,
- 30:29Speaker 1: so I'm in Montreal. I'm taking the bus because I've
- 30:32Speaker 1: already booked the ticket. The girlies are like, you should
- 30:36Speaker 1: drive with us. I was like, no girls, I got
- 30:38Speaker 1: to take the bus. I got to have this experience.
- 30:40Speaker 1: And so I have to take a different bus, like
- 30:45Speaker 1: a shuttle to freaking Manchester, Vermont. And there's like this
- 30:49Speaker 1: diner that I like chilled in for a long time.
- 30:53Speaker 1: I was like just reading my book and writing and
- 30:57Speaker 1: Because I was looking forward to just like reading and writing,
- 30:59Speaker 1: like using that time. Because on a bus, I feel
- 31:02Speaker 1: like you have a lot of space, you know, usually.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Depends where you are. I mean, in Vermont, like not
- 31:09Speaker 1: a lot of people are on the bus. I'm pretty
- 31:10Speaker 1: sure I was like one of like three. And so
- 31:19Speaker 1: I had found this book. It was like on display.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Somebody curated this. it was on display at the library,
- 31:24Speaker 1: and it spoke to me, and it was, I have
- 31:26Speaker 1: no idea what it's called, but it was about honesty,
- 31:30Speaker 1: and I saw it, and I was like, you know, because, yeah,
- 31:33Speaker 1: I got caught in a bunch of lies with my partner, right,
- 31:36Speaker 1: and like, my ex-partner, and he was just like, always
- 31:43Speaker 1: calling me a liar, and my mom was always calling
- 31:45Speaker 1: me a liar, and my mom was always calling my
- 31:47Speaker 1: friends liars, and it's like, what the actual heck, guys, like,
- 31:51Speaker 1: How am I supposed to believe myself if nobody believes me?
- 31:55Speaker 1: And I think that's the whole point. I think that's
- 31:56Speaker 1: the whole point of, like, what we do to young
- 31:59Speaker 1: girls is just, like, just perpetually trying to make them
- 32:03Speaker 1: not believe themselves and not believe in themselves and just
- 32:05Speaker 1: trying to make them as insecure as possible so that they, like,
- 32:10Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Why are we doing that, guys?
- 32:13Speaker 1: Can we stop? Let's do better, guys. Oh, my God. Ugh.
- 32:21Speaker 1: And so I found this book on Odyssey. It was
- 32:25Speaker 1: on the table end at the library at my college.
- 32:29Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, somebody curated this. I took it.
- 32:34Speaker 1: I checked it out. This was the book I had
- 32:39Speaker 1: for my second trip to Montreal, which I was traveling
- 32:42Speaker 1: to Montreal alone on the bus. And I remember I
- 32:49Speaker 1: had to wait at the freaking diner for, like, way
- 32:51Speaker 1: too long. Because it just, the bus didn't really make sense. Like,
- 32:55Speaker 1: they don't really have a lot of buses. There's just
- 32:57Speaker 1: not a lot of people using the buses. Or there
- 32:59Speaker 1: wasn't at the time. And so it's, like, I was,
- 33:03Speaker 1: I knew going into it, I was, like, I'm going
- 33:05Speaker 1: to have to chill at this freaking cafe for, like,
- 33:08Speaker 1: six hours or something. And ultimately, I was, like, whatever. Um...
- 33:14Speaker 1: I don't even know if you'd call it a cafe.
- 33:15Speaker 1: It's kind of like just a restaurant. It's like an
- 33:16Speaker 1: American restaurant.
- 33:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 33:21Speaker 1: And so I'm reading this book for hours about honesty
- 33:24Speaker 1: and it clicked. It clicked to me at some point.
- 33:27Speaker 1: I like something about it convinced me. I was like, OK,
- 33:30Speaker 1: maybe honesty serves a purpose. Right. And I texted my partner.
- 33:38Speaker 1: I was like, you'll never believe this. I think I
- 33:40Speaker 1: just got convinced that honesty is valid. And how do
- 33:47Speaker 1: you think he responded to that? Audience, how do you
- 33:51Speaker 1: think he responded to that? Let me tell you, wasn't good,
- 33:54Speaker 1: wasn't nice. He freaked out. He absolutely freaked out. He's like,
- 33:57Speaker 1: why do you have to read a book? I've been
- 33:58Speaker 1: telling you this. And I'm like, bro. You're not convincing
- 34:06Speaker 1: to me. I don't know what to tell you. You
- 34:10Speaker 1: low-key manipulated me into this relationship, kind of. You yelled
- 34:13Speaker 1: at me in public and publicly humiliated me into this relationship.
- 34:19Speaker 1: After I told you repeatedly I didn't want to be
- 34:21Speaker 1: in a relationship, you're, like, way older than me. Why
- 34:25Speaker 1: are you trying to date an 18-year-old? This is kind
- 34:27Speaker 1: of sus. And it's not only that. Like, I met
- 34:33Speaker 1: his family. And his family was fine. He had an
- 34:36Speaker 1: issue with them, but I... At the time, I think
- 34:39Speaker 1: it might be better now, perhaps. I hope. I should
- 34:47Speaker 1: have put honey in my coffee. Which, that's funny. I
- 34:50Speaker 1: think he was actually the one who taught me about
- 34:51Speaker 1: the honey in the coffee. And at the time, I
- 34:54Speaker 1: was like, no, girl, I'm anorexic. Please do not be
- 34:56Speaker 1: putting real sugar in my coffee. But now I'm like, actually, this... Alright.
- 35:00Speaker 1: We're gonna pour some honey out for my ex.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Because I do forgive him.
- 35:07Speaker 1: I think he must have been extremely troubled to be
- 35:10Speaker 1: begging someone to, like, be.
- 35:11Speaker 3: In a relationship with him. Like, that's pretty, like, not normal.
- 35:16Speaker 3: And also to be dating someone, like, that much younger than.
- 35:19Speaker 1: You, like... And it's not just that he was dating,
- 35:26Speaker 1: because it's like, I was pretty, like.
- 35:29Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not even going to say all that.
- 35:31Speaker 1: It wasn't the first time he had done it. and
- 35:34Speaker 1: I didn't ask for this information and he gave it
- 35:36Speaker 1: willingly so whatever I liked his beard that's all I
- 35:45Speaker 1: can say I liked.
- 35:47Speaker 3: His beard I remember one of the first things I
- 35:53Speaker 3: said to him this is kind of problematic.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Because I think he was probably like being insecure or.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Something I was like, no, dude, you're handsome. I was like,
- 36:07Speaker 3: you got like a racially ambiguous kind of thing that
- 36:10Speaker 3: I like. I was like, what are you? I can't tell.
- 36:13Speaker 3: Where are you from? He was like, I'm from here.
- 36:18Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay. I was like, but what
- 36:23Speaker 3: are you?
- 36:26Speaker 1: Which is probably problematic. Oh my gosh, sue me, guys.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Literally sue me. DEI is on my case right now.
- 36:37Speaker 1: God forbid I like a freaking beard. But, yeah, I
- 36:45Speaker 1: don't know.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Because I think I was.
- 36:47Speaker 1: I was honestly probably just looking at him trying to, like,
- 36:49Speaker 1: do the math. I was, like, doing the calculations, like,
- 36:51Speaker 1: what is this guy? I was 18. Like, forgive me. Oh,
- 36:56Speaker 1: my gosh. I don't think I had ever... Okay, I
- 37:01Speaker 1: gotta stop talking about this. It's just gonna get worse.
- 37:08Speaker 1: I know what he is now. I figured it out.
- 37:12Speaker 1: It should have been obvious, but I didn't know anything
- 37:14Speaker 1: about anything at the time. Like, it should have been obvious.
- 37:17Speaker 1: And also, I should have just, like, Googled his name.
- 37:20Speaker 1: This is a skill my aunt taught me later. Because
- 37:25Speaker 1: there was a certain professor. I was on, like, a
- 37:27Speaker 1: Zoom call at her house with a certain professor. Well,
- 37:31Speaker 1: there were two examples of this. And she'd be, like,
- 37:36Speaker 1: she'd be, like, analyzing their voice. Like, what is this
- 37:39Speaker 1: voice from? And I remember one of the professors, she
- 37:43Speaker 1: had me Google the, like, name origin. And the other one,
- 37:50Speaker 1: I told her the name, and she was like, oh,
- 37:51Speaker 1: I know what that is. I think it's okay to, like,
- 38:00Speaker 1: be curious about someone's freaking origins i i mean come
- 38:04Speaker 1: on guys it's our literal names like our names are
- 38:07Speaker 1: usually like kind of indicative of our origins and like
- 38:11Speaker 1: i mean my name is a little tricky because my
- 38:13Speaker 1: dad was freaking adopted very young and so he doesn't
- 38:16Speaker 1: have the name of like his blood family but i
- 38:21Speaker 1: mean he was adopted by a kind of blood is
- 38:24Speaker 1: my understanding But anyways, honesty. So I read the book.
- 38:30Speaker 1: I was feeling so proud. It was like a revolutionary
- 38:33Speaker 1: moment in my psyche where I was like, oh, maybe
- 38:37Speaker 1: I should be honest. I was like, OK, OK, OK.
- 38:40Speaker 1: I see what he's saying. I see why he's always
- 38:43Speaker 1: on my goddamn case about this. And but then he
- 38:49Speaker 1: reacted like extremely negatively. And he was basically calling me evil.
- 38:54Speaker 1: He was like, the fact that you had to read
- 38:55Speaker 1: a book to learn the value of honesty is like
- 38:57Speaker 1: really reflective of like, you are a bad person. And
- 39:00Speaker 1: I was like, what? I was like, but I read
- 39:05Speaker 1: the book. Like I literally did the read. I, I
- 39:08Speaker 1: understood that we were not connecting on this point. I
- 39:11Speaker 1: saw a book that was related to the topic. I
- 39:14Speaker 1: checked it out from the library. I dragged it to
- 39:16Speaker 1: freaking Manchester. And like, I'm sitting in this cafe. I'm
- 39:21Speaker 1: reading this freaking book for hours trying to resolve this
- 39:23Speaker 1: issue in this freaking relationship that I didn't even want.
- 39:28Speaker 1: And he's like, you're a bad person because you had
- 39:30Speaker 1: to read a.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Book what.
- 39:34Speaker 1: What you guys and so I recently I just like
- 39:41Speaker 1: published on my blog if anybody even freaking cares um
- 39:47Speaker 1: it's it's at sapphire s-a-f-f-i-r-e wait no that's no it's
- 39:56Speaker 1: at saffy duck okay people used to call me faffy
- 40:01Speaker 1: my instagram used to be faffy duck okay don't ask
- 40:04Speaker 1: me why i i'm not sure i.
- 40:07Speaker 5: Don't know where i don't i don't know who came
- 40:09Speaker 5: actually i think i do know who came up with
- 40:11Speaker 5: it but we don't speak anymore so he's not getting
- 40:14Speaker 5: a shout out i'm not sure But it's at SaffyDuck
- 40:19Speaker 5: on freaking Substack, guys. And, you know, I'm going through
- 40:24Speaker 5: my old files, trying to figure out, like, do I
- 40:28Speaker 5: want to, like, bring back any of this stuff?
- 40:31Speaker 1: And honestly, I like this one. It's called Honesty is
- 40:34Speaker 1: for Liars and Manipulators. And I do genuinely believe that
- 40:36Speaker 1: because who are you, as an individual, to be questioning
- 40:43Speaker 1: the level of somebody's honesty? Like, if you don't believe it, say,
- 40:48Speaker 1: I don't believe you. Say that. Don't say you're lying.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Because that's just simply not true. Like, I'm not lying.
- 40:58Speaker 1: I'm telling my version of the truth. Am I allowed
- 41:01Speaker 1: to have a version? Am I allowed to have a
- 41:02Speaker 1: literal voice? Does anybody fucking want to let me live
- 41:05Speaker 1: my goddamn life? Like, I don't see truth like you do.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Who are you? Get out of here. and it's really
- 41:18Speaker 1: ticking me off and this is just like a it's
- 41:20Speaker 1: a it's a mode of control it's a mode of
- 41:23Speaker 1: subjugation and control to be like there is one truth
- 41:28Speaker 1: and there's one way to be honest no no and
- 41:32Speaker 1: this has been used against me so many times where
- 41:34Speaker 1: people are like you're not authentic enough you're not honest
- 41:38Speaker 1: enough you're not like you're not putting everything on display
- 41:43Speaker 1: and I'm like sad about this it's like if I'm
- 41:45Speaker 1: not putting everything on display it's probably because I don't
- 41:48Speaker 1: like you and I don't trust you or like you're
- 41:51Speaker 1: not asking good enough questions and it's like why am
- 41:54Speaker 1: I just giving you things for free why am I
- 41:57Speaker 1: giving you things for free like just ask just literally
- 42:00Speaker 1: ask ask me anything and I some questions I don't
- 42:05Speaker 1: like so much Ideally, don't ask me how I'm doing
- 42:09Speaker 1: because I don't want to think about it. Ask me,
- 42:14Speaker 1: you know, something a little more specific would be helpful.
- 42:16Speaker 1: I mean, how are you? Sometimes, listen, I'll respond in
- 42:20Speaker 1: a way. I don't think it's going to satisfy you
- 42:22Speaker 1: how I'm going to respond because I don't like the question.
- 42:24Speaker 1: I really don't. And I appreciate that you are like
- 42:29Speaker 1: at least performing to care. Like, thank you. But it's
- 42:32Speaker 1: just like it feels like a performance a little bit
- 42:35Speaker 1: because it's like, This is a very like cliche.
- 42:37Speaker 4: Kind of.
- 42:38Speaker 1: How are you? Okay. And it's like. I'm not trying
- 42:41Speaker 1: to do like deep talk. But I just think there's
- 42:43Speaker 1: like other. I just think there's other avenues here. And.
- 42:47Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't think about it.
- 42:53Speaker 1: In some context. I don't want to think about how
- 42:55Speaker 1: I'm doing. Because sometimes it's not that good. Sometimes I'm
- 42:59Speaker 1: not doing that good. Particularly like. never mind okay this
- 43:07Speaker 1: is getting highly specific um I forgive everybody who's ever
- 43:13Speaker 1: asked me how I'm doing okay it's just it's hard
- 43:18Speaker 1: it's hard in some context it's hard to like leave
- 43:24Speaker 1: where I'm like what I'm doing to like then enter
- 43:28Speaker 1: my body because it's a very like deep question for
- 43:30Speaker 1: me how are you and it's like for me it's
- 43:33Speaker 1: like I want to go all the way into my
- 43:34Speaker 1: body and it's like how am I there's so many
- 43:39Speaker 1: layers there's so many layers you just wouldn't even believe
- 43:41Speaker 1: how many layers there are and it's just and so
- 43:47Speaker 1: this is like a way in which I would say
- 43:49Speaker 1: that everybody lies kind of constantly is when people are
- 43:52Speaker 1: like oh I'm good yeah yeah are you good really
- 43:56Speaker 1: I doubt it I freaking doubt it who's doing good
- 44:05Speaker 1: Like all around, like all the layers are looking good. Really?
- 44:11Speaker 1: You're not stressed. You're not sleepy. You're just, you're just
- 44:13Speaker 1: doing really good. All your relationships are like thriving. You're
- 44:18Speaker 1: not like at all politically or like environmentally concerned at all. Really?
- 44:23Speaker 1: All your relationships are doing good. I struggle to believe this.
- 44:26Speaker 1: I really struggle to believe this in a really big way.
- 44:32Speaker 1: I struggle to believe that your sleep is, like, undisturbed
- 44:35Speaker 1: at all. I struggle to believe that, you know, you're
- 44:40Speaker 1: not having any kind of, like, allergies. Or, you know,
- 44:45Speaker 1: I mean, there's, like, hella pollutants, guys. There's so many pollutants.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And I think, like, genuinely, my understanding is that oxygen,
- 44:55Speaker 1: even oxygen, this thing we need, is, like, slowly killing us. Like,
- 44:58Speaker 1: oxidative stress... Even the oxygen is killing us, guys. I just,
- 45:03Speaker 1: you're doing good all around. You're lying. And see, this,
- 45:08Speaker 1: but this is not my, this is not my freaking
- 45:10Speaker 1: point to ponder, if I'm honest. Like, this is me
- 45:15Speaker 1: showing you what you sound like when you're like, honesty
- 45:18Speaker 1: is super important. It's like, there are layers to this.
- 45:24Speaker 1: There are definitely layers to this. And it's not that simple.
- 45:29Speaker 1: And I think it's extremely manipulative. Like, if someone, this is, like,
- 45:34Speaker 1: a new kind of pointer I have. Like, if someone is, like,
- 45:38Speaker 1: touting a value of honesty, it's, like, their number one value,
- 45:43Speaker 1: I'm out of here. I'm out of here. You're a
- 45:45Speaker 1: manipulative person. You're an excessively demanding and manipulative person, for sure.
- 45:51Speaker 1: And that's all I have to say. I just, I don't,
- 45:57Speaker 1: it cannot be that deep. Like, I think some... And
- 46:06Speaker 1: I'm not saying we should all go around lying on purpose.
- 46:11Speaker 1: I'm just saying the truth is complicated and there are
- 46:13Speaker 1: many ways to express yourself. That's what I'm saying. And... Like...
- 46:23Speaker 1: And I understand that most people probably get this value
- 46:25Speaker 1: of honesty from their parents. You know, I don't think
- 46:28Speaker 1: that they necessarily chose it. And so... And that's the
- 46:32Speaker 1: thing is, like, there's got to be something. There's got
- 46:35Speaker 1: to be something a little more prioritizable than honesty. Like,
- 46:39Speaker 1: come on. Can we have fun? Are we the gosh
- 46:44Speaker 1: darn jury in every moment? Can we not be the jury?
- 46:47Speaker 1: Can we just, like, be cheerleaders? Or, like, can we
- 46:51Speaker 1: be dancers? Or, like, painters? Artists? Can we do something fun? Comedians?
- 46:59Speaker 1: Where are my comedians at? It's like, no, we have
- 47:07Speaker 1: to be really, really honest and we have to, like,
- 47:10Speaker 1: accuse people of not being honest when we don't believe.
- 47:12Speaker 1: Just say, I don't believe you. I'm not believing this. See,
- 47:21Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person, too, where sometimes I'm not
- 47:23Speaker 1: believing someone and I'm, but I'm sitting on it. You know?
- 47:38Speaker 1: I'm kind of letting them cook. Because even if they
- 47:41Speaker 1: are telling me a fictitious tale, I want to see
- 47:46Speaker 1: where it ends up. God forbid. And then, yeah, there's
- 47:52Speaker 1: a point. There's definitely a point where I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Back up.
- 47:58Speaker 1: But I think, let people cook. Let people... That sounds bad.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Let people cook, though. You gotta let You gotta let
- 48:07Speaker 1: the soup simmer, okay? You literally gotta let the soup simmer. And...
- 48:19Speaker 1: I just don't think it's that deep. I think we
- 48:33Speaker 1: should be honest about our sufferings. So it's like, yeah,
- 48:40Speaker 1: everybody's going around like, yeah, I'm doing good.
- 48:45Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing good. How are you? Oh, I'm good.
- 48:55Speaker 1: And there's benefit to that. In some ways, it's like, yeah,
- 48:59Speaker 1: maybe we just need to keep moving forward. And in
- 49:03Speaker 1: another way, like, I think we would all feel less
- 49:08Speaker 1: alone if we admitted when we're suffering like when we're
- 49:14Speaker 1: exhausted and when we're like kind of low-key freaking out
- 49:17Speaker 1: like like just not giving a default like scripted.
- 49:26Speaker 4: Response which I think it's okay I think it's.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Definitely forgivable I'm definitely not mad at people who do it.
- 49:41Speaker 1: That would be kind of silly. I would spend my
- 49:43Speaker 1: whole life being mad.
- 49:44Speaker 3: I would be mad constantly. I'd spend a lot of
- 49:51Speaker 3: my life being mad. Because I was like holding people
- 49:54Speaker 3: to the standard I was holding myself to. And I
- 49:56Speaker 3: was like, nobody's meeting this gosh darn standard.
- 49:58Speaker 1: And not even me. And honesty wasn't even involved.
- 50:09Speaker 3: You know, I think I might be the most honest
- 50:10Speaker 3: person in existence. Okay, maybe not, maybe not. I don't
- 50:22Speaker 3: know how you would quantify that, but I don't want
- 50:24Speaker 3: to know.
- 50:25Speaker 1: I don't want to know. Anyway, anyways. I think I
- 50:31Speaker 1: have to go find something to do out in the world.
- 50:34Speaker 1: I have a couple ideas. I really, I really want
- 50:43Speaker 1: to go out.
- 50:45Speaker 3: I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.
- 50:50Speaker 1: New Orleans really like charged me. Now I'm like, I
- 50:58Speaker 1: want to go see my city. I want to go
- 51:00Speaker 1: see my city, girl.
- 51:20Speaker 3: Zero gravity.
- 51:25Speaker 1: Grandma sent us this card. It says, know why the
- 51:29Speaker 1: skeleton went trick-or-treating alone?
- 51:31Speaker 3: Because he didn't have any body to go with.
- 51:33Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. The best part about it is the back
- 51:37Speaker 1: says zero gravity. This is like the publishing company.
- 51:42Speaker 3: Sustainable forestry.
- 51:43Speaker 1: Okay.
- 51:44Speaker 3: Okay, Grandma. Let's freaking go. Aww.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Aww. I'm gonna cry. This is highly symbolic and I
- 51:57Speaker 1: bet she doesn't even know.
- 52:01Speaker 3: Maybe she does.
- 52:02Speaker 1: I love it.
- 52:14Speaker 3: Love this girl.
- 52:16Speaker 1: Anyways. Yeah, bye.