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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and the NBA, Jazz hosting T'Wolves tonight, All Star starters, Jimmy Butler out for the season + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: The latest all that Utah Jazz with former Jazz assistant
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Speaker 1: coach Gordy Chiasa.
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Speaker 2: He's forgotten more about the NBA than any of us
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Speaker 2: will ever know. Let's not get crazy. Come for the
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Speaker 2: hoops talk. Stay for his list of the day A
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Speaker 2: list today. Here's OC with.
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Speaker 1: Basketball Shaban Gordy Chiasa on the Shot O'Connell Show. Sean
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Speaker 1: O'Connell Show continues here on ESPN seven hundred ninety TWINFM.
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Speaker 1: Gordy Chiasa, our resident NBA insider joins us.
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Speaker 2: Gordy, welcome, How are you, Sean?
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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, but Holmes as good as I you
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Speaker 3: last night? Also, how about it?
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Speaker 2: We talked about it a lot, Gordy.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is a team that pulled off the
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Speaker 1: greatest turnaround from a program standpoint in the history of
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Speaker 1: college sports. They cap it off with the national championship
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Speaker 1: last night, And I mean, is it proof of concept?
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Speaker 1: Is it proof of like the changing of the guard
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Speaker 1: in college football? Is this going to be a one
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Speaker 1: season outlier?
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Speaker 2: In your mind?
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be more just parody because
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Speaker 3: now because of the nil money. But all since I
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Speaker 3: forget about quarterback Mendoza did everything for his team. And
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Speaker 3: you know, whether it's the NFL or high major college football.
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Speaker 3: Just like also in basketball where the perimeter guys, if
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Speaker 3: those guys can make play, especially with their feet, everything changes.
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Speaker 3: So think about Mendoza what he did, undefeated, sixteen and
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Speaker 3: zero wins, the Heism Trophy went to Natural Championship and
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Speaker 3: a Storybooks season, So there's nothing like it. So good
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Speaker 3: for him and good for you. Tremendous coaching. I'm a
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Speaker 3: football fan. Tremendous coaching and just unbelievable as far as
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Speaker 3: team chemistry. Just watching from Afar, it was.
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Speaker 1: Great to see. We've been talking about it. We will
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Speaker 1: keep talking about it. Also, they're going to make a
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Speaker 1: movie out of this. We're trying to figure out who
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Speaker 1: should play Kurt Signety and Fernanda Mendoza. Who would play
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Speaker 1: Gordy Chias in the Gordy chiasa Hollywood movie.
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Speaker 3: Oh that's easy. Nicolas Cage, Yes, I love that idea,
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Speaker 3: jet I love them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nicholas Cages. Gordi Chiers would be the role of
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Speaker 1: a lifetime for him.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 3: That's dangers for him. God bless them for him. But
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Speaker 3: speaking of the role, of a lifetime Sean. Yesterday was
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Speaker 3: an MLK celebration day, and the San Antonio Victor Wembionda
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Speaker 3: helped celebrate that with an unbelievable sensational performance showing with
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Speaker 3: this guy his generational talent. HiT's a quick mass about it,
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Speaker 3: thirty three points, shooting from the field ten for eighteen
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Speaker 3: seven to twelve from three, ten rebounds, two blocks, and
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Speaker 3: two steals. And so the Jets had no answers for
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Speaker 3: him like many teams do, and he led dispersed as
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Speaker 3: far as just the overall fluidity of how they play offense,
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Speaker 3: how they popped the ball on perimeter, they shoot from
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Speaker 3: the field fifty six percent in the field and from
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Speaker 3: three point range, so that JAS had no chance of
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Speaker 3: guarding them just collectively.
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Speaker 1: When you have a guy who's capable of doing that,
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Speaker 1: of going off like we can see, you know he's
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Speaker 1: not the only guy.
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Speaker 2: But as from a coaching standpoint, what do you what
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Speaker 2: do you do? What do you say to your team?
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Speaker 1: Uh? Do you do? You just say? I mean, throw
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Speaker 1: two three guys at him? How do you make adjustments
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Speaker 1: to a night like that from a player like that?
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Speaker 3: It's only above So the first you want to do
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Speaker 3: is be with him, pick him up way above sue happens.
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Speaker 3: The question is that he's a big guy that plays outside.
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Speaker 3: So philosophically, do you play a big guy guarding him
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Speaker 3: on perimeter or do you go your best defender as
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Speaker 3: a midside guy. And then once he gets into the
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Speaker 3: scoring area. Now I know that's an interesting word to say,
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Speaker 3: We'll say on the twenty three foot radius, that's when
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Speaker 3: you double team them, try to pressure him up the floor,
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Speaker 3: you go small against him. He gets into the scoring area,
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Speaker 3: if he starts backing down on that facing the basket,
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Speaker 3: it's an automatically called the nearest sky trap. And then
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Speaker 3: off that you rotate. If he goes into the block rade,
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Speaker 3: now you you have to try to funct him and
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Speaker 3: get help site and pressure the passer. And the last
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Speaker 3: point about it, would you go zone? So usually speaking
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Speaker 3: teams that play zone, especially showing after a time out,
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Speaker 3: it takes away some of the opposite rhythm of the players,
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Speaker 3: I mean the opposing team. So I would go zone,
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Speaker 3: I elongate to catch, I would trap him, and then
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Speaker 3: I would pick him up early and be much physical
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Speaker 3: as I can, and then try to get him to
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Speaker 3: be a passer versus wife being a scorer.
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Speaker 2: We saw a little echo from the past.
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Speaker 1: Kevin Love at one point was the best rebounder in
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Speaker 1: the NBA. He had a big rebounding night, eleven boards
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Speaker 1: for him last night. I don't think we're going to
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Speaker 1: see a lot of this, but it was a bit
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Speaker 1: of a throwback.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. And his opposition he rebounds for two hands,
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Speaker 3: and so a lot of times guys for all the
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Speaker 3: wrong reasons, they try to cup rebound and that's when
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Speaker 3: I call finesse rebounding. But with Kevin Love, he's a
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Speaker 3: two handed rebound. He gets that ball and thills that
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Speaker 3: incredible rocket two hundred chest pass over his head as
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Speaker 3: far as igniting a jazz fast break. So Kevin Love,
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Speaker 3: at thirty eight years old, still has a game. And
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Speaker 3: so if I'm a playoff type team, I'm staring right
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Speaker 3: at him because his contract is absolutely team friendly. He
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Speaker 3: makes the NBA minimum for a ten year player, which
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Speaker 3: is basically a three three point two million dollars. I'm
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Speaker 3: looking at him to try to solidify my team. So,
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Speaker 3: for example, if I'm the Boss and Celtics, I'm looking
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Speaker 3: at Kevin Love to try to come to the team
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Speaker 3: to be Courte Minimum the backup center as the Celts
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Speaker 3: try to go deep in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: A team like that, is he the most likely Jazz
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Speaker 1: man to move before the deadline, either him.
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Speaker 3: Or use of Nurkice. Either or the Nurkice. He's played
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Speaker 3: very well, so not a question of he hasn't done
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Speaker 3: a good job for the Jazz. His contract again is friendly.
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Speaker 3: It's up this year, and so the Jazz philosophically, he
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Speaker 3: makes nineteen million dollars this year, so that the Jazz
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Speaker 3: keep him to back up Walker Kestler. We're assuming that
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Speaker 3: he comes back full force and the Jazz we sign
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Speaker 3: him as far as they're giving him. Technically they can
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Speaker 3: give him four year extension, all right, So you sign
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Speaker 3: him where he signed him for meeting use of Nurkice.
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Speaker 3: If you don't say, philosophically in the office, we're not
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Speaker 3: going to resign him, then try to move him on
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Speaker 3: to it and get more assets here because people like him. Again,
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Speaker 3: if I'm the Celtics, I'm standing right at him. Also,
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Speaker 3: they need big guys. So big guys in playoffs are
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Speaker 3: absolutely critical because they're able to control the boards and
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Speaker 3: be inside presence because the shot of choice in the
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Speaker 3: most playoff games is not the three. It's to drive
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Speaker 3: to the basket of a mid tier game, as far
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Speaker 3: as MIDI game. And that's when big commentation and to
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Speaker 3: force in a regular season bigs aren't as important when
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Speaker 3: employers they are. So those two guys people are staring at.
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Speaker 3: And the third guy would be Kyle Anderson. If you
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Speaker 3: need a versatile, you veteran player to play outside, inside, inside,
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Speaker 3: outside this shu opi in play.
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Speaker 1: We saw the other day the player votes for the
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Speaker 1: All Star Game and the jazz Men that received votes
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Speaker 1: and didn't.
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Speaker 2: Were you surprised at all to see?
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Speaker 1: I mean there were guys pretty far down the roster
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Speaker 1: getting at least a single player vote. Is that teammates
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Speaker 1: saying yeah, Cody Williams deserves to be there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how does that situation work?
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Speaker 1: When you get a vote or two you, as a player,
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Speaker 1: do you know who it's coming from?
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Speaker 3: No, you don't. Un Let the person tells you that
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Speaker 3: I voted for you. You know you're my man, You're
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Speaker 3: my dog, all right, So it could happen. And so
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Speaker 3: now the question is it's is it deserving or non deserving?
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Speaker 3: Or is it a bit of a hypocrisy that person
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Speaker 3: would get votes as far as that's probably not deserving.
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Speaker 3: Probably or I'm trying to paint the picture and a
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Speaker 3: broad stroke, and so that's the But the NBA wants
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Speaker 3: that the NBA wants the voting for fifty percent for
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Speaker 3: the starters by the fans, twenty five by the immediate
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Speaker 3: it's credential in the NBA, and twenty five by the
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Speaker 3: present players, and then the reserves. Of January thirtieth is
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Speaker 3: the last day. That's when the coaches vote for the reserves,
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Speaker 3: and that's when that's when the coaches can zero in
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Speaker 3: and who they think is deserving. As far as making
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Speaker 3: an All Star roster, it's important showing because you're selling
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Speaker 3: your own brand as far as globally and from a
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Speaker 3: sneaker's point of view, the sneaker war was is absolutely
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Speaker 3: critical as far as your advertisements. Who has the most
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Speaker 3: players wear their shoe in the All Star Game and
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Speaker 3: later on eventually it would be the Olympics.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Western Conference voting breakdown and that
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Speaker 1: formula that you just gave us uh Nikola Jokis Joker
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Speaker 1: got he was ranked number one in the player voting
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Speaker 1: is peers in the NBA put him number one from
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Speaker 1: in there from their votes, the fans and the media
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Speaker 1: have him number two. Now two is not disrespect. Two
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Speaker 1: is like your way way up there? But is there?
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Speaker 2: Why shouldn't there be.
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Speaker 1: A consensus if he if the the players think he's
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Speaker 1: the best player in the game, why do fans in
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Speaker 1: media not reflect.
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Speaker 3: That trained die That's the reason why. Because players have
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Speaker 3: to guard him in a game and they're really how
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Speaker 3: difficult it is. And also players are more in tuned
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Speaker 3: to play to the competition at they have a winning game.
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Speaker 3: The fans, justly speaking, respect guys like Jokic, but it's
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Speaker 3: not the wow factor as far as you know, a
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Speaker 3: highlight the films, as far as making dunks or rainbow
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Speaker 3: three point you know, off to the bathkeot as far
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Speaker 3: as splashing threes. And that's how it's viewed most of
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Speaker 3: the times by the fans. And it's not their fault.
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Speaker 3: That's why their fans they go for more the energy
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Speaker 3: and more the juice, the more white grabviting points the
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Speaker 3: Jokic is the the players know that he's the best
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Speaker 3: player in basketball, and you can see why he is
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Speaker 3: and A close second would be like Luca Donches type Shake,
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Speaker 3: Jies Alexander. Those guys are all in play also Giannis,
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Speaker 3: they're all top. You can debate that who's one, two, three,
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Speaker 3: or four. I'm saying that number one is by far Jokic.
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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Butler torn acl How devastating is this right
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Speaker 1: now for Golden State?
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Speaker 3: Immensely very much. Jimmy Butler has played tremendous for the
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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors. He is really besides Steph Curry. He's
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Speaker 3: the guy who makes it run as far as this
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Speaker 3: every intensity which he plays right, and he's played well.
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Speaker 3: And the Warriors have right now a four game winning
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Speaker 3: streak and they won twelve to the last sixteen and
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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler is a big part of that. Of what
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Speaker 3: he's done for the team. It's devastating. Besides the injury,
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Speaker 3: it's a really a franchise because now they really it's
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Speaker 3: highly unlikely that they're going to contend even even when
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Speaker 3: he was there, their rosters really is a lot of
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Speaker 3: different holes in it, and now by him not being there,
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Speaker 3: it affects everything. And the injury most times it takes
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Speaker 3: usually ten months to a year to heal. So we're
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Speaker 3: talking about him not playing if I'm AT's right, roughly
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Speaker 3: lichen around it off until next January fifteenth, So his
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Speaker 3: contract is this year and next year. And so now
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Speaker 3: they are the Warriors have a different calculust as they
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Speaker 3: head to the trading deadline. Did the question right now
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Speaker 3: is did they trade Johnson Caminga? But now suddenly they're
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Speaker 3: back and play as far as playing them more or
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Speaker 3: they've already committed to try to move them on, so
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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler as far as adding tech this year, when
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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler played this year, the winning percentage for the
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Speaker 3: Warriors is sixty point five percent. And the games that
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Speaker 3: didn't play this year because of injuries, they've only won
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Speaker 3: thirty three percent of their games. And so you could
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Speaker 3: see the impact as far as him being a trusted
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Speaker 3: sidekick to Steph Curry and to Draymond Green devastating.
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Speaker 2: Can they overcome it?
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Speaker 3: It's highly unlikely. It's not lack of effort, they don't
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Speaker 3: have enough. The West is absolutely loaded. So right now
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Speaker 3: the Warriors are twenty five and nineteen, they're they're the
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Speaker 3: eight seed. So number seven is the Suns, number nine
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Speaker 3: to trail grades, and number ten is the Clippers. The
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Speaker 3: Clippers are host team and basketball right now, they've won
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Speaker 3: six in a their healthy minus Kawhi Leonard, who's got
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Speaker 3: some niche sort ins storat of holding them out. So
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Speaker 3: the Warriors, in their world, if they get to the
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Speaker 3: playoffs because they overachieved the rest of the season, they're
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Speaker 3: staring up probably I'm assuming the eight seed. So now
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Speaker 3: they're playing eight versus one. They're playing right now the
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Speaker 3: saying champion would be the thunder them. So it's highly
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Speaker 3: unlikely that they would get past the first round. And
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Speaker 3: they do make the postseason. It's really a tribute to
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Speaker 3: the quote, this system, deep, Steve coach coaching and Steph
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Speaker 3: Curry's brilliance.
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Speaker 1: Since the last time we spoke Alex Jensen in the
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Speaker 1: Running Youth's got their first Big twelve victory of the year,
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Speaker 1: So his first Big twelve victory as head coach, and
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a milestone that you had to achieve
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Speaker 1: at some point, how important is it as you try
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Speaker 1: to you know, rebuild your program, do things in a
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Speaker 1: different way and potentially get back to the glory days
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Speaker 1: of Utah back basketball. To knock off that first conference
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Speaker 1: win in a very tough basketball conference, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Very much, very twelve. It's absolutely just very similar to
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Speaker 3: the restern conference of the NBA. It's loaded. So with
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Speaker 3: that said, impactful. So now the players know that they
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Speaker 3: in fact they lost to BYU and a really hard
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Speaker 3: fourth game at the Hunts and Center. Recently, also and ironically,
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Speaker 3: they played BYU. Besides playing Kansas State tonight in Manhattan, Kansas,
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Speaker 3: they played BYU Saturday at the Marriotte Center. So with
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Speaker 3: the first win over TCU, all it validates all the
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Speaker 3: hard work and all the little details that in previous
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Speaker 3: games maybe they only did some of them. In their
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Speaker 3: victory over TCU, they did most of them. And so
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Speaker 3: that helps the practice sessions being more upbeat and that
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Speaker 3: there's a more element of a conference as far as
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Speaker 3: them being confident that we can be the good team
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Speaker 3: at home and let's try to win tonight I mentioned
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Speaker 3: for against k State and definitely on Saturday versus really
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Speaker 3: our top flight team in BYU and b YU. They
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Speaker 3: brought they got punched in the face by Texas Tech
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Speaker 3: just quickly. As far as the local landscape, they're outscored
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Speaker 3: thirty to seven in that second half, and Texas Tech
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Speaker 3: got a lot of people that were going to be
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Speaker 3: in the draft and they did a good job on
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Speaker 3: AJ Debanser by really playing BILLI Vig Kobe called rolling
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Speaker 3: them up where he penetrated there was three or four
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Speaker 3: buys in front of him. He tried to kick it
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Speaker 3: out to the corners or to the three point line,
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Speaker 3: and those guys couldn't make consistent shots. But they were
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Speaker 3: more physical against BYU and that's where they're able to
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Speaker 3: do to win. Now b Way's point of view, it's
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Speaker 3: good because now they've played a quality team on the road.
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Speaker 3: That's what's hostile, and they got exposed what they had
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Speaker 3: to work on. So from a silver lining, it's important
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Speaker 3: to play against teams so that when you get to
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Speaker 3: the postseason that it happens already before you can see
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Speaker 3: what's going to how they're going to guard us and
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Speaker 3: hit the CounterPunch to it.
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Speaker 2: Forty what's your list today?
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Speaker 3: But let's today Sean All time NBA regular season Koreer
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Speaker 3: point leaders because this week Kevin Burant has edited through
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Speaker 3: his total and Lebron James has always keep adding to
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Speaker 3: his total. And you know, getting back quickly about the
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Speaker 3: All Star Game is the first time in twenty one
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Speaker 3: years Lebron James has not been selected as a starter.
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Speaker 3: But he will be selected absolutely as a reserve coming
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Speaker 3: to the game. And so we'll deserved Top ten of
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Speaker 3: all time Number ten. Shaquille O'Neill nineteen seasons he missed
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Speaker 3: twenty eight thousand, five ninety six points. Number nine, the
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Speaker 3: only lefties shown on this list. So I know you're
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Speaker 3: south board, you know you like this. He's playing for
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Speaker 3: the Clippers as we speak. James Harden seventeen seasons, twenty
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Speaker 3: eight thousand and seven oh three, Number eight on the
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Speaker 3: all time Greats. He broke so many records. He played
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Speaker 3: fourteen seasons World Chamberlain. He scored thirty one thousand, four nineteen.
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Speaker 3: But heyme and Michael Jordan tied for the most ever
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Speaker 3: Korea Wise points per game average. Will's averaged thirty point
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Speaker 3: one points per game in his career. Number seven, he
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Speaker 3: had a step back jump shot off the glass. Umberie
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Speaker 3: will A shooter from Germany. Dirck Nowitski played twenty one
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Speaker 3: season in the NBA thirty one thousand, five six oh tallies.
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Speaker 3: Number six Kevin Durant moving up every single literally year.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant's played in the NBA for eighteen seasons. Sixth
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Speaker 3: all time leading Korea scorer thirty one thousand, five sixty two.
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Speaker 3: Number five Michael Jordan played only fifteen season, so we'll
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Speaker 3: played fourteen and mj played fifteen. He a mess thirty
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Speaker 3: two thousand, two ninety two. I mentioned earlier. Him and
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Speaker 3: Wilter tied point one most ever points per game. Number
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Speaker 3: four Kobe Bryant Lakers twenty seasons, fourth all time thirty
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Speaker 3: three thousand, six forty three. But add to this, he's
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Speaker 3: second all time and most ever fourth quarter points scored. Kobe.
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Speaker 3: Number three, I deferred the coaches guy for sixteen years.
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Speaker 3: Carl Malone played in the NBA for nineteen seasons, where
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Speaker 3: he scored thirty six thousand, nine twenty eight. Would call
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Speaker 3: averaged twenty five points per game for his career with
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Speaker 3: the Jazz eighteen years and one year with the Lakers.
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Speaker 3: Number two all time leading scorer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar. He
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Speaker 3: played in the NBA for twenty seasons, thirty eight thousand,
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Speaker 3: three eighty seven and one little quick note, and that's
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Speaker 3: including only one three point shot made Kareem. He made
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Speaker 3: one three point shot where the ball came to him
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Speaker 3: with one second left, he flinged it up and went in.
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Speaker 3: It was thirty six thousand, thirty six thousand, nine twenty eight,
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Speaker 3: including only one three. The Nomer Ones score and history
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Speaker 3: of basketball is Lebron James. This is twenty third NBA season.
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Speaker 3: He has tallied forty two thousand, seven hundred and twenty
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Speaker 3: seven points, and he has the most ever fourth quarter
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Speaker 3: points in history of basketball, where he has scored nine thousand,
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Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty three points in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 3: which we know is clutch time slash money time. I
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Speaker 3: have a question for your Sean. Name this player. I'll
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Speaker 3: give you a hint about it. This player really thought
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Speaker 3: about scoring. But he's fifty third all time in the
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Speaker 3: most points scored. What's his name, Sean, You've heard me
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Speaker 3: talk about him all the time. Third and he never
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Speaker 3: thought about scoring.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'll give roma hint. He was six
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Speaker 2: foot one John Stockton.
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Speaker 3: That's correct. So John Stockton never thought about scoring. I
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Speaker 3: know some coach I've coached some guys Sean, they never
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Speaker 3: think about passing in the whole life. Ever, the only
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Speaker 3: time he passes when they passed somebody in the hallway,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So John never thought about scoring.
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Speaker 3: But he's fifty third all time. John Stockton scored nineteen thousand,
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and eleven points without thinking about scoring.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty good for not having it be your top priority.
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Speaker 3: It's amazing. And he shot for the field fifty one
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Speaker 3: point five for his career, nineteen games, nineteen years apartment,
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Speaker 3: excuse me, nineteen campaigns without a dunk in an NBA game,
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Speaker 3: look for her. He made one three point shot and
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Speaker 3: John never dunked the ball in the game. And Cream's
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Speaker 3: number two and John's number fifty fifty three, which shows
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Speaker 3: you that you could be successful by different styles. And
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Speaker 3: it's about it's about winning. And last night's game with
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Speaker 3: the IU football it was a class example. And the
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Speaker 3: basketball jogging right now, someday in the playoffs come up
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Speaker 3: May and June, whoever champion's gonna be. There be a
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Speaker 3: bunch of guys that are ultra talented. They play as
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Speaker 3: a unit. But the clutch players in the fourth quarter,
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, they come alive and they make plays out
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Speaker 3: of nothing. That's why they're going to be champions.
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