Latest / This Week in Westchester: The Podcast / Westchester, Explained 33: The Legend of Halloween in Sleepy Hollow
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- 0:05SPEAKER_01: Hi Westchester.
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: I'm Westchester County Government Communications Director Catherine Chaffee.
- 0:11SPEAKER_01: And as an extension of This Week in Westchester, the podcast, we welcome you to Westchester Explained.
- 0:17SPEAKER_01: In this episode, we head to one of Westchester County's most legendary destinations, where Halloween isn't just a holiday, it's an entire season, a way of life.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: We sit down with Village of Sleepy Hollow Mayor Marjorie Shu to explore how this historic Hudson River village has embraced the legend of the Headless Horseman and transformed itself into a world-famous Halloween destination, attracting visitors from across the country and across the globe.
- 0:46SPEAKER_01: We take a closer look at the festivals, parades, haunted traditions, and unique experiences that bring a Sleepy Hollow to life each fall while exploring the village's fascinating history, vibrant downtown, growing businesses, and cultural attractions.
- 1:01SPEAKER_01: We also discuss what makes Sleepy Hollow such a special place to live and visit, and how its remarkable transformation is creating new opportunities for Westchester residents.
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: Join us as we discover the history, the mystery, and the magic of Sleepy Hollow, and why it matters, because this is Westchester Explained.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: So let's begin.
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: So we have a very special guest inside the podcast studio.
- 1:32SPEAKER_01: Very timely, very special, a good friend to Westchester County, Marjorie Shu, who is now the mayor of Sleepy Hollow, which I'm so excited that you're the mayor of Sleepy Hollow and what a fun community to lead.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: And the perfect month to do it.
- 1:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's um uh it's a delight to be uh invited to your podcast, Catherine, and um to catch up with you.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: It's been a while.
- 1:56SPEAKER_00: So yeah, uh Sleepy Hollow, um, as the New York Times article this week said, is hardly sleepy.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: We're uh hardly sleepy, yeah.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very busy and very exciting.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: There's lots going on.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: And unlike when uh I was a kid and Halloween was one night, uh Halloween is now a whole season.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: It's amazing.
- 2:21SPEAKER_01: So Slit for those people, I mean, I can't imagine anybody who doesn't know this, but you never know.
- 2:27SPEAKER_01: Um, Sleepy Hollow really leaned into, first of all, the name Sleepy Hollow.
- 2:32SPEAKER_01: It's no longer North Terrytown, really leaned into this.
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess it was about a decade ago or so.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to remember.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: Was it more than that that it changed the name and went really full steam into the Sleepy Hollow Legend of Sleepy Hollow?
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: Well, we are celebrating our 30th anniversary of the name change from North from North Terrytown to Sleepy Hollow on December 11th.
- 2:57SPEAKER_00: So 30 years, can you imagine?
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I I guess I'm aging myself because I remember when it happened, which is wild.
- 3:05SPEAKER_01: Um so what was the reason, first of all, that the name change occurred?
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't actually know because um we haven't been in Sleepy Hollow for 30 plus years, but I think what precipitated it was there was a General Motors plant on the shores of Sleepy Hollow.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: And um, so we were a manufacturing village, and you know the the General Motors Dodge caravan, I'm told, was uh built right here in Sleepy Hollow.
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: And so when that plant closed, it was a huge hit to our um finances because we were no longer collecting uh tax revenues from General Motors.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: And so the property, 95 acres of it, was sold to a developer.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: And um so it was in 1996 that people decided to change the name to Sleepy Hollow A la The Legend, which was written 200 years ago by uh Washington Irving, who is buried in our Sleepy Hollow Cemetery.
- 4:18SPEAKER_00: So I kind of joke that um, you know, when residents are complaining about the traffic and the congestion and parking, that really it's it's social media influencers that are all over our town posing in their cute pumpkin sweaters, and as well as those people 30 years ago who rebranded us to Sleepy Hollow, which was brilliant.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: And um, now we're a thriving community, and uh so we have them to thank.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: And of course, um, you know, there's some inconveniences to local residents and uh requires a little bit of patience.
- 5:01SPEAKER_00: So I get it.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 5:03SPEAKER_01: Well, thank goodness they rebranded it because it is just, I mean, the sleepy hollow today, like we were saying earlier, is not the sleepy hollow that I grew up with.
- 5:13SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's just so lovely and so charming.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: And I love that you've completely leaned into Halloween.
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: What are some of the most exciting things that occur in Sleepy Hollow in the during the Halloween season?
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: Well, we we have activities like uh for six weeks this this fall.
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: So um we kicked off the season with a fabulous uh Sleepy Hollow music festival.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: That was on October 3rd.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: It was a gorgeous fall day, had great bands from uh, you know, everyone's uh favorites uh across the generations.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: Um there were so many local people that enjoyed it, as well as visitors from all over food trucks, um, kids' activities, the organizers really thought of everything.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: And then the following weekend we had the stand-up paddleboard witches.
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: It's such a cute event.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, interrupted you.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: Stand-up witches, gosh.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: The stand-up witches, which um who knew uh would become also a huge um attraction for for folks, and um, likewise were food trucks and live music and just um a great party scene.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: And then we had our hay ride this past Saturday night.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: Um Mother Nature has rained on a couple of our events, so we've had some cancellations, which I know is disappointing to ticket holders.
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: We've had to move our street there from the end of September to November 8th.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: But we're staring into um uh more fun ahead in the upcoming weekends with um the big Terrytown parade on Saturday, the 24th.
- 7:07SPEAKER_00: And that keeps getting bigger and bigger every year.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: Um and then we have uh a make a wish walk as well as our Sleepy Hollow 10K on Sunday.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: There's an Oktoberfest on Sunday, and then um wrapping up the season, we also have Halloween on a Saturday, which um is exciting and a little bit um uh frightening because we're already yeah, you're already so busy.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: We're already so busy, but you know, we've got Food Truck Friday this this coming Friday, um, and then we have our um really um amazing Revolutionary 250 event on November 1st, which will be on the the banks of the Hudson River with a boat landing and a reconciliation ceremony, and then um it's gonna be a multimedia um celebration of um our communities coming together.
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: And uh the organizers have have really just been so creative and inclusive, and um community members have um sewn two quilts uh contributed with squares from different community members, um, one that they're gonna donate to Terrytown and another commemorative quilt for Sleepy Hollow.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: So the the whole season wraps up kind of on November 8th with the street fair that had been rescheduled from the end of September, and then on November 9th, we can take a breath.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: So I'll tell you a funny story.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: A couple of weeks ago, I was um at the office and I, and you know, it was Friday night, and I thought, oh, I'm gonna run over to Sleepy Hollow, stop at this new candy shop that I am completely obsessed with called the Village Confectionery.
- 9:18SPEAKER_01: It is just anybody who hasn't been there, you have to go, and it's just the most charming, delicious, wonderful store.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: And so I thought I'll run over there, I'll pick up some chocolates and candies, and I'll bring them home to my boys.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: I could not believe how many people were in the streets on the sidewalks in costume, having a great time.
- 9:39SPEAKER_01: And this was at 5:30 on a Friday.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: It wasn't even late.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: It was absolutely packed.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: Um, I was blown away.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: I could not believe how many people were there and how adorable they looked in their costumes and how much fun they were having.
- 9:54SPEAKER_01: What do you think it is about Sleepy Hollow?
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's the Headless Horseman, maybe it's the legend.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: What is it about Sleepy Hollow that you think captivates so many people?
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: Well, I think hopefully we're in a time where we're moving from kind of material um uh desires to more experiential desires.
- 10:19SPEAKER_00: And so Sleepy Hollow, I think, has a real sense of place.
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: We have the history with you know, the General Motors plant and the Sleepy Hollow Cemetery, the Headless Horseman.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Everybody is always so excited when the horseman comes riding through um any event, whether it's Plus of July or uh something that's Halloween related.
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, the cemetery has all these famous figures from history um from the Revolutionary War.
- 10:56SPEAKER_00: And, you know, we have nature with our river walk, the old Croken Croton Aqueduct, and um the Rockefeller Preserves.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: Um the cemetery has culture and architecture and history, and then you know, our downtown um businesses are so diverse.
- 11:17SPEAKER_00: We are a majority Latino community.
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: So there's Ecuadorian food, Peruvian, Dominican, um, Mexican, and then we also have um some um newer businesses like um well Bridgeville Taverns have been there a long time with this much spectacular view.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: Um but right next door, yes, uh Great Beer Selection and Um Vista, and then right next door is a new North River Oyster Bar, which if you haven't been, um delicious cocktails and seafood, and also has a roof deck with a spectacular view of the river and the Tappensea or Mario M.
- 12:01SPEAKER_00: Coral Bridge.
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: Um and then uh further up we have um, you know, the Beak Manail House, Hollywood pizza, Casoleto pizza, lots of pizza.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: Um, and we just opened um uh we had a ribbon cutting a couple weeks ago, actually on um Columbus Day for the new ice cream shop, which is called ice cream, very um sleepy hollow appropriate.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: On brand.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: Yep, yeah.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: And you know, we have uh businesses that like Santorini that's been there for 30 years serving delicious big food and then Los Andes, um, the Chilean bakery that actually ships Chilean baked goods all over the country because there aren't that many Chilean bakeries, uh, apparently.
- 12:47SPEAKER_00: So those are um, you know, stalwart long time businesses, and then of course the new businesses like the village confectionery, which is such a social media sensation.
- 13:01SPEAKER_01: And Kate But it lives up to the hype.
- 13:03SPEAKER_01: Um it lives up to the hype.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: It's not just the social media, and then you get there and you're disappointed.
- 13:09SPEAKER_01: Like you get there, absolutely better than you think it's gonna be.
- 13:13SPEAKER_01: And Kate, the owner, who is an Austin mom, I just have to throw that out there, is wonderful.
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: She's amazing, she's great.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: Kate is so kind and thoughtful, and um she's a social media sensation because of her background um in TV and films.
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: So she's a master storyteller.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: I even got to uh participate in one of her reels, but she's uh inclusive of all her um peers in Sleepy Hollows.
- 13:49SPEAKER_00: So she's always featuring her neighbors, her other um store owners.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: And um yeah, we are very, very happy to have uh the Village Confectionery, which, you know, the the store is beautiful, and there's every kind of candy you could ever want, from the penny candies to candies from all over the world.
- 14:14SPEAKER_00: Um, everything's fresh and delicious and um uh everyone it's irresistible.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: It's just uh such a great immersive feel-good experience.
- 14:25SPEAKER_01: Yeah, agreed.
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: They um for anybody going, I will say that they have a chocolate caramel marshmallow swirl.
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: It's in the case, you have to ask for it.
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: They are delicious.
- 14:37SPEAKER_01: Buy extra because you'll eat them.
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: They're so good.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: They're so good.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: They're so good.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: Yes, they're doing really well.
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, so we've had a couple ribbon cuttings in Sleepy Hollows since I became mayor.
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, I think it's that sense of place, and people are happy and um the hayride block party this past Saturday, same thing.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: Um, the lines were a little long and there were some delays, but you know, people were just uh having a good time, enjoying the music and all the food and um being together.
- 15:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it's amazing.
- 15:17SPEAKER_01: And you mentioned a little bit about your most famous resident, but we'll talk about him a little bit more.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: So the headless horseman is obviously the star of the show.
- 15:25SPEAKER_01: You're the mayor, but he's the star of the show.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: Um yes.
- 15:30SPEAKER_01: And you're right, every time he shows up at a parade, no matter the season, I mean, he when he goes on the football field, oh my gosh.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: It's just wild.
- 15:40SPEAKER_01: Um, I do want to know, like, who who is, I know he's real and it's not, you know, a regular person, but like if it were a regular person, who who owns the horse?
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: Who is this guy behind or gal behind the headless horseman who's riding around town?
- 15:57SPEAKER_01: I love it so much.
- 15:59SPEAKER_00: Well, um, I hope I'm not um uh telling me.
- 16:03SPEAKER_01: Are we allowed to talk about this?
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: Well, there's such demand for um the legend that uh I think multiple people actually play the role.
- 16:15SPEAKER_00: Um there's one uh sometimes the the horseman appears on their own without the horse.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: And um uh so they're walking around the riverwalk, and everyone loves to take their picture with that um uh horseman.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: And then there's a horseman that shows up on their own with the horse, and then there's also um a group of horses and horsemen that uh will sometimes accompany the headless horsemen.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: So they'll come thundering down the street with three horses and apes following be uh behind them.
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: So it's um, you know, we're full of surprises.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: You never know which horseman you're gonna get.
- 17:05SPEAKER_01: It's really, I mean, for those of you listening who have never um been in Sleepy Hollow when the horseman arrives, it is, I think it's it's one of my favorite things in the world.
- 17:16SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's such a treat, and people have such a strong reaction to it because here you it's this massive, beautiful black horse and this headless horseman, you know, coming down the street on this beautiful horse.
- 17:29SPEAKER_01: And it is really like something out of a movie.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: It is, it feels like you're in a movie.
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: It's just wild.
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: It's really, really special.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I always joke, well, we love all of the high schools and all of the high school mascots in Westchester County.
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: Um, my personal opinion, you guys have the best mascot.
- 17:49SPEAKER_01: The horseman.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: And when he comes, like I said, when he comes onto the football fields, oh my gosh, there's no how do you compete with that?
- 17:55SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't know.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: No, we we do uh hands down how the best mascot.
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: Last year we had um the best high school football team that went all the way to the uh dome in Syracuse.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: So that was uh an amazing way for me to kick off um my married ship.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: So uh there's always something fun going on, something to celebrate in Sleepy Hollow.
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: And I mean, we're we're a global destination now.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: No matter where I go, people know Sleepy Hollow and the legend of um the headless horseman.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: And when you walk around in the fall, you meet visitors from all over.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: So I've met people from Israel, UK, Sweden, Mexico.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: This past Saturday at our hayride, we had a visitor from Colombia, Los Angeles.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: Um, so our new assistant village administrator for a Hayride actually got a map of the US so that people could put a pin on the map where they're from.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: And um, we talked about how we we actually need a global map because we have so many visitors.
- 19:11SPEAKER_00: And no, no matter where we go, people want to talk about Sleepy Hollow.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Well, I was gonna ask, you know, when you're traveling and you people say, you know, oh, where are you from?
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: And you say Sleepy Hollow, what is the reaction you get?
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, going through uh a TSA checkline in um Colorado, the the TSA agent will be like, oh my goodness, Sleepy Hollow, I love Sleepy Hollow, I love the movie.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Um, and then this past August, we were actually on the train in um the UK.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: We were taking a five and a half hour train from Balmouth um port to London.
- 19:50SPEAKER_00: And I thought, oh, this will be a nice relaxing time for me to catch up on my reading and gaze at the English countryside.
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: No, my husband, who's my number one uh publicist, um let people know that I was the mayor, and uh I did not get to read at all.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: People were just so, so uh excited to talk about Sleepy Hollow and the movie and um everything that's going on in the US is uh very interesting to our uh foreign compatriots right now.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: Yes, well that's that's a different podcast, right?
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: It's a whole other podcast.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 20:30SPEAKER_01: So the the the um, I mean, you have so many great restaurants, great bars, great shops.
- 20:36SPEAKER_01: You also have historic Huts and Valleys, um, Phillipsburg Manor, which is a destination for a lot of Westchester kids to go on field trips.
- 20:45SPEAKER_01: Um, but for people who are listening to the podcast, maybe they're not familiar with the there's a couple of great places that you have there.
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: So you have Phillipsburg Manor, and then you have across the street, you have the cemetery where you can find the names of the characters from the Legend of Sleepy Hollow buried there.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: We're gonna do buried in quotes.
- 21:03SPEAKER_01: Are they buried there?
- 21:04SPEAKER_01: Are they still walking around?
- 21:05SPEAKER_01: We don't know, but we don't know the names.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: Can you tell us a bit more about that?
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: Thank you for bringing up Historic Hudson Valley.
- 21:13SPEAKER_00: There are they're such a great um community partner for us.
- 21:17SPEAKER_00: Um, we're particularly proud of Phillipsburg Manor, obviously, since it's in the heart of our village and they have um other locations.
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: One of my other favorites is Sunnyside in Irvington.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: Which um, you know, was the home of Washington Irving.
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: And um what I love about Phillipsburg Manor is um it's you know, it's been there for hundreds of years, and there's docents that will tell you about the history and the whole economy that um Phillips created with migrant farmers from the Netherlands uh working the land.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: And growing wheat and apple trees that were then made into hard cider and hard tack, and then were um shipped down to the Caribbean, where he had a plantation that was growing sugar.
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: And so there was this whole kind of economy that he created.
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: And of course, there were slaves.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: There were slaves that were living in Sleepy Hollow.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: And so if you visit, um, when you visit, um, they'll take you to, you know, the gardens that the slaves had planted, the foods they ate, the herbs and the medicines, and um you walk through the the manor house and you see the I guess three floors, and you see um the the bottom basement level where the slaves were trying butter, and that's where they slept and ate.
- 22:56SPEAKER_00: And then as you go up um the levels, you see the bedrooms of the family and um the little store that they had where the the migrant farmers would purchase all of their supplies.
- 23:12SPEAKER_00: So he had this whole closed ecosystem where he kind of controlled all aspects of um the lives and the um economy, and he owned land, I guess, from the Croton Reservoir all the way down to uh Yonkers.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: So he was a land baron, he built the old Ludge Church, which um again is another um beautiful attraction.
- 23:40SPEAKER_00: We also have the old Croton Aqueduct, and if you get a chance, you should go up to Austining and do the tour of the weir, um, which is a fascinating um history.
- 23:56SPEAKER_00: The whole uh OCA was built in the space of five years from uh the Croton Dam all the way down to where the New York Public Library is.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: And um, you know, you you hear about the engineering and the manual labor that was done by Irish immigrants.
- 24:17SPEAKER_00: So we have such a rich history in in Westchester and the Hudson Valley, and certainly worth a day trip for um people and all the the international visitors as well.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
- 24:34SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for chatting with me today.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: Um, is there anything else you want to share with us?
- 24:41SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to mention that um certainly come visit.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: Um this weekend is going to be very crowded on Saturday with the Terrytown uh Halloween parade.
- 24:52SPEAKER_00: Please take public transportation, so either Metro North or the B line.
- 24:59SPEAKER_00: Um and there's plenty of signs up, but we have created a new event parking lot in the um East Parcel as we call it.
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: It's on Continental Avenue, and um so that'll be uh an opportunity for anyone that isn't able to take public transportation.
- 25:23SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a little bit of a walk, but um there's plenty of space for people that aren't able to drive.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: And please allow yourself extra time to um to get here because traffic is going to be bad.
- 25:37SPEAKER_00: And um there's a lot of kids and uh people running around.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: So drive carefully and especially on Halloween night, um, you know, thank you to all of our residents for sharing the village with all the visitors and trick-or-treaters, and uh just drive carefully and and look out for the goblins and the headless horsemen.
- 26:03SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you again and happy Halloween.
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Catherine.
- 26:08SPEAKER_00: I'll see you uh at the village confectioner.
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: For sure.
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: I'll be eating all the chocolate.