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Mega Edition: Virginia Roberts And Her Legal Struggles Against Epstein And Prince Andrew (8/17/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: we're going to dive right back into the conversation and
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Speaker 1: take a look at what's going on in the lawsuit
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Speaker 1: between Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts. Today, the two thousand
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Speaker 1: and nine agreement between Virginia Roberts and Jeffrey Epstein was
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Speaker 1: made public, and this is the agreement that Prince Andrew
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Speaker 1: and his legal team have hinged all of their hopes on.
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Speaker 1: They're saying that this legal agreement exonerates Prince Andrew and
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Speaker 1: protects him from any sort of civil suit that Virginia
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Speaker 1: would want to bring forward because she took the monetary
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Speaker 1: payout from Jeffrey Epstein. Well, that would be fine, and
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Speaker 1: well if Prince Andrew would have ever even admitted to
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Speaker 1: knowing Virginia, right, that would be a good defense maybe,
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Speaker 1: But that defense goes right out the window when you
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Speaker 1: have admitted that you don't even know who she is,
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Speaker 1: so how can you be a co conspirator? Instead, he
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Speaker 1: has said that he had never met her, that was
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Speaker 1: in him. He has no idea who she is. But
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Speaker 1: now when all of the other stalling tactics and all
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Speaker 1: of the other loopholes and technicalities have not proven to
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Speaker 1: be fruitful. He switched it all up all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: and now it's well, I'm protecting, aren't I? And this
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Speaker 1: is the progression we see with these people, all of
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Speaker 1: these folks that get caught up with Jeffrey Epstein and
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Speaker 1: Glen Maxwell, it's always the same story, Oh, I don't
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Speaker 1: even know who they are. Then that turns into well,
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Speaker 1: we weren't that close, and then from there it goes to, well,
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Speaker 1: we were close, but I had no idea what sort
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Speaker 1: of crimes they were involved in. Then it goes to
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Speaker 1: survivors coming out and saying, well, that person's a liar.
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Speaker 1: That person knew what was going on. See the pattern here, folks,
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Speaker 1: And after all of these years, it's a rather a
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Speaker 1: rather obvious pattern. At this point, these people they have
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Speaker 1: no shame, and Prince Andrew is certainly trying that same
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Speaker 1: exact strategy, at least was trying that same exact strategy
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Speaker 1: until the walls came closing in with Jeffrey Epstein's second arrest.
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Speaker 1: And now this whole entire, real bad situation for him,
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Speaker 1: And I don't mean the civil suit that's bad too.
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Speaker 1: But the Glaine Maxwell situation, it doesn't frame him in
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Speaker 1: a good light because let's remember he was the one
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Speaker 1: who said, well, I was friends with Glaiine Maxwell. She
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Speaker 1: brought Jeffrey Epstein into my life, as if that was
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Speaker 1: a good thing, as if that's something where we would
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Speaker 1: look at the conversation and the situation and be like, ah,
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Speaker 1: you know what, man, the guy just made a mistake.
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Speaker 1: It's not like he was maliciously hanging out with Epstein.
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Speaker 1: And if he would have come forward and would have said, hey,
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Speaker 1: this is what I saw. I want to speak with
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Speaker 1: the FBI. Where do I sit down with you guys,
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Speaker 1: then again, just like Sarah Kellen Vickers last night and
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Speaker 1: yesterday when we talked about her, this wouldn't even be happening,
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Speaker 1: this conversation wouldn't even be happening. But he has chosen
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Speaker 1: not to do that. He has continually chosen to avoid
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Speaker 1: any kind of questioning by the authorities. He has continuously
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Speaker 1: chosen to play deceptive games, and he has continuously chosen
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Speaker 1: to make an absolute jackass of himself and a mockery
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Speaker 1: of the royal family. And he continues to do so
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Speaker 1: each and every day that he prolongs all of this.
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Speaker 1: He should have sat down with the FBI with investigators,
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Speaker 1: could have had his lawyers there the whole thing, come
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Speaker 1: in willingly do the right thing right, But no, he
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Speaker 1: chose not to do any of that. Instead, he went
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Speaker 1: on the Emily Maitley Show thinking he was going to
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Speaker 1: get a softball, and even though she really wasn't throwing
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Speaker 1: you know, Verlander kind of heat, she wasn't, you know,
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Speaker 1: super easy on the guy, and he couldn't even take
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Speaker 1: He couldn't even handle that. You mean to tell me
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Speaker 1: a clown like this would be able to handle some
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Speaker 1: seasoned investigators. No way, no way, no how, And that
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Speaker 1: is exactly why he's avoided speaking to them. He knows
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Speaker 1: what the deal is. He knows he's not built for
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Speaker 1: this life. He knows he's not built to deal with
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Speaker 1: sitting down with people who are going to really trip
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Speaker 1: him up. He's not the brightest guy in the world. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So Prince Andrew and his hopes all hinge on this
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Speaker 1: settlement that Virginia had with Jeffrey Epstein, and tomorrow Judge
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Speaker 1: Kaplan is going to hear more from both sides and
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Speaker 1: make a decision one way or the other. So tonight,
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Speaker 1: in preparation for that, we have an article from the Independent,
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Speaker 1: and this article is talking about the settlement that went
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Speaker 1: public today. So let's jump into this article from author
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Speaker 1: Bevin Harley over at the Excuse me, Bevin Hurley over
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Speaker 1: at the Independent, and the headline is Prince Andrew's accusers
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Speaker 1: settlement deal with Epstein made public ahead of Royal's court hearing.
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Speaker 1: Details of a settlement between Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Roberts
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Speaker 1: that Prince Andrews lawyers believe will stop in facing sex
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Speaker 1: abuse sex abuse lawsuit have been made public on the
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Speaker 1: eve of a pivotal court hearing in the case against
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Speaker 1: the Royal. I don't really think that this is a
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Speaker 1: strategy to hang your hat on here, or a tactic
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Speaker 1: to hang your hat on here. We saw how Judge
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Speaker 1: Caplan really wasn't too receptive of the bs that Brettler
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Speaker 1: was trying to spend to him, and I don't think
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Speaker 1: Kaplan is going to be receptive to them trying to
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Speaker 1: get off on this kind of technicality. Now, if it's
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Speaker 1: within the legal bounds, then all right maybe, But in general,
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Speaker 1: these judges have shown that they're really not too excited
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Speaker 1: to be dealing with Jeffrey Epstein's friends still all these years.
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Speaker 1: So you know, some of these judges seeing these people
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Speaker 1: three four times now in front of them, or their
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Speaker 1: names come across their desk. So hopefully Judge Kaplan looks
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Speaker 1: at Brettler and Andrew's people and says, look, we're going
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Speaker 1: to go to trial here, and we're going to see
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Speaker 1: what's what. In discovery, a two thousand and nine legal
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Speaker 1: document unsealed by a New York court on Monday revealed
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Speaker 1: Miss Roberts was paid five hundred thousand dollars three hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy thousand pounds to settle her claims against the
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Speaker 1: late pedophile financier, a former friend of the Duke of York.
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Speaker 1: And frankly, that's not enough money. Five hundred grand dropping
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Speaker 1: the bucket to Jeffrey Epstein for what he did to
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Speaker 1: Virginia and these other girls. Five hundred thousand, Nah, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna need you better. Tack on a couple of zeros,
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Speaker 1: and the fact that people are like, well, she paid
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Speaker 1: for the she was paid to keep silent. I mean, really,
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Speaker 1: what if it was your daughter, your sister, your mother,
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Speaker 1: Pretty sure you wouldn't be running around with that kind
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Speaker 1: of commentary. The fact of the matter is this, I
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Speaker 1: don't care what kind of agreement you sign with somebody.
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Speaker 1: If you're abused, you should have some kind of recourse.
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Speaker 1: The deal, the twelve page deal shows Ms Roberts agreed
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Speaker 1: to release a quit, satisfy and forever discharge Epstein and
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Speaker 1: any other person or entity who could have been included
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Speaker 1: as a potential defendant. So it's like when there's a
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Speaker 1: car accident and you get a settlement and you have
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Speaker 1: to sign that release form saying that you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: sue anybody else once you get the settlement. Same concept here.
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Speaker 1: That's the same exact concept here, and that's what they're
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Speaker 1: hanging their hats on. Now. Again, if Prince Andrew was
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Speaker 1: explicitly named in this agreement, if he was one of
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Speaker 1: the co defendants and his name was in this agreement,
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Speaker 1: then they would have a real legal leg to stand on.
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Speaker 1: But short of that, if you're just going to be
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Speaker 1: very vague about things and say, well, any person who
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Speaker 1: worked or then you're basically admitting that everything that Andrew
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Speaker 1: said previously was a lie. So either way, it's bad
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Speaker 1: news for you. Lawyers for the Duke of York, who
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Speaker 1: was being sued by Miss Roberts for alleged sexual assault
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Speaker 1: when she was a teenager, says this means her case
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Speaker 1: against him should not proceed as she agreed to drop
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Speaker 1: any legal action against people connected to Epstein. So anyone
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Speaker 1: who was connected to Epstein is what they're saying. What
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Speaker 1: about the gardener? So if the gardener committed a crime
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Speaker 1: and you know, gets hemmed up, he's just say, well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm protected under the the Epstein agreement here,
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Speaker 1: this was all part of that. It's ludicrous and it's
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Speaker 1: too vague. You need to name people. If you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have an agreement such as this, it's gonna be binding
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Speaker 1: in a court of law. Well, is all people? What
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Speaker 1: does that even mean? And again it's the same language
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Speaker 1: that Epstein was able to use in the non prosecution
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Speaker 1: agreement when he gave blanket coverage to people named and unnamed.
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Speaker 1: Who gets an agreement, right, especially with a government where
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Speaker 1: unnamed people are offered protection from your plea deal? Show
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Speaker 1: me one of those in the annals of you know,
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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. Oh, you know, just a coincidence? Yeah, okay, sure,
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Speaker 1: a lot of coincidences surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein case and
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Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell cases, aren't there. The Royal has strongly denied
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Speaker 1: the claims, and a hearing on his motion to dismiss
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Speaker 1: the case will take place in New York on Tuesday morning,
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Speaker 1: when a court is expected to hear legal arguments over
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Speaker 1: the wording and implications of Miss Robert's settlement with Epstein.
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Speaker 1: So tomorrow, that's what you can expect, right, We're going
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Speaker 1: to discuss that tomorrow night after they have the hearing.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. For our update, will dive right back in
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Speaker 1: to Prince Andrew and this civil suit with Virginia and
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Speaker 1: see exactly where we stand. If the case moves forward,
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Speaker 1: the Prince could be forced to sit for a deposition
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Speaker 1: under oath and turn over decades of private communications. Oh,
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Speaker 1: how terrible for him. If you're accused of, you know,
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Speaker 1: sexually assaulting somebody who is being trafficked as basically a property, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you should probably sit down with the authorities and at
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Speaker 1: least let people, you know, try and square it away
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Speaker 1: and figure out what occurred. Right, If you're an innocent man,
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Speaker 1: you're not ducking in dodging the way this dude has
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Speaker 1: been for all this time and don'ty I don't even
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Speaker 1: want to hear. Oh it's about money. Oh, it's about
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Speaker 1: money for Prince Andrew. He doesn't want to spend money. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 1: dude has more money than you could ever imagine, and
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Speaker 1: instead he chooses to do the wrong thing once again.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna answer questions, going to hide behind his lawyers.
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Speaker 1: In fact, such a clown, such a coward, that he's
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Speaker 1: going to hide behind his ninety five year old mother.
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Speaker 1: The Royal's attorney, Andrew B. Brettler, has previously argued the
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Speaker 1: civil case should be dismissed as the two thousand and
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Speaker 1: nine settlement absolved him of any liability, but David Boyce,
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Speaker 1: an attorney for Miss Roberts, called the document irrelevant to
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Speaker 1: her claim against Prince Andrew. The release does not mention
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew. He did not even know about it, he said.
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Speaker 1: The reason we sought to have the release made public
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Speaker 1: was to refute the claims being made about it by
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew's pr campaign. And remember this was all this
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Speaker 1: pot was stirred by Dershowitz. Mister II at my underpants
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Speaker 1: on the naked volleyballer from Martha's Vineyard. He's the one
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Speaker 1: that got this all in motion. Yap aty yap and
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Speaker 1: yappin about how this would get Andrew off the hook,
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Speaker 1: and this that the other thing. Give me a break.
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Speaker 1: Anything that dude touches as nuclear At this point, why
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Speaker 1: would anyone want to be associated with that man? He's
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Speaker 1: just a foul human being in my opinion, all of
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Speaker 1: this society, even just the dude in general. I look
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Speaker 1: at him and I'm just like, it's just gross, just
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Speaker 1: a gross person. US District Judge Kaplan has said a
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Speaker 1: trial could begin between September and December of twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: two if no settlement is reached. Prince Andrew's former friend,
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Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell, was found guilty of five charges of grooming
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Speaker 1: and trafficking teenage girls between nineteen ninety four and two
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Speaker 1: thousand and four in a separate federal criminal trial last week.
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Speaker 1: And look, I don't know about you folks out there,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know one human trafficker, never mind multiple
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Speaker 1: human traffickers or gun runners or other disgusting human beings here.
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Speaker 1: I mean insert disgusting human beings here. Prince Andrew seems
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Speaker 1: to have a whole menagerie of scumbags, of human traffickers,
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Speaker 1: of abusers, of arms runners, says something to the character
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Speaker 1: that this man possesses. Miss Roberts claims did not form
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Speaker 1: a part of the prosecution's case in Maxwell's trial. The
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Speaker 1: thirty eight year old mother of three, who has lived
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Speaker 1: in Australia for more than a decade, is suing Andrew
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Speaker 1: for emotional distress and battery. Prince andrew spokesperson told The
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Speaker 1: Independent they had no comment about the unsealing of the
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine document, which is which does not
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Speaker 1: mention him by name. I mean, so, how could his
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Speaker 1: team even begin to try and use this to exonerate him.
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Speaker 1: It's laughable at best and a clown show at worst.
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Speaker 1: To two thousand dollars an hour for Breler in company
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Speaker 1: and this is what you're getting, You're gonna have to
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Speaker 1: sell more than that, ski shall at my friend. I
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Speaker 1: know that there's reports out there that the Queen is
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Speaker 1: not going to pay for his legal bills, but I
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Speaker 1: find that hard to believe. I find that very hard
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Speaker 1: to believe. Maybe not out of the public funds that
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Speaker 1: we know about how much money they got over there
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Speaker 1: with Apple be over and you know the Bahamas, how
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Speaker 1: much money do they have stashed off shore that they
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Speaker 1: can go to as an emergency award chest. Again, I
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Speaker 1: don't have any evidence one way or the other. It's
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Speaker 1: just a question. Most people like this aren't very upfront
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Speaker 1: with the kind of wealth that they really have. The
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Speaker 1: twelve page settlement states that Ms Roberts agreed to remise, release, quit, satisfy,
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Speaker 1: and forever discharge Epstein and any other person or entity
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Speaker 1: who could have been included as a potential defendant from
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Speaker 1: all and all manner of action, including state and federal,
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Speaker 1: state and federal cause and causes of action, common law
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Speaker 1: or statutory suits, debts, dues, sums of money, accounts, reckonings, bonds, bills,
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Speaker 1: and demands whatsoever in law or in equity for compensantory
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Speaker 1: or punitive damages. So you know they went through the
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Speaker 1: gamut there, right, But they didn't name Prince Andrew specifically.
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Speaker 1: And for me, if I was the judge, that would
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Speaker 1: be a big deal for me. How are you gonna
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Speaker 1: come up here and tell me that this exonerates him
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Speaker 1: and he's not even mentioned, And especially considering that hold on,
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Speaker 1: what did my law clerks get for me, Oh, let
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Speaker 1: me look at this real quick. Oh, and especially considering
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Speaker 1: this guy's been lying the whole time. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: what I would say if I was the judge. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure Judge Kaplan will have a different approach. But
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Speaker 1: the fact remains that it's obvious this dude's bs and
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Speaker 1: and it's obvious that he is terrified to go to
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Speaker 1: try to go to discovery. It is understood that Prince
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Speaker 1: Andrew will claim that he falls within the category of
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Speaker 1: other potential defendants because Miss Roberts had identified him as
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Speaker 1: one of her alleged abusers at the time she entered
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Speaker 1: into the two thousand and nine settlement agreement. Well, look,
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Speaker 1: she's been naming him as one of her abusers since
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Speaker 1: the jump, and the dude has not had to answer
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Speaker 1: for it. Now, I don't care about what anybody else
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Speaker 1: thinks or says. That's on them. For me, it is
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Speaker 1: a long time that this dude sits down and is
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Speaker 1: questioned for these kinds of charges. Again, Look, we're not
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Speaker 1: talking about some kind of gray area charges here. We're
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Speaker 1: not talking about Adam left Field, and she's only talking
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Speaker 1: about Prince Andrew. She's saying that she was abused while
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Speaker 1: she was under the thumb of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn
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Speaker 1: Maxwell by Prince Andrew, not that Prince Andrew was out
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Speaker 1: trolling around in a van trying to hand out candy
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Speaker 1: to chill all right. Lawyer and legal writer Lucia Osborne
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Speaker 1: Crowley told The Independent the very broad terms of the
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine settlement could protect Prince Andrew from
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Speaker 1: Miss Roberts lawsuit. I highly doubt that it is very
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Speaker 1: possible that the settlement agreement between Virginia Roberts and Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein protects Prince Andrew. She said, Nah, maybe you think so,
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Speaker 1: but I think that the court's going to interpret it,
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Speaker 1: interpret it a whole different way, considering the way that
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Speaker 1: they have looked at this case in the past. There's
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Speaker 1: so much precedent already in the New York courts as
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Speaker 1: far as Epstein and Maxwell goes that, I have a
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Speaker 1: hard time believing that Caplain's not going to want to
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Speaker 1: see more. According to a report in The Sunday Times,
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Speaker 1: Royal courtiers courtiers are in discussions about what to do
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Speaker 1: if Prince Andrew loses the civil suit launched by Miss
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Speaker 1: Roberts in September twenty twenty one, which alleges that she
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Speaker 1: was forced to have sex with the royal three times
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Speaker 1: while she was being abused by Epstein. Yeah, you would
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Speaker 1: think that the Royal Court or whatever they're called, the
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Speaker 1: Handmaidens and you know whatever the hell they are are
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Speaker 1: deep in discussion, trying to figure out a strategy here,
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to wiggle off the
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Speaker 1: hook and save a little face for the monarchy. But
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna work out so well, right.
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Speaker 1: I think that this is a zero sum game at
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Speaker 1: this point, and they're not going to be able to
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Speaker 1: massage Prince Andrew back into public life or make people
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Speaker 1: accept this dude. The source was also quoted as saying
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Speaker 1: that the Prince would be asked to give up as
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Speaker 1: remaining patronages of charities and would not be able to
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Speaker 1: go abroad due to the risk of extradition, which would
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Speaker 1: result in a form of internal exile. Imagine, if you will,
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Speaker 1: for a minute, Prince Andrew walking through the airport and
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the theme music starts and
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Speaker 1: Dog the Bounty Hunters shows up. Okay, I'm just kidding,
19:08
Speaker 1: but you get my drift, right, this guy shows up
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Speaker 1: in one of these airports and there's a warrant for him,
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Speaker 1: he would be in serious jeopardy, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: So it would be like a form of internal exile.
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Speaker 1: Where's he going to go? Has to stay on the island,
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Speaker 1: right And I get it? Oh, real, rough the Prince
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Speaker 1: of England in a form of exile, living in his
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Speaker 1: riches on his island and you know, fading off into obscurity.
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Speaker 1: Certainly not the fate he deserves. But as long as
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Speaker 1: it look, this guy cannot be in the public eye
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Speaker 1: no matter what. There can be no coming back from
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Speaker 1: this for him. A Buckingham Palace spokesperson said that the
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Speaker 1: comments were without foundation. So look, we're gonna see more tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: For sure. We're gonna get a little bit more from
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Speaker 1: Kaplan tomorrow and we'll see where Judge Caplan is at.
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Speaker 1: But it is my guests, and remember, folks, this is
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Speaker 1: just my guests, just like during the trial. I don't
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Speaker 1: have any inside information, nothing like that. But it is
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Speaker 1: my guess that we're gonna see this move forward here.
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Speaker 1: And you know, according to the article we read, and
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Speaker 1: just from reading the room in general. It certainly doesn't
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Speaker 1: look like Virginia is interested in settling, So buckle up, folks.
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Speaker 1: We might be in for a long and interesting ride.
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Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
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Speaker 1: at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bo bby
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Speaker 1: c ap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can
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Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore c ap
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Speaker 1: u Cci. The article that we discussed and the link
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Speaker 1: to it can be found in the description box. All right, folks,
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Speaker 1: I will be back tomorrow with a little bit more
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Speaker 1: as per usual scheduled morning show, and then after that
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Speaker 1: we'll do some context episodes and we'll get yet it
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Speaker 1: kicked off, and then tomorrow night will pick up where
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Speaker 1: we left off here and update the situation between Virginia
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Speaker 1: and Prince Andrew. What's up everyone, and welcome back to
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Speaker 1: the Epstein Chronicles. Usually in the mornings we talk about
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Speaker 1: Guilty Galaine, but this morning we're gonna change it up
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Speaker 1: a little bit and we're gonna talk about Prince Andrew
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Speaker 1: and the lawsuit that he's facing a little bit more.
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Speaker 1: Now we all know that Virginia Roberts is a woman
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Speaker 1: on a mission at this point, she is not going
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Speaker 1: to be denied justice any longer. She's not going to
21:38
Speaker 1: be you know, told she can't get justice. She's not
21:42
Speaker 1: going to be bullied. And it's all very obvious from
21:47
Speaker 1: the actions that her and her legal team are taking.
21:50
Speaker 1: They are looking to really make a point and send
21:54
Speaker 1: it home here with the Joe exotic of the Windsor
21:58
Speaker 1: family and this lawsuit. And I'll tell you what, she
22:02
Speaker 1: deserves a big pat on the back because she's dealing
22:06
Speaker 1: with a whole bunch of bs once again now because
22:09
Speaker 1: of Prince Andrew's lawyers, Brettler, Singer and the rest of them.
22:14
Speaker 1: This is the strategy that they are going to use
22:18
Speaker 1: no matter what when it comes to sexual assault accusations
22:23
Speaker 1: and you know their client being accused. This is what
22:28
Speaker 1: they're going to do. This is why Prince Andrew hired them.
22:32
Speaker 1: He knew exactly what he was getting when he paid
22:35
Speaker 1: for Bretler and Singer. He could have won a different route.
22:38
Speaker 1: He could have found a different group of lawyers to
22:40
Speaker 1: represent him that might have went about this in a
22:43
Speaker 1: different way, but no, he had to be the borish
22:47
Speaker 1: oph he is and hire a couple of other borish
22:50
Speaker 1: ofs to, you know, perform the duties that he wants performed,
22:55
Speaker 1: and that is to try and destroy the credibility of
22:59
Speaker 1: Virginia Robert. But it is failed in spectacular fashion. In fact,
23:04
Speaker 1: he's done nothing but hurt his own case. He's done
23:09
Speaker 1: nothing but make things worse on himself. Every single time
23:14
Speaker 1: he thinks he has some kind of strategy that's going
23:16
Speaker 1: to work, or his legal team thinks they have some
23:19
Speaker 1: sort of strategy that's going to work, we see how
23:22
Speaker 1: it explodes in their face. And this is just the
23:26
Speaker 1: way of things if you're a Jeffrey Epstein associate. At
23:29
Speaker 1: this point, the legal system hopefully has caught up to
23:33
Speaker 1: your bs. But one thing is for sure, the people,
23:37
Speaker 1: the folks that are listening to this podcast, they're certainly
23:40
Speaker 1: onto your bs, Prince Andrew, and the same old tactics
23:45
Speaker 1: and the same old strategies, they're not gonna work this
23:47
Speaker 1: time because it's people like this who are listening to
23:50
Speaker 1: this podcast. Guess who populates Jerry's my friend. That's right,
23:55
Speaker 1: everyday average folks like the people listening to this podcast,
24:01
Speaker 1: and a lot of the people listening to this podcast
24:03
Speaker 1: had no idea about the scope of this investigation. Until recently.
24:07
Speaker 1: It'll be the same with a juror, right, even if
24:10
Speaker 1: they have no idea what's going on, the second they
24:12
Speaker 1: sit in the jerry box and they start hearing evidence,
24:15
Speaker 1: they're gonna know what's going on very quickly. So Prince
24:19
Speaker 1: Andrew and his team they have no good options, so
24:24
Speaker 1: they've chosen to go scorched earth. And this was the
24:27
Speaker 1: strategy from the very beginning because they knew, just like
24:30
Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell knew, without loopholes and technicalities, their goose was cooked.
24:38
Speaker 1: So that's why you see the pressure by Prince Andrew.
24:42
Speaker 1: That's why you see the pressure by his lawyers to
24:46
Speaker 1: try and destroy Virginia Roberts's credibility as much as they can,
24:50
Speaker 1: because they understand. They're not stupid. People don't get it
24:53
Speaker 1: twisted when I'm talking about the lawyers for Andrew, Brettler
24:57
Speaker 1: and Singer. While I find their tactics to be deplorable,
25:01
Speaker 1: these are not dumb lawyers. These guys are very good
25:04
Speaker 1: at what they do. And it's a good thing that
25:10
Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts also has lawyers that know what they're doing
25:13
Speaker 1: as well, because if it wasn't Boys and the company
25:17
Speaker 1: over there, Virginia's team might be hard pressed to deal
25:21
Speaker 1: with people like Bretler and Singer, and that's why these
25:23
Speaker 1: guys are hired. It's sort of like hiring Adershowitz, right.
25:27
Speaker 1: You're paying for what they bring, not only in the courtroom,
25:30
Speaker 1: but you're paying for all of those relationships, all of
25:34
Speaker 1: those you know, buddy buddy sessions with the prosecutors. That's
25:38
Speaker 1: what you're paying for. And that's what Bretler and Singer
25:41
Speaker 1: certainly bring. But they're up against another titan. I'm not
25:46
Speaker 1: a fan of lawyers in general, but David Boyse is
25:49
Speaker 1: certainly nobody to sneeze at, very powerful man when it
25:53
Speaker 1: comes to lawyers, and he is willing to go all
25:57
Speaker 1: the way here for his client, it would seem. So
26:01
Speaker 1: we have a real time battle of the Titans on
26:05
Speaker 1: our hands here, folks. And unfortunately for Andrew, when all
26:11
Speaker 1: is said and done, and you know, you start getting
26:14
Speaker 1: into discovery, you start looking at the evidence. It doesn't
26:18
Speaker 1: matter who your lawyer is if the facts aren't on
26:21
Speaker 1: your side. So unless they can get them off on
26:24
Speaker 1: a technicality or a loophole, in my opinion, Prince Andrew's
26:28
Speaker 1: in for a very, very very rough year. With that said,
26:33
Speaker 1: why don't we take a look at this article from
26:36
Speaker 1: the Daily Mail and let's see what author Carolyn Graham
26:43
Speaker 1: and Mark Hookham and Kate Mansey and Jacob Thorburn have
26:48
Speaker 1: to say about Virginia Roberts and her battle with Prince Andrew. Headline,
26:55
Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts vows to destroy the Duke of York Epstein's survivors.
27:00
Speaker 1: Royal should be in jail, but things leaving him broken,
27:04
Speaker 1: leaving him broke may be enough. As Andrew sparks victim
27:07
Speaker 1: blaming Row after demanding to see her mental records. That's
27:12
Speaker 1: an obvious tactic that Andrew and his team were going
27:14
Speaker 1: to employ. They know that somebody who has suffered through
27:17
Speaker 1: trauma like Virginia has obviously seen therapists or a therapist,
27:22
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get those records gross honestly, And
27:27
Speaker 1: it's typical of the tactics you're gonna see from them
27:29
Speaker 1: throughout this. But it's a patron out of the playbook,
27:36
Speaker 1: the age old playbook for the good old Boys Club.
27:39
Speaker 1: How can we destroy your credibility? Is she on drugs?
27:42
Speaker 1: Has she ever slept with a man? You know? What
27:46
Speaker 1: did she post on her MySpace. This is the sort
27:48
Speaker 1: of shit that these people try and use to, you know,
27:51
Speaker 1: demean people, try and destroy their credibility and make their
27:54
Speaker 1: testimony not worthwhile. Prince Andrew's accuser has valued to destroy
28:00
Speaker 1: him and leave him penniless, as the tactics undertaken by
28:03
Speaker 1: the Duke's legal team were slammed as victim blaming by
28:07
Speaker 1: furious women's safety campaigners. Well, I'm not a woman's safety
28:12
Speaker 1: campaign or whatever the hell that is. I'm not an advocate.
28:15
Speaker 1: I'm none of that. I'm just an average guy who
28:18
Speaker 1: took a look at what's going on here and is
28:20
Speaker 1: highly disgusted by all of it. With that said, I'm
28:25
Speaker 1: pretty disgusted with Prince Andrew victim blaming as well. There's
28:29
Speaker 1: other ways to go about this if you're innocent, right,
28:32
Speaker 1: one of the telltale signs for me if somebody is
28:34
Speaker 1: guilty of this kind of shit is if they attack
28:37
Speaker 1: the accuser's credibility right away. How about you just show
28:40
Speaker 1: with some evidence, tell your accuser all right, fine, let's rock,
28:44
Speaker 1: let's go to court. I'm telling you know, you go there.
28:47
Speaker 1: You don't try and stop any of the proceedings or
28:49
Speaker 1: anything like that. Show up in court, show your evidence
28:52
Speaker 1: and prove that you're not guilty, because when it comes
28:58
Speaker 1: to stuff like this, that's how it has to happen.
29:00
Speaker 1: And I know you're innocent until proven guilty, but when
29:02
Speaker 1: you're talking about sexual accusation, sexual crimes accusations, you can't
29:07
Speaker 1: sit on the sidelines. You have to be proactive. You
29:11
Speaker 1: have to get out there and you have to show
29:12
Speaker 1: evidence proving that you didn't do it. Because short of that,
29:16
Speaker 1: well you're gonna end up looking like Prince Andrew, especially
29:19
Speaker 1: when there's a ton of evidence coming the other way. Now,
29:22
Speaker 1: if this was just he said, she said, and Virginia
29:24
Speaker 1: didn't have any evidence, this would be a whole different story.
29:28
Speaker 1: If that picture didn't exist, then you would have to
29:30
Speaker 1: be all right, well, you know a little bit more
29:33
Speaker 1: critical of what's going on. But when that picture exists
29:36
Speaker 1: and you look at the whole story of this guy
29:38
Speaker 1: lying about even ever meeting her, how could one not
29:42
Speaker 1: deduce that this man is lying. Andrew's lawyers have requested
29:49
Speaker 1: the mental health records of his accuser, Virginia Roberts and
29:53
Speaker 1: planned to question her husband Robert and psychologist doctor Judith
29:56
Speaker 1: Lightfoot under oath. I just don't underst stand how that's
30:00
Speaker 1: even acceptable, Like, how could you possibly get somebody's medical
30:06
Speaker 1: records like that and question them under you know, and
30:09
Speaker 1: use them in a trial setting. I think it's kind
30:12
Speaker 1: of ridiculous, to be honest with you, I wouldn't want
30:15
Speaker 1: anybody digging into my medical records. Aren't there like hippo
30:19
Speaker 1: laws that protect you from that? And furthermore, wouldn't it
30:23
Speaker 1: make sense that somebody who has suffered childhood trauma goes
30:26
Speaker 1: to see a therapist. Now we're going to disturb the
30:31
Speaker 1: sanctity of that by maybe getting that the psychologist to
30:36
Speaker 1: testify in court. How to how is that acceptable? It
30:44
Speaker 1: is understood that his lawyer will plan to question potential
30:48
Speaker 1: false memories and miss Robert's allegations that she was that
30:51
Speaker 1: she was assaulted and sexually excuse me, sexually assaulted and raped.
30:56
Speaker 1: So again with the false memories right now, they're going
30:59
Speaker 1: with the false memory nonsense once again. How did that
31:02
Speaker 1: work out for you in the Galain Maxwell trial. You
31:06
Speaker 1: brought on this big expert, she did her whole spiel
31:09
Speaker 1: and it exploded like a firework in the sky. So
31:13
Speaker 1: go ahead, please try this strategy again so we can
31:17
Speaker 1: watch it fail in grand fashion. But both legal insiders
31:24
Speaker 1: and women's safety experts have criticized the Duke's legal team's
31:27
Speaker 1: new approach, accusing them of victim blaming and questioning the
31:31
Speaker 1: integrity of such a move. Miss Roberts believes Andrew should
31:35
Speaker 1: go to jail, but leaving him broke and destroyed maybe enough,
31:38
Speaker 1: a source close to her legal team said last night,
31:41
Speaker 1: And look, imagine leaving this dude broke in destitute, short
31:45
Speaker 1: of getting him to go to prison, probably the next
31:48
Speaker 1: best thing you see, when you take away the money,
31:50
Speaker 1: the power, the prestige of these people, you're effectively killing
31:55
Speaker 1: them because that's how they thrive, right. It's like Popeye
31:59
Speaker 1: with his spinach. These people have to go and hang
32:01
Speaker 1: out with the other scuzzbags, the other fellow travelers. You know,
32:06
Speaker 1: they have to break bread with their fellow robber barons
32:09
Speaker 1: to feel complete. The astonishing comments follow a devastating week
32:16
Speaker 1: that saw the Duke of York stripped of his royal
32:18
Speaker 1: and military titles by the Queen after a New York
32:22
Speaker 1: judge ruled the civil sex abuse case against him. We'll
32:25
Speaker 1: go ahead, and it really has been a terrible week
32:28
Speaker 1: for this dude. But guess what. It's been a couple
32:31
Speaker 1: of terrible decades for Virginia Roberts and of the other survivors.
32:34
Speaker 1: So I have no empathy for Prince Andrew. Dude made
32:37
Speaker 1: his own bed, now he has to lie in it.
32:39
Speaker 1: Why should I care? I want justice. I've seen my
32:44
Speaker 1: friends get sent to prison for fifteen years, sixteen years,
32:48
Speaker 1: twenty years for drugs, for illegal sports gambling. Yet this
32:52
Speaker 1: dude's running around living the life, hanging out over at
32:56
Speaker 1: bow emoral. Give me a break with these people already.
33:03
Speaker 1: Charlotte Proudman, a research fellow at Cambridge and Barrister, was
33:07
Speaker 1: critical and described the new legal strategy as the ultimate
33:11
Speaker 1: form of victim blaming. She told The Times that it
33:14
Speaker 1: was not uncommon for victims of abuse to request therapy
33:18
Speaker 1: and support, and explain Prince Andrews's legal team will attempt
33:21
Speaker 1: to extricate the Duke on any inconsistencies shown in Miss
33:26
Speaker 1: Roberts's recollection of the allegations. So again, how is it
33:31
Speaker 1: possible that they could even ask for transcripts of her
33:36
Speaker 1: and her counselor or therapist or whatever. That is gross
33:41
Speaker 1: and I really hope the judge tells them to tell
33:43
Speaker 1: their story walking with that request. I mean, I just
33:46
Speaker 1: don't understand all of a sudden, now someone and their
33:51
Speaker 1: conversations with their therapists should be of court record. I'm
33:56
Speaker 1: not comfortable with that, to be honest with you, in
33:58
Speaker 1: just about any situation, that has to be a you know,
34:03
Speaker 1: almost a sacred setting, because a lot of people they
34:07
Speaker 1: won't go and speak to a therapist in the best
34:09
Speaker 1: of times, because there's such a stigma on mental health.
34:12
Speaker 1: Right now, you start talking about people's transcripts being you know,
34:16
Speaker 1: given to defense attorneys, and it becomes a pretty slippery
34:21
Speaker 1: slope for people who are already hesitant to deal with it.
34:24
Speaker 1: And as we all know, not to digress, but mental
34:26
Speaker 1: health is a huge problem in America. Andrews lawyers are
34:33
Speaker 1: trying to discredit her. They're trying to find something she
34:36
Speaker 1: might have said to her psychologists that potentially undermines the
34:39
Speaker 1: claim she has made, or to show potential inconsistencies. Miss
34:43
Speaker 1: Proudman added, So again, if you're gonna do that, fine,
34:47
Speaker 1: try and do it somewhere else. Though, I really would
34:50
Speaker 1: hope that the court would not okay something like this
34:53
Speaker 1: and give into their request to hand over her records
34:57
Speaker 1: from conversations with a psychologist, and hopefully if they try
35:01
Speaker 1: and do it, the psychologist is like doctor Melfi from
35:04
Speaker 1: The Sopranos. She's not talking to the Feds at all,
35:07
Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully this therapist is the same way.
35:12
Speaker 1: She claims that she was forced to sleep with the
35:14
Speaker 1: prints on three occasions by US pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and
35:18
Speaker 1: convicted sex trafficker Glene Maxwell, the first time when she
35:21
Speaker 1: was seventeen and under the legal age of consent under
35:25
Speaker 1: New York law. So I like how they call her
35:27
Speaker 1: a sex trafficker. Here, well done, Daily Mail, doing a
35:30
Speaker 1: lot better job than some of the other publications out there.
35:36
Speaker 1: Andrew has always denied the accusations. A source close to
35:40
Speaker 1: Miss Roberts said, no one can believe how badly Andrew
35:43
Speaker 1: and his legal team have messed up. His arrogance is
35:45
Speaker 1: what is going is what excuse me. His arrogance is
35:48
Speaker 1: what has destroyed him. It is Virginia's firm belief that
35:52
Speaker 1: Andrew should go to jail for what he's done, but
35:54
Speaker 1: in the end, leaving him broke and destroyed may be enough.
35:58
Speaker 1: He is already destroyed now. It's a matter of how
36:01
Speaker 1: much money he offers in a settlement, and how broke
36:04
Speaker 1: we leave him. Ha. I love it. I love the postury.
36:08
Speaker 1: And sometimes you gotta take the fight to them, right,
36:11
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta have a little bit of a lip
36:13
Speaker 1: on you. And to see somebody close to Virginia, whoever
36:18
Speaker 1: it may be, the source close to her, you know,
36:20
Speaker 1: firing off like this, I appreciate that, and I like it.
36:23
Speaker 1: We all know how I feel about bullies. Right, you
36:26
Speaker 1: walk right up to him and you give him that
36:28
Speaker 1: three piece. No conversation needed in life, in anything in general.
36:33
Speaker 1: If you let a bully get away with even an inch,
36:36
Speaker 1: they will certainly take a mile. And Prince Andrew is
36:39
Speaker 1: certainly no different. The dude's been a bully his whole life,
36:42
Speaker 1: bullied staff, bullied everybody. And he feels like him and
36:45
Speaker 1: his legal team are going to be able to bully
36:47
Speaker 1: their way out of this. And I'll tell you what.
36:50
Speaker 1: Every now and then the bully runs into somebody in
36:54
Speaker 1: the schoolyard who's not gonna take their shit, And that
36:58
Speaker 1: person right now, well that's Virginia Roberts. My friends. Anna Burley,
37:06
Speaker 1: co founder of women's safety campaign Reclaimed the Streets, also
37:11
Speaker 1: weighed in. She told The Times it should never be
37:13
Speaker 1: a question how the victim behaves, what she wears, how
37:17
Speaker 1: much she drank, or what she shared with her therapist.
37:20
Speaker 1: Abuse is never okay, and the focus should be on
37:23
Speaker 1: the actions of the perpetrator. That's for sure. One hundred
37:26
Speaker 1: percent agree with that. And when it comes to these
37:29
Speaker 1: kinds of cases, they try and flip the script way
37:32
Speaker 1: too many times and blame it on the girl, and
37:35
Speaker 1: that's unacceptable. Any dude out there that's abusing women, you're
37:40
Speaker 1: a piece of shit and you need to be brought
37:41
Speaker 1: to justice. I don't care if you're the Prince of
37:44
Speaker 1: England or if you're some scumbag who is running hookers
37:48
Speaker 1: down on the blade. Either way, you gotta be brought
37:50
Speaker 1: to justice because you're a disgusting fuck. Andrew Is vowed
37:57
Speaker 1: to fight the case as a private citizen. On Friday night,
38:00
Speaker 1: his lawyers submitted formal demands to the New York Court
38:03
Speaker 1: to interview under oath both Miss Roberts husband Robert, excuse me,
38:11
Speaker 1: her husband Robert, and her psychiatrist, doctor Judith Lightfoot in Australia,
38:16
Speaker 1: so I can understand trying to subpoena her husband I
38:20
Speaker 1: get it. Maybe you know, have some questions for him,
38:23
Speaker 1: but the therapist is just too much for me. It's
38:27
Speaker 1: a bridge too far. Court documents filed by the Duke's lawyer,
38:34
Speaker 1: Andrew Brettler, have argued that miss Roberts may suffer from
38:38
Speaker 1: false memories and accused her of making up claims against
38:41
Speaker 1: Andrew to deflect from her own participation in Epstein's sex
38:45
Speaker 1: trafficking scheme. Boy, they're really hanging on to that shit
38:48
Speaker 1: right for all it's worth sink your teeth into it.
38:51
Speaker 1: Boys and girls, that's all you have. Let's remember, Virginia
38:55
Speaker 1: Roberts was a little girl who was groomed by Jeffrey
38:58
Speaker 1: Epstein and his friends. So why don't we place the
39:01
Speaker 1: responsibility with all of the adults that were around, you know,
39:04
Speaker 1: the adults like Prince fucking Andrew. You're gonna blame a
39:07
Speaker 1: little sixteen seventeen year old girl from a broken home. Huh?
39:12
Speaker 1: Real honorable, a real war hero? What an absolute coward?
39:20
Speaker 1: Mister Brettler wants to grill of Virginia's husband about his
39:24
Speaker 1: wife's role in recruiting and trafficking underage girls for Epstein,
39:27
Speaker 1: as well as her claims against Andrew. He also wants
39:30
Speaker 1: to forensically examine the couple's financial records. Boy, that's a hoot.
39:34
Speaker 1: How about we financially examine Prince Andrew's financial records. How
39:39
Speaker 1: about we start there? How much money did he get
39:42
Speaker 1: from Jeffrey Epstein's operations? See again, folks, this is why
39:46
Speaker 1: I'm so agitated that we didn't go the Rico route,
39:51
Speaker 1: because it ends all of this shit. All of these cowards,
39:54
Speaker 1: all of these bitch asses who have big mouths, who
39:58
Speaker 1: think that they can victim shame, who file of these
40:01
Speaker 1: counter lawsuits. They wouldn't be so brave if they were
40:05
Speaker 1: all facing RICO charges. Imagine each one of these clowns
40:09
Speaker 1: facing one hundred predicates of RICO, like El Choppo, like
40:13
Speaker 1: John Gotti. What it's only good for those kind of criminals, Huh?
40:17
Speaker 1: Not for these kinds. Why because they're your friends, because
40:20
Speaker 1: you rub elbows with these scumbags at parties. In separate
40:26
Speaker 1: filings on Friday, Miss Roberts lawyers said they intend to
40:29
Speaker 1: question or depose the Duke's former equerry, Robert Olney, an
40:34
Speaker 1: ex Army Army Air Corps officer who is head of
40:37
Speaker 1: Safety and Business Delivery at the Civil Aviation Authority CIA.
40:43
Speaker 1: Mister Olney was appointed as Andrew's equerry in September twenty
40:46
Speaker 1: twenty two, the year after Miss Roberts claimed she was
40:50
Speaker 1: allegedly forced to have sex with the Duke. But his
40:53
Speaker 1: name appeared in Epstein's infamous Little Black Book of Contexts,
40:56
Speaker 1: and he accompanied Andrew on trips around the globe before
40:59
Speaker 1: stepping down in two thousand and four. So again, all
41:04
Speaker 1: of these people, they're all in the same circles. This
41:07
Speaker 1: guy was trapsing around the world with Andrew before, this
41:10
Speaker 1: guy was, you know, hanging out with Andrew and Epstein.
41:13
Speaker 1: It's just such a joke, you know, he brings this
41:16
Speaker 1: only guy in and the guy's in Epstein's book. Don't
41:20
Speaker 1: you have any friends that aren't involved with Epstein or
41:24
Speaker 1: his friends? I mean, are you kidding me? Right now?
41:30
Speaker 1: Miss Roberts lawyers planned to quism about Andrew's travel to
41:34
Speaker 1: and from New York and any of Epstein's homes. The
41:37
Speaker 1: documents state that mister Olney's testimony should be obtained by
41:40
Speaker 1: April twenty ninth, either in person or by video conference.
41:45
Speaker 1: Miss Roberts lawyers also want to talk to Shukri Walker
41:48
Speaker 1: a Somali born woman who lives in London who claims
41:52
Speaker 1: she saw Andrew and Miss Roberts dancing together at the
41:55
Speaker 1: famous Tramp nightclub. Now, I remember when this all came out,
42:00
Speaker 1: when Shukrie Walker first came out and said this, and
42:04
Speaker 1: we uploaded an episode dealing with this way back, I
42:09
Speaker 1: mean over a year and a half ago now, So
42:11
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dig into the archives later and I'll upload
42:14
Speaker 1: that old episode so we get a little bit more
42:16
Speaker 1: context about Shoekree Walker and her claims. Miss Roberts has
42:22
Speaker 1: claimed the Prince was sweating all over me as they danced,
42:25
Speaker 1: and alleges they had sex later that night when they
42:28
Speaker 1: returned to Maxwell's home. Andrew claims he cannot sweat because
42:32
Speaker 1: of an injury suffered in the Falklands War. I mean
42:35
Speaker 1: did he self diagnose that? Is there any documentation from
42:39
Speaker 1: a doctor's office? Did you go down to the Compton
42:43
Speaker 1: swap meet get yourself a fake vaccination card like Antonio Brown?
42:48
Speaker 1: What's the deal here, princey boy? The civil lawsuit is
42:53
Speaker 1: set to be financially ruinous for Andrew. His legal bills
42:57
Speaker 1: are said to have reached two million, two million pounds
43:00
Speaker 1: That is, and there are reports he may offer to
43:02
Speaker 1: settle the case before it reaches court for up to
43:05
Speaker 1: ten pounds and I hope Virginia says no. But if
43:09
Speaker 1: she does accept it, I really hope she'd posts a
43:12
Speaker 1: picture of her and her kids swimming in her money,
43:14
Speaker 1: because I tell you what, after everything that she has
43:17
Speaker 1: been through, I don't know anybody who deserves a fat
43:20
Speaker 1: pay day more. The Mail on Sunday also understands that
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Speaker 1: Andrew could face a heavier tax bill for his home
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Speaker 1: Royal Lodge after losing the use of his HRH title,
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Speaker 1: as he would no longer qualify for tax relief. Imagine
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Speaker 1: think about that for a minute. These HRH royal scumbags,
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Speaker 1: they all get tax relief the people of England. However, Well,
43:43
Speaker 1: make sure you pay up your shillings, make sure you
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Speaker 1: pay up those those pence pieces. Why do they get
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Speaker 1: tax relief? Aren't they already on the dole of the public,
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Speaker 1: But they need tax relief as well? Huh? Why so
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Speaker 1: they can go use some more offshore accounts with Applebee.
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Speaker 1: The source close to miss Roberts legal team said, if
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Speaker 1: there is a settlement, it will have to be a big,
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Speaker 1: big number Prince Andrew was offered the chance to open
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Speaker 1: negotiations before the civil suit was filed, but as lawyers
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Speaker 1: ignored all our letters in the hope it would go away,
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Speaker 1: Virginia wants her day in court. But of course any
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Speaker 1: case can be settled. For a variety of reasons, Andrew
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Speaker 1: has ruined himself through his arrogance. One and when you're
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Speaker 1: told you're this great guy your whole life, you're the Prince,
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Speaker 1: You're this, You're that, You're of course you're gonna be
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Speaker 1: an arrogant prick when you become an adult. You have
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Speaker 1: nobody around to tell you that you're an idiot. When
44:42
Speaker 1: you're a kid, nobody with a wooden spoon beating that
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Speaker 1: ass when you go sneak in and try and steal
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Speaker 1: a lemon cake. So, like Mike Singletary says, uncoachable children
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Speaker 1: become unhireable adults, and that certainly is what Andrew would
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Speaker 1: be if he was a normal person. Would you hire
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Speaker 1: this guy? I mean, let's be real. Imagine this bozo
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Speaker 1: walks into your office for an interview for a job. Nah,
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Speaker 1: I don't think you'll be getting hired. Pal. Sorry. The
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Speaker 1: Duke is expected to be deposed for up to seven
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Speaker 1: hours by lawyer David Boyce in London in February. Last night,
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Speaker 1: he said I look forward to being able to question
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew under oath. Andrew's camp had feared that both
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Speaker 1: the Duchess of York and Princess Beatrice could be deposed,
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Speaker 1: but sources now suggest that this was unlikely, and that's
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Speaker 1: probably the right move. I've said it from the beginning.
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Speaker 1: I don't think bringing Andrew's children into this is a
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Speaker 1: good idea. Let's leave the kids out of it. They
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with their dad's disgusting decisions. The
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Speaker 1: sins of the father are not the sins of the children.
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Speaker 1: And unless there's something that these children have done, these
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Speaker 1: kids that is of triment to the survivors, then I
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Speaker 1: don't really think it's a good idea to drag them
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Speaker 1: into this either. Now, if they had some sort of evidence,
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Speaker 1: perhaps then yeah, I could see that. But I think
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Speaker 1: that Virginia and her team are they're doing it the
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Speaker 1: right way. There's no need to bring Prince Andrew's children
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Speaker 1: into this if it's you know, they're not part of it,
46:22
Speaker 1: because that would be the scumbag thing to do that
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Speaker 1: would be the Andrew thing to do. So it's nice
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Speaker 1: to see that they're not going to do that. But
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Speaker 1: we're gearing up for quite the battle here, folks, Quite
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Speaker 1: the fight, and Prince Andrew and his team they're certainly
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Speaker 1: on the ropes. But there's a long way to go here,
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Speaker 1: and when you're dealing with people with such a power structure,
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Speaker 1: such influence, nothing is ever settled until it's settled. So
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Speaker 1: the progress is being made. Those foundational blocks that we
46:52
Speaker 1: talked about during Maxwell's trial, well those are being laid
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Speaker 1: right now as well in this in this situation. So
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Speaker 1: let's see what's sort of structure is built on top
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Speaker 1: of that foundation as we move forward. All Right, folks,
47:07
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for me this morning. As far
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Speaker 1: as the rest of the day, I'm thinking that there's
47:12
Speaker 1: going to be an evening episode tonight. I have a
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Speaker 1: few episodes I want to catch up on a couple
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Speaker 1: of ones that have to deal with the Inspector General's
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Speaker 1: report that's expected as far as Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide
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Speaker 1: and how some folks are saying it'll answer some questions, Well,
47:31
Speaker 1: I have my own opinions about that, so we're gonna
47:34
Speaker 1: get to that as well, and I'm thinking I'm gonna
47:36
Speaker 1: try and get to that tonight, but if not tonight,
47:39
Speaker 1: then certainly tomorrow morning. But either way, there'll be a
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Speaker 1: bunch of context episodes today as well, and the usual
47:45
Speaker 1: schedule will keep on rolling. All right, folks, I help
47:49
Speaker 1: all of you have a great Sunday. Enjoy the football
47:51
Speaker 1: games if you're gonna be watching them, and I will
47:55
Speaker 1: talk to you all later on tonight. If you like
47:58
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Speaker 1: All Right, everybody that's gonna do it. I will talk
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