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- 0:07Speaker 1: Under the Dogs.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Yeah, under the Dogs, very fam we're breaking the locks.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Funny you could they erase the shots they kind the
- 0:18Speaker 2: dogs under the docks.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Under the Dogs, Yeah, under.
- 0:23Speaker 3: The docks, Under the Dogs.
- 0:50Speaker 4: We're back under the docks today. Were looking into Am
- 0:55Speaker 4: I Racist? A twenty twenty four film directed by Justin
- 0:59Speaker 4: Folk narrated by Matt Walsh. Now, this film the reason
- 1:03Speaker 4: we're covering it. It's kind of a huge deal because
- 1:06Speaker 4: it's backed by the Daily Wire and anybody that knows
- 1:09Speaker 4: Matt Walsh knows that he did the What Is a Woman?
- 1:14Speaker 4: Which did pretty well and people kind of liked it
- 1:18Speaker 4: and it got into people's faces because it's going into
- 1:21Speaker 4: this dei in wokeism and you know, right now you
- 1:25Speaker 4: either are woke or you're against it, and it feeds
- 1:28Speaker 4: that narrative. And Daily Wire is a big platform, so
- 1:30Speaker 4: they've gotten around. This one is really easy to find,
- 1:33Speaker 4: Not like some of the other ones we've discussed. This
- 1:36Speaker 4: one you can find anywhere. As soon as you put
- 1:39Speaker 4: im Racist, it should pop up.
- 1:42Speaker 5: This one is also unique because it had a theatrical release,
- 1:46Speaker 5: Like you could actually go and see this movie depending
- 1:49Speaker 5: on what city you're in, but you could see it
- 1:51Speaker 5: at a mainstream local theater right alongside Avengers or X
- 1:55Speaker 5: Men or whatever the hell else was playing at the time,
- 1:57Speaker 5: so that kind of makes us stand apart. I think
- 2:00Speaker 5: this might be the first documentary of everything we've seen
- 2:04Speaker 5: so far that had a theatrical release, So this is
- 2:07Speaker 5: about as mainstream as we've gotten so far, and it
- 2:10Speaker 5: kind of does summarize the first two episodes that we
- 2:13Speaker 5: did in the series, all for Floyd and the Trayvon
- 2:16Speaker 5: Martin Hoax. This one kind of puts a nice little
- 2:19Speaker 5: bow on that, and it also ends it with some
- 2:21Speaker 5: softer edges instead of just like getting eve in more
- 2:25Speaker 5: sort of like inflammatory.
- 2:28Speaker 4: And the basic the basic premise of this is are
- 2:32Speaker 4: people just racist or are they more prejudiced? Is this
- 2:35Speaker 4: a systematic thing? They kind of explore that avenue of it.
- 2:41Speaker 5: Of course, more specifically, I would almost say that the
- 2:45Speaker 5: movie has an unofficial subtitle that I'm submitting here that's
- 2:49Speaker 5: not from Mott Waalasher Daily Wire, but that it's am
- 2:54Speaker 5: I racist and in parentheses as a white guy. Like
- 2:57Speaker 5: it's it's not really for just anyone to be considering
- 3:00Speaker 5: this question. It's really focused on our white people in particular,
- 3:05Speaker 5: racist against black people full stop.
- 3:15Speaker 4: So plotting the course Matt Walsh, he does some funny stuff.
- 3:22Speaker 4: It becomes a DEI expert in diversity. He actually really
- 3:28Speaker 4: paid the money to become certified, and I thought that
- 3:32Speaker 4: was hilarious. This film, to me, it's fun. I know,
- 3:37Speaker 4: not everybody will enjoy it. For me, I enjoyed it.
- 3:39Speaker 4: I laughed a lot, Like I thought it was really humorous,
- 3:43Speaker 4: like at times, you know, but telling the story of
- 3:47Speaker 4: like you said, specifically being a white Cish gender male,
- 3:54Speaker 4: that this is speaking to you, like this film is
- 3:56Speaker 4: directed towards whatever that is.
- 4:00Speaker 5: And I also almost want to point out early on
- 4:04Speaker 5: that we're calling this a documentary, but I don't know
- 4:08Speaker 5: if it makes any specific key claims it really it's
- 4:11Speaker 5: just more of pokes and prods and makes fun of
- 4:15Speaker 5: the current you know, the people that would require you
- 4:19Speaker 5: to have a DEI license, Like that's sort of the
- 4:21Speaker 5: reason he gets a DEI certification, a little card, and
- 4:24Speaker 5: he starts showing it off to anyone that he can
- 4:26Speaker 5: in any context like, oh, by the way, I'm DEI certified.
- 4:30Speaker 5: That's the whole premise of the movie, is that he's
- 4:33Speaker 5: meeting up with people that have the exact opposite view
- 4:38Speaker 5: that Matt Walsh does and the Daily Wire typically do.
- 4:41Speaker 5: But he's meeting with the experts and then sort of
- 4:44Speaker 5: asking the dumbest questions, but they're like they're obvious questions,
- 4:48Speaker 5: like the questions that usually are being asked rhetorically. Matt
- 4:52Speaker 5: Walsh asks the people that are writing books about DEI
- 4:55Speaker 5: and why you should consider yourself racist. He's asking them
- 4:58Speaker 5: these rhetorical questions on camera in a very like like
- 5:02Speaker 5: formal sit down interview way. He's hiring them in some
- 5:05Speaker 5: cases even tells you exactly how much they charge for
- 5:08Speaker 5: some of their seminars in order to go to them.
- 5:10Speaker 5: So it's really hard, though, to go down a list
- 5:14Speaker 5: of specific claims that he's making, because he does a
- 5:17Speaker 5: great job at This movie is about him asking this question,
- 5:20Speaker 5: am I racist? And then asking a whole bunch of
- 5:23Speaker 5: other questions like what would this be racist? Does this
- 5:25Speaker 5: make me racist? Just over and over again to a
- 5:28Speaker 5: whole bunch of different people.
- 5:29Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say.
- 5:30Speaker 4: Instead of claims, it was more of exposing, maybe exposing
- 5:35Speaker 4: and putting a light onto some of these things that
- 5:38Speaker 4: some people may not know about that like you know,
- 5:40Speaker 4: for instance, he went to a white grief seminar where
- 5:44Speaker 4: he paid thirty grand to be a part of it,
- 5:47Speaker 4: and which is hilarious, Like, there's some really funny parts
- 5:50Speaker 4: in him where he's like interjecting in there. They're asking
- 5:55Speaker 4: what can he do better and what's his promise to
- 5:58Speaker 4: the black community, And the scene that really got me
- 6:01Speaker 4: is he's.
- 6:02Speaker 6: This isn't still in the beginning of the movie.
- 6:03Speaker 4: He's dressed normal as Matt Walsh, but he calls himself
- 6:06Speaker 4: Steve and as he's talking, he's like, yeah, my promise
- 6:11Speaker 4: to the black communities, I'm gonna do better, and for
- 6:13Speaker 4: the world, I'm gonna do better and better.
- 6:15Speaker 6: I'm gonna be better.
- 6:15Speaker 4: And then he stops and the next person starts to
- 6:18Speaker 4: talk and he's like, wait, I think I remember something else,
- 6:21Speaker 4: and then they're like, well, hold on, we gotta wait.
- 6:23Speaker 6: Turns he's like, we're gonna.
- 6:23Speaker 4: Come back around, and they're like, well, we don't come
- 6:26Speaker 4: back around, and he's like, well, I just don't want
- 6:27Speaker 4: him to say my promise that I'm about to say,
- 6:30Speaker 4: and then the girl proceeds to say so he's like,
- 6:32Speaker 4: that's what I was gonna say, and like, to me,
- 6:34Speaker 4: there's a lot of comic relief in it. For people
- 6:38Speaker 4: that are either in the middle or like that are
- 6:41Speaker 4: leaned that way will find it humorous. Now, if you
- 6:44Speaker 4: lean the other way, you probably think it's despicable and
- 6:48Speaker 4: he's just mockery making a mockery of them. But from
- 6:51Speaker 4: an unbiased state, me being in the middle, I thought
- 6:54Speaker 4: it was pretty funny.
- 6:56Speaker 5: I think maybe a better way to do the claims
- 6:59Speaker 5: for this movie is that they allow what the popular
- 7:03Speaker 5: claims being pushed in mainstream media. He allows those claims
- 7:07Speaker 5: to come to the forefront, and he in some cases
- 7:10Speaker 5: he even allows the people that wrote those books that
- 7:12Speaker 5: get cited by corporations that then get mentioned on news.
- 7:15Speaker 5: He goes directly to them, lets them make the claim,
- 7:18Speaker 5: and then he just throws these rhetorical questions at them.
- 7:22Speaker 5: So a lot of those claims, again, they just kind
- 7:24Speaker 5: of amount to privilege and DEI and allocational resources. They
- 7:30Speaker 5: don't go into any sort of reparations talk, so if
- 7:34Speaker 5: you're expecting it to go down that political rabbit hole,
- 7:37Speaker 5: it doesn't even come up once. And then there's also
- 7:40Speaker 5: a few other things that usually in this space would
- 7:44Speaker 5: come up, but he kind of remains laser focused on
- 7:46Speaker 5: just the experts that he's able to talk to and
- 7:49Speaker 5: like you said, sometimes antagonizes them.
- 7:53Speaker 4: Which makes for a good theatrical film, but like you said,
- 7:57Speaker 4: not necessarily a documentary because it's not revealing it in
- 8:00Speaker 4: information that we don't know that's been out there. But
- 8:05Speaker 4: it is nice to see, you know, something funny from
- 8:08Speaker 4: time to time. This was good from us decompressing from
- 8:11Speaker 4: the heavy stuff that we were kind of seeing the
- 8:13Speaker 4: last few weeks. This was really a chill one where
- 8:16Speaker 4: you could actually just pop up, put your legs up
- 8:19Speaker 4: and need some popcorn and laugh and have a good time.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:23Speaker 5: No aerial drone footage of riots in this one.
- 8:33Speaker 6: So the Hidden Treasures. So for me, the Hidden Treasures was.
- 8:38Speaker 4: Just like actually going and paying the money to talk
- 8:43Speaker 4: to these people like he does the Dinner the White
- 8:47Speaker 4: Grief seminar, he talks to Robin DiAngelo, if you guys
- 8:51Speaker 4: don't know who that is, the White Fragility pretty much
- 8:54Speaker 4: the patriarch of this whole white privileged movement, and she
- 9:00Speaker 4: kind of sets the baseline of what everybody was talking
- 9:04Speaker 4: and he talking about in the film because they initiated
- 9:08Speaker 4: by after the White Grief. You know, he's like, well,
- 9:10Speaker 4: I got to put in the work, and he goes
- 9:12Speaker 4: to a bookstore that where he's explained like, hey start
- 9:16Speaker 4: here with white fragility, and he starts reading the book.
- 9:19Speaker 6: So the focal point.
- 9:20Speaker 4: Is Robin DiAngelo, who is kind of like one of
- 9:24Speaker 4: the pioneers quote unquote for this white privilege movement.
- 9:30Speaker 5: And that's my highlight of this entire movie is that
- 9:34Speaker 5: when he goes and talks to Robin DiAngelo at the
- 9:37Speaker 5: end of this he's got, of course, because this is
- 9:40Speaker 5: the stick he's got, like a black camera guy that
- 9:43Speaker 5: follows him everywhere. So after like this initial interview, he's
- 9:48Speaker 5: kind of acting as if they're off camera or something,
- 9:51Speaker 5: and he's talking to her and he's like, oh, yeah,
- 9:53Speaker 5: that's why, you know the way that I want to
- 9:55Speaker 5: show my appreciation. I see a black guy in the room, sir,
- 9:59Speaker 5: I just want to give you some money right now?
- 10:01Speaker 5: Can I just give you twenty dollars and just take
- 10:03Speaker 5: this on behalf of me and how sorry that I am,
- 10:06Speaker 5: and this is me sharing my resources with you. But
- 10:08Speaker 5: he's doing this obviously very sarcastic, but it's done in
- 10:13Speaker 5: a subtle enough way that Robin DiAngelo is by all
- 10:17Speaker 5: appearances not hip to the fact that she's kind of
- 10:20Speaker 5: being trolled here. So as he's doing this, she's even
- 10:24Speaker 5: verbalizes like that was weird, and he's kind of like
- 10:27Speaker 5: why why is that weird? Isn't being uncomfortable part of
- 10:31Speaker 5: the doing the work? Like we should make ourselves uncomfortable
- 10:35Speaker 5: and it's not about our comfort, it's about this black
- 10:37Speaker 5: guy's comfort, right, are you comfortable? And the guy's like,
- 10:40Speaker 5: if you want to give me money, I'll take money.
- 10:42Speaker 5: So they start just kind of like staring at Robin,
- 10:46Speaker 5: and then eventually Robin's like, do you want me to
- 10:49Speaker 5: give you money? And then she writes him a check
- 10:51Speaker 5: or she goes and gets her pocketbook and like gives
- 10:53Speaker 5: him some money as well. It is incredibly hard to watch.
- 10:57Speaker 5: I got secondhand embarrassment watching this, but it was by
- 11:02Speaker 5: far the crowning jewel of this just kind of showing
- 11:05Speaker 5: if you were to take some of the claims to
- 11:07Speaker 5: their most extreme logical conclusions, that it does put you
- 11:12Speaker 5: in these like weird Kofka esque sort of situations that
- 11:16Speaker 5: in retrospect, I would love to know what Robins thought
- 11:19Speaker 5: of this movie when she saw herself in it. But
- 11:21Speaker 5: that that was by far the hidden Treasure and then
- 11:25Speaker 5: the other main pros here is I think that so
- 11:28Speaker 5: far this movie has the best production quality by a mile,
- 11:33Speaker 5: even way more than the Trayvon Martin Hoax, which was
- 11:37Speaker 5: only the best one up until its point, but it
- 11:39Speaker 5: was still like a one man show. This one's got
- 11:42Speaker 5: the full force of the Daily Wire behind it, which
- 11:45Speaker 5: kind of goes the show that it was put into theaters.
- 11:48Speaker 5: I don't think Joe Gilbert's documentaries would have made it
- 11:51Speaker 5: to a full, you know, theatrical release. This one gets
- 11:55Speaker 5: the treatment in order to do that.
- 11:58Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think some of the overboard moments is
- 12:01Speaker 4: some of the production value, Like some of the scenes
- 12:03Speaker 4: are a little cheesy, like at the end for me,
- 12:05Speaker 4: like where they're just you know, he's getting going back
- 12:08Speaker 4: to the scene where he's pouring the coffee, because it
- 12:10Speaker 4: starts off where he's getting coffee and he's like, how
- 12:13Speaker 4: do you want it? And she's he's like black, and
- 12:16Speaker 4: he's like, that's how I like it. And that's where
- 12:18Speaker 4: he starts questioning himself because he's playing this role, which
- 12:21Speaker 4: I understand because it's the atric you know, for the theaters,
- 12:25Speaker 4: but a little bit of it was a little bit
- 12:27Speaker 4: much for a documentary, But I don't know if it's
- 12:29Speaker 4: necessary classified as a documentary. I think it might be,
- 12:32Speaker 4: but it's not a traditional documentary. It's more of a
- 12:36Speaker 4: mockumentary and political satire if anything.
- 12:39Speaker 6: But it was still very enjoyable for me.
- 12:43Speaker 5: Yeah. The whole narrative of this movie is that he
- 12:45Speaker 5: goes to a diner and his waitress is black, and
- 12:49Speaker 5: she asks him how he likes his coffee, and then
- 12:51Speaker 5: it shows this internal dialogue where he wants to say black,
- 12:55Speaker 5: but then he's like it, will it be weird that
- 12:58Speaker 5: I'm saying I want black coffee to this black waitress?
- 13:01Speaker 5: Is she going to be offended? And then he just
- 13:03Speaker 5: says the word black and she's like okay and writes
- 13:05Speaker 5: down and walks like it was not an issue. But
- 13:07Speaker 5: that was the whole premise of this idea. That was
- 13:10Speaker 5: where the seed was planted in Matt Walsh's head was
- 13:14Speaker 5: when he went to order black coffee from a black waitress.
- 13:17Speaker 5: Thus you get the whole rest of the movie. The
- 13:19Speaker 5: main con is for me, it's that he becomes increasingly
- 13:24Speaker 5: antagonistic in this like it comes across in some cases
- 13:28Speaker 5: like a really cheesy Daily Wire version of pranked, and
- 13:32Speaker 5: instead of Ashton Kutcher, you get you Know Walsh. And
- 13:35Speaker 5: one of the things that he does, for example, is
- 13:38Speaker 5: in one of those early circles where everyone's talking about,
- 13:42Speaker 5: you know, their white privilege or whatever, he keeps interrupting
- 13:46Speaker 5: to the point where that the lady says, Hey, if
- 13:48Speaker 5: you interrupt again, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
- 13:50Speaker 5: And he knows that he's going over the line. Everyone
- 13:54Speaker 5: in the room knows that he's going over the line,
- 13:56Speaker 5: to the point where they have a crying room, which
- 14:00Speaker 5: it's kind of it's kind of funny to even mention that,
- 14:03Speaker 5: but yeah, this convention that he's at, they have a
- 14:05Speaker 5: room down the hall that if you feel like you
- 14:07Speaker 5: have to cry, you leave the meeting and you go
- 14:10Speaker 5: in this room and you cry. So he makes use
- 14:12Speaker 5: of this cry room, which I don't know how often
- 14:15Speaker 5: people have to use that, but and he makes a
- 14:18Speaker 5: very big deal about it. When he comes back in,
- 14:20Speaker 5: they've all looked his name up online and they know
- 14:22Speaker 5: that he's this guy from the Daily Wire, and that's
- 14:24Speaker 5: what leads to him putting on this new persona where
- 14:27Speaker 5: he literally just gets a man bun wig and that's
- 14:30Speaker 5: his whole entire new persona, and he puts on like
- 14:32Speaker 5: a sweater vest or something, and this kind of comes
- 14:35Speaker 5: to an absurd climax that at the end of the
- 14:39Speaker 5: movie he pays to be part of this group where
- 14:43Speaker 5: these two black ladies will have dinner with you and
- 14:46Speaker 5: just talk about all the problems with racism in the country, essentially,
- 14:50Speaker 5: and it's only for white women. It's black women talking
- 14:54Speaker 5: to white women, and if you're not a white woman
- 14:56Speaker 5: that you're not even allowed to, I guess address these
- 14:59Speaker 5: two ladies. So he kind of plays an undercover waiter
- 15:04Speaker 5: so that he can be a fly on the wall,
- 15:06Speaker 5: and then he starts interjecting himself in these people's conversation
- 15:11Speaker 5: all the way to the point where he does slapstick comedy.
- 15:13Speaker 5: He's falling, he's dropping plates multiple times, he's like sitting
- 15:18Speaker 5: down at the table. He brings it so overboard. If
- 15:22Speaker 5: this were an episode of PUNKD, someone would be like,
- 15:25Speaker 5: am I getting punked right now? I'm I on candid camera.
- 15:27Speaker 5: And maybe they just have more decorum that they just
- 15:30Speaker 5: didn't bring that up, or maybe they just edit it
- 15:32Speaker 5: out of the movie. But I would just say that
- 15:35Speaker 5: if we're looking at this as if it were a
- 15:37Speaker 5: documentary or even a mockumentary, really it was more about
- 15:42Speaker 5: Walsh getting in his funny little one liners and his
- 15:45Speaker 5: slapstick comedy, and maybe less on presenting any new claims
- 15:51Speaker 5: or new information. This is gonna tell you maybe what
- 15:53Speaker 5: you already know, although I would say that even if
- 15:56Speaker 5: you hate Daily Wire, there might be a reason to
- 15:59Speaker 5: still watch that you might still laugh at some of
- 16:01Speaker 5: the stuff that happens.
- 16:03Speaker 4: Yeah, and one other thing I'd like to add is
- 16:05Speaker 4: I think that since you saw no new information, a
- 16:09Speaker 4: lot of the information is stuff that we've seen on
- 16:11Speaker 4: podcasts and tiktoks and social media feeds, poking fun of wocism.
- 16:15Speaker 6: That's pretty much what this is.
- 16:18Speaker 4: It's a you know, a conservative SNL like long sketch.
- 16:24Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
- 16:25Speaker 4: It's like an hour and forty minute sketch where they're
- 16:29Speaker 4: just stretching it as far as they can and they
- 16:31Speaker 4: built this character. Or it's like an SNL sketch turn movie,
- 16:35Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like Pat where it's like.
- 16:37Speaker 6: That one did that one really need a movie.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Like It's entertaining enough though to keep you through it
- 16:42Speaker 4: for me. I liked all of it until like towards
- 16:45Speaker 4: the end there was a couple. But yeah, that's what
- 16:47Speaker 4: I would give Mike Ripe is a little bit of
- 16:49Speaker 4: the recycled material as presented as if he's like, it's
- 16:53Speaker 4: our first time knowing that they have these dinners dinner
- 16:56Speaker 4: to race or white grief or any of these white fragility.
- 17:01Speaker 4: We kind of had it out there in the sphere.
- 17:04Speaker 4: It's just all kind of put together and here and
- 17:07Speaker 4: kind of expose it. But we've seen people expose this
- 17:09Speaker 4: before on YouTube channels and TikTok. So that's one of
- 17:13Speaker 4: the gripes I had with it. Take a deep dive
- 17:25Speaker 4: now for me, the one deep dive with pretty much
- 17:29Speaker 4: in this film is he's trying to go after racism
- 17:33Speaker 4: versus prejudice. Right, is it systematically formatted that a white
- 17:39Speaker 4: this straight male or however you say it, that the
- 17:43Speaker 4: systems created for him, or is it that there's just
- 17:48Speaker 4: prejudice within individuals? And I think that's a philosophy, a philosophical.
- 17:55Speaker 6: Way of going about it.
- 17:57Speaker 4: Whether they try to stretch the whole film and they
- 17:59Speaker 4: kind of say it at the end like hey, you know,
- 18:01Speaker 4: we all like you know, there's a few times where
- 18:03Speaker 4: he talks about the guys are like, you know, we
- 18:05Speaker 4: all bleed the same.
- 18:06Speaker 6: You know, when they go to that little.
- 18:07Speaker 4: Hic bar where they're talking to the one fellow Pat
- 18:11Speaker 4: who is hilarious because he's drunk a shit and he's
- 18:14Speaker 4: smoking a cigarette, he's.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Like, where, I'm a black friend, and he says all
- 18:19Speaker 5: the things that you know usually come up as a joke,
- 18:22Speaker 5: the guy actually says it and he's not joking.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not at all. And if you see him,
- 18:28Speaker 4: he's more than serious. And it kind of just strugs
- 18:31Speaker 4: on the heart strings of conservatives, I think, not heart
- 18:34Speaker 4: strings necessarily, but they're biased where they already think like, yeah,
- 18:37Speaker 4: you know, we're all the same.
- 18:39Speaker 6: So you're not getting any new material.
- 18:40Speaker 4: But it is to me the Deep Dive is really
- 18:44Speaker 4: on systematic racism verse prejudiced.
- 18:47Speaker 5: Well, I would say the Deep Dive might actually be
- 18:51Speaker 5: the question of the movie. Am I racist? Or is
- 18:54Speaker 5: Matt Walsh racist? So what do you think if you
- 18:58Speaker 5: had to answer that question after seeing the movie? Do
- 19:01Speaker 5: you think Mount Walsh's racist?
- 19:04Speaker 4: No, I think he's a little prejudiced maybe, but I
- 19:06Speaker 4: don't think he's racist.
- 19:09Speaker 5: Okay, that's a fair point. I don't know where I'm at.
- 19:12Speaker 5: I wanted to come out of the gate and be like, yeah,
- 19:14Speaker 5: of course he's racist. But if we're gonna split hairs
- 19:19Speaker 5: and separate racism from prejudice, he doesn't do anything outwardly
- 19:24Speaker 5: in the course of this movie. If you go in
- 19:26Speaker 5: not knowing who Matt Walsh is, you might want to
- 19:29Speaker 5: come out and be like, yeah, he's a racist, because
- 19:31Speaker 5: he was kind of making fun of all these people
- 19:33Speaker 5: that are, you know, quote unquote anti racist. He doesn't
- 19:37Speaker 5: do anything racist in the movie itself, so I can't
- 19:40Speaker 5: make the claim that he is in fact racist. But
- 19:42Speaker 5: there is a pretty interesting thing that he brings up.
- 19:45Speaker 5: For anyone that hasn't even contemplated this question, maybe it
- 19:48Speaker 5: just turns you off, maybe it offends you, maybe you
- 19:52Speaker 5: already think that you know the answer. But towards the
- 19:55Speaker 5: end he hosts after he gets his DEI certification, he
- 19:58Speaker 5: hosts his own little con where people have to pay
- 20:01Speaker 5: and go and figure out if they're racist. And he's
- 20:03Speaker 5: just trying to show you how easy this grift is
- 20:06Speaker 5: to pick up and perpetuate. But he also shows the
- 20:11Speaker 5: limits of certain people are willing to go to. For example,
- 20:15Speaker 5: he stands up. The first thing he says, in this
- 20:17Speaker 5: room full of people, they just paid in order to
- 20:19Speaker 5: like find out, you know, more about racism, And he goes,
- 20:22Speaker 5: I want everyone to point at who they think the
- 20:25Speaker 5: biggest racist of this room is right now, right, And
- 20:28Speaker 5: there's a couple people that are just like, this is
- 20:30Speaker 5: not for me. They just stand up and immediately leave
- 20:33Speaker 5: because clearly they they weren't there for that particular sort
- 20:37Speaker 5: of experience. And he twisted around and he points at himself,
- 20:40Speaker 5: and he's like, anyone that didn't immediately point at yourself,
- 20:43Speaker 5: you've got some work to do, right, Like it was
- 20:45Speaker 5: kind of funny the way that he went about this,
- 20:48Speaker 5: but he does show, like in a very practical sense,
- 20:52Speaker 5: and he also shows that he's getting invited onto national
- 20:56Speaker 5: television stations and promoting this course that he's doing all
- 21:00Speaker 5: the way to the end where that almost is this
- 21:02Speaker 5: little mini narrative of this rising star of a white
- 21:05Speaker 5: guy that's learning how to check his privilege and then
- 21:08Speaker 5: telling other white people how to do it, to where
- 21:11Speaker 5: he loses all faith in his own movement. And he
- 21:14Speaker 5: goes on this final television interview it's actually on like
- 21:17Speaker 5: a live, you know, daily broadcast somewhere as this like
- 21:22Speaker 5: fake persona that Matt Walsh came up with, and every
- 21:25Speaker 5: time they ask him questions, he's like, I don't even
- 21:27Speaker 5: know anymore. I think I am ory, I think this
- 21:29Speaker 5: is all pointless, and then this is just a big grift,
- 21:31Speaker 5: and he just like kind of like gets up and
- 21:33Speaker 5: walks off camera. So there's a narrative that he kind
- 21:36Speaker 5: of presents with that. But I would say that that
- 21:38Speaker 5: is the claim, is Matt Walsh racist? And in his course,
- 21:42Speaker 5: he kind of puts everyone on this sliding scale. It's
- 21:45Speaker 5: not a yes or no, it's a zero to ten,
- 21:48Speaker 5: and a whole bunch of people get up and they
- 21:49Speaker 5: put themselves at like two or three, where it's like, okay,
- 21:52Speaker 5: maybe a little bit. No one puts their name right
- 21:54Speaker 5: at zero. No one says I am zero percent racist.
- 21:58Speaker 5: And I think, out of anything, that might be the
- 22:01Speaker 5: most intriguing claim that's indirectly made by this movie is
- 22:05Speaker 5: that not a single person that I remember said that
- 22:09Speaker 5: they were completely zero percent racist. They all said I was,
- 22:12Speaker 5: I'm at least ten percent or at least twenty percent.
- 22:15Speaker 5: So I don't know If the question is framed in
- 22:17Speaker 5: that way, then yeah, Matt Walsh is racist, but maybe
- 22:21Speaker 5: it's only like ten or twenty percent.
- 22:23Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's on the lower scide, only twenty percent.
- 22:27Speaker 4: I think what holds up is the scam you know
- 22:31Speaker 4: that we already know about is a lot of these
- 22:33Speaker 4: anti racism studies and seminars are basically just that scams,
- 22:38Speaker 4: where you know, hey, pay thirty grand and then we're
- 22:41Speaker 4: gonna just tell you what a piece of shit you
- 22:43Speaker 4: are and how terrible you are and it's your fault
- 22:46Speaker 4: and there's nothing you can do about it because it
- 22:49Speaker 4: exposes that not only do they want to profit off
- 22:54Speaker 4: of you, but they give you zero solutions. They're like, well,
- 22:57Speaker 4: what if I do this? Because some of the questions
- 22:58Speaker 4: that he asked him in the film, he's even though
- 23:01Speaker 4: he's mocking them, he's pushing like, well.
- 23:03Speaker 6: How do we fix this?
- 23:05Speaker 4: Like that. At one point they ask him like you know,
- 23:06Speaker 4: you have the seeds of racism in you? And he's like, well,
- 23:09Speaker 4: how do I get him out? And they're like, well,
- 23:10Speaker 4: you don't you know? Ripples and waves. The historical and
- 23:23Speaker 4: cultural impact. I think the main impact this had culturally
- 23:29Speaker 4: was on the conservative crowds. A lot of Trump people
- 23:31Speaker 4: were loving this when it came out. It was his
- 23:34Speaker 4: pretty not a sequel, but kind of a sequel to
- 23:36Speaker 4: his What Is a Woman? It's his sequel of the
- 23:39Speaker 4: Dei and this whole woke agenda. And I think that
- 23:44Speaker 4: it was significant in dividing people more, you know what
- 23:48Speaker 4: I mean, because a lot of the people that are
- 23:51Speaker 4: divided more that are not on that side, they didn't
- 23:53Speaker 4: watch it, but just the fact that's seeing some of
- 23:56Speaker 4: the clips that came out and making a mockery and
- 23:58Speaker 4: I'm sure like people like Robin DiAngelo at some point
- 24:02Speaker 4: saw herself in there, and I'm assuming they had to
- 24:05Speaker 4: sign something right to be into this film, so I'm
- 24:09Speaker 4: sure they weren't too happy, and I think it made
- 24:11Speaker 4: them more mad and kind of split people. But it
- 24:15Speaker 4: was very, very viral for a while. When this movie
- 24:19Speaker 4: came out, it was everywhere.
- 24:22Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that the cultural relevance or the
- 24:25Speaker 5: impact that this makes in the long term is probably
- 24:30Speaker 5: more that it shows that a theatrical release of this
- 24:34Speaker 5: kind of movie is viable. I believe it was profitable.
- 24:37Speaker 5: It got enough reviews in pr campaigns associated with it
- 24:42Speaker 5: that it's probably gonna be the first of a few
- 24:45Speaker 5: in a series of this. This seems like the Daily
- 24:48Speaker 5: Wire dipping their toe into this other format of movie,
- 24:52Speaker 5: mockumentary angle where you are kind of just getting their
- 24:56Speaker 5: political bias wrapped up in a new package, right one
- 24:59Speaker 5: that you can laugh that a little bit, although it
- 25:02Speaker 5: also represents maybe a gap in the market, So I
- 25:05Speaker 5: would I would say there's strong evidence that maybe the
- 25:08Speaker 5: movie itself, the content of the movie isn't super relevant.
- 25:12Speaker 5: It's not going to change anybody's mind, it's not going
- 25:14Speaker 5: to start a movement anywhere. But the fact that they're
- 25:17Speaker 5: showing a commercially viable way of repackaging some of these
- 25:22Speaker 5: political beliefs that I believe is a huge sort of
- 25:27Speaker 5: change in the tides here.
- 25:29Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of switching it up on everybody, like maybe
- 25:32Speaker 4: we'll see like a Trayvon Hoax, but a little bit
- 25:34Speaker 4: with with even more humor if Joel I hope not, Yeah,
- 25:40Speaker 4: because Joel is Humor's a little bit out there. Time
- 25:45Speaker 4: for sink or swim what you got on this one?
- 25:48Speaker 4: Sink or swim for me?
- 25:52Speaker 5: This one is probably going to be a sink And
- 25:55Speaker 5: maybe it's it's my fault. I think I'm the one
- 25:58Speaker 5: that also suggested this one, thinking that it kind of
- 26:01Speaker 5: counted as a documentary. But after watching it again for
- 26:05Speaker 5: the purposes of this show, I realized maybe it's not
- 26:07Speaker 5: a traditional documentary in that way. It's about something that
- 26:12Speaker 5: they're telling the truth. It's almost like a reference movie
- 26:15Speaker 5: where they're not just making jokes. Everything they're doing in
- 26:19Speaker 5: here is just trying to paint something very absurd. It's
- 26:22Speaker 5: almost like watching an episode of The Daily Show or
- 26:25Speaker 5: the Colbert Rapport or you know, God help me, if
- 26:29Speaker 5: you've ever seen more than a few hours of the
- 26:32Speaker 5: Stephen Crowder Show, this is kind of like a Stephen
- 26:35Speaker 5: Crowder skit stretched out to be about an hour and
- 26:38Speaker 5: a half. So if you've ever seen a Stephen Crowder skit, ever,
- 26:42Speaker 5: you've already seen ami racist.
- 26:44Speaker 6: Right.
- 26:44Speaker 5: So I would say on the scale for documentaries, not
- 26:48Speaker 5: for how entertained I was, or not production quality, but
- 26:51Speaker 5: for a documentary, this one sinks. For me. It is
- 26:55Speaker 5: as shallow as you can get, yet is a sync.
- 26:58Speaker 4: Same sink for me. It was super entertaining. It made
- 27:02Speaker 4: me laugh, you know, I laugh at a lot of stuff.
- 27:05Speaker 4: I was able to watch it. It's not a terrible movie.
- 27:08Speaker 4: But it's not a documentary. It's not something that you're
- 27:12Speaker 4: gonna be like, oh, there's no insight recycled material. It's
- 27:17Speaker 4: a lot of little sketches within it, like when he
- 27:19Speaker 4: gets it, like you said, he gets his DEI certification
- 27:24Speaker 4: and then he's just walking around like, hey, you need
- 27:26Speaker 4: ADI guy because I'm a DEI guy, and like you know,
- 27:29Speaker 4: there's some funny moments, but it really doesn't add up.
- 27:33Speaker 4: And then it has mix of sketches mixed with mockery,
- 27:38Speaker 4: mixed with some overextended overproduced scenes, like especially at the end,
- 27:44Speaker 4: where you can tell like at first you're like, this
- 27:46Speaker 4: is not a real scene. These are paid actors. It's
- 27:48Speaker 4: not real enough, you know what I mean to be
- 27:50Speaker 4: a documentary. There's not really diving into anything. They're just
- 27:54Speaker 4: kind of poking fun at the woke people, which we
- 27:58Speaker 4: all do already. And I would suggests that there's way
- 28:01Speaker 4: funnier stuff on YouTube, TikTok, almost any podcast that talks
- 28:07Speaker 4: about this stuff than what's in the film.
- 28:09Speaker 6: It's cool, but eh, it seks.
- 28:14Speaker 5: If your parents are slightly racist, then they'll probably love
- 28:18Speaker 5: this movie. That's kind of a weird way to look
- 28:21Speaker 5: at it. But yeah, Boomer humor for sure.
- 28:34Speaker 4: All right, that does it for us, Set under the Docks,
- 28:37Speaker 4: But look out for the next three Conspiracy of Silence, America,
- 28:42Speaker 4: Freedom to Fascism, and a Noble Eye. We're gonna keep
- 28:45Speaker 4: continuing this trend of kind of connecting these documentaries that
- 28:50Speaker 4: kind of fit together, so it's a more of a
- 28:53Speaker 4: story outline for you guys.
- 28:56Speaker 5: And I feel that these first nine are a decent
- 29:01Speaker 5: representation of conspiracy theory. We haven't watched every single conspiracy
- 29:05Speaker 5: documentary out there, but we've given a good little sampling.
- 29:08Speaker 5: So maybe after these next three we'll get into more
- 29:11Speaker 5: mainstream ones and more like niche topics. But yeah, look
- 29:14Speaker 5: out for these next three because I do think all
- 29:17Speaker 5: three of them are incredibly important for you to check out.
- 29:21Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think this is the the next
- 29:24Speaker 4: uh set of the foundation. We have the pillars. Now
- 29:27Speaker 4: we're kind of putting up the drywall. Alright, tune in
- 29:30Speaker 4: the next one, guys, Peace.
- 29:39Speaker 1: The Dukes, Yeah, the Ducks.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Looks money, the Ducks, money the Ducks.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Mondon the Ducks. One of the dogs