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Sarah Hartsfield_ Black Widow Part 8_ The Trap Closes _ TCWT Podcast_S6 E34 _ · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to True Crime and Wine Time. I'm Terry.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Lama.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight, we are uncorking the truth behind one of the
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  Speaker 1: darkest crimes and breaking it down together with you.
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  Speaker 3: One case, one conversation, and one or maybe two glasses
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  Speaker 3: of wine to take the edge off. It's time to
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  Speaker 3: get comfortable and double check those locks before we get started.
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  Speaker 1: So, let's take a sip and dive in.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, hello, hello, hello. Happy Thursday evening to you.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Thursday. How are you this beautiful day? Good.
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  Speaker 2: Is it the weekend yet? Is it vacation time yet?
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  Speaker 1: It's not, but I've got it so much closer. so
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  Speaker 1: much closer.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Hello, Holly.
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: But if I have to be honest, I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to Sunday night or Monday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that?
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  Speaker 1: Because then we get over and all this training and
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  Speaker 1: all that will be done.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes. But it's all good. Oh, my goodness. Well, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back to True Crime and Wine Time. We're here
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  Speaker 2: for part eight of of the Sarah Hartsfeld case tonight. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I did that out of order, but that's okay. It's Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: It is Thursday. And we're not drinking. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, well, okay, good. I'm glad somebody is. I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I am because I needed some energy and motivation, so
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  Speaker 1: I grabbed one.
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  Speaker 2: Fair. Well, as I meant to say, before we begin...
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  Speaker 2: in general? I mean, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Just in general or did I do one? Did I
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  Speaker 1: do one today and I don't remember? I'm like going,
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  Speaker 1: did I? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Hello, Mary. Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 1: Is Big Brother not on? Because Mary's here.
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  Speaker 2: No, it should be. Maybe she's watching both.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you're watching both. Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Holly. Cause I was like, I hope I
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  Speaker 1: didn't do that from the community office and I don't remember. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you.
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  Speaker 2: It's been one of those weeks for both of us.
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  Speaker 2: Like really.
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  Speaker 1: A week. Do you realize September's almost over?
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Cause somebody mentioned me. They're like, well, yeah, next week's
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  Speaker 1: the 20th. I said, no, it's not. It's like the
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  Speaker 1: fifth or sixth.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And they were like, where have you been living?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, in my head. In our own little
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  Speaker 2: fantasy world. Yeah. I know. It's only 10 days till
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  Speaker 2: my birthday.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: 13 days till I go see Smashing Pumpkins. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: You more excited about your birthday or Smashing Pumpkins?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely Smashing Pumpkins. I probably am not going to do
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  Speaker 2: anything on my birthday, which is how I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Which is how you like it. Which is how I
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  Speaker 2: like it. It's on a Sunday, which is a great
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  Speaker 2: day for just, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But they're decorating the house with balloons, confetti, and all
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  Speaker 1: of that stuff, right? Or is that just me that
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  Speaker 1: demands those things?
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  Speaker 2: That's just you. That's just you. But anyway, as I
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  Speaker 2: was saying, we are here tonight to discuss part eight
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  Speaker 2: out of nine of our Sarah Hartsfield coverage. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: We're almost finally into the end. Of this multi-part series
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  Speaker 2: that we've been covering for quite a while now. I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy it's almost over.
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  Speaker 1: But I have some bad news for everybody. What? It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get better in the last two episodes. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: told you the worst yet.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Who needs sleep, Mary? It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'll write you a tardy pass. Hello, buddy. Hello, hello, hello. So.
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  Speaker 1: tonight you're not drinking but i am because i needed
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  Speaker 1: something so i'm having good old reliable saint supri but
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  Speaker 1: this time it's the sauvignon blanc instead of the rosé.
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  Speaker 2: Oh nice i love a good sauvignon blanc it's my.
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  Speaker 1: One glass and i should we should be done with
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  Speaker 1: the pod by then and then i will be crawling
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  Speaker 1: into bed and hopefully going to meet the saint.
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  Speaker 2: Man nice nice well i am just drinking a Mountain
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  Speaker 2: root beer from Skyline Chili.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, root beer.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And it's in a styrofoam cup, which I know
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  Speaker 2: is horrible for the environment, but pop just tastes so
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  Speaker 2: much better out of a styrofoam cup. It does taste different,
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 1: I like A & W root beer in a can
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  Speaker 1: that is so cold it's almost frozen.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, like it's slushy. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, Mary, you've tried telling. Oh, I can't read that.
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  Speaker 1: I tried telling my boss I have court in order
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  Speaker 1: to get out of meetings that didn't work. These people
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  Speaker 1: aren't understanding what's important in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Girl, same.
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  Speaker 1: How rude. I run into the same thing. And it's like, really?
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  Speaker 2: Did you tell them that they don't let you go?
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  Speaker 2: You're going to have the babies tonight, Mary?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Up there, Sammy, did someone say Christmas girl?
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  Speaker 2: No, but see, this is a little sidetracked. I'm sorry, listeners,
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  Speaker 2: but I have been trying to pick out some, you know,
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  Speaker 2: new shirts and stuff from Amazon, which ordering clothes online
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  Speaker 2: is a panic inducing. I don't like it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what size I wear all different sizes
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  Speaker 2: and all different things. I don't know. Right. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it's caused me a panic. I put like a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of stuff on my wishlist and Like, I'll figure it
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  Speaker 2: out later. But you know what it was, Sammy? A
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  Speaker 2: lot of Halloween and Christmas shirts. And I thought of you.
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  Speaker 1: I think of Sammy every time because I have a
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  Speaker 1: high school friend who is crazy about Christmas. And she's
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  Speaker 1: already starting to pull out her decorations because she remakes
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  Speaker 1: her wreaths and some certain things every year. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my freaking God, we're not even to October 1st.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you people?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I have to say I love it. See, the
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  Speaker 1: red is giving off Christmas vibes for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. But I was like, oh, Sam's going to
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  Speaker 2: be so happy because I don't do themed holiday things.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll just share some of the ones I plan
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  Speaker 2: on getting with you, Sam, after I go through all
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  Speaker 2: of them. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And Sam, since I didn't put up Christmas trees last year,
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting them all up this year.
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  Speaker 2: All of them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So now all of them. So like Lama told
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  Speaker 1: us last week in part seven, we walked back through
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  Speaker 1: the doors of the Chambers County Courthouse as the prosecution
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  Speaker 1: delivered a relentless two day evidentiary evidentiary sledgehammer to the
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  Speaker 1: defense's case.
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  Speaker 2: We watched ER doctors and neurologists prove that Joe Hartsfeld
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  Speaker 2: didn't suffer a routine diabetic crash. His brain was starved
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  Speaker 2: of oxygen and glucose for 20 agonizing hours while Sarah
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  Speaker 2: sat on the couch just monitoring his alarms as one does.
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  Speaker 1: We saw the state unleash an absolute bombshell when a
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota detective took the stand to reveal that the fatal
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: 2018 shooting of Sarah's ex-fiance, David Bragg, had officially been
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  Speaker 1: reopened as an active homicide investigation.
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  Speaker 2: And then we watched a cross-country parade of 14 witnesses
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  Speaker 2: of ex-husbands, former friends, federal agents, and family members exposing
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  Speaker 2: a terrifying decades-long pattern of retaliatory house fires, stage poisonings,
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  Speaker 2: and interstate murder-for-hire plots. Sarah really does.
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  Speaker 1: She checked every box. I'm still in awe that a
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  Speaker 1: female arsonist, because that is so rare. Better they're just
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  Speaker 1: good and don't get caught. She wasn't good. Well, she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't good. Now, today we're are diving right back into
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  Speaker 1: that Texas courtroom for part eight. The trap closes. Over
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  Speaker 1: the next hour, we are taking you through the devastating
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  Speaker 1: final movement of the state's case. We're going to walk
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  Speaker 1: you through the moment Sarah's own children, her four adult
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  Speaker 1: daughters and son step onto the witness stand back to back,
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  Speaker 1: refusing to make eye contact with their mother as they
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  Speaker 1: shatter her self-defense claims and expose her attempts to bribe
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  Speaker 1: and silence them and recall a lifetime under a reign
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  Speaker 1: of pure terror.
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  Speaker 2: Buckle up guys, it's rough. It is. Then we'll take
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  Speaker 2: you through the micro-level digital forensic breakdown that permanently dismantled
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  Speaker 2: Sarah's defense. you'll see how lead detective Skylar Rocks transformed
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  Speaker 2: an iPhone into an unassailable witness by using Apple StepData,
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  Speaker 2: purged browser searches, and encrypted access keys to prove that
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  Speaker 2: while Joe lay comatose, Sarah was actively pacing the house,
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  Speaker 2: job hunting, and harvesting his digital estate hours before ever
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  Speaker 2: dialing 911.
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  Speaker 1: So refill those glasses. Settle in, everyone. 30 years of
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  Speaker 1: calculated manipulation are about to crumble under the weight of
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  Speaker 1: an unassailable digital and human testimony. And the trap is
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  Speaker 1: finally springing shut on Sarah Hartsfield. Clank a mousetrap.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Monday morning brought day six of the trial, and
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  Speaker 2: with it, a brutal, cascading execution of the state's case.
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  Speaker 2: The prosecution stripped away Sarah Hartsfield's clinical, detached offense by
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: unleashing the very people who knew her architecture best. Her
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: surviving family, her own children, and the medical friends she
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  Speaker 2: tried to manipulate. By the time the afternoon sun faded,
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  Speaker 2: the jury was left staring not at a grieving widow,
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  Speaker 2: but at a serial arsonist and calculating apex predator whose
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  Speaker 2: own daughters refused to look her in the eye.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, guys. That says a lot. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That says a lot. The state called its 23rd witness,
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  Speaker 1: Joe's aunt, Nancy Castaneda. Castaneda, Nancy testified that while Sarah
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: initially put on a sweet front, she quickly began downing
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  Speaker 1: Joe on Facebook. By late December 2022, Joe called Nancy
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  Speaker 1: sounding deeply relieved. He was quietly opening a secret separate
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: bank account in Huntsville to divert his payroll away from
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  Speaker 1: their joint account. He was planning to leave Sarah. Nancy
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  Speaker 1: stated firmly.
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  Speaker 2: Nancy then exposed the deadly medical contradiction Sarah spun in
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  Speaker 2: the hospital lobby on January 7th. Sarah had casually admitted
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  Speaker 2: to her that despite Joe's Dexcom alarm blaring nonstop throughout
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  Speaker 2: the night, she ignored it because she, quote, assumed he
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  Speaker 2: was walking around because apparently that's what that alarm means.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just means they're up walking around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as one does. A life-threatening alarm. It's fine. Sarah
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  Speaker 2: then noted she had prepared a massive carbohydrate-heavy rice casserole
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  Speaker 2: for him, which is basically a clinical death sentence for
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  Speaker 2: an uncontrolled diabetic. On cross-examination, Nancy added that Sarah had
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: also casually mentioned giving Joe a glass of water that
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: morning that, quote, didn't taste right. Interesting. Didn't you have
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: that theory last week?
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  Speaker 1: I did. Now my question is, does she really think
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: she's doing herself any favors by opening her mouth?
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  Speaker 2: It's like she can't help but gloat.
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  Speaker 1: She can't.
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  Speaker 2: Everything. She's done this with every single thing she's ever done.
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  Speaker 3: Wild.
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  Speaker 2: Wild.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the historical pattern of fire returned to the
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: stand with Angela Nornschild, the current wife of Sarah's first husband, Titus.
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  Speaker 1: Angela transported the jury back to a terrifying night in 1995, guys.
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  Speaker 1: So while babysitting a sick child inside a fringe trailer
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  Speaker 1: at 3 a.m., Angela smelled thick gasoline. Walking outside, she
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: found a fuel can and gasoline aggressively splashed across the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: entire exterior of the trailer. Looking up the street, she
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  Speaker 1: locked eyes with a figure springing into the dark. It
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  Speaker 1: was none other than Sarah Hartsfield.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the digital and behavioral cover-up collapsed further with Ivan Boots,
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  Speaker 2: a close friend of Joe's and a professional nurse. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Boots testified that within 48 hours of Joe's admission, Sarah
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: began aggressively messaging him to push a fraudulent stroke narrative,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: even sending him home security clips to ask if he
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: could spot a facial droop. Okay, but she also didn't
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  Speaker 2: show to doctors, apparently, so okay, sure, why not?
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  Speaker 1: And why are you going back and looking at that
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  Speaker 1: when your husband is laying in the hospital? fighting for
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  Speaker 1: his life.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Weird.
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  Speaker 1: But as a nurse, Boots grew instantly suspicious. He knew Joe,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: who routinely passed strict prison and workplace drug screens, would
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: never willingly ingest the benzodiazepines found in his hospital toxicology report.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Sarah casually explained away the benzos by admitting she was
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: out of volume and couldn't sleep.
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  Speaker 2: Which doesn't make sense for Joe still.
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  Speaker 1: No, it still doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Now, her panic peaked when she activated a secret cash
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: phone to communicate, explicitly telling Boots she feared the police
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: were tracking her. Then came the ultimate red flag. Sarah
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  Speaker 2: looked at her medical friend and pointedly asked, is it
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: possible to find the exact level of insulin in the blood?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God, could you be any more just suspicious?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad she's stupid, but yeah, it's like, girl. Now, next,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Sarah's third husband, Christopher Donahue, took the stand. A 17-year
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: military veteran who served alongside Sarah. Christopher detailed her precise
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: lethal training as a military intelligence analyst and pharmacy technician,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: proving she possessed expert knowledge of lethal dosages. She knew
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: what she was doing.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Now, Christopher corroborated the 2021 FBI investigation, recalling
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the moment his daughter Ashley called him in a panic, crying,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Mom's trying to have Heather killed. He testified that Sarah
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and her boyfriend, David George... had already purchased a black
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Honda Accord and a handgun to execute the contract. Then
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Christopher dropped a massive bum on the jury, telling them
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: during their marriage, Sarah had explicitly boasted to him that
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: she was the one who burned her grandmother's farmhouse to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the ground. Ouch. All these confessions everywhere. She's such a... Again,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's a bragger, a flex, and to make
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: people fear her.
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  Speaker 1: I agree. Now, the emotional spine of the entire trial
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: broke during the afternoon session as Sarah's four children were
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: called to testify against her. Taking the stand sequentially, her
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: adult daughters, Ashley and Hannah, Emma and her son, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: who completely refused to make eye contact with their mother,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: their bodies visibly trembling with the decades-old fear.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, no kid, even as an adult, wants to
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: testify against their parent, no matter how much of a
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: shit they are.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And having to air everything that you went through on
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the stand. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They're very, very brave doing what they did. It's not easy.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: It's not easy at all. Now, Ashley Donahue testified that
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Sarah's relationship with Joe was a hyper accelerated financial trap.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: During Christmas 2022, Sarah flew into a rage when Joe
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: didn't react enthusiastically. enough to a holiday dinner, aggressively snatching
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: his Christmas gifts back and declaring that she was done
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: with him. Oh, what a nightmare to be married.
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  Speaker 1: Did she need a parade and confetti?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you need that much validation?
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  Speaker 2: Veldation or was it about control?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Control.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Since it was a holiday and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley then read aloud text messages Sarah sent her at
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  Speaker 1: noon on January 7th while Joe was actively dying in
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the master bedroom. Sarah sent a video of Joe's deep
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: hypoxic grunting, writing callously, Joe's snoring chased me to the couch.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Like, okay. Following Joe's death, Sarah left voicemails instructing
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Ashley to decline to comment to Chambers County detectives, bragging
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: that she wasn't worried. Even from behind bars, Sarah sent
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Ashley a four-page instructional blueprint that ordering her to launch
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a fraudulent GoFundMe campaign to pay her criminal defense attorneys.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah's lawyers, completely paralyzed by the optic of a mother
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: exploiting her child, declined to cross-examine her, which is not
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: surprising at all. And they're all, you know, grown adults now.
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  Speaker 3: Adults.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, no. And Ashley, you know, she's really the star.
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  Speaker 1: She's the hero.
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  Speaker 2: So many different, you know, she had to call her
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: dad to tell him about the murder for hire plot.
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  Speaker 2: She went through a lot.
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  Speaker 1: She's the one that called and told her dad that
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  Speaker 1: mom had moved another man into his bedroom while he was, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's a good person.
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  Speaker 2: And then she left. Then, you know, Sarah left and
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  Speaker 2: then just left her to raise her. Left her to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: raise the kids. She was dying of brain cancer.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: So, Ashley, I hope you're doing great, girl. Yes. All
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of the kids.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: All of the kids.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I hope you're all doing well.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Then, 21-year-old nursing student Hannah Donahue took the stand, her
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: voice shaking as she confirmed, that at just 15 years old,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: David George told her, your mom wants me to kill
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: your dad's wife.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. It was Hannah. Yeah. It was Hannah
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: that told Chris that Ashley was the affair to Chris.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Hannah testified she personally overheard Sarah issuing a ruthless ultimatum
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to George. He was barred from returning home unless he
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: took care of the hit.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Hannah then shattered the 2018 Minnesota self-defense narrative. She testified
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that on the day David Bragg was slaughtered, Sarah deliberately
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: forced her back to the house, armed herself with two handguns,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: handed Hannah one to hide, and commanded, if anything happens,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: call 911. Minutes later, the house erupted in gunfire. Hannah
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: ran inside to find Bragg bleeding out on the floor
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and Sarah standing at the top of the stairs with
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: a vacant, empty look in her eyes. So that's some
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: more to that story.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was looking into her heart because
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have one. Now, afterwards, Sarah cornered her teenager,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: ordering her to lie to homicide detectives. When Hannah refused...
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Sarah began illegally drugging her daughter, forcing her to ingest
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: unprescribed muscle relaxers, diet pills, and sedatives because her emotions
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: were too crazy. I am still terrified of my mother.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Hannah wept to the completely silent jury.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, she drugged her kids and she very well,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: look at what happened to Joe and I mean, even
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: her other husbands, she, or well, whomever, any of the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: men in her life, several of them, she pushed prescription
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: drugs on them to do things. Then up next was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: 19-year-old Emma Donahue, who corroborated the absolute reign of terror
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: her sisters expressed, testifying that she had spent years hiding
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the murder-for-hire plot out of pure physical fear of her mother.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Now, Sarah's son, Ryan Donahue, closed out the family line,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: testifying that Sarah had recently called him from jail, explicitly
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: instructing him to break the law by ignoring the state's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: subpoena to testify. So she wanted him to get in trouble.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Mother of the year, hey kids, lie to all the authorities.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: set up a fraud GoFundMe, cover up this murder for me.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Just what a disgusting and despicable mother. I can't imagine.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: And that's not even the worst thing she did to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: those children. No, it's not. Now, the day closed with
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the raw arrogance of the defendant trailing her into her
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: jail cell. Former Chambers County Jail Sergeant Casey Cain said,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: testified that during Sarah's February 2023 booking, Sarah demanded to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: look at her formal arrest warrant, pointing at the letters I-N-D.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Now, Kane explained that it stood for a grand jury
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: indictment for murder. Sarah sneered, looking directly at the jailer
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and uttered a phrase that would seal her fate. There
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is no way They could have found that much evidence
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: against me.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Well, ma'am, you did the one thing that doesn't even
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: medically make sense.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, girl.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Now, next on the stand was Captain Todd Harris of
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the Jail Division, who authenticated thousands of recorded jail calls
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: and text kiosk transcripts, showing Sarah actively negotiating stories with
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: local media outlets. Well, Dan Terry, she might talk to you.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: She's so eager to be talking all the time.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: She hasn't been talking since she got convicted, but.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: She hasn't?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Now, with the sheer volume of incriminating jailhouse data threatening
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: to spill over, the judge sent the jury home early
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to allow the legal teams to fight over the boundaries
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: of the digital exhibits. Well, maybe she learned her lesson
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: that that's right. They record everything when you're in jail.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And especially when you're on jail for murder, they're listening
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and reading. Okay.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's the new attorneys working on her appeal
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that have told her we are not doing this unless
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you shut up.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Now on day seven of the trial, the prosecution prepared
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to pivot from historical horrors to the micro level digital timelines.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of the crime itself. Over the course of the day,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the state transformed the internal storage of an iPhone into
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: an unassailable digital eyewitness, proving that while Joe Hartsfield was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: slipping into an irreversible, agonizing coma, Sarah was not heavily sedated, sleeping-wise,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: but a hyperactive digital assassin orchestrating her future.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Now, the morning began with the brief recall of Dr.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Suad Inakua, Joe's endocrinologist, testifying via Zoom. Now, Dr. Inakua
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: brought the scientific reality of the case for the jury,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: detailing how standard short or long-acting insulin pens hold a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: maximum of 300 units. But can be spun continuously to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: inject massive lethal overdoses.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And doctor, I'm going to apologize now. Lama's much better
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: at this. Dr. Inakawa?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Been read directly from Joe's real-time Dexcom glucose monitor logs.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: The data revealed that Joe's body crashed into a critical
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: hypoglycemic state, violently bottoming out at a flat, unreadable glucose
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: level below 55. At 4.30 p.m. on Friday, January 6, 2023,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: it went to below 54. Dr. Nakua testified he would
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: be entirely unconscious. Patients who are that low cannot help themselves.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: That just sorry. That is just so terrifying to me.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: This is an incredibly cruel way.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It's cruel.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: The suffering, the helplessness. It's just.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: And being aware that your wife's in the other room
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and she's not helping you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Poor Joe. Now, the state called its 24th witness,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: former Chambers County Detective Skylar Rocks, the lead investigator on
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the case. Though only six months into her detective shield
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: when she landed the file, Rocks spent months compiling hundreds
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of thousands of pages of records. She testified that Sarah's
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: hospital demeanor was chillingly theatrical. Quote, She would appear to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: suddenly remember she needed to be sad, but it seemed
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: completely staged, end quote.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to read this part. Joe had remained
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: trapped in that physiological basement for over 20 consecutive hours,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and that monitor blared emergency alarms straight to Sarah's phone
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: every 20 minutes. Joe lay there completely paralyzed and comatose
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: while his brain cells starved to death in the next room.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Okay. When Rox executed the first initial search of the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Beach City residence, the physical scene screamed of prolonged domestic neglect.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: The home reeked of animal waste with five dogs and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: a cat left completely unattended.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: That is scary in itself to think about that all
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: just being unattended. Now, in the bathroom, prescription pill bottles
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: completely littered the counters. And the resident cat was using
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the floor as a toilet because its litter box had
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: been abandoned for days, which means it hadn't been cleaned.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Now, inside the master bedroom, Joe's bed was stained with
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a massive pile of fresh vomit. Sarah had explicitly told
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: first responders that Joe was wrapped in a pristine white comforter. Yet,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: rocks testified that the comforter had absolutely zero vomit on it,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: proving the scene had been actively manipulated.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: On the nightstand, rocks were covered, eight to ten scattered
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: insulin pins. Next to them sat a glass cup that
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Sarah claimed she had been repeatedly refilling with orange juice
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to treat Joe's low blood sugar throughout the morning.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: But I thought he was just walking around. Which one
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: is it?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And earlier you said you got him a cup of water.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Now it's orange juice. I mean, girl, I can't keep up.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Now, at the very bottom of the cup, it was
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: completely dry, Detective Rocks told the jury. There were thick
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: black specks inside it that appeared to be mildew, as
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: if that glass had been sitting on that counter for
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: numerous days.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Now, Rocks noted that Sarah eagerly gave consent to search
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the home. and even aggressively encouraged her to confiscate the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: insulin pins. It made me feel like she knew there
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: would be no forensic evidence or fingerprints left to find
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: on them, Rox testified.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Now, throughout the walkthrough, Sarah joked casually, openly calling her
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: comatose husband a pig, which is wild, displaying zero tears
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: or distress. Rocks also noted that despite Sarah claiming she
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: was too heavily impaired by post-surgery narcotics to monitor Joe
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: or check on his room, she comfortably drove herself to
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the hospital on January 7th simply because she, quote, wanted
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to have her own car there, end quote.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Am I the only wife? Remember, they haven't been married
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: very long. That isn't begging anyone. them to let me
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: into the back of the ambulance to ride with him.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Am I the only one?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Detective Rocks then unleashed the absolute crown jewel of the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: state's cross-examination. The full forensic download of Sarah's iPhone.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Now, when Rocks had originally asked for the device, Sarah panicked,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: blurting out, oh, crap, so... Here's a question. Do I
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: have to give you this without a warrant? Once Rox
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: handed her the signed warrant, Sarah stalled, scrolling frantically up
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and down on the screen to delete files, while Rox
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: literally watched over her shoulder as she finished a Facebook post.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: The audacity of this woman. I mean, let's just, that's brazen.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to Facebook. That's number one priority right now. Yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Although Sarah had purged her native Safari browser history, the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: forensic software successfully pulled the embedded background cookies, revealing what
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: she was looking at while Joe was dying. Such as
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: aggressive internet searches for specific Bible verses, Instructions on how
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: to lock and track air tags. Relationship terms like gaslighting
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and misogynistic. And a specific episode of the true crime
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: show snapped detailing a woman who committed a murder and
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: successfully fled the state.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Girl. I know. I'm still wanting to know what the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: answers are for the AirTags because those have not come
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: up in anything. And it's a weird search, how to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: lock and track AirTags. So where the AirTags come into
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: this story, I don't know. I'm going to find out why.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Then came the data from the iPhone's internal accelerometer, the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Apple movement step logs. Oh, gosh, the steps. Yes. Sarah's
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: explicit defense was that she spent the morning of January
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: 7 dead to the world, asleep on the living room
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: couch under the heavy fog of surgical painkillers. But the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: step counts completely exposed the perjury. Girl.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Now, on January 7, from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m.,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: while Sarah said she was heavily asleep or sedated, her
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: activity movement logged 36 to 496 steps being taken. And yet,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: during 1 to 2 p.m. when she said she woke up,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: walked in, and found Joe unresponsive, there was zero recorded movement.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: She's awful.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Now, the data proved a horrific reality. Sarah was actively
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: pacing the house all morning while the Dexcom alarms rang out.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: The single hour that she took zero steps was the
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: exact window she claimed she was desperately running around the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: bedroom discovering his body, which would be so many steps.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: So many, but still zero.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And also, I would have been so irritated at the alarms.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I would have got it and turned it off just
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: so I didn't have to hear it anymore.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that too.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: That's, you know, she meant it, right? Now, while pacing
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the house, Sarah's digital activity was booming. She was accessing
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: the HEB grocery app. It's a great app. Checking the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: USAA banking apps and actively hunting for new employment on Indeed, ZipRecruiter.com.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: In AramarkCareers.com.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. She was also busy text messaging friends, painting
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Joe's family in a toxic light, and strictly blocking them
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: from the hospital, texting relatives that no one was allowed
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: to see Joe without her physical presence. All totally normal. Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, the most sinister digital extraction occurred at 5 a.m.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, January 7th. The forensic download revealed that Sarah
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: had accessed Joe's phone while he lay comatose and generated
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a permanent Apple legacy contact access key, screenshotting the encrypted
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: key and text messaging it directly to her own device.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Hmm. Quote, I believe Sarah created that Apple legacy contact
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: and sent it to herself, Detective Rocks testified powerfully, explicitly allowed.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: her total unfettered access to his personal phone and accounts
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: after his death, end quote.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I personally think she was looking for his credit card,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: bank accounts, anything like that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Everything to take his money.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Holly? Holly?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm happy or sad your husband's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: at H-E-B because it's normally pretty rough on Thursday night,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: or it here is anyway. Now, hours before she ever
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: bothered to call an ambulance, Sarah was already digitally harvesting
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: the digital estate of her future late husband. The state
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: introduced a series of text messages highlighting the financial motive.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Now, in the weeks prior, Sarah had sent aggressive texts
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to Joe, demanding to know exactly who his corporate life
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: insurance beneficiaries were, instructing him to go to his HR
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: department to officially amend the paperwork. In a subsequent text,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: she gloated to a friend, confirming she was officially locked
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: in as the sole beneficiary. Oh, wow, of course. And
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of course she's bragging about it again.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, and you're bragging about it. Now, furthermore, on
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the morning of January 7th, while Joe's sugar was actively flatlining,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Sarah was busy messaging a friend on Facebook, calculatingly building
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: a false paper trail. She complained that Joe's blood sugar
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: was dangerously high, accused him of completely ignoring his medical advice.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And wrote that he was slowly killing himself. She was
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: deliberately texting that he had high sugar to construct an alibi.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Knowing her own phone was simultaneously receiving hundreds of automatic
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: notifications that his sugar was actually fatally low.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, the defense team looked on in grim silence
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: as the prosecution introduced the final text Sarah sent just
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: before calling 911. It was an obvious attempt to frame
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: her coming actions as a sudden panic. Oh my God,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I'm about to call 911. He's breathing but won't wake up.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: He's going to be so mad at me, but now
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I'm really scared.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Because you send a text before calling 911.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: As one does.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Because seconds matter, people.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: So then defense attorney Casey Darwin stepped up for a
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: fierce cross-examination. He focused heavily on Detective Ross's relative inexperience,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: hammering the point that she had already locked into a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: rigid conclusion of murder. before the grand jury met, even
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: while the formal investigation was technically ongoing.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Well, Mr.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Darwin, when you got a client as dumb as yours,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, what else was she supposed to think? Captain
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: obvious as it was. Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I also hope if they go to present
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to a grand jury that they would have some theory
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: if they're presenting. I'm like, okay, sure, sure. But we
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: failed to collect the physical insulin pills that first day,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Rocks admitted transparently under Darwin's pressure, calling it a standard
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: departmental oversight. But it did not change the absolute course
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: of this investigation.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And also, am I wrong to think if you've got
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: somebody saying, oh, take those, take those, those would be
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the last pieces of evidence I would take. But that's
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: just me.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: But again, I mean, her... Like if you think it's her,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: her fingernail prints or anything, that doesn't matter. It doesn't
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: mean anything. Because as you said, they could have been
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: stored in the fridge and moved around and like whatever.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So even though the defense wants to point that out,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I do agree. It's a moot point. It wouldn't have
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: mattered either way.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And the fact when they did take them, there was
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: no fingerprints on them. That's even more suspicious.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Now, Rux stood her ground, looking Darwin in the eye.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: She acknowledged that while there was no physical video footage
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: of Sarah physically plunging a needle into Joe's skin, the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: circumstantial and digital evidence was overwhelming.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Agree. Rocks revealed that a secondary search warrant executed after
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Sarah's formal arrest on February 3rd, 2023, pulled her locked
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: computer files. Now tucked inside the hard drive data, investigators
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: found a final devastating search query Sarah had run while
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Joe was hooked to life support in the intensive care unit. Quote,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: can't too much insulin cause a stroke? End quote.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: It was the exact fraudulent cause of death she would
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: later feed to the realtor. Print in Joe's public obituary
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and push out to all of his friends. The final
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: forensic note revealed that Joe's own iPhone movement data had
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: been completely manually toggled off since November 2022. The exact
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: month their marriage began its final violent deterioration. That's premeditated.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Sarah Hartsfeld, Detective Rocks told the final jury panel, was cooperative,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: but her entire digital footprint was entirely inconsistent with innocence.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: When I say premeditated, I didn't mean premeditated murder. I
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: meant premeditated to turn off.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure she was plotting murder. Well, I feel confident.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to go that far, but.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I will. Yeah. Let's be honest here. It's she's tried.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: This is how many times now that she's went this route. So.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, guys, that brings us to the end of
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: part eight. The digital blueprint has been laid out. The
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: step counts have exposed the perjury. And Sarah's own children
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: have shattered her self-defense claims from the witness stand. The
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: state's case is officially rested and the trap has sprung
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: completely shut.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Now, next week on the final episode of True Crime
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: and Wine Time, Sarah Hartsfield, we bring you part nine,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: The Reckoning, what we've all been waiting for. We take
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: you inside the Chambers County Courthouse for the absolute judicial
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: reckoning of Sarah Hartsfield. It's, uh, I can't wait. We've
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: been waiting for it. You'll hear the fiery and passion-closing
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: arguments from the prosecution portraying Sarah as a calculating apex
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: predator whose 30 years of arrogance have finally caught up
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: with her. Mmm, just desserts.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Then we'll take you inside the tense moments of jury
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: deliberations where 12 citizens needed just 60 minutes to dismantle
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a lifetime of manipulation. Return a swift, decisive verdict and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: hand down a life sentence that ensures Sarah will never
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: see free air again.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: And then finally, you'll hear the raw emotional victim impact
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: statements from Joe's family. exclusive post-trial commentary from the jurors themselves,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and our final deep dive into how 30 years of
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: unpunished crimes were finally brought to light.
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  Speaker 1: So you're going to want to pass the bottle, clear
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: your schedules, and get ready for the series finale. Because
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: next week, the web finally collapses on the spider.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And while you're waiting for next week, go re-listen to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: them all again. As a full piece. Yes. So that way,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: that's what I do whenever it gets to be like
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: a finale of a TV show. I go rewatch all
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the episodes to get in the mood for the finale.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: So go do that while you wait for us.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And then I also, after the finale, I go do
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: a deep dive on all of the other stuff. You
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: deserve it. Normally, I would say maybe, but not today, Lainey.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Not today. You're going to have to for sure. Mary,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: check out KPRC. They did a live action blog every
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: day of the trial and they have a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's literally all in our story.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It's true. It is all in there.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Like all of it.
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  Speaker 1: But if you want like the nitty gritty details, like
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: we didn't like give you, we gave you the details,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: but we didn't give you like the bad details, if
• 49:16
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• 49:42
  Speaker 2: That's right. Well, you guys, that was another episode. I swear,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: this woman, this woman, this woman, again, it surprises me
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: so much that there just wasn't as talked about as
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: it is. There's not even a Netflix documentary about this woman. Like, hello?
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I will say, of course, Keith Morrison over on Dateline
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: has some great interviews with them And you hear things
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that will make you cry. It's one of the few
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Dateline episodes that I've ugly cried to.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I bet.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: So that says a lot because I don't normally ugly cry.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: Well, friends, I hope you all have a wonderful night.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: As I always tell you all, go forth and be amazing.
• 50:28
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  Speaker 1: Be aware. But most importantly, remember to be kind because
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Bye, friends.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Bye, guys.
• 50:39
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