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It Ends with Us by Colleen Hoover - RYLE is VILE, this is NOT a Rom-Com! · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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  Hi friends, you're listening to Lose the Plot with Carla and
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  Emily in this episode we're reading It Ends With Us by
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  Colleen Hoover. We are.
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  Talking about the entire book. So warning there will be
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  spoilers. I'm Carla and it's fine.
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  Lots of people want to fuck me. I'm Emily.
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  When he was wiping that cow shit on me it was quite possibly the
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  most turned on I have ever been. What part?
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  Of the book was that I thought we were going to have to fight
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  for that one, really. Yeah, Cow.
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  Shit, it was when Atlas was doing her garden for it.
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  Museum passed it. Thank God for me because I only
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  had one clue. Before we dive into the heart of
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  today's episode, we have a Naked truth for you.
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  Now pop on your florals and get ready for the episode I'm going
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  to the cinema to get. Triggered.
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  Just go watch a romantic ROM gong.
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  Just. Casual ROM gong.
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  I've got two points I need to make first.
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  OK one I'm a Kong Hoover hater. This Carla has been begging me
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  for like a year. Not begging when I say begging.
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  Casually mentioning it every. Couple yeah, not like Ryan level
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  of begging also. I want to know how, now that
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  I've read the book, I'm not going to watch the movie.
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  Fuck that shit. I feel like her being 23 is so
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  important. Yeah.
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  And it's literally the pivotal. Point, it's the most important
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  plot of that entire movie and then aging her up so they can
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  just put Blake Lively and it was a shit show.
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  Secondly, it shows his power over her because he's older,
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  established, and I feel like that is the most important part
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  of the plot and they were just like Nah, Blake Lively, it's
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  more worth it. Yeah, obviously neither of us
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  have seen the movie and we're going to flat out refuse, Flat
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  out refuse. Give more money to this
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  franchise. So let's get to the trigger
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  warnings. These are from
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  booktriggerwarnings.com. Abusive relationship, alcohol
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  abuse, cancer, childbirth, depression, domestic abuse,
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  graphic infertility, pregnancy, rape, sexually explicit scenes,
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  suicide, brief discussion and violence.
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  So romantic. Yeah.
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  I know, just pop on your florals, gals, you can't just
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  have a glass of rose. Rose and.
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  Watch this movie. So Colleen does it again,
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  obviously. How is this one the most popular
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  book of hers? They're not good.
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  But I'm. So sorry, I'm so sorry, but how?
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  Why are you telling me? I know it's a DV book, but why
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  is it marketed as a romance when there's no fucking romance in
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  it? Money, money, money, money.
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  There's no there's nothing. If anything it's a cop out
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  because at times they literally just time gap it every 5 pages.
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  They wanna get those movie tickets in because the book
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  versus the the PR promotion of the movie.
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  It's two very different things. Just ridiculous.
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  Not the first chapter being the hottest mess that I've ever
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  read. Oh.
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  My God. I don't know where to start with
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  that first chapter. Okay, pissed because you're
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  telling me she had a hard on for a man who was throwing a tantrum
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  out of a fucking chair? Why was she one up on the roof?
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  Fine, but she watched this man flop around like a toddler
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  kicking a chair in which she was like, you know what, I'm going
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  to fuck him one day. Literally no.
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  You know what? She saw him arms first.
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  She saw those biceps and went. I'm taking you home with me.
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  She's like you, really. Fucked up that chair.
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  He's smoking pot on a rooftop, kicking into what did she call
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  it? Like a polymer grade?
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  I don't care what it's made out of, Colleen.
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  Go and get a therapist grade assessment A.
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  Grade therapist please. Why do we have to be?
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  Why do we talk about the material of the patient?
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  It feels like it's important to note that she's 23.
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  She's not 30. A 30 year old would look at this
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  bitch, at this man and be like he's a bitch.
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  Let's be honest and be like. This is the ickiest.
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  Had your violence so sexy? I was just.
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  I'm like to an inanimate object. Talk to the patio chair in duty,
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  Sir. Also, I feel like a patio chair
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  would be the type of chair that would fight back.
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  Like I feel like it would bail on you.
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  I'm like, you fixed the wrong thing babe.
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  It bounces back. Just punch the wall you fucking
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  weirdo. Oh.
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  OK. That's after a joint or was that
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  before the joint? That was before the joint.
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  OK, but he didn't even know she was there.
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  The ick I would give myself if I just did something like that in
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  public and then realised someone was there, I'd be like.
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  I once had a random mini tantrum in the gym and I thought I was
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  alone and people. Walked, but they walked in from
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  where the door but from the outside world, so they didn't
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  see the tantrum. I hope not.
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  You're safe. He was like, you can't tell me
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  he wasn't more than two metres away.
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  She practically saw his eye colour in the dark.
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  And then she was. Like get off that ledge.
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  I'm thinking about pushing you off.
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  That's what it was. Wasn't for her safety.
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  Loki. She sounded super suicidal
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  though, like. Suicidal.
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  Anti suicidal. I know there's nothing like
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  mental health being completely fucked up in the first chapter.
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  True, because he was like get down and she's like Nah, I'm
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  comfortable. She's like.
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  I'm. Good pigeon.
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  I'd start pulling a pigeon from then on out.
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  That would be the inside joke. I'd be like OK Pidge, Pidge on
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  the ledge. Oh God.
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  But no, straight up this man was blunt as fuck.
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  For what reason? He gives me the IK.
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  What were the initial naked truths?
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  He was just like the first. One was like, you know what the
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  first one was? I can't remember because it's so
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  trash. The first one was his excuse for
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  breaking up a chair because he has 30 years of trauma he's
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  never fixed. But he's so vague with it.
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  He's like, I saw someone die today.
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  And Loki? She had just spoken at her dad's
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  funeral, so she could have said the same thing.
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  He didn't ask, he just assumed his day was worse.
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  Why are we surprised? What kind of conversation is
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  this to a stranger though exactly.
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  Her internal monologue even before he entered the scene was
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  so disturbing. She's so insecure from the get
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  go. She's 23.
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  She's like, I tried to clear my throat so that this man knew
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  that I was even existing in a space and I feel unworthy, like
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  you just saw his biceps relax. I could just throw.
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  Him a bunch of fucking shit if. Anything I'd be like sneaking
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  out the back way. Not like, am I worthy?
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  It's giving, you know, when you're like sitting on public
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  transportation and you're like, the man's going off.
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  And you're just. Giving like am I worthy of him?
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  The random man barking like a dog on poet trends more.
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  Like. Will he ever notice me?
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  Oh that's right, they were teasing each other.
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  No, he was teasing her about her name and they were saying how
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  God awful it was. Facts.
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  His name is Ryle. Bitch, you're in the same boat.
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  Stop acting like. His.
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  Is worse than hers. Yeah.
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  Least hers is human name. Yeah, Ryle.
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  Sounds like a cleaning product, don't you think?
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  Oh, I just, I don't, OK. I don't understand.
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  It's like I've got so many. I've got so many thoughts
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  running through my head at once over this book and it's insane.
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  So I'm sorry in advance, but who?
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  Who made this book? And.
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  And was like, this man's attractive, the amount of.
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  Comments. Sorry.
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  I've seen and they're like, I feel bad because I like Royal.
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  He's got nothing going on for him.
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  He's got biceps, he's got no personality.
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  The naked truth thing reminds me of I Wolf.
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  You. From you I know it gives ick,
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  but it also gives excuse to be an asshole.
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  But only on his side, because when she has to tell the naked
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  truths, it's her admitting things to him.
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  Or else or else you're going to. Get bashed literally though.
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  Dead ass. Here's a like.
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  Hot Tapes, How laughs are coming from a place of trauma.
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  I know, but here's a like hot takes, like Oh my God, not the
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  audacity of a man. And then hers are like, tell me
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  or I'm going to strangle you again, bitch.
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  Oh, that's the difference. You know what I mean?
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  Like here's a like little zesty. Friday night.
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  With wine, cheese. Yeah, literally.
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  And then hers. He's like I farted yesterday, I
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  bottled it for you. Her name is Lily.
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  What was her middle name again? Blossom, bloom, Lily, blossom.
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  Bloom, Lily, Blossom. Bloom, Lily Blossom.
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  Bloom. Also.
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  OK, how did they get onto this? Is their first talk ever?
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  Yeah. Why is she like fun fact I lost
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  my virginity to a homeless guy. Like OK, put that on your hinge
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  prompt. Ohh like I feel like you need to
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  clarify that girl. But also, did you just like
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  dehumanize this quote UN quote love of your life?
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  Exactly. So now he's just some homeless
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  guy on the public transport barking at you like a dog.
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  Nah. And then we're back full circle.
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  She's full deranged because there's a point where he says
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  something and she goes. He doesn't consider me most
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  people. He just met you.
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  You're no one. You're nothing.
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  Babe, nothing. Calm your little baby heart
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  down. Calm it down.
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  Who heart away? The fact that he even looked in
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  her general direction and made eye contact, she was like.
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  It was quivering. Quaking.
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  Wet, but the way that. She thought that that was like a
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  fun fact. Babe, what?
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  And also she cannot tell me that she has fucked another man at
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  all. This is I know.
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  So why? Also what?
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  Just why I don't even ask you to ask.
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  You could have just said you had like sex in a supermarket or
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  something. But he didn't even ask.
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  She volunteered that information.
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  There was one time when I was like 18 and I went up clubbing.
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  This is relevant to the homeless and a girl I met I went up
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  clubbing with for the first time.
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  It was the one time I didn't go up with Carla too and she
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  made-up with a homeless guy and I was like, I'm never doing this
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  again at. The club.
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  Outside. So.
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  He was near like a food shop and she just made it out with him
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  while he was sitting with his. Like little swag, yes.
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  So do you think she brings that up whenever she meets some guy
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  with biceps? Oh, look at you this one time.
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  I've been, I just. I don't even like how do we?
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  Begin. She's a weird bitch, OK?
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  She's one of those public over sharers.
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  I'll meet someone brand new and just dump the most crazy shit on
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  him. I just don't understand his
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  logic either. It would have made more sense
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  for her to go. I just did the shittest eulogy
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  ever at my daddy's funeral. That's a trauma dump I could get
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  feel. Like, he's seen a young girl
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  sitting on the edge talking about how she slept with a
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  homeless man, vulnerable, very clearly, easy to take advantage.
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  And he was like, you know what? That's the girl for me.
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  Yeah, and then he practically had a bent over the fucking
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  patio time in five seconds flat. And then he was just like.
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  You know she felt fireworks when he was like, I want to fuck you.
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  Ma'am, have you not left a building ever?
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  Like any man on the street is going to say those exact words.
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  Any Well, apparently she's a drug.
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  Every time she was warning him straight up how his naked truth
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  was. I only do one night stands so do
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  you want to be one of them or what?
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  Or should I just fuck off this rooftop?
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  And then things started getting heated and she was like, I don't
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  know how to say no to his buzz. She's like, what?
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  Just brush my bra let. My little training bra.
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  Oh no. Why a free?
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  And then of course, because he's a neurosurgeon, obviously,
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  hello, he gets a phone call that he has to.
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  Scrub up, scrub on him. Scribbled.
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  Out of here, scribbled up overtime.
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  He's leaping high. Report him, bitch.
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  I feel like he's only had a chance to have one fucking
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  inhale and then he's on this bitch and then he's like, well,
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  that was my evening. And then he's and then he
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  doesn't even exchange phone numbers or anything.
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  He's just like, well, I didn't get to stick it in, catch you
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  never. Catch you never.
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  I'm just going to take a photo for next time.
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  Oh, OK. Is she OK?
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  Because he's pulled her shirt up?
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  Is she just lounge on the chair? Tit out?
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  Wow. So that wall, that hate.
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  Con. That picture on the wall is just
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  her nipple blown up just like that's a really nice.
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  Ariel No. But you know what?
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  You know what, though? If any fucking person took a
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  photo of me lying down in a fucking patio chain, you know
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  this. This is a man.
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  It's honest photo, it's got pigeon shit all over.
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  It you know that I'm looking like Jabba the Heart, I'd be
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  like, I would chase him off that rooftop.
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  I don't care. I don't care about his biceps at
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  this point. It's on.
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  I'm killing this man. He has photographic evidence of
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  me on a pigeony shit rooftop, fucking tit exposed, fucking
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  trying to wear trying to like I'm wearing the funeral clothes
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  for my dad's funeral. You know she sat in pigeon shit
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  at some point. You know the angles aren't
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  angling. No, but like, this guy's
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  desperate because he even says he's never.
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  He doesn't like anything in the sex department.
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  Oh, OK, But love doesn't appeal for him because it's a burden.
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  And then he just takes a picture and leave.
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  Memorable. Memorable.
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  You know what though? She told him which apartment
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  building she lived in straight out the gate.
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  That's how. Before they even talked about,
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  before they even kissed her anything.
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  This. Is how I know Colleen Hoover has
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  never experienced much because a woman would not go outside and
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  give some random man her address, no.
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  Illegally not. And they hadn't even talked yet.
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  He's like, oh, I'm on this rooftop because I wanted to get
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  some fresh air. I literally live just if you go
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  down the stairs and go left and then go right and then go around
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  that block and then I'm in that exact building.
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  I know if some random man asked me where I'd live I'd be like I
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  actually live 2 states away I live in.
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  Canada. I'm not even Australian.
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  Yeah, I'd be like, I'm British. I'm on holidays.
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  Duh, duh. I don't.
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  Understand any of her attraction because we get to the second
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  time he meets her and he goes, I'm very attracted to very
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  attracted. There's not much about you I
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  don't like, but I don't like how much I think about you, which
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  isn't much at all. This is a.
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  Smidge. It's just a bare minimum.
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  I just look at your tit on the way out to work.
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  So she decided, oh, after this talk with a stranger, I'm
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  suddenly inspired enough to follow my dreams and open a
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  flower business. I feel hockey.
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  It was like 3 months after or something.
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  The time they make it seem so easy to just start a business
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  from scratch, have it in a physical location.
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  Delulu. She already has at least one
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  employee, one delivery driver. The employee doesn't even matter
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  because she doesn't pay her. Because she's too rich.
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  She just wants a hobby. How nice she.
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  Sprains her ankle and then the employee's like, oh it's cool,
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  I'll just get my partner and my brother to come help.
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  And it just happened to me a while.
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  Of course. I mean, and then he's just
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  trying to literally rub his Dick on her foot.
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  Yeah, at that point. Elisa walks back into the room
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  and he's like, I really want to fuck you.
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  And then she'll Lisa's just like.
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  What the heck? Sorry.
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  About my Oh my God I feel like her reaction wasn't even big
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  enough if I did ask with my brother sexually harassing
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  someone in front of my. Face.
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  I'd be like, how do you expect to be on the medical board?
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  Like how do you expect to have? He's a license, this is.
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  Interesting people you've just met.
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  Alyssa pisses me off anyway because how many times she tried
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  to literally warn her? Like further down she tries to
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  warn her and then Raoul comes and stares her down and she's
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  visibly uncomfortable as Lily puts her and doesn't say a word.
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  Tell her your brother's psycho you're not a friend.
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  But conveniently, he doesn't have relationships, so I feel
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  like Lisa feels like she has no reason to be.
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  Like, you know, oh, he did this with his ex-girlfriend, blah
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  blah. Because no, you know he was
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  beating the shit out of his sister when he was growing up.
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  If this is a 26 year long trauma.
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  And also, it's really weird how she employs this girl and then
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  they both instantly have this. We're best friends now.
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  It's like that's. Well, Snow, you're like, well,
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  this girl is helping you set up your shop and you're just going
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  with it. Not even trust this person.
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  Not. Only that she met her for like
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  half an hour. Yeah, she sprains her ankle and
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  then gives her the keys to the shop.
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  You don't know who she is. She could start a whole like.
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  Drug den, you know, but I think they just wanted her to have a
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  best friend character. But it's like at least put a
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  back story that she didn't know that they was his brother, like,
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  and they actually formed a friendship.
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  But yeah. Coho.
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  Isn't going to put effort in. Oh no.
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  To any of the relationships. That's why we have so many time
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  gaps. I know I'm just like they OK so
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  cool they're instantly best friends Insta love.
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  Twice. OK, like that's not happening.
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  Sorry. And yeah, they make it seem way
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  too easy to just start a business from scratch.
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  It sounds like she's never even in the florist shop.
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  Where is she? How is she?
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  What money? What money is she doing this?
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  And the only customer they ever talk about is Ryle, who was the
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  first physical customer. I mean, they apparently have one
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  busy day. But you never hear about running
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  the shop. No.
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  Any She's never stressed about the shop, just never stressed.
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  Not a problem. Not even.
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  It's not even. Really telling me that many
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  flowers. I just don't get why it doesn't
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  come up in the entire book. Isn't that a point of?
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  This is what I mean. There's no point.
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  It just is a time gap and we're like, oh, she's successful now.
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  I know it's just like, okay. Okay, he stalks her down to her
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  apartment and then he's on the ground begging to have sex with
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  her. You know for sure.
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  If she said no, he would be flopping around on the floor.
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  He knocked on 29 doors, OK. To fuck her.
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  Oh, sorry, he in his mind, he's like.
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  Please I did all the work I. Did I did everything?
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  I could have just messaged my sister to ask where you lived.
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  He did. Everything but Google search her
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  name. Just why are you turned on for a
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  man who's on his knees begging? It's embarrassing.
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  It's embarrassing. She gets off on it.
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  She's like I I enjoy it, but like.
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  I just not enjoy it. She's like I.
• 21:46
  He's on his knees for me. Okay, get over it.
• 21:50
  You know how you look up them videos, the girlfriends find the
• 21:53
  guy cheating and they're crying, They're throwing their arms and
• 21:55
  legs, and I thought that would have been him.
• 21:58
  Literally. If she said no but his.
• 22:00
  Excuse and it wasn't even I want you so bad.
• 22:02
  I think you're so hot. It was like I need to prep for
• 22:07
  my exams. So can I just stick it in your
• 22:10
  couple pumps because that's who you are, a flashlight?
• 22:15
  But he he like she's turned on by this man who goes I'll never
• 22:18
  think of you again. I only need once.
• 22:19
  Yeah, just a one and done deal. Here's my problem, I don't want
• 22:24
  a victim blame, not for the abuse, but for her being a dumb
• 22:28
  bitch. Oh, 100%. 100% let's pretend the
• 22:34
  last half of the book is not there.
• 22:35
  I feel like he definitely if he was not a neurosurgeon he would
• 22:38
  have been like immediately moved into a house doing drugs in her
• 22:42
  apartment, stealing all her money.
• 22:45
  She would have been a police like a bum.
• 22:47
  He's a skids bum like Atlas. Kidding, He.
• 22:51
  Gives me the egg. Too.
• 22:52
  No, they're both bombs in my mind.
• 22:56
  Wild just happens to have brains.
• 22:58
  Question I Enough brains to go to university?
• 23:02
  Atlas also pisses me off. So how are you 18?
• 23:05
  Understandably, you're a bit dumb.
• 23:07
  You're a bit stupid, but you ask a girl when she's 16 and then
• 23:12
  ask her if she's ever been kissed.
• 23:14
  You know enough that you shouldn't be doing it, so why
• 23:17
  the fuck are you doing it? So waiting for that age of
• 23:20
  concern, baby. I just like sitting on the
• 23:26
  couch. I was like, you're stupid too.
• 23:28
  She never had a chance in life. You know what?
• 23:31
  Just before we move on from him begging, flopping puss.
• 23:35
  Can you imagine? OK, I know the economy's gone
• 23:39
  down the toilet. Yeah, I know that.
• 23:42
  I'm aware. Can you imagine, though?
• 23:44
  Even in this economy, a neurosurgeon begging for a crumb
• 23:47
  of pussy, He's giving very much. Can't afford a sex worker an
• 23:51
  imagination? Just pay a sex worker and use
• 23:55
  your brain brain to pretend it's her.
• 23:57
  Yes, stupid. Go lick her titty pic on your
• 24:00
  wall like a normal person and leave her that pic alone.
• 24:03
  Wait, like I I cannot suggest this enough.
• 24:08
  Go, go. Buy a fleshed light and I don't
• 24:11
  know what you want to do. Fucking put some fucking zoom up
• 24:14
  that titty, stick it on that. I don't know what you people do.
• 24:17
  Leave her fucking sicker lights, go get one of those real dolls
• 24:22
  and just make it look like her or some shit.
• 24:25
  Then you never have to speak to this woman again.
• 24:27
  You you don't even like. Her.
• 24:31
  She doesn't like her. She's young, inexperienced, 23.
• 24:36
  He's begging for what though? Nothing's so disgusting to me.
• 24:41
  When he's begging on the ground for her like the weenus he is,
• 24:45
  he's like, I'm really good at it.
• 24:48
  You'll barely have to do any work.
• 24:50
  Oh cool, that's what we want to hear.
• 24:52
  Yeah, but when they have sex, that's amazing.
• 24:56
  Missionary 1/2 pump. 1-2 pump you couldn't even finger bust
• 25:01
  her like calm down. Rough stuff.
• 25:04
  You tell him you got these magic hands and you couldn't even use
• 25:07
  them. No, because he's probably got
• 25:09
  his hands up going. Oh, I can't risk it.
• 25:11
  I can't risk it. This is my career.
• 25:13
  This is my income. He's like, we've got to wrap him
• 25:14
  up, wrap him up. Can we can we talk about how
• 25:20
  Atlas even rejoins her entire brain because she didn't fucking
• 25:26
  think about him until she physically.
• 25:29
  Started nine years you're. Telling me she's acting like she
• 25:36
  if she cares this much about Atlas, she could have done one
• 25:38
  Facebook search these entire 9 fucking years.
• 25:42
  But she only cares because Rile's in the picture and she
• 25:46
  physically sees Atlas and goes oh he's a waiter, he's a waiter.
• 25:50
  OK, let me just dig up all my childhood journals to refill
• 25:53
  things about him. She's like he's, but it's fun.
• 25:56
  I've got a neurosurgeon at home. Do you reckon that's just?
• 25:59
  Playing on her weird homeless fetish, maybe because she's
• 26:03
  like, oh, he's just a waiter and I have this like, neuro such a
• 26:06
  boyfriend. Well, they weren't even dating
• 26:08
  at that stage yet. She just saw him and went, Oh
• 26:11
  yeah, that guy that I'm supposed to have a fucking marriage
• 26:13
  packed with and I was supposed to move to Boston for.
• 26:16
  Oh yeah. Like you, she moved all the way
• 26:18
  to Boston anyway, and she still was just like, you know what?
• 26:20
  She like didn't ever. Blamed him.
• 26:23
  Literally. And then she's like, let's dig
• 26:27
  up all these Diaries so that I can feel hurt by the heartbreak
• 26:31
  all over again. One heartbreak.
• 26:34
  There's no cap between 16 and 23.
• 26:39
  It's such trauma, brain. The fact that she wrote her
• 26:43
  journal entries addressed to Ellen DeGeneres was really aged
• 26:48
  badly. I want to support you guys, just
• 26:58
  knock you off your. Nuts.
• 27:01
  She would not give a fuck. She'd be like OK, stay homeless.
• 27:05
  And then when she was describing the episodes that they would
• 27:08
  watch together and that I was like, why is this 16 year old
• 27:13
  watching daytime TV? It's for your mom.
• 27:18
  Like what? As if if I had a boy over.
• 27:23
  What the fuck we. No one wants an Ellen.
• 27:26
  Babe, this is not happening. Oh God.
• 27:31
  I tried to skip through them dire entries.
• 27:34
  They were just long winded. They were weird.
• 27:37
  We get it, you've never had an intention from a boy in your
• 27:41
  life. So you're right, to a lesbian
• 27:43
  who doesn't know that you exist, who if she met you in real life,
• 27:48
  she would probably be like. I want if I go to like 23 and I
• 27:55
  was like I used to have these Diaries that I burn them.
• 27:59
  I would not read them, no. It would give me the egg burn
• 28:03
  them burn. I was like, where is this book
• 28:08
  going? You never know.
• 28:11
  Is this supposed to be relatable or something?
• 28:14
  No. Oh.
• 28:15
  OK, I don't know. People like this book.
• 28:19
  But there's no romance. There's this weird shit.
• 28:24
  Also, Lily decides because she's seen Atlas as an adult now, she
• 28:28
  decides she needs to have closure from the Atlas situation
• 28:33
  so that she can fully commit to dating Ryle.
• 28:35
  Ma'am, the expiry date was like that relationship eight years
• 28:42
  ago. I made one.
• 28:48
  Promise to this guy. Stop being so loyal you dumb
• 28:52
  bitch. I don't understand what the
• 28:54
  loyalty is for. A good old trauma bond.
• 28:57
  That's what it is a trauma sex bond Virginia.
• 29:00
  You know how like when you lose your virginity, you're supposed
• 29:02
  to really fall in love with the man you've?
• 29:06
  You know what I'm talking about. That's what I mean.
• 29:08
  That's what happened. So like Santa Claus and the
• 29:11
  Easter Bunny, they're all totally.
• 29:14
  What are you saying? Totally real concerts.
• 29:16
  What are you saying? Moving on.
• 29:21
  OK, so they don't have sex after he's on his knees begging,
• 29:24
  right? He falls asleep.
• 29:27
  Sorry, I just remembered how sad that is.
• 29:30
  People. And then he just leaves because,
• 29:31
  you know, he's a busy, busy man, but she's in love with him.
• 29:35
  She doesn't see him for 60 days or something.
• 29:39
  It was his busy period, OK? He had exams and shit.
• 29:43
  I know, but like. He couldn't Chuck her a text.
• 29:48
  Exactly. He left again without getting
• 29:50
  her number. What's?
• 29:51
  Having that sweet, sweet sleep. Her bed's happy.
• 29:54
  Apparently he can't sleep without her.
• 29:56
  He's only met her twice at this point.
• 30:01
  He used to pick me too. You can't tell me otherwise.
• 30:04
  This is what I was struggling. With because I'm so in love with
• 30:07
  each other and I was like, you have met for two hours on three
• 30:11
  occasions. You know what he really loved
• 30:14
  how she was just a quote UN quote cool girl.
• 30:17
  She had 0 expectations, 0 standards, 0 boundaries,
• 30:21
  nothing. No confidence.
• 30:22
  She had the just the bare minimum.
• 30:25
  She's just a pussy and he's like.
• 30:28
  It's almost. Like 1 for me.
• 30:30
  It's almost like she was perfect to manipulate.
• 30:32
  Oh, it's almost. Like she's just.
• 30:35
  It's almost like 23 was an important plot to the movie they
• 30:38
  should have kept. Exactly.
• 30:41
  She goes to elicit so the next time she sees him I don't.
• 30:45
  I can't remember. It's a blur.
• 30:46
  I think it was a whole Heba Allen stories between that.
• 30:49
  But she goes for Alyssa's party with her gay best friend.
• 30:53
  Oh, come on. This is how misogynistic and
• 30:57
  like the toxic masculine. Wow.
• 31:02
  I'm so ready to fight him. This is how toxic he is.
• 31:06
  He looked at Devin and was like, you could tell from reading it
• 31:09
  this man was gay and he looked at and he's like, and he's like,
• 31:12
  you bring a date. How dare you, you watched a man
• 31:17
  Chuck another tantrum, throw a glass of wine in the bin, and
• 31:22
  then you chase him up to the rooftop to give him some fucking
• 31:26
  weird declaration of love, which is also I hate.
• 31:30
  He did. All said, I only want to root
• 31:32
  you once and she has the audacity she.
• 31:36
  Ran upstairs and I was like he gave her.
• 31:39
  Flowers before that party. So in his mind, she's not.
• 31:42
  She's locked in. No, but my problem with this is
• 31:47
  it's not like he unpromptly gave her flowers.
• 31:50
  He walked in the shop and I think it was her or her sister
• 31:53
  was like, you're not accustomed me.
• 31:55
  You have to buy flowers. And then he was like, OK, I'll
• 31:57
  buy else. Yeah.
• 31:58
  He didn't come up with that on his own, no.
• 32:00
  She still owes him. Oh.
• 32:02
  Yeah, yeah, It's a bouquet of flowers, Emily.
• 32:04
  That is true. Practically, your first date at
• 32:06
  this stage it's. Practically a drink at the bar.
• 32:09
  Literally. Literally that means P&V.
• 32:11
  It's. It's a soft P&V.
• 32:17
  It means that she's dating him, but he's still fucking around.
• 32:20
  That's what that means, yeah. So he takes one creepy picture,
• 32:24
  sends her one flower, doesn't send it to a flower.
• 32:27
  OK, not even to a house. He.
• 32:29
  Didn't even to lilies too He he exactly she's like, oh, he
• 32:33
  didn't pay for they were lilies and he's like they were just the
• 32:36
  closest ones there babe. He didn't even pay for delivery
• 32:39
  because he's a fucking Scrooge of a neurosurgeon and just left
• 32:43
  him on the bench. She doesn't actually know where
• 32:44
  she lives for real. For real.
• 32:45
  He just. Into an object spread to a
• 32:48
  house. Yeah, he doesn't actually know.
• 32:50
  Sorry. You're doing impromptu guasha on
• 32:54
  your face just out of frustration.
• 32:57
  I feel like I'm ripping my skin off my face and then she's like,
• 33:01
  you flirt with me. The first time you met him was
• 33:03
  for fucking 10 minutes. The second time was for 10
• 33:07
  minutes. The third time he begged on your
• 33:10
  floor. Yeah, like.
• 33:11
  He's instigating good. No, he's instigating it though.
• 33:15
  But apparently her just being receptive is her actively
• 33:20
  flirting. I.
• 33:21
  Just. And that means you owe him.
• 33:23
  That's how his brain works. Because we're just, you know.
• 33:28
  I just want to know who they were trying to convince that
• 33:31
  this man is. It's a sexy, hot neurosurgeon
• 33:34
  that I'm supposed to froth over and then be sad about.
• 33:37
  No, he was giving mentally for. Literally.
• 33:41
  Anyway, he runs through the party.
• 33:43
  Sorry, sorry for the shoulder. And he's like, I can't sleep
• 33:46
  without you. I've only met you three times,
• 33:49
  but I'm calling the police. The love of my life.
• 33:53
  She's like, just don't have sex with me.
• 33:55
  That's how you prove to me that you are the one.
• 33:58
  I'll. So they make out a lot the next
• 34:02
  day. Alyssa's like, oh, when did that
• 34:04
  happen? And she's like, I don't want to
• 34:05
  come off as lovestruck because I'm lovestruck.
• 34:08
  The tops. You've had 30 minutes worth of
• 34:10
  conversation in six months. Who who's doing this?
• 34:16
  I don't. It just doesn't make.
• 34:17
  It But then that's when Alyssa tries to win her and she's like,
• 34:19
  I know my brother, he's a. Hoe.
• 34:22
  She was like uncomfortable. She's like, I just know my
• 34:24
  brother and I love him, I really do.
• 34:25
  But and then he walks in. Yeah, well, she's.
• 34:30
  And then she's been. Comfortable.
• 34:31
  He's not good at relationships. I didn't think she was saying
• 34:35
  that, but. She was going to say someone
• 34:37
  else. I feel like she was going to be
• 34:39
  like, he's psychotic. Wouldn't you kind of like, just
• 34:42
  cut him out of your life if you were a Lisa?
• 34:45
  Yes, somehow. So Raoul comes in and she goes
• 34:48
  as her friend. I have the right to give her my
• 34:50
  opinion when it comes to the guy she dates.
• 34:52
  That's what friends do. I'm suddenly feeling
• 34:54
  uncomfortable as the tension goes stick up between the two.
• 34:57
  Raoul doesn't even take a sip of his coffee and he gets right up
• 35:00
  in Alyssa's face. It's like there's never ending
• 35:03
  red flags. Yeah, there's never a happy,
• 35:07
  stress free moment at any point. When he's involved.
• 35:10
  No. I just think it's funny how
• 35:12
  Ryle's been essentially banging everyone since the dawn of time.
• 35:16
  Banging everyone but. She's actually the one guy from
• 35:19
  nearly a decade ago. I really had to get closure on
• 35:22
  that now because I met someone for 5 minutes.
• 35:26
  It's like Ryle doesn't give a fuck about you, no.
• 35:29
  And the only reason he was at the restaurant with her and her
• 35:34
  mom anyway is because he's forcing himself into her life.
• 35:38
  And she doesn't see I feel like. He has had girlfriends, he says
• 35:42
  he doesn't have girlfriends and he does the same shit every.
• 35:45
  Time and I reckon he just doesn't tell the meet the
• 35:47
  sister. Yeah, they just probably just
• 35:49
  don't meet her so he can carry on this cycle.
• 35:52
  And he just forces himself like, there is no need.
• 35:55
  This is the fifth time you've seen her for 10 minutes, and
• 35:59
  you're already meeting her mother.
• 36:00
  Well, she's like. Oh my God, he actually wants to
• 36:02
  meet her. Amazing.
• 36:05
  And then, of course, her mom's frothing like, Oh my God, my
• 36:07
  daughter's set up. She's dating a neurosurgeon.
• 36:10
  I don't have to worry about her. The poor mom, you know what I
• 36:15
  was. And this is where my respect
• 36:17
  just left the building. So I was actually feeling glad
• 36:21
  that Koho for once had both of the main characters mums not be
• 36:27
  problematic. Yes, because they were actually
• 36:29
  both supportive and not. You know how they always make
• 36:31
  the older female characters just evil?
• 36:33
  Yes. So her mum, obviously the victim
• 36:36
  of a lot of domestic violence from her dad, was just nice,
• 36:40
  supportive, wanted Lily to have a business, was really proud of
• 36:43
  her for having a relationship with hold up blah blah blah.
• 36:45
  And his mum was nice. She calls him every day, she
• 36:49
  says oh, I can't wait to meet Lily blah blah.
• 36:51
  I was like, not too unproblematic.
• 36:53
  Moms. Yeah, I.
• 36:55
  Was so surprised but then everything else she did in the
• 36:58
  book pissed me off. I honestly felt not domestic
• 37:01
  violence wise for her mom. I felt horrible for her for
• 37:04
  that. But the way Lily didn't even
• 37:06
  want to fucking spend time with her mom that is so supportive
• 37:09
  and literally would do anything for her.
• 37:11
  Until she needed her because she didn't respect her.
• 37:14
  Like she forever didn't quite understand her mom until it
• 37:18
  started happening to her. Yes.
• 37:20
  And then she realized and was like, oh, I resented my mum.
• 37:25
  For no reason, but also when that stuff started happening,
• 37:28
  she left a good six months in between talking to her mum.
• 37:31
  She. Probably didn't want to hear it.
• 37:33
  You know how people are delulu in the bombing stage?
• 37:36
  Yes, and they do not want to actually hear people point out
• 37:39
  the red flags. I feel like her talking to
• 37:42
  Alice's friends with a turning point for that.
• 37:44
  Mm hmm. In my mind 'cause they were
• 37:46
  normal dudes and they've called it out for being shit and not
• 37:49
  justified it. Which is that fair?
• 37:51
  Her mum has justified it nearly her entire life so.
• 37:54
  Also, it was like a different generation.
• 37:56
  I feel for her mum. Yeah.
• 37:58
  Didn't she leave the dad eventually?
• 38:00
  No, she stayed with the dad and he died of cancer.
• 38:03
  That's right. She was just worried about
• 38:04
  ending up in a shelter, which is a real.
• 38:06
  Problem so and you're going to be fucking poled.
• 38:09
  Yeah, and then you've got to deal with this man who's a mayor
• 38:12
  because her dad was a man. And she didn't have any income.
• 38:14
  Like the mum didn't have a fucking career to fall back on.
• 38:18
  Well, I feel like she did because.
• 38:20
  She was never home. I thought she was staying home,
• 38:22
  Mom. No, because she was sneaking
• 38:24
  Atlas into the house every afternoon.
• 38:26
  That's right. Well, she could have done
• 38:27
  anything. She could have been like an
• 38:29
  admin lady at the fucking Yeah, true, that is worse and making
• 38:32
  absolutely fuck all. You know what I don't
• 38:35
  understand? They kept explaining this bar
• 38:37
  that you can go to, you wear a onesie and you get free beers
• 38:40
  all night. What kind of business?
• 38:42
  Model is that also, can we take a minute?
• 38:45
  Marshall and Rye are pieces of shit for that because you are
• 38:49
  both fucking rich and you're taking advantage of a business.
• 38:53
  But that's the. Business's fault.
• 38:54
  Why would you? Maybe one free beer at the start
• 38:56
  of the night because you're wearing onesie?
• 38:59
  Yeah, but why would you have it all night?
• 39:01
  Because. Remember, they were pissed
• 39:02
  because maybe Elisa wanted a wine or something.
• 39:04
  And they're like, no, you're drinking beer because it's free.
• 39:07
  OK, scabs. That's what I mean.
• 39:09
  How are you this scabby? And you're both rich.
• 39:11
  Actually rich. Almost.
• 39:13
  In that same conversation, she goes, Marshall, you made $6
• 39:15
  million this year. But I suppose they make money
• 39:18
  through food and probably people getting drunk on beer and then
• 39:20
  they get drunk up with spirits and you know.
• 39:23
  Yeah, but it is expensive these days anyway.
• 39:25
  Yeah, I feel like Koho wrote this in the early 2000s.
• 39:30
  It doesn't feel like it's a 2020.
• 39:32
  Four book at all. She's reading her Ellen stories
• 39:36
  again and she misses a couple messages from Ryland.
• 39:39
  She gets really pissed at herself.
• 39:41
  She's like, I can't believe I've missed these messages.
• 39:44
  How are they even about? They were like, are you awake?
• 39:47
  And then he goes. I'm 20 seconds up your stairs
• 39:50
  anyway. Like just chill, baby doll.
• 39:52
  But then she's like looking at him and she's like, I get to
• 39:56
  look at his face all the time because he's mine.
• 39:59
  So that night he's like, I'm so tired.
• 40:01
  I just want to sleep in here because.
• 40:03
  You know I can only sit with you even though they've known each
• 40:06
  other for two fucking days. She's massaging his hands and
• 40:09
  he's like, you're the best thing that's ever happened to me.
• 40:13
  She goes, we've waited long enough, it's time to have sex.
• 40:19
  Clock up the time, girl, that you've known each other for.
• 40:21
  I know it's not even 224 hours. She's like, I've held him off
• 40:27
  long enough, I've had it. And then?
• 40:28
  She warns him she's like, now remember, I'm a drug.
• 40:33
  I'm addicted. It's like this pussy bee.
• 40:37
  Poppin. She's like.
• 40:39
  She's like magic cooch. She's like, that homeless boy
• 40:42
  broke up with me and he didn't even try to contact me once.
• 40:46
  So you know this pussy bee poppin, it's like, bitch, what?
• 40:51
  That's the evidence everyone's addiction to her.
• 40:53
  And then she's like, I had a boyfriend for six months in
• 40:56
  college and meant nothing. Oh, was.
• 40:59
  She I thought it was only Atlas and only.
• 41:01
  Royal No, she she's 6 month year old, six month year old, six
• 41:09
  months long. Relationship.
• 41:11
  I mean, that was zesty, but she's like crack.
• 41:16
  She's like crack girl. I don't know.
• 41:18
  OK. This man has hyped himself up.
• 41:22
  She's gone. Five months ago, he told me he
• 41:24
  was the best thing at sex. I barely have to do anything.
• 41:27
  He. Yeah, he does no fool play.
• 41:30
  No, he puts it in. I'm assuming they just use the
• 41:32
  moisturizer on his hand at this point.
• 41:34
  I'm pretty sure they used a condom.
• 41:36
  They did use a condom. Yeah.
• 41:39
  Wild you didn't know and she was like you know I had.
• 41:44
  This is the best sex I've ever had.
• 41:46
  He literally pumped in you 4 times.
• 41:48
  No for playing, no you're laying on your back doing nothing.
• 41:52
  No for you girl pillow Princess that shit up.
• 41:54
  But this just goes to show her 22 year old no experience
• 42:01
  thinking this is the best time ever.
• 42:02
  I don't think she came. You can't convince me that was a
• 42:07
  good time. No, when they're having sex
• 42:09
  another different time, just why in these kind of books are they
• 42:14
  always getting a call or a voicemail from a family member
• 42:18
  right in the middle of sex? So he gets this voicemail from
• 42:20
  his mom, He's talking about it. She asks him about his dead
• 42:24
  brother right then and there. Like have they?
• 42:27
  They just stopped pumping 5 seconds ago, you know.
• 42:30
  What I think that's the time that it could have been a really
• 42:33
  sexy scene because he had it. Didn't he have these little?
• 42:36
  Scrubs or whatever. And his scope and he was like
• 42:38
  doing her heartbeat and everything and was like, you're
• 42:40
  not even close to where I. I can't remember which sex scene
• 42:44
  it was. It was.
• 42:45
  What? The one in her office?
• 42:46
  So they were in her office. He was using his scope in his
• 42:50
  scrubs. He pumped in her a couple of
• 42:52
  times, pretty sure no forward play again and then he's
• 42:55
  cleaning her up while listening to his mum.
• 42:57
  Yeah, on speakerphone, it's like way to kill the moon.
• 42:59
  But then immediately after after awkwardly trying to talk about
• 43:03
  the brother, they just immediately bang again and it's
• 43:06
  like bro. Yeah, so.
• 43:09
  They're all in their little loved up phase.
• 43:11
  He called her and she goes, oh. Ryle never calls me this must be
• 43:15
  important and he was like hi girlfriend and she goes hi
• 43:19
  boyfriend and I wanted to kill myself.
• 43:21
  Oh my God, no. And then right after this was
• 43:24
  the hand burning incident. So timeline for where they are
• 43:29
  at? For all of that too.
• 43:31
  It goes. He went from not wanting to do
• 43:33
  anything with the relationship to possibly agreeing to test
• 43:36
  drive on to meeting the parents. All in five days, Yeah.
• 43:40
  That's a quick turn around. That's almost abusive.
• 43:42
  That's. Psychotic.
• 43:44
  There's a point like before, I think it's right before the hand
• 43:47
  burning situation. Alyssa is not excited for her to
• 43:52
  date her brother. And I'm like, you know enough,
• 43:55
  you could have prevented everything.
• 43:57
  And then when they all go out to dinner, after the whole
• 44:01
  psychoticness of this man, she believes that she tripped over
• 44:05
  an olive oil and then he has a wrapped hand.
• 44:07
  Yeah, and this is when Lily was trying to convince him to go to
• 44:12
  another restaurant, right? Because it was.
• 44:14
  The bib, yes. Which is where she thought Atlas
• 44:17
  was a waiter and she's like, but then they insisted and she's
• 44:21
  like, whatever. Hopefully he's not there.
• 44:22
  He wasn't there until the very end.
• 44:25
  He pops around the corner, jobs go.
• 44:27
  He's the owner. Yep, he's like desserts.
• 44:29
  I'm coming over. We love a pregnant lady.
• 44:32
  And then he looks at her hand, yes, his hand, and looks at her
• 44:37
  head. Head.
• 44:38
  Why are you taking it out on your girlfriend?
• 44:41
  Because your dumb fucking ass put your hand in the oven.
• 44:46
  Yeah, it's kind of funny. Can we talk about the incident
• 44:49
  as it happened? Yes, because she was trying to
• 44:51
  warn him. She's like, you need pot
• 44:53
  holders. He grabs a thing out of the
• 44:55
  oven, drops it and it's like holy fuck or whatever.
• 44:59
  And then she's hysterically laughing because she's drunk
• 45:02
  deep at least. And she's like hysterically
• 45:05
  laughing, like as a reaction. Kind of thing.
• 45:07
  See, some people laugh when they're nervous.
• 45:10
  And she was drunk, so she. Was nervous, drunk, she thought
• 45:13
  it was funny. She's like fuck this mess, this
• 45:16
  is supposed to be a good night and it's just fucked.
• 45:18
  I don't know what he hits her. He shoves her completely to the
• 45:22
  ground. She doesn't remember the moment
• 45:24
  of impact. Because she's.
• 45:25
  She's just looking up, being like, huh, what just fucking
• 45:27
  happened? Yeah, I was just looking up a
• 45:29
  mess. I think she's got her head on
• 45:32
  the way down because remember, they had to lean up her head so
• 45:35
  she. He almost could've killed her,
• 45:38
  essentially. Yeah, Yeah.
• 45:39
  Because. She wasn't expecting it either.
• 45:41
  He was mad at the moment because he was screaming like I need
• 45:44
  these hands. These hands are bro.
• 45:47
  She is a person. She's your skin, babe.
• 45:50
  Also, you're a grown ass man. Have you never taken anything
• 45:54
  out of the fucking oven before? Not her fault you can put an
• 45:57
  oven Mitt on, it's not that hard.
• 45:59
  Your hand isn't in advice my bro, it's the skin. 5 seconds
• 46:03
  later, suddenly when he's realized what he's done, he
• 46:07
  goes. I don't care about my hand, I
• 46:09
  care about you. Bitch.
• 46:10
  What? That wasn't the case 5 seconds
• 46:12
  ago. So when he's saying sorry for a
• 46:14
  right well before he's like, God damn it, Lily, it's my career.
• 46:19
  She they have sex immediately after because you know, he's
• 46:22
  apologetic, a love bombing sense, but she goes.
• 46:25
  I spread my legs for him and he sorry comes in another form,
• 46:28
  slow apologetic thrust inside of me.
• 46:31
  That is the most rancid thing I've ever heard in my life.
• 46:34
  How do you know that the thrusts are apologetic?
• 46:37
  And then of course he goes I'm in love with you because you
• 46:40
  know he's a piece of shit. Thank God we don't get the anal
• 46:46
  to love pipeline. Because that would have been
• 46:48
  robbed. That would have sent us over
• 46:50
  that pigeon edge a long time ago.
• 46:53
  Thank fuck if Coho did that to us.
• 46:56
  She's aware enough that, and this is what really frustrates
• 46:59
  me, but you know, that's how abuse works.
• 47:02
  So it's quite normal reaction. But even in the restaurant, he
• 47:06
  lies to his sister and goes, she slipped over an olive oil when
• 47:10
  he was saying it was an accident, never happened again.
• 47:12
  If he had to tell his sister that you tripped over olive oil,
• 47:15
  that should have been the point. And.
• 47:17
  That's your best friend too, yes?
• 47:20
  And so Atlas obviously being a complete idiot and trying to
• 47:24
  just fix it in the man way locks her in the toilet in the
• 47:29
  restaurant when he didn't even speak to her properly that other
• 47:33
  time. Like he didn't re establish
• 47:35
  contact. No, they.
• 47:36
  Haven't been speaking walks her in that toilet and it's like
• 47:39
  what's happened to you He's like you need to break up with him
• 47:42
  bitch. She didn't even say anything was
• 47:44
  wrong. Not.
• 47:46
  Only that if that's the case, her abuse is sitting literally 5
• 47:50
  seats away. Yeah.
• 47:51
  You're going to get her killed dead ass later.
• 47:53
  Like he caught them in there so. He could.
• 47:56
  Make things so much worse. But he caught them in there, he
• 47:59
  left. She was like, he didn't do this.
• 48:02
  They're in the hallway and then they start fighting in the
• 48:05
  hallway. The only thing she cares about
• 48:08
  in that entire conversation is him saying that's the homeless
• 48:12
  boy you pity fucked. Yeah, that's all she hears.
• 48:15
  None of the other shit. But of course, after all this,
• 48:18
  he's like, I don't want this, Lily.
• 48:20
  I don't want this stress in my life.
• 48:21
  You. Yes, now I know.
• 48:23
  It's like now it's a problem. I'm like the stress is you,
• 48:26
  she's doing nothings of the problem.
• 48:28
  She's not doing anything wrong. She's existing, she's going
• 48:32
  home, she's going to work. This random man locked her in
• 48:35
  the bathroom when she hasn't spoken to him in nearly a
• 48:37
  decade. That wasn't her idea.
• 48:38
  Well, OK. Also on top of that, why are you
• 48:41
  worried that she's locked in a bathroom with a man?
• 48:44
  Because you think she's a whore and not because a man locked her
• 48:46
  in the bathroom? Bathroom.
• 48:47
  Yeah. What if he's a stalker?
• 48:49
  What if he's psychotic and she's going to get murdered?
• 48:51
  Or. Raped.
• 48:53
  No, because you got to trust your Bros, Emily.
• 48:56
  It's bro code. I just.
• 48:59
  Know if I wasn't locked in the bathroom with a random man that
• 49:02
  my partner has never met and he came in there, he would probably
• 49:05
  knock them out. Not because he thought I was
• 49:09
  cheating. I know it's hilarious.
• 49:11
  She's the bad guy though, in all of it.
• 49:14
  That's just what you got to remember these women.
• 49:17
  They lie, they lie. They cheat, they steal.
• 49:20
  Because I watch your back, babe. This is where Cohort kind of
• 49:23
  annoys me because she kind of wrote it perfectly but also
• 49:25
  disgustingly at the same time. Like she missed the mark and hit
• 49:28
  the mark in other places 100%. And she's got the misogyny down
• 49:32
  path. It's like she.
• 49:34
  Almost got it perfectly and then she and then she ruins it.
• 49:38
  Almost. She romanticizes it a bit too
• 49:40
  much. Yes.
• 49:41
  You know what? At this point of the book,
• 49:44
  that's when I started telling myself to just keep swimming
• 49:46
  because I was like, I. Was like I wasn't even paying
• 49:51
  attention I feel like. I feel like why is there a lot
• 49:54
  happening but nothing at all? That's what I mean.
• 49:56
  There was no romance. Why are you trying to convince
• 49:59
  romance? You're trying to convince me
• 50:00
  this is a romance? Drama.
• 50:02
  It's Gone Girl at the least. They haven't spent 5 minutes
• 50:05
  together on top of all the weird icky shit Royal does.
• 50:09
  If someone said to me, I'm so excited to be your husband I
• 50:13
  could piss my damn pants, I would not get married at least.
• 50:17
  They skipped over because there's nothing I hate more than
• 50:19
  a wedding scene. So when they mentioned it and
• 50:21
  then they didn't follow through with making us like live through
• 50:25
  it, in it, I was like, oh good. Thank God.
• 50:28
  Fuck, because someone they're calling.
• 50:30
  Each other, wife and husband and I was like did I miss something?
• 50:33
  Yes. Before she got married, she's
• 50:36
  still generally reading her journals, Allah haunting out of
• 50:40
  line. Instead of just sitting there
• 50:42
  and reading it all at once. You do it gradually over the
• 50:46
  months that your relationship with Rodney.
• 50:48
  Take your you have free time, your boyfriend works 24/7.
• 50:53
  So anyway, so talking about Atlas, so as you mentioned
• 50:57
  before, he was 18, she was 15. Give me the best shaking up in
• 51:03
  her house together, right? Right.
• 51:05
  And then how disgusting is it when you learn that he was going
• 51:10
  to kill himself until he started a bit of light voyeurism because
• 51:16
  you know how you would see her and then be like.
• 51:17
  Isn't the most manipulating shit ever.
• 51:20
  He's like, oh a. 15 year old girl.
• 51:22
  Interesting he's. Like you know what?
• 51:23
  My wife is tied to you being interested in me.
• 51:27
  And he literally had a fucking razor blade to his arm.
• 51:31
  And then he saw her. He's like this child out of his
• 51:34
  bed. Oh, a child in her little sleep.
• 51:39
  Things I can't. Remember she was wearing AT
• 51:40
  shirt. She wore T-shirts and underwear
• 51:42
  to bed. And he's like, you know what?
• 51:44
  She's like this, no food. Child, my blood in my veins,
• 51:48
  actually. Actually, and then I'm just
• 51:50
  going to watch her every night. That's.
• 51:52
  Going to keep me alive, this virginal child.
• 51:55
  This virginal child that has never been kissed and I know
• 51:59
  just as bad. That's what I'm saying this
• 52:01
  ghosting when I I was like he's. Alright.
• 52:05
  I don't mind him. He's a bit icky.
• 52:06
  And then as soon as he was like, when are you 16?
• 52:09
  Have you ever been kissed? And I was like, oh, another one,
• 52:12
  another one. You know enough.
• 52:15
  You know enough that you know you shouldn't.
• 52:17
  He's practically. Going to the military next
• 52:19
  minute. She hasn't even had a Sweet 16.
• 52:21
  Yeah, babe. The night stand, this man, she
• 52:26
  goes for a shower, he's obviously going through a
• 52:29
  fucking phone. Which is just already in the
• 52:32
  reddest flag. Well, he goes, oh, I just
• 52:34
  dropped it and you know, the phone case fell off and then.
• 52:37
  Cool. And your password just
• 52:38
  magically. She's got she's got a full
• 52:39
  OtterBox on and like yeah, the passwords entered Atlas number
• 52:43
  coming out. He's throwing the number.
• 52:46
  She's just, he's throwing the night stand.
• 52:48
  He's fucking punching walls. He shatters her phone and then
• 52:52
  she starts chasing him down the stairs.
• 52:55
  I think so. And then he pushes her down the
• 52:58
  stairs, and then he's sitting there and he's like, you fell.
• 53:01
  She was concussed my guy. Why aren't they stop letting it
• 53:07
  to her face? But she was like, I didn't fall.
• 53:11
  And then. But he admits to it later.
• 53:13
  And then she's like, oh, well, when you feel this way, just ask
• 53:16
  for help. You ask for help.
• 53:22
  That's so true. Like.
• 53:23
  You know enough. Call an ambulance, but for me?
• 53:27
  She's so angry because I was like, you know, I know.
• 53:29
  She goes, I fell down the stairs.
• 53:32
  Call an ambulance for you. Do some self-care babe.
• 53:36
  Just get quick, get the guasha, babe, are you feeling angry?
• 53:42
  Quick, let's go get a face mask and a facial.
• 53:46
  Just. He's a neurosurgeon.
• 53:48
  You're telling me he can't afford therapy?
• 53:51
  How many times could this man have been?
• 53:53
  Like, I might use my employer assistance program.
• 53:57
  I've probably got it because I'm a fucking neurosurgeon and I see
• 54:00
  trauma every day. So how about I use my free
• 54:03
  therapy sessions? Yeah, to sort out why I'm
• 54:05
  beating up my girlfriend. He probably has access to
• 54:10
  something like that for free. Well, like, you know what pisses
• 54:13
  me off? Obviously now she's going
• 54:15
  through it. She's starting to understand her
• 54:16
  mom. She's still hateful to her mom.
• 54:18
  Yeah, but she goes. He should never have pushed me.
• 54:21
  But I've also done some things I wasn't proud of.
• 54:24
  What? Fucking turn the oven up to
• 54:26
  having. Atlas put his number in your
• 54:28
  phone dot dot dot. She you could have left it at
• 54:31
  work. She memorized it.
• 54:32
  Why didn't you throw it out? He was the one who put it in.
• 54:35
  Yeah, She forgot that he was in the contacts at all.
• 54:38
  Which was? An.
• 54:38
  Innocent mistake. But the poor girl was going
• 54:40
  through this thing where she's trying to justify his actions
• 54:43
  with her actions. So it's like you're literally
• 54:45
  not doing anything, you're just existing.
• 54:48
  She didn't even pick the restaurant that time.
• 54:50
  She was trying to avoid him. After the.
• 54:52
  Stare. You know, fight.
• 54:54
  Him pushing her down, him gaslighting her.
• 54:57
  That's when he opens up about his dead brother.
• 54:59
  Oh yeah And he starts fucking like pretending like that's
• 55:02
  relevant. And he's like, oh I, I was only
• 55:05
  6 and I literally fucking shot him with a gun, bro.
• 55:09
  There's more to this story. Than that but also Alyssa
• 55:12
  justifying he's like just cello. She'll understand why you pushed
• 55:16
  her down the stairs. And it was right after he did it
• 55:18
  too. Like he was suddenly opening up
• 55:21
  about his. And it's like, oh, that's
• 55:23
  convenient. Timing.
• 55:25
  Yeah, you're trauming timing on this poor girl to make her feel
• 55:27
  bad for something that had 25 years ago.
• 55:33
  And why did they go to Vegas if they live in Boston?
• 55:35
  Why would you go to the other side of the country to get
• 55:38
  married? Vegas.
• 55:39
  Wedding, I'm assuming. Why?
• 55:42
  You just do it as you go to the courthouse.
• 55:45
  I know. Rich people, I swear.
• 55:48
  After the gaslighting and all that, she turns around every
• 55:51
  time he starts hurting her, she turns into his counsellor and
• 55:54
  she keeps saying things like I know you're not a bad person.
• 55:58
  But this is where I feel like Coho nails it, because
• 56:01
  essentially that is what happens anyway.
• 56:03
  He trauma dumped and she's like Oh no, I.
• 56:07
  Feel so guilty. He hasn't spent a minute in the
• 56:09
  counselling room since though, No, since he was six years old.
• 56:12
  So it's like, babe, there's so much, there's like.
• 56:14
  Why do blaming your girlfriend for your anger issues, not your
• 56:18
  parents for having a gun laying around?
• 56:19
  Let's be realistic, they didn't even explain why there was a
• 56:22
  gun. It was in the garage or
• 56:24
  something good like and they'll all just pan.
• 56:26
  With a gun 6 year old have access to that.
• 56:28
  Exactly. And then they just.
• 56:29
  It's. England, mind you.
• 56:31
  And it's. Just orkies when they bring it
• 56:33
  up. Bring it killed him.
• 56:35
  Yes, you're a murderer. Literally.
• 56:40
  But like then what was he having a tantrum for on the roof if
• 56:43
  that's why he was having a tantrum?
• 56:45
  Because that little boy died that Yeah, wasn't it a surgery?
• 56:49
  That Yeah, but he just told his trauma story on that roof.
• 56:52
  Yeah, instead of SO. Did a little.
• 56:55
  Boy die for the same reason or was he just having a mental
• 56:58
  breakdown on the roof? And he was using that.
• 56:59
  It was about a brother losing his brother and being like I can
• 57:03
  understand. Turns out you should fucking
• 57:05
  shot him bro. It's not the same.
• 57:06
  Context. Yeah, They get into like a
• 57:09
  couple more fights between that. They don't really say anything
• 57:12
  about it. She just says I'm scared.
• 57:13
  I guess he. Didn't do anything to me.
• 57:16
  It's a testament to how well he's working on himself.
• 57:20
  And by then they were already very much enmeshed, living
• 57:22
  together. He had already bought the
• 57:24
  apartment. They went like shopping the day
• 57:26
  of furniture shopping. So why is this man moving into
• 57:32
  her home, her little unit that she had to pay rent with someone
• 57:36
  to live in, right? Yeah, because she probably
• 57:39
  couldn't afford it. At 23, his sis.
• 57:42
  He was living with his sister in a whole top floor apartment and
• 57:47
  he moved into a. And just yeah, he started just
• 57:50
  bringing his stuff. He.
• 57:50
  Moved in like a bum into her house instead of.
• 57:53
  So that she could have a man there if he had manly things
• 57:56
  around, she wouldn't be able to just have some guy over.
• 57:59
  Yeah. Because then he'd come in and be
• 58:01
  like, oh, you clearly have a boyfriend.
• 58:03
  Yeah, exactly. I think that was part of it.
• 58:05
  And then he just bought them a whole new apartment.
• 58:07
  Yeah, he's like, oh, fuck your feelings.
• 58:10
  We're going to move in next to my sister because that's exactly
• 58:12
  where we deserve to be. And then she was kind of happy
• 58:16
  about it. But also when she's on the like
• 58:18
  the first time they talk about him moving in, she's on the
• 58:20
  phone to her mum and she's like, yeah, I'm going to go fucking
• 58:23
  all night. I'm like shut.
• 58:25
  Up. It's your mother.
• 58:27
  Poor mom. Poor mom.
• 58:29
  Although she was very much like get a girl because she thought
• 58:31
  everything was fine. Yeah.
• 58:32
  Poor mom, can we talk about? So he's like casually wasn't it
• 58:37
  on his her fridge? OK, so the magnet's on her
• 58:40
  fridge. He reads the news article.
• 58:42
  It's award to her, award to Atlas.
• 58:45
  Atlas references her and goes. It's called bibs because it's
• 58:49
  better in Boston, which is what her magnet is.
• 58:53
  But that's not her fucking fault.
• 58:56
  It could have been anyway. It could have been her mum.
• 58:58
  She should have just said her mum bought it for her.
• 59:00
  But what does it matter if it doesn't matter ages.
• 59:03
  Ago. Exactly.
• 59:04
  It doesn't matter you're. Right.
• 59:05
  Like, it's kind of like. But.
• 59:07
  When was that given to her like? I'm actually when she's 15,
• 59:09
  that's. What I mean, so it'd be
• 59:11
  different if he gave it to her today because they met up on a
• 59:15
  date? Yes, but it's from when she was
• 59:18
  a teenager and she still had it and he put the two and two
• 59:23
  together and was like losing it. And he read all her Diaries and
• 59:26
  she's not allowed to be angry about that for an hour.
• 59:28
  And he's like speed reading just.
• 59:30
  Remember Alyssa had they were just at the hospital because
• 59:33
  Alyssa had a baby. Yeah, she goes.
• 59:36
  I got home an hour after him so. What she took a How did you find
• 59:40
  him? Well too also.
• 59:42
  Why? She's got a lot of content in
• 59:45
  there. You literally a whole journal
• 59:48
  where she's talking about her dad beating the shit of a mom
• 59:51
  using a knife to try and the one thing you got out of that was
• 59:55
  that she kissed the boy at 15. Exactly, she did talk about
• 59:59
  making out a lot, but she didn't even talk about the sex and he
• 1:00:02
  knows that she they did it anyway.
• 1:00:04
  Who cares? He knows she did it, yeah, but
• 1:00:07
  it's not like it was amazing sex.
• 1:00:09
  They had sex and then her dad beat the shit.
• 1:00:11
  Out of him, yeah, literally with the baseball bat and he.
• 1:00:13
  Like Window, she's traumatized from it.
• 1:00:15
  It wasn't a great experience for her.
• 1:00:18
  This is when the book takes any Oh, it's psychotic.
• 1:00:21
  How did you feel reading it? Because when I read it I was
• 1:00:24
  like this is. Heartbreaking, I think because I
• 1:00:27
  was listening to it on like triple speed.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah. I was just getting it out.
• 1:00:31
  It was going. Pretty fast because it was full
• 1:00:34
  fucking psychotic. And he uses that naked truths
• 1:00:37
  thing against her. He uses.
• 1:00:38
  The naked Truth. But I feel like he used her
• 1:00:40
  journal entry against her because there's that journal
• 1:00:43
  entry of her dad trying to rape her mom.
• 1:00:45
  And I feel like he read that and was like, you know what?
• 1:00:48
  That's what I'm going to do. Yeah.
• 1:00:49
  So he's, like, pulling her hair. She's naked.
• 1:00:53
  She's going through the most horrific thing right now.
• 1:00:56
  He's. Hot.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, he's getting off on the fact that he's hurting her.
• 1:01:01
  So he's obviously psychotic and she's like, you're angry, please
• 1:01:05
  stop hurting me. But.
• 1:01:07
  He agreed to. By then, they already
• 1:01:09
  established that he's supposed to walk away.
• 1:01:11
  And she's like, please. But he was drunk too.
• 1:01:13
  He goes. I'm not angry, Lily, and I just
• 1:01:16
  think I haven't proved to you how much I love you.
• 1:01:19
  The thing that pisses me off about this?
• 1:01:21
  If you love her so much. You.
• 1:01:25
  Planned. It's not like he thought about
• 1:01:27
  that on the spot. No, he planned or he had enough
• 1:01:30
  to have time to plan this full of salt down the reasoning
• 1:01:34
  behind it. He gave himself a reason.
• 1:01:35
  He planned what he was going to do because he was already
• 1:01:38
  coaching her through it at the start but didn't think of the
• 1:01:41
  consequences. No, he.
• 1:01:43
  Totally trapped her gradually and when she inevitably fell
• 1:01:47
  into the trap then he's like now it's OK that I rape you.
• 1:01:50
  Yes, because this is the punishment you're having.
• 1:01:52
  The audacity to lie. She could have forgotten about
• 1:01:57
  the magnet by then. You never know.
• 1:02:00
  It could have been her roommate. She had a roommate?
• 1:02:02
  Yeah. But that didn't matter to him,
• 1:02:04
  it's just he would wanted to justify it to himself and he
• 1:02:08
  already decided, like he said, to do that.
• 1:02:09
  Yeah, I mean, like he sat there planted out, read a journal,
• 1:02:13
  knew where to hurt her the most. I'm actually glad that was the
• 1:02:17
  moment she was like fuck no. The way she described the
• 1:02:20
  aftermath of that rape was really like creepy because he
• 1:02:24
  was dead asleep obviously, and she had memorized Atlas's
• 1:02:28
  number, knew she couldn't call anyone else, had to call him
• 1:02:31
  quickly, whisper, then text him after and he happened to be
• 1:02:35
  available. Imagine if he wasn't there.
• 1:02:37
  Well I think it's like 3 in the morning because remember he head
• 1:02:41
  bites her because she bites the only tongue to get off her.
• 1:02:44
  Yep and then he's sitting there he's like Oh no he's crying.
• 1:02:47
  He's like but he wraps himself around her and she just stiff as
• 1:02:51
  a board just lying there and waiting.
• 1:02:53
  Yep, I could not think of anything fucking.
• 1:02:55
  Worse. Very scary, but I mean he might
• 1:02:57
  not have gotten that call or. Text.
• 1:03:00
  So I mean lucky he was there. He takes her to the hospital,
• 1:03:03
  not the hospital he works. At and then the nurses and that
• 1:03:06
  are asked, they're like, do you want to do a rape kit?
• 1:03:09
  And she's like, he's Korea. Fuck, he's Korea and also.
• 1:03:14
  It's hard to prove because if you are married like that, his
• 1:03:18
  lawyers could say we totally had consensual sex and she wanted to
• 1:03:22
  play often, blah blah blah. I think in that second book, I
• 1:03:24
  haven't read it, but I heard that he kind of uses that.
• 1:03:27
  He has a lot more money. Over her and he could probably
• 1:03:30
  afford better lawyers maybe. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he.
• 1:03:33
  Uses the fact that he could take MSN.
• 1:03:36
  So at this point they're freaking out.
• 1:03:38
  The nurses are like it's this Atlas and she's like fuck no
• 1:03:40
  it's not Atlas. But also why would you
• 1:03:43
  immediately believe her? Why would?
• 1:03:45
  You even. This isn't like victim blaming,
• 1:03:48
  but why would you pick? Atlas.
• 1:03:50
  And I know Elisa just had her baby.
• 1:03:52
  Call your mom. She didn't want to call her mom
• 1:03:54
  because she thought her mom would justify it.
• 1:03:58
  But she didn't. But no, she didn't.
• 1:04:00
  But. She was that you call, still has
• 1:04:03
  feelings for you and is the worst person.
• 1:04:07
  He's the worst. Partner, you can find out you
• 1:04:09
  know. What it is, I reckon he is the
• 1:04:11
  worst person to call. But she knew he would believe
• 1:04:13
  her. Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Because her problem through the whole thing was she didn't think
• 1:04:17
  her mom was going to believe her.
• 1:04:18
  She thought she was going to justify it.
• 1:04:20
  She didn't know if Alyssa was going to believe her.
• 1:04:22
  Probably comes down to the fact that every time she had an
• 1:04:25
  accident it was like she slipped over an olive oil.
• 1:04:28
  So this is this shows the importance of having friends
• 1:04:31
  that aren't sexually interested in you.
• 1:04:33
  Yes, you know what I mean? Like this is the importance of
• 1:04:35
  having other people in your life, and that's why abuses like
• 1:04:40
  this try to cut you off from everyone.
• 1:04:41
  Yes, because she knew how much of A risk it is to reach out to
• 1:04:44
  Alice and she still had to do it because he's the only one who
• 1:04:46
  knew the back story. Yes, enough.
• 1:04:48
  Thank God he's not an 18 year old predator anymore.
• 1:04:52
  It's. Like thank God they're adults
• 1:04:53
  now and this isn't taking advantage of the situation.
• 1:04:56
  What kind of is? Yes, I think he's still taking
• 1:04:59
  advantage of the situation. He could have went and put her
• 1:05:02
  in a hotel. Yeah, he just is safe.
• 1:05:06
  She just had some space from him because she didn't.
• 1:05:08
  Know what to do at the. Fucking hospital.
• 1:05:10
  She learned that she's pregnant, which doctors and nurses should
• 1:05:13
  be used to that, so I'm surprised they just dropped that
• 1:05:16
  on her. Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  They would. She was in a different way.
• 1:05:19
  She was 12 weeks pregnant, so they probably thought she
• 1:05:21
  really. Knew, yeah, but you'd never
• 1:05:23
  assume. No, you'd say it in a different
• 1:05:25
  way. So horrible bedside manner.
• 1:05:27
  Anyway, so she's figuring like, Oh my God, what I do.
• 1:05:29
  So she's just staying at Atlas's place, which is what he insisted
• 1:05:33
  to do. The next time she actually sees
• 1:05:36
  Ryle, he rocks up to the shop because she's tried to call or
• 1:05:41
  text her 29 times and she's just like, ha ha, the irony.
• 1:05:45
  But no. And then she's has to work alone
• 1:05:48
  in that shop. She's panicking, He.
• 1:05:50
  Comes in with duh, course he would, and then he just says I
• 1:05:55
  have to go to England for my thing and go home.
• 1:05:58
  He's kind of like, you can't, you can go home, it's totally
• 1:06:02
  safe. We need some space.
• 1:06:04
  There's no way the abuser would do that.
• 1:06:08
  There's no way he'd be. Chill, there's no way he'd be.
• 1:06:10
  Trying to lock her back in immediately.
• 1:06:12
  Yes, he would be in her space consistently.
• 1:06:15
  He's going overseas, he's going to be insecure as fuck that
• 1:06:18
  she's going to meet someone else.
• 1:06:19
  Yeah. Or is already dating Atlas.
• 1:06:22
  I mean, unless he knew he was knocking her up.
• 1:06:25
  I think he would really be trying to lock her in.
• 1:06:27
  There's no way he's going to peacefully go there and go, oh,
• 1:06:30
  cool, like go home. It's going to be fine.
• 1:06:32
  We're going to be away for three months.
• 1:06:34
  Yeah, that's where I feel like calling Mrs. the Mark and a lot
• 1:06:37
  of things, yeah. Just not believable.
• 1:06:41
  Someone who's been ignored 29 times, if they're that much of A
• 1:06:43
  narcissist, is going to be like about to murder you.
• 1:06:46
  That's exactly right. If he's threatening to kill
• 1:06:48
  himself if. He Well, yeah, true.
• 1:06:50
  If he's psychotic enough to do the shit he did to you, he would
• 1:06:54
  have murdered her. Yeah.
• 1:06:56
  There's no way she would be allowed to ignore him and he's
• 1:06:58
  going to calmly come into her work and say I'm going to be
• 1:07:01
  gone, let's take some space like a work.
• 1:07:03
  She owns, yeah. She's got no employees in with
• 1:07:06
  her. There were a lot of quotes
• 1:07:09
  peppered through the entire book and I'll point out too and see
• 1:07:12
  what you think about it. Throughout the book there are a
• 1:07:14
  lot of these excuses. This is where I think Koho
• 1:07:17
  completely lost the mark on this as a topic.
• 1:07:20
  It was sort of implying that everyone can just casually have
• 1:07:25
  bad morals or values or. I know exactly the one.
• 1:07:30
  So there's two, but there was a million.
• 1:07:32
  There are no such thing as bad people.
• 1:07:34
  We're all just people who sometimes do bad biddings.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah. What fucking horrible.
• 1:07:39
  No. And then she uses.
• 1:07:41
  So she uses that in the start when he's slamming a chair and
• 1:07:43
  then after abuse. And then the other one.
• 1:07:46
  I feel like everyone fakes who they really are when deep down
• 1:07:50
  we're all equal amounts have screwed up.
• 1:07:52
  Some of us are just better at hiding it than others.
• 1:07:55
  No, you're not. Did you kill your brother with a
• 1:07:59
  gun? No, it's also the one where
• 1:08:01
  she's just like I've done bad things too.
• 1:08:04
  Exactly what I think she misses the mark with this, but also
• 1:08:07
  shows how much Lily was groomed at the same time.
• 1:08:10
  So she's hitting it in the fact that she was groomed to think
• 1:08:13
  that that was acceptable just. Normalizing like everyone's this
• 1:08:16
  monster and something I can hide it better.
• 1:08:19
  What? No, that's not how it works.
• 1:08:22
  Not normal. People don't think like that.
• 1:08:24
  So anyway, he goes to England, which was my favorite part of
• 1:08:27
  the book because we didn't hear about him.
• 1:08:29
  Oh thank the Lord I didn't have to hear some random shit this
• 1:08:32
  man was saying either. And then she was pregnant and
• 1:08:34
  she goes because of the pregnancy hormones.
• 1:08:35
  I'm just going to wait until after I'm pregnant so I can make
• 1:08:38
  a decision about if we should get divorced or not.
• 1:08:40
  But she's like hiding her pregnancy.
• 1:08:43
  And then she finally tells Lily. This is one bit of the book that
• 1:08:47
  really pissed me off. Fucking disgusting.
• 1:08:50
  Don't ever do this to your friend.
• 1:08:51
  She tells Lily and Marshall what happened.
• 1:08:56
  Ryle comes back from England early early.
• 1:08:59
  He calls Marshall and it's like I need to talk to Lily, but
• 1:09:02
  don't tell Lily and don't tell Alyssa.
• 1:09:05
  So essentially help me trap my girlfriend that I wife that I
• 1:09:09
  tried to kill in a room and but it's OK because you'll be there.
• 1:09:13
  But they become. Possible that she was pregnant
• 1:09:15
  too, no? Well.
• 1:09:17
  She didn't tell her he seemed she was like 30 weeks at that
• 1:09:19
  point. She was a huge bitch by then.
• 1:09:23
  But why are you being complicit? I know you've known him for your
• 1:09:26
  whole life. If my friend if I told them in
• 1:09:29
  detail all the shit that happened and you would never
• 1:09:32
  hear from him again. I don't care if you're my friend
• 1:09:35
  or brother. Don't be fucking complicit and
• 1:09:37
  don't help an abuser get to somewhere.
• 1:09:40
  Like, just say he let it slip that he was coming home early.
• 1:09:43
  Yeah, I'd be fucking telling you immediately.
• 1:09:45
  Exactly. He's on the plane home.
• 1:09:47
  And let's get your shit out of her up.
• 1:09:50
  Yeah. Alyssa didn't because he didn't
• 1:09:51
  tell Alyssa it was just Marshall, but essentially pro
• 1:09:55
  code. And you know what?
• 1:09:56
  He goes, we're going to go in the bedroom.
• 1:09:58
  But if I start yelling and he's like, oh, come in.
• 1:10:01
  You didn't yell, dude. Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  None of them times you were yelling.
• 1:10:04
  No, you just acted out the rape time.
• 1:10:07
  You didn't yell at all. You were quite calm.
• 1:10:09
  That's the scary part. You're a really calm person.
• 1:10:11
  And Marshall, if you know enough that you have to bust into a
• 1:10:15
  room at a moment's notice, you know enough that your mate
• 1:10:19
  should not be fucking hanging out with a heavily pregnant
• 1:10:21
  woman. Yeah, you're going to let this
• 1:10:23
  really heavily pregnant woman go into a room she can barely sit
• 1:10:27
  up, stand, walk and. Then he was worried that Alisa
• 1:10:30
  would be pissed. Yeah, because she's not an
• 1:10:31
  idiot. He's like, Oh no, don't shoot
• 1:10:34
  the messenger. It's like bitch you shouldn't
• 1:10:36
  even be setting up this situation because if she dies.
• 1:10:40
  You've. Got to think about that forever.
• 1:10:42
  You're stupid. Fuck.
• 1:10:43
  Piss me off. Don't do that shit and.
• 1:10:46
  I don't know those hormones were doing something to that girly
• 1:10:49
  pop because she was being too nice to him when he decided he
• 1:10:53
  wanted to try and Co parent, but he obviously wanted to get back
• 1:10:55
  together. Yeah, so he's all like, I'll
• 1:10:57
  help you out around the house, I'll put the crib together and
• 1:10:59
  stuff. And then at one point she
• 1:11:01
  literally turns to him and goes, I know you wouldn't hurt your
• 1:11:05
  own baby, bitch. He killed his brother when he
• 1:11:09
  was six. Of course he's gonna kill.
• 1:11:11
  He's a child killer. If anyone's gonna do what, it's
• 1:11:14
  him. Just.
• 1:11:16
  But why? Why is that any different?
• 1:11:18
  I'm like, he nearly killed you babe, Why would he care about
• 1:11:20
  the baby? So he's when he does this shit,
• 1:11:23
  he's like, I just can't see past rage.
• 1:11:25
  He doesn't care who's get in the rage.
• 1:11:27
  I. Know oh.
• 1:11:29
  My God. Also I want to point out how
• 1:11:32
  fucking delulu this bitch is because OK not blaming her but
• 1:11:38
  it's so I'm not blaming her because I don't think she
• 1:11:43
  deserves a blame but I think Coho did some stupid shit in
• 1:11:46
  here. OK so she goes.
• 1:11:48
  I can't decide if I want a divorce because it's my
• 1:11:51
  pregnancy hormones. I've been pregnant bitch.
• 1:11:53
  They're not that fucking hormonal.
• 1:11:55
  Come down. She at one point she even
• 1:11:57
  realized she was making excuses to prolong the decision.
• 1:12:01
  And I was like, there we go. We're going close to the girly
• 1:12:03
  pop. Oh, we're almost there.
• 1:12:05
  Not only that, he stays in her apartment while she's due.
• 1:12:10
  And I'm like, do you feel safe with that is?
• 1:12:12
  The most dangerous time. That's why I feel like it's
• 1:12:16
  unrealistic because anyone in a DV situation like that, they're
• 1:12:21
  not having a fucking man in their house.
• 1:12:24
  He tried to kill you while you weren't pregnant.
• 1:12:25
  He's going to do it while you are pregnant.
• 1:12:26
  Yeah, it's way more dangerous when you are pregnant.
• 1:12:29
  Not. Only that not a single person
• 1:12:32
  going through domestic violence would tell a man you want a
• 1:12:36
  fucking divorce while he's holding your baby.
• 1:12:39
  Literally when the baby was fresh, the baby fresh.
• 1:12:42
  You're telling me he beat the shit out of you and you're going
• 1:12:45
  to tell him while he's holding your baby?
• 1:12:49
  No one does that. And you know what it makes?
• 1:12:51
  Me, you know. Worry.
• 1:12:52
  She went into labour and she was on the phone to the other
• 1:12:54
  employee that suddenly she has that I never knew existed.
• 1:12:57
  I was like, who are you? Yeah, Lucy, her roommate.
• 1:13:00
  So she was on the phone. She's like, Oh no, my water
• 1:13:03
  broke. I feel gooey because misogyny,
• 1:13:06
  internalized misogyny. So I'm going to go have a
• 1:13:08
  shower. She had already like text trial
• 1:13:10
  and called him and been like, you got to come back.
• 1:13:12
  I fucking wet myself. And then he's speeding back
• 1:13:14
  because he was ducking off to work.
• 1:13:16
  And then she's naked in the shower.
• 1:13:19
  The water had just broke. Yes.
• 1:13:21
  And it all just sounded like a horror movie.
• 1:13:24
  He like runs in. Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  I'm like and she was like trying to cover her boobs and stuff.
• 1:13:30
  Like you said before, that man wouldn't be in my house exactly.
• 1:13:34
  And being that person call. His sister.
• 1:13:36
  Why? Wouldn't your mom be living in
• 1:13:37
  the apartment while this is happening?
• 1:13:39
  Exactly you told. My mom, she told.
• 1:13:43
  Her mom also, it's not realistic for this man to take a day off
• 1:13:47
  of birth. He's not doing it any other
• 1:13:50
  time. Cigars after work.
• 1:13:52
  Just like her mums a secondary grade teacher.
• 1:13:55
  She could have came and slept on the couch.
• 1:13:56
  Literally. You would do the nursery though.
• 1:13:59
  I'm sure she has leave. She'd be like, my daughter's
• 1:14:01
  having a baby. Everyone be like, cool.
• 1:14:03
  See you when like fucking. I mean, it's America, so they
• 1:14:06
  don't really get. Leave.
• 1:14:07
  Oh, call in a sickie. Call in your rich sister-in-law.
• 1:14:11
  Upstairs, literally. That was so unrealistic.
• 1:14:15
  Then of course, they get to the hospital and all that, have the
• 1:14:17
  baby and then she's like light bulb moment, let's divorce when
• 1:14:20
  they're in the room alone together.
• 1:14:22
  But from experience, your hormones are worse after birth.
• 1:14:26
  You're not making sense. After birth you don't suddenly
• 1:14:29
  have clarity. No, they're doing studies that
• 1:14:32
  it takes 2 years to get your like grey matter back.
• 1:14:35
  That makes a lot of sense, eh? Let alone making immediate life
• 1:14:39
  decisions when you're just your cooch isn't still dilated.
• 1:14:42
  I'm like, there's a whole plate, the coal and you're.
• 1:14:46
  Open I'm. Like they just.
• 1:14:47
  Pulled. The placenta out and you're
• 1:14:49
  making life decisions. You're like, don't mind the
• 1:14:51
  placenta, Don't look at it. It's.
• 1:14:52
  Taking a little tug. Tug.
• 1:14:54
  The worst thing is that's all the worst.
• 1:14:57
  No, the whole situation. Oh, I don't People who are
• 1:15:01
  stressed, don't they usually their birth goes forever.
• 1:15:04
  She's worried about the water. That shit dribbles for hours.
• 1:15:07
  The trauma, the trauma, but. It was just so quick.
• 1:15:11
  It was a whirlwind baby. It was practically slipping and
• 1:15:15
  sliding out of that. It literally break danced it
• 1:15:18
  right there. It's like I've got that movie
• 1:15:20
  here. Where it does the whole spin
• 1:15:22
  out. I'm just trying to get out of
• 1:15:25
  that coochie, but we're trying to run away from the dad
• 1:15:27
  already. It comes out like running down
• 1:15:33
  the fucking hospital. He's.
• 1:15:34
  Like the baby's like I've heard fucking everything.
• 1:15:37
  Bitch, the baby's like I'm not wasting anytime.
• 1:15:43
  Someone adopt me, foster me out. Oh.
• 1:15:49
  I want to break freeze. I just hate this man so much and
• 1:15:54
  I hate Atlas. I hate.
• 1:15:55
  Lily You know what though? What kind of abuse that goes?
• 1:16:00
  OK, I respect that decision, Lily.
• 1:16:03
  Let's just mutually break up. It's.
• 1:16:06
  Fine. OK, I think he was banking on
• 1:16:09
  the fact that he is too trapper. Two things I want to add to this
• 1:16:12
  shit. Why?
• 1:16:13
  Why would I forgot one point? So it's probably only one point.
• 1:16:20
  Why would you name your daughter after your abuser?
• 1:16:25
  There's fucking millions of names on that list.
• 1:16:28
  Call that blossom at least. Jesus Christ.
• 1:16:31
  Do you mean the surname Well? No, her name.
• 1:16:34
  The baby's name's Emerson, after his brother.
• 1:16:37
  Yeah. Why?
• 1:16:38
  So it's the she's not. She's not naming the daughter
• 1:16:43
  after the abuser. She's naming the daughter after
• 1:16:46
  the abusers victim who got violently fucking shot.
• 1:16:50
  She called it fucking Dory elasticity.
• 1:16:54
  I've heard a complaint about her name in the 1st chapter and then
• 1:16:58
  do this shit. And guess what?
• 1:17:01
  Emerson was the grown man's name from that other book we read
• 1:17:04
  that I was already filthy about, so at least this makes more
• 1:17:07
  sense because it's a little girl.
• 1:17:09
  Remember how I said? It's a 7 year old girl's name,
• 1:17:12
  so just just for Emerson. Story on that, I forgot the
• 1:17:15
  second one. Why would you call the middle
• 1:17:18
  name and name of the bitch? You're offended that your names
• 1:17:24
  Lily Blossom Bloom, but you decided Emerson Dory is better,
• 1:17:28
  Orlando Bloom and Katy Perry's baby Daisy.
• 1:17:30
  Bloom or something that's not even that bad Ferrell, but still
• 1:17:34
  chart CPS. CPS I'm going to pull up real
• 1:17:38
  quick. When they realize you called me.
• 1:17:41
  You're kidding. The name of a fucking dead
• 1:17:44
  child. Fucking fish.
• 1:17:47
  Also, why it just? Doesn't get it after this.
• 1:17:50
  Shit, but one's named after. Ryle and 1's.
• 1:17:53
  Essentially named after Atlas. So say you don't exist then
• 1:17:56
  bitch, say that you don't fucking Maradi and just call her
• 1:18:00
  Lily. Sure, since.
• 1:18:06
  We're talking about fish. Oh no, I don't even just.
• 1:18:15
  Are you even a person? Really.
• 1:18:16
  The thing that shits me off about this book?
• 1:18:18
  It's a roller coaster. Right you go shit, shit
• 1:18:21
  character. These are fucking.
• 1:18:22
  Ridiculous. This is the.
• 1:18:23
  Shittest thing I've ever read. Then you feel guilty because of
• 1:18:26
  all the abuse and you're like, no, because you're like in the.
• 1:18:30
  Start. I'm like, I don't.
• 1:18:31
  Want to victim blame her but she's a dumb bitch.
• 1:18:34
  I'm like 100% he's icky. He's disgusting.
• 1:18:36
  Atlas. Is icky and.
• 1:18:37
  Disgusting. She's stupid.
• 1:18:40
  I believe it though. For a 23 year old, that's when I
• 1:18:42
  yeah, I do. I do for a 23 year old, 20 year
• 1:18:45
  old, 19 year old. This makes perfect.
• 1:18:46
  Sense let's be honest, the brain's not fully developed.
• 1:18:49
  She had 25 and you think about all these things and you're
• 1:18:51
  like, yeah, actual. And then she the abuse happens.
• 1:18:55
  And you're like, oh, I feel guilty for.
• 1:18:56
  Feeling this way and then more shit happens after the hospital
• 1:19:00
  scene, the weird just you've reached the harbour from fucking
• 1:19:04
  Atlas and you're like, what? It's stupid again.
• 1:19:07
  And I think this had some good realistic violence in it.
• 1:19:12
  But this aftermath was totally wrong.
• 1:19:15
  It was because not really more violent during the pregnancy,
• 1:19:18
  more violent. When the baby's born.
• 1:19:19
  More violent when you told him you don't want to be together
• 1:19:22
  anymore. Yeah, this is where it was all
• 1:19:23
  lacking. Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  The behaviour was all during the relationship part and the Colin
• 1:19:28
  said it was based on her mum and I feel like her mum.
• 1:19:30
  Just hasn't told her the full extent.
• 1:19:34
  Also, if you're gonna make a movie and promote domestic
• 1:19:37
  abuse, go talk to domestic abuse survivors, survivors, or
• 1:19:42
  literally read. Anything on the fucking
• 1:19:44
  Internet. I know don't make it into, this
• 1:19:46
  is a wrong call. Like it's fine.
• 1:19:49
  It's fine because he loved you. No, it's not like where you got
• 1:19:52
  cute. Story in this like where is the
• 1:19:54
  cutesy? There's no, but there's no
• 1:19:55
  romance to build it up anyway. I'm still pissed about the
• 1:19:59
  reminders of him while she's like crying and he's like trying
• 1:20:01
  to fuck her in the car. It was just the male character.
• 1:20:05
  That was so far. Like we're supposed to care.
• 1:20:07
  About him because he has. Biceps and has a.
• 1:20:09
  Job that makes him seem smart. That's it.
• 1:20:12
  But I don't understand why people love him.
• 1:20:14
  They'll be like, I'm not. Supposed to love him because of
• 1:20:16
  the devil. There's no personality.
• 1:20:18
  He adds nothing to the book except he's there.
• 1:20:20
  He wasn't nice once, he wasn't. Attractive.
• 1:20:23
  There's no like chemistry between.
• 1:20:25
  Us he's supposed to be attractive though, because he's
• 1:20:27
  supposed to be the most beautiful man she's.
• 1:20:28
  Ever seen that's it? He fucking clocked the chair I.
• 1:20:32
  Know that would immediately just give you the physical ick.
• 1:20:35
  No, Jeff, the thing that I hate. Most about these kind of books
• 1:20:39
  is. Any female character is only
• 1:20:42
  ever allowed to have two romantic interests.
• 1:20:44
  Yes. Why would it have to be either
• 1:20:46
  Rile or Atlas? Why couldn't she just live?
• 1:20:49
  Life for a little bit. And wait until she met someone
• 1:20:52
  who was like a real person. Oh, so it's weird that Atlas is
• 1:20:55
  waiting for her for 10 years. That's.
• 1:20:57
  Ick, I'd be like if he hadn't been in any serious.
• 1:21:01
  Relationships I'd just question that nobody wants him.
• 1:21:04
  Exactly. It'd be like but this comes down
• 1:21:06
  to her age. Again.
• 1:21:07
  Yeah, she's the Lulu all the time.
• 1:21:09
  Conveniently. Both men are successful.
• 1:21:12
  So it doesn't. Really matter which one she
• 1:21:13
  picks? Yeah, but then when she meets
• 1:21:16
  Atlas again, are we? Supposed to be a goo goo Gaga
• 1:21:19
  for Atlas because he's excited you had your baby and it was a
• 1:21:23
  year later. Yeah, conveniently, her and Ryle
• 1:21:26
  were just. Smoothly Co.
• 1:21:28
  Parenting. Yeah.
• 1:21:29
  Like, as if that's how that would work.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah. Like you wouldn't be in the most
• 1:21:33
  bitter custody. Fight of your life.
• 1:21:36
  And have practically no hair and look like ass.
• 1:21:38
  She's just walking on the street looking gorgeous.
• 1:21:40
  Gorgeous. Runs into Atlas again.
• 1:21:43
  Shoot the man a text. Yeah.
• 1:21:45
  Why couldn't they ever talked like this entire time?
• 1:21:47
  They just wait until they physically meet up.
• 1:21:49
  You don't care about each other enough if you're not even going
• 1:21:51
  to text him, He says. For the last time.
• 1:21:53
  He sees her when she moves. Back into her house.
• 1:21:56
  She's like, don't message me unless it's an emergency because
• 1:21:59
  I can't be casual. You put your fucking feelings
• 1:22:01
  aside. She just found out she was
• 1:22:03
  pregnant. She probably has a concussion.
• 1:22:06
  She's been traumatized. Shut the fuck up and ask for it
• 1:22:09
  in six months. Come on.
• 1:22:11
  Or just casually ask her out on a lunch date.
• 1:22:14
  Platonic. And then worry about it later.
• 1:22:16
  You don't have to lock her in immediately.
• 1:22:19
  What's it with men? And they can't be friends with
• 1:22:21
  women. Yeah, the same fuck because he's
• 1:22:24
  not getting sex out of it and he needs.
• 1:22:26
  Reciprocation or else then then not a man.
• 1:22:29
  I'm just like, just be casual. Just just be a.
• 1:22:32
  Friend I know, invite her over. She logged your friends.
• 1:22:35
  It wouldn't have. Taken that long?
• 1:22:36
  Yeah. Are they always going to force
• 1:22:39
  their feelings down some woman's throat?
• 1:22:41
  It's ridiculous, but it's very on brand point.
• 1:22:45
  Yes, it's very much. You see that all the time.
• 1:22:47
  Because. Men don't want to invest 5
• 1:22:49
  minutes or $5 into you unless you're going to provide
• 1:22:52
  something back to either feed their ego or benefit.
• 1:22:56
  Their life. When you can talk to women
• 1:22:58
  who've been with men for a decade who have not received 1%
• 1:23:02
  happiness from the relationship, yeah that's fair.
• 1:23:06
  Dead ass happened to me. I I just don't.
• 1:23:07
  Understand why people like this. Book I.
• 1:23:09
  Don't know what part? What is the second book?
• 1:23:12
  About I thought it was a prequel.
• 1:23:14
  The second one I no the second. One is it starts with us and I
• 1:23:19
  think it's after she, Atlas and her she I think she has a bit of
• 1:23:24
  a custody battle with the Braille.
• 1:23:26
  I could be wrong. That's boring.
• 1:23:27
  I would not want to read that book and also Atlas.
• 1:23:30
  Gives me the X, so why would I want to read about?
• 1:23:32
  Him either, but why does she have to be with a man?
• 1:23:35
  They should have just. Ended it with her being like OK,
• 1:23:39
  we're divorced, we're divorced. I'm single in my life.
• 1:23:43
  I run a. Business, but it had to be that
• 1:23:46
  stupid pair up ending where? Everyone has to be paired up.
• 1:23:48
  Yeah, not sparked. I think it would be better if
• 1:23:51
  she just. Met someone totally brand new if
• 1:23:53
  they did. It epilogue 2 years later yes or
• 1:23:56
  18 months later I don't care I don't care.
• 1:23:58
  The timeline could be 5 minutes after the divorce.
• 1:24:00
  She had a little meet cute. Yes just a normal guy.
• 1:24:04
  Someone came into a shop and. Literally, that's all it had to
• 1:24:08
  be, and it would have. Just been so much better because
• 1:24:11
  she's learned boundaries and she's just like, I'm going to
• 1:24:14
  actually not trauma dump on this person and see if they're nice
• 1:24:19
  generally first. Do you want to get with the guy
• 1:24:21
  your trauma bonded to? You rushed your father, beat the
• 1:24:24
  shit out of him. And then you're gonna.
• 1:24:26
  It's bad. About that too.
• 1:24:27
  And then you're gonna take him home to your mum, where she was
• 1:24:29
  no better. This is the book that means the
• 1:24:32
  most therapy for. The characters like I just but
• 1:24:37
  there's no. Redeeming.
• 1:24:39
  Qualities. For anyone, Ryle would never
• 1:24:41
  have a redeeming quality. For me, he's a piece of shit.
• 1:24:44
  Absolutely piece. I was so hyped that we got to
• 1:24:47
  sit here and shit on him for an hour.
• 1:24:48
  It's the most amazing thing we've done.
• 1:24:50
  It's very relieving. Yeah.
• 1:24:52
  Very, very relieving. Therapeutic.
• 1:24:54
  Therapeutic, even. But Alyssa.
• 1:24:56
  Marshall. The fucking Atlas, Lily, they
• 1:25:00
  all pissed me off too. You know what?
• 1:25:02
  I'm probably going to watch the movie because I want to.
• 1:25:04
  See how they tried to age it up? Yeah, because I just don't get
• 1:25:08
  how you could make her look this dumb.
• 1:25:10
  Well, actually true. I feel like they just wanted
• 1:25:13
  Blake. Lively.
• 1:25:14
  Yeah, because she was a producer too, so she was like, I want to
• 1:25:17
  *. In it, you can't say no.
• 1:25:18
  You know what? I watched the trailer before I
• 1:25:20
  came over because I hadn't actually seen it yet.
• 1:25:22
  Justin, I can't remember his last name.
• 1:25:25
  Belgoni. Perfect brow.
• 1:25:27
  He actually looks like he's a perfect brow, but it would make
• 1:25:30
  sense if he was taking more advantage of someone.
• 1:25:33
  Like there's a girl they fan casted and she's in Winx club.
• 1:25:38
  I can't know what you mean. It was someone else.
• 1:25:39
  Yeah, yeah, someone actually young.
• 1:25:41
  Young. She would have been perfect
• 1:25:42
  because The thing is when? You look at characters that are
• 1:25:45
  their actual age, it makes it more traumatizing since we've
• 1:25:50
  reached a relaxation. Stage Finally, after all that
• 1:25:53
  raging, what should we rate this out of?
• 1:25:59
  Spoiler. Roulette.
• 1:26:00
  Mine's A1. Mine's a zero.
• 1:26:02
  I hated it. I just.
• 1:26:04
  Hated it, I didn't. Even feel comfortable.
• 1:26:06
  Listening. To the story I'd rather read
• 1:26:11
  where the pro dag sing. Again, Yeah, at least that had
• 1:26:14
  backdrop. It had a bit of.
• 1:26:17
  This was like, we're in Boston, doesn't explain a single thing
• 1:26:19
  about Boston. We went to Vegas to get married.
• 1:26:22
  Doesn't explain a thing about getting married in Vegas.
• 1:26:24
  I'm like, we're getting married. Didn't even know he's had a.
• 1:26:27
  Conversation. We started a business, didn't
• 1:26:29
  talk about how they started the. Business No.
• 1:26:32
  Ryle, as a neurosurgeon, never mentioned how.
• 1:26:34
  He. Actually went with those exams
• 1:26:36
  or yeah, that was difficult. Just that he had a lot of money,
• 1:26:40
  but he's doing residency. And exams so I'm assuming he
• 1:26:43
  would be broke. Everyone conveniently being
• 1:26:45
  rich. So that was never the problem
• 1:26:48
  and she could just focus all her attention on the DV problems.
• 1:26:50
  That doesn't happen to women. They've got real problems on top
• 1:26:54
  of the DV. Yeah.
• 1:26:56
  So yeah, I technically. Can't give it a 0.
• 1:26:59
  Because Siri doesn't exist. I don't .5 then. .2.
• 1:27:07
  Lol Oh my God that's enough. It ends with.
• 1:27:10
  This because I'm fucking done. The end of this book for us and
• 1:27:14
  the way they just chucked in the IT ends with.
• 1:27:17
  Us the cycle ends with us, I just get to choose what I end
• 1:27:21
  the cycle of TV. No, unfortunately, your
• 1:27:24
  daughter's going to go through it for the rest of their.
• 1:27:25
  Life. I love how she just decides I
• 1:27:29
  end the cycle. Of TV.
• 1:27:30
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• 1:27:34
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