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- 0:25Hello, and welcome to Kentucky Smiles on Talking FACS, a podcast collaboration
- 0:30between the University of Kentucky College of Dentistry and Family and Consumer Sciences Extension.
- 0:36I'm your host, Mindy McCulley, Extension Specialist for Instructional Support
- 0:41with Family and Consumer Sciences Extension.
- 0:44Nearly 60% of opioids prescribed for 42% of opioid prescriptions given to adolescents
- 0:52and young adults are prescribed by dentists.
- 0:56My guest today, Dr. Marcia Rojas Ramirez with the UK College of Dentistry,
- 1:02is here to share with us about ADOPT, Alternatives to Dental Opioid Prescribing
- 1:09After Tooth Extraction.
- 1:11Welcome, Dr. Rojas Ramirez.
- 1:14Hello, Mindy. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to join your podcast today.
- 1:19Well, we are excited to learn about ADOPT and the goals of ADOPT's study. So what are they?
- 1:27So ADOPT is a very interesting study that involves the collaboration of multiple
- 1:33colleges in the University of Kentucky, where the College of Dentistry,
- 1:39the College of Pharmacy, Medicine, and Public Health get together to find possibilities and
- 1:46opportunities to reduce the number of opiate prescriptions that go out to the
- 1:52community to specifically to adolescents and young adults,
- 1:57meaning this population between the ages of 12 and 25,
- 2:02that get a tooth extracted.
- 2:05So it would be the goals of this study is to minimize the number of prescriptions
- 2:11that are given, dental prescriptions that are given to this specific population.
- 2:16Why is the concern of prescribing opioids to this population so troubling?
- 2:21So adolescents and young adults are a population that is specifically high risk
- 2:28of opioid misuse or abuse. use.
- 2:31This is a specific period where the brain is still in development,
- 2:37where it's really receptive to the reward centers,
- 2:42to euphoria, sensations, and this is a specific effect of opioid substances.
- 2:52So, opioid use disorder can develop at any time, regardless of race, age,
- 2:59gender, and these This group is in a study that we conducted a few years ago
- 3:06where we looked at the dental lobby prescriptions that were given by dentists
- 3:13and we look at the specifics of the population that were receiving these medications.
- 3:18We identified that compared to other age groups, adolescents and young adults
- 3:24were the group that were receiving the highest doses of these medications for the longest duration.
- 3:32Okay. So not only they are at high risk, are at very high risk for misuse,
- 3:38but they're also the ones receiving the majority of these medications.
- 3:43So are there other medications that can be prescribed that will have the same
- 3:48benefit but aren't at high risk of becoming misused?
- 3:53Yes, yes. Yes. So the first line of treatment after surgical procedure or for
- 4:01the management of acute pain would be the use of non-opioid analgesics.
- 4:08Okay. And non-opioid analgesics would involve NSAID medications like your ibuprofen
- 4:14or in combination alone or in combination with medications such as Tylenol or acetaminophen.
- 4:24So when given together, what we have learned is that they create an increase
- 4:30in the analgesic effect.
- 4:33There was this very interesting study that was published back in 2020 where
- 4:39they follow individuals that received a tooth extraction and a group of them
- 4:44received opioids and a group of them received non-opioids analgesics.
- 4:49And what we have learned from this study and from many other research is that,
- 4:55Those individuals who received opioids had the worst pain outcomes.
- 5:00So it was not necessarily the group
- 5:03that received or that obtained more analgesia or better pain control.
- 5:09So opioid medications are not linked to better pain management,
- 5:12produce higher side effects, and on top of everything, have a much higher incidence
- 5:17or a potential for misuse and abuse of these substances. Okay.
- 5:23So, why is this work so important for Kentuckians?
- 5:29So it is really important because Kentucky has been a population,
- 5:34has been a state that has been really affected by the opioid epidemic.
- 5:39And as you mentioned at the beginning, so many of the opioids that we prescribe are left unused.
- 5:46And it happens that unused medication is one of the first ways that individuals start misusing drugs.
- 5:56So this creates this diversion, and this diversion can come from a family member, from a provider.
- 6:02So there are different methods of getting access to these medications.
- 6:06So reducing the amount of medications that can be left unused at the community
- 6:12level, it's a method of reducing the potential of having more individuals get
- 6:19access to these substances.
- 6:21That makes really good sense. If we don't prescribe them to begin with,
- 6:25then they're not going to be left over.
- 6:28Exactly. Exactly. So what is your specific role in regards to this study?
- 6:34So this study has what we call two principal investigators.
- 6:38The main principal investigator is in the College of Pharmacy,
- 6:43and I am the other principal investigator at the College of Dentistry.
- 6:48So between the two of us, we are in charge of running this study,
- 6:53making sure that all the procedures are developed, that we enroll the clinics,
- 6:59that we keep up and monitoring the trial as it advances.
- 7:02This is a four-year clinical trial where we are engaging not only academic institutions,
- 7:10but also community dental practices.
- 7:14The rationale behind this is that when we looked at the number of opiate prescriptions
- 7:20that we had in the state of Kentucky over like a seven-year period,
- 7:25we realized that the academic prescriptions or prescriptions that come from
- 7:30dentists that work in academic settings,
- 7:32just a very small number of those prescriptions.
- 7:37So in order to be able to make an impact and really reduce the amount of opioids
- 7:43that prescription, the opioid medications that can be out in the community as leftover medication,
- 7:49we really need to engage the community settings, which are where the majority
- 7:54of these medications are being prescribed.
- 7:58So, this trial is engaging academic settings and then community settings,
- 8:05and we're following these clinics over a period of four years.
- 8:10And our goal is that after the intervention, right, and I can discuss with you
- 8:17in a little more detail what that will look like.
- 8:19But the goal would be that after this intervention is given to these different
- 8:24practices, we would be able to notice a reduction in these prescriptions.
- 8:30And our role is to make sure that the trial is conducted the way we said that
- 8:36was going to be conducted and that we are monitoring the trial,
- 8:40monitoring any adverse events,
- 8:42monitoring monitoring the outcomes so we can provide good evidence-based conclusions
- 8:48at the end of these trials.
- 8:50So you said that this is a four-year study. What year are you in now?
- 8:54We are starting here our first year. We have four more years to go.
- 9:00Okay. We just activated the study back in April.
- 9:04Okay. So it's brand new. And what does the intervention look like?
- 9:09This study has three different types of interventions that will be applied at
- 9:14different levels. So the main intervention is what we call an academic detailing intervention.
- 9:22And this intervention is targeted to the dental providers.
- 9:26And it would be a one-one interaction between the dental provider and trained
- 9:32pharmacist, where they will go over the guidelines for acute pain management.
- 9:39What are is basically a conversation so that we can understand their prescribing
- 9:44circumstances, when and how they make a decision to prescribe.
- 9:49Are there any data driven information that we can provide?
- 9:54So then some of those scenarios where making the decision is difficult,
- 9:58that can expedite or that can give them an evidence based statement so they
- 10:04can reduce or avoid that particular prescription.
- 10:08And basically provide a guidance. Right.
- 10:12For the providers during these settings.
- 10:16The next part of this intervention is targeting to the facilitating the non-opioids
- 10:24are the first line of treatment.
- 10:26And in order to do that, we're providing these clinics what we call blister
- 10:31packs of non-opioid analgesics.
- 10:34So, So this would be pre-packed medication that has the dose of the non-opioid
- 10:41so they can take it at specific times throughout the day for a course of a maximum seven days.
- 10:47So when they leave the practice, they don't need to go to the pharmacy and get
- 10:52this non-opioid analgesia. They just have it there. It's handy.
- 10:56It's easy to use. And then it helps them to keep track of, well,
- 11:00did I take it three hours ago or not? They can visually keep track of their medication intake.
- 11:08And the last piece of this intervention is a
- 11:12tailored patient post-extraction instructions where the patients will be able
- 11:19to take this flyer that has information about non-pharmacological or a set of
- 11:27instructions that don't involve the intake of medications, right?
- 11:30Of things that they can do to control the pain that are not medication related.
- 11:35And then it also has information, well, if you are going to take your medications,
- 11:40take them as prescribed.
- 11:42And it provides additional information about the risks of certain medications,
- 11:48as well as information of how to dispose some of these unused medications.
- 11:53So, you know, it's not that we are saying that.
- 11:57There is no need for opiate prescription. There will be certain cases where
- 12:02an opiate prescription may assist in controlling the pain,
- 12:06but this intervention provides the resources so the provider can train and instruct
- 12:13the patient on what would be some of the, how to dispose the medication,
- 12:19what are some of the risks that they can assess before they give a prescription medication.
- 12:25So then if that occurs, we reduce the risks of having misuse with that link
- 12:33to that specific prescription.
- 12:35I'm guessing that these interventions will help to alleviate some of the barriers
- 12:43that providers might encounter to not going this route.
- 12:47You know, it might be easier to write a script for an opioid if they didn't
- 12:54have all of these interventions in place already.
- 12:57Yes, yes. So the goal is that we will learn a little bit of what is that thought
- 13:02process and what are some of the most common barriers.
- 13:04So then these could be later on presented to the more general dental population
- 13:11tackling those specific circumstances that they bring up as well. And.
- 13:17It helps the provider to have a conversation with an individual that is trained
- 13:24on how to overcome some of those barriers.
- 13:28So then the brainstorming about how to solve a specific circumstance or how
- 13:34to deal with a patient that is really pushing towards a prescription to get
- 13:40a prescription of opioids,
- 13:41It's how to navigate some of those difficult situations that happen on a regular
- 13:47basis in a dental setting.
- 13:50So one of the important things after or when you're going for a tooth extraction
- 13:55is to be able to adjust expectations, right?
- 13:59So this would be an invasive procedure, whether it's going to be one tooth or
- 14:04two or three or four or more teeth that are coming out. Now,
- 14:08you know, there is some discomfort to be extant after this procedure.
- 14:13So being able to adjust what your pain expectations would be also sets an environment
- 14:19of saying, well, you know, I'm having some discomfort, but it's not enough to
- 14:24need to take way more medication.
- 14:27And it promotes also some self-care and utilization of non-pharmacological options
- 14:35like ice in the place, you know, in the face where the procedure was done, soft diet.
- 14:42Things of that sort that will help and promote the healing.
- 14:46And then the utilization only of the Tylenol and ibuprofen that together enhance
- 14:52that pain control after a procedure like that.
- 14:57And also to know that every day, you know, the goal would be that every day
- 15:01you feel a little better.
- 15:03So then after those Those three days when the inflammation and the pain peak,
- 15:07you should start noticing a significant reduction in your pain with the very
- 15:14basic first line pain management options.
- 15:19And if that is not the case and you are noticing that your pain either stays
- 15:23the same or is increasing, well, then that is a time where it's important to
- 15:28call your dentist again and say, well, this pain is not getting any better.
- 15:32Can you please get me in to see if there is an infection or if there's any other
- 15:37factor that may be contributing to the pain and not necessarily the extraction itself?
- 15:44That is excellent advice. So don't plan to have your teeth extracted and then
- 15:49go on a big trip the next day.
- 15:51Yes. Enough some time to heal, right?
- 15:54Allow your body to heal and promote an environment where it can do that.
- 15:59Excellent. And my husband is opposed to any type of pain medication because
- 16:06he knows what it does to his body and how it affects him.
- 16:10And so knowing that, mixing that ibuprofen and the Tylenol together has a similar
- 16:20effect would be beneficial to him to know that,
- 16:23then maybe he would be be willing to go that route and know that he would get that same effect.
- 16:29So that would be beneficial information for someone like my husband. Yeah.
- 16:33So that is part of the information that is provided to the patient.
- 16:39So then it is part of that educational portion of this intervention of saying,
- 16:44well, you know, not only non-opioids tend to be more effective to manage your
- 16:50pain, but they also have,
- 16:51you know, they'll make you feel less sick in terms of the side effects.
- 16:57And in terms of how satisfied patients are after a procedure,
- 17:02tends to be that there's really not a lot of difference.
- 17:05Sometimes providers think, well, if I don't give this prescription,
- 17:09the patients may not like it or they may not feel that I'm not taking care of their pain.
- 17:14But that really, patients are equally satisfied. there are no difference in
- 17:20terms of how they perceive the procedure went.
- 17:23Right. And the fact that they have less side effects tend to be more of a pro
- 17:28for the non-opioid analgesics.
- 17:31I hope that this study turns out the way that it sounds like it really could.
- 17:36And it will be a win-win for Kentucky, and it will be a win-win for those who
- 17:41have to have tooth extractions or other surgeries. Well, thank you so much.
- 17:48We are looking for the same outcomes. We're working hard and very excited to
- 17:53be able to deliver our intervention to engage.
- 17:58We have the clinics that are participating, our sites that are very engaged,
- 18:03our sites that believe in the work that this intervention is aiming to do.
- 18:09We hope to be able to minimize the risk for our Kentucky youth and reduce the
- 18:16chances of more and more of our adolescents
- 18:20and young adults having the opportunity or having the, you know,
- 18:24the chance of misusing some of these substances.
- 18:28That all sounds fabulous. Thank you so much for your time and for visiting with me today.
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