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Craig Meriwether: ⁓ well, you know, long story ⁓ short, I guess, I grew up in the church, the Episcopal Church, kind of born into the Episcopal Church, just the church that is up the street from, you know, where I grew up. So if it was a Methodist church or you know, Lutheran we would have been Lutheran or Methodist, but just having to be Episcopalian. And if people aren't familiar with the Episcopal Church, it's sort of Catholicism-like. And that was a big part of my world growing up. And starting in sixth grade to 12th grade, I went to a Baptist run school. So I kind of had these two very different kind of philosophies and theologies around Christianity growing up. And that was this the entirety of my life. Basically, all my friends went to church or obviously to the schools I went to. And that was a big part of of growing up. The other part. of growing up was the depression and anxiety I was struggling with. this the 1980s, so there's no internet, there's no SSRI drugs Prozac, those didn't come out until ⁓ the late So really in the 1980s, all you had was whatever book you might be able to find at the library or the bookstore, and whatever talk you might find on the Yellow Pages. Or ⁓ if you would somebody. What's their what their recommendation was for a talk therapist, which of course you're not going to do back in the early 80s ⁓ so it really was just kind of Struggling through it and suffering through it as a as teenager And as I ⁓ in my 20s, I moved to a small town and went to school in university and You know you learn more about the world learn more about other people and ⁓ where they come and their philosophies of life and listen to their music and you you know, there's festivals on the weekends and You started learning more about their spiritual beliefs And so it sort of this slow drip of learning about the world as well as learning about myself Understanding more about what I was going through and how to deal with it the the personal growth movement got really big Tony Robbins became super huge and so in trying to find a way out ⁓ of kind of issue fog of anxiety and depression I was struggling with I started doing a lot of personal growth self-help stuff. Yeah, I was doing some talk therapy here and there but I didn't really feel that was helpful because I didn't know what the problem was and so I was doing a lot of you know personal growth stuff and Peter: Well, you know, you have to remember, though, the 80s, they didn't know much about this stuff. So a lot of this stuff, was still new to them, you know, you're trying to diagnose these things. So a lot of stuff didn't exist at your time, you know. So like you're basically going in the unknown. You don't know what's going on. So when you're going to therapy, you're expecting that like they're going to help you figure out what it is you're dealing with or what is it that what is the issue I'm having. So I know how to better attack it. But at that point, you both are kind of guessing at that point, because. Craig Meriwether: Yeah, yeah. mean, even... Yeah. Peter: They didn't really know much, know, and you obviously didn't know much because you're a teenager at the time. You don't know any of that kind of stuff. You only had limited resources of what you can know, you know, so you can only look up based on what the symptoms you're having are. And that could be a million different things at the time, you know, you know, versus today where you have like you go to chat, GPT, start looking up certain things and get a better idea, you know, which is still a scary place to be. I mean, but, know, it's it's it's interesting, though, because a lot of people. Craig Meriwether: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Peter: When it comes to spiritual, they just get a little thrown off by it because it just depends how it's been presented to them. I my personal experience at first was it was a horrible experience because everybody I met was always just ⁓ to force feed it to you. And it's like, yeah, I don't take things that well. It's different when you're sitting there having an actual conversation with me, letting me ask the questions I have, and just getting answers that the best other person can give me. Okay, it's a little different. I have questions of things. I'm just kind of curious things, you know, you see a lot of people that get super fanatical, you know, a lot of times that's what it's portrayed as, people are super fanatical. This and all these other like wild things that you know, movies and TVs these days will put out there for you. And it's really not what it's like, you know, in laugh every time I see some of them too, because it's just so funny because it's over dramaticized for a lot of people. And it's just like, God, you don't need to stop. It's like you're making this look worse than it has to be. I religion is a great thing. It's nothing wrong with having a higher power of some sort. Everybody had a higher power of some sort. Think about it, the Indians had their own separate gods or anything. The Greeks and the Romans all had all different gods or different things. You know what mean? However you did it, there was something higher up there that you were talking to and that you were praising and things like that too. And you prayed too and just, you know, and things like that too. And I think that that's where a lot of stuff gets muddled when it came to lot of stuff like that. For me, was just like the way it was presented is just like it's off-putting to me now. I am a man of faith now, but I don't force feed it on anybody. I tell people God has a plan for everybody. You may not understand the plan, but none of us will. I don't think any of us ever will. That's great thing about it. You just have to trust that he has your best intentions, which most times he does. Some people may not see it that way, but that's their own opinions. That's great thing about being human. We have our own opinions. Craig Meriwether: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I think you hit on a really important aspect of what's going on nowadays. We get so much of our stuff either through, you know, chat GPT, you know, some of the AI stuff, obviously not just chat, GPT, there's like 30 of them, but yeah. And social media. And obviously there's a huge bias of even just the algorithm of whatever you happen to look at the people you like. And, all that stuff that's going to feed you a certain viewpoint. Peter: Okay, Social media. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: Whereas what was fascinating to me as now I look back upon it in this ⁓ it was in Santa Cruz, which is right near San Francisco, it's right near Silicon Valley. And so just had people from around the world. And of course, going to university, you're learning so much about everything and every weekend seemed to be some sort of fair or festival. And you take us in meditation class and you, know, I, lived in a house, my girlfriend at time, well now wife. We lived in the back house and the front house was a group of guys who were studying pin chocks a lot, is Indonesian martial arts. And the guy, teacher guy was ⁓ six foot two ⁓ redheaded guy. And he was learning Indonesian martial arts. And Peter: Okay. Craig Meriwether: It's just that was in the front of the house. And so you're just surrounded by all this stuff and you're learning about it. And what I found is of course, I had my limited view. This is the 1980s. didn't, you know, as I was growing up, you didn't have the internet. And internet was what 96, 97 when it started coming out with our point modems and it took 12 hours to download a picture and all that. But it's just, again, it's like whoever you met or again, whatever street fair you went to or festival or something. And you. Peter: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. Craig Meriwether: It was fascinating to me about Santa Cruz is there something like seven, eight bookstores just in that downtown area. If anybody knows Santa Cruz, there's that kind of three blocks wide and maybe 10 blocks long the downtown. And back in the day, back in the 70s, 80s, 90s, was like seven, bookstores. There was like 16 movie screens, most of them, which were art house, movie screens, all sorts of different cafes. You just walk down the street, you see all your friends and chit chat. All sorts of different music coming through because it's right near San Francisco between San Francisco and LA. So a lot of the bands would just stop off one more night and play Santa Cruz. So it, my worldview just started to widen. It was a slow drip, certainly, but my worldview started to widen and it's sort of like going to the spiritual bookstore. I was like, well, I only like this one little section because I, that's all I understand. And it's other stuff about angels and past lives and reincarnation and whatever else is in there. Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: I say crystals, I say, know, that's nonsense and I don't understand it I don't like it. And then as I learn more, as I understand more about other people's cultures, that just kind of whitens more and more. And so what was interesting about the 90s ⁓ later in the 90s when the Prozac and all the other SSRI drugs started coming out, the conversation opened about depression and feeling that anxiety. Before you kind of really didn't talk about it, you just hit it. Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: but now it's on Deep Breath, it's on Phil Donahue, it's on the Merv Griffin show. talk about it with your doctor, you talk about it with your friends. And was okay to be depressed and it was okay to talk about it. And so that conversation opened up in my ⁓ realm of ⁓ kind of all that happened, I was getting, like I said, personal growth stuff. And one of the things that they were always talking about was hypnotherapy. Peter: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: And hypnotherapy, there's a whole different conversation right there just about the unfortunate misconceptions and myths about hypnotherapy. It's not mind control, not brainwashing. Peter: Yeah, you we've covered that with a few guests prior to this interview where we've touched on a few of those things, though, you know, it's like they were saying that, like, you people think you're just going to get hypnotized and people are going to think it's not even like that. It's not even what it's for. It's not even what people are using it for these days. Craig Meriwether: Yeah. Yeah. No, is just that alpha brainwave state. ⁓ Every, you multiple times a day, we all ⁓ you know, moving in an altered state of consciousness of that daydreamy state. You're bored at work, you're at a meeting at work, and your mind drifts off, ⁓ if I wasn't in this meeting, I could be getting that project done that's due on Thursday. Or, ⁓ got family coming in this weekend, ⁓ I gotta get the house cleaned up, I better get the refrigerator. You start thinking about something else. Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: You whether you remember high school math class, you remember that chemistry class in college and your mind would just drift off. Teachers still talking, but you don't hear them anymore. Kids asking questions or whatever, you're just staring out the window thinking about the weekend and how much fun you're gonna have with your friends. You've altered your state of consciousness being bored back in high school math class or that meeting at work or you're driving home. You ever had this experience driving home from work or from picking up the kids or from school or or whatever? Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: And you started to think about, I got that meeting on Friday. I need to get the PowerPoint done. And all of you're in your driveway or in your garage or in your parking spot. You don't remember the last five or six blocks. You yourself have altered your state of consciousness. You put yourself in the hypnosis state there's nothing magical or mystical about it. It's just moving down into the alpha brain. say literally the biology of it is how fast your brain is processing information. That's ⁓ And right now when Peter: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: Like you and I are P we're in this conversation. having a discussion. We're listening to each other. We're in this present moment focused in this present time. We're firing about 18, 20 per second in the beta brainwave state. Well, if I just drift off and start thinking about, the to-do list, I got to get done today and work and all the things I got to get done. Well, I've just altered my state of consciousness, slowed down how fast my brain is processing information, how fast it's shooting the little electrical pulses. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: to each of the brain cells. And now I'm firing about 12 cycles per second. I'm in the alpha brain waste state. Maybe I'll just really zone out and I'm not really asleep and not really awake. I moved into theta brain waste state, you know, and then I'm sorry. My head starts slowing down. I'm falling asleep. I'm in, I'm moving into the Delta brain waste state. And then let's say I'm back in high school math class and the teachers are, Hey Craig, why don't you come up here and do the problem on the board? I'm like, wake up. look around and everybody's staring at me. I'm embarrassed. I don't know how to do the problem on the board. I wasn't paying attention. And you know, now I'm stressed everybody's staring at me and I'm firing about 30 cycles per second because I'm in the fight or flight stress response. Well, I've just altered my state of consciousness went three or four times in about 10 minutes. ⁓ just being bored in high school math class. This is something we do every day so we can move in and out of this hypnosis state. We do it all the time. Everybody can do this. This isn't something you ⁓ cannot because you do it. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: And if you've ever, if any of listeners, Pete or you yourself have been to a hypnosis session and it was like, Oh, it didn't work. And they couldn't get me in it. I'm hypnosis. I'm not hypnotizable. I can't go into hypnosis. You can, you just didn't want to in that situation. The person made you feel uncomfortable, the room, the, the, you know, maybe it was some sort of academic, you know, university situation made you feel uncomfortable. You just didn't feel like it because you really didn't want to quit smoking or the change the habit or whatever. like. It's not about control. It's not about brainwashing. You can't make anybody do anything they don't want to do. Even those Las Vegas shows. You know, people are dancing like Michael Jackson and singing like Elvis Presley and barking like dogs and quacking like dust. Everybody that gets up on this stage volunteered to be up there. They want to be up there. They want to be star of the show. They want to have a good time. They want to have fun. They want a funny video to put on Instagram or something. Go viral. And who's the hypnotist going to pick at one of those Las Vegas shows or comedy club shows? Are picking the introvert? Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: at the back of the room, sitting in the shadows, sinking down their chair. So they won't be seen or are they picking the extrovert who got there early to sit in the front row and is jumping up and down and saying, pick me, pick me. You know, it's all about your intention and what you want to do. And what was fascinating about hypnotherapy, because a lot of the personal growth stuff that I was looking into in the nineties and even early two thousands. know, they would say something like in the back of the book or the blog post once the internet was out there. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: article in a magazine or something, it'd be like the five things you can do to change your life. And four of them would always be different, but one was always the same. It was always hypnotherapy. It's like these tools, these techniques allow you to access your own subconscious mind to create healing and resolution around hurt and pain, even if it was decades ago. And so I started looking into that and I found somebody to work with and I just, I did some deep healing work and released a resolved. A lot of those issues I've been dealing with for a couple of decades. what's also fascinating about hypnotherapy, so I scratched that itch of and ⁓ resolution the hurt and pain I was dealing with. Another aspect of hypnotherapy is the more spiritual side of it. It really started like informing upon my life. Because, know, and back in nowadays, you just go to Malibu or you go down to South America somewhere and do an ayahuasca ceremony or Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: go to somebody's, know, Wednesday evening in somebody's backyard and do an ayahuasca ceremony. And back then you couldn't do that kind of stuff. I'm sure there are states where it's still super illegal, but now it's easier to do, you you got the internet, you can find these places. Back then you just couldn't do it. So, and was certainly nervous just due to my upbringing, religious upbringing and just. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: I couldn't wrap my head around somebody who's handing me some chemistry they made in their bathtub and calling it LSD and saying, okay, this will give you a great trip. it's like, that always weirded me out. And so what other options is there? There's just like prayer, meditation, hypnotherapy. so hypnotherapy allows you again to tap into your own ⁓ to, you whether you call it your higher self or you call it God or you call it the energy of the universe or whatever you call it, tap into that as all the science, and that was a big part of my book, The Past Lives Guidebook, is looking at the science and the biology of all this. Because what a lot of research is saying is this brain of ours is not a warehouse, it's not a self-storage unit of memory or consciousness. Consciousness is not imprisoned within the skull here. Consciousness is non-local. meaning it can move around. And a lot of that research to show that was done by the government in that remote viewing research they did in the 70s and 80s. And now this is where your show kind of starts maybe turning more in a little conspiracy theory show. But this is all real research the government did. You actually look at it online on government research like cia.gov. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: And all this research got released because of the Freedom of Information Act in the early And government got real embarrassed that they were doing this weirdo ⁓ woo research around psychic ability and ESP and ⁓ all trying to it because the Soviet Union was doing the same. So in the late sixties, the CIA found out or it was implied that the Soviet Union was researching psychic ability, ESP. Because wouldn't it be great if you could look into the Pentagon and see warplanes or see troop movements or see into underground bunkers and all that. And so the CIA wanted to do the same again. And one of those, make a long story short, found some researchers at Stanford they started at least 25 years of research and experimentation around ⁓ consciousness and psychic ability. And guessing since it worked, Peter: All right. Craig Meriwether: because they were getting great results. they didn't get any results, that program would have lasted six months and they would have gone somewhere else to look for answers. They spent about 25 years, millions of dollars because it worked. They were getting some great results. And I'm guessing they're still doing it because if it worked, why would they stop even if they got embarrassed and found out? Peter: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like you said, if it would have been six months in, they're done. then what we're 25 years into this thing and they're still looking at it. So obviously they're finding out something that they're liking. Because, know, a lot of times they say we don't use all the we'll use a small percentage of our brain. What if we unlock the rest? You like a lot of these other movies premise on, you know, it's like, what if we unlock more part of our brain? What can we what's the more power we can have, you know, and what's the what's the unlimited capabilities we can do with it? Craig Meriwether: Yes. Yeah, yeah. so I'm, they probably just changed the name of the program and moved it to the office across the hall. So I'm guessing they're still doing it. But what was fascinating about it, and again, this is US government research. They found that consciousness can move forward and backwards in time. And again, there's lots of books because there's so much was written about it in the early nineties and a lot of jokes and, and eye rolling was done about it. A lot of those people in the program started writing their own books. There's a lot of information about these programs. Stargate. And that's the other thing. It's just like you give them these dumb names like Stargate and all this names like, it it sound very conspiratorial. But what's fascinating is they're doing legitimate research on consciousness and found that not only can you move across location, it can move forward and backwards in time. And so lot other research has come out since then. ⁓ You know in the last whatever 60 years again showing that consciousness is not in prison within the skull and that the brain is not this kind of Raiders of the Lost Ark warehouse information memories and housing of the consciousness But that is more of an antenna sort of like here's you know, I got my phone here I have the entirety ⁓ entire wisdom of the world Here but it's not in my phone. I'm accessing it, I'm pulling it in. This is like a big huge antenna computer and I'm pulling it in. Yeah, I got a couple of pictures, I got a couple of songs on here, a couple of apps, but the information of the world is not in my phone. I'm pulling it in like an antenna. And our brain seemed to operate in a similar way, specifically looking at the pineal gland. That's what the book's all about, is looking at the science and the biology and even the history and what... Peter: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: What do different religions say about ⁓ ⁓ like Hinduism and Buddhism and Judaism and Christianity and indigenous cultures from around the world? And it's fascinating the history of it all, where it came from. I even go all the way back to ⁓ with Neanderthal burial sites. And is there any indication on how Neanderthals 50,000 years ago buried their ⁓ their tribe, their family that they had thoughts? Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: about life after death. And so, it's beyond belief and it's been a slow drip. And the book was basically written due to my own skepticism and wanting to find out about this. Because again, this is a slow drip of using hypnotherapy only in my ⁓ own life healing, but then ⁓ understanding it as ⁓ an access to the more spiritual I was fascinated by. Peter: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: to the point of like more middle-aged, like I had the opportunity to get some great training in this work and become a hypnotherapist myself and help people in this way. And so this has been like a slow drip over, you know, since a teenager, since the early 1980s to getting trained about, you know, 12 years ago. So it's been this slow drip of and widening of my worldview to the point where it's like, I wonder, how true this really is. It's fascinating and I kind of exfile saying I want to believe, but is there any scientific validity behind any of this? Because the books like Brian Weiss and Dolores Cannon and all that are fun to read, but it's really about somebody's specific experience. doesn't explain why it could be happening. Because there's all sorts of different things and people way smarter than me. are still arguing over whether this is reality of ours is a computer simulation or is it a holographic universe or is it at the multiverse or well Peter: Yeah, see the multiverse is what I was gonna say too. just beat me to the punch of that one. know, is this another parallel universe or something else? You know, like some of these these superhero shows, you know, like The Flash was one of those big ones that really highlighted a lot in the 90s. Like when they were talking about how there were different Earths or on Earth, whatever, you know, there's different things that happen in reverse, you know, here. And, know, like, are we in a parallel universe? Is there life outside of this galaxy? You know, as we discovered, there's another whole other thing on the other side of this whole, you know, stuff like that. We start exploring. As we go, you know? Craig Meriwether: Yeah, well, it's that funny line in the Big Bang Theory. And Sheldon says something, Penny wants him to come dance with her or something. says, I believe in the multiverse. And in one of those universes, I'm a candymaid. I'm a clown made of candy, but in none of them do I dance. that's, you it's a funny joke, just funny line. But you know, it sounds like, yeah, that's a real theory, real scientific theory that there's multiverses and multiple Craig's and multiple Peets and, ⁓ we're Peter: I that show. I love that show. Yeah. Yeah. Craig Meriwether: maybe doing similar things, very, very, very similar. And that's what's interesting about past life regression. When somebody, I'm working with somebody with past life regression, maybe they go like, it seems to be the 1970s. And you can kind of see the gears turning in their heads. Like, well, time wise, that doesn't make any sense. Cause they think it's going to be ancient Greece or Egypt back in, you know, five BC or something. And they're helping build the pyramids 20,000 years ago or something. And, but it's like, no, it seemed to be a, just I'm an accountant the ⁓ you know, and it's like it's not, you know, a chariot driver and it's not, you know, in back in the Civil War or rowing the boat across to Delaware or whatever. I want to say it's plain, but it's like what they're looking at is trying to resolve some hurt and pain maybe in their current life. And it's connected to this life they lived. so ⁓ if it's the 70s or the 1980s even, it's just like doing a play, ⁓ a theater troupe doing a play. And do play like in January and maybe it's play from the 1960s. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: Then maybe in March they go do a play, you know, an ancient Greek tragedy. then in May they do a Shakespeare play. then they're doing in July, they're doing a more modern play written in the 2000s. Timelines can jump and maybe ⁓ they go in order for fun. But maybe they're jumping around due to some theme they're looking at. But same with our lives. And a lot of this information ⁓ and the Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: work I do is based on the research of Michael Newton and two books that are incredible and really have influenced my view of the world and the work I do and even the book I wrote is Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls. And the work he did with tens of thousands of people over the course of 40 years he was doing the work and now that Michael Newton Institute continues to do even more work, Michael Newton passed away I think in 2011 or something. But even the Michael Newton Institute released a book a couple of years ago, Wisdom of the Soul, something like that, I think. it's not so much just looking at one person's story. They're looking at multiple people's stories. And especially those first two ⁓ books, Journey Souls and Destiny of Souls. What he was finding, he accidentally regressed somebody as a hypnotherapist working with somebody in 69. He wanted to regress them ⁓ back childhood, hoping that would help them release the pain they were dealing with, the trauma they were dealing with. Well, doing this hypnosis work, regressing them back to childhood to resolve and heal the issues happened during childhood, the guy kept going. And he went past childhood, he went past being a newborn, and he went back to soul state, that time of being a soul before you arrive on earth. And he did great emotional healing work there. And so this fascinated Michael Newton. And he wonders like, well, can other people do this? And can I help them get there? Because it was rather accidental that he did this. And so he spent some of the early 70s kind of perfecting, if you will, this protocol of getting people to that state. And then he started working with people just to see the healing could be accomplished. And What he found is people were having similar experiences to each other. Now he's working with hundreds and hundreds of people, 365 days a year. And he worked with people over 20 years because he found that they kept having similar experiences to each other. This is the seventies, this is eighties. There's no internet. There's way to contact each other. No email, no text messages or anything. I'm sorry, my phone's going off. So I forgot to put it in airplane mode. My apologies. Peter: Yeah, you're Craig Meriwether: There he goes. so he was working with people over the course of 20 years because they kept having similar experiences of the soul state of the soul world. And so he started researching and compiling and eventually came out with his book Journey of Souls in 1992. Did another 10 years worth of research and released Destiny of Soul. That's kind of volume two, which is even twice as big as the first book. It's like 30 years worth of research with tens of thousands of people all having similar experiences to each other of this soul state. And one of the aspects that they coming back with is that we keep returning to this earth as a classroom again and again to learn and grow as souls. Not unlike maybe going to school and gets a master's degree at a university for mathematics, you just don't go and ⁓ get a master's degree in mathematics. You have to study for years. You have to start in first grade with two plus two equals four. And in the second grade you learn subtraction. In the third grade you learn your times tables. Fourth grade you learn long division. In high school you're learning algebra and calculus and trigonometry. Then you're writing those crazy equations on the chalkboard. Those goodwill hunting, you know, equations. Yeah, and, ⁓ but it took, it took years to get there, you know? Peter: I was going to say Google Honey, you beat me to it. Craig Meriwether: It took, you know, 12, 15 years to get to that master's degree of mathematics. And we may be doing something similar if you look at each grade as a life. What if it takes multiple years, multiple lifetimes to learn something that we're here to to master? And as an example, just as a broad general example. Let's say somebody wants to learn about wealth and abundance. Well, the obvious thing was like, yes, learn, be a wealthy person and have a yacht and have a private plane and have the house in the south of France and all that stuff. you know, your own private of, you know, resort kind of ranch in Kwai or something right next to Oprah. And we could, you can obviously understand a lot about wealth by being a wealthy person, but would it not also be helpful in understanding wealth in abundance to live in abject poverty in Calcutta. Would it be helpful to understand what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck with three kids out of a mobile home in the Midwest somewhere? You know, that sounds stereotypical about it, but it's like, would it be helpful to learn various aspects of wealth and abundance in order to get that master's degree, let alone love or compassion or empathy or ⁓ And so ⁓ Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: We return again and again, according to research done by Michael Newton and Michael Newton Institute over the last 60 years, to learn, grow, develop as souls, as spirits. And not unlike the computer simulation computer simulation, let's a flight simulator pilot needs to fly into London next week. Well, ⁓ if they've never to London, they're going to want to practice. and they're going to get on their home computer and their flight simulator at home in a safe place in their home office or living room or something in the den. And they're going to practice flying to London. And what happens if there's terrible turbulence over the Atlantic? What happens if it's pouring rain at nighttime? What if they switch runways at the last minute? What if some reason Heathrow shuts down? have to fly to Gatwick airport at the last minute. What are they going to do? They're going to practice all these various scenarios in a safe place, hoping they don't need it. you know, when they actually fly there. But if something happens, they're prepared for it. That's what a flight simulator is helping you do. What if this world of ours is a computer simulation where we're learning, you know, aspects of ourselves as souls, as spirits, as humans that we're going to need somewhere else. You know, and that's what justice and that's just the computer simulation theory, let alone holographic or multiverse or whatever. And so it becomes very fascinating. It becomes head spinning at times. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: This could be a 10 hour conversation. We'd probably have questions than answers by the end of it. But that's again, that's where the book comes from. It's just. Yeah. ⁓ Peter: Right. But I mean, it's very fascinating, though, you think about it, because what if it is a computer simulation? There's a lot of like Japanese cartoons that explored this option of what if you were living in a 3D world and you could be anybody you want to be kind of thing. And it's like, you know, all these things could change, you know, and things like that, too. And a lot of people like they frown upon certain things. But it's like, think about it. They're exploring these avenues. Like, what was the one I was watching was called Papariko, the one where like What if mind control vices took over the world and these people were actually like hallucinating? know, like inception was a little bit of it too, you know, and things like that too. And the other thing I was thinking of the men who stare at goats when we were talking about the military experiment, that one too is a really good defectation of what you're basically talking about there. But I mean, it is a good question though. Think about it like, you know, because we've explored past lives on this show before, if I wouldn't guess. We had a woman that was from England that we were talking about and she was talking about how she said that I would something to do mind on my past lives was like, you know, I, Craig Meriwether: ⁓ yeah. Peter: I was like, I was somebody that really heard before, but now I'm being heard now. And then she had mentioned another gentleman she had talked to that it kept having flashbacks of something that happened to him. And he doesn't have any idea what it was, but it was going back to some past life he was in a totally different scenario, nothing like Greek or nothing else. was like, think it was like the 1960s, if I'm right. He was a cop or something. unfortunately, the cop in this past life got stabbed to death and he kept wondering why he had having this fear of knives. and couldn't figure out what it was, you know, and then it was linked to that. it's all really fascinating to me because I was like, damn, I was like, it's just like, well, that's really cool. You know, because like, like what about other people's past lives? You know, they may not know, you know. And then when we explored hypnotherapy, one of our guests in this season, she actually didn't know she was actually sexually assaulted because at three years old she was. But her brain cut off that memory so she wouldn't know. But her body remembered it, though. So when she was doing hypnotherapy, her therapist kept saying, Hey, there's something we need to talk about, but wouldn't say what it was at first. You know, so it was all fascinating to me as soon as I meet, anytime I see a hypnotherapist and I'm like, ⁓ yeah, let's go. Because I love these conversations because the things you guys do, and I think people misunderstand a lot of this stuff. It's like, you could dig deeper past that first mental barrier in your wall, you know, in your mind that protects on things. You can get deeper in and you can see things that you may not even know. Like, that guest didn't even know that this even happened her. She had no idea, but her body remembered it. Craig Meriwether: Right. Yeah, yeah, there's that famous book, The Body Keeps the Score. And a lot of the work I do in terms of the more therapeutic side of the clinical hypnotherapist as opposed to more spiritual hypnotherapy is starting that feeling staying in the body. Because we just don't in and of itself want to start looking for memories. Because maybe somebody's like, I don't know, I just I can't. Peter: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: A lot of people could be, can't remember my childhood and I think something happened. My parents or my aunts and uncles always act weird when I'm around and I think something happened when I was a kid. I want to find out what it is. It's like, well, I don't do that kind of work because you just don't want to go look for traumatic memory. That's, you know, if they're Peter: Yeah, I agree. Craig Meriwether: If there is one, okay, I guess there obviously can be some resolution and healing work around that. But if there isn't one and the computer code command is to find a traumatic event, the mind will create a traumatic event. And that's where a lot of that false memory syndrome stuff came up in the 1980s and 1990s is know, counselors and hypnotherapists and things, especially with children, were asking very, very leading questions. And so the subconscious mind and just a kind of human being wanting to be accepted and get approval was like, okay, well, you want me to find a traumatic event. Well, how about this? You know, and does it, you know, a lot of people ⁓ their lives destroyed and went to jail even only to find out later that, ⁓ it was never, it never happened. was a false memory because the subconscious mind wanting just ⁓ to appease ⁓ commands, computer code commands. just came up with something that wasn't real. And so we don't necessarily want to look for traumatic event. So we start with the feeling in the body because the mind understands why that feeling state is there, whether you describe it as anxiety depression or anger or resentment or regret or disappointment or whatever, however it's defined, however it's felt in the body, that can only be created by brain chemistry. Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: Say for example, know anxiety, the brain has to start creating the hormones adrenaline and cortisol and the neural peptides these molecules the brain creates that send the message of anxiety or anger or disappointment or frustration or joy or happiness to the cells of the body. So that's where get that feeling state. You can tell the difference between anger, anxiety, joy and happiness because of these neural peptides. Well, the only way the brain is changing chemistry in this way is through a thought conscious or unconscious. Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: So you know why you're doing it. yeah, but maybe unconscious, but that's the brilliance of hypnotherapy and these techniques is by quieting down that conscious level of mind, that logical analytical part of mind, quieting that down and then accessing behind the veil into subconscious mind, that filing cabinet where all these files have been kept of the hurt and pain, maybe even since you were a little kid. Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: and seeing which one is being triggered. Why is the alarm system of anxiety and anger or fear going off? And that feeling state from the body of fear, anxiety or anger is directly connected to the thought, maybe unconscious thought that is creating it. So let's follow it that way. You know why you're doing it, not consciously. That's why sometimes talk therapy can be very frustrating. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: I think talk therapy can be very helpful, very useful, very healing. But sometimes people find themselves spinning their wheels because they know what the problem is. Your subconscious mind knows that's why you keep getting that feeling state or the self-sabotage or the habits needing to numb yourself with doom scrolling or video games or drinking or pills or whatever the thing may be. ⁓ You know why you're doing that, why you're protecting yourself, why you're trying to self-soothe. so it's these techniques and these tools of therapeutic hypnosis help you access that part of your mind. And this is where the control comes back. Because you don't know for yourself, you're already out of control. Somebody's dealing with anxiety, maybe disrupting their life, and they don't know why they're doing it. You're already out of control. So what this is going to do is give you back control. And I can't, again, I can't make anybody, as you probably discussed on your shows before, Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: I can't make anybody do anything they don't want to do. That's why smoking cessation, why, you know, what hypotherapy is most known for helping people quit smoking. Why is not a hundred percent guarantee? Cause if you don't want to quit smoking, you're not going to quit smoking. If somebody's wife or husband sets up the appointment and say, okay, they're going to quit smoking. I'm tired of the cost. I'm tired of the health implications later in life. I'm tired of the smell. And the husband, the wife shows up for the appointment and they're like, nah, I don't want to quit smoking. I'll just. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: I was just, do a couple of sessions and I'll tell, I'll tell them it didn't work and I'll smoke in the garage. You know, it was like, they don't want to quit. So they're not going to quit. Otherwise I could go to every Las Vegas casino and bar and just make people quit smoking and everybody'd be healthier. You know, I'd, I'd be able to go to every prison and, uh, hypnotize everybody to be law-abiding, upstanding citizens. And I'd shut down the prison system. I'd, I'd be able to, to, uh, hypnotize my way into the United nations. and hypnotize all the world leaders to create world peace. I'd be the guy who ended war. I'd be that guy. It celebrates and sing songs about me. But I can't do that because that's not how it works. This is not a control mechanism. And even again, like those shows in Las Vegas or comedy clubs, it's like everybody gets up there, wants to be in the show. And if they get, even if they want to be up there and they get up there and they're all sudden, ⁓ my God, a hundred people are staring at me now under these bright lights. Peter: Yeah. Yeah. Craig Meriwether: and they get really nervous, they'll be excused from the stage. You know, because they're going to do a little practice thing and he's going to, hip is going to look for little subtle cues. Like a magician is looking for subtle cues. You're going to look for some cues like the facial muscles drooping a little bit. Maybe the eye is darting around as they're closed. Maybe even picking up the arm and just dropping it and seeing if it's loose and limp. And if it's not, they're really tight and know, stressed by, you're not going to do a good show. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: why they get like 12, 15 people up there because two or three of them are going to be excused because you can't make anybody do anything they don't want to do. And their stress levels go up and they're like, ⁓ I don't want to this. Like you see the videos on YouTube, like the street hypnosis and somebody who's just walking up to somebody who's like sleep. And then they like, It's like, that was rehearsed. That was rehearsed the week before. So they try and get a viral video going ⁓ for their or for their clinic or whatever they're doing. Peter: Exactly. Craig Meriwether: I like, don't dare anybody to do this because it's not going to end well for you. But, know, think about what would happen if you walked up to some stranger in the street and went sleep. They're going to punch you in the face and then run away because they don't know what's going on. This is a weirdo coming up to me and yelling at me sleep. It's like, even if you're trained in how to do that, it's still like it's frightening. You're going to you're going to tense up and react in a self preservation way, not just droop down. It's like that's that's just like an actor. Peter: All right. Craig Meriwether: doing that. You can't make anybody do anything they don't want to do. So what do you want to do? You want to create healing? You want to create more confidence in life? You want to access the more spiritual side of life? It's like you're allowed to do that. You know, and while ayahuasca ceremonies and maybe even ⁓ or doing LSD or whatever the thing is, yeah, that can be helpful and stuff. What I like about hypnotherapy is the control it gives you. And there's that, there's that word again. Because in and of itself, you can't control an ayahuasca experience or an LSD experience. But you can control the hypnotherapeutic experience and using that in a more spiritual way and even doing something like past life regression or moving up in that soul state or with ancestors or whatever the work is you're interested in doing, you're allowed to do. You have the hardware of this brain, this antenna. Peter: Yeah. Craig Meriwether: What a lot of research in science, what I write in the book, a lot of research in science of this is showing that the brain is more of a receiver and transmitter of information. There's a lot of what I'm going to do with it. Well, I'll find it here in a second. Actually, hold on a second. Try that. Just real quick, since I have it right here in my briefcase. There's this research study that came out. I think it was 2020. Frontiers in psychology. I don't know if this is backwards to everybody, but ⁓ the common basis of memory and consciousness, understanding the brain as a right-read head interacting with an omnipresent background feeling. That's a lot of fancy language. What I saying is, again, this ⁓ of ours isn't ⁓ warehouse, isn't a ⁓ unit of memory, but it's a receiver and transmitter. A of people look at it as the graph. Peter: No, you're good. Craig Meriwether: Grab it, so if you're just ⁓ listening on audio, apologize, but here's a little diagram of the brain and the pineal gland. It's like a rice-sized piece of the brain. Its main job is melatonin production. But ⁓ this other research came out, think, in 2014. This one says, new crystal in the pineal gland, characterization of potential role in electromechanotransduction. Again, a bunch of fancy language, but what it's saying is this pineal gland, again, main job is melatonin production, the hormone that puts us to sleep at night as the sun goes down. And then as the sun rises, melatonin production ceases, cortisol levels go up and we wake up. Well, what this research found is that the ⁓ gland is filled with these little crystals. And if you're just listening to ⁓ audio, If you Google search pineal gland crystals and go to images, you'll see these crystals. ⁓ this rice-sized piece of the brain, there is 40,000 of these crystals in this rice-sized piece of the brain. They have nothing to do with melatonin production. There's evolutionary need for these crystals. But what that research paper was just talking about... is creates, saying it creates a transducer effect. Like there's a lot of crystals out there, like quartz crystals, that when mechanical pressure is applied, creates a electrical charge, electromagnetic field. And our brains, when mechanical pressure is applied to these crystals in the pineal gland, electromagnetic field can be measured in our brain. And what this research paper is suggesting is that creates a transducer effect. like, Back in the day, we had a car radio and a little antenna on the hood. And there's, you know, if you're in a big city, a really big city, you might have 50 radio stations between the news and talk radio and sports, and then all the music, classical and hip hop and jazz and rock and whatever country. You could potentially have 50 radio stations, but when you turn on your car radio, you don't get that white noise of every radio station. You're pulling in one signal. And that signal is determined by where on the little dial your radio is tuned to. So the antenna is vibrating microscopically to pull in that one signal. There's a tiny little transducer in your radio, which turns that frequency into audio. Our TVs back in the day, not anymore because it's all internet and all that kind of stuff. But back in the day, we had antennas on our house ⁓ those rabbit ears on our TVs. And when I wanted to watch my TV show, Cheers on Thursday night at nine o'clock, I had to turn on my TV, turn it to channel 10. The rabbit ears on my TV or the antenna on my house started vibrating microscopically to attract that one signal of all the radio signals and TV signals and microwaves and nowadays, Wi-Fi and cell tower stuff. Pulled in that one signal, pulled it through the TV. And that frequency with my transducer and my TV turned it into image and sound so I could watch my TV show. That's what this paper suggesting the pineal gland is doing, pulling in frequencies. And that other research paper said the omnipresent background field is where all this is ⁓ Sort of like the servers at a university or Google or those big server farms holds all the information and my phone pulls it in. Well, the omnipresent background field, what that is suggesting is that in an atom, when you look, take an electron microscope, you start looking at what's an atom? this, the atoms that form me that create Pete, that create this desk and my microphone and furniture in my house, all the atoms, if you look at an atom, has electrons, the neutrons, then subatomic particles like quarks and things. And then the very essence of an atom is that vibrational field. You know, and that's what it's saying is holding all this information. That's what we're turning tuning into. You know, with all this, this, you know, biology in our brains, you know, so our brain becomes an antenna or radar dish. You can only receive information, but put out information into the universe. Yeah. Peter: Yeah. That's pretty cool though. mean, that's very interesting. Just because, you know, we do have electrical pulses that go through our body. So it would make sense. Some sort of thing like that happening possibly too. And that's really interesting though, to know though, like, but that's, that's, I mean, I'm not, I'm not against it. I don't see it not being a possibility though, without a lot of things that happen these days, you know, because rather they used to think the aliens were going to steal our brainways. So people would put foil hats on to protect their, you know, we all thought they were crazy, but apparently not. This research is saying otherwise, it may be a strong possibility. We do put out things like that though. Craig Meriwether: Yeah. Peter: You know, so but Craig as we get ready start wrapping up this episode of Pete First Anxiety Man I want to ask you two questions. Now these are first one's kind of a fun question like that's why I'm the guest and I'm very interested to know your answer to this question. So the question is to you is that if your mental health had a song, what would you say that song would be? Everybody loves this question. telling you I get the Sabres but everybody laughs when they hear it. They're like man. That's a great question Craig Meriwether: You know and this this is just where my mind went that the first song that came to me was helter-skelter By the by the Beatles and then the other one was ⁓ disco inferno. I don't forget who Disco inferno, ⁓ I had some time and I I probably find a more eloquent graceful song But those are the first two songs Peter: ⁓ there you go. Okay. Okay. I love it. no, that's a great answer though. That's hilarious though because Helter Skelter is the first time it's shown up by the Beatles. I the Beatles are the first entry of the Beatles since I've been asking this question to people because it's always fun to see what their responses are to it. And Disco Inferno is a good one too though, you know? mean, because for a lot of people that's just what you're feeling in the moment. just first saw it and came to your mind. Boom, that's what it is usually. It's one those fun questions to throw people off just to see what they say, you know? So my next question... Craig Meriwether: Yeah, well, and the first answer is usually the most accurate. And I think just in terms of the chaos of the world right now as we record this, ⁓ just what it feels like in life right now. Yeah, so, yeah. Peter: Alright. Yeah. Yep. So Craig, my next question for you in the main reason I start this podcast is if you could break the stigma about mental health. Now, when I ask this question to you, it's anything that you just get tired of people asking you about, like, you know, anything that you like, you feel like you hear somebody talking about you, just like, man, I wish you'd stop believing that. That's not really right. What would you say that one thing would be? Craig Meriwether: I would say two parts. Of course, the ⁓ thing about ⁓ and being mind controlled and brainwashing. And I don't want people looking my conscious ⁓ mind giving away my secrets, which is not a thing. I guess frustrating after so many years of trying to explain and so much research out there now and how helpful hypnotherapy can be. But in terms of mental health itself, I would say, you know, I think what the misnomer is, is that Depression and anxiety and anger and regret and resentment are not so much states of being that just inform this is how you are, but are more like warning signals, sort of like somebody pulling the fire alarm in the building and the sirens go off, strobe lights go off, warning everybody that there's danger. Your subconscious mind's main job is to keep you safe and protected. And we also have a warning system, but instead of sirens and lights, we have feeling stains. And so if the feeling state in your body Peter: Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: is telling you and feels like anxiety. You know, it's like the different sirens that you can tell what's a fire truck, what's an ambulance and what's a car or, you can tell in a movie that that, that's a, obviously we're in Burton because it has that funny police siren that it does. Like there's different sirens. Well, we have different alarm systems too. And whether you want to define it as depression or anxiety or fear or anger or something else, we have these warning systems. And so it's not that there's really something wrong with you is Peter: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: Why do you feel you're in danger? What is your mind trying to warn you about through this feeling state in your body? So it's not that there's something wrong with you. You're not broken. It's just that something in your world is dangerous. Now, it may be a slight thing. It may be even an imagined thing, because that's kind of the issue of being human. minds can't tell the difference between what's real and what's imagined. But in ⁓ above itself, that Yes, a fire is not coming towards your house of an attacker is not coming at you with a knife. kind of life threatening danger. But there's something, whether at work or in family or relationship or something in life that is sending out these warning signals. You're not broken. It's just that something in your life ⁓ being perceived as dangerous, maybe because of something that happened a long time ago and it maybe kind of looks familiar. And so the alarm system is going, we don't want this to happen again. So let's warn you. problem is the subconscious mind speaks in a more metaphoric and symbolic way. And so, ⁓ the warning systems is feeling ⁓ so, ⁓ it doesn't hand you a card and say, here's the problem. Like those error you sometimes get on the computer that actually tell you what the problem is. It unfortunately doesn't do this. And the other aspect of being human, what you practice, you get better at. Peter: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Craig Meriwether: You know, that's great. If you want to learn the piano or the guitar or learn dance or learn martial arts, learn to walk as a kid, learn to ride a bicycle. What you practice, you get better at. Unfortunately, if you're practicing anxiety, practicing fear, practicing being angry, you're just going to get really good at that. But again, one great set of tools and techniques, hypnotherapy can help release and resolve a lot that. So you can start practicing something else. So I think, I think that was a long answer to a short question. Peter: I think it was a great answer though. I think it was a really detailed great answer to things too because I feel the same way. My anxiety when it kicks up usually is indicating to me that something's wrong. I have a feeling like I can sense something's not right and I'm not sure what it is but I know something is going on or I need to be somewhere or something's telling me, hey man, be alert of something. So you're not wrong. I love the answer. it may, to other people maybe lengthy, but that was a great explanation though. Craig, I really liked how you broke that down for him because it makes a lot of sense, you know? But Craig, thank you so much. Go ahead. Craig Meriwether: You know, I really I know we got to go just really quick because I want to add upon what you just said And then in and of itself, I don't think we need we want to get rid of anxiety and fear completely That's what keeps us safe. That's what keeps us from walking down the dark alley because you're saying when I feel Anxious, you know, I've looked in my life and see what's dangerous. You want those warning systems You just don't want it at a volume of 10 24 hours a day seven days a week Peter: Do good. Mm-hmm. Craig Meriwether: It's that fear that anxiety keeps us from walking down the dark alley at midnight even though it's a shortcut home from peering over the edge of the Grand Canyon too far, know from petting the nice rattlesnake or the scorpion or something that fear and anxiety keeps us from doing that. That's great. It keeps us safe. It keeps us alive. It's just when it kind of runs a pretty chronic state at the volume level of 10 that it becomes a problem. Peter: Yeah. No, Craig, I think that was a great answer. Like I said, man, I loved it. And thank you so much for coming to hang out with me today. I really enjoyed this conversation. I thought it was very insightful. You know, I thought we really covered a lot of interesting topics with it too and everything else like that. So I appreciate you spending the time with me hanging out. Craig, before we start signing off, do you want to let everybody know where they can find you? Tell them where they can buy the book, man. I know it's not ready. I know I got my copy here with me. I got to finish reading. But guys, you know, go check out Craig's book. Craig, tell them where they can find it at. Craig Meriwether: Yeah, me too. Thank Yeah, of course you can find it at Amazon ⁓ past lives guidebook at Barnes and noble.com at your local bookstore if they have that those kind of books. The best to get in touch with me and there's two ways a more clinical side of thing is Arizona integrative hypnotherapy. I know that's a mouthful. ⁓ I live Flagstaff, Arizona, but do most of my sessions over zoom. And so I with people around the country around the world. In fact, I've had the unique pleasure of working with people from Iceland and Tahiti and Bulgaria. I mean, you're Americans, you just happen to be in Bulgaria, Iceland and Tahiti. But if you go to the Google machine and you search Flagstaff hypnosis, you'll see Arizona Integrative Hypnotherapy pop up. That's me. If you are interested in more spiritual side of things, of course, the Past Lives Guidebook on Amazon, but also Sacred Mystery Hypnotherapy. ⁓ And that's lot more of ⁓ Peter: Well, that's really cool. Craig Meriwether: the work I do on the spiritual side of things. Peter: I love it Craig. Well thank you so much for coming to hang out with us today man. Like I said, I've really had a great time being here. I do have my copy, I gotta finish reading though, but I've been enjoying so far the books. ⁓ Craig Meriwether: I know it's a big book. My wife, uh, gives me all the time. this like what a 200 page book turned into a 450 page book. Peter: Well, it gives me something to read, man. I got a stack of books I have to read through. I read them, you know, I get a bunch of them all the time and I appreciate every time somebody sends me one. So I do take the time to read them. It does take me a little bit with everything else that goes on. But, you know, it's something great to do my free time, man. You know, when I need a little something, get away from anything, find a nice spot, sit down, start reading. People ask what I'm reading all the time. Hey, what are you reading this time? And, you know, and things like that, too. So it's always great when I get these new things to check out. But thank you so much for coming and hang out with us. Do you have any final words you'd like to say to everybody at home? Craig Meriwether: You know, I just say, you know, once again, I already said it, but I think what is important for us as human beings, what you practice, you get better at. And so notice in your life what you're practicing and it may, you know, may be anxiety and fear and anger and know that you can turn that around. And, and, know, part of the process is practicing gratitude and joy and happiness. There's a practice to it. So when you practice, you get better at it. So what do you want in your life? Peter: I love it. I love you. Thank you so much guys. That was Craig. other guys. And with that being said, we're gonna wrap up this episode of Pete for his anxiety. You know where to find me? I'm Pete for his anxiety. Yeah. On X all the way down to Tik Tok. I'm on Spotify all the way down to Pandora radio. And as always say, it costs nothing absolutely to be kind to somebody. One kind act you could do could save someone's life or hell you can make their day. I'm Pete for his anxiety son. I'll see you and don't ask how your day is today. Say, Hey, how's your mental health?