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Ep 11 - Reservoir Dogs (1992) · Popcorn and Pals

• Justin Weakley: Welcome back to Popcorn and Pals. It's the podcast where we talk about all sorts of movies, good and bad, and we give you our completely unqualified takes on them. He's Zach and I'm Justin. And today we're talking about the 1992, I guess, classic that will, yeah, cult classic that will make you question who to trust. It's Reservoir Dogs. Zachary Wheeler: I'd classic for sure. There you go. I like that. Make you definitely like a paranoia type movie for sure. Justin Weakley: But first, yeah. it yeah it was i didn't really yeah cult classic feels like the best Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I mean, this was not a hit, but I think it was very well respected, right? But not a hit by any stretch of the imagination. And I don't think people would consider this even in Quentin Tarantino's like. Uvra like this would be ⁓ his biggest success, even though I had a good time with it, so. Justin Weakley: Mm. Mm. Yeah, well, how are we doing? Zachary Wheeler: Okay, first order of business. have some housekeeping because I've stood on this a lot. I feel bad. I feel like I made the wrong call. Like I'm going to go back to Goodfellas. I'm going to rate it. It's a classic. I made a mistake. I think I let the first time I watched that movie color my like perception of the movie and the more I thought about it. I'm like, you know, I had a really good time with that movie. It was a lot of fun and I was Justin Weakley: Mm. Zachary Wheeler: Comparing it to the Godfather like that means anything, you know, I can like the Godfather more. That's okay. That doesn't mean it's not a classic. So I'm officially very upset myself and reversing my opinion on Goodfellas. Justin Weakley: Mm. ⁓ No, it's you know what it is. You're a coward. That's what this is. You can't take it back. This isn't the Wild West. Yeah, come on over. Come on over to the classic side. It was yeah, it was it's good fellas. It's fun. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Hahaha! Look, it's our podcast. make the rules, okay? Yeah. Exactly. It's like, it's like a Scorsese is like probably a lot of people's they considered it's his masterpiece his best movie and I'm like his best is like not even good enough for me. Justin Weakley: It doesn't make my classics list. Scorsese. Zachary Wheeler: Doesn't make my classic list not Dave does but ⁓ Sorry good fellas, yeah, I was like I'm like I'm grading this one on the curve and I think I just like I Was letting yeah my previous first experience watching it when I didn't like it very much wasn't paying attention fully thought of like the violence I think was like clouding my judgment Justin Weakley: Yeah, Dave makes the list, but sorry good fellas. Hmm. Zachary Wheeler: And I'm like, no, you know what? It was a movie. I'm retracting that, Justin Weakley: Yeah, I think you are allowed to do whatever the hell you want to do. It's a classic or if you want to throw it in the dumpster, you can do that too. Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ So I was telling you before the pod we got on here that I was like I have like TMJ right and I told you about all my story about getting medicine like all my doctor crap with no one cares but what I have figured out that helps a lot with it and This is just like my underlying secret hippie coming out of me So have you tried those like tipsy packs? They're like a CBD like drink supplement. ⁓ dude Justin Weakley: Yeah. Hmm. I've heard of them, I've never had one though. Zachary Wheeler: Two of those, sleeping like a baby, even with TMJ. ⁓ yeah. Just a little bit of CBD, you know? Justin Weakley: It makes it makes you feel better. Yeah. I do. ⁓ I do ashwagandha. I take those gummies. I don't know if they work. I think it's a placebo, but I. It all is just up here. It's in the noggin, but I do feel like when I take them like right before bed, I feel like I fall asleep faster, but it's all probably bullshit. It doesn't matter, but. Zachary Wheeler: yeah? That's probably how this is too, right? Justin Weakley: I like to think it does and that's what's important. So you... Yeah. Yeah. Well, you... Zachary Wheeler: There you go. Plus we're green, we're organic, baby, you know? Gotta feed our inner hippie. I know, there's like part of me that wishes I could live in a van and like West Folly, a van again, van life and it up, just playing guitar and, you know, listen to music. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. I don't know. You lost me at guitar. I think... Yeah, the van life would be kind of fun. I think it'd be really fun for, I mean, you and your wife did that. You went around the country during COVID, which is really fun. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: I I probably, I lost everyone else I was playing guitar with too. They all left the room when I started playing, so. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we did that in the back of a Chevy Tahoe, so it wasn't quite a van, but you No, I did not bring the guitar. I brought two dogs and, you know, that was enough room. So... I'm also, my wife would leave me if I start playing guitar. I'm just saying what I would like to do, okay? No one's staying in my vicinity. I'm not that guy. Justin Weakley: Did you bring the guitar? What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you can do whatever you want to do. Bring your guitar. Zachary Wheeler: No, I feel like I'm like 36 now and I feel like I did. missed out on van life. You know, that was like early twenties. Justin Weakley: Hmm. Did you, but, but did we miss out on van life though? Did we miss anything? Zachary Wheeler: Look, I like the romantic idea of it, okay? nothing, everything you own is in your trunk and the world's in front of you, you know? Justin Weakley: I do. Yeah. I feel like it'd be cool for like three or four days. But then after that I feel like would probably get really, like where do you shower? Do you just find public showers? Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ dude, are you kidding me? No, you have you can build the shower and stick it on the side of the van spraying you down. You have to pump it up with like air to get to get water pressure. Yeah, just a shovel and a cat hole. That's all you need, you know. Justin Weakley: No, no. Yeah. I'm out. See, I enjoy. Yeah, see, I don't like the thought of I don't know where I'm going to poop today, right? I like waking up and knowing that I have my throne in here and I it's all mine all day. There's something very, very ⁓ eloquent. Zachary Wheeler: Hahaha! Eloquent? Justin Weakley: But hey, yeah, but hey, enough about van life. You guys have a birthday coming up soon. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, my son's turning five. So we're gonna have a big party. We're gonna do it. He's also a movie kid. He loves television like any kid, but we introduced him to the Sandlot and loved it. So we're gonna do a Sandlot birthday party for him. I know, I'm excited. I'm really glad. He was like teetering between like Sandlot, which I was like, okay, Space Jam, which I was like, okay, and like SpongeBob. I'm like, ugh, okay, fine. Justin Weakley: Mm. It's going to be really fun. Mm-hmm. You Zachary Wheeler: Honestly, the SpongeBob would have been easier. Way easier to find decorations for SpongeBob birthday than movies from like the 90s. But you know. Justin Weakley: Yeah, yeah. There's, Zachary Wheeler: He just started T-ball too, so he's just all into baseball. Justin Weakley: Good, good for him, yeah. Zachary Wheeler: He's playing for the Cincinnati Reds. That's his T-Ball league that he's in. They're all major league teams. So we had the Reds versus the Braves this weekend. Ahead of opening day. Justin Weakley: yeah, yeah, Yeah. I think I remember I played on the Mariners when I was probably Henry's age. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Mmm. I never played t-ball. I was like not a baseball kid at all. I did like hockey and basketball. It's my thing as a kid. Justin Weakley: and I... Yeah, yeah, I feel like, I don't know, T-ball is really fun. I feel like I didn't play, I don't think I ever played T-ball. I think I went straight into coach pitch. Zachary Wheeler: You're just that cool, you know I get it. You seem like, cause you played baseball for quite a while. That was like your main sport, would say, wasn't it? Justin Weakley: Mm. I if you want to say that, it was, I didn't enjoy it. My parents made me play, is why I play. ⁓ No, excited ⁓ we got him ⁓ a pair of binoculars, FYI. So, hmm. Courtesy of Reddit. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: There you go Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. ⁓ He loves camping and stuff, so he'll definitely use them. He doesn't quite get the concept yet of binoculars. Like, he knows that you can look through them and see things far away. Definitely not focusing them. And he likes to do them backwards and have everything be really small just as much as he likes looking at things up close. But, you know, he's figuring it out. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Reddit, ⁓ I feel like I've started to trust Reddit more than just like any typical Google search. ⁓ But yeah. Zachary Wheeler: But you don't want Google sponsored AI. It's like half of AI answers are like from sponsored sites now. I'm like, okay. Justin Weakley: Yeah, no, I mean it... The wonderful folks on Reddit have so much input on what to buy a five-year-old boy for his birthday. But yeah, so binoculars. I was this close from texting you and asking if Henry had a pair of binoculars, but then I was like, I don't care. He's going to get another pair. So he's going to get a cool pair of blue ones now. Zachary Wheeler: Mm. Yeah. Well, he's a five-year-old so he'll throw them and so if he had another one they'd be broken anyways. Justin Weakley: Yeah, yeah, or just like rip it in half and then it's a what is it a monocle? Yeah, but uh, yeah spyglass. Yeah. Yeah, there you go Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, monocle or I don't know, or like a spyglass. Yeah. All right. anything else going on that you want to chat about? Cause I know you're coming. I know you're doing this weekend because you're coming to a five year old birthday party. Justin Weakley: No, no, I'm do- Yeah, I am. ⁓ I'm depressed currently because I finished Dungeon Crawler Carl last weekend. I mean, it's that's been my escape for two months, two plus months. Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ We'll have to find another series. I'm on book four now. So I'm getting there. I'm coming down the road, you know? I got till May, so. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. I yeah, no, you were, I think you've got plenty of time. Well, I don't know, six and seven are, they are like 800 pages each, I think. So you might need to kick it into gear, but yeah. Zachary Wheeler: I got a month and I got like a full month. Okay. I got it. I got it Justin Weakley: Yeah, are you still reading on your phone for everybody listening? Zach reads books on his phone if ⁓ if you can believe it So hang on. We've got two strikes on you. You always watch the subtitles, which I don't care anymore. That's that's The subtitles always on and you read your books on your cell phone Zachary Wheeler: Okay, in my defense, I did buy a Kindle. So now, like, if I'm on the go, I'm reading on my phone, and if I'm at home, I'll read on my Kindle. So I felt like, I was like, all right, I gotta do something a little bit better than my phone. It's fun to read on your phone, because it's super easy. It's always there. I can read it in the bathroom. I can read it on, and, you know, between meetings at work, you know, at lunch, like whatever, but, but yeah, so I still read on my phone quite a bit. I'm not gonna lie, I bought a Kindle. Justin Weakley: Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: And I think I read about 10 % of the book on the Kindle and about 90 % of the third Dodger Carl Carl book on my phone. Justin Weakley: Mm. Damn. Do you have to, I've never had a Kindle. Do you like have to pay for the service? Is that how it works? You just buy a Kindle and you get free books. Zachary Wheeler: Mm-mm. Oh no no no no no no yeah no you have to buy... Man you know what? I really don't know because I steal it from my wife. I steal whatever I do is I steal from my wife so um because she's a big reader she reads like 50 books a year so they're all like romantic stuff but it's you know yeah she read like 60 something books last year Justin Weakley: Mm. him 50 books a year I didn't know Carly man I didn't know car was putting up numbers like that 50 a year what is that that's hang on here Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, she is. Yeah. That's like all she does, she doesn't even use social media really. Justin Weakley: She reads, she reads at least four books a month. Get the fuck out of here. How? How does she have that? How does she read that fast? Zachary Wheeler: She just reads. No, it's true. Well, I will say that she like does it's like 50-50. She reads and she'll also listen to them. So she'll like if you know, she's like on the go working. She doesn't want to stop reading the book or like where I'm like a purist. I want to read the whole thing. I don't want to like but she'll let like a an audiobook cover half of the book for her so she can bust through them much quicker that way. Justin Weakley: Hmm. Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Zachary Wheeler: And then she'll go back and reread things and everything too. you know, I mean, I don't Justin Weakley: ⁓ that's blasphemy. I'll re-watch movies. I'm not reading a book again. It's too much effort. I already know what happens. I'm just gonna get this Cliff Notes, the Spark Notes. ⁓ Yeah, let's talk about Reservoir Dogs. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I don't know. So yeah, let's get into it. A pivot from Dungeon Carl Carl, one of the most fantasy, like silly things I've ever seen to some of the most dramatic, most intense movies I've ever watched. I don't know. Quentin Tarantino does have like a good he has like a way a humor about his darkness for sure, though. Justin Weakley: into torture. It was intense, wasn't it? So let me ask you this before we even start off. Do you like Quentin Tarantino movies or are you in the camp that's like they're overhyped? I don't like them. That's interesting. I feel like people, feel like most people you either really like him, like you think he's a genius or you think it's just way too convoluted and it's overblown and all the things. Zachary Wheeler: He's 50-50 for me. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What about you? Justin Weakley: I generally really like him. ⁓ I've never seen Reservoir Dogs before. This was the first. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, this was, I think one of the reasons I like suggested this one, I believe, was because I wanted to, it was like my blind spot in his kind of filmography. So. Justin Weakley: Yeah, like I feel like several of his movies, I actively seek them out to rewatch them every so often, like once every couple of years. And I really don't do that with any other movies outside of like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and you know, some of the some of the all time hits but like Django and Glorious Basterds. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. Yeah, Jango's great and I feel like for me he pivoted with Inglorious Bastards. like, and I've actually never seen, is it the hateful eight? Is that him? I've never seen that one. ⁓ Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. This Reservoir Dogs reminds me a lot of hateful 8 because it's it kind of takes place. It's a very, very similar structure to this in that who did it or who's who is the bad guy? Who's the mole? Who's the rat? And they are in like a singular location for the majority of the movie. Like it's like a like a movie version of Clue. There you go. That's what it feels like. Zachary Wheeler: Okay. Mm-hmm. There is a movie version of Clue, maybe we put that on our list. It's got a, it's a, it's got it. Justin Weakley: Yeah, I've no- it's John- isn't it John Cleese? Is he in Clue? I know it's an older movie. Zachary Wheeler: Hmm the butler is what's his name from it ⁓ Yeah, Tim Curry, that's who the butler plays yeah but no ⁓ No, I'm with you. I feel like within glorious bastards. It like switched for me with him like the movies post and glorious I really like and the movies before and glorious bastards. I'm like less Hot on like I don't really like the Kill Bill movies Justin Weakley: ⁓ Tim Curry. Yeah. Yeah, I love Tim Curry. Mm. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: I'm not a big fan of like Grindhouse and I forget what the other one was even called. No, I'm not. Well, yeah, Jackie Brown, too. I've never seen Jackie Brown. I'm not a big fan of Pulp Fiction either, which is like sacrilegious and like the the QT. ⁓ But I feel like the 90s, I have a tough. Like a. Justin Weakley: Jackie Brown. ⁓ Pulp fiction. Zachary Wheeler: for like the 90s like cult classics or classics I have like kind of like a tough opinion on them because I'm not a huge fan of like Fight Club I'm not a huge fan of Pulp Fiction you know these kind of like machismo-y kind of movies or at least they're not even meant to be machismo I think a lot of people interpret them as machismo they meant they're meant to be more like a critique on like masculinity but Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Zachary Wheeler: But I've never been like a big fan of those type of movies and it's funny because like those directors later in their career I really like because like ⁓ Fight Club that is what's his name? ⁓ Social Network and Not David Lynch David Fincher, I really really like his stuff Later, right? It is he Gone Girl too like Gone Girl is great Justin Weakley: David Fincher. ⁓ Hmm. Zachary Wheeler: And same with Quentin Tarantino, right? I'm not a big fan of Pulp Fiction, but I really like Inglorious Basterds. I really liked Django. I really liked ⁓ the Hollywood one. What's one of my drawing a blank of the name? Once Upon a Time on Hollywood, I really liked that one too. Justin Weakley: once upon a time in Hollywood. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you should watch Hateful Eight. I mean, if you enjoy Quentin's later movies, I feel like Hateful Eight would be in that same category. I think you would like it. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. And to be honest, this movie was probably one of my favorite movies of his from the early part of his career. I thought this movie was really good. Justin Weakley: Mm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. Well, before we get into it, do want to hit us with your two plot summaries, the fun one and then the real one? Zachary Wheeler: Well the first one so I will say this There's a little bit of a spoiler ⁓ So just spoiler alert for anyone hasn't seen a 33 year old movie Justin Weakley: Fair enough. Zachary Wheeler: Alright. A police detective is having a bad day at work. Shot by a suburban mom and left to bleed out in a warehouse, he spends his final moments drifting in and out of consciousness, awake long enough to see most of his entire team kill each other in a Mexican standoff. Justin Weakley: That's really good. I think you, I think, I feel like you have a future at writing plot synopsis. That's really good. Zachary Wheeler: But yeah, I was like, I'm you know what? I'm just gonna spoil it. He's a cop from the beginning. Okay, so you're having a bad day at work, you know, he's at work. So I don't know, we'll see, but. Justin Weakley: No. No. No. Mm-hmm. Zachary Wheeler: But anyways, from a real synopsis perspective, we'll get into it, right? We'll start chatting, which we already kind of been doing about this movie, because I do have some good thoughts, I think. ⁓ And then we'll get into our, ⁓ we'll compare some notes, we'll do our superlatives, and then last, we'll rate whether we think this movie should be a classic. ⁓ Justin Weakley: Hmm. which Zach might change his mind about later. Zachary Wheeler: No, no, this one I'm... No, I'm... Look, I made a mistake, okay? Never happen again. Justin Weakley: You go stick with it Zachary Wheeler: But ⁓ the, ⁓ so let's get into a real synopsis of this movie, right? It follows a group of diamond heist robbers or bank robbers or jewelry store robbers. And we first see them in the diner kind of preparing for their heist. And then we catch up with them the next scene after the heist when it kind of all went to hell. And it's basically becomes this blame game around who they think is a rat that ⁓ you know, cause the police busted up the heist. ⁓ And slowly and surely they all start returning back to this warehouse, which is their kind of meetup after the heist and tensions rise. There's some torture. There's some, Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Zachary Wheeler: people getting shot, Mr. Blonde is a complete psychopath, ⁓ ultimately ends up in a kind of a Mexican standoff where it's revealed that Mr. Orange, one of the robbers, is actually an undercover cop. And they all end up shooting each other basically in the standoff. And then as the police raid the warehouse, the movie kind of ends semi-ambiguously. I'm pretty sure everyone's dead, semi-ambiguously. ⁓ Justin Weakley: Mm. Zachary Wheeler: As they as they the warehouse, so that's my quick. It's honestly not a very complicated movie. It's kind of like heist goes bad and we all show back up and try to figure out why it went bad and And we end up all shooting each other Justin Weakley: Mm-mm. No, it's really not. Yeah, yeah, well done. Very well put together plot summary, Zachary. Yeah, I think I agree with you. I really enjoyed it. ⁓ I mean, yeah, first time seeing it. Always heard about it. Never watched it. ⁓ Similar to you, like I feel like several 90s hits, the big classics of the 90s. I agree. I just didn't really get into Fight Club. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: So this was your first time you said? Yeah, The movie is like not very good for me personally until like the last 20 minutes when they kind of like the the reveal happens and the twist happens and then the last 20 minutes I thought was actually pretty good but like it's like 70 minutes of buildup for 20 minutes. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. There's just, I feel like there are several movies that I have always, like Boondock Saints. I've never seen Boondock Saints, but I've never, I've never... Yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. It's okay. It's again, it's like the machismo of the 90s, encapsulated in a movie, and a lot of people take the wrong messages from it, and it's, again, it's like not meant to be like this positive rah-rah, like yeah, look at a, you know, kind of, I don't know, Woodstock 99 mentality, right, that seemed to permeate the 90s. Justin Weakley: You No. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, I think I agree with you. just, I've always known about reservoir dogs. I've never actively. sat down and like, I'm going to watch this today because yeah, to your point, I think you make a very good point. It's just some of the nineties movies, especially some of Quentin Tarantino's and stuff. Kill Bill is okay. I don't really enjoy it as much as his later movies. ⁓ but yeah, this was, I was really invested. I was hooked from start to finish. I mean, from the intro scene where they're sitting at the diner all the way to the end. I mean, and it's a quick movie. too. I think it's probably one of the shorter movies that we've watched. Yeah. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I guess an hour 40, which I was like, I got that in age the best. I'm like, God, love, sometimes I just want like a quick, zippy movie, get through everything, right? You know, you leave, you feel good at the end. Like any movie today would be like two and a half hour slog, and you're like, oh my God, okay, let's move on, you know? So I loved how short this was. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, especially, especially like we've talked about too, when you have young kids trying to sit down and watch a two plus hour movie is just sometimes it's just kind of tough. So. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. No, I was able to watch this one. I got up early. I was able to watch it before they even woke up. I was like, this is perfect. Short movie. Love it. Justin Weakley: You had a little, had some violence to start your day. But yeah, it was great. I really, really enjoyed it. I mean, I feel like thinking about it now, I'm kicking myself that this was, I waited this long to watch it because it was, it was good. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, right. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's No, I agreed. I really liked it. It was it was a lot of fun I thought like the characters even though they're like the worst people a lot of them are very likable Even though you know, you're like killing cops and and and robbing diamond stores, but you know, it's like they're still very fun, I thought and We'll get into the characters individually. I thought the dialogue was Justin Weakley: Mm. Mm-hmm. you Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: really well done, which Quentin Tarantino is known for, his dialogue. And I will say, there's like times when I think it's really good, and there's times when it's like very Quentin Tarantino-y and they're... You can tell he's very proud of his writing sometimes. So I would describe it like, ⁓ he really likes this weed pot guy story, you know, like the cop had. He really likes that because it's like he's very proud of it. there's he's really featuring it. Justin Weakley: ⁓ for sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You I would love to know if there's like a behind the scenes documentary, I would love to know how he writes his dialogue because so much of it, I feel like that is his standout trait, right? Is he takes conversations that would be just completely mundane, but he makes them the most interesting things. Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No. Yeah, they're just shooting the shit in the first scene of the movie, the diner scene where they're getting ready. They're talking about Madonna albums. They're just shooting shit, you know? It's it's great. I don't even talk this cleverly in real life. Like, it's more interesting. His writing is more interesting than my conversations. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it makes you... Yeah, but like I think the thing that I really enjoy watching some of those scenes like those dialogue scenes is because I feel like we are conditioned in most movies that like if you hear dialogue it usually holds some type of weight to the greater story, to the greater plot, right? Because that is why the character is telling you this. So many of his scenes in his movies, it's like you're just having a conversation with your friend over dinner. You're just talking about random things that really don't matter or don't pertain to anything. ⁓ Like we'll talk about the tipping hole monologue from Mr. Pink at the diner, but... I feel like that is one of the cooler things about his movies is his dialogues. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, you know, I think it's a really underrated and underutilized trick that you're talking about here where I feel like it sets up characters so well. You know who all the... You don't even know their names in that opening diner scene, but you get their faces and you start hearing their philosophies and their dialogue. And I'm really glad Quentin Tarantino's character didn't stay around the whole time because he's a little philosophical for me, you know, in some ways. Justin Weakley: You Yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: But I'm glad there was like, he's good in how he uses himself in movies, I feel like. Because I feel if he had put himself as a much bigger role, it's too much of him. He's just not like that charismatic. He's pretty off putting a lot of times. And there's just like enough of him in his movies where he can come in and do something that he's like quirky. And you're like, okay, that's good enough. We got you for your 10 minutes. Thanks, you know. Justin Weakley: Yeah. He's not that. ⁓ Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Zachary Wheeler: Django I think is my favorite use of Imperiod in Django when he's like bringing this, when they're captured in this slave cart and he walks up and he shoots Quintantina who's holding like a thing of dynamite and he explodes. I do love that scene, but. Justin Weakley: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, he's ⁓ don't know. Quentin is like we talked about. I feel like you you either really really like his movie, his style of movie, or it's just probably not for you. Which I, that's the other thing too. I can understand, you know, if somebody watches his movies and is like, this just isn't for me. I get it. Because it's Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it's like Wes Anderson for me, right? Like I'm not, I just can't get on board for like a Wes Anderson movie. Like every once in a while I'll see one and it's like, it's okay. But I'm like, I have to put aside all of his quirkiness, you know? And for Quentin Tarantino, it's like snappy dialogue, a lot of slurs, a lot of cursing and pretty hyper violent in his movies. Yeah. And so like you, I could totally see why you would not be like, this is not my cup of tea. Justin Weakley: He's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Mm-hmm. They are, yeah, extremely violent. Mm-hmm. And his... Zachary Wheeler: And honestly, a lot of his characters are kind of unlikable that he makes too. Justin Weakley: Yeah, they're all... I feel like most of his characters are all deplorables. ⁓ They're really bad people, but... Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Even like his good ones, his good guys are still like, they're a little fucked up. Jango's a little fucked up, you know? Justin Weakley: Yes, they are. Yeah, mean, Django basically commits like, you know, plantation genocide. ⁓ mean, which ⁓ you obviously make the argument that they deserved it all the things. But yes, you can make the argument that he killed a lot of people. ⁓ But yeah, I mean, Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. He's pretty merciless, you know what mean? it's like, what you get, I they're slave owners. He usually puts them against like the worst people. It's like slave owners, Nazis, cults, right? Like, you're like, all right, well, you you guys are all the worst. Justin Weakley: Mmm quit Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, this movie, I feel like it was it was a really fun romp. ⁓ I really enjoyed the quick runtime because like, yeah, especially talking about his more recent movies. I remember going to see Django in theaters and there was an intermission. Yeah. And. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it's a long movie. is Once Upon a in Hollywood. It's really long. Justin Weakley: I mean, like they are extremely long movies. So this whole thing, it just, felt tight. It felt cohesive. It felt perfect. Just in terms of runtime and plot and everything. I really, really enjoyed it. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, me too. Do wanna get into the categories? Let's kick it off. All right. So we're gonna have a few different superlatives here. Best scene, best character, worst character or weakest link in the film. Age the best, age the worst. WTF are they talking about? What would you like to see in a sequel? Which this movie kind of has like a spiritual sequel. Or what would have happened the next day? They're all dead, I don't know yet. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: And then we'll finish up with our hot takes and nitpicks and then last we'll come back and rate it as a classic. So let's start off with best seen. Do you want to give me your first candidate? Justin Weakley: Yeah, this is is tough. I need to whittle it down. But all right, I'm going to start off with we're going to start off with Mr. Pink. Mr. Pink's escape. So, yes, yes. Zachary Wheeler: Okay. The running through is running through the yeah, yeah, yeah Justin Weakley: Well, so when Mr. Pink gets to the warehouse after Mr. White and Orange are there, ⁓ he's talking to White and White's like, how did you get away? And he's like, he's very good. You know, they're having a calm conversation at this point. He's like, I had to shoot my way out. And it just like breakneck speed throws you into that scene and you see him running away. ⁓ And you see this high energy chase. He pulls a lady out of a car. He kills a couple of cops or maybe one or two cops. But and all of it is extremely well done, especially for like looking up this movie and seeing. I'm pretty sure this was Quentin's very first movie. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: think he kills two, yeah. It's his first movie. I think it's like one of Steve Buscemi's first movies, too. Like the biggest name actor is like Harvey Keitel, Mr. White at the time, you know, looking at the cast, right? Justin Weakley: Yeah, and Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I guess just like watching how even that entire scene was filmed all the way to like the the practical effects where he's firing his gun and it actually looks like he's really firing his gun. All of it was it's like you have this. No, you have this calm conversation between these two dudes. They're kind of freaking out, but they it just throws you into this chaos. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: That's not CGI muzzle flash, you know? Justin Weakley: post-heist, they're like trying to escape with their lives, to recap what exactly Mr. Pink went through. And then you come right back into the conversation. It's like that breakneck speed and then slamming the brakes, but it just, it happened so early in the movie and it was like, whoa, that was really fun. Like, is, what am I, what are we watching here? That was really cool. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it was fun. Yeah, I love that whole scene. To me, I wrote down, I like, I could just have a movie of the dialogue between Mr. White and Mr. Pink. Like them going back and forth, getting mad at each other, coming back on terms with each other, like they were great. I thought that that whole, before everyone else gets back and Mr. Orange is like bleeding out, passed out, right? It's a great scene, but I agree with you. Justin Weakley: Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: I had, ⁓ The opening scene where they're going in the diner and they're talking about Madonna and then there's the whole tipping fiasco I thought that was one of my favorite scenes just opened up great. I was like, I'm like he really is good dialogue Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. I love. Yeah, he is. I really, really enjoyed the tipping dialogue. Because I feel like, okay, and it's like, I had this, I'm not. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Justin Weakley: Spoiling anything here from our categories, but I had this underage the best like okay that dialogue the tipping dialogue is a great example of how he writes right because You have mr. Pink you get a glimpse of who mr. Pink is mr. Pink's a piece of shit and mr. Pink is gonna look out for mr. Pink, right? so you get the sense very early on that if Clearly these are two bad dudes. You don't know what they're gonna do at that point, but you know that they're up to something and you get the sense that if if shit goes down Mr. Pink's probably just gonna watch his own back and not care about anybody else right he's he seems like a rat ⁓ not a rat in the sense of you know working for the cops whatever but just he seems slimy Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he seems like he's breaking. You know, get him in front of a cop or in front of the police station, he's breaking. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. Like you can tell right out of the gate, he's kind of a piece of shit and that is completely telegraphed, right? Because after the heist goes down, Mr. Pink is trying to convince Mr. White like we need to get out of here. I don't know what's going on. Zachary Wheeler: And his def- and his defense. I don't think he's wrong. ⁓ Justin Weakley: No, exactly, right? But whereas Mr. White is... he's... Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he's got like a code. Yeah. Justin Weakley: Yeah, right. He's he does not want to leave Mr. Orange. He's like we need he's going to die if we don't do something. He's Mr. White is thinking morally and he's, you know, trying to put others before himself. Mr. Pink. No, it's just me. We need to get out of here. I stashed the diamond somewhere like I know where they're hidden. I know where they're safe. We need to get out of here. Screw the other people. Right. But you you can get a sense of that from that tipping scene. Right. Because he doesn't he doesn't care about these waitresses. He doesn't care about their hard life. or you know this is what they got to do to make a living. He does not care. It goes against his code of conduct, right? I'm not gonna tip. Zachary Wheeler: Okay, do you think he's got a point? Okay, tipping culture in the US has gotten crazy since COVID. Look, I'm not saying that we shouldn't tip, okay? I'm just saying, pay your people fairly, and then if you do a good job, I'll tip you. You know what I mean? Justin Weakley: Whoa, whoa. Whoa, man, you are Mr. Pink That's your new name. ⁓ Pink ⁓ No, mean, ⁓ yeah, can, yeah, tipping culture. I think. Zachary Wheeler: COVID, no, I feel like COVID made tipping go out of control. like, it used to be like base was 15. If I'm ordering at a register, I'm not tipping you, you know, kind of thing. And now it's like, I'm tipping with like, there's this taco restaurant right by my office and I go there, it's a touchscreen. It asks me if I want a tip. I'm like, no. So what, because I ordered myself and then I had to go reach behind the table to get my drink cause there's no one there. Justin Weakley: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You Zachary Wheeler: my drink cup. So no. Justin Weakley: Yeah, no, can, hey, I completely agree with you. I think there are boundaries with modern day tipping and that's your only saving grace with this argument right now, Zachary. He's talking about tipping in 1992 where none of that existed back then. Zachary Wheeler: Hey, tipping doesn't exist in Europe the way it does here. You know, I'm just saying like, he's called, Mr. Pink is probably European cultured. That's what he really is. Justin Weakley: That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, yeah, but all of that to say is that scene I feel like is a wonderful example of his dialogue and how he gives you these glimpses, these shades of these characters. Yeah, right. He's. Exactly, yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he builds character. Yeah, he builds character through dialogue without exposition and I do think that like a lot of modern movies miss that just exposition all the time move move move even if it is like two and a half hour movie There's like still plot pop plot. Let me go punch around for 30 minutes You know You another scene Justin Weakley: Hmm. Yeah, yeah, I agree. ⁓ I do, I feel like this was probably my favorite scene. ⁓ Mr. Orange's flashback after you find out that he is the cop. Yeah, yeah, so like when he is prepping with his partner, I think it's his partner. I don't know if they, yeah, yeah. But he's... Zachary Wheeler: Okay, and he's getting trained and how to do and everything Yeah, partner or sergeant or something, yeah. Justin Weakley: Again, feel like this movie does a great job of making you think about things that you wouldn't typically think about maybe, right? Like with the fallout of what happens if a heist goes wrong. Like, are you... What if there's a rat? What if somebody notices you? You can't take him to the hospital because now he knows your name. Like all of these things that you generally probably don't think about as a viewer. And I thought Mr. Orange's flashback was right in line with that because his partner, chief, whoever, is telling him. Like you need to under like you have to know how to tell a funny story to these people and you need to stick with it. You need to know the details all the things right, but that whole scene so you he's learning the basics of like why is this important? Why do I need to know how to do this to then he's practicing it and he's starting to remember those details and he's starting it to expound on those details to he's telling that story to ⁓ White Eddie and ⁓ Joe, I think it's like a bar or something, right? He's in the moment. He's telling them the story and they're asking him questions about it he's giving them answers back. He's got it memorized so thoroughly and he believes it so thoroughly. ⁓ Just that whole scene watching Mr. Orange's transformation. I thought it was just really cool. Because yeah, I feel like that's probably something that... Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Justin Weakley: I don't know if it gets explored a whole lot about like undercover cops and what they go through, but it gives you again, a glimpse into Mr. Orange and what he's done to get to this point. I it was really fun. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it makes kind of like him being shot all the more tragic, right? Justin Weakley: Yeah, and it makes him more of like a, clearly he is on a path. He wants to get Joe. Like that is his MO. And so looking at the things that he's willing to do ⁓ to get to that point, I thought it was just a really cool scene. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, agreed. It was good, like that too. I had the naming scene. When they're cute, he's like, you'll be orange, know, Joe's naming them all. And then obviously Mr. Pink just like can't, he's like, I'll be Mr. Purple, I'll do anything. It doesn't matter. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. You He doesn't want to be Mr. Pig. Yeah. I also thought that was just a fun little like plot point that they all didn't know each other. So they all got aliases so that they couldn't know each other's names and they were colors. Like that's just a fun idea. Yeah. Okay, here's a question for you. What would your name be if you were a part of the group? Zachary Wheeler: And then they're just all giving him shit for it. Like, from a color perspective? Hmm. Let's see. Alright, so white was taken. Blonde was taken. Orange was taken. Pink was taken. Blue. And brown. So mean, red's still out there. I'm not a big red guy, but you know, still out there. I don't know if I... Justin Weakley: Yeah, what color would you be? I I think Brown was, yeah. You can be something crazy. feel like blonde is not an obvious ⁓ normal color name, but... Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, like chartreuse, Mr. Chartreuse. I don't think I think that one, you know, I'm probably like, yeah, I'm like a seafoam green, you know, easy and breezy. Yeah, there you go. What color you got? What's your color? There you go. Justin Weakley: Yeah, that would be fun, Mr. Chartreuse. feel like I could see you as like Mr. Indigo. I don't know why you look like an indigo. Mr. Green, all day, easy. I don't know how nobody was green. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: We'll hit a blonde, so you know. Not even a color. I'll be like Mr. Burnett. Or in my case, Mr. Skin-colored no hair. Justin Weakley: Yeah. You Zachary Wheeler: I don't know, this stupid. Okay, alright, Any more scenes? I think the naming scene for me... That's pretty much my last one. Was it the torture scene? Justin Weakley: ⁓ Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Now we can... As much as I love the torture scene, no, it was not... Yeah, that one kind of came out of nowhere, right? I wasn't expecting it. Zachary Wheeler: I love when Mr. Blonde got shot. I like that part. Yeah. But no, the torture scene is a tough watch. It's tough. Justin Weakley: Yes, yes it Zachary Wheeler: I makes you really hate that guy. Also makes you wonder, not to get on like nitpicks. But like what- like why the f- why would Joe trust this guy? Complete psychopath. Like- Justin Weakley: Yeah, he is a psychopath. Which I feel like, yeah, you get to see him being a psychopath in action. Zachary Wheeler: Well, because they open up with it, they're like, dude, Blonde lost his mind at the robbery. And you don't really know. Justin Weakley: Yeah, like they talk about it, but you don't, you kind of have to just go off their word. They're like, ⁓ yeah, I guess he was crazy, but yeah, you actually get to see it. He is a psycho. Zachary Wheeler: What's your verdict on your favorite scene? Justin Weakley: I'll just go with Mr. Orange's flashback. Yeah, I think that's it for me. Zachary Wheeler: Okay. Good. I think I'm gonna go with I think the opening scene of the diner I think it just started the movie off with like a home run set up expectations and had us going Alright, so let's get the best character because all of these guys are like solid dudes, you know Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, you kick it off. Who's your who's your best character? Zachary Wheeler: I think my first nominee's gotta be Mr. Pink. Like Steve Buscemi is so good in this movie. He's great. Yeah, I love him, right? You know, he's great in everything he's in. He's completely insane. Half the time, great character actor. I like him playing more straight and still having that kind of goofiness to him. But I thought Mr. Pink was great. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He was really fun. Like they all, I don't know, some of them were just kinda, like Mr. White is very serious, but Mr. Pink, just, he kinda has it all. He's pretty funny. Zachary Wheeler: I Like hi, we can tell that I do like mr. White too. I thought he was good, but I Don't like he's not the standout to your point, right? Like All right. Who do you got? What's your first nominee? Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. ⁓ I'm gonna limit it down to one. I had Mr. Orange on here, that's just because he's like the best one out of all of them. But... Zachary Wheeler: Okay. Yeah, he's like, you know, a good guy, at least, sorta. Kills a woman, but yeah. Justin Weakley: somebody out of left field I have Eddie and the reason why Yeah, the reason why I have Eddie Eddie completely subverted my expectations of his character I think ⁓ you when you ⁓ Eddie ⁓ at the diner and then ⁓ some scenes in the car towards the end you get the sense Eddie is ⁓ gonna be just like the Zachary Wheeler: Alright, there you go. Justin Weakley: the goofy son of the crime boss, right? Who is... Yeah, he's like incompetent. Exactly, right? He is crime boss's son who cannot live up to his father. When he gets to the warehouse, he is... Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he's over his head, doesn't know what he's doing. Like, he wants to be the big guy, but he doesn't got it kind of thing. Justin Weakley: completely opposite from what I expected how he was how that whole thing was going to go down the other guys are spiraling right like they are beating up this cop and you white and pink are beating up the cop and blonde is just sitting there like you know what I don't know what he's doing but Eddie no no no no he this is before ⁓ blonde eyes Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. He's dead at that point, isn't he? ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, before they leave with the cars, yeah. Justin Weakley: Yeah, but Eddie comes in and he he brings them back down to earth and he gives them really good, arguably good direction on like, this is what you need to do. ⁓ But there was like what he was. Zachary Wheeler: No, he's truly menacing at the end of the movie too. When, yeah. Justin Weakley: He is, yeah. Like he has a surprising amount in that scene when he comes into the warehouse, he has a surprising amount of intelligent direction, right? Like he's, he questioned like, why are you guys beating them, beating up the cop? If you beat him up, eventually he's gonna tell you something, but it's not gonna be the right answer or the truth. But he's gonna tell you something to get you to stop. So you need to stop beating him up. And he's like, ⁓ it looks like there's a ⁓ used car lot of cars outside. We need to move all of those, right? Like he is calm and collected. I don't know if he can say calm, but he's collected. He has a clear sense of this is what we need to do to try to get this back on the rails. ⁓ also at the end ⁓ when he comes back after blonde eyes he completely calls orange's bluff completely ⁓ but yeah Eddie I feel like ⁓ was my favorite because he did not go the way that I thought he was gonna go you know ⁓ thought he was just gonna be some goofy dude in a tracksuit that gets killed ⁓ he's just completely incompetent ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Now, let's get cool. Hahaha Yeah, I think the only other one that I had, I do like your choice for Eddie. I also, I will put Mr. White up there. I really liked him, but I love Harvey Keitel, so I can't like be unbiased about it. He's, you know, he's always, he always be like my FBI agent from National Treasure, you know, like. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Nerd. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: I have fond memories of him, know, growing up, so. But I think, yeah. But yeah, that's really my only two people I was gonna put up as best character, pink and white. But I like your choice of Eddie. You might have convinced me on Eddie. I think he's a pretty good supporting actor, kinda, for this movie. Yeah, for sure. Justin Weakley: Yeah. They're really... ⁓ He's a sleeper pick. Big Eddie. So then that takes us to the worst character. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Justin Weakley: if it is it a conversation ⁓ yeah yeah yeah no it's mr ⁓ blue is mr blue who's in like one scene yeah i mean i i well i know we kind of break down our best and worst characters kind of on like two different scales between you know Zachary Wheeler: the cop, right? Who gets tortured? Yeah, who's... Mr. Blue, yeah, has the three lines he has in the movies. Justin Weakley: Like a hero or villain type deal or the worst actor? The worst actor? I don't know. I thought they were all really, really good. ⁓ I have one complaint about Mr. Orange, but we'll talk about that later. ⁓ But I feel like my worst character is just Mr. Blonde. hate... Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. Yeah, like... Okay. No, this movie is incredibly cast and they're all very good in it. You know, I think the worst character is you have to look at it from like who's really a big piece of shit in this movie and you're really hate and that's Mr. Blonde, obviously. So, yeah. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Mm. Mr. Blonde. I saw he was on, according to Wikipedia, Mr. Blonde was on AFI's top 100 best villains. And that... Yes he is. I mean, he's... Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he's insane. And don't really see it because you have that opening scene with him in the diner. He's kind of fine. Then there's the opening scene where he meets Joe after coming out of prison and all that stuff. And the only thing you've really heard is like, yeah, he's crazy. He's gone insane. But ⁓ my God, that torture scene. ⁓ it's brutal. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. As I was rough to watch and yeah, I thought it was OK. So like when White is talking about Mr. Blonde and how he he snapped in the diamond jewelry store or wherever they were. When he talks about him killing people, I mean, it sounds like he was doing it execution style, just going from person to person to person, which I don't know, because we don't see that scene, you're kind like, I don't know, maybe, you know. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like, do you really believe it? Are they misremembering? Because everything was in chaos. Like, is he really the one that's caused this all? Or was there something, you know, it's like the mystery of him being crazy kind of throws a wrench into that mystery, right? But then when you see him in full action, holy shit. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah, that torture scene. I mean, from the moment he tells the cop, ⁓ like, I don't care what you have to say, I'm still going to torture you. And then he just he enjoys it. He's dancing. it's which also, I was so curious up until that point, like what the purpose of those like the radio host. Zachary Wheeler: He's like dancing around to 70s music. Justin Weakley: coming over the scenes throughout the movie. I didn't know what the... Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, the radio one was the one that was the most curious part to me. I'm not really sure what that was all meant to be about. Justin Weakley: Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming the whole point of it because you hear it at least two times before that torture scene. ⁓ I don't know, whether it's just like background noise or it holds a bigger, you know, plot movement device or something, but I think it just ties into him. He talks about like, do you listen to, can't remember what the radio station is, but 70s on 70 or something like that. And ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. Justin Weakley: he's like that's that's like my favorite I love it and he turns it up and that's what he tortures him to so I think it like it all ties into Mr. Blonde's torture scene but it just yeah that he is the worst character by far he's completely insane Zachary Wheeler: I know. Yeah, nah, there's no one even close as like the most evil and the most, you know, Eddie's pretty evil, but, but I've, yeah, they're all not good, right? White kills two cops. ⁓ Pink kills cops. ⁓ Blonde tortures a cop. Eddie shoots a cop. Justin Weakley: Yeah, they all are really terrible people. mean, yeah, I think like, yeah, in like a pretty, yeah. They all have their terrible deeds. I thought it was really funny too, because the way that Pink has to kill a cop is in pure self-defense. He is behind a car. Well, exactly. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I don't know, self-defense, but evading law. Yeah, like, he's not, yeah, he's not, he's doing it with, you utility. Justin Weakley: Yeah, when we get to see Mr. White in action at the end of the movie, he rolls, he's walking towards the cop car as they're driving to him with two pistols and just unloads. mean, like, I think you could make a case that he also has a mental break in that scene because it just, don't know. Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ he's just unloading. Yeah. Well, you see, he is a little panicked, right? He seems like the most genuinely like decent or at least has a code, right? He has like a code and he abides by it and he's also very empathetic to his colleagues if for lack of a better term, right? He's pretty empathetic. He's also obviously loves crime and is terrible. But ⁓ like he does have moments of empathy in the movie. ⁓ Justin Weakley: Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: But yeah, no, I think we can settle on it. Mr. Blonde is like the worst. He's such a good villain. And it makes me want to go, why did you hire him? I'm the same with Mr. White. Like, why did we hire this guy? Completely loose cannon. Justin Weakley: He really is. Yeah. Yeah, I completely agree. Zachary Wheeler: Alright, do you have anything for age the best? Justin Weakley: I mean, we've talked about it. I had one thing, but just his dialogue and we don't, we don't have to hash it out because I, but I think that that will historically, I feel like throughout the course of time, hold, hold true for Quentin Tarantino movies. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he's a master of dialogue for sure. If not, I'm not always like a fan of his dialogue, because it's like, he gets into some weird places. He goes weird with it, but I do enjoy it. It's very well done. I had the suits, they're suits, very snappy, like the look of the film, that kind of noir suit look. I had Steve Buscemi because he's excellent, he's great. And then we talked about it, had... Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yes he does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Mm-hmm. Mmm. Yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: short runtime just thumbs up all the way man i did not feel like a chore trying to watch this movie it was thumbs up why we're probably not going to do lawrence of arabia anytime soon it's four hours long not doing ben her sorry we're not doing 10 commandments but those are those will be like those will be like our like you know 100th episode 200th episode yeah Justin Weakley: Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great call. ⁓ my god. Yeah. We'll do it in inst- Yeah, we'll do them in installments, like four parts. Yeah, good call. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, exactly. And then the last one I had was nonlinear storytelling. Like I think it's a fun trick that I think he was like one of the, let's say he pioneered it. I think Rashomon did it. ⁓ But ⁓ I do think he, you know, he brought it to like mainstream in a lot of ways. And so I thought that aged pretty well. Justin Weakley: Mmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, those are all good call outs because completely agree on all of them. Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ Alright, let's get to age the worst. What do you got besides, you know, torture? Justin Weakley: the... very ⁓ generous use of the N-word with the hard R. That... Zachary Wheeler: Yep, I had n-word and stereotypes, for sure. Justin Weakley: That was, I don't understand. I don't understand how it fits in the context of this movie. Like, okay, not to, I don't know. We're not getting political by any means, but I understand why the N word is used in a movie like Django, because it takes place during slavery where that type of language is probably more prevalent than it is today. But even in 1992, I don't know why it is used so much in this movie. There's... Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. It's like a hallmark of Quentin Tarantino. He does that. It's the problem. That's where his dialogue falls apart to me is when he goes to these like weird places where like it almost feels like this is going to sound terrible, but it almost feels like he's like living out like living out a fantasy through his dialogue. He's like, oh, let me think of the most fucked up thing you could say. And then he like, let's other people say it for him. I'm not saying that's actually how he thinks, but it just kind of feels that way. Like there's like a grossness to his dialogue sometimes. Justin Weakley: Yeah, but I just don't. Hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No. Zachary Wheeler: that I'm like, we didn't have to go here, know, man? Like I'm trying to, I get it, like your thing is shocking off, but like, ⁓ Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah, I mean there are I think I counted there are three separate scenes where they use it and it just comes out left field I mean like there is zero context I feel like where it could be reasonably applied and even then I feel like it's just I don't know but it's Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ yeah, there's slurs about gays in here too. There's Jewish slurs in here. it's... It's slurring all over the place. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean it's... Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. ⁓ But yeah, I don't know. Those... Those were tough to chew on in 2026. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, that's like when they're talking about all the prison, you know, girlfriend stuff. And again, it's just like he's he's writing dialogue. He's trying to be like as it's almost like he's like trying to be as. Gross and shocking as possible sometimes, and that's like where his dialogue falls apart for me a little bit, but. I did have one on Eddie. Eddie refers to his dad as daddy several times, not good. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Mmm. ⁓ You don't want Henry to call you daddy when he gets older. Zachary Wheeler: Not a grown man saying, daddy, not good. ⁓ no. I don't want anyone calling me daddy. Period. Okay? Call me a prude. I don't care. Justin Weakley: You Is that is that going to go in? Is that your monologue like Mr. Pink's tipping? Don't call me daddy. ⁓ are more like Mr. Pink than you think, buddy. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: No, yeah, I probably relate to this character the most. I'm like, get it. I get where you're coming from, Get out of there, leave your friends behind, and a heartbeat. know what, Justin, don't ever rob a bank with me, because if I got the diamonds, I'm out, bro. And then, you know, I don't like tipping. It's annoying. So I'm just not gonna... I never know who to tip, who not to tip. I hate the rules, okay? I'm just saying, come up with a system that makes sense. Justin Weakley: You Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna do any, yeah. Yeah. Hmm. the only other thing I had on here and this is, don't know, it's hard to hold it against this movie because it had such a low budget. But I think technically some of the audio was just really, it's not good. But I mean, there were several scenes in the warehouse where Yeah, I'm sure they just didn't have the budget and I, but it's very difficult to hear their conversation on some of those scenes, especially in the beginning when White is talking with Pink. I wrote it down. There's one scene where he's filming it there at the end of a hallway. And I, I truly was about to pull a, a you and turn on the subtitles. Cause I could not understand what they were saying. And I had it turned, like I had my volume turned all the way up. like, what the fuck? Zachary Wheeler: End of the hallway, yeah. Justin Weakley: ⁓ But I think that was just a limitation of what they were working with with such a small budget. yeah, it just didn't age well in the 30 years that this movie's been out. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, yeah. I had the Pam Greer, Kristi Love conversation. They're talking about like the two of them. All the racial stuff aside with that Rose conversation too. I just thought what it was really funny is they end it and they're like, well, I guess we don't know. I'm like in the day of cell phones. Those aren't like I missed those kind of arguments when you would like get in a fight like no, that was that was in he was in that movie. I swear and you'd be at the bar drinking. Justin Weakley: Mm. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: fighting about who was in a movie and now we're just like, ⁓ I think Matthew McConaughey was in that. Yeah, he was in that. Yeah, I just pull my phone out and look at it for five seconds. Like that whole conversation they have about was it her, was it someone else who was in it, who was not in it? Like the whole conversation is just doesn't happen anymore. Justin Weakley: Mm. Yeah, yeah, that is... Yeah, I feel like that also... Zachary Wheeler: and just whip your phone out. That's why I love playing trivia. That's why I love playing bar trivia. I can still have those conversations a little bit, you know? Justin Weakley: Yeah. I feel like that that same logic also kind of applies to several other points of the movie, like when white and pink or like, where is everybody? And they're like, we have no way to get a hold of Joe. It's like, dude, in this in this day and age, we just call him or text him, whatever. ⁓ But no, you're exactly right. That scene actually had that under a different on the WTF category, category, because I didn't I even know who they were talking about. I don't know any of those names. I didn't know if they're real people or if they were just made up names for the movie just completely over my head. Zachary Wheeler: Well, Pam Greer is a real person. She's ⁓ Jackie Brown in Jackie Brown. So I think that's her character's name. I've never seen that movie, but she's the woman in Jackie Brown. Justin Weakley: ⁓ okay. Yeah, you watch it. Jackie Brown has the famous scene with ⁓ Robert De Niro from our friend from your flipped good fellas. Yeah. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: There you go. And then the last age, the worst I had, it was this is a Miramax distributed movie. That's Harvey Weinstein's company. Just doesn't every time I see a mirror, Miramax, I'm like, they're not as well. Justin Weakley: I didn't know, so I guess I always knew Weinstein, the production, but I didn't know he was Miramax. The more you know. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, he's Miramax. That's like Quentin Tarantino, like got his start because of him in a lot of ways. At least he got brought into the mainstream of Hollywood. And like so did Ben Affleck, so did Matt Damon, you know, because he was the producer on Google hunting or so he like helped them get their starts. There's a lot of people that owe a lot to him in Hollywood and a lot of really, and it's like, you know, obviously all the canceled stuff and the terrible stuff he did. Justin Weakley: Hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, bad taste in your mouth even now ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: So just kind of link yours, you know? But anyways, all right, that's all I have for H the Worst. Okay, how about what are they talking about? There's only have one thing for this. Justin Weakley: Yeah, I already had I only had one and I already said it the The car scene with the names. I had no idea what was going on I didn't even bother looking it up because I was like I don't just over my head Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. So this one I have like I understand what it means but at the same time I'm like What are you talking about? So the when mr. White is getting hired and he's like, well, what's the cut and he says it's juicy So I get like juicy means like it's gonna be good, right? but like if someone if I'm at a job interview and I'm like What's the starting salary and they're like, it's juicy and I'm like, I don't know what that means Like is that a lot a little is it good? What's good for you could not be good for me, right? You know, like Justin Weakley: Mm. . Zachary Wheeler: I'm just saying like Juicy. I don't know. I can't negotiate against Juicy. I want Juicy plus like a few more zeros on the end of that please. If you could give me some context. Justin Weakley: Yeah. man i can't wait to next time we our families have dinner i'm to tell you to leave a juicy tip you see that brought it home Zachary Wheeler: Nice. There you go, there you go. Yeah, that's the only one I had though, because I was like, what the hell is... I just was like, didn't know what, I don't know how much is Juicy. Is Juicy good or bad? I don't know. Come on, tell me, you gotta give me little more than that. But, all right, sequels. Do you have, you're the sequel king. Do you have any ideas? Justin Weakley: Mmm. Yeah. Juicy. Ew. Ew. Mmm. Okay, so I had to look this up because in the Mexican standoff at the end, you is like, we don't okay, I don't think we technically see what happens to pink. According to Wikipedia, pink gets away. ⁓ He has the diamonds. Or wait, sorry. No, no, no, I'm sorry. I misread that. Pink flees the warehouse. I think right. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, we hear the cops come, yeah. Justin Weakley: Yeah, Wikipedia says that you hear a crash and gunshots. Zachary Wheeler: I definitely heard the gunshots. I don't remember the crash necessarily, but I heard the gunshots for sure. Justin Weakley: Yeah, so that's it, right? Like we, think we are meant to assume that he is dead. I guess really we have seen that he has evaded the cops before as they all have. ⁓ But I think if he's alive, that could be your sequel. Cause obviously he knows where the diamonds are. ⁓ But I don't know, I don't think there is a sequel or. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Justin Weakley: I mean, I guess you could do all sorts of prequels if you want to, you know, dive into any of the specific characters, but yeah, they all, we assume, die during this whole confrontation. So it kind of puts a stop to it right there. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, no, ⁓ exactly right, they're all kind of dead. I don't even know if, do you think Orange died? Justin Weakley: I think he did, because before White gets shot, he fires his gun. So unless he just chose to not shoot Orange, know, like shoot away from him or something, but he shot his gun. Zachary Wheeler: What, he's kinda pointing it at himself too in the process, which I was like, might get there injured and he's not really, so I'm like, I just didn't know if they actually were going to, ⁓ to actually, you know, did he definitively die? I'm not sure I quite know. I think White did for sure, but. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I think white did cuz he yeah the cops were yelling at him to put his gun down and that's when he fired and then they killed they take him out but even at that point he had already been shot in the standoff so I mean he was I don't think white was he wasn't getting out of that but the at the same time though Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Justin Weakley: you know what they say about making assumptions, right? We could assume that orange didn't die, we could assume that pink didn't die, and I don't know, maybe orange hunts down pink if they're both still alive. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, or maybe orange becomes disillusioned by the whole system and joins pink. Justin Weakley: Yeah, there you go and they pull another heist and then that goes wrong and they have to figure out who did it Zachary Wheeler: There you go. Yeah. It's so in the movie, Mr. Blonde's character's name is Vic Vega. And in Pulp Fiction, John Travolta's character's name is Vincent Vega. So like, I'm not sure if it's official or if there's if it's just a theory, but there is like that they're brothers. So like Pulp Fiction is like in the same universe as as Reservoir Dogs. It's like the you know. Justin Weakley: Hmm. Mmm. Mm-hmm. No. No. Zachary Wheeler: fun fan theory, guess, maybe it's been confirmed. I don't know. But they kind of like spiritual sequels. They're very similar in a lot of ways. But I think Reservoir Dogs is better and is more fun for me. But yeah, I don't really have any other great ideas for sequels. I think like Mr. Pink getting away, Orange surviving and then like either, yeah, hunting down Mr. Pink, hunting down the last member of the crew, even though Mr. Pink was like probably one of the least Justin Weakley: Hmm. Yeah. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Zachary Wheeler: Deplorable I don't think he did kill two cops man, and it's not good. Yeah, but anyways Justin Weakley: No. ⁓ He makes a comment about like he doesn't like to kill cops if he doesn't have to or people if he doesn't have to. I can't remember what he says exactly. I'm paraphrasing. But you get the sense that he has killed people before. ⁓ he's... But Pink seems like he would be a weasel and that would be really fun to go track him down. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Yeah. All right nitpicks or hot takes what do you got? Justin Weakley: Mmm. Okay, I only have two they're not huge but first Mr. Orange Tim Roth's like dying scene When they open up the movie, he's in the back of the car bleeding out Yeah, it just didn't it didn't do it for me ⁓ I thought it was like really overly acted and very overly dramatic ⁓ But especially Zachary Wheeler: ⁓ yeah, he's like writhing around and everything. Yeah, I'm like the whole writhing thing. mean, maybe I've just seen too many other movies that do it differently, because I guess I don't really know how you would act in real life. But it just seemed like, I'm like, you're just not in the stomach. Don't you think that would be incredibly painful just to writhe around? But maybe you are. I don't know. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just I don't know Opening up. Yeah opening up on that because I think that's the first scene after the after the diner I was Yeah, and it throws you right into some pretty you know intense emotions Zachary Wheeler: It was pretty overacted. Yeah, that's the hard cut. Justin Weakley: this like what are we watching here but luckily it gets better but yeah that just ⁓ it didn't do for me I wasn't really I didn't like that Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I getcha, I getcha. I had in the Mexican standoff, so White's got his gun at Joe, Eddie's got his gun at White, and Joe's got his gun at Orange. No one's pointing a gun at Eddie. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Hmm unless Zachary Wheeler: and Eddie somehow gets shot during it. like, I'm like, why has to get two shots off in that standoff before to get both Joe and Eddie? Justin Weakley: Did Pink, was he already gone at that point? Zachary Wheeler: Now Pink's like, he's back. So I'm like, I rewatched him like, well did Pink do the shot from the side and we just didn't see him or something? And I'm like, I think they kind of try to have White do two shots. But I'm like, no one's pointing a gun at Eddie. And somehow, Eddie gets shot. I mean, maybe Orange has, think, but Orange unloads this whole clip I felt like I saw into Blonde. So I don't think Orange has any bullets. So it's like, I just could not figure out exactly how the... Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Zachary Wheeler: how Eddie got shot when everyone's pointing their guns at other people. Justin Weakley: Okay, according to Google, Google says Mr. White kills him. It says in the final. Yeah, in the final shootout, Mr. White shoots, shoots Joe in return, Eddie shoots white and then white shoots and kills Eddie. Zachary Wheeler: So he has to kill Joe and Eddie then I guess. Justin Weakley: But it says there's a discrepancy. Eddie fell before White actually fired in the final cut due to a premature blood squib causing long-term confusion about his death. So there you go. Apparently you were right on the money. Yeah. That is you bring up a good point because yeah, you have. Zachary Wheeler: I'm not alone in that. Justin Weakley: I don't think orange is included in this at all because I think you're right. He fires every bullet he has into blonde. I mean, so much so that he is after he unloads, he's still trying to fire his gun, but he doesn't have any more ammo. So he's out and you have essentially Joe and Eddie both. pointing at white and white is only pointing at Joe. So I thought pink was involved from like off to the side because I was like how did yeah how did all three of them go down? I didn't understand that. Zachary Wheeler: All right, I want to add. Well, you got another one. go first. Justin Weakley: Um, yeah, it's, it wasn't a big one, kind of more of a, uh, hot take, I guess. But in the blonde's flashback scene, when he's talking to Joe and Eddie in his office and Eddie comes up and gives him a hug and then they wrestle. Like, what the fuck was that? Why was that in there? And then, and they'd like, I guess, but they move furniture so that they can wrestle. It just, it was just. Zachary Wheeler: Boys being boys. No, yeah, it's a little ridiculous. Justin Weakley: It was just weird. was like, what, what, what is this about? mean, I don't know. Maybe that's supposed to mean that they have, you know, a pretty deep relationship. They're almost like brothers, but it was just weird. That was an odd choice. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it's definitely goofy. It's like movie language, right? They're like, ⁓ yeah, we're gonna wrestle. People do that in real life. Maybe they do. Maybe we're just soy boys or something. don't know. Quentin Tarantino is Mr. Brown, right? That's his code name, if I remember correctly. Okay, one of my nitpicks. Why would white and orange let the guy who's been shot in the head drive the car? Justin Weakley: you Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm. Zachary Wheeler: in their giveaway. I don't understand why they let Brown do that. Why are they getting the car with them? Justin Weakley: Yeah, that's a point. No, don't make any sense. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: I'm like, if, cause if orange was driving or white was driving, they wouldn't have hit that car. Had to get out of the car, do the double shot. Like the whole movie would have been like, they got away. They're both healthy. I just don't know why they, why'd they get the car with brown? Why'd they go like, ⁓ yeah, you drive. Bullet in your head guy. Justin Weakley: As they say. They, yeah, I think White says too, like Brown got shot in the head. Like I saw it myself, he's dead. When they showed that scene, I thought that was before Brown gets shot. I thought that was just like a, I don't know, maybe, yeah, or like maybe somebody hit him in the head with something. Like I didn't think it was a bullet wound. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Like he skimmed his head or something. Yeah, bumped his head. Justin Weakley: But yeah, then he just collapses over and he's like, ⁓ okay. So that was a gunshot. Like what? Zachary Wheeler: I just don't understand like the two of you are perfectly healthy right now, right? You're you know, maybe you know high adrenaline But like the dudes got ⁓ all over his face. That's when you let drive ⁓ Justin Weakley: Yeah. You Zachary Wheeler: Okay, my other nitpick, which this might not be a nitpick, but like I don't understand it. Why? Because they have an inside man, the cops do, right? They're getting fed information from Tim Roth. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Zachary Wheeler: Why did they have to let the robbery go to the stage where cops are dying and civilians are dying before they actually arrest these guys? They have all the intel. I don't know if conspiracy before the fact, like pre-crime stuff, is maybe that's the problem. They actually have to commit the crime to do it. But I'm like, the cops let this thing get so far along that like, I think it's like five cops die. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Zachary Wheeler: and like four civilians die. Like nine people are dead. And you guys knew it was gonna happen. I just don't understand why you couldn't, you know, I'm sure Vic or Mr. Blonde was breaking his parole. I'm sure all those other guys had priors. Like you could have, I just don't understand why. You know where they're gonna be at the diner beforehand or. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: I just don't know why you get so far into the robbery where so many people are dying and have to get back to the warehouse and then all this stuff. It's just kind of crazy to me. But maybe I'm not a cop and I don't understand the law. Justin Weakley: The only... No, I mean, doesn't, I it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. Because, okay, the only thing that I think is said on that, when Orange is talking to the cop that Blonde tortures, he tells him, like, I need you to stay alive for just a little bit longer. Like, there's cops out there waiting to... Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I guess Joe wasn't at the robbery, so they couldn't have gotten. Justin Weakley: Well, so that's like the only thing Orange says, I need Joe, like once Joe gets here, once like I need Joe to walk in the room before they then they will come in. But maybe they just didn't plan on blonde because it sounds like blonde is the one that escalated everything and started killing people. And so that probably wasn't a part of the plan for them to start, you know, shooting and. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying like, if the news came out the next day that there was like a staying operation or like an undercover operation and five cops are dead and four civilians are dead and I'm like, the police chief is, you know, he's resigning, right? The next day. I feel like this was not a very well executed operation. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. It, I feel like to your point, if the whole thing is we have to incriminate Joe and Joe has to be present. I feel like you already had that at the diner because you're talking about the heist. You're, you're talking about doing this job and Joe is present. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, the only thing I can think of is like maybe talking about it's not illegal. You can talk about stuff all you want, right? But you can't do it. I don't know. It just seemed like a botched police operation. But anyways. Did you want to see the heist? Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. well, okay. So I feel like we have a very similar problem with Goodfellas, right? Because same thing, they talk about it, but we never get to see it. But this, I think it was done. I am fine with not seeing the heist because in this the heist is not like the point of interest. The entire, all of the interesting things happen outside of the heist. post heist and before heist. because that's the way that Quentin makes the movie. But I feel like similar to what we talked about with Mr. Blonde, how you don't see him going ballistic on people. inside the jewelry store. You don't see him completely snapping and murdering people and all the things you only get to hear it secondhand from Mr. White. So you're kind of up to your own devices to make up your mind like is this guy really a psycho or he seems almost kind of charming when he's talking to them. He seems like nice and you know all the things he even says like when white gets in his face like ⁓ you had my heart pumping like I like you got me nervous right like you kind of get the sense Zachary Wheeler: Yeah. Justin Weakley: like maybe he's not as bad as white says and then you know but all of that because we don't see what happened there I feel like it works in that sense Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I I think having it be a mystery is really good because it makes us to your point right have to figure out the mystery and so by just having it through their Dialogue, guess. Yeah, it makes it like makes the movie more compelling. I think not seeing it Plus it was probably expensive to shoot so they probably didn't Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. No. I feel like if you were going to put it in anywhere, you would, with this movie, because it's like a whodunit, who is, yeah, it would have to be at the end. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it's like the last scene of the movie or something. Yeah. But I'm making sure that it really matters. Like what happened at the robbery, right? Like the the real the real mystery is like, who's the rat really? You know, the the we understand that blondes a psycho and that the robbery was botched from their dialogue. We got all that. And so it's interesting to see if blonde really like did go nuts and or who shot first or all that stuff. But we kind of know the cops were there because It was an undercover operation. So it's all all it's interesting But I don't think you need to see it. I agree with you Justin Weakley: Hmm, yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Alright, any other hot takes you want to have or nitpicks you got? Justin Weakley: No, no, that's all I had on my side. Zachary Wheeler: All right, then let's, I think it's time that we rate this whether we think this should be a classic. I'll let you go first. Justin Weakley: Okay, no no no Mr. Pink, you go first this time. Zachary Wheeler: No, because I went first last time and then you had a different opinion from me and then I got very scared and I don't want to do that again. Justin Weakley: You Okay, we can have different opinions, but I think for me, did. Yeah, I would write this as a classic. I thought it was really, really good. It was really fun. ⁓ I mean, for Yeah, it's a tough one, because it's not this movie did not do like gangbusters. It was not like a huge hit. It was like a cult classic and Zachary Wheeler: Hahaha Yeah. I still, I would venture to say most people still have not seen this movie. Even if you're a Quentin Tarantino fan, you have to be like a completist to see it. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so many of our other movies that we have watched and not not to compare anything, but like so many of our other movies, they are Academy Award winners. They, you know, smashed box offices and all the things right. This was not that, but it is so good that I would I would put it on a classics list for sure. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, I agree. just in like, actually, I actually think the constraints on this movie, the financial constraints and the scale of the movie being small really works to its advantage and it feels cinematic. The dialogue is great. The, I love that they don't use so many close-up shots. It's like, you know, we talked about the scene where they're down the hallway discussing it or they're out in the parking lot discussing it. Like he kind of circles in like, Justin Weakley: Hmm. Zachary Wheeler: closeups and really far away shots was I really like. It's a very dynamically made movie. You can tell even as Quentin Tarantino's first movie, like he has his style kind of already nailed in, dialed in. Yeah, I agree. It's a classic. I thought it was really fun movie. ⁓ Yeah, I really enjoyed it. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. I saw a wild, mean Wikipedia has a ton of fun little facts about this movie, but I saw at one point, I think within, what was it, like last 10 or 15 years, Quentin was thinking about remaking this movie, ⁓ which he obviously decided against, but how interesting that a director would go back and remake their very first movie. I don't even know how you would remake this. What would you do differently? I don't know. Zachary Wheeler: Mm-hmm. Yeah, like, do you want more spectacle? Like, you know, I enjoy that it's not full of spectacle. There's a little bit of action, right, that's pretty quick. Yeah, I don't know. You know, I think it would be interesting to see a director do that. I would love to see like how they've refined their vision. I mean, really, maybe not Steven Spielberg now. Justin Weakley: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: But like Steven Spielberg in like the early or maybe late 2000s, when he's coming off Minority Report and all those movies, and I think the height of his like... kind of behind him with a lot of his big blockbusters. He's got some stuff coming out, I got Lincoln still and he's got other things ⁓ ⁓ I'd be thinking be really interesting to see like at that time period a Steven Spielberg like remake like one of his early movies like Jaws or something like really early ⁓ movies of his Just to see like how far he had developed in his craft ⁓ ⁓ probably not a lot of money in that but you know ⁓ Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking about thinking about Tarantino saying earth. tossing around the idea of remaking this movie. I can't remember when it said he was talking about doing that, but it makes me think that he decided against remaking this and then he went and made Hateful Eight. If you ever watch Hateful Eight, it has a lot of similarities in it. ⁓ And it does, it feels like maybe he took that opportunity to make a more, you know, just lengthier story with more intricate pieces. So. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, it be I need I do need to watch it. I think it'd be interesting to compare to this movie. I think he's really you know, Quentin Tarantino is like interesting. He kind of works in like like movies of two. So like, you know, he made Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction like very stylistically the same. they have like kind of like this DNA to them. And then, you know, he gets into like Justin Weakley: Mm. Zachary Wheeler: the Kill Bill and the Grindhouse. It's kind of like surreal, almost like real life anime between those ones or just kind of like schlocky. And then he comes and he makes Django and Hateful Eight, right? Like two Westerns back to back. And then he made Once Upon a in Hollywood and now they're doing that Cliff Booth sequel. He's not directing it, but he's like producing it. And so it's like, feels like, I think he gets like in his zone, you know? Justin Weakley: Hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Zachary Wheeler: Like, it's like, really interested in this thing. I'm gonna make couple movies out of it. All right, now I'm ready to move on to, you know, my other passion, which is like, whatever, but. Justin Weakley: Do you remember a few years ago when he was supposedly attached to like a Star Trek movie? Like it doesn't, I don't even see, then again, I don't know. You're exactly right. He kind of goes through these phases and maybe he could get into a futuristic sci-fi phase, but I feel like I just can't see him doing anything like that. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, yeah, I do. No, I don't think I don't even know how true that was honestly like I was a pretty like substantiated rumor That it was going around It'd be interesting. I'd watch it for sure. I have Justin Weakley: And I tell you, would have to figure out how to say the N word in space because that's what he would do it. Zachary Wheeler: There's like he'd be like calling the Klingons like wrinkle heads or something like that, you know Yeah, he'd make some up for like like pointy ears and he'd make he makes him up for sure He'd have Kirk being like, you know pretty foul Justin Weakley: There he'd fit some slurs in there somehow. ⁓ Zachary Wheeler: really really changes Geordi's character from Star Trek Next Generation, right? You know, when you put like Sam Jackson in the role. Justin Weakley: Yeah, it'll have a hard an R rating for Mature for sure. Zachary Wheeler: Yeah, for sure. All right, man, classic. I think I'm out. I'm out on this movie, but out of thoughts. I loved the movie. It was good. Justin Weakley: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, me too. Zachary Wheeler: Alright, well then I'll take us home. ⁓ So check us out on our YouTube channel. It's Popcorn and Pal's ⁓ And then we have a Gmail ⁓ if you want email us and give us movie recommendations ⁓ or tell us terrible we are. 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