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How To Build Cool Chick Style (That’s Actually Quality) · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on worundry Land Always was, Always
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  Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey Chicks, I'm sal and I'm Out.
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  Speaker 1: This is two broad chicks to show that shares life
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  Speaker 1: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.
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  Speaker 2: And today we are.
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  Speaker 1: In for a gorgeous little shopping treat. Chicki's because we
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  Speaker 1: are joined by Katerina Riley, a Melbourne based fashion designer
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  Speaker 1: who is also doing God's work, sharing tips on how
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  Speaker 1: to spot the difference between a good and bad quality garment,
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  Speaker 1: fabric composition one oh one, and a bunch of other
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  Speaker 1: hacks to help you get more bang for your buck
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  Speaker 1: when shopping for cludes. Hey Cat, Oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Fan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, I think I saw like one
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  Speaker 3: of your first videos and I was like, oho, literally,
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  Speaker 3: because you're you're kind of new to the content creation world, right,
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  Speaker 3: like how long ago did you start?
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  Speaker 2: But I started doing like the quality stuff maybe August
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  Speaker 2: last year?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, signed up science He'll delivered. I'm yours.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: It's so so helpful because a lot of the information
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  Speaker 1: that you share is stuff that the average day shop
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  Speaker 1: I isn't going to know, and I think in a
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  Speaker 1: cost of living crisis, we all want to find, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that good medium ground between something that's good quality but
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  Speaker 1: also affordable. So we're going to get into that, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for. But before we do start with
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  Speaker 1: our questions, we like to start with a life lesson
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  Speaker 1: of the week. So, as our guest of honor, would
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  Speaker 1: you like to start us off?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? My life lesson is so simple, And my mum
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  Speaker 2: always says it to me. When I reach a milestone
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  Speaker 2: on TikTok, say like I reach five K and I
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  Speaker 2: reached ten k followers on my video, reach three hundred
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  Speaker 2: thousand views, She'll say to me, I'm so proud. You're
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  Speaker 2: doing amazing things. But just keep being yourself. Keep being you,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what people want to see, is the real you,
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  Speaker 2: and just keep doing you.
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  Speaker 1: So oh my god, I'm going to cry.
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  Speaker 2: Just be yourself. But I think that constant reminder from
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  Speaker 2: your mum is so nice.
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  Speaker 3: It is because as well, even whether it's on social
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  Speaker 3: media and content creation, or whether it's at work with
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  Speaker 3: people in person or a group of friends, like it
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  Speaker 3: can very easily feel like the person that you are
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  Speaker 3: in yourself isn't enough for the things that are around you.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the reason why people are there or you're
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  Speaker 3: in that environment. So I think that's a beautiful reminder.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, don't lose sight of who you
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  Speaker 1: really are. And a lot of the time, who's going
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  Speaker 1: to know that best then your mom or whoever that
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  Speaker 1: like maternal figure is in your life. Yeah. My life
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  Speaker 1: lesson of the week is a quick one and it's
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  Speaker 1: a little eyeshadow tip. So I have really oily eyelids,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine, the rest of my skin is so dry.
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  Speaker 3: Eyelids oil oil can.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like my eyeshadow just gets like like
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  Speaker 1: sucked up and eaten away by my eyelids. So I
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  Speaker 1: was doing some research on how to properly prep my
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  Speaker 1: eyelids before doing eyeshadow, and I've found this combo actually
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  Speaker 1: really helps and it's pretty simple. So I first apply
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  Speaker 1: a primer I've tried gel and then also like a
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  Speaker 1: more sort of creamy one. Both. Have you tried concealer,
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  Speaker 1: like just using it? Well? Sorry, sorry, Well I have
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  Speaker 1: tried a concealer and that didn't work.
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  Speaker 3: It creased with it.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, I have tried a concealer before and I
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  Speaker 1: found that that's still settled into still settled into the
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  Speaker 1: fire lines, and then I'd get like a big crease
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  Speaker 1: and then my it wasn't enough, So don't work.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So I do a primer.
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  Speaker 1: Then I'll do a little bit of concealer. Then I
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  Speaker 1: go in with like a little bit of a translucent
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  Speaker 1: powder to set it, and then I put my eye.
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  Speaker 3: Shadow on on top.
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  Speaker 1: And I found that that has really helped. Like in
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  Speaker 1: the past, I've even tried just eyelid primers in general,
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  Speaker 1: and I found that that wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like the secret ingredient.
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  Speaker 1: For me as an oily eyelid girl is the setting
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  Speaker 1: powder at end and also leaving enough time between those
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  Speaker 1: steps for each product to settle in. So I'll, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, do the primer and then I'll do my
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  Speaker 1: bronzer and then you know, then I'll do the next step,
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  Speaker 1: then I'll do something else. Okay, shall we get into
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  Speaker 1: the air. Let's do it all right? So tell us
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  Speaker 1: how did you get into fashion?
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  Speaker 2: I have a really core memory. I might have been
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  Speaker 2: like maybe eight. We didn't have Wi Fi now homes then,
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  Speaker 2: and we had like our monitor computer and we would
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  Speaker 2: get an hour a day to play on the computer.
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  Speaker 2: My brother and I and I would always want to
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  Speaker 2: play Startle.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys have Oh god, yes, I loved that
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  Speaker 1: kind of shit like that. This is probably a bit
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  Speaker 1: before your time, but I also loved like my scene,
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  Speaker 1: which is like the Barbie version.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, I did textiles in year twelve, and that really
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  Speaker 2: started the whole journey. I still keep in touch with
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  Speaker 2: my textiles.
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  Speaker 1: He too.
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  Speaker 2: It was actually a really full circle moment. I still
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  Speaker 2: can children's wear, and I saw a photo on her
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  Speaker 2: story that her son was wearing something I had designed,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, girl, I designed that, and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, my student is now designing what my
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  Speaker 2: son is wearing. A full circle moment for both her
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  Speaker 2: and me. She would have been amazing, so nice. She
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  Speaker 2: was the best. I really felt seen by her and
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  Speaker 2: really motivated. So I really think that kicked everything off.
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  Speaker 2: Apart from the start.
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  Speaker 3: All that must be the coolest thing to go about
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  Speaker 3: your day and see people. It's so weird in the
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  Speaker 3: things you designed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I designed that to sign boyfriend's like
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  Speaker 2: shut up please.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to jump into a few different categories
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  Speaker 3: of topics in this app we're going to do good
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  Speaker 3: quality versus bad quality. We're going to do building a wardrobe,
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  Speaker 3: and then we're going to get into sharping bread and butter. Baby,
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  Speaker 3: so let's jump into good quality versus bad quality, because
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  Speaker 3: this is your bread and butter and you are literally
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  Speaker 3: an expert. So fabrics. There's two types of fabrics, right,
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  Speaker 3: there's natural and synthetic. Yes, okay, give me the crash
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  Speaker 3: course of fabric composition. Explain fabric composition to me like
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  Speaker 3: a dummy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. When you say fabric composition, that's the part that
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  Speaker 2: I want to break down because usually we would say
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  Speaker 2: fiber composition. Because you have your fiber and your fabric.
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  Speaker 2: They're two different things. So we'll start with your fiber,
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  Speaker 2: which is what everyone knows. You'll have cotton, polyester, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the source of the fabric. That's what it's made from.
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  Speaker 2: So you have all those which is where synthetics and
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  Speaker 2: natural come into it. Okay, So you have natural and
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  Speaker 2: synthetic fibers. So natural fibers are cotton, linen, wool, yep, yep.
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  Speaker 3: And then synthetic fibers are.
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  Speaker 2: Poly nylon, acrylic, yeah, those things. And then you have
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  Speaker 2: your fabric, which, without getting too technical, is how the
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  Speaker 2: fabric was made. So generally you have your wovens and
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  Speaker 2: your knits. So, for example, a knitted fabric is a jersey,
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  Speaker 2: say like a T shirt fabric, and you can have
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  Speaker 2: cotton jersey, but you can also have polyester jersey, so
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of broken down like that. And then a
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  Speaker 2: woven fabric might be denim, and you can have a
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  Speaker 2: cotton denim. You can have lots of different.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So fibers is what the fabric is made of?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you they don't usually say, well, sometimes they do,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what they more want to tell you is
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  Speaker 2: the fiber.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so the fibers what it's made from. The
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  Speaker 1: fabric is how it's made essentially.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Is there a certain way that's better than others?
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  Speaker 1: Is what?
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  Speaker 3: Or is it just how that certain fabric like denim
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  Speaker 3: is always made, woven teese are always made knitted.
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  Speaker 2: You could have a woven tea, but okay, just will
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  Speaker 2: look different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's more like what is required for the
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  Speaker 1: fit of the garment. Yeah, one isn't necessarily better than
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  Speaker 1: the other.
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  Speaker 2: Categories that exists.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, what's a green flag and a red flag
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  Speaker 3: in fiber composition.
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  Speaker 2: I think it so depends on the product and what
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  Speaker 2: it's been used for. So, say, for example, you have swimwear,
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  Speaker 2: You're not using cotton in swimwear like that. Cotton has
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  Speaker 2: really bad it holds water, so you're just gonna stay
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  Speaker 2: wet afterwards. You'd want to be using nylon or polyester, okay,
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  Speaker 2: because they have great moisture waking properties. So it really
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  Speaker 2: does depend on what it's being used for. Yeah, in
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  Speaker 2: my mind, if you're you have a basic white tea
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  Speaker 2: like the one I'm wearing today and it's one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent poly it's probably because it's being cut costs and
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  Speaker 2: not for functional purposes. So I think it really does
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  Speaker 2: depend on the style and what characteristics you want from it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and like trying to determine if brands are using certain
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  Speaker 2: fibers to save on cost or for its performance, which
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  Speaker 2: is really hard to know. And that's kind of what
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to educat for everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we need to like work together
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  Speaker 3: to create because like cheat we love making cheat sheets.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we need to like join forces and
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  Speaker 3: create like a fabric composition, fiber composition cheat sheet of like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: if you're buying a tea, like this is what to
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  Speaker 3: look for. If you're buying genes, this is what to
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  Speaker 3: look for because there is so much. But I think
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  Speaker 3: especially on socials, there are certain buzzwords at the moment
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  Speaker 3: right and polyester is one of them. Is polyester in
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  Speaker 3: your clothing always a no no? Or is it ever
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  Speaker 3: a good thing?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so torn on this because we know polyester is
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  Speaker 2: doesn't buy a degrade, it's sustainable. But also the thing
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  Speaker 2: is polyester sometimes has really great benefits, such in swimwear
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  Speaker 2: like I just mentioned, or active wear for its moisture,
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  Speaker 2: weeking for its strength. So again, when it's been used
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  Speaker 2: to cut costs where it doesn't need to be there,
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  Speaker 2: definitely not like I don't want to see it. That's
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  Speaker 2: a REFLI what are.
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  Speaker 3: Some items that if you saw had polyester in it,
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  Speaker 3: you'd be like, I'm not buying that, Like a T
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  Speaker 3: shirt shirt, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Probably doesn't need to be there. I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 2: of all the variables, but fashion covers so many nuances,
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  Speaker 2: like if you had a small percentage, maybe it would
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  Speaker 2: do this to it. So probably like a shirt, maybe
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  Speaker 2: probably denim doesn't mean any polyester.
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  Speaker 3: And I've seen you were talking about polyester in very
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  Speaker 3: structured clothing such as blazers, can sometimes play a role
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  Speaker 3: because it helps it hold its shape, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That's the thing with jackets is one it
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  Speaker 2: can be really expensive to use all natural and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: natural fabrics don't keep their shape as well as synthetics.
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  Speaker 2: That's the nature of synthetics. They're strong usually and they
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  Speaker 2: keep their shape well. So in blending it you get
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  Speaker 2: the properties of say wool, then you have also the
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  Speaker 2: properties of the strength and the durability that will help
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  Speaker 2: that product last and maybe not shed or not all
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  Speaker 2: those kinds of things. So I think, yeah, when it's
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  Speaker 2: blended like that again for performance and it's small.
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  Speaker 3: Right, there's tolerance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your top?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think? And like, obviously, as we've said,
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  Speaker 3: there's new ones. People can take this or leave this
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  Speaker 3: hotally just your person so general exactly, and this is
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  Speaker 3: just your personal opinion.
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  Speaker 1: So like everyone has free will, you can buy.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you want. When you're shopping and you're looking for
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  Speaker 3: a blazer, let's say, which is one of the ones
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  Speaker 3: that we love. Structure, what is the maximum polyester percentage
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  Speaker 3: that you would buy in a.
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  Speaker 2: Blazer fifty okay, I wouldn't go more than that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to say fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And how much would you pay that thing that.
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  Speaker 2: Comes into it? I get this, I get this a lot,
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  Speaker 2: like how much polyester do you want? But then it
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  Speaker 2: I think retail price comes into it so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some diabolical prices.
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  Speaker 2: If you're paying fifty dollars for the Blazer, fifty percent great.
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  Speaker 2: If you're paying one thousand dollars, none, I expect you
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  Speaker 2: say none.
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  Speaker 3: If you're paying a thousand dollars, there is a four
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars Beckon Bridge swayed jacket that is
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  Speaker 3: ninety two percent polyester, which is.
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  Speaker 2: Hate to be the bond because be the person to
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  Speaker 2: say it. But with synthetic things like that, you need
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  Speaker 2: some polyester. You can't do like FoST suede ru my knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: I could be wrong, you can't do. Let me just
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  Speaker 2: do leather if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 3: But why is it four hundred and fifty dollars? Is
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  Speaker 3: my question?
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  Speaker 2: Because I saw I think other for that price I reckon?
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  Speaker 3: Really, No, Zara has a three hundred and eighty nine
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent leather blazer Swayed Swayed blazer for three
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: The thing with Zara is that, oh my gosh, so
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  Speaker 2: many things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, please tell me.
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  Speaker 2: So Zara have like global power they all around the
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  Speaker 2: world they have they work with such big volumes. They
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  Speaker 2: order mass amount of units so that they can really
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  Speaker 2: bargain with their suppliers they're ordering, say between say a
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  Speaker 2: regular brand might order ten thousand of something, Zara could
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  Speaker 2: order two hundred thousand of something, and so they can
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  Speaker 2: get a unit price down exactly, so then they can
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  Speaker 2: price things at a lower price. But also they might
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  Speaker 2: not have like KPIs on like margins that they need
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  Speaker 2: to reach, So you know, things like that always come
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  Speaker 2: into play.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what about plethora. Where do you stand with pleth?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm wearing pleather today. Yeah, So I've been thinking
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  Speaker 2: about this recently. I was actually going to make a
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  Speaker 2: video about it. That it's such a moral debate for
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  Speaker 2: me because it's like you either buy plastic which is
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  Speaker 2: polyester pleath and you're humming the environment essentially, or it's
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  Speaker 2: not sustainable, or you're buying animal products. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 2: don't I actually don't have the answer, and I'm still
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  Speaker 2: like fighting, not fighting, but like internal it.
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  Speaker 1: Something that you have to weigh up and where your
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  Speaker 1: values sit, even on a spectrum, because you can care
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  Speaker 1: about both of those things, but at the time you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well which one do I align my values with? Would
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  Speaker 1: you say? Then A good tip for somebody who is
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  Speaker 1: sort of reckoning with that internal battle is to go
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  Speaker 1: for vintage leather.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the first tip in most of my videos
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  Speaker 2: you'll hear me say to start off vintage op shops
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  Speaker 2: like Evadpop. That is my number one with everything, like
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  Speaker 2: you will get the best quality for the best price.
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  Speaker 3: And the men's section. Go to the men's vintage section.
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  Speaker 3: That is where all of my leather jackets are from,
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  Speaker 3: like literally all of my like button up shirts as well.
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  Speaker 3: Like men's button ups, I find are often made with
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  Speaker 3: more natural, breathable materials because they're all sweaty little boys.
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  Speaker 1: So that's also why.
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  Speaker 3: You can shop in the men's section. We love But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think with all fashion there is always a foreign
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  Speaker 3: against Like you can look at all of it and
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  Speaker 3: there's always going to be a foreign again, and that's
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  Speaker 3: also why it is good to prioritize secondhand because it
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  Speaker 3: already exists. It's already there, and I think even if
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  Speaker 3: you are potentially shopping with more fast fashion brands, if
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  Speaker 3: you're still buying that secondhand, it's still better. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're giving things a second life.
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  Speaker 1: What are the top three most common signs that are garment.
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  Speaker 3: Is bad quality?
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  Speaker 2: I need to preface this by saying, usually when something's
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  Speaker 2: higher quality, it comes with a higher price point, because
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  Speaker 2: when you're using high quality trims, fabrics, etc. You're going
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  Speaker 2: to generally have a high retail price. So it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to say bad quality generally speaking, because you're probably going
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  Speaker 2: to pay a bit more for better quality. Unfortunately, it's
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  Speaker 2: the of it. But if I'm speaking generally three indicators. Definitely,
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  Speaker 2: if it's already peeling in store, definitely, I wouldn't touch
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  Speaker 2: it with a ten foot pall.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you can do like a little abrasion test yourself
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  Speaker 2: if you rub the fabric together like you're hand washing
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  Speaker 2: something and it starts to like pill. Yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 2: red flag for me.
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  Speaker 3: Such a good test. Good hag. Yeah, and you're doing
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  Speaker 3: a good thing for the next person, Like no, Nope,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even need to do the test exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody has cooked here.
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  Speaker 3: It was cat Cat's like got a battle clover orm
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  Speaker 3: just going around to all the stores and.
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  Speaker 1: Just rubbing all the Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What about zippers?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I always talk about YKK zips on my page.
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  Speaker 2: What's a YKK zip? YKK is a brand. Okay, They're
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  Speaker 2: renowned in the industry for their high quality zips, really durable,
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  Speaker 2: like easy to zip up and down, really long lasting.
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  Speaker 2: I used to work in children's war and they have
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  Speaker 2: really high safety standards in children's where and YKK, in
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  Speaker 2: my experience, was one of the brands that was approved
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  Speaker 2: to be used in children's where. So I think that
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: really shows that the zip will last really well and
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: it's not going to fall off because the child won't
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: ingest it. And yeah, I think that's a really great
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: indicator is YKK. But there's so many other brands. One
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: that comes to mind is sub It's s double a B.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: That was also an.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: At least on the zip. Like if I'm looking at.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, but brands can do things where they like custom
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: make and it could be from YKK. I don't know
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: if then it has to be stamped with YKK, not too, sure,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: but you can custom zips, yeah, for sure with any brand.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: That will be expensive, But YKK would be my go to. Okay,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: anything else If I haven't heard of it myself, I'm like, well,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I do a little google, but yeah, YKK.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: What about if like a seam is already lifting?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, yeah, definitely.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: So if you're looking at a jacket and you like
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: maybe open and the stitching is already kind of lifted
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: or that pulled a little bit, you're like, you're going
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: near that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: No way. And like if fabric sheer not on purpose,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you know when you sometimes have like a sheer cashmere
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: top and it's like sexy little shit moment and it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: on purpose. But shear by accident, that's where brands can
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: cut costs because reducing the fabric weight is a way
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: that you can cut costs and save some money. So
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I think shear by accident that's a big.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: No no for me. So you know when you like
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: go on store and you're trying to white pair of
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: pants and you're like, okay, cool and you can see
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: the pockets shirt hate that, Or when you tuck your
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: shirt in and you can see your shirt in the
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: pants Yeah, what about like I've heard you talk about
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: bubbling in clothing. What is that?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And can you explain like what that looks like so
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: people can keep an eye out for it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I see it a lot in woven fabrics, especially saturn.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Saturn's a woven weave. Satin can be made from polyester
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and silk and all those things. And it comes from
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: when tension or when you're sewing it too much ten
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: or not enough tension has been applied and it creates
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that bubbling effect. There's a lot of other factors that
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: go into it, but mostly.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: And this is on the scene right when it like
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: lifts a little bit or it's like a little bit
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: of a wave. And what's your little hack for the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: in seams or the in stitching. I might be using
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: the wrong.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: So the thing is that brands know that customers don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: look at the inside. The general customer won't look at
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the inside. So I guess that's a way that they
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: can cut on cost or cut on construction methods because
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: the customer won't notice.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: They're cheeky bastard.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: That's my little hack.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: So turn it inside out.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I need to. Yeah, And it's sometimes hard because you're
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: like what am I looking for? That's where I come in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's definitely the way that Yes, it looks
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: pretty on the outside, but it needs to also be
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: secure on the inside. And that's how you're going to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: tell one to me that that's been constructed with consideration
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and quality control.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: What do you look for when you turn something inside out?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Something that I really like to see is like the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: internal seams bound with a bind so you don't see
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: any of that overlocked edge. Yeah, great reinforcement, but like,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: it just looks so clean, but it comes with cost.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: It's another trim to order, minimum order quantities and things
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: like that, so it definitely comes with a price, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it's so nice when I see it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: And like no loose threads or anything like that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Definitely that loose threads, we hate her. She's dead to us. Yeah,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: put your threads in, bitch, see it though? I know
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: it's interesting.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Is the reason why sometimes we see higher end brands
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: with pieces that may have a fiber composition that does
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: have like polyester or synthetic materials in it, but it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: may be three hundred and fifty dollars for you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a top or a dress. Is that because the actual
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: way that it has been.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Made is better quality.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So the price is more so reflecting the way that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the garment has been made and that quality versus the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: fiber composition. Because we see brands all the time and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it will be like they use a lot of polyester.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: But then you're tossing up, well do I get this
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: or do I get the cheaper version? Like are you
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: paying for the actual they may be using, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: like a lower cost fiber composition, but the way the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: way more expensive. Yeah, so it will look better and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get the pilling, or you're not
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: going to get the bubbling, or the pockets are going
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to sit flat.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I think I would take into account the complexity of
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the style. So it's just like a really plain dress,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: there's probably it's probably not that difficult, but if it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: really complex, maybe really structured, it would probably need some
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: synthetics to keep it shape. There's obviously ways you can
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: do it without it, but that's probably where synthetics would
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: come in, and I would say would be appropriate.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Let's get into building your how would you go about
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: building a capsule wardrobe that is filled with only good
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: quality pieces?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I think a capsule wardrobe looks different for everyone. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: have a friend Maddie. She's like a TikTok creator. She's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: amazing and she's known for her bright, colorful outfits. So
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a capsual wardrobe for her would look so different to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: capture wardrobe. For me, I'm a basic bitch. So I
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: think it's about understanding on your days that you got
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: your period or you really can't be fucked doing anything
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and you need an outfit. What are you drawn to first?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I think about is like all black for me,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a big blazer like don't look at me, and coffee pants,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: maybe an elastic past or something. And so I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: it's about understanding yourself first, which is a bit deep,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: but no, we love it about that first. And then
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: in terms of building a high quality one, I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: it's about doing it slowly. Even say it's out of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: your price point, which it is for me too, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you only pick two items for the season to add
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to your wardrobe, fine, just do it slowly and that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that way, I think you're really building a good quality
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: wardrobe brother than just a quick one. You don't have
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: to finish the wardrobe in the season. You can finish
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: it over time.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I like that. I like there's a couple of creators
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: that do versions of like pyramids and pie charts, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: they always start with a foundation, and that's like foundation
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: is kind of that capsule part that's like, yeah, your
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: jeans and like whatever that is, Like in my capsule wardrobe,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: there's cowboy boots in my foundation. Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and then on top.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Of that you have like the accents, and like that's
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: when I maybe bring in like my green jacket that
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: looks like it's from the Lizzie McGuire movie, or like
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: my little accents, and I'm like, yeah, this is fun. Now,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: this is now why I feel like I'm wearing a
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: different outfit every day.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Yeah, it's kind of having a balance
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: between those things, Like you have your capsule base pieces,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: but then you have a select usetak.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Garnish, Yeah, a garnish item, yeah, a little bit of
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: a corean a jacket if you will.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But also as we head into the cooler months,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of us are shopping for knitwear. And in
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the perfect world, we would all be purchasing one hundred
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: percent cashmere and wall jumpers, right, but not everybody can
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: afford that. Because most places, if you are going to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: buy something that is one hundred percent natural fiber, it
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: is going to come with a higher price. I think.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So when we are looking for nitwear that is good
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: quality but affordable, what's the knitwear blend we should be
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: looking for.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: The one thing I want to tell everyone is no acrylic.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I hate acrylic. That's my actually just my opinion, but
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I hate acrylic. It's the devil to me.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: In knitwear.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, sorry, In nitwear specifically, why the way a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: click's made is it's cut up to be really short fibers,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: and we hate short fibers. They that's what's prone to pilling. Yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it like traps the heat, so like you're gonna feel
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: warm and crazy, but you're gonna feel clammy and sweaty.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So it's I hate it. It's hate that day.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Is that why? It also has that kind of like
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: sheen to it as well, Like in certain lights at all,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you can see almost like a plasticy sort of like
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: shene generally.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yes, but I hate a curly But
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the blends I would be looking for any cotton blends.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Glassons actually do an one hundred percent cotton knit which
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: is like thirty nine ninety nine And I really like it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I bought it myself, so if that says anything, I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: really like it. It's washed really well. It's just like
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: a v neck Yeah.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And as a Melbourne winter girly, do you find that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it's warm and up?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay? And what do you think about Uniclon nit?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Where love it?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I really love that Knits. You can get cashmir for
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent Cashme for like one hundred and thirty
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: dollars ye, which like it's not cheap but relative Hashmi
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in the market.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in relation, like there's one hundred percent cashme or
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: other retails for four hundred five hundred dollar. Yeah. Where
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: does shrinking come into all of this?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So, like you know how.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: People say, oh I bought this and it's shrunk straight away?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Is that because the item was bad quality or people
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: don't know how to wash their clothes?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I would say generally the second, people don't know how
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to take care of their items. Yeah, wool is known
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: to shrink in it where specifically that's how will performs unfortunately,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: but if you take care of it, or if you
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: know how to wash it properly using special wool detergents
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: and cold wash and trying not to do it too often.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: You can generally air things out.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: So how do you wash your clothes as someone who
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: is a designer.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Very gently? A lot of hand washing. I'm just I'm
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: just a bit of a scared gal. Yeahin any of
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: my items, especially what I've invested, So a lot of
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: hand washing. Even if the care label will say like
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: delicate machine wash, I'll just hand wash it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, a lot of hand washing of that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I definitely prefer the handwash and like always cold, everything
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is one wash cold.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Were there any other nitwear blends so we should look
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: out for aside from cotton.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I think the blend of nylon is great gain not
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: used for cost cutting, but for its performance. You might
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: see polyamide as well. Nylon's the branded polyamide is the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: generic version. They're the same thing.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: We're kind of entering our shopping section of the episode.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: When you were shopping, what is like your checklist? So
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: say you're going You're looking at an item and you're like, hmm,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I like the look of this, I might want to
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: buy it. This is my checklist that you've got to
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: tick these off for me? To make this purchase. Firstly,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: it's fiber composition.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Every time I tell my friends and family, check the tags,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: even if you don't know what it means, just message
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: me like check. You need to be checking the tags
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and what it's made of. And then if it's relative
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: to the price point, which is I guess the personal decision,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: but I guess knowing what I know and what I've
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: worked on, I kind of understand if it's appropriate for
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that point, and that's another factor that I would take
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: into account. And then the construction method definitely, the construction
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and how it's been put together, the seams or the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: types of seams that have used, or French scenes and
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: flat felt scenes and all these kinds of technical things.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: The quality of the lining, which is something that friends
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: can skip on because no one cares about the lining,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: do they, But it's really important to have a high
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: quality lining. Sometimes I will buy like a polyester lining
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: is fine. Sometimes it depends on the circumstance, but yeah,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: lining and internal fabrics as well as if it's been
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: binded on the seams like we were talking about, or
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: if the zipper has been inserted properly and feels really
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: sturdy and it's in there properly and not twisting.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: And okay, and what clothing item can you simply not
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: compromise on quality?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Denim? Oh, definitely denim.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: And what are we looking out for?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Like, what is a quality piece of denim to you?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I think one is buying denim from denim specialized brands,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: like you have your rollers, you're Levi's. The thing with
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that is that their factories are specialized in denim, like,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: of course you have your denim specialized factories in every business. Yes,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: they would use top tier denim factories, like with the
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: most expert people making your clothes, they would have the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: best access to denim machinery that you would need. So
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I would be buying denim from denim specialized brands.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: And you know what's slept on is buying direct from
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: those brands. So often Wrangler, Lee, Levi's rollers are stocked
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: in brands like Universal, Glue, General Pants. Right. However, when
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: you buy direct from those brands, because not a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: of people do the sales you can get direct from them.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: For example, Wrangler do forty percent off during sale events. Consistently,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Lee and Riders do thirty percent off sitewides consistently Levi's
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: just twenty five percent off site wide for click Frenzy. Like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: if you cut out the middleman and go direct to
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the brand, the gene that is the expensive gene that
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't necessarily shop with, actually comes down to like
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: a really affordable and good price point that you'd probably
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: spend full price for maybe one of the faster, fashion less,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: good quality gene prices that I'm like, I one hundred
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: percent agree. When you're looking at jeans, what's your thoughts
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: on one hundred percent cotton jeens and then genes that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of a lastain in them.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I think it's personal preference. Yeah, I don't think it's
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: to do with quality necessarily. Yeah, some people hate stretch denim.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I love rigid denim cotton, I hate stretched denim. So yeah,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that's just a personal preference. But my mum loves stretched denim. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's to do with quality or anything
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is like an old
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: wives tale, but when you're buying one hundred percent cotton denim,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: should you size down a little bit because when it's stretches,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: it doesn't it back depends how.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: You want it to fit. But yeah, yeah, cotton. The
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: thing with cotton is it will stretch out and yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: not stretch back that much. The retention of cotton can
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: be a bit tricky. Yeah, so yes, I would tend
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to agree.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, old wives tail and and wash on cold?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Do you put your jeans? Do you put your geens
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: in the freezer to wash them? Yeah? I don't because
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: there's no room. And I've exploded that many coke cans
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: in my freezer, like I always put a can of
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: coca in their being like, oh that was dinner. I've
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: done it this morning on my oops. Yeah, I used
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: to do it all the time.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And your gens smell like freezer chemically, no freezer, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's not it's.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Not nice like washless. I think definitely you can spot clean.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: We saw some research from Business Dasher that showed that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: sixty four percent of Gen Z and millennial consumers prefer
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to shop online rather than in person. Do you think
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that more people are likely to buy bad quality clothes
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: because we are shopping online more so we can't see
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: those details in person?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: One percent, myself included. I tried to start a little
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: series on my TikTok is this is what good quality
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: looks like online edition, because it's so hard to tell.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Even for me, the amount of returns I do is
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: ridiculous because I'm like, oh, this is shit. But I
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: think the things to look out for the most is
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: you should have so much information, like the more information
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the green at the flag for me, the less information
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: in your descriptions about the fabric or anything like that
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: red flag like right. And the thing about the imagery
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: is obviously the brands can can show what they want
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: to show in their imagery. So if they've cut costs
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: on the lining, they're probably not going to photograph that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: What are your top five brands that balance good quality
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: with affordability?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I always like start with a little preface. STONI, Yes,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: we love a disclaimer because that's true. It's because you
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: get something at a disclaim a disclaimer. So my disclaimer,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: who is that brands use a multitude of factories. They
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: don't just have one factory that they work with. So
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: they'll have their dnim factory, they'll have their woven's factory,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: they'll have their knits factory, their swimwear factory. So these
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: factories that do different things that are specialized in that thing.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: So don't like they'll have really good swim weear knits. Absolutely,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: it's all make sense.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: So maybe their denim factory is really specialized. They have
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: a really a plus denim factory with great quality control,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: great machinery, et cetera. But maybe their woven's factory that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: does their shirts is a little bit more inexperience generally,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: like not too inexperience, but yeah, a little bit inexperienced,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: and maybe don't have the machine to do a certain
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: stitch or something. So maybe the quality of their shirts
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: is a bit shit. But their denim's great. So it's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: really hard to make a general I get it asked
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: all the time, like what's your favorite high quality brands?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And it's so hard because it's hard to make a
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: generalized statement. But what I guess I could say is
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I actually really like Glasson's denim.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I think their denim's great for the price point. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: think they use recycled cotton. I think their construction methods
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: are great, the level of wash that they get in
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: their denims gray, and I think the color fastness is
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: good so it doesn't fade really fast. I think Unicloniate ware,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: which was spoken about, is a plus. And I actually
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: really like Nude Lucy's linen. I think it's really dense
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and heavy weight. They have a really great linen, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: in my experience working with linen, it can be really
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: expensive to increase the weight and density, so they do
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: such a good job. That's what comes to mind.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: And then for me, would you say Jackets Vintage Vintage?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I really like Country Road and Cause, but not as affordable,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: but they never let me down in terms of their construction,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: especially Country Road. Their fabric choices are amazing and Vican woods.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: They even have like manufacturing in Australia, which is just
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: so impressive in this climate.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: But and those last three brands, you can also get
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: through Meyer and David Jones, who very often do sales
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: and discounts. So I think that's yeah, I love a depop. Yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: and like look out for warehouse sales as well. My god,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that's been probably my favorite thing this year is I've
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: gotten into warehouse sales obsessed. But we also wanted to
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: play save or slurge, So we'll give you a different
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: item and then you tell us whether you should save
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: your money and go the more affordable route or splurge
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: and it's worth your money.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: This has got catllacs.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also it's general general advice, save or
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: splurge denim.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Splurge especially, like I said, with the denim brands, they
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: are specialized in what they do, so absolutely spurt.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: What's the max amount you would spend on a good
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: pair of denim jeans?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Three hundred more? Like, if I'm buying like a Goldie,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I would buy them. Okay, what are they five hundred? Yeah,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I would do it yeaheah.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Alex found the best pair of a Goldie jeans for
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: me in a Vinnie's for fifteen dollars and they were
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a more crop style so that actually fit me like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a glove. Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the thing. I didn't give them to her
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: straight away. I tried them on and they were too short.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was like, you fucking going in she
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: put them on. I was like, but I was glad
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: that one of us got got it. Yeah. Faux fur.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I I would spend up to three hundred dollars I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: think on faux fur. So I guess splurge. Yeah, I
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: think the really cheap ones are look like plastic. Yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and I guess it all is plastic because it's faux fur.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: But I think as you go a little more expensive,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the brands use a higher quality of faux fur because
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you can have higher quality or lower quality of anything.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: So I think I would splurge on it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, save or splurge faux leather or swayed.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Same as fur. I think I probably would spend three hundred. Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I would gri vintage first, but I guess splurge again,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: like the cheaper ones, they're just shiny, and especially with Swede,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: it's just a low quality Swede. It just looks like
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: it just collapses in.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like fluffy.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, and it looks fluffy, like almost flity.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Save or splurge.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: White T shirt, a plain white T shirt.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Save. I love the uniclor white Tea's my gosh, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: everes and tea. That's what I'm wating today, twenty four
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: ninety nine. In the men's section, Save or splurge. Nitwear splurge.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I would rather buy no nitwear for the season and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: save up a whole year than to just buy a
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: cheap knit.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, love it And active wear.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: No, I think there's some good save. I think there's
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: some good cheaper alternatives on the market that I even
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: wear a pilates in my hot in the hot room
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: and it's not see through and it washes really well,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: So I would save.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Do you have any go to active wear brands for affordability?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I really like cotton non activewear. I think it's good.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I would love to know your thoughts on
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: the new direction people are taking on buying direct from warehouse,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Like we're seeing the rise of direct from warehouse with
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: like multiple factories coming on TikTok after Trump's tariffs and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: being like where the factory for Lululemon, which I'm like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're allowed to do that. Yeah,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: but also like people buying and the rise of like
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: cult growth of Sheen and Timu. What are your thoughts
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: on this.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: The factories coming out and saying they're the supplier for
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: hind brands. I call bullshit on that. There's so many
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: contracts in like IP and things like that that need
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: to go in in the process. So I just do
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: not think in my opinion, that is true. Even working
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: in the industry myself, everything is so like you keep
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: it a secret like you.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Can't under contractionally.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a cool bullshit. Even when you're buying I
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, like a tank air dupe on Ali Express
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and it's the same fabric composition and everyone's like, oh,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: found the tank Care supplier. The thing about that is
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: that it's not the tank Care supplier, And the fabric
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: composition could be the same, but the weight might be different,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: or the finish or how it's been knitted, the density
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: of the knit and things like that. So there's so
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: many things that go into it.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bush on it. And I do think there is
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: this thing where people sometimes think they find the warehouse
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: or the factory because they'll be on team, for example,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Ali Express and they're like, oh my god, I found it.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I found it. But I'm like, I also do think
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: often and sometimes these factories are just copying the product
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: they've seen it go viral, and you can get misled
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: into thinking you've found the supplier and you're getting it
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: for unit price. But also as we've done like our
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: own products, and the only reason the unit price is
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: that is because you order in certain quantities.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't make sense.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: And again this isn't my job, but it doesn't make
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: sense for them to be selling at a unit quantity
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: and them just holding the stock.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So in my mind, surely it's got to be shitter quality.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the reason why brands get things at a
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: small unit price is, like you said about Zara, they
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the volume. So I'm like, it doesn't it doesn't line up.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: So just again, I'm not going to shame anyone on
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: what they want to do or how they spend their money.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I know we're in a cost of living crisis, but
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I just don't want anyone getting misled by thinking they're
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: hacking the system by entering their fashion by error, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: they're not, and they're not getting the quality that they
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: think they are.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And to wrap up, what is your biggest life lesson
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: so far?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is so easy is be positive. It's so
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: not related to anything.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I really pride myself on.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Being a positive person, and I feel like it's better
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: for the people around you, it's better for yourself. And yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: definitely that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: We were absolutely so excited to have you on Black Boy.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: We love the word.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: If the chicks aren't following you already, chicks get on it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Where can they find you?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I'm on TikTok. I don't post on Instagram and I should.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I need to get absolutely.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to set you some KPIs and check in.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get the chickens to follow you over there.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Put some pressure on. Yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Just Katerinea, Riley, c Ate.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: And we'll make sure we link your accounts in the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: show notes because Kat's going to start posting on Instagram.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're going to kill it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on the show.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. And thanks to your chicks for
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: having us in your earhels.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: You know we love to be here.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: And thank you to Producy for having us today. Bye
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: cheek bye,