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UK Column News Podcast 4th April 2025 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, It's Friday, the fourth Fairpril twenty twenty five, just
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  Speaker 1: after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News. I'm your
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  Speaker 1: host Mac Romson joining me in the studio today. Patrick Kennison,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Patrick.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to be with you.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, and by video link we have Mark Anderson a letter.
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  Speaker 1: In the program, we're going to be covering foreign influence,
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  Speaker 1: the next World Health Assembly and Iran, but we're going
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  Speaker 1: to begin with the US tariffs. Of course, everybody will
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  Speaker 1: be aware of this by night. It's all over the
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  Speaker 1: media that yesterday Donald Trump annoys tariffs and trade right
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  Speaker 1: around the world, and the effect on stock markets has
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  Speaker 1: been pretty devastating. But not only stocks, also oil and
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  Speaker 1: gold had seen price falls, although the goal price seems
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  Speaker 1: to be rallying somewhat today. I here is what Ker
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  Speaker 1: Starmer had to say yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Last night, the President of the United States acted for
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  Speaker 3: his country and that is his mandate. Today I will
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  Speaker 3: act in Britain's interests with mine, and clearly there will
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  Speaker 3: be an economic impact from the decisions that the US
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  Speaker 3: has taken both here and globally. But I want to
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  Speaker 3: be crystal clear we are prepared. So today marks a
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  Speaker 3: new stage in our preparations. We have a range of
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  Speaker 3: levers at our disposal and we will continue our work
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  Speaker 3: with businesses across the country to discuss their assessment of
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  Speaker 3: the options. As I say, our intention remains to secure
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  Speaker 3: a deal, but nothing is off the table.
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  Speaker 1: So there he is making threats and range of levers
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  Speaker 1: that he doesn't have.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if it goes as well as Brexit, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: it should, we should have nothing to worry about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look at the Trade Center Secretary John Reynolds Jonathan Reynolds,
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  Speaker 1: sorry made a stateman in the Heist of Commons yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He was trying to put a b face on things
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  Speaker 1: and he pointed out that Britain received the lowest reciprocal
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  Speaker 1: tariff rate of anybody globally, and he called for calm
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  Speaker 1: amongst simple answers and loud voices he was complaining about.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, he announced that British businesses would be offered
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to consult on whatever the response is going
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  Speaker 1: to be to this from the government. He was clear
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  Speaker 1: in his speech as well that should a trade deal
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  Speaker 1: be done in the meantime, any measures taken in response
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  Speaker 1: following this consultation period will be immediately dropped. And you
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  Speaker 1: can see the consultation runs until the first of May. There,
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  Speaker 1: and so business leaders in the country apparently being given
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to comment and what kind of retaliatory measures
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  Speaker 1: to take here. But look, let's just see a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of Trump's announcement.
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  Speaker 4: This is our great Secretary of Commerce, Howard Ludnik. Thanks.
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  Speaker 4: So if you look at that China first row, China,
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  Speaker 4: sixty seven percent, that's tariffs charged to the USA, including
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  Speaker 4: currency manipulation and trade barriers. So sixty seven percent. I
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  Speaker 4: think you can, for the most part see it. Those
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  Speaker 4: with good eyes with bad eyes. We didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: bring the it's very windy out here. We didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to bring out the big charge because it had no
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  Speaker 4: chance of standing. Fortunately, we came armed with a little
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  Speaker 4: smaller chart. So sixty seven percent. So we're going to
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  Speaker 4: be charging a discounted reciprocal tariff of thirty four percent.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 4: In other words, they charge us, we charged him, We
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  Speaker 4: charged them less. So how can anybody be upset?
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  Speaker 1: How can anybody be upset? Patrick? And I my first
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  Speaker 1: comment on this, if we just if we just put
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  Speaker 1: the board back on here. This is very net and
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  Speaker 1: Yahoo right here, nettan Yahoo's standing in the United Nations,
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  Speaker 1: if you remember with his board showing the map and
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  Speaker 1: all this kind of he likes to present with these boards.
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  Speaker 1: Trump has clearly decided to get on that bandwagon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's looked like it's like show and tell, you know,
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  Speaker 2: from primary school. He's a look, we've done the work.
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  Speaker 2: Look I swear we've actually done the work. Here. Chat
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  Speaker 2: GPT generated this chart for us, and actually this is
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  Speaker 2: what people are criticizing them for. They say that they
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  Speaker 2: got this straight off of chat GPT and these sort
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  Speaker 2: of basically differentials in trade and so there's no science
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  Speaker 2: really or no sort of thought that's really gone into
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  Speaker 2: it other than they've just come out with these arbitrary
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  Speaker 2: numbers based on existing trade deficits, and so it's discounting
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  Speaker 2: all of the relationships that you might have with all
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  Speaker 2: these individual countries. So, Mike, it's incredible, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Mark, let's bring you out to the program. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate absolutely that you may have a different view of
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  Speaker 1: this announcement than us in the studio, So you tell
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  Speaker 1: us what do you think about it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, as we know.
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  Speaker 6: On April second, Wednesday, Trump character it as a day
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  Speaker 6: of liberation, and he called it a declaration of economic independence.
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  Speaker 6: And it's based on some executive orders. This what we're
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  Speaker 6: seeing on the screen is one of those orders that
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  Speaker 6: provides the basis for this, regulating imports, for the reciprocal tariff,
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  Speaker 6: directify trade practices that contribute to large and persistent annual
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  Speaker 6: US trade deficits. So he's after what he calls fair
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  Speaker 6: trade to try and reduce trade deficits. And the basic
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  Speaker 6: history of this is on January twentieth, he signed in
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  Speaker 6: America first Trade Policy presidential Memorandum to look into the
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  Speaker 6: causes of trade deficits. Then on February thirteenth, he signed
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  Speaker 6: another presidential memorandum entitled Reciprocal Trade and Tariffs. And then
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  Speaker 6: on April first, the day before this big announcement, he
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  Speaker 6: received the final results of those two initial investigations. And
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  Speaker 6: then what he did on April second is the result,
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  Speaker 6: he said, of those investigations.
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  Speaker 5: He did make an.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting reference while calling for fair trade and talking about
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  Speaker 6: making America wealthy again, another one of his slogans. He
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  Speaker 6: explained in this Rose Garden speech that from seventeen eighty
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  Speaker 6: nine to nineteen thirteen, the US was a tariff based
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  Speaker 6: nation in terms.
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  Speaker 5: Of generating federal revenue.
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  Speaker 6: But in nineteen thirteen, and he's correct in this, the
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  Speaker 6: federal income tax was created. Citizens were forced to find
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  Speaker 6: from their salaries and wages from their traditional Lampoory Boughter's edge,
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  Speaker 6: and Trump called the whole US position being dependent on
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  Speaker 6: the income tax and not tariffs. He called it economic surrender.
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  Speaker 6: And he said that after about a century of that
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  Speaker 6: economic surrender, he wanted to end this bombardment against the
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  Speaker 6: US and what he turned economic warfare.
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  Speaker 5: So it's an interesting point of view.
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  Speaker 6: He talked about the US charging two point four percent
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  Speaker 6: tariffs on motorcycles, but Vietnam charging seventy five percent for
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  Speaker 6: US motorcycles, US charging two point five percent tariffs on autos,
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  Speaker 6: other nations charged the US at least ten percent. He
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  Speaker 6: noted that ninety four percent of the cars used in
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  Speaker 6: Japan are made in Japan, kind of insinuating that countries
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  Speaker 6: should be more self sufficient and make things for their
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  Speaker 6: own population mainly for their own consumption, and only export
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  Speaker 6: the surpluses. But he did note this, and this is curious.
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  Speaker 6: During the speech, he said, three big pharma companies are
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  Speaker 6: among the companies that are seeing this new economic landscape
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  Speaker 6: and they want to expand their operations significantly in the US,
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  Speaker 6: and that's Johnson and Johnson, Eli, Lilly and Mert. So
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  Speaker 6: he said that with a fair degree of emphasis, guys,
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  Speaker 6: where a big pharma is expected to expand its US
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  Speaker 6: based operations. Now, there's some other Trump tariffs that he mentioned.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe we'll put this one up, but thirty four percent
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  Speaker 6: reciprocal tariffs on China, twenty percent European Union forty six
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  Speaker 6: percent Vietnam, thirty two percent reciprocal tariffs on Taiwan. And
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  Speaker 6: as you guys noted, whatever these countries charged the US,
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  Speaker 6: the US would charge them only roughly half of that.
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  Speaker 6: And Trump sees that as a fairness gesture and not
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  Speaker 6: being too onerous or heavy in terms of the tariffs
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  Speaker 6: that the US would apply. And he did have this
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  Speaker 6: interesting comment. There will be complaints, he said, from the globalists,
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  Speaker 6: from the outsourcers. They were wrong about the Transpacific Partnership.
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  Speaker 6: And I believe myself and you, Mike, have went on
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  Speaker 6: record that the TPP, the Transpacific Partnership was largely a
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  Speaker 6: bad deal. Trump tends to with that, and so he
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  Speaker 6: sees that globalist trade pack as having been a big
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  Speaker 6: negative and that it's good that the US never got
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  Speaker 6: involved in it.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm basically just laying out the pack.
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  Speaker 6: So what he had to say at this point, there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of implications, and there'll be a lot of tremors,
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  Speaker 6: of course, but it does have a lot of positive
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  Speaker 6: points in terms of reorienting the US economy to get
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  Speaker 6: more revenue from the water's edge and less from the
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  Speaker 6: income tax over time. And as I pointed out last week,
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  Speaker 6: if the US would not get ripped off selling currency
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  Speaker 6: to threat to reserve as such a huge loss, that
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  Speaker 6: could be another source of revenue to rectify our relationship
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  Speaker 6: with the Fed and maybe bring the Fed under more
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  Speaker 6: direct Treasury control. But I'll digress on that. But that's
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  Speaker 6: my view on it, and that's the basic facts so far.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, well, I'd like to just get your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on a couple of points there. First of all, the
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  Speaker 1: timeline that he gave at the beginning there, which ended
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen thirteen. The world was a very different place then.
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  Speaker 1: There was no globalization, and tariff's played a somewhat different
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  Speaker 1: role at that time, I would argue, but you know
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  Speaker 1: the issue of whether or not this would ever raise
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  Speaker 1: money which would result in income tax falling or disappearing altogether.
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  Speaker 1: I think the level of debt that the United States
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  Speaker 1: carries at the moment, that is not happening anytime soon.
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  Speaker 1: And the question is could it even happen, even forget
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  Speaker 1: whether Trump's the next three or four years, what happens
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  Speaker 1: following that. I mean, even if Jade Vans were to
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  Speaker 1: become the president, it's not going to happen in his
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  Speaker 1: potential two terms either. So I'm not sure that that
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  Speaker 1: is really a position that can be justified. What are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, certainly Trump is putting the economic system of the
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  Speaker 6: US on a different track.
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  Speaker 5: He's trying to reorientate. You're you're you're absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Right that the amount of debt that the US has
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  Speaker 6: would make it very impractical to replace significantly the income
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  Speaker 6: tax revenue in.
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  Speaker 5: The short term.
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  Speaker 6: I think the thinking appears to be to change the orientation,
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  Speaker 6: to put put the economy and the revenue and things
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  Speaker 6: like that under different footing, and perhaps with something in
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  Speaker 6: mind to make other changes down the road of course, ultimately,
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  Speaker 6: we'd love to see the Federal Reserve be sent packing
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  Speaker 6: and the US create its own debt free currency and
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  Speaker 6: basically nullify a lot of the existing debt because a
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  Speaker 6: lot of it was arrived at through fraud and deceit anyway.
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  Speaker 6: So what would have to happen is there'd have to
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  Speaker 6: be significant monetary and other changes to go along with
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  Speaker 6: this reorientation of revenue base.
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  Speaker 5: The question is is do they have the.
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  Speaker 6: Staying power and the cur and the wherewithal and the
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  Speaker 6: good ideas. It's a little early to predict all where
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  Speaker 6: this will go, but it is a dramatic and interesting change. Nevertheless,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't have a lot of real strong opinions
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  Speaker 6: at this point, but I'll be studying it a little
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  Speaker 6: bit more.
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  Speaker 5: But the America.
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  Speaker 6: Self sufficiency type philosophy, it does have some positive points.
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  Speaker 2: I think the problem like is they're not articulating anything
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  Speaker 2: going forward. It's like they're kind of just doing it
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  Speaker 2: on the hoof, as it were, a couple of quick
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  Speaker 2: comments on some of the things that Trump has said.
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  Speaker 2: There nine of Japanese are buying, you know, selling cars
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  Speaker 2: are from Japan itself. Well that might be because the
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  Speaker 2: Japanese to make better cars. This is also part of it.
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  Speaker 2: And the Japanese prefer to have their own automobiles because
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  Speaker 2: they believe it's superior engineering. And the fact that Big
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  Speaker 2: Pharmo is relocating in the US this is not a
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  Speaker 2: good sign because what's their biggest profit center right now,
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  Speaker 2: Big Pharma, It's vaccines. So what does that tell you?
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  Speaker 2: What's Trump planning to unleash on the American public or
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  Speaker 2: the world. Is another wave of vaccines, another fake pandemic.
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  Speaker 2: This is not just doesn't give us a lot of
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  Speaker 2: confidence at all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm sure we're going to be talking much
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  Speaker 1: more about this and extra but Patrick, what have you
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  Speaker 1: got on?
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is Caroline Levitt is his mercurial White House
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  Speaker 2: Press secretary, and she's hitting back because there's been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of negative pushback on the tariff announcements. And here's
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  Speaker 2: her from the White House lawn.
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  Speaker 7: This is a national emergency. We have a one point
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  Speaker 7: two trillion dollar trade deficit. We've had ninety thousand factories
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  Speaker 7: closed across our heartland. We've had five million manufacturing jobs
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  Speaker 7: go overseas since nineteen ninety seven. And President Trump is
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  Speaker 7: finally doing something about it. By implementing these reciprocal teriffs.
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  Speaker 7: It's the golden rule for the Golden Age of America.
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  Speaker 7: As for prices and what the American public can expect,
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  Speaker 7: they can expect price stability, they can expect to buy American.
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  Speaker 7: It's a patriotic thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: So the problem is America doesn't produce enough goods to
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  Speaker 2: quote buy American. She's saying it's a national emergency. He
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  Speaker 2: couldn't have done this by executive order unless they're declaring
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  Speaker 2: a national emergency. And apparently it was the hook for
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  Speaker 2: this was fentonol was coming through like the Mexican border,
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  Speaker 2: So you do a global trade overhaul as a result
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  Speaker 2: of that doesn't quite make sense. And she's saying this
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  Speaker 2: is a national emergency because we have a trade deficit
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  Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety seven. Well that's the slowest emergency in
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  Speaker 2: the history of humanity. Thirty years to figure out you've
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  Speaker 2: got an emergency. No, this is globalization, Mike, That's all
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  Speaker 2: it is. And unfortunately wals Street has redesigned itself, as
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  Speaker 2: has the city of London. Look at the Mayfair set
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  Speaker 2: and you learn the history of how you asset strip
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  Speaker 2: companies and offshore everything and benefit from the labor a
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  Speaker 2: cost differential that is globalization. It's been better for the
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  Speaker 2: bottom line for the S and B five hundred companies.
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  Speaker 2: It's been good for the stock market, good for Trump
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  Speaker 2: and all his friends and his billionaire buddies. And now
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we want to reverse everything overnight
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  Speaker 2: without arguably without thinking it through so much. So here's
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  Speaker 2: the world reaction from some of the other global leaders.
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  Speaker 2: We heard from Kure Starmer earlier or what his statement was.
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  Speaker 2: Here's some other of world leader's reaction to Trump's tariffs.
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  Speaker 8: There is going to be an impact on the US economy,
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  Speaker 8: which we'll build with time and our judgment. It will
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  Speaker 8: be negative on the US economy that will have an
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  Speaker 8: impact on us. We are going to fight these tariffs
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  Speaker 8: with countermeasures. We are going to protect our workers, and
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  Speaker 8: we are going to build the strongest economy.
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  Speaker 9: The teriffs will also hurt consumers around the world. It
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  Speaker 9: will be felt immediately. Millions of citizens will face higher
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  Speaker 9: grocery builds, Medication will cost more as well as transportation.
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  Speaker 9: Inflation will go up. The costs of doing business with
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  Speaker 9: the United States will drastically increase. And what is more,
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  Speaker 9: there seems to be no order in the disorder.
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  Speaker 3: President Trump referred to reciprocal tariffs.
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  Speaker 5: A reciprocal tariff would be zero, not ten percent.
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  Speaker 10: We believe the recent measures and other broad trade restrictions
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  Speaker 10: imposed by the US government could have a significant impact
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  Speaker 10: on economic relations between Japan and the US, and ultimately
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  Speaker 10: on the global economy and the multilateral trading system.
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  Speaker 2: As a whole. Look as far as LITMA test list
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  Speaker 2: miss tests go, if you're agreeing with Ursula vonderline, you
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  Speaker 2: know that the world is topsy turvy. Things are not
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  Speaker 2: going well for the Trump administration. So the first time
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  Speaker 2: I've ever heard her speak since in how many years
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  Speaker 2: she's been installed as the head of the EU. So
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  Speaker 2: this is united the World against the United States. This
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  Speaker 2: is what it's done. It's caused and increased a decoupling
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  Speaker 2: from not only from the US, but just from the
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  Speaker 2: East and the West. Along with all the other sanctions
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  Speaker 2: and the economic warfare that could ensue from this MIC,
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  Speaker 2: especially with China and some of these other Asian tigers,
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  Speaker 2: could be devastating for the US, but also for the
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  Speaker 2: global economy in general. We're looking at a recession. If
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  Speaker 2: there is a recession, they're not going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to sell it and blame it on Biden, even if
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  Speaker 2: it's true that we have inherited trends from the Biden administration.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be laid at the feet of Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 2: and this is going to hurt him and hurt the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans in the midterms and also in the next general election.
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  Speaker 2: So there's harm that's been created here to other weaker
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  Speaker 2: countries and that has not been addressed. We're told that
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  Speaker 2: Trump did not have any forward diplomacy at all. There's
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  Speaker 2: no consultation with any of these countries. They literally just
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  Speaker 2: put this out on the hoof. So, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: on many levels, it's a disaster, and we'll see the
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  Speaker 2: stock market. Well, let's take a look at the stock
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  Speaker 2: market for a moment. Here. Stock markets have been hit globally.
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  Speaker 2: Let's look at just how bad the S and P
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  Speaker 2: five hundred futures accelerated losses now down minus three to
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  Speaker 2: four percent in four minutes, So it took a massive
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  Speaker 2: tumble in just a short space of time after Trump
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  Speaker 2: signed the executive order tariffing basically everyone. One point three
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  Speaker 2: trailing of market gap erased in just under four minutes.
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  Speaker 2: That's a new world record.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's making lots of money out of that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you better believe it. So yeah, that's the other
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  Speaker 2: thing is you'll see some of these edge funds have
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  Speaker 2: done absolutely brilliantly, especially if Mike, if they had advanced
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  Speaker 2: knowledge that this was coming down the pipeline. How do
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  Speaker 2: you get advanced knowledge, Well, let me see Howard Lutnick,
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  Speaker 2: Canter Fitzgerald, Scott Bessett. You've got the bankers in there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't suppose any of this leaked out, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't suppose Nancy Pelosi got an ear on it either. Here.
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  Speaker 2: So that's it's what's happened to the stock market. Now,
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  Speaker 2: let's look at the negative effects here for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what are they. Here's a few of them here,
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  Speaker 2: one of them destabilizing a delicate already delicate global trade markets.
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  Speaker 2: Increases cost of business in the US and globally as well.
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  Speaker 2: US exports getting squeezed. Yep, that's going to happen as
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  Speaker 2: well because of the increase in cost domestic US products,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: prices will go up. Okay, and there's other many, many
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: reasons for that. Lower employment in affected industries within the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: U United States. So this is going to cause likely,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: according to many economists, layoffs, Okay, retaliation by targeted country
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: targeted countries, so cancels out any benefits of tariffs imposed.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Now, let's just briefly talk about this, because lots of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: people will be saying, well, of course, this is a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: very good thing, because this is going to bring jobs
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: back into the United States. But this is perhaps if
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you look at this in a vacuum, that might be
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the case, but of course we're not in a vacuum,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and what we are in is the beginnings of the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: so called Fourth Industrial Revolution. We've got more and more automation,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: more and more AI. These jobs aren't going to come
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: back to the United States because the United States is
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: already costing so much in terms of liberal costs. So
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to get those costs down if
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: they're going to compete, and they're going to use that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: automation to do that. So what's the outcome of this
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: universal basic income?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, the US has the highest labor costs in
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the world, highest right now today as of this year,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the highest cost of living on the planet United States
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: on the median, So there's no labor advantage for manufacturing
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: or cost advantage for manufacturing anything. In the United States,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: everything is going to be either overpriced or they're going
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to have to squeeze it so hard to get a
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: profit margin. This is why things are manufactured outside of
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the United States. It's taken thirty or forty years to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: get to this point where they've retooled the entire economy,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: not just the US economy, but the whole global economy.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: The only way the US can be competitive MIC is
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: to have robots manufacture everything. And what's that going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: do to employment? Is that going to raise employment? I
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: think the technocrats will say, well, well, we're just retrain everybody.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: That's what they say at Davos. We're going to retrain
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: everybody to do robot repair. How about that, you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: or you know, get fashion accessories to fashion lines for
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: your robots. Okay, So that this isn't going to work.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: It's ubi it's a technocracy. This is basically, if anything,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: if it's going the way Trump is saying it's going
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: to go, this is going to fast track the forced
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: industrial revolution in America. And guess who's leading the charge
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: on robots replacing humans? Just couldn't be take a wild guess.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk, Klaus Schwab's most favorite protege, Elon Musk. So
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to get conspiratorial about what's
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: really going on behind the scenes, well we don't have
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: to look very far, do we. Let's look at the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: inauguration here. This is when Trump got elected was look
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: at the inauguration here it is this is this is
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the front row of Trump's inauguration, Mike, and there's Elon
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: three hundred million that was the cost of admission to
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: get into the White House. Bought his way in. There's
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos, there's Sunja Pachai I think his name is,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and then we have Mark Zuckerberg. There all these guys
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: front row seats. The tech big tech moguls, the monopolists
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: all get a front row seat. They want a return
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: on their investment. And let's look at who else got
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a front row seat here. Well, of course that's Mary Madelson,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the Israeli lobby. In total, all campaigns, all contributions to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: all races, upwards of six hundred million in the last
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: election cycle. That includes everybody including Donald Trump. Donald Trump's
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: share of that, Mike was about two hundred and thirty
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: five million. So, hey, I suppose we can all afford
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to get a seat at the table. What do you think?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Probably not, So this is just the way it is.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not as an American, this to me is very
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: foreign to have this sort of overt buying your way
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: into the White House. And this used to be done
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: but little more, sort of undercover on K Street and
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: J Street. But now Trump's given them a front row seat.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He's made no bones about he said, you can buy
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: your way into the government. You can buy your whatever
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: agenda you want or whatever legislation you want. The money
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: on the table, I'll everyone will see it. And this
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: is how it's going to be. This is basically creeping
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: towards corporativism in a way that even Benito Mussolini would
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: probably blush at. How overt all of this is so anyway,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: But let's stick with Israel. Well, yeah, let's stick with Israel.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And this is pretty incredible. Here a state visit in Hungary.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That's Victor orban with guests who Benjamin Netiyahu. This is
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: very strange, mic, a four day state visit to Hungary.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: What on earth can you be doing in Hungary? For
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: four days.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. It was Hungry. Sorry, the
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: headline even says it so ICCA. There's a bit of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: a conflict there.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Correct. Hungary is a signatory to the International Criminal Court,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: So what are they going to do? So basically at
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: the same time orban Victor orban The Prime Minister of
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Hungary said Hungary's withdrawing from the ICC. This was a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: staged media event by Israel with with the assistance of
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Hungary here to basically take a shot to undermine the ICC.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: So this is a big public relations move for Israel.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: You think he has other things to do, Natignil. I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Hungary is not a top tier European country. They're doing
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: very well in comparison to I think other European countries.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: But he's clearly Israel's benefiting from this.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Has taken an anti war position and suddenly this is
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Are we saying reversal of that position here?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: No? No, they have a bifurcated foreign policy just like
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the United States. They're dubbish on Ukraine and they're hawkish
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: on Israel and Gaza and so forth. So I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: this is a huge miscalculation personally by Victor orban, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: he will eventually. I think it's going to hurt him
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: down the road, perhaps because Benjaminal is a war criminal
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: by most of the world's standards, except for just a
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: few people. So this is very an interesting development here.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And then just to move on, this is the situation
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: right now in Gaza. Unbelievable. What's happened over the last week.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: And I know everybody has seen this type of footage
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: over and over and you've probably had enough of it,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and so have I. And I'm sorry to have to
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: show this, but I think it's important that people be
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: reminded this is what's happening today, yesterday, the day before,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the week before, and so forth. The killing has just
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: gone record numbers of Palestinians massacred by the day, just
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: in the last week. So Israel's actually stepped up the
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: killing of civilians in Gaza. So this is just unbelievable.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I have something to say about this, but
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I can't say it as well as this gentleman. His
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: name is Alan Mizrahi, by his own admission, a former
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Israeli as he calls himself. But he's really an incredible
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: voice for humanity. Really, let's listen to what he put
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: on X just today.
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: They have seen all of it. They have seen everything
• 27:09
  Speaker 11: that we have seen.
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: Every member of every parliament, every journalist, every.
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: International judge and institution and agency, every PM, every president,
• 27:24
  Speaker 11: every king, every counselor. They have seen everything that we
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: have seen. They have seen all of it. They have
• 27:34
  Speaker 11: seen the dismembered children. They have seen them under the rubble,
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: dead and sometimes alive. They have seen it with their
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: own eyes. They have seen everything that we have seen.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: They have seen the children bleeding and dying on hospital floors.
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: They have seen the parents holding their dead babies. They
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: have seen families exterminated to the last member. They have
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: seen the broken communities. They have seen the burned and
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: bombed hospitals. They have seen you and shelters being destroyed.
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: They have seen cemeteries being raised. They have seen all
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: of it. They have seen people in tents being burned
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: alive in the hundreds and thousands. They have seen everything
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: that we have seen and brought us to the brink
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: of not wanting to live anymore. Because we are normal
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: and this is the normal reaction to what we see,
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: and they have seen all of it with us. They
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: are watching it with us, and they see nothing. They
• 28:55
  Speaker 11: see nothing, and they continue to stand with Thisrael.
• 29:00
  Speaker 12: Member of every parliament from New Zealand to Australia, to Canada,
• 29:06
  Speaker 12: to the US, to Britain, to Spain, the Portugal, to Belgium,
• 29:12
  Speaker 12: to Greece, the Turkey, to every Muslim in Arab country.
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: They have seen everything that we have seen and they
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: say nothing. They say nothing, and they continue to support
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: is right. Then continue to.
• 29:31
  Speaker 12: Stand with the general side.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Obviously it's a longer statement than that might but I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: do encourage people to follow Alan ms Rahi on x
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and Twitter and he puts out some great takes. Obviously
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I've interviewed him over the summer, like to get back
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in touch, but he really just kind of put it together. Look,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it's it's the last thing I'll say on this, and
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: it's a really important point. Trump wrote into office on
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: this ceasefire deal like he was the peace president. Okay,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And on March eighteenth, Israel resumed bombing of tents with
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: refugees in places like Conunis and in Gaza City now
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: just this week. So there was no pushback from Trump
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: or Whitcaw for any of his team. So Israel broke
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: this great ceasefire and there was no complaints, no pushback,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: no attempt by the White House. You know what this means,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: that was never a ceasefire deal. Nettignat who came to
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Washington is the beginning of February and what they agreed on.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It looks to me it's very likely what they agreed
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: on was not a ceasefire, but a pause, a pause
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to rearm, so that Israel in the United States could reorganize,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: rearm and continue this genocide and policy of ethnic cleansing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: That's what this is. And this is to me one
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of the biggest deceptions, one of the most willful in
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the history of any US leadership ever. Okay, Donald Trump
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: and his whole teaming, if Wickcough has knowledge of this,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: they should be indicted for war crimes, for being a party,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: for being a co belligerent in this huge deception of
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: a fake ceasefire ploy There is no more leeway that
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: we can give Trump anymore because he took all the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: credit for being a ceasefire president and look what he's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: done here, not a word of pushback on the Israelis
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: when they resume this and started bombing South Lebanon as well.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: So this was a ruse quite clearly. So anybody still
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: apologizing for the Trump administration or calling them Steve Witcoff
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: a great peace negotiator, utter boulder dash. That's all I'm
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: going to say on that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm sure we'll be talking more on that
• 31:54
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  Speaker 1: on then, and well, the Home Office has announced the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: expansion of the so called foreign influence registration scheme. They
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: said to those being directed to conduct well, let's just
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: put the graphic on screen first of all, sorry, but
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that here we are. So they said, to those being
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: directed to conduct hostile acts on UK soiled by the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Russian state, we're offering a clear choice expose their actions
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: or faced jail. That's the Russian actions, they alleged Russian actions.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: We're better equipping law enforcement with intelligence to disrupt Russian operations.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: So that was the position. Now. On April Fool's Day,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Dan Jarvis made a statement to the House of Commons.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: But before we look at what he said, here's a
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: short video clip. Off we put this ode on X
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I think yesterday.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: If anyone has.
• 34:56
  Speaker 13: Been asked by a foreign power to carry out political
• 34:59
  Speaker 13: activity with in the UK, or has been asked to
• 35:02
  Speaker 13: do any activity for the Russian or Iranian state, they
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: will need to register under the Foreign Influence Registration Scheme.
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: This scheme will help us to understand the scale and
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: nature of this activity. Registering won't mean they can't carry
• 35:16
  Speaker 13: out that task or that it's wrong, and we understand
• 35:19
  Speaker 13: that people are more likely to register if they have
• 35:22
  Speaker 13: nothing to hide. Doing so will help us better understand
• 35:26
  Speaker 13: who is trying to act covertly. By shining a light
• 35:29
  Speaker 13: on these actions, we are helping secure the UK from
• 35:32
  Speaker 13: covert interference. It's about transparency, accountability and keeping our country safe.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: So don't worry if you've got nothing to hide, you've
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: got nothing to fear apparently, But the question is what
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: does he mean by if anyone has been asked. Well,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we'll come back to that question in a minute. But
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: in the Heust of Commons, Jarvis explained that the Foreign
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Influence Registration Scheme is a fundamental component of the National
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Security Act, which the Housest passed in twenty twenty three.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: He said the Act was a response to the evolving
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: threat of hostile activity from states targeting the UK. He
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: went on to claim that six charges have been brought
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: against individuals in the UK with five other individuals linked
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to those six charges being charged with other unrelated defenses.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: But he talked about two tiers of activity being defined.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: So we've got political and we've got enhanced. So we've
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: got the political influenced tier of the scheme, which applies
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to all states, he said, which will allow the UK
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to be better informed about the nature, scale and extent
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: of foreign influence in the UK's political system. And the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: enhanced tier of the scheme has been specifically designed to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: shed light on activities directed by those foreign powers or
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: entities whose activities posed a threat to the safety and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: interests of the UK. So last month, he said, I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: set our intention, set out our intention to specify Iran
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: under this tier of the scheme. The question is who
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: are the targets of this? And well, and you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: in fact, earlier I asked if anyone you know his comment,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: if anyone has been asked by a foreign state, if
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: you remember in his video clip, well so been. Who's
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the targets of this? Well, people like Chris Williamson, perhaps
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: David Miller, both of them present programs on Press TV,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: will undoubtedly be targets.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Richard Mahurst, Richard Medhurst, for example, but basically people doing journalism.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, absolutely, And the question is were they asked
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: by the Iranian state to present programs on Press TV,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: because that's what the legislation is about, at least to
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: a significant degree. And if you remember, David Miller was
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: stopped in early March by anti terrorism police when he
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: came back to the UK from Beirud. Let's just remind
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: yourselves why that was.
• 37:56
  Speaker 13: So.
• 37:56
  Speaker 14: I was detained on the Schedule saving of the Terrorism
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: Act when I came back from Route on Monday nights
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: the twenty fourth, and the reason for that was, of course,
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: because I'd been at the funeral for said Hassan Mazarella
• 38:08
  Speaker 14: the NB route and I had posted on x a
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: number of posts about my experience at the funeral, with
• 38:14
  Speaker 14: shots of the actual ceremony itself. As a result, zion
• 38:17
  Speaker 14: Is Twitter went absolutely crazy, started mass reporting me to
• 38:20
  Speaker 14: the police, Anonymous trolls, known personalities, zions lobby groups all
• 38:24
  Speaker 14: calling for me to be stopped and detained under Schedule seven.
• 38:29
  Speaker 14: And then the Daily Mail just after midnight, and then
• 38:32
  Speaker 14: the Telegraph later on that day, and the Telegraph had
• 38:34
  Speaker 14: a quote from Robert Jenrick, the former Housing minister who
• 38:38
  Speaker 14: called for me to be arrested, said I was supporting
• 38:41
  Speaker 14: terrorism and wasn't even hiding my anti Semitism. And of
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: course Robert Jenrick has form in this regard courses for
• 38:47
  Speaker 14: ractical Zionist and he tried to get me sacked from
• 38:50
  Speaker 14: my job at the University of Bristol, in which he
• 38:52
  Speaker 14: was partially successful. So that's why I was stopped and
• 38:55
  Speaker 14: detained under scheduled seven, because the Zionis bounced the police
• 38:58
  Speaker 14: into doing it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: And at the end of March he was again targeted,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: on this time by the Board of Deputies, the British
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Jews who wrote to the Home Office over what they
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: describe as the ancendiary rhetoric of disgraced former academic David Miller.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: We have serious concerns. They said that he is directly
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: inciting violence against Jewish individuals and institutions in this country.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just such total nonsense. But we're talking
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: about Patrick. If we're talking about foreign influence here, why
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: is Israel not on the enhanced list, the enhanced tior
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: of this peace of legislation.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I mean, the irony of
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that the Board of Deputies and the Israeli lobby basically
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: organizing leaning on the government to target and investigate someone
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like David Miller. Okay, is that not foreign meddling and
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: foreign influence? Because as far as I know, David Miller
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: has a very long career track record of talking and
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: covering and researching these subjects academic and peer review literature
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and so forth, his whole career. So it's not like
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: he just started doing this yesterday. This has been his
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: whole life's work. But all of a sudden it became
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: had a high political cost for this foreign lobby that
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: operates in the US, operates in Britain, and operates in Brussels.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: So I mean, if we're going to talk about foreign influence,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: which country has the most influence in our governments in
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the West. Well, it's pretty clear, especially looking at what
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: we showed you from the White House in Washington, unprecedented
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: levels of influence from the state of Israel. So it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: only fair that that should be on the table for discussion.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, so Iran added to the enhanced tier for that legislation.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: But what's going on with Iran at the moment? Are
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: we going to war?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: This is the big question. Mike and this is a
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: very worrying situation, and even more worrying by the fact
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that it's total silence from many governments on this. Everyone's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: just paralytic about it. Let's bring this up on screen.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: So what are we looking at as this war fever. Well,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: it certainly looks like it. We could very well be
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: mike weeks away or less from some kind of a
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: preemptive strike against Iran. Hence, this is why governments are
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: raising their retric they're anti Iranian retric because I think
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: they're consolidating for what might be coming just now. So
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: we'll go back here. So this is from the Israeli press,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: the Times of Israel, or as some people call it,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the Genocide Observer, based in Tel Aviv. Trump threatening here.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: He's saying there will be bombing if Iran fails to
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: make deals on nukes. This is an extraordinary situation. He's
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: demanding that Iran come to the table to sign a
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Nucletar deal, just like the Nucletar deal Trump himself tore
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: up in May of twenty eighteen during his first term.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: There was a perfectly good deal with all these foreign
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: countries as guarant tours is called the JCPUA and the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: P five plus one guaranteeing it was absolute transparency, total supervision,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and Trump, at the orders of Israel at the time
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that Denar Who's office, through Mike Pompeio, the Secretary of State,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: tore up this agreement. Now he's threatening a preemptive nuclear
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: strike because Trump's knew. And this is the read between
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: the lines, folks. Trump put a new nuclear doctrine forward
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that says that they have to use tactical, low yield
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons to penetrate underground facilities in Iran. Okay, So
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: that's a preemptive nuclear strike against a country that doesn't
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: have nuclear weapons or there's no evidence. How do we
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: know this, Well, I'll just take the word of the
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Director of National Intelligence who testified in front of the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Senate last week that Iran is not building any bombs,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: does not have any nuclear weapons, although they are a
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: nuclear threshold state, which means they could they could produce
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: them if they wanted to. So basically, Trump's threatening Iran
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: over something his own DNI has as they don't have.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is an incredible series of events here,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: and so let's look at the reaction from the Iranian
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: leadership here. This is a supreme leader. So this is
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: actually very important. We actually broke this on x S basis,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I think on Sunday night. And now this is from
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Ali Laras Johanni. This is the senior advisor of the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Supreme Leader Iatola Kammane. He's saying, we are not moving
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: forward towards nuclear weapons. But if you do something wrong
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: in the Iranian nuclear issues talking to the US, you
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: will force Iran to move towards that because it has
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to defend itself. In other words, Trump has threatened Iran
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: with annihilation if they don't come to the negotiation table.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you might it's not a very
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: good negotiation tactics if you want the other side to
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: come to the table. So this is again an amateur
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: hour and just on the hoof no diplomacy acumen whatsoever
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: by the Trump administration. So what's the issue here? We'll
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: bring this up on here, this is the JCPUA. What
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: what are we looking at here? What do we need?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: What do we need? We're always talking about problems on
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: this show, and everyone's always complaining about solutions. So let's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: give you a solution. I have a solution. Okay, here
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: it is JCPOA number two. Okay, what does JCPA number
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: two look like? Well, Mike, it can look like many things.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: But I think if it's going if there's going to
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: be another Iran nuclear deal, it can't just be Iran
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: at the table because they're not they don't have nuclear weapons.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: But one country in the Middle East has nuclear weapons.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: The State of Israel has a nuclear arsenal between two
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and three hundred warheads. So you can't have Iran without
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Israel in a new JCPOA agreement. It's time that Israel
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: declares its nukes to the world and becomes transparent. Otherwise this,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: this whole thing is not going to work. And you know,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: many people have commented on this over the years, Mike,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: about Israel's secret nuclear weapons arsenal, and it's effectively destabilized
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the Middle East because they're able to engage in nuclear
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: blackmail and nuclear extortion. So everybody has to sign the
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Non Proliferation Treaty except for Israel. And this has been
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the case for so very long, and they've they've been
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: allowed to have this secret arsenal ever since John F.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Kennedy was president, and Kennedy actually made this a major issue,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately he was assassinated in nineteen sixty three after
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: demanding that Israel allow inspectors in and be a signatory
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to the NPT. Okay, So this after Kennedy was killed.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: This has been a moot issue as far as the
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: US is concerned politically, So this isn't really going to work.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: And so imagine that all this is happening while Israel
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: is in the international courts of justice for it genocide, okay,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: and they have nuclear weapons, while their president or their
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: prime minister and their defense minister Joev Galant and Natiyahu
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: are both in the dock for war crimes in the ICC.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So if you want to talk about rogue states unstable governments,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: you don't have to look any further than the state
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: of Israel. And again, this has been an issue with
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: It used to be an issue back in nineteen sixty
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: three when this man was president. Okay, he was trying
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to compel Israel. And by the way, this isn't just
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: me saying this. This is from the National Security Archive.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Here we've republished all of the files at twenty first
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: century wire dot com from the US National Security Archive
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: where Kennedy was pushing for inspections and getting massive pushback
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: and a lot of bad energy from the Israeli lobby
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: at the time. In nineteen sixty two and sixty three,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: they wanted inspectors in Demota, Israel said no way. Then
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Kennedy was assassinateing. I'm not saying those two events are
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: absolutely connected, but I will say that they correlate. Let's
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: just put it even there for the moment. So in summation, Mike,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: it's really about this. If there's going to be a JCPOA, Okay,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: you've got all the players there, the guarantors in Iran
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: on that side, You're going to have to have Israel
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: on this side. It's just going to have to be
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: that way. Otherwise this is not going to be a
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: credible conversation. And this is really the problem. This is
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: at the core of everything. Now. I put out a
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: summary of this plan. I've got great feedback from this.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: People from Iran journalists have said they like it, people
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: from Russia have said they like it. Other European countries,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I've got a really good positive feedback from this. This
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: is up on my ex account, impossible solution. So it
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: goes like this, Mike, either both of them have no nukes,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Israel and Iran, or if Israel's allowed to keep its
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: nukes as an NPT signatory, then Iran should be able
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: to have nukes as well, like Pakistan and India. And
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: look at the situation with Pakistan India, what's the likelihood
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that either of them are going to attack each other
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: with nuclear weapons? Almost all the experts agree zero. So
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: in a way, it sort of balances the two parties out.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So it's either both are not going to have it
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: or both should have it. But you can't have one
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: country keeping a secret weapons arsenal and holding the whole
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: region in the world hostage, which is effectively what Israel
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: has been allowed to do by the United States. They're
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: number one superpower sponsor and underwriter. Okay, this has to end,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and it's coming to a head now. So it's either
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: this or World War three. Okay. So I think this
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: is a good opportunity for transparency and to bring this
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: issue to the surface. It's been buried for so long,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and this is I think a golden opportunity for the world.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Patrick, Mark. Let's bring you back on the
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: program and give us an update that on the upcoming
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: World Health Assembly.
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Well, it's that time again, ladies and gentlemen.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: We're coming around to the spring and the seventy eighth
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: World Health Assembly is taking place the nineteenth through the
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: twenty seventh of May, only twenty five of course, in Geneva, Switzerland,
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: and there is a lot of concern here that the
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: Pandemic Treaty or AKA agreement might be passed.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: The WHO Director General, our friend Tadrose, he gave some
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: comments back in February at the thirteenth meeting of the
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Inner Governmental Negotiating Body, that's the body that's working out
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: the treaty or agreement, And on the seventeenth of February,
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: he had some comments and he basically said, as you know,
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: we're at a crucial point. He wants to move to
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: finalize this Pandemic agreement for the World Health Assembly. It's
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: really a case of now or never. And he's again
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: speaking on the seventeenth of February, he referred to the
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: fourteenth of February and said that the Government of the
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: United States in formed the WHO of its decision to
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: withdraw from the Inner Governmental process. So evidently, I stress
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: the word evidently the US is not involved. Tadros went
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: on to say this because we know that the next
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: pandemic is a matter of when, not if. There are
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: reminders all around us Ebola, marburg measles, mpox, influenza, and
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: of course the nebulous threat of the next disease X.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: He likes to say those kind of things, and he
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: went on to say, no country can protect itself by itself.
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: By lateral agreements will only get you so far. Prevention
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: is the responsibility of all countries, Preparedness is the responsibility
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: of all countries, and response is the responsibility of all countries.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: So he's kind of scolding the US in a way
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: for bowing out, at least ostensibly now. An organization on
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: the fourth of February called Health Policy Watch did note
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: some things that don't get a lot of press. One
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: is that the WHO is short nearly one point nine
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: billion from a planned four point two billion dollar budget
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: for twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven, along with a
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: six hundred million dollar deficit through the end of twenty
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: twenty five, and that one point nine billion dollar gap
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: means the WHO is short nearly forty five percent of
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: the funding it needs to run on even a reduced
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: budget of four point two billion, and the outgoing Biden administration,
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: according to Health Policy Watch, never paid the US twenty
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: twenty four dues to the WHO of one hundred and
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: thirty million before Biden left office, which I didn't happen
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: to be aware of. It's interesting the Health Policy Watch
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: did you want to.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: Say, guys?
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: The US gave the WHO nearly one billion in fixed
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: as well as voluntary contributions in twenty twenty two to
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. Altogether, the US ows two hundred and
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: sixty million and WHO dues for twenty twenty five five,
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: but the WHO is unlikely to ever receive the money
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: they're saying from Trump, despite an ostensibly legal obligation to
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: pay it. Trump announced in January it was that he's
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: pulling out of the WHO altogether. But it's important to
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: note that under the original rules of the WHO going
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: back to nineteen forty eight, the withdrawal by the US
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: will only be effective one year later, in other words,
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: January of twenty twenty six, so technically the US is
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: still a member of the WHO now. I had a
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: brief conversation with the longtime Treaty activist James Ruguski out
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: of Los Angeles yesterday, and I'm reposting his all important
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: website here because it provides a portal for people to
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: get involved Reject the Treaty dot com. And there's two
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: documents that UK viewers are going to want to look at,
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: thirty reasons to reject the Pandemic Agreement and twenty five
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: reasons to reject the Amendments to the International Health Regulations.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Very important stuff there at Rejectortreaty dot com. Now I
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: got some things here that I jotted down that are
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: miscellaneous but very important. The question is, even though the
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: US said it's backing out of the WHO and as
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: I mentioned, technically and officially, they're not all the way out,
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: will they still send delegates to a planned April seventh
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: through April eleven final treaty negotiating session. That's next week.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: That's this coming Monday through next Friday. So on my
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: report next Friday, I'll have an update on this. But
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: as this slide talks about the treaty talks resumed this
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: coming Monday and run through Friday. That's a continuation of
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: the thirteenth meeting of the I inb where Tadro's comments
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: that I mentioned a few minutes ago were made, and
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: there are a number of other important things to consider.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: So will the US send a delegation to the April
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: seven through eleven talks, maybe to throw a wrench in
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: the works. You know, Trump is skeptical of the who
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: always says he's skeptical of what's going on. He's made
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: some overtures about the treaty in a negative way. But however,
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: Trump has been silent according to Ruguski, and according to
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: my own research on the International Health regulations, which kind
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: of run on a parallel track, and that's actually where
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: a lot of the teeth are, a lot of the
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: injustices and underhanded policies are located, and the way the
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: things work in the in Geneva, if you're silent, that's
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: interpreted as consent. So the Trump administration backing out of
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: the who making a little bit of noise about the treaty,
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: but silent about the International Health rags. And therefore there's
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: been no letter under Article sixty one of the IHR
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: the regulations where the US would formally bow out of
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: those regulations. There ought to be a letter under article
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: sixty one and that has not happened. So it appears
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: the Trump administration, according to the basic interpretation and rules
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: of the WHO, is not against the International Health Regulations.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: And it's also important to note, however, that early in
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: Trump's presidency, practically right after he got inaugurated, there was
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: an executive order that directed the Department of State to
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: sever ties or at least study a broad range of
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: ties with foreign entities. And James Riguski and myself we're
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: talking about it, and we're wondering if that would include
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: anything to do with the International Health Regulations as well
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: as the WHO and anything the WHO does. So that
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: executive order possibly might cut some relationships with the WHO
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: in ways that we're not aware of yet. And it's
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: interesting to note too that under the rules of the
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: International Health Regulations the let me make sure I got
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: this straight here, Yeah, under the rules of that, starting
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: in September, the signatory countries were given ten months to
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: chime in, so that goes until about July nineteenth coming up.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: All the countries involved were giving ten months to rebut
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: or talk about the content of the International Health Regulations.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: So there's open speculation as to whether the US and
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: other countries will raise their voice in time to meet
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: that deadline, which would be about a July nineteenth deadline
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: to be safe.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: And it's just hard to say at this point whether.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Under Article sixty one, whether the US or any other
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: countries will take advantage of that time gap and protest
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: or in any way rebut the International Health Regulation. So
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: those regulations were officially adopted adopted June first of twenty
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: twenty four, but there was this provision to allow a
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: ten month window for comment, but it got delayed because
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: they had to reproduce the International Health Regulations in at
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: least six languages and get rid of any problems in translation.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: So that's the latest. One other thing is that while
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: all this is happening, the twenty fourth through the thirtieth
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: of April has been declared by the WHO to be
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: World Immunization Week, and they're saying that vaccines are one
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: of the greatest achievements of humanity. Since nineteen seventy four,
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: they've saved one hundred and fIF one hundred and fifty
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: four million lives. Excuse me, And of course that's highly questionable.
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: If someone lives a healthy, long life, how do you
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: know for sure that the vaccine is the reason that
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: they did. Maybe they got better sanitation, maybe they had
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: better nutrition, all sorts of things that can raise human
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: immunity without vaccines. How those numbers arrived at, it's difficult
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: to say, but the treaty, of course, could carry a
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: lot of negative connotations and possibly reinstate lockdowns and things
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: like that. So now is the time for a lot
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: of people to go to reject their treaty dot com
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: and do their own research and get involved and raise
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: some cane about this and try and make their voices heard.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: So back to you guys, Thank you, Mark, thank you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: very much.
• 58:33
  Speaker 12: No.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: On Wednesday's program, Sandy Adams was covering an organization called
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Bidstots Let's bring them on screen and the pre procurement
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: noticed by APHA for a provision of agricultural valuation services
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: to the government. There's some criticism of that report, with
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: some suggestions that it was fear mongering. Now the question
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: is was it was the criticism justified And the answer
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: in my view is absolutely not. In many ways, Sandy's
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: report on Wednesday is indicative of the challenge we face
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in producing a news program like this and for example,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: with the best will in the world. Individual reports don't
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: always stand in their own in the sense that they
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: actually need to be seen in the context of previous coverage,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: and this is always a challenge for us to try
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  Speaker 1: to get the full context across within the time limits
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  Speaker 1: that we have now. Sometimes we have to assume some
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  Speaker 1: awareness therefore of what's happened in prior days or weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But some of the One of the best analysis of
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  Speaker 1: Sandy's report on Wednesday came from Claire Willis Harrison from
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  Speaker 1: Lawyers of Light, and I want to draw your attention
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  Speaker 1: to a couple of points from it. But I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to put the URL for this in the show notes
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  Speaker 1: because I absolutely suggest that everybody reads it all. So
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  Speaker 1: let's just have a look at what she said here.
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  Speaker 1: She began by saying that she sees the significant criticism
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  Speaker 1: of the UK column for the segment on this as
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  Speaker 1: being scare mongering due to the alleged framing of the
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  Speaker 1: APHA pre procurement notice as quotes a new thing, and
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  Speaker 1: she said that she didn't agree because renewal was mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: So what I want to do here just is to
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  Speaker 1: just remind yourselves of what Sandy said about this.
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  Speaker 15: Very interesting they put up an advert that they're recruiting
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  Speaker 15: for valuers now and they've renewed their contract, and this
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  Speaker 15: is the renewal of that contract, twenty twenty five renewal
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  Speaker 15: of that contract.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know how many more times Sandy could
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  Speaker 1: have said that this was a renewal. So anybody suggesting
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  Speaker 1: that there was anything other didn't actually pay attention to
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. But not only was renewal mentioned, it was,
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  Speaker 1: as I say, mentioned three times. Anyway, Claire went on
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  Speaker 1: to say this, let's bring it on screen that she
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  Speaker 1: believes more importantly that some things are missing from the
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  Speaker 1: deeper point of that the segment was trying to make
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  Speaker 1: about broader things of government overreach based on suspicion only.
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  Speaker 1: And we're saying a regular regulations across the board in
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  Speaker 1: many sectors, not just agriculture. This is a vital point.
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  Speaker 1: She went on to say, I'm saying this is a
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  Speaker 1: vital point. It's one that's come to no surprise to
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  Speaker 1: anybody who's been paying attention to what we've been saying
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  Speaker 1: for over a decade, beginning with our documentary Slaughtered on Suspicion.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll just mention here by the way passing that
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  Speaker 1: while Malcolm Massey's voice is heard on that and Malcolm
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  Speaker 1: did the edit. Patrick was a huge part of that production.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, maybe some comment on this in a second,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what was this about. This was about
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  Speaker 1: the slaughtering of cattle during the Foot and Mouth Day
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  Speaker 1: Bacle based on modeling by Neil Ferguson from Imperial College.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the same Neil Ferguson who modeled the so
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  Speaker 1: called spread of SARS Cove two which resulted in FI
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  Speaker 1: actively the same on suspicion policy being run on humans
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  Speaker 1: five years ago. This is the same policy that Charles
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  Speaker 1: has been highlighting for the last weeks and months with
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  Speaker 1: so called bird flu. So the point here is there's
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  Speaker 1: a thread running through our coverage over many, many years
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  Speaker 1: which needs to be taken into account and not just
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  Speaker 1: one report. So coming back to Claire then she said this,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't about new policy. It's about saying the same
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  Speaker 1: patterns where suspicion is wielded as a weapon and the
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  Speaker 1: law a shield for the control grid to dominate in
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  Speaker 1: this case agriculture and then eventually ruin it severely threatening
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  Speaker 1: food security. I'm not sticking up for the UK column here,
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  Speaker 1: they're quite capable of doing that for themselves. I was
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  Speaker 1: quite shocked that people are not saying the overall themes
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  Speaker 1: and patterns and that I think the segment was alluding to.
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  Speaker 1: And she ended by saying that actually scares me. It
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  Speaker 1: means that people are not saying the bigger picture. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Patrick, we're a little over time here, but
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  Speaker 1: if you've got a comment on that, because I think
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  Speaker 1: she hit the nail absolutely on the head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've been in this game for many years,
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  Speaker 2: Mike and I take. I take a lot of criticism
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  Speaker 2: with a pinch of salt. Not not to say that
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  Speaker 2: all criticism is, you know, not valid or valid. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the point. The point is that that we
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  Speaker 2: make an effort to go as deep as possible, and
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  Speaker 2: I think most of the audience get who follow this
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  Speaker 2: channel and other channels like it, will understand the bigger picture.
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  Speaker 2: But there's always some people that maybe aren't getting it,
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  Speaker 2: maybe because they've recently quote red pilled on the issue,
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  Speaker 2: or they're kind of maybe new to the coverage and
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  Speaker 2: they don't know the sort of body of work that's
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  Speaker 2: behind it. So that's totally understandable. But all I can
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  Speaker 2: say is that we do appreciate the feedback absolutely, and
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  Speaker 2: even hard feedback. Hard criticisms are most welcome, and we
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  Speaker 2: drew our best to address those in subsequent news programs,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that just strengthens our analysis and coverage,
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  Speaker 2: and it's great to get that feedback. So just the
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  Speaker 2: fact that it's coming through good and bad is most welcome.
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  Speaker 1: So I do urge everybody to read Claire's summary of
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  Speaker 1: that because it is an important point, though, and so
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  Speaker 1: we will leave it at that. I'm going to say
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much to Mark and Patrick for joining
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  Speaker 1: me today and everybody that's watching today. I hope you
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed the program. We hope to see as many as
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  Speaker 1: possible as everybody that's bought a ticket at least at
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  Speaker 1: the event tomorrow, and as many as possible on the
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  Speaker 1: live stream. We will have fun over the weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see you at one pm as usual on Monday.
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  Speaker 5: See you then, all right,