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Breakfast Bonus: Patrick Gower · Toni, Jase & Sam - Breakfast Catchup

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  Speaker 1: The Coast Breakfast Bonus Podcast with Tony Jason Sam.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to our Breakfast Bonus podcast. Today we
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  Speaker 2: sat down with Petty Gower. You know Petty Gower. He's
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  Speaker 2: been on TV three for years. He was the political editor,
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  Speaker 2: he's hosted the debates. Then he was doing those drug
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  Speaker 2: things one that Petty Goer on weed, Petty Girl on booze.
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  Speaker 2: He's doing a wonderful job of documentation.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: So we had a gatleman about Petty Gower on ice.
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  Speaker 2: But we know that with the TV three folding. You
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  Speaker 2: know what else is on your radar, Petty?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I've been just been down to Antactica, so I
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  Speaker 4: was almost off the radar because it was that far
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  Speaker 4: away and I thought, actually, you know, it was negative
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  Speaker 4: thirty five degrees down there, so the radar, if there
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  Speaker 4: was one, would have frozen.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely. My internal radar was freezing five.
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  Speaker 2: The reason you're an Antarctica. See Petty Goaler on ice.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, when I first saw the headliner
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  Speaker 2: of he's doing another drugs one, but no, not the
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  Speaker 2: drugs actual ice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, A lot of people.
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  Speaker 4: Ice is another word for my then fittermin and someone
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  Speaker 4: said to me before, is it polar bees on meath
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  Speaker 4: or something like that, and no, it's not. And that
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  Speaker 4: actually did bring up because when I got down to Antarctica,
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of like quite keen to see a
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  Speaker 4: pole of beer, and then of course I realized they're
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  Speaker 4: in the North Pole and Antarctica is in the South Pole,
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  Speaker 4: so there was no center either.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's about ice.
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  Speaker 4: It's about Antarctica and the fact that it's actually a
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  Speaker 4: little bit scary fellas Antarctica is melting. Yeah, yes, it is, yeah, yep, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the sea ice is melting year on year. So that's
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  Speaker 4: the bit that freezes in the winter and then gets
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  Speaker 4: and then the frosts in the summer, and each summer
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  Speaker 4: that they come back, the sea ice is getting smaller
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  Speaker 4: and smaller, and that's a barrier around the big bits
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  Speaker 4: of ice in the middle. And the worry is, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: if we keep losing you know what is essentially the
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  Speaker 4: predictive outer layer, we're going to lose the big bits
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  Speaker 4: in the middle, which would mean four meters of sea
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  Speaker 4: level rice. So actually I left there kind of really
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  Speaker 4: frightened by what the scientists have been telling me because
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  Speaker 4: it's like wool.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, I guess what we're seeing is the
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  Speaker 5: global change. At this point, it's hard to kind of
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  Speaker 5: completely trust because it's happening slower. But if it goes,
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  Speaker 5: she goes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if it goes, she goes.
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's their worry, is that something is happening
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  Speaker 4: down in Antarctica. It's melting. The sea ice around it
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  Speaker 4: is melting. Something's going on. They don't know a lot
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  Speaker 4: about it, and they're freaking out about what it means
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  Speaker 4: for the world. See what I even knew, guys, was
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  Speaker 4: you know, every one of the world's oceans actually comes
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  Speaker 4: off Antarctica, so it kind of feeds cold water into
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  Speaker 4: the world. It's like our thermostat. And basically it's a big,
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  Speaker 4: giant beast. It's massive. I've been there. There's so much ice.
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  Speaker 4: You kind of and they say it's disappearing. You're like, really,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just to the naked eye, But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: And I really had to watch saying things like that
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  Speaker 4: because I did want to say things like that out loud.
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  Speaker 4: You shouldn't really say that to a scientists who's research,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, it's it's it's like a beast.
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  Speaker 4: That we've awoken, and now we don't know what's going
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  Speaker 4: to what it's going to do to us, but we
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  Speaker 4: see things like Cyclone Gabriel that it's going to do something,
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  Speaker 4: that it's going to do something bad.
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  Speaker 5: So we're spending time with the bulk of scientists down there.
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  Speaker 5: What kind of things were they attributing to the cause.
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  Speaker 5: Did they have any ideas that they're obviously didn't, core
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  Speaker 5: samples and all the rest of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they you know, they're doing all sorts of
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  Speaker 4: insane stuff, Like they had a gigantic drill that was
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  Speaker 4: drilling down through the ice into the core of the
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  Speaker 4: earth and taking out some of the earth to see
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  Speaker 4: what happened the millions of years ago that Antarctica was
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  Speaker 4: last sort of hitting this way. So they can sort
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  Speaker 4: of try and figure it out. But obviously it's climate change.
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  Speaker 4: The world's warmed up and we've shaken Antarctica, and and
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  Speaker 4: you know what the scientists are saying is, hey, it
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  Speaker 4: might be too late. We can't act to stop this.
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  Speaker 4: Now we have to deal with whatever the Antarctica is
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  Speaker 4: going to throw at us.
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  Speaker 3: We're already on the runway track there.
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  Speaker 5: We just keep burning those carbon fields.
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  Speaker 3: We are doomed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's called They called it the climate crisis.
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  Speaker 2: And you mentioned before cycling. Gabrielle having you know, grown
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  Speaker 2: up and hawkspower, watched the with utter disbelief what happened.
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  Speaker 2: But I was still blown away with what I saw
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  Speaker 2: in the first episode. Were you talking to people who
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  Speaker 2: were affected by that? And one of the women said
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  Speaker 2: that her little boy held her hand, you remember that,
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  Speaker 2: and said can you please hold my hand when we die?
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  Speaker 5: Mum?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So there's you know, some horrible stories coming out of
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  Speaker 4: and I actually tonight I get out with Extinction Rebellion,
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  Speaker 4: which are one of the protest groups that everybody's heard about,
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  Speaker 4: you know. They are the ones that I live down
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  Speaker 4: in Wellington and they superglued themselves to the motorways load
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  Speaker 4: that sort of thing. So I go with them to
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  Speaker 4: try and understand where they're coming from. We actually go
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  Speaker 4: out in Auckland here to one of the fuel stops
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  Speaker 4: that distributes all the fuel around to the petrol stations
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  Speaker 4: and block a truck there. And we talked to a
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  Speaker 4: Kiwi guy as well in London who climbed up on
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  Speaker 4: a bridge and stopped the motorways around London for forty
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  Speaker 4: one hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's done two or three years in jail,
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  Speaker 3: this guy.
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  Speaker 4: But we I try and talk to them openly to
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  Speaker 4: try and get some understanding of what drives them to
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  Speaker 4: do this kind of thing, you know, these You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm someone who I'm worried about the climate, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm concerned about the climate, but I'm not like into
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  Speaker 4: it like this. But in saying that, by the time
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  Speaker 4: I've been down to intactic, I start to understand them
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  Speaker 4: a bit more. I mean, I still don't like what
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  Speaker 4: they do, but I kind of get it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I can see a bit more wide they are so frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: What was a light down there? Cold? Negative thirty five?
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  Speaker 5: Is that just bearable?
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  Speaker 3: Yes? It is.
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  Speaker 4: So if I took off ski goggles while I was outside,
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  Speaker 4: I would just get instantly cold, because you know, you've
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  Speaker 4: got a battle clavi ski goggles, a massive jacket that
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  Speaker 4: you can have to walk in. Like literally it would
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  Speaker 4: take me forty five minutes to get dressed.
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  Speaker 3: And then you're like, have I got the right jacket
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  Speaker 3: on underneath this?
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, hang on, we are my gloves and you know,
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  Speaker 4: twenty four hour a day sunlight. Yeah, like the sun
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  Speaker 4: did not go down once. So you just like eleven
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  Speaker 4: o'clock at night, about to go to bed, having a
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  Speaker 4: milo look out the window. Absolutely sunshine, yeah, sunshining. Went camping,
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  Speaker 4: had to go wheez in a in a bottle, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because you can't. It's a zero waste environment. You can't
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  Speaker 4: just like duck behind a boulder or a bit of ice.
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  Speaker 3: And you know you got to like is that right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: You've got to. You've got to go in a bottle
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  Speaker 3: and take it. What do the penguins do? Take it
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  Speaker 3: back with your penguins. I'll tell you this about penguins.
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  Speaker 5: They also carry bottles.
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  Speaker 4: Carry bottle. I went to a pingan colony. Everyone thinks
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  Speaker 4: penguins are cute, right you know. I mean I thought
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  Speaker 4: they were cute as well until I went to this
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  Speaker 4: penguin colony. Look, it smelt like a boy's boarding school
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  Speaker 4: that they fat. They've got bo they and they're actually
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  Speaker 4: quite a stinky. They reek long story short.
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  Speaker 3: Penguins.
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  Speaker 4: They might be cute in a photo, but up close,
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  Speaker 4: when you got a ping on colony, they actually they
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  Speaker 4: actually stink. So little penguins are sort of a little
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  Speaker 4: bit off my off.
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  Speaker 5: My top on the same with dolphins, always smiling.
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  Speaker 2: But if you keep from me with the.
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  Speaker 3: So how did you get down to it?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know they air force planes get other quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit a the New Zealand Force.
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  Speaker 3: I went down with the Mires massive American base. There.
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  Speaker 4: I was on this gigantic American plane with a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot of Yanks, and you know, they they drop you off,
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  Speaker 4: and of course they go off to their base McMurdo,
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  Speaker 4: which is gigantic, and then there's a few sort of
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  Speaker 4: sheds and a few rickety buildings across the one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's sort of the you know, you're you're in over here, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then next minute I'm sort of bunking
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  Speaker 4: with a guy.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I hadn't slept in a bunk bed since with my
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  Speaker 4: cousin when I was twelve years old. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 4: very weird for a forty seven year old and also
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  Speaker 4: having to get up to the top bunk at my
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  Speaker 4: age and get into a pup tint out on the ice.
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  Speaker 4: I was glad, I've been doing a bit of yoga.
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  Speaker 3: You've done something.
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  Speaker 2: So you come back a bit worried what can we do? Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: we need to be worried now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know what, everybody can do stuff
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  Speaker 4: and we know all the sorts of things we can.
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  Speaker 5: Do, stopping eating beef, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I think it's more we
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  Speaker 4: need to think about adapting, probably like this is going
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  Speaker 4: to come as probably to come quicker than we think
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  Speaker 4: it is going to happen, and we need to think about, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: how are we going to live with it? You know,
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  Speaker 4: we can't stop it. It's more how we're going to
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  Speaker 4: live with it. And it might mean you know, things
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  Speaker 4: that's say a bit crazy, and people will be like, jeez,
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  Speaker 4: petty cent are crazy this morning?
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  Speaker 5: Building an arc?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well not quite building an art But what
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  Speaker 4: about moving inland and things like that, not doing any
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  Speaker 4: more stuff beside the coast or a whole sort of
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  Speaker 4: towns or that are in dangerous areas, actually having to move.
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  Speaker 5: You know what sucks about living in land not by
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  Speaker 5: the sea. You know, that's right, it's lovely living next
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  Speaker 5: to the sea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I grew up next to the sea.
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  Speaker 4: My parents live beside the sea, and people you know
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  Speaker 4: would have seen last night. You know, I currently live
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  Speaker 4: beside the sea and in a floodplain. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: live in the Hot Valley down Wellington. It's a floodplain
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  Speaker 4: beside the sea. It's actually when you listen to these guys,
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  Speaker 4: you know, at the end of every interview, I'd say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know I live in the hot valley, what do
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  Speaker 4: you reckon? And you know all these scientists cool week
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  Speaker 4: and it's and it's a bit of a worry and
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know we laugh about it, but it
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  Speaker 4: will become very real to some people when insurance companies
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  Speaker 4: start saying, actually, we don't want to ensure a house
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  Speaker 4: in this area, or your premiums are going to go.
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  Speaker 3: Through the roof.
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  Speaker 2: Starting to happen in some places.
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  Speaker 3: Starting to happen in some places.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like a pretty good excuse for insurance companies
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  Speaker 5: to wind it up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you to be a complete pessimist. Yeah. Cheap housing,
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, cheap housing. If you want to take
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  Speaker 3: the rest, yeah, that's.
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  Speaker 2: Right, wide enough I do. It is fascinating. It's pettigal
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  Speaker 2: on ice. You can catch it on three and now
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  Speaker 2: Illisure blow your mind.
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