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Fred Taylor Previews Preseason Week 1 vs. Steelers · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: We're back with pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: That means football is near. Fred, It's great to see
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  Speaker 1: your face again. It's great to speak with you as always.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, Jack Pit is always good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I told you I was digging the new beard. Look, Man,
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  Speaker 3: keep rocking it. I'm good. But if I'm near, it's
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  Speaker 3: either football it's near, or the Pivot podcast. It's somewhere near.
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  Speaker 3: Because they work the heck out of me. So if
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars worked me that way, I'll be making that
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  Speaker 3: good old Tony forselling money, because I know Tony's Tony's
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  Speaker 3: been working hard this off season and our conversations, man,
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  Speaker 3: he said he's back in the grind. It feels like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, ninety five ninety six to him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when Coach Coughlin had those crazy long tour days and
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  Speaker 3: you're in the building all day. That's the information that
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  Speaker 3: I got from Tony, which I love and admire, you know,
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  Speaker 3: his dedication and commitment to the team in community and
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  Speaker 3: trying to build a winning, you know, a program. So
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  Speaker 3: I say all that to say a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: happen behind the scenes that people don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know about And that was my poor analogy of.
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  Speaker 3: Comparing the pivot work to if I were working for
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars in the building.
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  Speaker 2: But I try it.
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  Speaker 1: It' not bad, Fred, you know, it's it's been a
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  Speaker 1: long time since we've spoken with you. So what have
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  Speaker 1: you I mean, I know that I see your pivot
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  Speaker 1: all the time, like it's out there everywhere. It's blowing up.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this last year. I mean, it's all
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  Speaker 1: it never ends. But what have you found when you're
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  Speaker 1: not doing.
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  Speaker 2: The pivot this offseason? What have you been doing with
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  Speaker 2: your downtime?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, because I can't get consistent in golf enough,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of stay away from the golf course. I
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  Speaker 3: probably played three times in the last three years, so
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  Speaker 3: that that part is kind of I disliked that part.
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  Speaker 3: But I found a new hobby. It's as expensive as
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  Speaker 3: as golf, if you want to put that into it.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm about twenty grand in in the last
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  Speaker 3: eight months. It's collecting. You should see my Pokemon collection.
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  Speaker 3: The guys joke on me, but I have.
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  Speaker 1: A that's yeah, like cards, the cards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm organizing my stuff now, Like I got cards
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  Speaker 3: all over my office, which is why you know, it
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  Speaker 3: took me a little time to set up my stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Usually I'm ready for you, but when I came in
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  Speaker 3: my office, I'm like, where am I going to put
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  Speaker 3: my laptop so we can get a good shot.
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  Speaker 2: And I got.
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  Speaker 3: I got a thousand Pokemon cards right here on the
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  Speaker 3: on the desk, summer sleeved up. The little Charmander right here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the Carmander little tars art, which is my
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  Speaker 3: favorite Pokemon. You know, well, I need shadowless old school,
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  Speaker 3: like a vintage first edition, but that's like two hundred grand,
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  Speaker 3: so I won't be getting that one anytime soon.
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  Speaker 1: No, graded and selling them?
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  Speaker 2: Is that the whole idea? No, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a grade a lot of the big stuff and
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  Speaker 3: just sit on it, collect it, like the vintage ones.
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  Speaker 3: I do love the vintage look, Pokemon's first editions, base sets,
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  Speaker 3: all the early packs, U Fossil Jungle, yeah, black and white,
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  Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. But no a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 3: because my son's collected them before I knew anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: I would just get them stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I came across the three four boxes that I
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  Speaker 3: bought them that I was sitting on for them, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, and then the price differences
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  Speaker 3: in what's what I paid versus what they're worth. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is crazy. So it's actually an asset
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  Speaker 3: class to some extent, much like trading football cards and art, know,
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  Speaker 3: all that other stuff that people sort of you know,
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  Speaker 3: develop a bad habit for, kind of like trading Pokemon cards.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm guilty.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Fred, I've been talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: I've known you for what thirteen years now, I know
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  Speaker 1: it's totally unexpected. I'm never in my right mind would
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  Speaker 1: have ever thought I would have had a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: you about Pokemon cards me either.
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  Speaker 3: But it's that or either you know, Pivot, Pivot, performance Energy,
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  Speaker 3: or new Energy, right, I mean I can we can
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  Speaker 3: talk about a few things. Uh, but yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this, you know, this off season, traveling
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  Speaker 3: a lot with the show, checking in on the Jacks,
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  Speaker 3: you know, trying to trade close attention to develop developing
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  Speaker 3: things there Sporting Jacks. You know, we kicked off our
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  Speaker 3: season h first ever women's soccer club in the city
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  Speaker 3: of Jacksonville, So that was exciting.
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  Speaker 2: What else? What else?
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  Speaker 3: Again, the energy ain't moving that and kind of getting
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  Speaker 3: it in different doors and spaces.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what you've built. This is what you've
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  Speaker 1: been building towards. Like you keep building and adding things.
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  Speaker 2: This is this. Yeah, this is what you want to do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, because what you don't want to do is
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  Speaker 3: become bored complacent, you know, because that lead to depression,
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  Speaker 3: it leads to being broke, and then you're in that
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  Speaker 3: eighty seven percent of the guys that are you know,
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  Speaker 3: divorced or broke or have file bankruptcy. Doesn't necessarily mean
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  Speaker 3: you're broke, but the file bankruptcy within three years of retirement.
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  Speaker 3: And I've always said I never wanted to be in
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  Speaker 3: that uh, you know, in that window and that statistic.
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  Speaker 3: So just keep me going, man, I just find, you know, myself.
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  Speaker 3: Just continue to try to build, continue to try to
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  Speaker 3: leverage relationships and staying close, you know, to the organization
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  Speaker 3: that helps a ton because you know they've been good
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  Speaker 3: to me over the years throughout my career as well
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  Speaker 3: as in retirement.
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  Speaker 2: Man. So you know it's still growing here in this space.
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  Speaker 2: It feels good.
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  Speaker 1: Bret Taylor with us, proud of the Jaguars running back.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little football, shall we?
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  Speaker 2: Fred I love it. But this is.
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  Speaker 1: Also why I love you too, because we can talk
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  Speaker 1: about all these other things and that's that's fun.
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  Speaker 2: But it is game week.
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  Speaker 1: It is preseason week one.
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  Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers are in.
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  Speaker 1: Town, and you know what what is you think the
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  Speaker 1: for head coach Liam Cohen and his staff. He said
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  Speaker 1: it the other day, it's a challenge to figure out
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  Speaker 1: playing time in preseason week one. He's never had to
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  Speaker 1: really make that decision before.
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  Speaker 2: But he kind of wants to.
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  Speaker 1: See some of the guys because he needs to see
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  Speaker 1: them in the offense and the defensive scheme. But he
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  Speaker 1: got a long way into the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: What's the balance?
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  Speaker 3: You know, times have changed so much and it's it's
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  Speaker 3: surprising to see where we are right. You know, back
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  Speaker 3: in the day, we were able to go from you know,
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  Speaker 3: ninety man to seventy something, you know, to sixty something
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  Speaker 3: down til you get to fifty three, forty five and
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  Speaker 3: a play and then you know your your practice squads.
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  Speaker 3: Things are different now you don't have to cut do
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  Speaker 3: incremental cuts. You can go from ninety to what you
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  Speaker 3: need for the season. And not only that, time on
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  Speaker 3: field has changed. Time and pads have changed. They have this,
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  Speaker 3: you know, due to a certain research, you know, scientific reasons.
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  Speaker 3: They say, oh, we have to give guys x amount
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  Speaker 3: of rest. They can only be in pads X amount
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  Speaker 3: of days. What that means is we're not seeing everyone
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  Speaker 3: as much as we want to just throughout the practice week.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know what you're gonna get from your
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  Speaker 2: veteran guys.
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  Speaker 3: But they still have to get reps to knock off
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  Speaker 3: the rusts from the offseason and just really get a
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  Speaker 3: feel and gather their confidence level to know that they're
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  Speaker 3: ready to go into the season the best that they
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  Speaker 3: can because they got to get acclimated, right. So that's
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  Speaker 3: why the Vets need rest, I mean reps, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: But the younger guys, the guys draft, the free agent
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  Speaker 3: guys that you bring in, the guys that you hope
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  Speaker 3: to give an opportunity to get out there and be
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  Speaker 3: contribute big for the team. Uh, their reps are are
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  Speaker 3: thin because you got to share those reps and spread
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  Speaker 3: them around. But it's not just it's not enough time
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  Speaker 3: and practice compared to you know, how we were able
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  Speaker 3: to go out there and practice for hours. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a cap. It wasn't a cap to how many padded
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  Speaker 3: days that you have. But now under this last CBA, uh,
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  Speaker 3: there is a cap the last two cbas actually uh,
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  Speaker 3: they maintain that cap.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's tough. It's gonna be tough on the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are gonna have to get out there and do
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  Speaker 3: the best they can or what they have. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you take a guy like Travis Hunter, who who has security,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he wants to get out there and to
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  Speaker 3: do the best he cans for other reasons, to prove
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  Speaker 3: to everyone that he can do what he was drafted
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the unique situation in itself.
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  Speaker 3: But the other guys JP, you know, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see how their reps coming to play. Like
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  Speaker 3: a Diami Brown, for example, he should get a ton
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  Speaker 3: of reps. A guy who has tremendous upside, who's done
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  Speaker 3: well in camp. The reason they brought him in because
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  Speaker 3: he has potential to go out there and create that
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  Speaker 3: three man receiving corps that you need to go terrorize defenses.
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  Speaker 2: And so many other guys that they got to take
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  Speaker 2: a peak at.
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  Speaker 1: Pret Taylor with us. Let's get in the running back room. Travis,
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  Speaker 1: ETN and Tank Bigsby listed as co starters in the
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  Speaker 1: first depth chart. I don't know if you're a depth
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  Speaker 1: chart watcher or you know, but that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But the three rookies have all had moments of flash
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  Speaker 1: and training camp. The Tuton had a hamstring issue early
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  Speaker 1: trying to really fully work his way back, but Leaquinn
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  Speaker 1: Allen Jr. Is not scared of contact. J Quinnon Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: the undrafted guy, is two hundred and thirty three pounds
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  Speaker 1: and when he gets in the open field, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know anybody wants to get in front of him. This
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  Speaker 1: seems like a really competitive running back room.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you need. That's what I love.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I always try to bring to our running
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  Speaker 3: back rooms. You know, regardless of the threat that the
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  Speaker 3: team served me with every year when we were drafted
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  Speaker 3: running back or we would bring some free agency and
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  Speaker 3: that's what you're supposed to do. And I've learned that
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  Speaker 3: is healthy, you know. I've learned that. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: guys love each other. The guys understand the business, and
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  Speaker 3: there's no animosity, you know, towards each other. You just
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  Speaker 3: won't work, you know, you want to come in learn,
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  Speaker 3: teach each other and just go to work and the
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  Speaker 3: best man is gonna win. The co starter, depth chart stuff,
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  Speaker 3: throw it out the window, that doesn't matter, you know,
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  Speaker 3: running back by committee if they call it co star,
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. I think they have
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  Speaker 3: two guys that can get it done. Obviously they drafted
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  Speaker 3: a few others that they hope they can depend on.
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  Speaker 3: You also have guys that you want to be able
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  Speaker 3: to play special teams, and usually the running back position
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  Speaker 3: is a position they poached from for special teams because
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  Speaker 3: those guys are fast, they're smart, you know, they're elusive,
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  Speaker 3: they can get down and they can make some plays.
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  Speaker 3: They take me back to one of my guys who
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  Speaker 3: was undrafted, but they reserved the special team a spot
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  Speaker 3: for a player every year on the Jack del Rio
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  Speaker 3: and he went down and he earned a position in
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  Speaker 3: the room that was about seven or eight deep. I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about Montel Owens who turned out with Montel getting
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  Speaker 3: ten plus years or.
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  Speaker 2: Something like that. Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean it's about competing, but it's also
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  Speaker 3: about working hard, putting your stuff on tape, realizing that
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity is lies in special teams.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you want to be on a rock you
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  Speaker 2: won't fulfill your dreams.
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  Speaker 3: But you also have to understand that there are thirty
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  Speaker 3: one other teams around the NFL. So if Jacksonville isn't
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  Speaker 3: the place, leave it on tape and maybe you'll getting
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  Speaker 3: ather opportunity somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Fred, we're gonna wrap with us today. How do you
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  Speaker 1: want to see Travis Hunter on Saturday Night? And how
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  Speaker 1: much do you want to see him play?
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  Speaker 3: I want to see him for the excitement for the
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  Speaker 3: fan base, you know, running through the tunnel, you know,
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  Speaker 3: his first catch, I know they'll go crazy as if
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  Speaker 3: it's a Monday Night a versus the chiefs ort somebody
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  Speaker 3: like that, or maybe like a playoff game versus the Titans.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna go crazy when he whenever he catches the ball,
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  Speaker 3: or whenever he knocks down the pass and gets the
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  Speaker 3: PBu you know, or even an interception. But that's all
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  Speaker 3: wishful thinking. In the preseason. I'm hoping that he gets in,
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  Speaker 3: you know, makes a quick appearance, and then gets out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because we spoke.
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  Speaker 2: About it on the podcast. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the more you play, the more you you.
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  Speaker 2: Risk injury.
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  Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent injury proven game, right and you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna play on offense x amount of plays, you gotta
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  Speaker 3: play on defense x amount of plays. It increases those
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  Speaker 3: chances for injury, and obviously we don't want to see that,
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  Speaker 3: but we know that's a part of the game, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And the big question mark is how much can he do?
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  Speaker 3: We know he can play both ways, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: how much can he play both ways? Can he go
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  Speaker 3: out there and give you sixty solid plays on offense,
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  Speaker 3: which is what's going to be required as the number two,
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  Speaker 3: well not a number two, but as a starting receiver,
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  Speaker 3: and then turn around and give you twenty five thirty
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  Speaker 3: in special situations on defense, you know where sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: might have to run up and tackle a Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 3: or a Jonathan Taylor. You know you're gonna see them twice.
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  Speaker 3: And can that frame hold up when it's time to
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  Speaker 3: go out there and tackle. Are they saying be smart?
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  Speaker 3: Are they saying just get in the way and don't tackle?
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  Speaker 3: You know, we paid you to come and defend receivers
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  Speaker 3: and get interceptions and get us the ball back. So
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  Speaker 3: it's it's so much surrounding such a great player. Talking
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  Speaker 3: to Jalen Ramsey the other day in Pittsburgh while doing
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh camp during our training camp tour, Jalen said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: he is special, and this is coming from Jalen Ramsey.
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  Speaker 3: He said, he is so special, but he can be
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame special if they kept him at a dB.
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  Speaker 2: Only it's like, oh h right.
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  Speaker 3: But you know to to say, he's like, he's a
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  Speaker 3: good receiver, but he's no one I'm gonna lose sleep over.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's like, he's not a.
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  Speaker 3: Jamar Chase yet he hadn't showed him to be that
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  Speaker 3: he likes Jamar, not that I'll lose sleepover. And these
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  Speaker 3: are his words, not that I'll lose sleep over Jamar.
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  Speaker 3: But I know I got to bring all my bags
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  Speaker 3: to the stadium. But he doesn't feel that way to
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  Speaker 3: see Travis at receiver. But on the flip side, he
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  Speaker 3: believes Travis is is a is.
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  Speaker 2: An elite corner back, one that is generational.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, we open up by saying Liam has
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  Speaker 3: a big decision to make to kind of see how
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  Speaker 3: the playing time is going to go. That's even a
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  Speaker 3: bigger decision because you know this is the reason you
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  Speaker 3: went up there and you took him with a high
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  Speaker 3: draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: Bred great to catch up with you. We'll be on
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  Speaker 1: the stadium board Saturday night. Forward to that, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: be on the Steve Radio as well. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: being you for like all week and long.
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  Speaker 2: Hey can I bring cars? All right?
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  Speaker 1: You can bring anything you want. At least I'll have
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  Speaker 1: that app where you have to catch him on the app.
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  Speaker 2: You remember that, Well, was that Pokemon Go? You know what? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really gotten into Pokemon Go.
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  Speaker 1: So I remember we had a Pokemon Go event at
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  Speaker 1: the stadium here. So it was like we opened the
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  Speaker 1: stadium and like thousands of people came to catch these
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  Speaker 1: rare pokemons on their phone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, people do that.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember hearing people were getting run over because
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  Speaker 3: they was walking with the head. Now you know, people
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  Speaker 3: were trespassing and people's properties.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would never be me. You know. My my
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  Speaker 2: biggest enemy. That's what they all said too. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: until I started doing, My biggest enemy is the Internet.
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  Speaker 3: I buy I buy them already marked up and overpriced.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a plug, you know in these game
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  Speaker 3: stops and Best Buys and you know the walmarts where
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  Speaker 3: I can get them at retail, So I have to
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  Speaker 3: you know, get them and build these collections and yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, I caught you off guard with that one,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody else that's listening surprise.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Fred, I'll see your brother.