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Patriots Unfiltered 10/5: NFL Week 5 Picks, Saints Preview, Thursday Practice Update · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 8: J C.
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  Speaker 1: Jackson is going to be practicing today.
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  Speaker 4: You think he's here, he's here, per Larrence guy. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: let the Canada of the bag on that one a little.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, all right?
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  Speaker 9: He said he's wearing a blazer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, he's looking nice looking, looking ready to go.
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  Speaker 9: He didn't come from court, did he.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow, that cool friend. You did bring that up yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: not on air, but.
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  Speaker 9: I mean he's got like some that like a speeding tic.
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  Speaker 1: Figure.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, like I don't think he did anything quote
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  Speaker 5: unquote you know, dramatically wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Who among us haven't had a fort.
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  Speaker 5: No, what's speeding to he got? It was yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's all I'm saying. It's not like he had a
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  Speaker 5: domestic violence.
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  Speaker 9: That's why. That's why I felt all right, making a
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  Speaker 9: small has.
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  Speaker 4: Already gotten it thrown out.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine. So what else we got?
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  Speaker 5: Who's to say he was speeding?
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  Speaker 1: You'll lose us.
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  Speaker 5: What else we got we got?
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  Speaker 10: No?
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  Speaker 11: Tykwon Thornton. We did see him in the locker room yesterday, man,
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  Speaker 11: I was like, what the hell? Man, I thought you
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  Speaker 11: were gonna be out there And I didn't actually say that.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, And we were hoping that even though Evan
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  Speaker 1: didn't see him when he was out there, that he
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  Speaker 1: might have popped up later in the practice and shown
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  Speaker 1: up as a Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was hoping, but I don't think that happened.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe today, Yeah, maybe today you never know, you never
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  Speaker 1: took be weird.
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  Speaker 9: Like why today not yesterday? Like I means, yeah, I
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  Speaker 9: got to retest him or something.
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  Speaker 5: So I do think And I made a comment yesterday
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  Speaker 5: about when guys are they begin practicing, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: I think Evan you said it goes on the wire
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  Speaker 5: as the clock has begun and whatnot. But in the
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  Speaker 5: past you didn't have to list those guys on the
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  Speaker 5: injury report. The Patriots listed all those guys in the
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  Speaker 5: injury port so that must be a change in the process.
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  Speaker 9: I noticed that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because Cody Davis and Trey Flowers and Riley Reef
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  Speaker 5: are all on the the injury report. Yeah, along with
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  Speaker 5: pretty much every other player who's ever played in the Patriots. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's a list for both.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, usually the list doesn't get to that one until November.
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  Speaker 1: We're starting early this year.
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  Speaker 11: Well, Sean Wade was on it, so that's I guess
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  Speaker 11: why part of the j C. Jackson thing too, right.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he was on it last week, so to be fair,
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  Speaker 4: Oh never mind, Yeah, he was questionable for the game
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  Speaker 4: shoulder all right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think of all the people that popped up knew,
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  Speaker 1: I think Riley Reef has the best chance maybe that
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  Speaker 1: to you know, have an impact this I guess.
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  Speaker 11: I just I mean, it's like we said they started
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  Speaker 11: him at right tackle and it seemed like he was
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  Speaker 11: going to be the right tackle, and then what like
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  Speaker 11: three days into camp, he won't the right tackle anymore.
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  Speaker 11: He was at right guard, and I mean, I think
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  Speaker 11: we all watched him and said, it doesn't look like
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  Speaker 11: he's going to be able to handle speed off the edge.
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  Speaker 11: I think Evan made good points though yesterday, like at
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  Speaker 11: least he can maybe run block though, and maybe that's
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  Speaker 11: like you got to just bite the bullet, and he
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  Speaker 11: certainly has experience.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's no way that the bar is on
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  Speaker 4: the floor and right tackle in terms of pass protection.
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  Speaker 4: So even if he's bad there, like, is it going
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  Speaker 4: to really be worse than what they've had? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they are dead last in the league right now in
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  Speaker 4: past blocking, dead last thirty second. I think there's a
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  Speaker 4: statistical argument to be made that they have the worst
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  Speaker 4: offensive line in the NFL. Like that that is wild,
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  Speaker 4: Like a Patriots team to have the worst offensive line
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL is unbelievable to me, Like that, even
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  Speaker 4: in the years where they didn't have scary. They weren't
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  Speaker 4: the worst offensive line in the league. Like they might
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  Speaker 4: not have been as good as they were with Dante,
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  Speaker 4: but they weren't that bad.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, how much of it do you really put
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  Speaker 11: Adrian Clem in the crosshairs? Do you put you know,
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  Speaker 11: just a new offense and maybe Adrian Clem working with
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  Speaker 11: you know, new players and a new offense and Bill O'Brien,
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  Speaker 11: you know, or is it just kind of come down
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  Speaker 11: to the players?
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  Speaker 4: I all the above, probably right. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 4: Adrian Clem deserves some criticism for the fact that these
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  Speaker 4: guys just aren't cutting it, and I think some of
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  Speaker 4: the guys like on Winn who have have regressed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I understand he didn't practice in camp
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  Speaker 4: for very long, but he came back towards the end
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  Speaker 4: of August and he's now been playing games, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: at some point you have to start to see the old.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah four weeks Michael, Yeah, right, So, I you know,
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  Speaker 11: it's just that's what's just bad. That's what's troubling too,
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  Speaker 11: is just that some of the player, the main players
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  Speaker 11: that you felt good about.
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  Speaker 9: From those twenty twenty and twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 11: One drafts are really kind of on the downswing right now,
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  Speaker 11: between mac Ramandre Michael and when you like all these
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  Speaker 11: kind of guys that you thought, I mean, I don't.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know if I'm gonna put Dugger into that mix,
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  Speaker 11: although I just don't really think he's that much.
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  Speaker 5: It's almost like assessing a draft immediately whether it's good
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  Speaker 5: or bad, isn't the right thing to do?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, because you.
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  Speaker 5: Never know how you know, these guys are going to unfold,
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  Speaker 5: and I think a lot of times we're guilty of it.
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  Speaker 5: On the positive side, you know, and I am too.
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  Speaker 5: I put myself in the category. I'm in love with
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  Speaker 5: Christian Gonzalez right now, just like a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 5: Barmore was my guy, and Barmore, you know, right now,
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  Speaker 5: I would say Gonzales that's a huge hit. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe in three years it's it looks differently. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 5: never know.
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  Speaker 4: I look at it. I've been thinking about Dugger a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, and I think, especially without Gonzales and Judan, like,
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  Speaker 4: they might need to move him back to his role
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  Speaker 4: last year it simply to get the playmaking out of him,
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  Speaker 4: like putting him, you know, thirty yards off the line
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  Speaker 4: of scrimmage. It might be what's best for the defense
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  Speaker 4: as a whole, but right now you just need guys
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  Speaker 4: to make plays on the ball, and leaving him so
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  Speaker 4: far away from the ball really hasn't worked. So, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's putting Jalen Mills back at deep safety or Adrian
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  Speaker 4: Phillips or Miles Bryan or whoever it is that takes
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  Speaker 4: that spot over for him, but moving Dugger back into
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  Speaker 4: the box and closer to the line of scrimmage just
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  Speaker 4: to get his impact back on the game because he's
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  Speaker 4: been kind of non existent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so in your film study, Evan, have you
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  Speaker 1: concluded that Dougger is playing the role of mccordy deep
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  Speaker 1: center field.
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  Speaker 4: I would say so deep center field and then on
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  Speaker 4: third down like playing more at the sticks. But in
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  Speaker 4: general you know him in a little bit of paper.
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  Speaker 4: But Peppers has been making plays because he's been playing
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  Speaker 4: close with the line of scrimmage than Dugger and has
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  Speaker 4: been more at the point of attack than Kyle Dugger.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not that Peppers is doing it poorly, it's
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  Speaker 4: just last year you got what five six turnovers from
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  Speaker 4: Kyle Dugger and a couple of defensive touchdowns and like's
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  Speaker 4: you need those types of plays right now. You need
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  Speaker 4: the game swinging plays that they're not getting from some
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  Speaker 4: of these other guys.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, this might be a little bit of deep.
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  Speaker 11: I can't I was gonna just say, I mean, Cody
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  Speaker 11: Davis coming back, I wonder if that's gonna what's that
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  Speaker 11: gonna do to Adrian Phillips, Because I feel like Adrian
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  Speaker 11: Phillips when Cody Davis went out last year, Adrian Phillips,
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  Speaker 11: we can and we can talk about whether or not
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  Speaker 11: his play was declining and they wanted to pull him
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  Speaker 11: off a defense, but it felt like they shifted him
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  Speaker 11: more to special teams. And I just I wonder maybe
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  Speaker 11: if Cody Davis comes back and they say, hey, now
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  Speaker 11: we don't have to make Phillips, you know, forb with
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  Speaker 11: you know all special team player.
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  Speaker 9: Maybe. I don't know, though, I think.
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  Speaker 5: It's the question of what is you think that's affected
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  Speaker 5: as snaps on defense load.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: I haven't seen a ton of of like bad plays.
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  Speaker 11: He just hasn't really played much on defense.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't really know, he hasn't. I just wonder
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  Speaker 5: with the state of the corners, like you guys sort
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  Speaker 5: of talked me into yesterday with with bringing in J. C. Jackson,
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if maybe they just have to play more
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  Speaker 5: safeties more often. Yeah, because those are better players than
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  Speaker 5: Sean Wade.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely need to play more too deep, that's for sure,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, cover two quarters and protect the corners.
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  Speaker 4: He Yeah, I don't think they're going to play nearly
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  Speaker 4: as much man to man as they planned on playing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've been thinking about the game too,
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  Speaker 1: and I think, to me, the game comes down to
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr. How healthy is he? You know, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's big. He's got some weapons, yeah, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: if he's healthy, I would think that he might be
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  Speaker 1: licking his chops after watching last game. But if he's
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  Speaker 1: not healthy that you know, that makes a big difference.
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  Speaker 11: Still on the injury report right shoulder. So yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 11: still whatever it is, I don't know. I mean some ways,
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  Speaker 11: I'm almost more concerned about Jameis Winston a little bit
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  Speaker 11: of you know, just his ability to throw deep, and
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  Speaker 11: that's you know some thing that I think they have
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  Speaker 11: the weapons to get the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 9: And you know, is like as.
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  Speaker 11: Evan said yesterday, Car thrown behind the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 11: a lot last week. Is he you know, does he
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  Speaker 11: just not have the zip right now when he's not
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  Speaker 11: really able to Certainly if the game gets you know,
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  Speaker 11: if the Patriots were to get a leader or something,
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  Speaker 11: they need some explosive plays, maybe they put Winston and
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  Speaker 11: take some shots. But interesting Winston was excellent, you know
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  Speaker 11: against the Patriots here in twenty twenty one. I think
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  Speaker 11: I was as surprised as anybody when they came in
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  Speaker 11: here and just kind of rolled, which Hunter Henry kind
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  Speaker 11: of confirmed yesterday during his press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like they, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the accuracy. I don't. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: of car.
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  Speaker 11: No, when cars, when Carr play, Yeah, when Carr can
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  Speaker 11: wrex them, if you could merge it, yeah and make like,
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  Speaker 11: you know, doating this car.
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  Speaker 1: He might have a stronger arm for sure.
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  Speaker 5: But now, I mean, I think Carr throws the ball well,
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  Speaker 5: but I do. I think just brings up a good
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  Speaker 5: point because I that that thirteen for thirty three is
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  Speaker 5: still like sticking in my head, Like I wonder if
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  Speaker 5: they just didn't want him to sit back there and
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  Speaker 5: wait for any of those place to develop because they
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  Speaker 5: wanted to make sure they kept him healthy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did throw five deep balls and he was
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  Speaker 4: zero for five. One of them was I thought a drop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but it just the Tampa played a lot of too
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  Speaker 4: deep coverage and a lot of soft zone in that
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  Speaker 4: game Tampa two and just begged Derek Carr to check
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  Speaker 4: it down, like they just they were asking him to
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  Speaker 4: check it down the entire game. I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: much it was that Derek Carr didn't have zip on
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  Speaker 4: the ball and how much of it was just that
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  Speaker 4: was Tampa's game plan.
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  Speaker 11: Was interesting because you might think, like going in, if
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  Speaker 11: he's got a shoulder injury, like, hey, let's see if
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  Speaker 11: he can, like, let's just attack him at the line
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  Speaker 11: of scrimmage, take away the short stuff and if he's
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  Speaker 11: gonna beat us, beat us down the field. But maybe
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  Speaker 11: they know something I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, in typical cover too, like that the
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  Speaker 4: opening is like the whole shots along the sideline and
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  Speaker 4: if you're having arm shoulder issues, like making that kind
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  Speaker 4: of throw in an NFL window is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a little bit difficult. So maybe that's that's where they
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  Speaker 4: were coming from. But I didn't watch the film and
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  Speaker 4: think of Derek Carr like, oh, he has no zip
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  Speaker 4: on the ball. He's not you know, his shoulder must
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  Speaker 4: be an issue. It was more that was just kind
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  Speaker 4: of Tampa Bay's strategy was to play zone and and
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  Speaker 4: force him to to dink and dunk it down the field.
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  Speaker 1: Now, according to my app, the weather has taken a
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  Speaker 1: turn for the better. Great right now it's calling for
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  Speaker 1: upper fifties, lower sixties and sunny on Sundays.
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  Speaker 9: Too hot, too hot. I think it's too hot.
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  Speaker 5: What do we have for Saturday?
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  Speaker 1: Saturday?
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  Speaker 9: Rainy?
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  Speaker 5: Still rain?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, sitting in the rain watching football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Saturday rain. But Sunday I may skip. According to
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  Speaker 1: my app, sunny and in miles.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd say, uh, I got a thing.
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  Speaker 1: So J T.
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  Speaker 11: Osullivan put out another video yesterday on Mac which I
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  Speaker 11: thought was pretty How great was he this thirty eight minutes?
• 13:44
  Speaker 9: How great was JT?
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  Speaker 12: Or?
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  Speaker 5: How great was Mel Mac?
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  Speaker 9: Mac wasn't good in the game, actually, put No.
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  Speaker 5: JJ didn't have a positive review of this one.
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  Speaker 9: No, I mean no, he really did well.
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  Speaker 11: No, that's I don't think you're you're right about that.
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  Speaker 11: He's pretty umane. But no, it was good. It was
• 13:58
  Speaker 11: it was good. I mean, and it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 11: always I think, like when we got into Tuesday, you know,
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  Speaker 11: I like, I mean, I respect but arts coverage and
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  Speaker 11: I liked it, you know, but it doesn't mean we
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  Speaker 11: always agree. And I think Evan and I don't really
• 14:08
  Speaker 11: agree with a lot of his analysis this week. But
• 14:11
  Speaker 11: but jt O'sulliam was just all over Max footwork and
• 14:14
  Speaker 11: I mean, you know, and just breaking it down, showing
• 14:16
  Speaker 11: what he was doing and how just discombobulated he got.
• 14:20
  Speaker 11: And it was you know, when they're when he's going
• 14:23
  Speaker 11: through it, it's it's it's just kind of confirming everything
• 14:25
  Speaker 11: that we said, but pointing out specific examples of stuff.
• 14:27
  Speaker 11: Evan and I talked a little bit about it, you know,
• 14:29
  Speaker 11: not not anything we didn't know, but just kind of
• 14:32
  Speaker 11: putting it up on the screen of you.
• 14:33
  Speaker 9: Know, hey, first drive it. It looks pretty good. He's comfortable,
• 14:36
  Speaker 9: he steps up in the pocket.
• 14:37
  Speaker 11: He's also pointed out that throw he made it the
• 14:39
  Speaker 11: start of the third quarter Hunter Henry, the one hander
• 14:41
  Speaker 11: that they got the penalty on. Good throw good, you know,
• 14:43
  Speaker 11: stepped up. But a lot of like we talked about
• 14:46
  Speaker 11: on Tuesday, like, why are you bailing from pocket right here?
• 14:48
  Speaker 11: Like just take a little step and throw the ball
• 14:50
  Speaker 11: to the guy who needs to be He he lost
• 14:52
  Speaker 11: his mind, and I think it's just kind of confirmed
• 14:54
  Speaker 11: everything we've been talking.
• 14:55
  Speaker 9: About that, you know, I mean, And j T. O'Sullivan
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: was like these this is kind of that will get
• 15:00
  Speaker 9: you out of the league.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Certainly, he's played quarterback and he's an All twenty two
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: guy and he's that's his job now. He could break
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: things down. But there was a guy that I listened
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: to who to me, it was the most damning when
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: it comes to Mac and he's not an All twenty
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: two guy, but I trust his instinct and that's Julian Edelman.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: And Julian Edelman said, he's just not playing good football,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: and you know, I know he doesn't look at it,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: you know, from that granular view that you know, some
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: like the Brian Baldinger is doing. But I think he's
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: got good football instinct and I think he can tell
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: when a guy's playing when it's him or the other factors.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: And he's putting it squarely on Max's shoulders. And to
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: me that said a lot. I mean, Julian Edelman is
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: certainly a Patriots guy. You know, if there was I
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't Mac, then he would have said it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: He would come to his defense. He has no you know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: grinds to gear, gears to grind when it comes to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Mac Or you know, I was right, you know, like
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: some people didn't think he was going to be good,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: and now he's you know, defending that take. No, he
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: would be defending him if he could, but he couldn't. Yeah.
• 16:07
  Speaker 11: Well, and man truly knows what the expectations are here,
• 16:10
  Speaker 11: what it should look like, the offense looks when it
• 16:12
  Speaker 11: should be in rhythm. And you know I saw the
• 16:14
  Speaker 11: same thing you saw. It's and yeah, it's that's how
• 16:17
  Speaker 11: it is right now.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been on Max's footwork since week one.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Like I think his footwork is broken. I think it
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: started breaking last year. And I Badar calls him backfoot
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Mac now, and I think that that's totally accurate. Like
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: all he does is throw off his back foot, even
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: when he makes good throws. It's still like go watch
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: week one, the Kendrick Bourne touchdown that we all owed
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: an odd over on the on the post, he bails out,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: he fades away. Yeah, like he doesn't trust the pocket.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: He's thrown off his back foot constantly. He's throwing from
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: platforms that you know, bases with his feet that he
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: just can't do.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: He've been a guy with a cannon. Your guy Drew
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Bledsoe a lot of times when he would get in trouble,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: it was he's thrown off his back foot. Well, a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: lot of guys, yeah, I know a lot of but
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I'm talking for a guy with a big arm. That's
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: a problem.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: And I also would say, like you know, with him,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I think what what gets me frustrated with Mac is
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: like his inability to move in the pocket, like in
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: like a just in a little in a little bot
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: right right, like you know he's got he's got you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: pressure coming off the edge on the left hand side,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: and it's just like just relocate, like just take a
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: little side step and then like move up in the
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: pocket on to your right, your head down right and
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: reset and throw because you can't afford to throw off
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: your back foot here because the ball, you know, DeVante
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Parker is coming across the field and if you throw
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: off your back foot then it's going to be a
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: pick six. Right, So instead, like you got to relocate
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: in the pocket and then throw the football, and he does.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: That's one thing that I've never really seen him be
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: very good at in general, and I don't think he
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: has that that a yar, that instinct to just all right,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the pressures coming from the left, but the right is
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: is protected. So if I just move off my spot
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: a little bit here instead, it's like either backfoot Mac
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: or it's bail. Yeah, like there's no in between.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: You mentioned instinct. Do you think that can be taught
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that those small movements within the pocket.
• 18:20
  Speaker 11: I mean, it's interesting because I agree with Evan's saying,
• 18:23
  Speaker 11: but I also felt like when Matt got here that
• 18:25
  Speaker 11: he had pocket presence.
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: Yes, I felt like.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: And like as a rookie, he was much more poised
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: in the pocket.
• 18:30
  Speaker 11: But I wonder if there's a difference, if there's a
• 18:32
  Speaker 11: difference between being good in a in a well protected
• 18:36
  Speaker 11: pocket and doing what Evan's saying and being able to
• 18:39
  Speaker 11: reset and take a couple steps, Like when the pocket's
• 18:41
  Speaker 11: there and he can just stand it and throw, he
• 18:43
  Speaker 11: won't get occupied with you know, the rushers and people
• 18:46
  Speaker 11: at his feet and stuff. But I mean, you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: that game was just prime example of just take a
• 18:50
  Speaker 11: step reset boom.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's I heard Orlawsky yesterday on EEI talking
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: a little bit about that, and that's one of the
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: things that we talked about when it was going better
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: for Mac. Like Evan just talked about the touchdown throw
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: against the Eagles, Laski brought up the throw to Hunter Henry.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I think late in the Miami game. It was like
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: a cross. It was like third and like I think
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: it was like third and twenty and they got like
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: sixteen yards or something like that. It was a like recoiled,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: leaning back throw that barely got there and everybody's like, wow,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Like you fit that in a tight window. But that's
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: not that. Sometimes completing those passes can be the worst thing,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: you know, like the ones across the field. When you
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: get away with it, then you think you can always
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: get away with it. But people have noticed that he's
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: not necessarily stepping in and letting it rip because I
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: think when he does that, the arms not as much
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: of an issue. Right when he steps into the throws,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I think it's adequate.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have one hundred percent, And that's why he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: got to learn to reset his platform, Like because if
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: he if he just moves off his spot a little
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: bit in the pocket and then resets his feet and
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: then throws, I don't think we'd have all these concerns
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: about his arm strength. The problem is that he's bailing
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: all the time and he's falling out the back of
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: the eye.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: And I get in arguments sometimes with people, especially my
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: boy Felger, you know, when he always it's so overrated,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: it's overrated. I go, but there's so infrequently in the
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: NFL that everything is perfect where you have the clean
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: pocket and you can step into it and drive the ball.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: If that's the case.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Then they all can do it. I would agree, Like
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: you don't really like Chad Pennington, even after all the
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: shoulder surgeries, could do it. But what happens when it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: not quite the same and it's all arm.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, anticipating pressure. You know, obviously his
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: footwork's not been great all year. But in the Jets game,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: there was that one play drops back in. It was
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: definitely a screenplay he was getting ready for, and his
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: feet were all over the place, you know, just you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and it was like, guy, the pressure's not even there yet,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, what do.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: You think it is.
• 21:01
  Speaker 11: Do you think it's And I'm sure you know it's
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: a combination, but I mean, is it he doesn't trust
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: his current offensive line and the play this year has
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: slowly grown on him to the point where he just.
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: Is terrified that he's gonna get popped. Yeah, yeah that
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: Or is it connected.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: To last year too, where Brady went through the same
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: thing at times?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: I think Brady was doing a lot of that toward
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: the end of his career, a lot of recoiling.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I I My fear is that, you know, the modern
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: example that we always go to of like quarterbacks who's
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: internal clocks and footwork gets broken, as David car Like
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that's what everybody always goes to. And my fear is
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: that it's never gonna come back like if you once,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: because last year it started to go downhill and then
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: it hasn't gotten any better this year. And like he
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: stood in and you know kind of we would call
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: it like stare down the barrel right of like a
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: guy coming in his face and he'll throw the ball
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: under some pressure, like his his statistics under pressure this
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: year have been a lot better than last year. But
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: that's not even what we're really talking about it's like,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: you know, those little movements in the pocket or you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: stepping into throws and when he does have clean pockets
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: and things like that, and I don't know, once that's
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: you're broken in that sense, it's like really hard to
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: get it back.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: It's one thing to avoid the pressure. It's another thing
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to avoid the pressure. And like you said, reset, get
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: yourself ready because the pressure is still there and now
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you're making yourself vulnerable. You have to be able to
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: be okay with that. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: take a hit here, but my platform's.
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: Right well, you know, I mean, this was one of
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: what Brady's superpowers was. I mean, I think Paul brought
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: up the example of the overtime Miami three past to
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: Troy Brown, where it's he gets out of the pocket,
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: it's muddy, he stops, resets and and and chucks it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 11: I mean, that was just something I think if you
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: put you know, Brady comebacks playing clutch at the end
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: of the game. But that really I think was maybe
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: one of his most powerful assets was just his ability
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: to subtle move boom, deliver the ball, you know, without
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: getting flustered.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: And I think with a lot of quarterbacks, and David
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Carr is a great example of that. But my favorite,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll say Drew got shell shocked. You know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: he used to stand in first six eight years of
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: his career. There was no one tougher. He just stood
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: in the pocket. He knew he wasn't a scrambler, he
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: knew he wasn't going to make a living off platform.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: He stood in the pocket, took the hit, and at
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: some point, I just think that it happens to all
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: those guys, and I think it happened to Brady too.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I think Brady, you know, when you just get hit
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: time and time again, sometimes you just say I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: want to get hit anymore. And I mean you watched
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: some of brady stuff, some of the bad games that
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Brady had toward the end of his career. Like I
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: think of that Detroit game when Matt Patricia was the coach, yep,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Like he's the greatest that ever played, and he would
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: do it. And I don't think it to you a point, Evan,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it's ever coming back. No one
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: has more respect for Drew Bledsoe than I do. It
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: never came back. He got shell shocked and he had success,
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: but not if he was taken him and I wonder
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: if that's part of the mental problem.
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: I feel like this weekend he'll come out and he'll
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: be under wraps a little bit. I think he'll be
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: controlled and he'll be okay early on, but it's really
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: just as the team goes on to mysel.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: If I were the Saints, my number one priority would
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: be to get a hit on him early in the game.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And getting back to the line. I remember when Bledsoe
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: first got here and Parcels like demonstrably said to his
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: do not let him get hit. And I wonder if
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Bill gives that backing to you know Mac. You know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: like those offensive line knew that if Bledsoe got hit,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: they had to answer not to their offensive line coach
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: but to their head coach. Under no circumstances let him
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: get hit, Okay. And now, yeah, Bruce Armstrong, so that helped,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: but you know, in some really good linemen, but I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: mean the head coach made it a point at that time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: And it is part of coaching, guess, but it was amazing.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Remember that, well, when when Bledsoe had Parcels, you look
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: at him, and he was never a mobile guy. I
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: mean in his best day, he wasn't mobile. And he
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: would be in the teens for sacks for a season
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: and then when Carol came, it like doubled and tripled.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: But if you're a if you're a quarterback and you
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: hear your head coach say that, it gives you a
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: little bit more.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Confidence, you know. And it's not like Drew didn't throw
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the ball. He said an all the time NFL record
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: in the second season for pass attempts.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is something that you know, I've
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: tried not to make a huge deal out of, but
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: like O'Sullivan pointed it out a little bit, and other
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: people have pointed it out, and I just think like
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: sometimes the whole vibe on the offenses off in terms
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: of like energy and just you know, kind of caring
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: about their quarterback, and like, you know, I wanted to,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: like was watching just some clips on Twitter of Justin
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Herbert last week got laid out on the sideline.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Mike and I said this live when it happened.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: The entire team came off the sideline and got in
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Jerry Tillery's.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Like two guys without their helmet song.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: They had to get Jerry Tillery out of there to
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: save his life. It felt like at one point, you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: like the whole team was like it was like, you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: storming the castle, because like they laid out Justin Herbert
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: on the sideline, and I just I can't think. I
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: don't think that would happen here. Like, I don't think
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: that if Mac got hit like that that you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: we're talking about defensive players that were on the bench
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: at the time jumping off the bench to get involved.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: You know, like part of that might be Bill.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you don't want to put any
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: one player above the others, but maybe you have to.
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, and I mean to continue along those lines,
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: I mean, one of the players, though Sullivan highlighted, was
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: when Mac, I mean he didn't even wait for the pocket.
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: He just went and then he ran and then he
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: got stood up by the linebacker and a boom and
• 26:45
  Speaker 11: he was like, no one comes, and He's like this
• 26:47
  Speaker 11: stands out to me that no one comes to his defense.
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: Right here he gets hit, the linebacker's just standing over him,
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: and Trent Brown and everybody else just kind of walks
• 26:55
  Speaker 11: up to the line.
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: So I don't know. I try not to get too
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: much into that weeds, but.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: It's not even just like after the snap for me though,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Like you know, I watched another clip of Keenan Allen
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: was like chipping the end on his way out of
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: his route and he just lowers his shoulder into the
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: end and pops the guy to the ground and pancakes
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: him to the ground. And on Sunday that the Patriots
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: tried to chip Michael Parsons plenty of times and there's
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: just nothing to it. Like it's just there's just no
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: anger to it. It's like like hit them like you
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: know it. Back when they would play guys like you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey for example, like Dante high Tower used to
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: put him on his butt off the line of scrimmage,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: you know, and it used to get on those guys.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: Or they played great pass rushers and they would tell
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: their backs to chip them out coming out of the
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: backfield into their route. You didn't just like kind of
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: lazily like give them a little forearm, No, you lowered
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: your shoulder into the gun.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Somebody has to set that tone, I don't know on
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: this team.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: And they can't run the ball either, so it all
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: ties together to me as this lack of just physicality.
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: And then the newest T shirt is Tough Teams Cover
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: Kicks is the newest T shirt in the locker, which
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: just to me didn't really hit the right note of,
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: you know, everything Evan's talking about, we stop with the
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: T shirts and stop with the T shirts and you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: like the the glorification of the special teams.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: You know, like the special teams have like three different
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: sets of shirt.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's a me problem, no, but I get it.
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: But like, isn't the tough teams don't let teams come
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: out and just walalz right down the field on you
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: and score too, you know, like that's part of being
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: a tough team and everything.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Evan, just say against all three of the teams that
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: you played that had an offense, that's what happened. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: you know, and I wanted when when Mike, when you
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: started bringing up the stuff about you know, the the
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: reaction and all that, and it's just Bill O'Brien's comments.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I thought some of them were telling. And you were
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: talking about getting out of the pocket and running on
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: that play, and I wish I had it like they
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: played a clip of it yesterday on the Sports Hub
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: on my show Fred, and there was two different comments
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: that I thought were telling that Billy oh sort of
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: you could tell he was sort of stopping himself. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: one of them was on that run, it's like, we
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: have to know what we can and this is why
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: I wish I had it, because I don't have the
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: actual quote in front of me, but paraphrasing, we have
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: to know what we can and can't do, like we're
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: not built to get out of the pocket and try
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: to run for a first down there, and then he
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: took a good hit, you know. And the other one
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: was the the third and one the throw to Kasiki
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: when when O'Brien was talking about it, he said, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: we have to get down there. We have to execute,
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: we have to coach it. But like he stopped himself
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: because he didn't want to make it sound like he's
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: putting it on the players. That play was there, that
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: was a good design, and it's third and less than one.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I think, I mean, I was thrown off by the
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: play action there. That play's got to work. Kasiki was
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: open and.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Talking about, yeah he missed Parker, but he's got.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: But I think it's but I think it's an easy
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: throw to Kasiki for a touchdown.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's an easier throw to park.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: And whatever, like that's got to be a touchdown. Like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I know, we can sit here where we can say
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: why are they not doing X? And I would and
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: a lot of in a lot of ways, I would
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: agree with a lot of bad criticism, But that play
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: was there.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the play worked. Yeah, well, I mean this wasn't exit.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I mean by both of them. I thought it was
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: a little off. The throwers a little off, but I
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: also thought Kasicki could have caught it.
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean JT on that one, I mean he
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: literally was like and this is kind of the Evans point.
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: He's like he just skips over Parker like that should
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: be the second read and what he's going through and
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: Parker's coming across, and like you know, he does try
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: to get it off to Kasiki as he's falling away.
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: So I mean, yeah, that was there, but like even
• 30:32
  Speaker 11: his was just like he's just skipping a read right there,
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: like and that was almost Evan like he forgot what
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: the play is, like he forgot what the p And that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Was on the third and one, Yeah, to me. That's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: even more of a sense of urgency there, you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: because you're you're going for the touchdown when you could
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: go for the first down and extend the drive. And
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you got to make that play. You've got to make
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that play.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: And that was from like the city. That's seven yard line.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's up here.
• 30:56
  Speaker 13: Man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: If you when you see Parker, there can no second thought. Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: get rid of it. Get rid of it, you know. Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I mean I when I did my breakdown of it,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I highlighted Parker being open on that play because that's
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: a layup, like that's an easy it's a little crosser
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: over the middle of the field. The throw to Gasiki
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: is a tough throw, like he's coming across the field
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the other direction, and then.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It's it's gonna have to get it over right, and.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: It's late, like you know, Parso Parsons beats Trent Brown
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: off the edge there and he's going one, two, three,
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: and he's coming to his third read in the progression,
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: so he's about to get hit by Parsons. That the
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: throw that's the easy throw is the one to Parker
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: that's five yards in front of him. And if he
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: just hits Parker, in stride. He's just gonna cut it
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: up and walk into the end zone and it's just.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And if he doesn't get it, you get a first down.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Figure Yeah, but those are he would have scored. But
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: those are like the types of throws that Mac needs
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: to make the throw to Parker. Mac can't be the
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: guy that's trying to make the throw to Gasiki. He
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: doesn't have the type of like arm talent to make
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: that kind of throw consistently. So he's got to make
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: the layups in the offense. And in this game he
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: missed a lot of those time types of layups. Like
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying I definitely.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Missed one on a fourth down later in the game,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Parker was wide open.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying he's gonna mark like he's going
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: to hit these like he throws them all.
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: The time until the time when he's actually just wide open.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know, and then that's a little bit on us,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Like he doesn't like it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I Like, you know, why do they keep force feeding
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Parker with with snaps? You know, Well, maybe
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it's because they know he is getting open, you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and the balls just not getting delivered to him. Maybe,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: you know, we need to rethink our view of Parker.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Well, the Parker thing, they don't I don't have any
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: problem with him playing because they don't have anybody else
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: that does what he does, I know, But like it's
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: the the Mario Douglas snaps that I want I wanted
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: to take away from, like Juju.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: But we look at Parkers one catch five targets, Well,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, it should be more.
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: It should be it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Should be yeah. I mean, no one's saying that there
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: were you know that these players would go for fifty
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: sixty yard touchdowns. I don't, but these little dump offs
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: over the middle on these crossing routes and stuff like that,
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: like that's that's got to be some thing that Mac
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: consistently hit.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, Mac kind of
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: said when he was talking about, you know, I've got
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to stay within the game plan a little bit more.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he was told that, Oh yeah, and you
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: know O'Brien kind of alluding to it to take what's there.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: You know, this is the way the play is set up.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Don't just just stick with the plan, you know, Yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and we'll be okay.
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: I just think with the Saints defense, with the veteran
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: players they have, they're watching that film and they're identifying
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: and they're talking about everything that we're talking.
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: About with him.
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: So I think Paul's plan for getting after him and
• 33:35
  Speaker 11: you know, just trying to get his clock off, because
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: I would feel like at this point, if I was
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: an opponent, if we can get to him and get
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: his clock off.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, last week we were we were all wrong.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: We thought that, you know, Dallas would run the ball,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: run the ball, and they did the exact opposite. We
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: go into this game saying, well, you know, Saints don't
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: really blitz a lot that maybe just because maybe they
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: will in this game, you know, so they have to
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: be ready for that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know how aggressive they want to get, but.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't blitz. I think I just win one on
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: one matchups.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: But but like you said, Paul, if you can hit.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Him early, yeah, but you don't have to blitz to
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: do that. Maybe it's my point. If they do say
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: you have to change.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying maybe the Saints do. And so maybe
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the idea is.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: I don't think against the thirty second rank pass blocking
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: unit you have.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But why take the chance let's just hit him early.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Let's find a way to do it real fast.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a bigger chance to give
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: up a play on a blitz when you don't blitz
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: a lot, and it's exposure.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just say. I'm just saying.
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: I would you know, I would say I'm going to
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: take my chances with Cameron Jordan on Vendarian Lowe, and
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: I think I'm gonna win. I'm going to win that
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: matchup more than a few times, especially early, you know.
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: And even even Davis too, is just an active, veteran
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: aggressive kind of guy.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: That's a great player, you know. I say, like, there's
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: a stat too like that that game last week, which
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: was also a little misleading because the Bucks put it
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: away late. Yeah, that snapped a long streak of the
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Saints defense not allowing twenty more than twenty points in
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: the game. I mean, I don't have a really good defense.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know how many, but it was like ten
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: or twelve games without allowing more than twenty points in
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: the game. That's that's not easy to do in that league. Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: No, Davis is one of my more underrated players. Like
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: that you see on on you know a weekly basis.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: He's great.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: They have some corners that are other than Latimore that
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: are starting to play well. Ideum. I think his name
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: is Isaac Yideam on the on the outside. And and
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: then Alante Taylor, who I liked in the draft is
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: playing in the slot for them. The Honey Badger's still
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: a good player. And yeah, they they have a really
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: good secondary.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they had a young a young safety who
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: missed the Bucks game who's back. I think he was
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: a full Jordan Howden.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, howd in Heesoda.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: He had a foot and he's played, Uh, he's played
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: pretty well for them. He was a full participant in practice.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: He didn't play in the the Bucks game. But yeah,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: like that, Like I said that, that Tampa game, it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: seventeen to nine with with with less than less than
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: four minutes left in the game, and and the Bucks.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: You know, the Bucks got nine points in the last
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: you know, they scored nine points in the last minute.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Basically, No, it's it's a good defense. And they're a
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: little bit weak on the at the de tackle position
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: that that's one place that you can run on them
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But Granderson and and Cam Jordan are
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: really good edge pair and and then their secondary is good.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: And I love Davis. Davis is a great player at linebacker.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: All right, eight five to five pass five hundred is
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the ace ticket hotline. Web radio at patries dot com
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: is the email address picks today. So we got a hurry,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So let's get some of our listeners, uh viewpoints. We'll
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: start with Anthony and Seattle. What's up, Anthony, where you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: going do? Oh? Hey, thanks Anthony, appreciate that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Oh thank you, Anthony.
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my pleasure, my pleasure. Hey listen, I'm I guess
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: I know you guys turned the turn the page to
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: the to the Saints, but I couldn't get through on
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: to today and I was busy yesterday. But I'll be brief. Listen, man,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: I'm broken they broke me. Uh and the words of
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: cousin Patty, it's time to uh throw in the throw
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: in the white flag or was it waved the white
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: how my curo predictions? And I was promised I got
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: lunch for you guys. But another part of it is
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: I kind of felt like, I mean, this is my
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: tenth season listening with you guys, and you know, watching
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: on watching that game on Sunday, you just feel so helpless.
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: And I felt like the only sense of control and
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: the only action I could take is like, you guys
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: are my connection to the Patriots, So I'm gonna buy
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: my Patriots family lunch as like the only thing I
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: can do that's within my control.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So we appreciate it more importantly.
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: Than than wins and losses. Man, the Gonzo injury, like
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: it just it just really it just took my soul. Man,
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: it felt like what it felt like to me. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: I'm just gonna get I'll be I'll try to be brief,
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: but it felt like that twenty years of success was
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: like we made a deal with the devil and like
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: this was them coming to collect where it's like, here's
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: the other side of the point, here's your number one pick,
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: just like who looks to be a superstar out the
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: gate and then three games or in a S fours game,
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: we're gonna take him from you. And it's like, oh,
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: come on, and it just you know, I don't it
• 38:12
  Speaker 7: just it broke me, like obviously I'm die hard. I'm
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: not going anywhere. I'll be watching. I'll continue to watch,
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: but it's watching for loyalty. Because I don't really have
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: anything you left.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: No, I hear you. It hurt me too, And thanks again, Anthony,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Anthony.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: You know when when they lost Gonzales and Judea, it
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: killed me.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: That's why I said that was the worst thing that
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: came from me. Anyway, that was the worst.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Part more than losing thirty. I don't care if we
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: lost one hundred to nothing. I'd still say that losing
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: your two best players offense or defense was a killer.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Because even if you're you know, sort of pessimistic, you
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: can you can chock up a bad game to a
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: bad performance like that.
• 38:50
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, so they didn't play well, they turned the ball over,
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the score got out of hand early, and it was
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: just one of those games. But it's hard to do
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: all that and say whoa, and then we're going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: be better now that we are missing our two best players,
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: right Yeah.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: And with Gonzales too, even if they had a six
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: and eleven season, if he continued to look great, at
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: least you would have that the future talk about and
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: sink your teeth into and and all that type of stuff. Yeah, brutal.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I'm right with Anthony on that one. Let's see Robbie's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. What's up Robbie, I.
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: Guys hope we go on.
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I just got a couple of flick ones
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: for you. Yesterday, Evan pointed out that jac is more
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: of a ball hawk. I was wondering if you guys
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: have any concerns if Jack Jones comes back that you
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: may have too many like guys trying to jump routes
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: and things like that. Could we get beat thee if
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Jack it does make it back here in the short term.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: The other the other point I had real quick is
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: take it off the air is do you guys think
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Remandre Struggles is more on the opposive line or do
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: you think it's something with Remandre? I know they and
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: week one they chalked it up that he got an this,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: but you think he gotta be over that by now.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Just wondering if you thought maybe he could be play
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: calling or just off into blind play and I'll take
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: up here.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Thank thanks. First one, Jack Jones too much, too similar
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to J. C. Jackson.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: It's a fair concern, but I think at this point
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: those two guys have proven that they can at least
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: play NFL football. He gotta like that's what you got,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: you know. So I don't know if you can really
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: be too picky in a situation where all these guys
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: at cornerback are hurt.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: With the way the offense is played, you might just
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: have to say, you know, we're gonna give up some plays,
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: but we got to take a shot and see if
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: we could take the ball away.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: What about Remandre?
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I think there's certain things that you could nippick Remandre,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: like individually on I think there are times where there
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: are tough yards to be had there and it might
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: not be this explosive ten plus yard run, but he
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: might be able to get three or four and keep
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: the momentum moving in a positive direct. And sometimes he's
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: been dancing a little bit too much in the backfield, It's.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: True, but sometimes those when he's dancing, the action is
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: happening two yards in the backfield, like the defensive home.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, already, that's why I said they'd picked because it's
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: it's clearly more on the offensive line in the scheme
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: that was. But I think that in some instances, if
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: you want to say, like, is there anything specifically going
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: on with the mare? You know, sometimes as a running
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: back and you just got to lower your head in
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: there and take the three yards and it's second and
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: seven and live, live to play.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: But there are a couple of plays in Dallas where
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: all this trash is happening at his feet and it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: happening three yards in the backfield. You know, it's like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: what's the guy?
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've been on the run game the whole season,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: like there's there's scheme stinks in the run.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Just to add another thing to be concerned about, he
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: pops up on the injury report this week too with
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: a thigh injury.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: So of course, uh, Tim's and Providence, what's up? Tim?
• 41:55
  Speaker 15: I had a couple of points to make. I was
• 41:58
  Speaker 15: thinking about, like the point at which Max seem to
• 42:02
  Speaker 15: have a significant breakdown in his mechanics, and all I
• 42:05
  Speaker 15: can think back to is at Baltimore game where he
• 42:08
  Speaker 15: got injured, you know, and I think he just got boothed.
• 42:12
  Speaker 15: You know, I think he's scared of getting hits.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 42:16
  Speaker 15: That's sort of the ideology of it. I think I
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: think he just And then I think the other thing
• 42:21
  Speaker 15: too is I think, you know, I hate to say it,
• 42:23
  Speaker 15: but I think they got to move away from him,
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: and they got to move away from Bill both and
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: I just think, you know, we're going to end up like,
• 42:31
  Speaker 15: you know, one of these teams with an okay quarterback,
• 42:35
  Speaker 15: maybe like car or Cousins, or We're not We're not
• 42:38
  Speaker 15: going to win anything. And I mean, how long can
• 42:42
  Speaker 15: you can you do that? You've got to take chances.
• 42:44
  Speaker 15: If you don't take rips, you'll never you'll never get anywhere.
• 42:48
  Speaker 15: It's true in every facet of life, business or football.
• 42:52
  Speaker 15: So they got to move on from both of these guys,
• 42:55
  Speaker 15: even if it is a risk. I mean, that's part
• 42:57
  Speaker 15: of life.
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: So right, that's all.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: It's interesting about that the Baltimore game. I thought there
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: was and I'd like to go back and you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: maybe in the offseason look at some of the games
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: late in his rookie year to see if we notice
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: any differences of his pocket presence, because I do think
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: that he had a decent amount of pocket presence and
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: poise early on. And I mean it's no secret he
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: you know, from that bye week one he was completely
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: shut down, with the exception of the two games against
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: the Jets and the Jags. The other games he didn't
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: play well. They didn't move the ball, and I wonder
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: if we started, you know, if you if you went
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: back and looked at those if you'd see the same
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: kind of back throw, backfoot throws and yeah, pressure that
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: we've seen. But the Baltimore game, that's a good point
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: he got. I mean, that was a painful injury, obviously,
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: and maybe that's.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: And up to that point in that game he was
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: playing well.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: That was one of his best games.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I think as a pro, I think that I don't know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: maybe it's just semantics, but like pocket like being afraid
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: to get hit and then being like navigating the pocket
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: well to me or like two different things, right, Like,
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's afraid to get hit, No, because
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: he stands in there and it has been under a
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: ton of pressure in the first month of the season,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: and he's made a lot of really good throws while
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: under pressure. I think the problem for him is more
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: so that he can't get away with throwing off his
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: back foot when he's under pressure, and he can't get
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: away with, you know, the sloppy footwork and mechanics in
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: the pocket because he doesn't have the arm talent to
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: make up for it, like certain guys can throw. Patrick
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Mahomes doesn't need to set his feet right, like if
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: he there's pressure coming down the barrel and he just
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: throws off his back foot like a ball is gonna
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: have plenty of zip on it for Mahomes, for an Allen,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: for those types of guys. For Mac, he's got to
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: figure out ways to navigate the pocket so he so
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: that he can step into the throws absolutely, And that
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I think is different to me than like being afraid
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: to get hit Like. I think that that's more like
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: that sixth sense of having that awareness and that ability
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: to do that, and that's I don't think it an easier.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: I think that's harder to to coach in harder to
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: teach because you don't get hit in practice.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Once you get once you're set like that, when you
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: get hit, it's going to hurt more than if you're
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: already falling backwards. You know, you absorb the hit a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: little bit more, but once you set your feet, you
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: make yourself more vulnerable and you know that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got to deal with it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Let's go to AJ in Pittsburgh. What's up AJ?
• 45:23
  Speaker 16: Hey, guys, thanks, I appreciate you taking the call. No problem,
• 45:28
  Speaker 16: So being from Pittsburgh, I've kind of had to watch
• 45:30
  Speaker 16: the Steelers develop pretty much any wide receiver that they
• 45:33
  Speaker 16: would draft no matter where in the draft that obviously
• 45:37
  Speaker 16: the Patriots struggle and then taking sort in over pick
• 45:40
  Speaker 16: ins with Chase Claypool possibly being available, he's either going
• 45:45
  Speaker 16: to get cut or traded for a late pick. Do
• 45:48
  Speaker 16: you think that's a flyer that the Patriots would take?
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Yes, yep, one hundred Do I think they would take it?
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty percent?
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Do I think they should? They should be taking it?
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Probably not, but like that's the tone type of move
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: that they'll make. Yeah, well that's.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: The But you know, unlike a lot of these guys
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that free up, I don't see a lot of clamor
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: from fans like oh, we should take him, Like I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: see the opposite, Like, yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: I think that's because we're over it, Like, you know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: like Chase Claypool, Jalen Rager, like they're all the it's
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: all the same, right, he's failed early draft.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: It's been a while since those kind of reclamation projects
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: are really hit, and I think that's why we've seen
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: less of it. But yeah, I definitely agree with Evan
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: that I think that's right in the right in Bill
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: Belichick's wheelhouse. I think that's a move that he will
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: be looking to make.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I remember a few It was when he was still
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. I feel like it was a couple of
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: years ago, and he compared his catch radius to Gronks
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: catch radius.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: He was like, oh, yeah, Chase Claypool his career. I
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: don't know if there's just something missing there, you know,
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: and it just doesn't.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: The Patriots signing if he gets released outright, and the
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Patriots signing Chase Claypool to the practice squad is is
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: a lock.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, if they really have any interest him, I
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: would suggest sending us doing the same thing, you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: send a seventh round pick for you know, or whatever,
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: a sixth round pick for a seventh round pick and
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: get him, because why you have to fight the rest
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: of the league for him.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: But I do wonder, like, you know, we talk about
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Parker and Mac, and you know, maybe it's Mac missing,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: And I just wonder what Belichick and O'Brien think is
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: really the problem. And maybe they have a higher opinion
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of the wide receivers than we do.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's definitely true.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And so in that case, we don't need to bring
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: into Claypool. We need to get our line right, we
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: need to get mac right.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I one hundred percent that's true. I mean, Belichick defended
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: the the skill talent on Monday on EI. You know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: they came out after him about it then, and he said,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think you know, I think we got plenty
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: of talent on offense. I don't think that's the problem.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: So I that's a whole different, bigger picture discussion of
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: whether he's right about that or whatever. But it doesn't.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Matter what they think, because that's going to dictate what.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Theys like that that if that's the strongest argument for
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: those who want to move on from Bill, Yeah, to me,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: his comments.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Like that, Yeah, if you had to like rate based
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: off just what he said, I'm not even like trying
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: to like read his mind. The things that he feels
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: are the problem with the offense number one, by far
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: as turnovers, like he would like that, he doesn't. I've
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: never heard him talk more about turnovers in in his
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: time as the coach. Here in my time covering him,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: all he talks about is he said on Monday that
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: the reason why they beat the Jets is because they
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: didn't turn the ball over and they didn't get sacked.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: And I would argue the reason why they beat the
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: Jets is because the Jets couldn't score. The other three
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: teams they played could right, So if they played clean
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: against the Jets, only the Jets had the Dolphins offense,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: they would have lost.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so turnovers is I'm sure is number one. Number
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: two and number three are a combination of Mac in
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: the offensive line, like whichever. I don't know what order
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: he would put those in, but yeah, like those are
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: the three, and I would assume Mac is higher than
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: the offensive line because he's the one turning it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Over, so you know, but they're a point those three.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: And then I think like skill, talent and receiving and
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: all that, and that's at the bottom.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, all right, thanks AJ. Appreciate the call.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: But I think Claypool, Yeah, that's a patriot kind.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Of somebody else's trash is your you know, Todd's in
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: North Carolina.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I hate Todd.
• 49:25
  Speaker 17: Hey, guys, you.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: Know, let's just focus on something positive. I think that
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: if they actually addressed the O line, they get a
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: couple of guys in, you know, they might be able
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: to take make something out of this season. I think,
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: you know, we're starting to see some of the experiment
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: with Mac may have been a failure. And that's fine.
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: We can move on, we can get something thing, but
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: we need some foundation for whoever we get in there.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: We need an NO line and then we can start
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: looking for a receiver, because I think that's the order.
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: I don't think if we bring anybody in we don't
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: have an O line, We're we're toast. We're just not
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: going to get there. And that's the biggest need I
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: see right now.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel that's fixable. I mean, you don't
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: have to, you know, help that O line by using
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: up first round draft picks.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: You know, I wouldn't mind using one. Yeah, I mean
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: I don't. It doesn't necessarily have to be next year.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: But like I wouldn't mind taking a franchise left.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: But I think you can find, you know, some really
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: good offensive line.
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Largely I agree with you.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: So I think if you wanted to take one small
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: silver lining from the offensive mess that was on Sunday,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Antonio Maffi actually played pretty well in that game. I thought,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: I thought he was one of their better linemen. Frankly,
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: and if he's somebody that now can actually play guard
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: and play well for them the rest of the season,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: then then maybe you have something there and that that
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: at least shores up one of the two spots that
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: have been a little bit of a weak point, you know, guard,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: left guard and right tackle. I'm confident that that big
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Mike will figure it out, like I You know, so
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: left guard and tackle have been your two week points
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: and if Mafi's gonna play left guard at a at
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: a starter level, then at least you filled one of those.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: And I'm with you, Fred, like I think you can
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: patch a line together. A million teams do it. I've
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: seen Tom Brady do it. I think that if you
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: had better players, the line wouldn't look as bad. Now
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: I'm not telling you, I'm not giving the line a pass.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: They've been bad, right, But I mean I've seen some
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: bad offensive lines get worked around, right because you have
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: better players.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But you know, like like in the grand scheme of things,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: if the offensive line is your biggest problem, to me,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: that's fixable. Maybe not this.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's the biggest problem, but it's but you.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Can fix that next year. If quarterbacks your biggest problem.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: That's tough.
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: It's one of those things. It's one of those things
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: where like everybody can have an opinion on this and
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: everybody's right. Yeah, Like you could say the offensive line
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: is the biggest problem. I'm not gonna argue.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I've watched it.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: I've watched too, just like you guys have.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's been bad. I think it is
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: their biggest problem. But at the same time, it's their
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: biggest problem because of who the quarterback is.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: That's my point, right, Like, so it wouldn't be the
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: biggest problem if Tom Brady was thirty five years old
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: playing behind now No, but.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Because of who the quarterback is, Like, he has to
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: throw from clean pockets and he has to trust the
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: pocket and he can't be bailing out of it. Didn't
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: do it all this stuff. So if the line is
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: not holding up, then that's gonna exacerbate those issues.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Gabs in Tennessee. What's up, Gabe? Oh?
• 52:11
  Speaker 18: Hey, how you guys doing? Big fan of the show?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Thanks?
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Thanks Gabe.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: Uh So, I didn't want to.
• 52:16
  Speaker 18: I didn't want to come up all pessimistic, crazy thing.
• 52:19
  Speaker 18: You know, there's still thirteen games.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: We have does for that but he's not here right now.
• 52:24
  Speaker 18: There's still a lot of ball that he's played, right
• 52:25
  Speaker 18: But I don't think Bill Belichick would ever sell. But
• 52:30
  Speaker 18: if these next three four games start to just really
• 52:34
  Speaker 18: go downhill, do you guys think that we could trade
• 52:35
  Speaker 18: any anyone away at the deadlines.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: It's a good question. Sure.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I wonder if I wonder if one of the veteran
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: receivers Kendrick Bourne, who's in a contract year and is
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: a free agent now a candidate.
• 52:50
  Speaker 18: I've seen the tight ends get tossed around on a
• 52:52
  Speaker 18: couple of social media posts. You know, I think it's sicky.
• 52:55
  Speaker 18: I've seen the woman respector Hunter Henry got thrown in there.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're both on one year, you know,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: contract years as well.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: I would put Kasiki in the higher probability of that
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: than than Henry. I see. I think they really like Henry, yeah,
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: and they.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Probably been their most consistent guy.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: But but but that's not really what I'm relating it to.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: I just think that they probably look at him as
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: he's a guy we can we can retain him, you know,
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: whereas Kasiki might be a one and done kind of
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: guy and you could get something for him like you
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: said to what, you know, an offense looking for a piece.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be surprised at all if
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne has traded at the deadline, if it goes south.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Now, if it really goes south, could you get like
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: a contending team to to give you something for Uce? Yeah,
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: I probably who continues to be even with you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: I just look at like it doesn't play a ton some.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Of the wide receiver trades. And obviously the one around
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: here that that gets the most play is Mohammed Sanu.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: But the Patriots gave up a second round pick for
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Mohammed Sanu.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Well they were desperate at the time.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but like that's the market and sometimes in
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: the mid all of the season at the deadline for
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: wide receivers, if a team's gonna give you a top
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: one hundred pick for Kendrick Bourne, like you have to
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: make that trade. You have to like that. That's that's
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: a slam dunk trade. And especially if you have three
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: wins at the time or whatever.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: I think the next two games are gonna you know,
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: if they split these two games and then you lose
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: to Buffalo, maybe it's time to think about selling.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Thanks Gabe. Let's see Christian in LA. What's up Christian?
• 54:27
  Speaker 13: Hey you guys, a good day. Good to talk to
• 54:30
  Speaker 13: you again. So for me, the writings start of on
• 54:33
  Speaker 13: the wall with the season. There's not really a band
• 54:36
  Speaker 13: aid that we could apply at any point during during
• 54:39
  Speaker 13: the season to really fix it. And I think the
• 54:42
  Speaker 13: paths that we're that we're on will probably lead us
• 54:44
  Speaker 13: to a significantly high draft pick.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: I'm saying we just stepped back. We let the season
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: play out. We have to play out in my opinion,
• 54:55
  Speaker 13: max contract anyway. But what I really wanted to to
• 55:00
  Speaker 13: ask you guys and get your opinion about, is do
• 55:03
  Speaker 13: you think it's all plausible that we sort of take
• 55:07
  Speaker 13: like a sort of a one eighty on the way
• 55:09
  Speaker 13: we've been approaching the draft. I know it was really
• 55:11
  Speaker 13: early with draft, but typically we'll gather twenty thirty picks
• 55:16
  Speaker 13: rights many picks as we could possibly get, and we'll
• 55:18
  Speaker 13: get a bunch of middling players. Is there a possibility
• 55:21
  Speaker 13: or possibility for us doing sort of what the Texans
• 55:24
  Speaker 13: or the Eagles in and where we package a bunch
• 55:26
  Speaker 13: of our picks and say we just want to get
• 55:28
  Speaker 13: too high caliber first round pick a high caliber tackle
• 55:32
  Speaker 13: and a high caliber receiver. We'll give up the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,
• 55:36
  Speaker 13: and seventh round picks the package everyone and get two
• 55:39
  Speaker 13: really high picks in the first or first and second rounds.
• 55:42
  Speaker 13: Does that make any sense to you, guys?
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have to dig into twenty twenty five.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: I mean you're not going to be able to move
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: up significantly in the first round by giving third, fourth, fifth,
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: sixth round picks. Yeah, you have to give first round
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: picks in a future year to do that.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 13: What did the Texans and the Eagles, because they both
• 56:00
  Speaker 13: seem to have done something that.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Last No, the Eagles, the Eagles had that pick for
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: that they used to draft Jalen Carter from a separate trade.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: That that was what it was.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: The one with Miami wasn't.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Miami, it wasn't. I think it was Miami, right,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: I couldn't remember off the top of my head. But
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: that wasn't Like they didn't The Eagles didn't move up
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: in the first round this year. They they had that
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: pick going into the draft from a previous trade.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: What about the Texas The Texas Texans traded the twelfth
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: pick and the thirty third pick and it's twenty twenty
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: four first and third rounder to the Cardinals. Uh for
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: number three and one oh five.
• 56:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah, could we do something like that because it seemed
• 56:37
  Speaker 13: like the league is moving to an impact player league
• 56:40
  Speaker 13: where building your your team with middling players that get
• 56:43
  Speaker 13: made better by a quarterback or someone that raises their
• 56:46
  Speaker 13: level of play doesn't seem like it's in the cars
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: for us in the next couple of years, at least
• 56:50
  Speaker 13: as long as we play out Max contract. Does it
• 56:53
  Speaker 13: make sense for us to dig into that twenty twenty
• 56:55
  Speaker 13: five basket of picks and try to do what the
• 56:58
  Speaker 13: Texans did.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: It's a completely outlandish theory. I just don't. I don't
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: think you have the GM that's going to do that. Like,
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: if it's somebody else that's in that chair, then then
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: I could definitely see it. I mean, look at like
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Casario just did it, and he's a Belichick guy, and
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: he did it anyways, So I think it's possible that
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: that's like a sound way of going about it. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: just don't think that Bill ever would.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: And I don't think it. I mean, the mac Jones
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: part of it is a huge part of whether or
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: not I would even contemplate. If you think that mac
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Jones is part of the future and you want to like,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: then I would do something like that. If not, then
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: I think you got to rebuild, and I don't think
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: you want to.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we'll see, Like the Texans are off
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: to a pretty good start, like relatively and c J.
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: Strut whoaller right, but you had that pick, yeah, and
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: now you're trying to like get around to the journey.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Mean you have that guy, right, and you right exactly
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: If you do what Christian's saying, you might be giving
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: up your opportunity to get that quarterbale.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Or you're giving up your opportunity to get anything else
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: with the quarterback. Now, listen, c J. Stroud has played
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: four games. I'm not ready to annoint him. He's off
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: to a good start. But the difference to me is
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: they they knew they were going to get Stroud and
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: then they wanted to get Will Anderson too, Right.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: So the question is is, like, you know, I think
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: that saying like if Max's gonna play, if we're gonna
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: play out Max contract, I agree with you, Paul, that do.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: But what the Texans said was we have the number
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: two pick in the draft. We're going to use that
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: on CJ. Stroud, but we also have Will Anderson rated
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: very highly on our board, so we're going to trade it.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: I want them both the draft, Will Anderson. But the
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Texans had what the twelfth pick or something like that
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: to move up from, Like the Patriots only have one
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: first round pick.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: So let's just say they have twelve.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well they don't have two in twelve, right, But
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: even if they have, if they have two, then they're
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: not they're taking a quarterback, right, like, you know, so
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: like they're starting over completely, Like Mac isn't going to
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: be a part of the equation.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: So if it's just twelve, I don't want to give
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: up the twenty five first round pick. And you know,
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: probably one of those pick was probably like a third
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: round or something.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: But if you were talking me into they have, you know, twelve,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: and then they have like whatever that equivalent is in
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: the second round, you know, thirty nine or whatever it is,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: and they want to trade back into the first round
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: with thirty nine. You know, Now we're getting into a
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: whole getting me a white Barty.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: But I don't I don't know, and I don't hate
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: I don't hate the idea was that Christian in la
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: I don't like, I like, I like aggressive trades in
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: the draft. I think if you look at, the biggest
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: single reason that Kansas City and Buffalo are in the
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: situations they are is because they were very bold with
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: dramatic moves up in the first round.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: Get to get I think a lot of teams are
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: if you look at you know a lot of these
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: teams that have rebuilt on the fly really quickly. A
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: lot of the trading and the draft has been more aggressive.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: And to Kirshion's point, the draft pick is only as
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: good as the player it turns into, right, So like,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: you know, just accumulating all these draft picks for them
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: to turn into you know, guys that that aren't going
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: to play in the league.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: And Miami and Philadelphia ye have used it well in
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: and I would say even the other side, San Francisco
• 1:00:00
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• 1:00:03
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• 1:00:07
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• 1:03:16
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  Speaker 12: So the discussion is between which is it's all pretty relevant, right,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: especially with MLS playoffs coming up, but messy coming to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 12: the MLS, Taylor Swift attending two NFL games and coach Prime.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 17: Yeah, and his impact on college football this hy yah
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 17: so kicked off?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 12: I mean, so there's two ways to look at this,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 12: Like obviously with recency bias.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: What Taylor Swift did the past to two weeks is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: just so insane.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 12: I mean, I think sports media took the joke way
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 12: too far and was really corny about it. But looking
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 12: at this from a business perspective, there was at least
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 12: a four hundred percent spike in his Jersey sales. I mean,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 12: we all saw that tweet going around his podcast. Number
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 12: one he's had, like I think the last number I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 12: saw was between three hundred and six hundred thousand new
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 12: Instagram followers.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: And then just the NFL has seen this too. I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: mean the Kansas City Chiefs New York Jets game that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 12: Really had no business having a million viewers, Yes, second
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 12: most watched NFL game of the season since I think
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 12: the second most game watch game watch game since the
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 12: Super Bowl last.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Season, Right yeah, I think so.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: So that's bananas.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 14: She just attended the game like That's the thing is like,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 14: if you look at like Coach Prime and MESSI obviously
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 14: like Messi's playing, Coach Prime is coaching. She's just a fan.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 14: Like she's literally just there watching the game, chilling with
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 14: Mam m Kelsey.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 17: And I will say I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift fan,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 17: but like the percentage Spike and teenage girls that started
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 17: watching the NFL, just like the past two weeks was
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 17: like up by sixty percent.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 12: I think you had already that upward trajectory with like
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 12: Joe Burrow and Jaalen Hrs and the TikTok girls who
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 12: love him, but like this, really, I mean there's at
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 12: least interest.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: Right, So my thing is, I don't know how longwithstanding
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: this will be.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know. I think they're really dating.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 12: I think it probably goes back a lot longer than
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 12: I think. Travis talking about trying to give her the
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 12: friendship bracelet with his phone number on it.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I think that was their soft launch.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I think they had like people trace back,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 12: people with way more time on their hands than I have,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 12: traced back this relationship to when Travis was in Nashville
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: doing tight End University and Taylor was in Nashville for
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: I believe the Errors tour, so people that's when they
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 12: first met. But even Taylor playing at Arrowhead was months
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 12: before Travis ever released that SoundBite on their New Heights podcast. Right,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 12: So a lot of people are starting to leave that
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 12: was their soft launch, and now they've just kind of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 12: drummed this up into this really awesome marketing campaign. I mean,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 12: Taylor has a movie coming out that the NFL showing
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 12: promos for in primetime games, Like it's all like this
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 12: isn't just like, oh, new relationship, I'm gonna go to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 12: my boyfriend's game. We all know how calculated Taylor is.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 12: My question is how long will this kind of carrie
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 12: like this bump for the NFL. Whereas I mean not
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 12: to gloss over coach Prime and stuff and his just
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 12: the character that he has. But Messi and what he
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 12: brings to MLS has the opportunity to really, I think,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 12: just totally begin a new chapter of MLS. I will
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 12: really take it to new heights.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 17: I will say, as the former college soccer player here,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 17: what Messi has done the past year is absurd. Inter
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 17: was a bottom of the table team. They had eight
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 17: hundred thousand followers and within the month and a half
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 17: they have like nine point one. To put that into perspective,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 17: the Patriots have four point nine million followers.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 12: I mean, Messi is one of the top two, if
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 12: not three, if not two most followed Instagram accounts, yeah,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 12: in the world, And that's the thing like we lose
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 12: sight of the US little bubble that we're in to
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 12: the global superstars that soccer players are, especially of a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 12: Messi or Rinaldo caliber.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 17: He's selling out stadiums that he's not even playing.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: Because they have turf.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: You won't even play on turf. And he's still selling
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: out those Chicago.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 17: Sold out yesterday. He didn't touch the field. I don't
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 17: even know if he traveled. The lowest tickets were going
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 17: for like three point fifty a pop. Gillette, He's like,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 17: he we're playing them next year. It's gonna sell out,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 17: and he's probably not gonna play because we have turf.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 17: It's it's crazy.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 14: I feel like your point two about like just like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 14: his impact is more like a culture impact here in
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 14: the US, Like I'm not personally a huge soccer fan,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 14: but like I'm interested now because it is huge. But
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 14: like I think to your point, Taylor Swift is like
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 14: a spike, and like she'll have her movie. I think
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 14: she'll go keep going to games, like we'll see, hopefully
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 14: she comes here in December.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: We'll see.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 14: But like I think that's gonna be a media spike.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 14: But considering it's only been a week and like the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 14: general public is starting to get annoyed by it now,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 14: like there's only so many Yeah, there's only so many plugs.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 14: They're gonna be able to do to ride it out.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 14: But I mean, even just like her attending a game,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 14: it's getting millions of likes on TikTok and stuff for
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 14: the NFL. But I think Messi's impact is like it's
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 14: gonna withstand years. I'm not gonna lose all those followers ever.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 14: Like it now it's important. Now it's relevant, and someone
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 14: like me who doesn't even like soccer that much is
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 14: now interested.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 17: I also want to talk about coach Prime, so I
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 17: don't know if it's impact. I mean because he has
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 17: like the craziest poll ever. I just think he's the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 17: first coach to take full advantage of nil transfer portal
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 17: social media, and that's going to change the whole landscape
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 17: of college football.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really just a personality that's so like it's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: crazy struggling to find the word, but he's just such
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: like just draws you in.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 17: Like the aura is crazy aura Like if like, if
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 17: you're a kid, would you rather go get yelled at
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 17: by Nick Saban in Alabama or like walk out of
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 17: a tunnel with coach Prime, it's just crazy or he's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 17: getting like the most absurd kids. He says to himself,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 17: he's like, we're not the best team yet, but he's
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 17: like I'm a couple of guys away from changing my
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 17: complete team. And it's only his first year.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 14: I mean even just like their first game, like to
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 14: look at their season last year and like like how
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 14: terrible it was just to like their first game, like, yeah,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 14: they're not a great team yet, but even in that
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 14: offseason and like the amount of impact he was able
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 14: to have, and then even just like his I love
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 14: his press conference quote about like what about me would
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 14: make me? Like make you think that I care about
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 14: your opinion of me? Like I think that attitude is
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 14: going to take him so far. I mean he's always
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 14: kind of had it. I mean that's not like that's
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 14: not a new thing for him, but I mean if
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 14: I was a college athlete like looking to see what
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 14: school to go to, like that's the kind of coach
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 14: that I want.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 12: And not only and that's the thing about the branding,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 12: you guys know, I'm I love the marketing, I love
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 12: the business angles and just to go to a school
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 12: like Colorado and kind of put them on the map culturally,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 12: like you have celebrities rolling up to your game.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: I told you now, destination to go to one of these.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 12: Football games because who are you going to see, Who's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 12: going to be there, what storylines are going to come
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 12: out of it, just what it's doing for their athletic program.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 17: I mean, I mean I said, like I saw the tweet.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 17: I was one of the people. I was up at
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 17: three am watching Colorado versus Colorado State, and I was invested.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 12: And I would love to see the year over year
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 12: revenue that they've brought in when this season's done, compared
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 12: to last season. I would love to see their TV
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 12: ratings year over year.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's literally all contributed to him.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 17: So all it has to take is pretty much MESSI
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 17: needs to be playing the Colorado Rapids. Travis Kelsey and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 17: Taylor Swift need to watch a team that week, and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 17: then they're all going to be there, and that's going
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 17: to be a media shutdown pretty much.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 12: So in my hometown, we have a saccer specific stadium.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 12: I'm sure that there's enough construction workers in my hometown
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 12: of blood Low, mass who would rip that turf up
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 12: so quick, put in some nice grass for MESSI to
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 12: come play the revs. I'm just trying to give mister
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: Kraft just some ideas here.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 17: It's hints it's worth it. I mean the cost you
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 17: would take to rip up the grass or rip up
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 17: the turf, put some grass down, you'll make it back
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 17: one game and.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think yeah, and I don't think we should have.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 12: That brings up the whole argument of turf first grass,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 12: which let's do a future you have time show on
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 12: because I have some studies and some statistics.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, that's a rabbit hole for me.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 17: I'm with you on that, guys. Any last words you
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 17: want to bring up on biggest media impact are we?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 17: Are we under consensus? That is messy for sports. I
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  Speaker 17: know you guys were talking about Taylor Swift, but I
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  Speaker 17: think straight sports wise, I think the Taylor Swift football
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  Speaker 17: thing is gonna eventually burn out.
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  Speaker 12: I'm so conflicted because I'm a Swiftie, but I'm not
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 12: one of those like I'm embarrassed of, like the crazy
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 12: Swifties like I'm I try to be like a silent
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 12: one even though everyone knows I am.
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  Speaker 3: But I also like I do really love soccer. I
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: think it has to be messy.
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  Speaker 14: God, I feel like there's like rankings to it, like
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 14: messy overall for sports.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift start cut.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, literally starting messy. You're benching Taylor Taylor, and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 14: I'm sorry, but you gotta cut coach Prime.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 17: I'm benching coach Prime and cutting Taylor. But that's just me, guys.
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  Speaker 12: Sounds like a bias, but I understand it because it's
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 12: been insufferable as it has. Don't cancel me, fellow swifties,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 12: but it's been insufferable.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, all right, guys, ladies, sorry, thank you for joining up.
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  Speaker 9: I think the next time we're going to talk about
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 9: draft vers Turf. I'm like, he say, talk, all right,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 9: let's get back to the show.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 20: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 20: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 20: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 20: now it's next for residential delivery only.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: And now great moments in.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: History.
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  Speaker 21: I just don't want to race out to a lead,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 21: and you know, get your watch Brady right touchdown, you know,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 21: fourth quarter you're up like fourteen, or saying that touchdown
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 21: touchdown like ah.
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  Speaker 9: No, like here, And that's what he's done to so
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: many teams.
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  Speaker 11: And you understand how maddening it is when you think
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 11: got him the whole game and then all of a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 11: sudden it just clicks and it's like, oh, they just
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 11: want Berzerker mode and you can't stop them.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: Cracks me up. I just don't want to have a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: lead and have a break.
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  Speaker 11: I don't I don't want to go through another twelve words.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 11: You're gonna see me kidnapping them after the game, like
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 11: bringing them back.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: What we are on the radio.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from score Big. With Bob's unbeatable
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: savings on power reclining furniture perfect for game dey viewing.
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  Speaker 1: With features like hid and drop down tables for snacks
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: and BEVs and convenient USB ports, Paul will never have
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: to get up and miss a play, but only when
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you shop at Bob's, the official furniture store of the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: Uh So at halftime, but you're getting all professional with
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: the ad libs in the middle.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Of the read. We gave you, well, we gave away
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: another Game day poster.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, so it's time for Mike and Paul to guess that.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Do you know the answers already? I don't know I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: have any.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So they did some trivia. We had three winners.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: First question was what was Tom Brady's first Madden rating?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 9: This was Madden one sixty nine, don't don't care.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: It was fifty seven. And the winner was bart and Poland. Bart,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to somehow get that poster to Poland.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can handle that. You might
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: have to like deliver it yourself.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: We're all counting on it.
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  Speaker 9: Find there.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: Can we drop it on the way to Germany?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: I just gonna say that, Yeah, can you meet us
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: in Germany? How many international games? Speaking of Germany, have
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the Patriots played?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: Oh, that's a good question. Say four?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Wrong, I'm gonna say five, three?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: Three?
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  Speaker 11: Uh?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Meghan and Kansas got that that now.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 5: So we're not counting like Canada Mexico.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: We're not counting preseason either, Okay, Yeah, so it's just
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: what in London?
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  Speaker 5: That's right, all right? I was counting one in Canada?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 9: What was Canada.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: I believe they played in Canada in the preseason.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: So they also played in Japan in the preseason.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: The Patriots did, Yeah, didn't they. I didn't know Japan?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Huh. I thought they did.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 9: I mean you'd be the one to know.
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  Speaker 1: A long time ago.
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  Speaker 5: Terrell Davis, I think has had a preseason game when
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: he was a maybe maybe I'm thinking in Japan anyway.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Third one was Patriots chairman and CEO Robert Craft's first
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: game as owner of the team was a preseason game
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: in Foxborough against the Saints. What year was that game played?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: Nineteen ninety four?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: That's correct, Josh and Dallas got that one.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 9: Josh, that's there that one. No, no got the tickets
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 9: ninety five for sure.
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  Speaker 5: For me that was my first year.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: I mean seize tickets though when you were a fawn.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: Oh as a fawn. As a fawn, I didn't.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Jeff and Brooklyn writes in are you guys being serious
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: about all these T shirts? Or is it a joke?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: What kind of one to three directionless team is busy
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: praying to the silk screen. This is an upsetting sign
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: but fits with the effort on the field in general.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Search for leadership you know.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: What, that's a really harsh email, But I don't think
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 5: he's wrong. Like, what are we thinking about right now?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: Are we thinking about trying to fix this or are
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: we thinking about the next pithy slogan we can come
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: up with?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, hey, and I'm a T shirt guy, you know that.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 9: But I mean, no one was coming. I mean that's
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 9: almost that more APPA pro this week that no one
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 9: is coming.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: It's up to us.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: But yeah, there's there's a few different.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: Even better if they were good at it.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 11: Can I do a little teas real quick, fred I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: just because I just spoke with Deon Branch for about
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 11: twenty minutes for the three h four project.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 9: Anthony he's the best. I mean, that guy is just
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 9: the nicest guy.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 11: Had some great stories about winning the Super Bowl MVP,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 11: little little nugget, little teaser that he shared with me.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 11: I guess his dad and his uncle are huge Steeler fans,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 11: and so before that AFC Championship game in four, he
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 11: said they were like razing them, being like, well, we
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 11: want you to play well, but you can't win, you know,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 11: And so he said it started the night before and
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 11: then of course we know he like they both end started.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: I mean, I brought up the famous line from Charlie
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: Weis's like, you.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 11: Know, Dean, it's gonna be you one on one with
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 11: the safety and I don't want to start the game
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 11: with a touchdown. And we had a rushing touchdown receiving touchdown.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 11: But he said that was you know, part of his
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 11: motivation to go out and have that big game was
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 11: you know, prove his dad and his uncle wrong.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 9: And so it was cool monster, great stuff, great stuff,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 9: great stuff about him winning the MVP.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 11: And you know how surreal it was when they came
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 11: and tapped him and he told me Rodney Harrison said,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 11: you know, if I if he said he was going
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 11: to get the MVP, but he got that second interception
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 11: too late at the end, and so you know, Rodney
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 11: was saying, I should have been the MVP.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: Intil was like, you got to get that and second
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 9: interception sooner.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: So didn't he break his arm in that game? Rodney?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 11: The three one he did and O four he got
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 11: the interception at the end and then him and Rabel
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 11: they're like running through the field. So yep, thank you
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 11: to Dean Branch and uh note that we'll be putting
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 11: that project together, so stay tuned for this next couple
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 11: of months.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Michael in Texas writes in I've been genuinely thrown off
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: with Evan's voice this week, and I think I figured
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: it out. The only answer I'll accept is the change
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: in his voice was caused by a chemical reaction following
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: a young man's loss of the last remaining facet of
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: joy he held dear from the Brady era. This last
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Sunday single handedly crushed those childhood memories. But listen, Evan,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: while it hurts like no other hurt you've felt before,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: you are now that much stronger and will truly appreciate
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: the team's successes moving forward that much more. Godspeed, brother Evan,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: and welcome to the pain.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 9: Oh now, Evan does take these things hard, like I'm like,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 9: I mean, he's like, it's.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 11: Like he's on the team sometime, like you see he's
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 11: the offensive coordinator. But yep, he's already.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: It's been a long time for any sport really that
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: I've cared, no, no, no, taking it like that.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, holy crass. I mean in my college now
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: I invest that that's my.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like Northeastern for you, I was gonna
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: say for me, like, my school doesn't have a football
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: team anymore, like, you know, I don't know.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: They still got a women's volleyball team though, you like
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: all the sports?
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: Are they good in that?
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I'm still confused? What is your team? Well?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: I went to BEU, I know, and they don't even
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: have a football team, right, Oh, so Northeastern doesn't.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Either, right, So that's why I'm confused.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: They both they both don't.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 9: Have to right, all right, they have football. When you
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 9: were there a b you yeah, oh yeah, what was
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 9: that guy's name?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: And then that was Robert Doby remember he was a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: little after me.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 21: Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: They weren't very good in football.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I went to a couple of games when he was
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: the quarterback, Dorty.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: Because they were good. Yeah, that's what you do, you
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: jump on people's bandway what was good?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Though? They were they like they went to the I think.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: The second round of the playoffs like FCS, and the
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: playoffs was smaller than too. There's more teams make the
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: playoffs now.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 9: I remember the buzz though early nineties.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah he beat Did you go to the Dorty games?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: They beat Northern Iowa at Nickerson Field in the first round.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: Of the one Double A playoffs. I want to say
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: ninety three, ninety four, sometime around then, Northern Iowa quarterbacked
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: by Kirk Warner. Kurt Warner, and this number one receiver
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: was a famous number seventeen in the Patriots receiving annals. Gosh,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: Dietrick Award.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 9: Detrick Ward. Wow, All right time, good good call outs.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. We got a hurry.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Dan's in Minnesota. What's up, Dan?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 16: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, I uh,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna do this real briefly. I just in an
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 16: effort to maybe add some positivity. I got a little
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 16: game for all of you to play. I'm gonna call
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 16: it by the bye. There's six games to the bye,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 16: and I'd like you to rank the following three things
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 16: from most likely to be true to least likely to
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 16: be true.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 13: By the bye.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 16: Then happened to hurry, thank the same three things in
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  Speaker 16: the order that you think would be the most impactful.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 13: If they were are true.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Lost.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 9: Okay, okay, let's jump in.
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  Speaker 16: So the three things are. Taekwon Thornton has twenty five
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 16: receptions and four hundred yards receiving with four touchdowns by
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 16: the bye. But yeah, second thing is the same, five
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 16: offensive linemen have played six straight games by the bye,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 16: and the third thing is.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 7: The defense and.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 16: Special teams combined have scored for touchdowns by the bye.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I'll go with see little game. Okay, I'll go, let's
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: see good game.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: So wait a minute, we're trying to set up how
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: like them?
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like one that would.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: Be the most important, but important the most important.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 16: Things first of all, rankom for most likely to be
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 16: true to the least likely to be true, and those
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 16: things would which would be most past I would.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: Say the most I would say the most likely to
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: be true is the five offensive lineman play for six games.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: I would say the second most likely to be true
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: is the four touchdowns for the defense, and the third
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: most likely to be true is Taekwon Thornton having like
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: four hundred yards and six touchdowns, saying four touchdowns in
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: six games six. The thing that would probably impact the
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: most would be Thornton. If Thornton exploded.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Like that, Yeah, that would have the biggest of the
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: least likely Yep, all right, well, by the bye, big
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: setup for the game, but good good. I like the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: thought process. Cousin Chris is in North Carolina. What's up?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 13: Hey, what's going on?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 22: I just got one problem, you know, and.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: You only have one. You're in good shape.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 22: Is the wide receiver situation.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 22: I keep hearing people say do trash, but we said
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 22: nasal alcalore. You know, we said the same thing about
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 22: John Van Smith. And now on other teams they have
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 22: one hundred plus you know what I'm saying yards in
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 22: the game, Like they got the one hundred yard games
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 22: this season. So to me, I feel like it's the
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 22: Patriots inability to develop certain my receivers, you know, like
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 22: Toad Kwon sort and come on the field his first
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 22: past the twenty yard contested bomb. That's not like how
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 22: you get those guys developed. You gotta get their hands
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 22: warm on short hitches, drags and things like that. So
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 22: I feel like it's not necessarily the way I receive it,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 22: that's the problem. Because Brady never had a lead favorite,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 22: but he knew how to get em and scheme element
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 22: open every game or during the game, you know. So
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 22: that's my issue, That's all I wanted to say.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that you make an
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: interesting point, and I think it's more about the quarterback
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: than it's the coach, but I don't know that to
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: be accurate. Agal, I think was the guy that we
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: watched in camp last year. We all thought he looked
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: much better and yep flying and you know, he opens
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: the season he makes a couple of contested catches the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: touchdown against the Steelers, and then he fumbles against Baltimore
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: and that was it like that he stinks, he sinks,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: he's out.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know he was well, he was at
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 11: least at times we saw flashes from him of like
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 11: you know, especially in training camp and and OTA's especially
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 11: I remember him catching a couple bombs that was when
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 11: they were in Bombs Away mood and O TA. But
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 11: like with Juju and John ou Smith, it just has
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 11: never looked right to me. It's never looked in rhythm.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 11: It's never like it just doesn't look like it fits.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 11: And I and it's a really good question of what
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 11: is Atlanta doing now with John ou Smith to you know,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 11: have him have some production. But I mean i'd put
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 11: this more on like the Mohammed Sanu, you know guys
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: that it just it just doesn't look right out there,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 11: and it never like you've never seen anything out of Juju,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 11: Like there was never a time in training camp we
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 11: came away it was like nice day for Juju.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 9: Like he maybe had a couple of little catches couple,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 9: but never like.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: My feeling, I'm with you, Mike, and we've been talking
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: about this. I just feel like it was underrated the
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: amount of space he had last year to operate with
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: with Kelsey and Mahomes, and I just think that was
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: really sort of overlooked.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 11: It's it's it's a it's a situation that I really
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 11: I wonder how this is going to evolve, not just
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 11: you know, the rest of this year. I mean, he's
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 11: under contract two more years supposedly, Like I don't know
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 11: if they're gonna be able to figure anything out with him,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 11: but I just at some point he needs to be productive.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 11: They can't keep throwing on the ball and have him
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 11: come away, you know, five targets, one catch for twelve
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 11: yards or whatever.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 9: It was like, it's just not good enough.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, our phone thing went down all of a sudden,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I see Matt running around abooting. All right, let's see
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: get to some of these emails. Caleb from Florida. I'm
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: a diehard fan of both the Patriots and Red Sox
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: love the occasional Red Sox talk from Evan, and I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: cannot help but notice a lot of similarity. He's on
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: the situations dominated for a good amount of the New
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: Century and are pretty dang close to rock bottom with
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the decisions being made by the higher ups, free agency
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: signings that seem exciting at the time but don't fit
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: the needs of the team whatsoever, in a serious lack
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: of leadership on the field, with guys like Brady Groan,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: mccordy Bogarts, and Jad Martinez departing from the city. Given
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox promising minor league system and potentially a
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: top ten pick in the draft for the Patriots, which
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: of the two do you think has the best shot
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: at putting themselves back at a championship caliber team within
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: the next two or three years. Well, I think it's
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: easier for the Red Sox.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you, because they can just throw
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: money at the problem. But if you tell me that
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: they're going to do that, I would my answer is
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: the Red Sox. But something tells me they're not just
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: going to magically start throwing the money around again. And
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: if that's the case, then I'll take the Patriots because
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: I think football, the NFL in general, is easier to get.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: I think they whip back in contention quickly.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I think they will know the Red Sox because now
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: who's whoever the new GM is, they're just gonna do
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: it just to get off on the right foot.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 9: Spend the money. I mean, but if you were just
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 9: as stack Lag didn't do that, I mean, I know.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: And they'll they'll they'll reverse that this time.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 11: But we've talked about the Red Sox and like you know,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 11: Cassis and some of the guys that came along this year,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 11: and you know, I mean, that's you know, what we're
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: hoping for with the Patriots, But as we talked about
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: the top of the show, those guys are kind of
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 11: regressing this year, and so it's hard to say, like,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 11: even if you're not including the sports and the dynamics
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 11: of the leagues, the Red Sox probably have the promising pieces.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: And I do think they do have some some promising
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: young pieces. That's the only thing that came out of
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: this season. But it's not gonna matter if you don't
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: spend a boatload of money on investing in a pitching staff,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: because they have no pitching, all right, I have Brian Bayo.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: That's guess what.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: Has turned and has returned?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 14: Has turned?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: All right, Evan, what do we got?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: He's bad?
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: Taekwon.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: Jacy Jackson was out at Patriots practice on Thursday. Got
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: a nice hello from mister Kraft, who is out there
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: today and the media applau you know, nice.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: Probably based on my Twitter feed yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: Nice little greeting between the two of them. And then
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: and also let's go get a win from mister Kraft
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: on his way by.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 9: The media immediate. Yes, that's his message to the.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: Truth, because you know, we we contribute to winning here
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: in this facility.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: But I'm trying we do. I mean, Mike and I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: offer our keys to the.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: Game, right, I mean, they don't listen to ours. But
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 4: jac Jackson is out there wearing number twenty nine, h
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: not twenty seven, but he had a twenty seven decal
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: on his helmet, so it looks like they just gave
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: him his helmet back like they'd never left. And so
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 4: that was funny. But yeah, twenty nine right now for
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: JC obviously Miles Bryanton twenty seven, So you can't get
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: twenty seven back. Other than that, attendance was exactly the
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: same for the Patriots on Thursday. Still no Taekwon, still
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: no Jack Jones unfortunately, and uh obviously no Judon and
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: no Christian con Zalce. But yeah, exact same attendance.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: Other that was holding out hope that you might see
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: thoughnton today.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: But yeah, with the weather report getting better, does that
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: affect it's been it's been.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: It's been way too hot. It's been way too hot.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: Hot for the media.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Sees it's beautiful.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: It's hot, it's hot.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 5: You know, it's.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: That was beautiful, unseasonably.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Warm, and you should relish that. You should love that.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: No, as media, we we like it to be what
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: what it's supposed to be that time of year, because
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: that's what you prepare for, right, Like if you you know,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: in the in training camp, you know, you know, you're
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: getting yourself into some some hotness, right You're getting yourself
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: into into some sticky August weather in New England in October,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: you're expecting it to be a little bit colder, and
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: so you dress if.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: It's seventy five in October, I'm like, yes, oh yes,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: let's go. I was actually thinking to my as I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: was walking to my car yesterday, It's like, why can't
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: it be like this every single This is like the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: most perfect California. It's called it's called called San Diego.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: It's called living in California.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 11: It is, except for like those three days it rains
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 11: and then you're like, oh, it was beautiful yesterday.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go. Anything else to report? Browsing
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: or you.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Know, no grousing, no grousing. I would say that today
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: we saw a little bit extra time as we did yesterday.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: And Raley Reef I was he's participating. I don't know
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: how much more I can really expunge than that, but
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: he's participating. And I wouldn't be surprised if you know,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: if he's ready that they give him a look. And I,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: you know, I've been thinking about this too, like what
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't be that surprising to any of us. I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: don't think if they just went back to the offensive
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: line that on paper they were supposed to come into
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: the season with right which would be Reef at right
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: tackle and McDermott. I think that they when they signed Reef,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: they thought he was going to start at right tackle. Okay, yeah,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: and I wonder if they just say, you know what,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: let's stop with all the musical chairs, and this is
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: what we coming into the spring, when everybody was, you know,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 4: healthy for the most part, this is what we thought
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: we were going to have. And and let's let's try
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: to re hit the reset button here.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's what I got, shells, I assume.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no pads, pads yesterday, no pads today, and I'm
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: sure no past tomorrow. Big third down day today, big
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: day today. Third down situational.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 11: Is like walking with I can't walk right, Okay, all right,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 11: well that's great.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Uh so we're all up to date. We'll get the
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: participation report later, but I assume we kind of know
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: what it'll be. So now it's that time of the show.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do our picks. Paul, let us know how
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: last week went.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, it was good week for everyone and it was
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: another flat week. We all seemed to do the same.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: Fred Evan, Alex, Paul All eleven and five, and Mike
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: nothing that still last night, correct with the spread fred Evan,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 5: Alex ten and six, Paul nine and seven, and Mike
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: eight and eight.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 9: A right, that's fun with I didn't lose money.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: So the standings are Fred maintains his pretty good lead
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: forty five and nineteen, followed by Mike forty one and
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: twenty three, Paul and Evan forty and twenty, and alex
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 5: Is thirty nine and twenty five with the spread. Fred
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: thirty seven, twenty six and one, followed by Paul, Evan,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: Alex and Mike thirty three, thirty and one. We're all
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 5: of us, we're all twied.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: How's my ass taste?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, easy, shack, I don't know.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 9: You've been eating a lot of pepperoni lately.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Fred not so good?
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So Fred has a four game lead in the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: overall and a four game lead with the spread. We're
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: coming for you, all right, sizable Cochy, you.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: Got a feeling this week it's gonna be a little tougher.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: We're now five games in, so let's see what we
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: can do here. Tonight on Prime Video eight fifteen, the
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: zero to four Bears are at the two and two Commanders.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: The commanders by six six. Do you have al picks
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 5: that you can do?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 9: I don't actually so she has not sent them to me,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 9: so let me check.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: You should probably check.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 9: We'll check in with her. Yeah, I think Matt.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: I'm seeing Matt Ebert Fliss maybe a coaching for his
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: job tonight. They've lost, however, many straight. So I'm gonna
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 11: go to Washington at home, and uh yeah, I'm gonna.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 9: Lay the points.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: I am going to go Commanders as well, and I
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: like them to win big in this game. I think
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: they're a much better team.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: I thought about taking the points, but I wonder that
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: was a bad collapse Sunday. I think that one leaves
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: a mark. I'm gonna take Washington both ways.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is where my feel for the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: league comes in. You want to take the Commanders, but
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: you want to take those points. Okay, take the points. Okay.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: Now we move to Sunday, nine to thirty in the
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: morning Eastern Time. The two or two Jaguars are at
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: the Well. Yeah, the Bills are the home team. Yeah,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: but I know it's in London. The Bills are three
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: and one and hosting the Jaguars in London.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 5: Mike, good news for the listeners. They get Red Zone
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: Paull pregame and postgame this week special treat Buffalo by
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: five and a half.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 9: Five and a half.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Buffalo's rolling right now. I'm going to
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 11: take Buffalo across the pond and I will lay the points.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: Hello Claire, Hello the game. I'm gonna take the Bills,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: but I am going to take the Jaguars to cover.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: The Jacks have been out there for the whole time, right,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: they were there last week, and I think the Bills
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: they're traveling the Jaguars, aren't. I like the Jaguars to
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: keep this game close.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: On the other hand, as fred would say, Evan is right,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: thank you. I also think Buffalo huge, huge win. You
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 5: know what do you like to say? The smelling themselves?
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 5: So how you put it, Freddy? Yeah, yeah, big win
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: over Miami, go to London. I'm gonna pick them to
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: win the game, but I think it'll be close.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I agree. I'll take the Jaguars to cover this game,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: but not quite get there. So Lawrence had a better
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: week last week, so hopefully he can get it. Going
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: one o'clock, the two and two Texans are at the
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: two and two Falcons.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: The Falcons by two.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Where they screwed me last week, This is a tough one.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: Screwed you Falcons.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 9: The Falcons, I don't know I think I'm gonna go
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 9: with CJ. Stroud Stroud on the road here for a win.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 11: I don't feel great about it, but I think these
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 11: two teams are pretty pretty even. I'd probably get the
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 11: talent edge to Atlanta, but I think Houston may be
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 11: playing a little bit Better'm gonna take them.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: This is a tough one, it is. I'm gonna take
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 4: the Texans too, though. I like how they're playing. I
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: like how Damiko Ryans has that team playing. And I
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: still just don't I can't with Desmond Ritter. I think
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think I can pick for the time being.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really I've been impressed with Houston. I think
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: they've been very competitive in all four of their games,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: and they seem like they're getting better. But I think
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, they're on everybody's radar. Oh
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: look at Houston, Look at CJ. Stroud. I think you
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: throw three picks this week, you know. And just I'm
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: going to take Atlanta just a just a hunch.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: I am going to go with Atlanta as well. Again,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: it I agree with it.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: If you don't start taking different teams than mean, I
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: can't make up the gap.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: I agree with Evan. This is a tough one because
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: who are each of these teams? But I think Falcons
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: are at home Midland. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: Falcons one o'clock. The zero to four Panthers are at
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: the three and one Lions dutois by ten goodsikes. He's
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: the last time the Lions are points a favorite.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: It's probably probably been a minute.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 9: As the kids say, I'm going to take Detroit to
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 9: I feel like when I say that.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 5: We do say that. No, But you're like when I say,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: as the kids say, I.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 9: Mean, we've been hearing a lot of drizz lately.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 11: I'm going to take Detroit, but I'm going to take
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 11: plus tennis just a lot of points, and I don't know.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 11: I think Detroit get a little cocky and and it'll
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 11: be close.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm feeling the same thing. I trust the Lions
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: more now than I have all year. But I that's
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of points for ten points.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 5: Trust Yeah this, I'm going to take Detroit and I'm
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 5: going to lay the points. I think Carolina is. I
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: think Bryce Young has showing some flashes of ability, but
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: I think there's still a ways away, and I think
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: that they will not have the offense to keep up
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: in a game like this against Detroit.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am going to trust the lions of this
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: game to win and.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: Cover Fred stop.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: Also, I also think Ben Johnson's a jerk off that.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. I don't know if you heard
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 5: him at that school play. I mean, it was was
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: brutal and he told an old lady to go home.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: And slapped her, you know, in the face, that into
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: the woods.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 9: And this dad's got to stand up and say, watch
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 9: my kid, and he's playing the chicken and forget it.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the two and two Titans are at
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: the two and two Cults.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: Another interesting game, the Titans by one and a half.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 9: Somebody owned somebody in this one.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Paul, I do not know.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: I like asking you that Tennessee has generally run that
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: division in recent years.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 14: Now.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: They didn't win it last year, but the Rabel Titans
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 5: have been pretty.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 9: Pretty good in that.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 11: I'm really struggling this year to get a beat on
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 11: the Verbel Titans. Usually I kind of give them the
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 11: benefit of the doubt, and I'm gonna do it this week.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna take the underdog Titans on the road.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, Anthony Richardson's looked really good
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: from what I expected him to look like me too,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: but I feel like the Titans just they're more buttoned
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: up organization. I'm going to take the Titans. I don't
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: love it though. I think it's a tough one coin
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: flip game.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take the Titans too. And it's
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: a it's a Mike Dusau pick. It's a Mike Rabel
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: pick for me.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Colt Serve impressed me. There's something going on there
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: that I did not expect, and I'm going to say
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: that it continues and they beat the Titans.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: Finally, So there you go, Paul, finally give me a chance.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: There's your opening. Uh, Sunday at one, the one in
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: three Giants are at the three and one Dolphins.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: Miami by eleven eleven eleven.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 9: Wow, there's go to eleven.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 11: Yeah, some good shots of Brian Dable chucking the chucking
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 11: the iPad there, Daniel Jones.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: It wasn't Daniel Jones.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: But did you think it was discussed?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 21: I was.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was gonna Don't you think there
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: was a level of disgust there with that little toss.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: We did you not think that?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: I did, and I don't think that's a good sign.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 11: So I'm gonna take Miami, and I'm somehow going to
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 11: lay eleven of those points, even though I think that's
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 11: a little crazy, but maybe not that crazy.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: I I'm going to take Miami to win this game,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: but I'm going to take the Giants to cover. I
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: think the Giants at some point half to show a
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: little fight, like they have to show a little punch
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: back and a little bit of fight. And I think
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins got got solved a little bit last week
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: by the Bills. So I'm gonna take Miami. But that's
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of points.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Miami definitely is my pick. I'll take the Giants
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: to cover two just because I don't think the Giants
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: are that bad, even though they've played that badly for
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: the first four games. I'll take the eleven.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Dolphins to cover, even
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: though it pains me to do so. I do think
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: the Giants are with Miami, they're in trouble. Well, I
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: hate the Dolphins. They're in first place.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: I don't can't have that they're not.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: But and they're spelling themselves. Okay, it's pretty good. One o'clock,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: the three and one Ravens are at the two and
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: two Steelers. The Ravens by four four road dogs roads,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: so they're by seven road favorite road favorites. They're actually
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: favored by seven teams.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 11: Don't get excuse me, friend, I'm gonna take the Ravens
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 11: on the road, and I will lay the points.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Kenny Pickett's going to try to
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: play in this game.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 5: Correct what it sounds like.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still like Baltimore, though, I like them to
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: win this game comfortably, So I'm taking the Ravens both ways.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 5: I am going to take Baltimore to win. I will
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: take the points because these games are almost always decided
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 5: by a field.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: Gal. It's true. That's a good point the Black and
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Blue Division, but I'm gonna go with the Ravens to cover.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are having their issues too.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: So oh yeah, their offense is worse than the Patriots.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: So now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: and we moved to four oh five. There are actually
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: two four oh five games this week. That's big news.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: Only five one o'clock games this week, there.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: Are one in the one in three Bengals are at
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: the one in three Cardinals.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: The Bengals by two and a half.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 11: Two and a half, and I thought Joe Burrow is
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 11: off the injury report, but we know Arizona has been frisky, spunky,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 11: of frisky, that's probably the word I was looking for, frisky.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 11: This is a tough call for me, man. I think
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna go all right, I'm gonna just err on
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 11: the side of Joe Burrow and take the They take
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 11: the Saints, the Saints, the Bengals.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the Cardinals. Yeah, at home, long trip for
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: the Bengals. They don't That team just looks broken and
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: I like the Cardinals. I think that they're frisky in
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: these types of games.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: I agree with everything Evan said, but I'm gonna like
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: go down with one more loss with the Bengals. I
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: wonder if if Joe Burrow is sort of trying to
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: do the a noble thing, like he can't be healthy,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: but he just got the contract. He feels like he
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 5: has to play, and now he's not only gonna play,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: he's gonna tell everybody I'm not playing like crap because
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: of my calf. This is on me, you know what
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 5: I mean. But I don't think he's right. He's not
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: moving at all. But I'm gonna I'll take one more
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: loss backing the Bengals before I rethink my strategy.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: With you the I think the friskiness of the Cardinals
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: frisky have come to an end. However, unofficially I think
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna win. But officially I'm going with
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals because I can't pick the Bengals four oh five.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: The four and oh Eagles are at the two and
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: two Rams. This could be a good game.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 5: Eagles by four and a half.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 9: Wow, pooka nakula, huh poopa? What did he get drafted?
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: Was he undrafted Fifi out of Utah?
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 11: No?
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: Yuh okay? Yeah? True. But I will also say, did
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: you see that stat on him from Nicoula. He already
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 5: has the most catches in yards in the first five
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: games of a career. He's only played four.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 9: It's insane. I'd like to know what the heck's going on.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 5: So if he gets blanked, if he gets blanked on Sunday,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 5: he still has the record for the most receptions and
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 5: yards over the first five games.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: Did anyone see this one coming with this guy?
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 14: No.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: I mean he was a really good route runner and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: he did had a great week down at the Senior Bowl.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: But I give a lot of credit to Sean McVay.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: I think they just know how to get these guys open.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: Like I think he's playing basically the same role as
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and so he's producing like Cooper Cup.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: Well, now they're saying that when Cup comes back, he
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: can run some of those overs that yah, you know
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: Stafford loves, and they'll have this guy he could open
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: even yea up.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: No, I think Cup is back at practice. I don't
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: know if he's gonna play, but he's back at practice.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 11: Well, I'm gonna take Philly though on the road, I
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: know they haven't played great and they haven't really blown
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 11: anybody out yet, but I'm gonna take Philly.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna lay the points. I got a lot of
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 9: road dogs or road guys this week.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: I'm also going to take Philly, but I think it's
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: a field goal game. I like the Rams to cover.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the upset. I'm gonna take the Rams,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: and I'm kind of going off of Cooper Cup. I
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 5: think if he comes back. I think the offense has
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: been pretty good, but now you get Cup with Jefferson
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: and this kid, and I think they could be pretty dangerous.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: And I think the Eagles have been kind of suspect
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: on defense. So I'm gonna take an upset here, Paul.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough to keep that defensive line off
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: of Stafford, though, I have to.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Paul. The Rams give the Eagles their
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: first loss of the season. It's got to come some point.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 5: Oh so you were mad at me because I stole
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: your upset?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: I guess yes.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: He was giving me the like the lagund Did you
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 5: see that?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was mad about it.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like he waved me off. Yeah, God bless you
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: min win.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: The one and three Jets are at the one in
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: three Broncos a real bond burner, Fred.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 5: Where's this game being played?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 9: Oh, Denver?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: What do you think? Of course? It's ridiculou Where.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: Do you think Denver by one and a half?
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 9: One and a half.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 9: So is Zach Wilson? Is he gonna finally make the
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 9: jump this week in Denver? I don't think so. I
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 9: got I got, I got Russell Wilson in the in
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 9: the Broncos.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: Thats a very like SportsCenter like te like t Up,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: there is he gonna do it. I'm also going to
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 4: take the Broncos at home. They came back last week, right,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: you know, they went that game, and I think that
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: maybe they have a little bit of juice coming off
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: of that one, and I just I can't pick Zach Wilson.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: Call me a sucker. I'm gonna fall for the second
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: half of that game, and I'm gonna say they found
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: a little something. I think that maybe he won a
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 5: few supporters in the locker room by saying this one's
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: on me, when for a change, it really wasn't. I
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 5: think the defense will play better and being be inspired,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: and if that team can't come to play after what
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton said about Nathaniel Hackett, then forget about it.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 5: Point I like the Jets in Denver.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a good one, almost enough to make me
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: shift my pick. But I'm going to stick with my
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: original gut instinct and it's Broncos winning this game. Four five.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: The three and one Chiefs are at the one in
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: three vikings.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 5: Case by four and a half, four and a half the.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 9: Chefs, I know they're not quite firing on all cylinders.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 9: To have Taylor Swift report on that she going to
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 9: the game Minnesota.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 11: She's not going to Minnesota, minnesot I don't think it matters.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna take case, but I'm gonna take those No, not,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna play the points.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 5: He's not a man of conviction for nothing.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say quickly that the NFL needs to
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 4: back off of the Taylor Swift stuff like it worked
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: for the first couple of times, Like now, like can
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: we just let let it be? Thank you Chiefs. Though
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: they win, they win comfortably, but I don't need to
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: see her every five minutes in the box. All Right,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: we get it. She's dating Travis Kelcey.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: All right, I don't know what kind of feed you're
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 5: getting I have. I have Kansas City in this game
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: as well with the Boys.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Kansas City both ways. All right? Eight twenty
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: on n be sure that's a good one. The three
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: and one Cowboys are at the four and oh forty
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: nine Ersnoiners.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: By three and a half and a half.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: Wow, it's great.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 9: See this is like you know, we got a one
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 9: o'clock game. I'll get home. This is a good game.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: I hope this doesn't turn out to be, you know,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: like the San Francisco just rolls them right, because I
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: am this is like finally a matchup. It's not a
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 5: division game. It's two teams that are playing well.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 9: Some history there, but I'm gonna go with San Francisco.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 9: I just think they are too talented and they will win.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: I am also going to go with San Francisco, and
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: I like them to cover the spread as well. I
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: just I don't think, you know not. I thought the
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 4: Cowboys let the Patriots implode on Sunday, and they deserve
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: credit for that, I suppose, But I don't think that
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: I was overly impressed with anything that the Cowboys did
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: in that game. It was more the Patriots.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I just I've been very impressed with San
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 5: Francisco overall. I think teams have tried some different stuff.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: I thought the Giants blitz the crap out of brock
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 5: Party and got them off rhythm early in the game.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: Didn't matter. He wound up, you know, righting the ship
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: and throwing for three hundred yards. I'm gonna take the Niners.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: I just think right now they're the best team in football.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: Rock party, crazy, folks.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: That was an early game that the Cowboys, a big
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: win for the Cowboys. That gets everybody going crazy about
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys and this is the year, and then they fade.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: I think this is the game.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: I think this is it. I think the Cowboys win
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: this game and then everybody goes crazy.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 5: I hope you're right.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a tough one, I you know.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: I just hope it's a good game, like like the
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: playoff game last year.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 9: That was a good that was a good stay up
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 9: on Sunday night.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: I want to watch.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to get into a game. I haven't
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: been into a game Roly all year. I want to
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 5: be into the game with you Monday night.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: On ABC, ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN Deporte, all your ESPN
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: anywhere else that you can get the mouse. Uh the
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: three and two, the two and two Packers are at
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: the one and three Raiders, Green Bay by one. You
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: remember the Raiders are going to be looking ahead it.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know why to the Patriots, but I actually
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: got the biggest takeaway that I had from Fred's upset
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 5: pick of Dallas is every year Dallas wins one of
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 5: those games that and he's not even considering last week.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: It's that game which normally, under normal circumstances, Fred, you
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 5: would say San Francisco, Big Dallas won the super Bowl.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Last weeks have changed, I said, the Patriots where they're
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: get right game.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 11: Ah, this is a this is a tough game here
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 11: for me. I guess probably Aidan O'Connell. We think Jimmy
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 11: g is still in concussion protocol.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 9: So I think I'm gonna go with Green Bay on
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 9: the road and was two and a half. He said one,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 9: one and a half.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 8: One.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 11: I'll take one, just one straight one, no hook, Okay,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 11: I'll take with the Packers minus one.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the Packers to to win and cover as well.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: Something stinky in Vegas. That team is just not right. Yep,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: they're not.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: Besides the ex Caliber hotel.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: So there's three. The ex Caliber is a pretty There's
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: three teams that have not scored over twenty points in
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: a game this season, the Patriots and the Saints. So
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: that tells you about that game. And the Raiders are
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: the third team, and they're the only team that has
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: an offensive minded head coach. Mind you so like that
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: the fact that that team can't score points when your
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: coach is supposed to be this offensive guru is tough.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: That's tough.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 5: I'm taking the pack A lot of factoids there, I'm
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: still gonna take the Raiders. I think the Packers stink.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: Wow, think they stink?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 19: I do.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think they've looked very good. I think there
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: are the Raiders are good. No, but I'm just going
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: with the home team. I think two bad teams. I
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: generally go with the home team, and I think these
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: are two bad teams. I think the Packers are a
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: shoulder injury away from whatever one win. They were very
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: lucky to win that Saints game. They were down seventeen
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: nothing when Derek Carr got hurt. I don't think they
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: lose that game if he didn't get hurt.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think right now the Packers are a
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: little bit more put together than the Raiders. There is
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: something going on with it.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: Agree with that. The Raiders look broken.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Packers.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: But I also think Jimmy g like, yeah, they say
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: that he had a chance to play last week.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: A lot of people in that locker room, like Aidan
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 4: O'Connell maybe a little bit better.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: All right, we go back Josh not being one of
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: them based on his a visceration of the poor kid.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the two and two Saints at the one
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: to three Patriots. And I hear Evan is going to
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: be ringing the bell. Oh yeah, Oh.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 9: That's fine, that's news to me.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: No you're not.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: It's like who I'll ring the bell? Okay, it's patriot
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 4: dot Com.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 8: Know that.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 5: Nerd Patriots by one.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 9: And I did see some of the line Shiffanduel Dingle
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 9: as the Saints by one?
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 5: What could it mean? But we go by DraftKings.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 11: All right, I gotta I'm gonna go with the Patriots here.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 11: I know it was bad last week, you know, I
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 11: just I gotta think that they've got something in the tank.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 11: But this is a big, big g for Mac Jones
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 11: to get right, for the defense to come out and
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 11: play well and not you know, just bend over against
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 11: a marginal offense. They have some weapons, you can't let
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 11: them get free. And certainly Patriots have injury issues that
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 11: they have to overcome. But I just I have to
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 11: believe that the Patriots can pull this game. Out turn
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 11: their season around with a nice win. But I don't
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 11: think they'll score a.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 9: Lot of points. I got Patriots nineteen seventeen.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: I'm in a similar boat. I think the Patriots find
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: a way to win this game. I'm saying eighteen to fifteen.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 5: Well, all Chris Berman, all.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 9: Field goals, Oh, Chad Ryland get loose?
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 5: Six field goals for Chad Ryley scoring drives? Are you high?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: What did they force? Five turnovers?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: Wall?
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  Speaker 17: They are all?
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  Speaker 4: You know, fifty plus field goals Paul chad Ryland with
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  Speaker 4: a sixty eight yard field goals say in the all
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  Speaker 4: time record today eighteen fifteen Chad Ryland game winner as
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: time expires gives the Patriots a w.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 5: I am on board with the mentality and the outcome
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: for both Mike and Evan. I think the Patriots find
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: a way to squeak this one out. Both teams are
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 5: really dealing with a ton of injuries. It might come
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: down to who has enough healthy bodies. But turnovers. I
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 5: think a late turnover, maybe by by New Orleans, is
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  Speaker 5: the difference in this game. I'm going to say thirteen
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 5: to ten New England Nengland.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 9: Nobody had them breaking twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a pro better, this is a
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: game that you fade in shelf.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 9: So I was thinking that, did you talk that through?
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  Speaker 19: Like?
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  Speaker 1: What is that? He goes, you fade the game, you
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: don't touch it, and you put it on the shelf.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 9: Plaction, you don't even pay.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: It, no mind you shelf? It is that? Okay?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard that alone, alex Evan, you wouldn't
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 5: have heard of it.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: No, No, because I just made it up before my time.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I just made it up.
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  Speaker 9: But it sounds right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do her pace.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm just gonna write it down.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: I am picking the Patriots, and I'm a sucker. I
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna score twenty four points, okay, and they're
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: gonna win twenty four to seventeen.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: So causes seven turnovers?
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: Then no, I think that. I think again I'm a sucker,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: but I think Mac plays better. This game plays within
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: the system. Riley Reeves stabilizes the right tackle position. H
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: you know, for at least the game. Things look a
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: little bit more settled, and they manage twenty four points.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think what scares me?
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more worried about the defense going
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: into this game, actually believe it or not?
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 5: Me too.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think what scares me most about this game
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 11: is that they that they don't necessarily play all that bad,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 11: but they just kind of have some bad luck. And
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 11: you know, like it's just in one of those games
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 11: where we really really really need a W and you
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 11: just can't have one of those games where just kind
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 11: of something fluky and stupid happens and that's what decides
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 11: the game.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 9: Like, they have to be able to put the game away.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, you want to. You want a real win,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: not a fluke they won because of something they did.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 9: I mean, if it's on their way, I'll take what
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 9: I can get.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, I hear what I just I feel like
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: at some point, at some point, one of these two
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 4: teams has to score some points, right, Like, you're not
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 4: gonna go a whole season of not never breaking twenty points.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 4: He just doesn't happen in the NFL. So whichever one
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: of these teams can find a way to have that
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: game is gonna win this game.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 5: So Alex likes the Patriots as well. She picks a
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 5: score of twenty one to seventeen.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: Good Okay, selection sounds reasonable. Okay, Well that's it for
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Coming up next is Catch
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: twenty two with Evan and Alex, so they're really gonna
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: dive deep into Mike Asiki I hear? Is that?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 9: And Evan's bell ringing too, He's at the top of
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 9: my list.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know about this bell ringing though.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So get you know, dressed accordingly. Not the bell
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: up on the just because I know how media doesn't
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: like to be throwing a curve ball when it comes
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: to the weather. So bring a backpack and be ready
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: for any type of weather up there, because it's different,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: you know how, Like in Mount Washington they have a
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: different temperature. Well we have the same thing at the lighthouse.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: It's a different weather forecast for the lighthouse.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, thanks right, thank you for that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, stay tuned for twenty two pregame Social What
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  Speaker 1: Time ten thirty forty five game postgame show. We'll see
• 1:59:26
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