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Unsigned518 - Episode 216 - Michael Gardner · Unsigned518

• 0:01
  Speaker A: He was born on a Saturday in 73 he loves punk rock music fighting the 13 cabin on the beat guitar with a short with radio back his motherfucking Andy SC Here he comes Andy
• 0:23
  Speaker B: Sculling wearing his orange hat welcome to unsigned 518. I am here with Michael Gardner, owner of the Bakery Cannabis Dispensary here in Cahoes, New York. And actually this is really cool for me because we're actually at the dispensary now. So. How's it going, Michael?
• 0:42
  Speaker C: Very good. Thank you for having me.
• 0:44
  Speaker B: Yeah, thank you. Well, actually in this case it's kind of you, you. Thank you for having me because I feel, feel so cool getting that exclusive access.
• 0:52
  Speaker C: Absolutely.
• 0:53
  Speaker B: But so this is like one of the. I've done several cannabis episodes, had cannabis influencers and dispensary owners just kind of to talk about, not necessarily like the state of the business, but your offerings and kind of cannabis in general and maybe, you know, recommended strains and whatnot. But I guess just to get started, tell us a little bit about the bakery here in Cahoes.
• 1:22
  Speaker C: So we're a small family run business, know mom and pop. I'm a local guy, born and raised in this area. You know, we like to foster that. You know, we've curated a very, very strong menu with very good products. We're very particular about what products land on our menu. You know, we check coas. Coas are very important. That's going to tell you everything about the product.
• 1:49
  Speaker B: What's in it? Certificate of authenticity.
• 1:52
  Speaker C: Yeah, well, yeah, kind of. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:54
  Speaker B: What does it, what does COA stand for?
• 1:56
  Speaker C: Certificate of Analysis.
• 1:58
  Speaker B: And that's like where they get like the different kinds of THC's and like
• 2:03
  Speaker C: the terps or terps come through the THC percentages, cbd, cbg, all your minor cannabinoids. But also more importantly, obviously we care about that stuff. Right. But like the most important part for us is mold content, moisture. Is there aspergillus? Is there any other chemicals that they use to flush the product or is there anything lingering in there that you would consume as the consumer? Right, right. And not a lot of people know that. You know, like we're all used to like you know, just buying weed off of our buddy back in the day. And you're like, yeah, whatever. We don't know what's in it. We're just like, yeah, right.
• 2:40
  Speaker B: And this smells like cat pits. I don't know, whatever. Smoking. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:44
  Speaker C: You're like, oh, this, this must be the newest train. Like I don't Know, but, you know, that's the, like, that's the important part about, like, legal cannabis. Right. That's like what we've tried to hit home on. And I think maybe other, other owner operators or other businesses kind of steer away from that or haven't really jumped down that rabbit hole, but I think that's very important. And it needs to be like a statewide thing where, like, me, people need to pay attention to it. It's, it's the integrity of the entire market. Right. That's, that's, you know, that's the important importance of it. Like, that's safe. It's, it's safe consumption. Right. Like, that's the whole point. Point of being legal. Right. Because there's no difference. If we could just go back to, you know, hustle packs and, you know, and buying weed off of our friends, you know, what's the difference? Right?
• 3:36
  Speaker B: And when, you know, when it gets like the coa, like when it goes through everything, I mean, it's obviously like an independent tester. They, like, submit it to something and it's like a regulated board and everything is, is, is there and tested and because I, I was in the fresh, fresh fruit. I used to make fresh fruit and vegetable juices that were wholesaled.
• 3:58
  Speaker C: Yep.
• 3:58
  Speaker B: And we used to have to go through, like, the whole thing, too. Yes. And they tell you everything about your product. One thing is fucking wrong.
• 4:07
  Speaker C: They just, you're done.
• 4:08
  Speaker B: And that's like the same thing with,
• 4:10
  Speaker C: with this, same thing with, with, with the state. There's been like, a couple debacles where, you know, a couple of the testing facilities were caught doing something not necessarily wrong, but weren't doing it right, if you will. I, I, I wouldn't want to go too far into it because, you know, my, my lawyer would probably be like, what are you doing? What are you talking about? That stuff.
• 4:27
  Speaker B: He probably won't hear this.
• 4:29
  Speaker C: No, probably. I hope. Well, I probably send it to him. He loves hearing his stuff, but he loves telling me after fact, like, you probably should have said that. You, you know, like, you, you shouldn't say stuff like that. But he loves that stuff. But, you know, the, for the most part, yes. That's, that's the integrity side of the business. Right. Is your coas. That's the, that's the buffer between the, the grower, the processor and the retail dispensary and the consumer.
• 4:58
  Speaker B: And is there, you know, like, I guess, floating levels of what's acceptable? You know, because you were saying you kind of choose the highest tier, but people that may not choose that. They're not necessarily doing anything wrong.
• 5:11
  Speaker C: They're not necessarily doing anything wrong. And New York State has some, like, quirky level, like thresholds for mold and moisture content. You know, for. I, I don't want to speak too much on, like, the number, like the solid number that we like our threshold just because, like, I don't want to, like, shoot down or hurt any other brands that aren't meeting those, those standards. But you know, what New York allows for mold and moisture wouldn't typically be what I would consume.
• 5:46
  Speaker B: Right.
• 5:48
  Speaker C: And I say that with an open heart, you know, open arms, because, listen, we're all here. We're all new to this. We're all right. We're all, we're all first timers, sort of speak right in this space. Growing legally. Most of these people that are growing right now that have licenses, this might be their first run. This might not first run growing, but first run legally growing.
• 6:13
  Speaker B: And under them, these regulations that are strict.
• 6:17
  Speaker C: Yeah. And it's all new to them. And I don't ever want to discourage somebody from reaching that next plateau or growing a better, better product. Right. Or processing a better product, you know, because you never know who's going to come out with the next best thing. Right. You, you know, the, the brand that you pushed away today might be the brand that you need in a year or two years from now. Right. It's like that.
• 6:42
  Speaker B: Never really thought of it that way. That's.
• 6:43
  Speaker C: Yeah. And, and listen, these are human beings that they're. We're dealing with. This isn't like, like, you know, the other side of it. It's like that corporate side. Right. Where it's just like a number on a piece of paper. Right. But that's not us here. That's like, these are people. These are people's lives. These are, these are, these are farmers, basically. You know, like, these are, these are people. And a lot of these people have, have put their entire livelihoods on the line. You know, they've. They've leveraged houses or leveraged other businesses. They've leveraged, you know, themselves personally with loans and, you know, like, like that's why I always say, like, even if we're not carrying it or selling it right now, like, I wouldn't want to discourage somebody from buying something from somebody else. Right, Right. Because I never want anybody to get hurt. Right. I don't want other people to go out of business. I don't want people to, you know, I just don't want to see people get Hurt. That's all. You know, not saying that, you know, we would never sell your product. It's just like right now, it's just not right. It's not timing. Right. That's right. It's not, it's not the right time.
• 7:39
  Speaker B: Yeah. And that's like a good way of looking at it too, with everybody kind of starting at the same, same level. Because whether you're an experienced grower or not.
• 7:49
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 7:50
  Speaker B: These regulations are new.
• 7:52
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 7:52
  Speaker B: I mean, they're within the last couple years and they're chained. Like, if I'm not wrong, they're changing constantly.
• 7:57
  Speaker C: Forever changing. Um, you know, I just got an email a few weeks ago that you know, passed down new regulations and things are changing. And you know, I almost like, I immediately have to get on the phone with my lawyer because like, I read this stuff and I'm like, yeah, I kind of get this. But like, what's that really mean for me in my day to day business? Right. And then he'll break it down for me and such. But forever changing. The regulations are forever changing. And then the other side of things is, and I don't want to go too far into it, but the other side is like ocm, like these are human beings too. Right. This is the first time they're here.
• 8:30
  Speaker B: Right?
• 8:31
  Speaker C: Right.
• 8:31
  Speaker B: So they're, they're having to create regulations
• 8:35
  Speaker C: basically on the fly. Like they came up with this, like this, this outline and like this plan. There was very good people that, that were part of that process to get us to where we are now. But like, if you're not evolving and changing, like you're not growing. Right. Essentially, like, you know, like that's the other side of it too, that other people probably, they'll probably, you know, ridicule me and, and try or try to crucify me for this. But like they're human beings. OCM is, they're, they're, they're human beings too. They're not, they're not. You know, I've had several interactions with them. I don't think they're, they're bad people.
• 9:13
  Speaker B: Right.
• 9:14
  Speaker C: I think they're, they're, they, they're trying to do their best just like everybody else. And again, they're humans. Right. We human beings make mistakes. We all make mistakes. And they're just trying to do the best that they can. So, you know, just like the grower is just like the retailer is just like the bud tender is just like the sales guy is just like you with your podcast. We're all trying to do the best we can. Right. And sometimes we make mistakes, sometimes we say things we shouldn't and, or do things we shouldn't, you know, and in hindsight, hindsight's always 20 20. Right. So you're like, ah, yeah, probably should have done that.
• 9:44
  Speaker B: But the best thing, you know, not to get off topic, but the best thing about that is I've always found that whenever I make a mistake, the very first thing do is own up to it.
• 9:53
  Speaker C: Yeah. And that's, that's the best way to do it.
• 9:55
  Speaker B: Because you, like, I'm not fooling anybody. Like, if I make a mistake. Oh, I didn't make a mistake. It's like, then I just look like an idiot.
• 10:03
  Speaker C: Like, everybody practice that with, with my staff, my family, you know, and my peers too. Like, if I, if I mess up or I do something that I probably shouldn't have did, like, I want to. I want to own it immediately.
• 10:16
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 10:17
  Speaker C: Right. And that doesn't mean that I expect your forgiveness or your, your sympathy right away. I just like me as a human being.
• 10:27
  Speaker B: I just want to know that. I know that I up.
• 10:31
  Speaker C: Exactly. Yeah.
• 10:32
  Speaker B: I know I up. I know that it affected you in a negative way and just do what you want with that.
• 10:38
  Speaker C: Exactly. I think, I think for the state, it's probably a little bit different. Right? Because they got a lot of other. Other stuff to worry about. But like, you know, that's, you know, that's. I think for the state, it's a lot different. But you know, again, we're. We're only human, right?
• 10:54
  Speaker B: We're only human now. So with the, like, regulations and like, more specifically, like with the, the science behind it, you know, I've, I've learned so much in the last, like two, you know, like THCA and you know,
• 11:09
  Speaker C: like the, all the minor cannabinoids. Yeah.
• 11:10
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 11:11
  Speaker B: And is it true? Because I had, I was talking with someone else like, that was saying that, you know, because of that scientists can distinguish all the THC is. And that's how they can like, take the sleepy component out of one and yes. Put it in the other.
• 11:24
  Speaker C: So they've been able to like on, on a molecular level, I would say, like, kind of like, I don't know, like, I'm like Bill Nye the science guy now. But like, like, compared to like what we used to do with weed, like, we used to just grow it, you know, if sometimes you, you turn it into like hash and you're like, you know, or you'd grow it longer and like, the longer you Grew it kind of like you'd get that. You bring out like, get the purple, but it also bring out almost like a sleepy effect. Right. Like the longer you, you, you flush, the longer you grew it out. Like, you'd get like almost like the indica feeling. Right. You'd get like a sleepy feeling. Like we didn't really know what we were doing right now. Now this is like down to like they got scientists involved, people with like, you know, white scientist coats and, you know, like, they can pull things apart. And now they're creating products that are specifically designed for sleep that specifically have a minor cannabinoid CBN in it and
• 12:17
  Speaker B: that won't have like a euphoric effect. Like you can get gummies and stuff that'll you kind of sleepy or like,
• 12:25
  Speaker C: will they still have so on this market? Not per se, because it's all going to have thc, Right. Like the hemp market, like the CBD market. I think you would find some of those products more on the shelves there because they don't have the thc, which is the euphoric component. Right.
• 12:43
  Speaker B: It's my, it's my favorite part.
• 12:45
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. That's why most people smoke or consume, you know, it's because they want to, they want a little bit of an escape. Right. Or level. Level off. A lot of people. You.
• 12:55
  Speaker B: Yeah, you need to keep that microdose all day nice and level.
• 12:59
  Speaker C: Exactly. You got to level off for the. You know, we do. Speaking of microdosing, though, we do offer products that have lower levels of thc. Very, very low levels of THC and higher amounts of either CBD or cbn. So you're not going to get as much of the, the high feeling or like the euphoric feeling. You're going to get more of the medicinal.
• 13:22
  Speaker B: But it'll. I mean, it'll still be there, but just kind of mild.
• 13:25
  Speaker C: Yeah. Because again, we're selling THC products so like, everything that we carry has THC in it. That is the, the component that's. That's going to drive that euphoric feeling.
• 13:35
  Speaker B: But it's CBD basically has, you know.
• 13:37
  Speaker C: No.
• 13:38
  Speaker B: No. Or is there still like some.
• 13:41
  Speaker C: I would say, like, I don't even
• 13:43
  Speaker B: know delta, like what's like the Delta 9 and CBD and. And those things, like, I don't really
• 13:48
  Speaker C: know too much about, about that stuff.
• 13:50
  Speaker B: Good. That tells me all I need to know.
• 13:52
  Speaker C: Yeah. You know, but what I will say is be careful buying stuff like, oh, I would never, like synthetically made.
• 13:59
  Speaker B: I would never Buy that.
• 14:02
  Speaker C: You know the, the CBD that we carry, I wouldn't necessarily say it gets you high. It's the thc, right. If you went to like a CBD shop, I would have to assume that you're probably not going to get high from that product. It's more for like pain, inflammation, maybe to knock off the edge for like anxiety.
• 14:21
  Speaker B: And that's like a kind of legal everywhere type of.
• 14:24
  Speaker C: Yeah, like so you can get that in CBD shops pretty much across the state. I think across the. Well for the most part there it's legal in most states, but not all. There's still some red states where. Sure, sure. And red, no pun intended, just red meaning they don't allow hemp or CBD or cannabis. Not, not the political party, but same, same could be. My lawyer would probably tell me you probably shouldn't talk about any of that but you know that's, that's, yeah, that's pretty much it. About the cbd, we, we carry products that will get you high but also maybe not get you high and more of like give you like that medicinal benefits, you know.
• 15:11
  Speaker B: So speaking of products, I guess, you know, since this is, you know, we want to put a spotlight on the bakery and kind of what you carry and some of the products I guess maybe give us a little bit of, of the bestsellers or like staff favorites.
• 15:27
  Speaker C: Yeah. So we've taken a strong, we put a strong emphasis on micro businesses here at the bakery we carry, I don't even know if we're the largest selection of micros in the state. I don't know. We're a small dispensary so there could be other dispensaries that carry a lot more than us. But we, we focus on the micros, we showcase the micros. The moment you into our store you're going to see the smaller companies, the smaller mom and pops, the two, the three, the four man operations. You know, we got a guy that's, that's operating in the state that's, he's, he's, he's a two man show, you know, mvp, you know, great, great flower, great product. He's a great dude, great human being, you know, and they, they're a two man show and they're producing some of the best weed in the state. You know, my man Phil at Lead Farmer is producing top shelf and that's. We had talked before we got on the mic about the, the doink that was coming out. Yeah, it's like a three and a half gram joint with a glass Tip and you know, like to see a guy like him putting out a product as good as they're putting out and then to put out specialty products is, is, is special in my eyes. It's, that's what we're here for. Right? You know what I mean? Like, that's why, you know, and we've kind of put people over profits, if you sort of speak, you know what I mean? If you will. You know, man, there's so many I can name. I don't really want to single anybody out, you know, like Oasis is doing good things. He's been growing weed a long time. One Slice is doing great. Dreaming, Dreaming Tree Farm. You know, Lisa, she's, she started pressing all her stuff for rosin. Stuff is amazing.
• 17:23
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Tell me a little bit about like, like the difference between like, like live rosin and diamonds. Because again, as you know, I'm 52 years old and I've been smoking pretty much every day since I was a teenager. And then there's all these things that I'm like, am I really that old that I don't know about weed? Like, what is rosin versus diamond?
• 17:43
  Speaker C: So it's, it's about how they process it in the beginning and the end. Right. So typically diamonds are going to be, have solvents in them. There's going to be an extraction method, whether it be CO2 or. I don't know if they use ethanol anymore.
• 18:01
  Speaker B: Wasn't like butane.
• 18:03
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, Butane was the thing back in the day. Gas tubes and. Yeah, yeah. You know, speaking of which, I'm looking at the, the butane bottles right there. That's crazy. You said that filtered the Ektor signatures. That's a big box of butane. So typically you would take one of those for butane, for bho, that's what you called it. Right. And you take a glass tube and you press it down, you push it through and then whatever came out. The problem with that is you were probably, you were getting high off the product, but you're probably also getting high off the butane you were smoking. Yeah. So that's the biggest difference with rosin. It's solventless, right. So it's, it's, it's flash frozen right from, right from, from harvest. And then it's, it's froze it to a certain degree and then they press it. Right. And it's solventless. There's no, they don't have to remove anything from the product so that you can consume it.
• 18:55
  Speaker B: Because I've seen that word solvent, solventless.
• 18:58
  Speaker C: Yeah. So typically like, and I, and, and I don't want to throw shade at anybody that's using CO2 or, or, or anything like that, but your resins, your diamonds, you know, you cured your live resin, that type of stuff. Typically there's usually a solvent that's used
• 19:13
  Speaker B: and they try to pull it away.
• 19:16
  Speaker C: So yeah, they, that's how they extract the, the, the oil. Right. That's what they're using to extract the oil. Where as far as like solventless rosin is just, you're just flash freezing it and, and pressing it basically. In short, you know, without getting into too, too much detail, we could be here all day meticulously what the process is. But you know, for the, for the everyday consumer and the person that's listening to this, you know, it's typically when you see the word solventless, I want you to associate that with maybe organic unprocessed. Unprocessed, yeah, that's a better word, I guess. Unprocessed. But it is a process. Right. Unprocessed, I think is a better way to look at it. And a cleaner product. Right. So you're not getting any of the leftovers. The residuals. Right. You're not consuming any of the residuals or the leftovers. Typically it's going to be a different high too, from resin to, or diamonds and rosin. Rosin is going to be more of like, I would say like, like a full spectrum cleaner high. Most people describe it as head clarity.
• 20:27
  Speaker B: Okay.
• 20:27
  Speaker C: Yeah, like, like seeing clearly again.
• 20:29
  Speaker B: I know. Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker C: Like I could see everything now. You know, I can, I can see smells almost. You know what I mean? Like that type of clarity, you know, overall I'd say probably a better product, but like, I don't want to like steer people away from smoking resin or anything like that. Right. Because there's, there's a, there's a spot on the shelf for everybody. And just like the car business, there's a, there's a behind for every seat. Right, right. So, yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker B: And I never want to look at things like, you know, in a black or white.
• 21:00
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 21:00
  Speaker B: So many shades.
• 21:01
  Speaker C: There's a lot of gray.
• 21:02
  Speaker B: There's something for everybody.
• 21:03
  Speaker C: There's a lot of gray.
• 21:03
  Speaker B: And I really like how you're just like preaching community and you know, you're like, you keep saying you don't want to throw shade on anybody, you don't want to put anybody down. You know, it's doing what we're here for. That's what's resonating with me is that There is always room for everybody in everything. And the people that turn things into a competition usually don't last.
• 21:26
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, there's. There's good. There's healthy competition, right?
• 21:29
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, competition. And I think that's like a tennis game.
• 21:32
  Speaker C: Yeah. That's what we've created when no matter
• 21:34
  Speaker B: who wins, you're like, good game. That was cool.
• 21:36
  Speaker C: It's like, I think that's what we've created with our menu and our space here is almost like a healthy competition.
• 21:41
  Speaker B: Right. Some people.
• 21:42
  Speaker C: And that's saying, like, there's really good weed right now that that's out and that we don't carry right now. And there's. That's for other reasons, though. You know, that's like, sometimes when you bring brands in, you don't want them to cannibalize the brands that you're already showcasing. Right. So that's a very hard, like, road to navigate as, like, the owner and the buyer of the business. Because, like, a lot of these companies overlap. Right. A lot of them are growing the same strains. So that's another thing you have to
• 22:10
  Speaker B: pay attention to, not saying anything about the product.
• 22:14
  Speaker C: Here's the thing.
• 22:14
  Speaker B: What do we got?
• 22:15
  Speaker C: Three something dispensaries right now? Like, there's room.
• 22:17
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:18
  Speaker C: There's room for all of us, you know, And I just, I just hope in the near future that. That everybody that owns and owns a dispensary or is the buyer for dispensaries, gives those micros a second look, gives the people behind those companies a second look. Even if the first time around the flower wasn't that great. Like, don't, don't. Don't shun them for it, you know, because they're all learning to. I just, I would love to see. This is my vision for the, for the whole industry as a whole. Is micro dispensaries just dominating the state? And the reason why is because they're New York, right? That's New York. They're New York grown. They're New York bred. Most of these guys are from this area. Like, they, they've grown weed in this area for decades. They're generational talent. Right? And like in other states, this. This wasn't an opportunity for these guys like myself. Like in other states. It wasn't an opportunity for me to own a dispensary. Right. And I was given the opportunity here. And I think it's only right that you carry that on. Right? Like, we're like the example. That's what we're trying to lead by example. But I would hope that my neighbor down the street says, what are they doing? Maybe I should start doing a little bit of what they're doing. Right? And because if you, if you only sell stuff that's from this state and you're not white selling white label brands or people from out of the area, you almost, you almost push them out, right? They can't exist like if you're not selling their products. Right. And this goes for, for ROS or msos too, that I'm not going to say that they're bad for the industry. I just don't think that. What's the right word to say that I don't want to get in trouble, but I'll steer off of that a little bit. I think if everybody kind of paid attention a little bit more to the micro dispensaries and the people behind that, I think our space, our market would benefit. And I think the end goal would be the consumer would benefit more too. The consumer is going to get a better product. Something that's touch the farmer's hands. Something where love, passion and dedication was put into play rather than, you know, heavy salts and science scientists basically. Right? And like corporations, corporate cannabis. Like corporate corporate cannabis. And it's, it's so much a thing down to the fact of if New York is not careful, we will follow in the same footsteps as neighboring states and find ourselves with guys like me. And I'm, I'm not, not the, I'm not, I'm not exempt from this and neither is the other guys that own card licenses. You will find yourself in a position where you don't have a, you don't have a leg to stand on anymore. Right. You almost get pushed out by the bigger corporate companies and it's like that's, that's like the American way, right? That's like big bank take little bank type of thing. But like we're in a unique position where we could stop that from happening. You can at least slow it down to a point where guys like me and under other individuals that are small operators or small processors or growers can withstand the storm. Right? Because we haven't experienced the storm yet. New York as a whole OCM and the state and the regulations and the people in power have done a pretty good job at keeping that at bay, right, with some of the regulations. But they can't keep them, they can't hold off the wolves forever. They can't hold off the, the, the, the, the vultures forever. Right? There's only, only so many fences that you can put up before, you know, somebody comes along and cuts a little piece in. And then before you know it, it's a bigger hole and everything's coming through. Right. But we're, like I said, we're in a unique position. And I think if more dispensary owners took, Took not, and maybe put a little bit more emphasis on micro dispensaries or just smaller companies, just New York companies in general, like, I think they would be surprised at the feedback from the consumer, number one, and the feedback from their peers.
• 26:44
  Speaker B: Right. It's like, I mean, in almost anything. Like, it sounds like you're talking about creating a community. And like, when you create a community.
• 26:51
  Speaker C: Yeah. That's.
• 26:52
  Speaker B: That's what defends you from the things that are trying to come in. Because you're like, no, we're a community.
• 26:58
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker B: You can't touch us.
• 26:59
  Speaker C: Yeah. It's like, it's like strength in numbers. Power to the people. Right. That's. That's. That's essentially what it is without getting, like, too, like, political, because, like, I don't ever want to be, like, a freedom fighter or anything like that. I want to be like, you know, I don't want to be labeled as that. I just, you know, I'm passionate about what we're doing here, you know, And I think you, when you walk into our place, you'll notice that. You'll notice that every. Every budtender is very passionate about. They're proud to be selling what they're sell. Right. And I'm not saying that other places, when you walk in, they're not proud. I'm just saying that we're very proud. Right. We're very proud of our menu, very proud of our vendor choices, very proud of our partners. I would say vendor partners, like, where we treat every vendor that we bring on as almost like a partnership. Like, we're in this together. Like, I can't do this without you, and essentially you can't do this without me in a sense. Right. Like, I'm sure you could go to other dispensaries, but, like, you know, we're partners.
• 27:51
  Speaker B: Right.
• 27:51
  Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like, your, Your. Your brand and your product is a direct reflection of me, and vice versa. I am a direct reflection of you. Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker B: And your success is my success.
• 28:01
  Speaker C: Exactly.
• 28:02
  Speaker B: Successes.
• 28:02
  Speaker C: And that's how you build a strong community, you know, And I come from an area where there was a sense of strong community, you know, and that's translated into my later years, you know, And I just Want to. That feeling that I always felt, you know, a part of something. I just want to resonate that and make people feel that same feeling. Which is a good feeling.
• 28:23
  Speaker B: Yeah. Hell yeah. Well, Michael, this was a fantastic conversation. Yeah, I could fucking go. We could be here forever, hours and hours. But I think. I think we'll wrap it up. But before we do.
• 28:32
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker B: Is there like anything that you want to add about the bakery, you know, about the business to kind of let people know how cool the spot it is?
• 28:40
  Speaker C: You know, brands that we would be proud of, I guess, right. Would be the collector Sensei. I think I said Oasis, you know, mvp, two man operation. Putting out some of the best flour in the state right now. One slice Lead Farmer. My man Phil over at Lead Farmer. I think we talked about the. The doink before we were on, on the microphone. It's like a three and a half gram joint, you know, with a glass tip. I mean, it's just, it's real special to see guys like that that are doing very well and then put out special products like that. One of my favorite white label brands putting out some great, great product. He's got a great brand. My man Paulie from Breakfast Connections. You know, there's. I mean, there's so many to rattle off. I could be here all day. I mean, we're so proud of every person on our menu. Every piece is designed to produce a great quality product. Right. And a great quality customer experience. You know, a couple more brands that probably deserve some spotlight. Rolling Hills Wellness, putting out some good sour strains and 518 Hollow. Very local to us. Not too far from us. They're bread and butter placed at the grower's cup, you know, and like rosin brands, like I said, Dream and Tree Farm. Lisa, she's very good, you know, Trout and co. New roots. New roots. Won a couple awards at the growers showcase too. You know, in Circle Hill, they're putting out some of the best rosin in the state right now. And I know we touched on a little bit with rosin and what that is, but yeah, I would say those are probably the best brands that we're carrying right now. And you know, again, you know, everybody we carry is, is, is, is good. So we have a carefully curated menu and anybody that stops in would be pleasantly surprised and pleased with what they pick up from here. And I want to hit home on one more thing before we get off. I have an amazing staff. They mean the world to me on a personal level and a business level. They are I always say this to them. They're rock stars, right? They're rock stars in this space. They do a great job. And I just want them to know when they're listening to this that I love them very much and I couldn't do it without them. So, yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker B: Fantastic.
• 30:54
  Speaker C: Yeah. All right.
• 30:54
  Speaker B: Well, he is Michael Gardner of the bakery Dispensary. I am Henry scullen. This is unsigned 518. I'll see you on the road.
• 31:04
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• 31:36
  Speaker B: Take care of one another and I'll
• 31:38
  Speaker D: see you next week.
• 31:42
  Speaker B: Andy Scullin.