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- 0:00Speaker 1: We got a full question for American mama's. Dear mama's,
- 0:02Speaker 1: are schools doing enough to prepare kids today for college?
- 0:05Speaker 1: Let's ask are American mama's mama mama?
- 0:15Speaker 2: She said?
- 0:19Speaker 1: And joining us now are American mama's Terry Edville and
- 0:22Speaker 1: Kimberly Burlison. So there's been a story of a girl
- 0:27Speaker 1: who graduated with like three point eight seven GPA and
- 0:31Speaker 1: she gets to college and she realizes when she gets
- 0:34Speaker 1: to college, she's practically illiterate. And so she's sued the
- 0:39Speaker 1: school district that she went to high school for saying,
- 0:42Speaker 1: you guys said you were teaching me, but I don't
- 0:44Speaker 1: know anything.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Is this is?
- 0:49Speaker 3: She feels like, I guess she had a three point
- 0:51Speaker 3: eighty seven. Yeah, And the family is arguing that the
- 0:55Speaker 3: issue that the district issued a meaningless diploma that stripped
- 0:59Speaker 3: her of her free trend additional vocational services intended for students.
- 1:04Speaker 3: And I just thought, so, I think this is a
- 1:06Speaker 3: real problem. I think our students today are being dumbed
- 1:10Speaker 3: down because they are cheating so much. And the crazy
- 1:13Speaker 3: thing about the kids, I'm talking my own kids, I'm
- 1:16Speaker 3: talking my nieces, nephews. It is so talked about as
- 1:20Speaker 3: if it's very common to cheat because of AI, because
- 1:23Speaker 3: they're using AI to cheat. But it's like when if
- 1:26Speaker 3: we ever cheated, it was like hush, hush, you know,
- 1:29Speaker 3: I wrote in the tiniest print ever on a piece
- 1:31Speaker 3: of paper that I hid. These kids are now openly
- 1:34Speaker 3: talking about how they cheated and the way. It's just
- 1:37Speaker 3: not even a thing anymore that I'm afraid that we've
- 1:40Speaker 3: got too many dumb people being churned out of our schools.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Well, because you don't even have to be smart to
- 1:45Speaker 1: cheat now. I mean, back back in our day, if
- 1:47Speaker 1: you were cheating, you actually had to go through a
- 1:49Speaker 1: whole bunch of effort and intelligence to be able.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Yes she did, But Stephen, it's even in college. So
- 1:55Speaker 3: I don't think these diplomas are going to mean anything.
- 1:58Speaker 3: And it almost scares me for certain professions that they're
- 2:01Speaker 3: that they're very important that you have a degree in it.
- 2:04Speaker 3: It scares me for the kind of people that they're
- 2:06Speaker 3: turning out there, whether it's you know, attorney, your doctor
- 2:09Speaker 3: or whatever, where it's very important that you know what
- 2:12Speaker 3: you're talking about.
- 2:12Speaker 2: I don't think that you can cheat in those particular
- 2:15Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking earlier is when when it
- 2:18Speaker 2: comes to medicine, pharmacy, nursing, it's a whole different thing.
- 2:23Speaker 2: You cannot cheat because they're grading you, they're watching you.
- 2:26Speaker 2: You have to use critical thinking. And that's what's lost
- 2:29Speaker 2: in all of this. We had to learn critical thinking.
- 2:33Speaker 2: We had to figure out things that we felt were
- 2:35Speaker 2: unfigure outable, you know well.
- 2:37Speaker 1: And problem solving. I mean, there was when you got
- 2:40Speaker 1: a report and all of your classes you had to
- 2:43Speaker 1: do a report, right, and they went, Okay, here's your topic.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Go to the library and figure it out, right, And
- 2:51Speaker 1: the teachers like and leave me alone, right, But you
- 2:54Speaker 1: go to the here's the Yeah, go figure it out. Yes,
- 3:00Speaker 1: you will be judged on how well you figure this
- 3:04Speaker 1: out pretty much on your own. Right.
- 3:06Speaker 2: There's something romantic to if you go back to that time,
- 3:09Speaker 2: in that era when you're in the library and you
- 3:11Speaker 2: have like four or five books you know, all around
- 3:14Speaker 2: you because you've had to go through and discover. There's
- 3:17Speaker 2: something about the image of that that kind of makes
- 3:20Speaker 2: me sad that we don't have it. It's such a
- 3:22Speaker 2: sense of accomplished Yes, yes, and I think nowadays, like
- 3:26Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, a friend of mine an acquaintance
- 3:29Speaker 2: her boyfriend. She read me this poem that he wrote.
- 3:33Speaker 2: It was I said, my god, that's that's outstanding, Like
- 3:37Speaker 2: that's incredible. She said, well, all he did was he
- 3:40Speaker 2: put in these traits that he feels about me. He
- 3:43Speaker 2: put it into AI, and AI came out with this
- 3:45Speaker 2: perfect He said, this is exactly how he feels. And
- 3:47Speaker 2: as somebody who writes poems, I'm like, oh, that's all
- 3:51Speaker 2: you have to do. It's like, this is what I love.
- 3:53Speaker 2: That's why all these songs, you know, right now they
- 3:55Speaker 2: have all of these songs that are coming out and
- 3:57Speaker 2: they're going number one. Yeah, AI their AI and the
- 4:03Speaker 2: sound is great. They have a picture of like this
- 4:06Speaker 2: guy and you're like, I want to go see him
- 4:08Speaker 2: in concert. He sounds amazing. He's bluegrass, but he's also
- 4:11Speaker 2: this it's AI. He doesn't exists. So what the kids
- 4:15Speaker 2: are doing I think now there's they've got courses where
- 4:18Speaker 2: they can teach children how to use AI to to
- 4:23Speaker 2: their benefit, but not rely on it for critical thinking.
- 4:27Speaker 2: So they've had to learn how to go around it
- 4:30Speaker 2: because it's there. So now we have teachers in high
- 4:33Speaker 2: school and college who are having to actually do courses on.
- 4:36Speaker 2: This is how you're going to utilize it.
- 4:37Speaker 3: This freaks me out because if you don't have AI,
- 4:40Speaker 3: let's say grid goes down, you can't access internet or
- 4:44Speaker 3: what are we left with a bunch of people that
- 4:46Speaker 3: are stupid, that don't know what to do, how to
- 4:48Speaker 3: do anything well.
- 4:49Speaker 1: And ultimately, the way you make a living And I
- 4:52Speaker 1: don't know if we've taught enough people this the way
- 4:55Speaker 1: you make a living is you make yourself valuable to
- 4:59Speaker 1: someone else. You've got to find a way to provide
- 5:02Speaker 1: a service to other people that is valuable to them
- 5:05Speaker 1: so they are willing to pay you money. This is
- 5:08Speaker 1: how the market system works.
- 5:09Speaker 2: And this is why there's an uptick in a lot
- 5:12Speaker 2: of the plumbers, electricians, a little trade vocational trade schools.
- 5:17Speaker 2: It's an uptick because AI cannot come in and do
- 5:20Speaker 2: a plumber's job.
- 5:21Speaker 1: But if you are relied on AI to get through
- 5:23Speaker 1: high school, what skills do you have that will make
- 5:27Speaker 1: you more valuable to someone else than AI is if
- 5:32Speaker 1: you haven't learned how to try to do anything, even
- 5:36Speaker 1: trade school. You know, at some point in trade school
- 5:39Speaker 1: you have to learn how to do something. If you don't,
- 5:41Speaker 1: if you're cheating your way all the way through and
- 5:43Speaker 1: schools are allowing it. How are you going to live?
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- 5:53Speaker 1: the brothers, and thank you so much, Thank you,