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Sharri | 1 December · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening Tonight, Anthony Albanesi's wedding guest list explains why
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Speaker 2: he still hasn't called an inquiry into the Mean Girls.
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Speaker 2: I'll speak about this with Brohman, Bishop and Steve Price.
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Speaker 2: Osiakta Guy Peace quits social media after sharing horrific misinformation
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Speaker 2: about Israel. Sharan Haskell would join Me Live from Israel.
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Speaker 2: School Children forced to hide under their desks after crime
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Speaker 2: related to a Melbourne injecting room. The mayor demanding it
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Speaker 2: move would join Me Live plus in Sydney. Local residents
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Speaker 2: in a Sydney suburb go undercover with secret cameras to
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Speaker 2: catch an anti Israel vandal.
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Speaker 3: Caught in the act a Sydney suburb vandalized neighbors taking
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Speaker 3: matters into their own hands, secret cameras and in this astonishing revelation,
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Speaker 3: the moment that colbrit is exposed.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you more about that exclusive in a moment,
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Speaker 2: but first tonight, the Prime Minister's wedding guest tells you
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Speaker 2: everything you need to know about why he's refused to
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Speaker 2: hold an inquiry into the bullying allegations against the so
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Speaker 2: called mean Girls.
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Speaker 4: Penny Wong and Katie Gallagher.
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Speaker 2: For over three years now, there've been calls for an
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Speaker 2: investigation into the allegations leveled against Wong and Gallagher. This
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Speaker 2: began when I first broke The Mean Girl's story on
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Speaker 2: the front page of The Australian in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 2: The allegations were that they had bullied the late Senator
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Speaker 2: Kimberly Kitching, claims they denied now. The wonderful Labor Senator
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Speaker 2: had dubbed them the mean Girls, as friends told me.
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Speaker 4: After her passing and.
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Speaker 2: During her funeral, her husband Andrew Landeryou spoke of the
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Speaker 2: kabbal that made her life so difficult.
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Speaker 5: Kimberly's political and moral judgment was vastly superior to the
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Speaker 5: small number who opposed her internally. And of course there's
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Speaker 5: a lot I could say about the unpleasantness of a
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Speaker 5: cantankerous kabbal, not all of them in Parliament that was
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Speaker 5: aimed at kimber and the intensity of it did baffle.
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Speaker 6: And hurt her.
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Speaker 4: At the time.
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Speaker 2: Labor Leader Former Labor Leader Bill Shotton also spoke up about.
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Speaker 4: The bullying, and he was one of many.
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Speaker 2: Who felt it was only right that there should be
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Speaker 2: an investigation.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a coroner.
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Speaker 7: I can't tell you why this woman at fifty two
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Speaker 7: was taken from us, but I have no doubt of
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Speaker 7: the stress of politics and the mac nations in the
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Speaker 7: back rooms.
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Speaker 1: Had its toll.
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Speaker 8: I you can never dive forward and predict back what's
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Speaker 8: going to happen, but you do wonder if she would
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Speaker 8: have been better off never going near politics.
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Speaker 2: Yet alban Easy ignored those calls and protected Huang and Gallagher.
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Speaker 2: Well now Linda Reynolds is saying the Coalition should push
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Speaker 2: for an inquiry into how the pair wrongly accused her
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Speaker 2: of covering up Britney Higgins's rape. Linda Reynolds ended up
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Speaker 2: in hospital, she lost her job as Defense Minister, and
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Speaker 2: her reputation was completely destroyed.
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Speaker 9: The attack by Labor on me in the Senate. Their
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Speaker 9: behavior would be illegal in any other workplace in this country.
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Speaker 10: I was accused of.
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Speaker 9: Covering up a rape. Day after day after day after day.
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Speaker 9: They were asking me questions that legally and ethically I
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Speaker 9: knew I couldn't and I shouldn't answer.
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Speaker 2: Despite the relentless campaign by Albanese's team against the then
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Speaker 2: Morrison government.
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Speaker 4: Two separate cots have.
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Speaker 2: Now found there was no cover up at all by
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Speaker 2: Linda Reynolds. Yet this is how Katie Gallagher and Penny
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Speaker 2: Wong pursued her. Why has this minister so failed to
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Speaker 2: meet her own standard?
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Speaker 4: Why is she continuing the cover up?
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Speaker 11: She cannot hide behind Miss Higgins any longer. She deserves
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Speaker 11: better because by withholding information, what she is is continuing
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Speaker 11: is the cover up that has been underway for two years.
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Speaker 2: So Albanezi, for three and a half years now has
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Speaker 2: refused any inquiry to examine the allegations of bullying against
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Speaker 2: Gallagher and Wong. And here's why, because they're his closest
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Speaker 2: confidence and among personal friends. They were among the select
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Speaker 2: few politicians he invited to his wedding on the weekend.
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Speaker 2: There was Deputy Prime Minister Richard Miles, Treasurer Jim Chalmers
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Speaker 2: picture there with his wife Laura, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke,
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Speaker 2: who arrived with his second wife who was his former
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Speaker 2: chief of staff, Sky Laris, Health Minister Mark Butler, Industry
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Speaker 2: Minister Tim As, Trade Minister and factional power broker Don Farrell,
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Speaker 2: and NDIS Minister Jenny McAllister.
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Speaker 4: And then Penny Wong and Katie Gallagher.
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Speaker 2: So out of ninety four Labor MPs, ninety four Labor MPs,
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Speaker 2: only nine made the cut, Wong and Gallagher among them.
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Speaker 2: Gallagher yesterday used excuses to avoid questions about an inquiry.
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Speaker 11: I'm not answering any further questions on this. You've asked
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Speaker 11: me exactly those questions a couple of weeks ago, and
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Speaker 11: my position hasn't changed. Do you do you think the
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Speaker 11: tape path of an explanation for the two point four
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Speaker 11: million conversation teament that went out well? Like I just
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Speaker 11: said to Andrew Clenell, those matters have made arms length
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Speaker 11: from government and they, to my understanding, have been referred
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Speaker 11: to the NAK and I'll leave it for that authority.
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Speaker 5: To say anything.
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Speaker 4: Linda Reynolds has responded.
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Speaker 2: She says, I find it completely absurd that the Labor
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Speaker 2: government continues to claim that it was at arm's length
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Speaker 2: from the settlement. The Labor Attorney General signed off on
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Speaker 2: the mediation and cut me out of my own defense.
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Speaker 2: Justice must be available for all Australians, regardless of political
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Speaker 2: affiliation or gender.
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Speaker 4: She says.
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Speaker 2: It soundens me that the Federal Minister for Women, the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister, and now the Greens and Teals are so
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Speaker 2: selective in terms of which alien women are deserving of justice.
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Speaker 2: But for Katie Gallagher, with alban Easy on her side,
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Speaker 2: it seems she has nothing to worry about, and so
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Speaker 2: in the presser yesterday she went on to speak about
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Speaker 2: the wedding.
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Speaker 4: But it doesn't sound.
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Speaker 2: Like Gallagher really was in the was getting into the
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Speaker 2: spirit of the wedding because she wouldn't have the cake,
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Speaker 2: she wouldn't dance, and she left early.
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Speaker 11: The cake was beautiful. I didn't have any I'm not
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Speaker 11: a cake person, but it was a two tier wedding cake.
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Speaker 11: It was It was stunning, and they both gave their
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Speaker 11: speeches just before cutting the cake.
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Speaker 6: And what song gets the Finance minister onto the dance.
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Speaker 11: Books There is no song that gets the finance minister
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Speaker 11: onto the dance floor at all.
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Speaker 2: I'm not a dancer, She's not a cake person. She's
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Speaker 2: not a dancer. And then according to the City Morning Herald,
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Speaker 2: she was the first to leave the wedding. Meanwhile, it
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Speaker 2: turns out the wedding was an open secret in camera
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Speaker 2: last week, yet the press gallery chose not to report
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Speaker 2: the fact that Alban Easy was getting married ahead of
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Speaker 2: his big day. When media outlets went to report on this,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's office phoned them and threatened that it
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Speaker 2: would derail security arrangements. Apparently they were worried about pro
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Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters turning up outside the lotch. Now, in my view,
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Speaker 2: the media could have easily reported on the wedding but
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Speaker 2: withheld the location.
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Speaker 4: That would have been sensible.
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Speaker 2: But then even after the wedding guests arrived on the day,
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Speaker 2: the media still didn't report on it. They allowed the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister's office to control the precise timing, and in
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Speaker 2: fact The Daily Mail was the only media outlet that
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Speaker 2: went ahead and published this story. They used a long
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Speaker 2: lens camera to capture alban Easy and Jody Hayden right
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Speaker 2: after their wedding. They broke the news and good on
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Speaker 2: the Daily Mail. I've never heard of anything more ridiculous
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Speaker 2: than even after the pair are married, even after guests
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Speaker 2: have arrived, waiting for the Prime Minister's spin doctors to
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Speaker 2: tell you that you can publish this is absurd. Well,
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Speaker 2: shortly after the Daily Mail, Peace, alban Ezy's media team
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Speaker 2: released an image and a statement, and then the rest
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Speaker 2: of the media brought the news to the public. Now,
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Speaker 2: we're not living in China here, we're meant to have
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Speaker 2: a free press. And by the way, police do have
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Speaker 2: move on orders available to them if protesters did discover
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Speaker 2: the location of the wedding and turn up. But on
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Speaker 2: the day itself, in my strong view, there was no
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Speaker 2: legitimate reason not to report on the wedding as it
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Speaker 2: was happening, or the arrival of the guests. I'm totally
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Speaker 2: blown away that the media didn't report on it. This
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Speaker 2: is unprecedented, but it shows you the sort of control
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Speaker 2: Albanzi wields over the press gallery.
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Speaker 4: It's out of control. It's unacceptable. And then all the.
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Speaker 2: Media reports praised the Prime Minister for paying for the
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Speaker 2: wedding himself, but he saved on the venue, which, as
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Speaker 2: everyone knows, is usually the most expensive part. It costs
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Speaker 2: upwards of ten thousand dollars at least. Or Albanize got
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Speaker 2: married at the lodge, so that was free.
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Speaker 4: He saved a lot of money there.
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Speaker 2: And then were the regular lodge staff used for the
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Speaker 2: wedding or did he pay for different private waiters too.
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Speaker 4: We just don't know this.
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Speaker 2: And then also with all this fuss over the grand
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Speaker 2: love story of Albanesi and Jody Will spare a thought
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Speaker 2: for Albanese's first wife, Carmel Tebbett, who was the former
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Speaker 2: Deputy Premier of New South Wales. She put up with
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Speaker 2: him for nineteen years while he traveled back and forth
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Speaker 2: from Canberra, where at night he was whining and dining.
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Speaker 2: We don't know her reasons for leaving the marriage because
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Speaker 2: she's maintained a dignified silence ever since. I'll come back
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Speaker 2: to that in just a moment with Steve Price and
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Speaker 2: Bronwan Bishop.
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Speaker 4: No doubt they have something to say.
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Speaker 2: But first, A Sydney suburb has been grappling with anti
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Speaker 2: Israeli graffiti for six months now. It's been on public property,
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Speaker 2: on residential buildings, on real estate, science and building walls.
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Speaker 2: The vandalism has been so relentless and distressing. The local
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Speaker 2: residents got together and set up secret cameras to try
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Speaker 2: and capture the vandal responsible and they had extraordinary success.
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Speaker 2: CZTV footage taken over many weeks has unmasked the anti
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Speaker 2: israel bandit. Local residents literally turned detective to try and
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Speaker 2: find out who was behind it, who was responsible. Today
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Speaker 2: I confronted that person. Now this full investigation will air
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Speaker 2: on the show tomorrow night at eight pm.
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Speaker 4: But here's a sneak peek.
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Speaker 3: Caught in the act a Sydney suburb, vandalized neighbors taking
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Speaker 3: matters into their own hands, secret cameras and an astonishing
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Speaker 3: revelation the moment that colbrit Is exposed on.
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Speaker 4: So that full story tomorrow night at eight pm. Don't
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Speaker 4: miss it.
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Speaker 2: Right, Let's bringing now former Speaker of the House Groman
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Speaker 2: Bishop and Sky News host Steve Price.
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Speaker 4: Great to see you both. Broman.
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Speaker 2: Starting with you, it seems there's no accountability for Albanize's
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Speaker 2: close personal friends Penny Wong and Katie Gallagher, who were
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Speaker 2: at his wedding.
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Speaker 12: Well, I'd call him his close personal henchmen, because that's
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Speaker 12: what they are. Their behavior during that whole incident of
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Speaker 12: Brittany Higgins in the Senate was an absolute disgrace, and
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Speaker 12: I think if there'd been a different president in the chair,
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Speaker 12: maybe they would have been called into line. But their
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Speaker 12: refusal to apologize in the result of the two court
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Speaker 12: cases and the findings that have been made just shows
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Speaker 12: how brazen they are. And to see Kimblely's husband again
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Speaker 12: at her funeral just brings it all back.
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Speaker 4: It does, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I played it again because people forget
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Speaker 2: where this all began, the whole Meingo saga, that's where
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Speaker 2: it began. And actually I got my math's wrong, not
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Speaker 2: for the first time before.
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Speaker 4: But there are ninety.
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Speaker 2: Four in the Labor MP's in the house, but then
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Speaker 2: there are the Labor senators as well, So that's one
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Speaker 2: hundred plus labor people out of which Albaneze invited just nine.
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Speaker 12: Yes to the wedding says a lot about who's close
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Speaker 12: to doesn't it, And it does so I think the
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Speaker 12: fact that you pointed out that, as I said, the Hinchman.
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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, Steve, you know, what do you think of this?
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Speaker 2: It explains why there's been no inquiry into the mean
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Speaker 2: goals and also what did you think of the wedding?
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Speaker 13: Well, Katie Gallagher, I mean I bet Bromin Bishop would
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Speaker 13: have had some cake and been on the dance floor
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Speaker 13: as soon as the music started.
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Speaker 14: She would tell you what she would be because I
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Speaker 14: have been on the dance floor with Brown before we
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Speaker 14: were on the dance floor all Brown, so that I
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Speaker 14: can say that is absolutely true.
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Speaker 13: It would have been much more fun if Bromen had
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Speaker 13: been there. Look, I guess a lot of those ninety
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Speaker 13: four plus the senators who didn't get invited probably didn't
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Speaker 13: have their weekends ruined. Look, I'm happy they got married,
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Speaker 13: and you know, I take your point about the reportage
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Speaker 13: of this though.
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Speaker 1: Why was it the state secret?
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Speaker 13: I mean, if somebody in Cameron knew that the Prime
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Speaker 13: Minister was going to get married at the lodge on Saturday,
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Speaker 13: what would be the problem with the reporting that, As
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Speaker 13: you quite rightly and sensibly point out, just don't say
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Speaker 13: where it could have been, Kabilly, it could have been
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Speaker 13: a church in Marrickville, could have been anywhere.
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Speaker 1: If you don't say the.
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Speaker 13: Location, the protesters can't turn up. As for the mean
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Speaker 13: girl issue, I mean, give me Linda Reynolds and Bromwin
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Speaker 13: Bishop any.
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Speaker 1: Day of the week.
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Speaker 13: If I got in trouble, I'd love to have Linda
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Speaker 13: Reynolds on my side. She's been outstandingly magnificent in this
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Speaker 13: whole saga. People have tried to ruin her life of
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Speaker 13: political career and pretty much did, and she has stood fast.
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Speaker 13: She's put her own money into a legal defense. Good
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Speaker 13: on her, and she's the sort of person we should
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Speaker 13: be looking up to.
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Speaker 2: I agree with that, but it has in a sense
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Speaker 2: ruined or taken away from how many years of her
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Speaker 2: life now, I mean.
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Speaker 4: When it did, five six years.
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Speaker 12: It did, and her commitment and her willingness to fund
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Speaker 12: it herself is beyond what most people would do. I mean,
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Speaker 12: she wanted her reputation back, That's what she wanted. I mean,
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Speaker 12: she was a brigadier before. She's a fine given fine
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Speaker 12: service to the country and to be treated as she
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Speaker 12: was by those two people was an absolute that's dear
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Speaker 12: of justice.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, let's turn to the state of the
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Speaker 2: energy market.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 2: The Australian Energy Market Operator has wanned the New South
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Speaker 2: Wales may face and I'm quoting now, frequent and costly
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Speaker 2: government intervention to keep the lights on if Eraring, which
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Speaker 2: is the state's largest coal plant, closes unless there's enough
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Speaker 2: grid support equipment in place. Now, the premiere here, Chris Min,
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Speaker 2: sounds open to a deal.
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Speaker 15: We did an agreement with Origin Energy in relation to
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Speaker 15: Arahing for them to extend it for two years. We'll
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Speaker 15: leave it up to them to make that call. We're
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Speaker 15: not necessarily opposed to a conversation with them about it.
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Speaker 15: Nothing will pull community support for this energy transition quicker
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Speaker 15: than reliability and costs spiking even further than it is today.
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Speaker 15: And I'm acutely aware of that because we want.
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Speaker 1: This to work.
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Speaker 2: So this is the very issue that Chris Bowen refuses
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Speaker 2: to acknowledge Brohman, that we are face seeing blackouts.
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Speaker 12: Were always going to face blackouts. In fact, I think
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Speaker 12: we should call them Bowen's. Every time the lights go up,
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Speaker 12: we say, oh, we're having a Bowen because this man
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Speaker 12: is seriously in a planet on his own. I mean
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Speaker 12: what we are facing here. He is crippling the nation,
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Speaker 12: crippling the nation, crippling business, crippling bills for ordinary individuals,
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Speaker 12: and there's no accountability, there's no sign that he ought
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Speaker 12: to be apologetic. So it was always going to happen always,
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Speaker 12: because one of the problems with the coal fire power
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Speaker 12: stations is they make them turn off so that they
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Speaker 12: can bring in the midday gush of solar and wind,
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Speaker 12: and then they want them to start up again, and
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Speaker 12: the money hasn't been spent on those power stations. So
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Speaker 12: when people talk about sweating the coal powers stations, they
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Speaker 12: mean they're just going to have money spent on them
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Speaker 12: to bring them up to standard, to continue you to
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Speaker 12: turn out energy. Every morning you can hear on the
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Speaker 12: Breakfast program that over sixty percent of all our energy
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Speaker 12: is coming from coal and it's not going to change,
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Speaker 12: and the world's going to go on using coal, our coal.
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Speaker 12: Why aren't we using it? Just imagine if we'd built
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Speaker 12: a few new Kolpa, the super clean ones instead of
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Speaker 12: these miles and miles and tens of thousands of kilometers
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Speaker 12: really of these rewiring the nation. They call it destroying
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Speaker 12: the environment, destroying people's livelihoods, destroying people's farms. It's just horrendous.
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Speaker 2: Steve, the AMO boss, seemed to downplay this today. How
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Speaker 2: do you compare his response with what we've heard from
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Speaker 2: the news Southerwis Premier.
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Speaker 1: Well, he seemed to.
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Speaker 13: Be talking about it both sides of his mouth, and mean,
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Speaker 13: the report says one thing, and then he goes on
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Speaker 13: ABC television and radio and tries to hose the.
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Speaker 1: Whole thing down.
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Speaker 13: Ah, I don't know what this guy's really going on about.
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Speaker 13: I mean, we need to keep those coal fired powerstations open.
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Speaker 1: I must say.
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Speaker 13: I saw Dant and the opposition's energy spokesman on I
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Speaker 13: think it was with either with Andrew Klanel or Mark
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Speaker 13: Chris Kenny this afternoon and a team. You know, Chris Kenny,
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Speaker 13: would you would the opposition support the construction of new
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Speaker 13: coal fired power stations? And he couldn't bring himself to
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Speaker 13: say yes until the opposition actually have the courage to say, yep,
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Speaker 13: if we get re elected, if we get elected, if
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Speaker 13: we win the next election, sure we would look at,
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Speaker 13: you know, making sure the industry feels comfortable about building
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Speaker 13: new coal fired power stations. I mean, the reason they're
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Speaker 13: not being built is because the current policy means that
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Speaker 13: they're not economical, and so no one's prepared to put
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Speaker 13: the finances in. But at least Dante and could say yep, okay,
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Speaker 13: if we win the election, we'll look at We'll look
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Speaker 13: at supporting the construction of new coal fired powerstations. I'm
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Speaker 13: not suggesting we should have taxpayer owned coal fired power stations,
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Speaker 13: but as Bromin said, I mean, how many of being
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Speaker 13: built in China, how much of our coals going into
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Speaker 13: China at the moment to build a whole bunch of
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Speaker 13: new coal fire power stations And we just say nope,
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Speaker 13: We're just going to let the economy collapse.
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Speaker 2: Or at least let the market decide exactly correct would
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Speaker 2: be the sensible way to do it. Look turning to Victoria, now,
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Speaker 2: we saw a new polling that reveals that Jess Wilson,
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Speaker 2: the new Victorian Liberal leader, the opposition leader, is now
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Speaker 2: the preferred premiere, while just into Allen's approval ratings continue
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Speaker 2: to plummet.
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Speaker 4: Now this poll.
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Speaker 2: Put Wilson a sixteen point lead over the Labor premier,
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Speaker 2: so the ratings at forty seven thirty one percent.
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Speaker 4: Respectively, Broman.
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Speaker 2: We do have to keep in mind, though, that this
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Speaker 2: is the same polling company, exactly Breshwater, that had Peter
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Speaker 2: Dunnan on track at least for a hung parliament or
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Speaker 2: even minoraity governments.
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Speaker 4: We've got to take that with a pinch.
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Speaker 12: Of salt bucket assat exactly Honestly and truly, I am
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Speaker 12: still very nervous about Victoria. I'm sure everybody else knows
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Speaker 12: better than me, but I still say there was a
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Speaker 12: disease in Victoria about a willingness to be really committed
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Speaker 12: to winning, and I've got to see a lot more
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Speaker 12: before I'm convinced that the disease has been cured in
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Speaker 12: the meantime, I just wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Spread Steve, You've said for a very long time that
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Speaker 2: you think just into Alan will win the next election.
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Speaker 2: Has your assessment changed now that Jess Wilson's in there.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Look, just Ciner Allen my in fact lose their
21:36
Speaker 13: own seat of Bendy Go East. They've got a really
21:38
Speaker 13: good candidate up there. The Nationals in nearly statched the
21:41
Speaker 13: seat during the federal election campaign. And so what I
21:46
Speaker 13: believe is that Labor will win the next state election
21:49
Speaker 13: in now less than a year. In Victoria. Yes, they
21:51
Speaker 13: will still think that absolutely that poleboy Freshwater has and
21:56
Speaker 13: Broma would know this better than me. Has the two
21:58
Speaker 13: party preferred vote at fifty. We're talking about the worst
22:02
Speaker 13: state government in the history of the Commonwealth. We've got
22:05
Speaker 13: the biggest debt. It's costing millions of dollars an hour
22:07
Speaker 13: to pay off the interests, got a crime crisis that
22:10
Speaker 13: we've never seen. A useless machete band that turned out,
22:14
Speaker 13: you know, nine thousand machetes at a massive cost to
22:17
Speaker 13: get them off the streets. If you can't beat that
22:20
Speaker 13: in an election, there's a problem. Well, I've got to
22:22
Speaker 13: tell you when people go to vote. They're not voting
22:25
Speaker 13: whether they like Jacinda Allen or not. They're voting whether
22:28
Speaker 13: the support a labor government that probably pays their salaries
22:31
Speaker 13: because the public service is so huge. Well, they work
22:33
Speaker 13: in a union on one of the big bill projects,
22:36
Speaker 13: where they've got a job for the rest of their life.
22:37
Speaker 13: That's why the Labor Party will win their next election.
22:40
Speaker 13: I'm yet to be convinced the Coalition has any chance
22:43
Speaker 13: of winning in November next year.
22:46
Speaker 2: And the Labor government that will let them work from
22:49
Speaker 2: home two days a week.
22:50
Speaker 13: Correct, So let them make their employer let them do it.
22:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, you won't have a choice.
22:56
Speaker 13: If you're the boss, I can say, Shari, I'm not
22:58
Speaker 13: coming to work on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. And if you
23:02
Speaker 13: say no, I can go to a body and get
23:05
Speaker 13: you hauled over the coals and find for not letting
23:08
Speaker 13: me work from home.
23:09
Speaker 4: Yeah.
23:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, just but that policy is beyond explanation, truly. Ruban,
23:15
Speaker 2: very quickly before you go, I'm keen to ask you
23:17
Speaker 2: about the result of the by election hinchinin brook in Queensland. Now,
23:23
Speaker 2: this has been widely reported that it was a very
23:26
Speaker 2: good result for the l and P, and of course
23:27
Speaker 2: it was, but also the Greens.
23:30
Speaker 4: I think it had.
23:31
Speaker 2: Around three point four percent, so really poor showing for
23:36
Speaker 2: the Greens as well.
23:37
Speaker 4: Labor too well.
23:39
Speaker 12: Labor has really i think sealed the fate of their
23:43
Speaker 12: current opposition leader. But the greensload is going down. I
23:48
Speaker 12: mean Bat did them an enormous amount of damage and
23:52
Speaker 12: they haven't improved. You know, when you've got the likes
23:55
Speaker 12: of the new Larissa Waters. Thank your name is no impact,
24:04
Speaker 12: no nothing. Did a deal with the Labor government to
24:08
Speaker 12: get this new Nature Positive Bill up which will again
24:13
Speaker 12: cripple advancement in Australia. I just feel that perhaps the
24:19
Speaker 12: tide is turning for the Greens. And it's interesting that
24:24
Speaker 12: Pauline Hanson's vote was very strong exactly, that's it, that is,
24:28
Speaker 12: and I think that was far more important because she's
24:31
Speaker 12: been had a strong vote in Queensland before and she
24:35
Speaker 12: could be very very important in the federal election.
24:38
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about Pauline Hanson with Ray Hadley
24:40
Speaker 2: a little later. Rowan, great to see you as always, Steve,
24:43
Speaker 2: thank you.
24:46
Speaker 4: Now I want to.
24:47
Speaker 2: Tell you about this extraordinary investigation in the Harold Son
24:51
Speaker 2: by journalist Rowan Smith into the injecting room in Richmond, Victoria.
24:56
Speaker 4: It's next to a primary school.
24:58
Speaker 1: Now.
24:58
Speaker 2: This investigation by the Harold Sign found that children were
25:02
Speaker 2: exposed to a woman who was injecting a substance into
25:05
Speaker 2: a vein in her neck. Children exposed. A father said
25:10
Speaker 2: that a man also entered the school grounds with a knife,
25:14
Speaker 2: which prompted the school into a lockdown. In fact, the
25:18
Speaker 2: school had three lockdowns in a single week, with young
25:22
Speaker 2: children being forced to hide under their desks.
25:24
Speaker 4: Extraordinary story. The Herald's son also.
25:27
Speaker 2: Revealed that a man's body was discovered outside the school,
25:31
Speaker 2: with advice for parents to use a separate entrance a
25:34
Speaker 2: drop off. One resident said that they were locked out
25:37
Speaker 2: of their home, which is located next to the school,
25:40
Speaker 2: because of a drug affected man passing out on their doorstep.
25:45
Speaker 2: This is the reality of the injecting room now. Yarra
25:49
Speaker 2: City Council's mayor Stephen Jolly he was once an ardent
25:52
Speaker 2: supporter of this injecting site and he's recently backfliped and
25:57
Speaker 2: is now urging the state government to move it. And
26:00
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say that Stephen Jones me now welcome.
26:03
Speaker 2: So why have you changed your position on the injecting room?
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Speaker 6: I think it's in the wrong spot. I mean nowhere
26:09
Speaker 6: in the world, not in Sydney, not in Portugal, not
26:12
Speaker 6: in Switzerland where there's similar facilities as this one. Are
26:15
Speaker 6: they put next to a primary school. It's almost like
26:18
Speaker 6: it's set up to fail. The Premier down here says
26:21
Speaker 6: she wants to have more injecting facilities throughout Victoria, which
26:24
Speaker 6: in general terms have got no problem with. But there's
26:26
Speaker 6: not a single community in Victoria that will accept them
26:28
Speaker 6: because when they look at Richmond, they see it next
26:31
Speaker 6: to a primary school, they see crime rates through the roof,
26:33
Speaker 6: they see all the social issues that's there. There's not
26:36
Speaker 6: enough support for rehab, for detox for the people who
26:40
Speaker 6: use in this facility, so it looks like a total miss.
26:43
Speaker 6: So it's almost like it's been set up to fail.
26:44
Speaker 6: So I'm a supporter of supervisor jective facilities, but this
26:48
Speaker 6: one doesn't have a support services around it, and it
26:50
Speaker 6: shouldn't be next to a primary school. I mean that's
26:53
Speaker 6: pretty obvious.
26:54
Speaker 2: So you just said that the crime rates have risen,
26:58
Speaker 2: So are you saying that the injecting room has led
27:01
Speaker 2: to an increasing crime in the area.
27:04
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, the supporters of the supervisor injective facility in
27:06
Speaker 6: its current spot, tell us how many people's lives they've saved,
27:09
Speaker 6: which is true, and all the needles that they've got
27:11
Speaker 6: inside the facility. What they don't tell you is that
27:14
Speaker 6: last year we picked up the council one hundred and
27:16
Speaker 6: fifty thousand used needles outside the injecting facility. What they
27:21
Speaker 6: don't tell you is that crime rates in North Richmond
27:23
Speaker 6: are thirty six percent higher than the state effort average.
27:27
Speaker 6: That crime in terms of their break ins is fifty
27:30
Speaker 6: percent higher, ninety nine percent higher when it comes to
27:33
Speaker 6: car theft. So there's a real issue here. It's like
27:35
Speaker 6: if you went to Brisbane or any city in Australia
27:37
Speaker 6: and just had one pub. Can you imagine what it
27:39
Speaker 6: would be like? Every box party, every alcoholic would be
27:42
Speaker 6: hanging around out the front China buy alcohol. If you
27:45
Speaker 6: live next to it, it would be terrible. And that's
27:47
Speaker 6: what we've got in norb We've got one supervis objective facility.
27:50
Speaker 6: It's in one area, it hasn't been given the support services,
27:53
Speaker 6: and it's next to a primary school and the locals
27:55
Speaker 6: have just had enough.
27:57
Speaker 2: I thought that herold Sign investigation was incredible, disgusting what
28:01
Speaker 2: it revealed it and how children are suffering. What alarmed
28:05
Speaker 2: you the most from that story.
28:08
Speaker 6: What alarmed me is the fact that Australia was alarmed
28:10
Speaker 6: because people in North Richmond see this every day. I've
28:13
Speaker 6: even had drug users who use the facility saying to
28:16
Speaker 6: me that they're embarrassed that it's next to a primary school.
28:19
Speaker 6: I've had women saying to me, we've got kids. We
28:21
Speaker 6: had to walk past kids to go into this injective
28:23
Speaker 6: facility to use it, and it's embarrassing to us. So
28:27
Speaker 6: I'm really really glad that this story is hit the
28:30
Speaker 6: media because it's about time Australia realized that we have
28:34
Speaker 6: a supervis injectiveciley next to a primary school with no
28:37
Speaker 6: support services. Crime gone through the roof, and as far
28:40
Speaker 6: as the state governments are concerned, we've just been glass
28:42
Speaker 6: lid the locals and the council where we've had enough.
28:46
Speaker 2: I mean, the issue is as well, where is a
28:48
Speaker 2: safe place for an injecting room like this? Like you know,
28:52
Speaker 2: isn't the issue that it should be shut down not
28:54
Speaker 2: just moved?
28:56
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think, you know, we saw it in
28:57
Speaker 6: the twenties in America with alcohol. I think using a
29:01
Speaker 6: law and order approach to drug use isn't going to work.
29:03
Speaker 6: People unfortunately take drugs and I think a harmonimization approach works,
29:08
Speaker 6: and you have to have a facility like this near
29:10
Speaker 6: where people use the drugs. Because the users of heroin
29:13
Speaker 6: and I are chaotic, what they call chaotic drug uses.
29:16
Speaker 6: They want to use the drug almost as soon as
29:18
Speaker 6: they buy it. So moving the facility to up the
29:21
Speaker 6: roads to Victoria Street or to a nearby hospital seems
29:24
Speaker 6: to be much more logical. That's where it is in
29:26
Speaker 6: Portugal and Europe. In Sydney it's not next to a school.
29:30
Speaker 1: So I know some.
29:31
Speaker 6: People think that they shouldn't have one in the first place.
29:33
Speaker 6: I understand that for you. I don't share that for you.
29:35
Speaker 6: But I think what we can all agree on is
29:37
Speaker 6: that you know, if there was only one pub in Sydney,
29:40
Speaker 6: you wouldn't put it next to kindergarten.
29:42
Speaker 2: No. Sure, Look, just finally, do you want to say
29:45
Speaker 2: sorry for the fact that you supported this room in
29:48
Speaker 2: the first place next to a school?
29:49
Speaker 5: No?
29:50
Speaker 6: I mean I've always supported the room. I still support
29:52
Speaker 6: the room. I think it's in the wrong spot. We
29:55
Speaker 6: believe that the government back in the day that this
29:56
Speaker 6: was all going to work, that they were going to
29:58
Speaker 6: provide the support services, and that hasn't happened. I've been
30:01
Speaker 6: leading the chart with the locals for years now. The
30:04
Speaker 6: only person who should say sorry here is the state
30:06
Speaker 6: government of Victoria, who's gastled and gastled and gasted at
30:10
Speaker 6: the locals. And they've had enough. And I think it'll
30:13
Speaker 6: be a long time now before people try and second
30:15
Speaker 6: guess the people of North Richmond.
30:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, fair enough, well, Steven, thank you very much,
30:21
Speaker 2: appreciate your time show on the show. Any congratulations to
30:25
Speaker 2: the Herald Sign for that excellent journalism.
30:27
Speaker 4: Now still to come, OSSI.
30:29
Speaker 2: Actor Guy Pierce quits social media after spreading misinformation about Israel.
30:34
Speaker 2: Sharen Haskell, we'll have more on that soon. Plus the
30:37
Speaker 2: million dollar bill for the Greens party room, Ray Hadley,
30:40
Speaker 2: we'll be here to discuss after the break.
30:47
Speaker 4: Welcome back.
30:48
Speaker 2: Well, some incredible revelations have come out of Senate estimates
30:51
Speaker 2: today that the Greens party room is costing one point
30:55
Speaker 2: six million dollars. That's a single room for eleven Green's politicians. Now,
31:01
Speaker 2: we were told just last year that it had cost
31:04
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty six thousand dollars, it's already gone
31:06
Speaker 2: up and joining me now in studio another person who
31:09
Speaker 2: loves to have a dance from a radio host Ray Hardley.
31:12
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I cast my mind back to the
31:15
Speaker 10: late eighties when Senator Bishop and I used to trip
31:19
Speaker 10: the light fantastic at Paramatta Lee's club when she was
31:22
Speaker 10: an Eels fan, and I just reminded her of that
31:24
Speaker 10: as she was going home.
31:26
Speaker 2: But honestly, I mean someone who says, I'm not a
31:28
Speaker 2: cake person, even at a wedding, it won't dance.
31:32
Speaker 1: Everyone's a cake person. Everyone's a cake person.
31:35
Speaker 2: I mean, can you get someone more a dult, not
31:38
Speaker 2: a cake persona.
31:41
Speaker 1: Cake and dance and I'll get on now.
31:44
Speaker 10: Listen, Look, if you build, if you build anything, whether
31:49
Speaker 10: it's a commercial building, a block of flats, or a ham,
31:53
Speaker 10: at the end of the day, there's always a variation
31:56
Speaker 10: because you want different color paint, you want this, you
31:59
Speaker 10: want that, And the builder said, well, laying on the
32:01
Speaker 10: fixed price was for that.
32:03
Speaker 1: You've done that.
32:04
Speaker 10: But I've never heard of a variation from eight hundred
32:06
Speaker 10: and eighty six thousand to one point six million four
32:10
Speaker 10: not a house, not a block of flats for one
32:13
Speaker 10: single room. It must be goal leaf everywhere. I mean,
32:18
Speaker 10: how do you spend that much money? And of course
32:20
Speaker 10: from the party style they hate things they chat with
32:24
Speaker 10: Donald Trump. The Greens from a party that talks about,
32:27
Speaker 10: you know, spread the wealth, come on all. I mean, honestly,
32:32
Speaker 10: they must have goal taps in Nebraska and the toilet
32:35
Speaker 10: or something. I don't know how you can spend that
32:37
Speaker 10: much money on one room and then have the height
32:39
Speaker 10: and audacity to make out there's not a problem about it.
32:42
Speaker 10: And the government's as culpable as the Greens for allowing
32:44
Speaker 10: it to happen.
32:45
Speaker 4: It's just appalling.
32:46
Speaker 2: Now, Ray, we've you and I have spoken a couple
32:49
Speaker 2: of times about this devastating Taipan helicopter crash from twenty
32:54
Speaker 2: twenty three.
32:54
Speaker 4: Four servicemen were killed.
32:56
Speaker 2: Well, now the loved ones of Lieutenant Maxwell Nugent, Captain
33:00
Speaker 2: Daniel Lyon, Warrant Officer Class too, Joseph Laycock, and Corporal
33:05
Speaker 2: Alex Naggs have done an interview and they're demanding justice
33:10
Speaker 2: for their deaths. It's the families of these servicemen. This
33:13
Speaker 2: is what they had to say last night.
33:16
Speaker 4: I think the truth hasn't been told.
33:20
Speaker 1: I could have accepted if they'd died at war. I
33:26
Speaker 1: can't accept negligence.
33:29
Speaker 2: So Ray, we're still to see the inquiry, which is
33:33
Speaker 2: set to be released, but already some of the family
33:36
Speaker 2: members are blaming this high tech helmet top out that
33:41
Speaker 2: you've spoken about previously on the show.
33:44
Speaker 1: We'll go to declare an interest because.
33:48
Speaker 10: Two of the people who were peared last night, Dan
33:50
Speaker 10: Nugent and Mary are dear friends of my wife and
33:52
Speaker 10: therefore dear friends of mine, and I knew Max as well.
33:55
Speaker 10: My wife knew Max from being a small boy, and
33:58
Speaker 10: I knew him as an adult, a young man who
34:00
Speaker 10: aspiring to.
34:00
Speaker 1: Be a pilot.
34:03
Speaker 10: And I gave evidence of the inquiry where we'll see
34:05
Speaker 10: the results come from Margaret mcmurdoy next year. And the
34:08
Speaker 10: reason I was asked to give evidence at the inquiry
34:11
Speaker 10: i'd set on air on radio that i'd spoken to
34:14
Speaker 10: Max about top ol.
34:15
Speaker 1: Top Ol is a visor that gave over.
34:17
Speaker 10: The top of the helmet and instead of having a
34:20
Speaker 10: control panel, you see all this information on the visor.
34:24
Speaker 10: And Max was telling me he'd prefer the old fashioned
34:28
Speaker 10: night goggles because from time to time, when you tilt
34:30
Speaker 10: your head to one side or the other, the top
34:32
Speaker 10: ol inverted.
34:33
Speaker 4: Oh wow, so he actually told you.
34:35
Speaker 10: He told me that in a conversation we had. He
34:38
Speaker 10: didn't make a big deal of it, he said, but
34:39
Speaker 10: I'd rather have the night goggles, and so I said
34:41
Speaker 10: that on air. So I went and gave evidence. I
34:43
Speaker 10: was treated quite well by Margaret Murday, but a council
34:46
Speaker 10: for the Army treated me like some sort of imbecile,
34:49
Speaker 10: pretending I'd made this up. And I was quite upset
34:51
Speaker 10: and quite angry at them while giving evidence, as you
34:55
Speaker 10: should be. Ian Wilson, who appeared on the show last night,
34:58
Speaker 10: is perhaps one of the most to acclaim test pilots
35:01
Speaker 10: the Army's ever had. He told them years ago that
35:04
Speaker 10: this top owl was folding, and yet they let these
35:08
Speaker 10: young men go out. Now it was apparently okay, in
35:10
Speaker 10: really good conditions, but that night was a dreadful night,
35:12
Speaker 10: a dreadful night off the coast of Queensland. And I'm
35:16
Speaker 10: sure that Margaret Murder, given her distinguished service as a
35:19
Speaker 10: jurist in Queensland, will come up with the right answers
35:23
Speaker 10: for the family. I went to a charity golf day,
35:26
Speaker 10: a fundraiser for legacy, and I was in the company
35:30
Speaker 10: of Daniel Lyne, his wife who appeared last night, obviously
35:34
Speaker 10: Dan and Marianna, and also the family of Joseph le
35:37
Speaker 10: Cock and Alex Knaggs. I could never put myself in
35:41
Speaker 10: their positions. These are beautiful people who've lost four wonderful
35:45
Speaker 10: young men. And the army and I'm going to use
35:48
Speaker 10: a very course expression, off your pardon me, is involved
35:50
Speaker 10: in an ass covering exercise. It's a disgrace, and the
35:54
Speaker 10: Defense Minister equally disgraceful for his lack of interest in
35:58
Speaker 10: this matter. David Shubridge, the Green Senator, might have the
36:02
Speaker 10: one point six million dollar room, but he has been
36:04
Speaker 10: one of the few people in the Federal Parliament to
36:07
Speaker 10: actually offer some help and advice to the families. What's
36:10
Speaker 10: happened to these families and these young men is absolutely
36:14
Speaker 10: be on contempt and it was illustrated last night by
36:17
Speaker 10: Andrew Prape and he's done a really good job on this.
36:19
Speaker 10: I was doing stuff with him when I was still
36:21
Speaker 10: on air, and he did an excellent job on that
36:23
Speaker 10: last night on Channel Line on sixty minutes.
36:26
Speaker 2: We're good on them for doing a deep dive into
36:28
Speaker 2: this issue, and just disgraceful that the Army are more
36:32
Speaker 2: worried about their own publicity and covering themselves and protecting
36:36
Speaker 2: themselves rather than getting to the.
36:37
Speaker 4: Truth of what happened here.
36:40
Speaker 2: Now let's turn to the immigration discussion, because we're seeing
36:44
Speaker 2: on the one side our Position leader Susan Lee. She's
36:48
Speaker 2: saying that the coalition will release the policy by the
36:52
Speaker 2: end of the year. I mean, this is just such
36:54
Speaker 2: a drawn out process. And then you have Pauline Hansen,
36:57
Speaker 2: who her support's already increasing and she was at this
37:00
Speaker 2: anti immigration rally on the weekend. I think if we've
37:03
Speaker 2: got a clip of Pauline we might show that I'm
37:07
Speaker 2: not sure if we do.
37:07
Speaker 4: Maybe not. Under this government, we brought in.
37:10
Speaker 16: Over one and a half million people into the country.
37:14
Speaker 16: That's why you're housing this increase. That's why your health
37:17
Speaker 16: services are second, that's why you have the problems of
37:21
Speaker 16: getting jobs, and the problems that we have in Australia,
37:24
Speaker 16: a lot of it comes from high immigration.
37:28
Speaker 2: So ray you know, you're seeing Pauline come out on
37:30
Speaker 2: issue after issue with very strong convictions.
37:34
Speaker 4: And then you have the Liberal Party.
37:36
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it should have her positions, but they
37:38
Speaker 2: don't know what they stand for.
37:40
Speaker 4: There's no conviction.
37:42
Speaker 10: Well I heard Pricey mile mate talk to you previously
37:44
Speaker 10: about what happened with Christas Afternoon and Dan team.
37:48
Speaker 1: They can't bring themselves to say anything about it.
37:51
Speaker 10: Now we had the announcement by the ministers responsible over
37:53
Speaker 10: the weekend in the Telegraph that oh yes, this is
37:57
Speaker 10: going to be really tough, we're going to move forward.
37:59
Speaker 10: There were no Now we all know that Anthony Albanezi
38:02
Speaker 10: has promised to reduce net immigration. He failed to do so.
38:06
Speaker 10: In fact, September we had a record number of arrivals,
38:08
Speaker 10: not just for this year, forever, a record number of rivals,
38:12
Speaker 10: and the numbers just grow like topsy. But they refuse
38:15
Speaker 10: to actually get down and dirty and tell us what
38:17
Speaker 10: they're going to do. The opposition now what they said
38:20
Speaker 10: their motherhood statements. Now, what we're going to do with
38:23
Speaker 10: these people. We're going to make sure they understand our
38:26
Speaker 10: way of life. What if they lie, I mean if
38:29
Speaker 10: they go to Victoria. The way of life is a
38:31
Speaker 10: machete in one hand and a cricket bat in the
38:33
Speaker 10: other or something you know, and then the other thing
38:36
Speaker 10: is and university students that come here they're going to
38:39
Speaker 10: have to learn English. I mean Arthur lectures in English.
38:43
Speaker 10: Isn't that superfluous? If you come here and you can't
38:45
Speaker 10: speak English, you've got a bit of trouble at Sydney,
38:47
Speaker 10: YUNI or minus or anywhere else. So I mean, I've
38:51
Speaker 10: given a time after time after time, I've.
38:54
Speaker 1: Given the benefit of doubt Susan Lee. But if she
38:57
Speaker 1: doesn't do.
38:57
Speaker 10: Something about immigration and energy, which we saw of course
39:01
Speaker 10: inflation climber three point eight percent on the back of
39:04
Speaker 10: Casanova Bowen's energy policies. If she doesn't come out and
39:07
Speaker 10: nunciate sometime in the early new year, after the Christmas
39:11
Speaker 10: break some really positive news to pitch yourself against the government,
39:15
Speaker 10: she'll be like last week's pay. She'll be gone and
39:18
Speaker 10: it'll be either Angus Tyler Andrew Hasey leading the party
39:20
Speaker 10: and hopefully if one of those take charge, they'll give
39:23
Speaker 10: us some meat to the bone.
39:25
Speaker 2: I think the difference is she doesn't know what she
39:28
Speaker 2: believes in, what she stands for, and that was part
39:31
Speaker 2: of her pitch to lead the party. But she wants
39:34
Speaker 2: to have reviews all the time to see what the
39:36
Speaker 2: position should be. Whereas both Angus Taylor and Andrew Hasty,
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Speaker 2: they are in their own ways conviction. Politicians, they don't
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Speaker 2: have to have a review to know what they think.
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Speaker 2: They know what they think, and that.
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Speaker 4: Is what a leader needs.
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Speaker 2: A leader needs that gut instinct to know what a
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Speaker 2: Liberal party position should be on every issue.
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Speaker 10: My experience with politicians, particularly leaders who don't know what
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Speaker 10: they stand for, means they don't stand for anything. They
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Speaker 10: stand for nothing. And that's what she stands for at
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Speaker 10: the moment, absolutely nothing. She's not giving the right of
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Speaker 10: politics any leadership.
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 10: And the stuff you know that was reported on the weekend,
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Speaker 10: you know, immigration policy. This is what they took the
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Speaker 10: bow on a couple of weeks ago when he made
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Speaker 10: you know, you know all of well.
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Speaker 2: Just actually on Chrispowen because I thought of you last
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Speaker 2: week when we had the inflation data and it was
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Speaker 2: revealed that our electricity prices increased by thirty seven percent
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Speaker 2: in a year, and I thought, Ray, your blood pressure would.
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Speaker 1: Have been that way. Well, but because I knew it
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Speaker 1: was coming.
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Speaker 10: But I mean, thirty percent, three point eight percent inflation
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Speaker 10: aspirational Australians can't buy and they can't afford it, and
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Speaker 10: the ones we've got it can't afford it because the
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Speaker 10: interest rates are going to stay level.
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Speaker 1: For at least another year, they tell us, not another year.
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Speaker 10: On the back of that when we were predicting about
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Speaker 10: six months ago they were going to continue to fall
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Speaker 10: interst rates for those young people you know and other
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Speaker 10: people who are playing more. But it hasn't happened, and
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Speaker 10: the Liberal Party doesn't get it.
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Speaker 1: It's wishy washy.
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Speaker 10: Motherhood stuff that doesn't help anyone because all.
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Speaker 1: They are is labor light. That's all they are. They're
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Speaker 1: the same party.
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Speaker 10: But a little bit different, And don't they understand on
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Speaker 10: the world stage at the moment, people grabbing the attention
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Speaker 10: of the people on the other side of the fence
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Speaker 10: in terms of immigration, energy and a whole range of
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Speaker 10: other things which Susan Lee and others within the party
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Speaker 10: don't seem to give.
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Speaker 2: But also just finally, what's also so frustrating is that,
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Speaker 2: you know, despite the fact that our economic situation is terrible,
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Speaker 2: electricity prices increasing by thirty seven percent in a year,
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Speaker 2: you have the Alban Eazy government standing up there in
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Speaker 2: question time every day in just denial, claiming everything is
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Speaker 2: going amazingly Well, well.
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Speaker 10: You know it's missing, and you know it's an age
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Speaker 10: old expression. There's always been going back to Wilson tacking
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Speaker 10: others an attack dog.
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Speaker 1: I mean what we've got as a package of wows true.
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Speaker 10: I mean, I mean honestly, they're you know, they're poodles,
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Speaker 10: the labor doodles.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, where's it been of Gusto?
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: You tell them right? Thank you? As always, I.
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Speaker 2: Know, all right, still to come the fallout from an
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Speaker 2: embryo mixer, which meant a mother gave birth to a
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Speaker 2: stranger's baby, and Australian actor Guy Pierce quits social media
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Speaker 2: after distressing posts about Israel.
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Speaker 4: That's after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back and joining me now live from israel Is
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Speaker 2: Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Sharen Haskell, Charen, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for your time. Now is Rali Sherry, Israeli Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister benjaminetta Ya, who has reportedly written to the Israeli
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Speaker 2: President Isaac Hertzog and asked for a pardon. Now this
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Speaker 2: news breaking overnight. Is this likely to happen? And would
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Speaker 2: Nadiya who have to admit guilt before a parton could
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Speaker 2: be issued?
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Speaker 17: So this is what the president requested, and I don't
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Speaker 17: think it's very likely. I'll say more than that I
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Speaker 17: do understand that, and I know how how much tension
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Speaker 17: and difficulties it poses on a prime miniter to attend
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Speaker 17: the court almost on a daily bas as well. But
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Speaker 17: I have to say on an eternal manner like that
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Speaker 17: Nataniao's trial when it is finished, whether he win or lose,
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Speaker 17: I believe it's a win win situation. The case that
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Speaker 17: was put through is a very weak case. There were
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Speaker 17: many remarks by the judges throughout the last few months
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Speaker 17: about the lack of strength and evidence that they actually
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Speaker 17: have in this file. And though it is very likely
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Speaker 17: that Nataniel will win this case, I believe and I
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Speaker 17: believe that if he does win the case, this will
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Speaker 17: bring some calmness to the people here in Israel. He'll
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Speaker 17: be able to prove his innocent and I think we'll
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Speaker 17: be able to put it better behind us. I think
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Speaker 17: that in a case that he loses it because the
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Speaker 17: case is weak, the public will see it and there's
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Speaker 17: a huge debate about the judicial system, and so I
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Speaker 17: think that most of Israeli public see that as well,
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Speaker 17: and they, you know, it will just reinforce that debate
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Speaker 17: about reforms that are needed in the judicial system here
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Speaker 17: in Israel.
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Speaker 2: As well, very divisive issue in Israel and really probably
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Speaker 2: along the lines of those who support the Prime Minister,
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Speaker 2: you know, think he should have a parton and those
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Speaker 2: who don't you would like to see him face the
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Speaker 2: full consequences. Now, I just want to turn to this
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Speaker 2: issue making global news. Australian pro Palestinian actor Guy Peace.
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Speaker 2: He's now apologized for sharing and this is what he
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Speaker 2: calls misinformation and fossils. He's admitted it about Israel. He's
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Speaker 2: also deleted his social media accounts. Now there's too much
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Speaker 2: to go into here, but he did share content from
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Speaker 2: a white supremacist, Nick Fontes.
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Speaker 4: He posted material.
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Speaker 2: That blamed Israel for the nine to eleventh terrorist attacks.
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Speaker 2: He accused Israeli officials of orchestrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is all beyond the pale.
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Speaker 2: He also said in a recent tweet a post that
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Speaker 2: he's never been so disgusted by a group of people
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Speaker 2: in my life as I am by israelis This has been.
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Speaker 4: Ongoing for some time.
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Speaker 2: Eventually he's acknowledged he's posted misinformation and he's.
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Speaker 4: Deleted his counts.
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Speaker 2: How damaging is someone who shares this sort of content,
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Speaker 2: you know, to.
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Speaker 4: Such a large following.
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Speaker 17: Well, first of all, there's an explosion already of anti
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Speaker 17: Semitism spreading across the globe. I think that when celebrities
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Speaker 17: irresponsibly are sharing those blood libels, the you know, the
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Speaker 17: exact fabrications and stories to try and demonize Jews, Israelis
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Speaker 17: and Jews in general, it's extremely damaging. It's extremely damaging
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Speaker 17: because many people look up to them, many people take
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Speaker 17: their word as a credible fact. And for someone like
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Speaker 17: that was so much following to share fabrication, blood libels,
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Speaker 17: things that are completely detached from reality. You know, it
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Speaker 17: only continued to inflate the plague of antise senators and
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Speaker 17: that we're in that that we're experiencing right now.
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Speaker 2: I just finally, there's reports that there's a new supposedly
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Speaker 2: independent from Hama's news outlet that's launching in Gaza. It'll
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Speaker 2: at least it's launching its English version. This is called
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Speaker 2: I don't know how to pronounce this, but Juice or
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Speaker 2: news Sharana. You know, we've spoken often about the bias
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Speaker 2: of media reporting from Gaza controlled by Hamas. Do you
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Speaker 2: think this supposedly independent outlet will be more credible.
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Speaker 10: I don't know.
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Speaker 17: I don't what's the sources of it, and and and
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Speaker 17: what's behind it. I slowly reporters are allowed to go
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Speaker 17: into Gaza. I you know, I have a lot of
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Speaker 17: concerns for their security, whether there will be walking free
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Speaker 17: free in those streets, experiencing or meeting Hamas officials. We've
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Speaker 17: seen where they are. We know there's many other terrorist
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Speaker 17: organizations who want to target foreigners, wants to abduct foreigners
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Speaker 17: as well, and we've seen in the past, you know,
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Speaker 17: activists who have arrived to Gaza who were violently attacked.
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Speaker 17: But the fact is that this war was one of
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Speaker 17: the most live streamed war. I think every every second
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Speaker 17: person in Gaza have a phone. Everything that's happened there
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Speaker 17: was live stream on social media, on the media, and
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Speaker 17: you know what you've seen even now, the executions, the streets,
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Speaker 17: executions by Hamas. You cannot hide anything. The only thing
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Speaker 17: is that you have to make sure you have a
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Speaker 17: reliable source that is not fabricating stories, whether it is
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Speaker 17: with AI or whether it is with Commas's propaganda team.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, we've seen that some of those
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Speaker 2: supposedly credible news sources are actually Gaza accounts based elsewhere.
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Speaker 4: Scharen, thank you so much as always for your time.
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Speaker 4: Really appreciate. We'll still to come.
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Speaker 2: The fallout continues from the devastating baby mix up as
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Speaker 2: a result.
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Speaker 4: Of switched embryos. More on that after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, monash IVF has been placed under conditions from
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Speaker 2: Victorious Health regulator. This after devastating embryo mix ups earlier
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Speaker 2: this year, when a Brisbane mother gave birth to a
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Speaker 2: stranger's baby and in Melbourne there was the transfer of
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Speaker 2: the wrong embryo into another mother. All right, I'll see
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Speaker 2: you tomorrow night at eight for the big investigation.
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Speaker 4: And here's poor Murray.