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Breaking Down the Big Week 5 Games · NFL explained.

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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?
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Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks on a Monday, DJ Buck
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Speaker 3: and Baldy.
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Speaker 2: Baldy. First of all, where the heck were you yesterday?
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Speaker 4: I was in the jungle Cincinnati, Uh, watching Detroit just
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Speaker 4: just roll the way they have been rolling. And then
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Speaker 4: just watching, you know, horrible quarterback play from Jake Browning
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Speaker 4: to the point where I mean me and you and
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Speaker 4: Bucky we could sit here and we could draw plays
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Speaker 4: to get you know, tomorrow Chase. The ball didn't happen
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Speaker 4: to really the fourth quarter. It's just amazing. It was
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Speaker 4: just one of those games you better have some material
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Speaker 4: to fill because it was. It was really ugly till
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Speaker 4: the end.
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Speaker 3: That's a rough one, Buck, you have a big one tonight.
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Speaker 3: That's where you're joining us remotely. You've got the chefs,
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Speaker 3: it's the Jags welcoming in the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Speaker 2: So you got a big one tonight, buddy, Yeah, big one.
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Speaker 1: Excited the buzz around the city. You can feel there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of excitement. Cheese fans come in droves, and
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Speaker 1: so the last time the Jacks had like one of
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Speaker 1: these premier games. It didn't go well because Jake Browning
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Speaker 1: and Cincinnati Bengals tore them up two years ago on
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Speaker 1: a Monday night.
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Speaker 2: So this is the chance for them to acquit themselves
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Speaker 2: a little better when the war has opportunity to see him. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watching that game. Man.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna rip through some of these games here and
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Speaker 3: hit it from some different angles. Let's start first of all,
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Speaker 3: Sunday night, or how about this for a little upset
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Speaker 3: special New England Buffalo Patriots going to Buffalo win twenty
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Speaker 3: three to twenty ball.
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Speaker 2: They we'll just see.
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Speaker 4: Well, the very first play of the game, Drake May
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Speaker 4: you know, throws it to Stefan Diggs and you know
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Speaker 4: he gets the first down, and then they just kept
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Speaker 4: feeding them. He looked as good as he's looked in
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Speaker 4: I don't know, two or three years. But they just
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Speaker 4: do a good job of balancing it up. Will Campbell's
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Speaker 4: a really good layer. Had a good game against Joey
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Speaker 4: Bosa and Epanessa out there. They run it with three backs,
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Speaker 4: they run it with Stevenson, they run it with you know, Henderson,
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Speaker 4: they run it with Gibson.
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Speaker 5: They throw it to the they really used their backs.
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Speaker 4: And you know, Drake May made a couple of plays
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Speaker 4: in that game that kind of reminds you of Josh Allen,
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Speaker 4: including you know, as he's going to the ground, you know,
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Speaker 4: and he gets the ball out to Digs, you know,
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Speaker 4: that final drive to get the game winning field goal.
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Speaker 4: Drake May stands tall in the pocket, he's he's he's
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Speaker 4: mobile without looking to to always run and take off,
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Speaker 4: you know, with some of these guys are in his league.
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Speaker 4: He looks like a real general out there. But that
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Speaker 4: that was impressive.
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Speaker 5: That was impressive offensively, how they balance things up and uh,
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Speaker 5: you know, move the ball when they had to. But
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Speaker 5: I thought Digs, I thought Diggs was really strong.
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Speaker 4: And then Hunter Henry keeps finding you know, I don't
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Speaker 4: know how many years Hunter has been in this league,
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Speaker 4: but he finds those spaces in the middle of the
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Speaker 4: field for the jump balls.
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Speaker 5: But he could still go get it, you know, with
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Speaker 5: the best of them.
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Speaker 1: Right now, you know what's interesting about this. I love
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Speaker 1: all the stuff that you had to say about the
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Speaker 1: Tario Drake May. I just I just wish I could
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Speaker 1: just just put that in a little bottle and just
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Speaker 1: keep that when I just wax and.
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Speaker 3: Pull in and see your schools allowed to actually post
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Speaker 3: about that.
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Speaker 2: I'm focused about the league right now.
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about THEE but I will say this,
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Speaker 1: Drake May is another example I think of kind of
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Speaker 1: what we learned from Josh Allen because this college tape
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Speaker 1: wasn't perfect, but it was more the projection of what
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Speaker 1: he could be. But a lot of that projection should
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Speaker 1: have been based on the person. And I think what
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Speaker 1: you're seeing is the person, the leader, the connector comes out.
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Speaker 1: Going back to last week when he and Charlotte paid
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton a shout out when he scored, like he
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Speaker 1: has some swag to him that a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't know, and I think that came to the forefront.
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Speaker 1: But to me, when I talk about the Patriots, this
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Speaker 1: is a Mike Rapel game.
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Speaker 2: This is the classic.
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Speaker 1: We go ugly, the game up, We'll do whatever we
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Speaker 1: need to do to get out of there with the win,
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Speaker 1: and the Bills played into their hands because the self
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Speaker 1: inflicted mistakes.
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Speaker 2: It's ugly ball.
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Speaker 1: When you played the Patriots with Mike Rabel and if
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Speaker 1: you're not on your a game, they'll snatched it in
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, much.
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Speaker 2: Like they did on Sunday Night.
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Speaker 5: That's true, Bucky. But for the first time in literally
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Speaker 5: five years, the Patriots actually have real personnel. They have
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Speaker 5: real running backs, they have real receivers, a tight end,
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Speaker 5: a quarterback that actually can deliver. It's been a long time.
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Speaker 4: It's been a long draft, going back to Belichick's last
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Speaker 4: two years. Before they could put a team around a
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Speaker 4: quarterback and a quarterback and actually drive the field and
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Speaker 4: look like, you know, a real NFL team.
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Speaker 2: That was impressive.
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Speaker 5: Man.
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Speaker 3: I went back through all Drake's stuff, and you know
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Speaker 3: the stuff that was on time. He was on time, back,
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Speaker 3: foot ball gone. Then he went through a little bit
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Speaker 3: of an uneasy phase in this game, and then they
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Speaker 3: kind of got it back rolling again. He's under center
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Speaker 3: a lot, which I love watching a bunch of stuff
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Speaker 3: this week. There's a bunch of teams that seemed like
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Speaker 3: they're getting under center a little bit more, which was
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Speaker 3: good to see. They moved the pocket with him, knowing
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to deal with some of the pass
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Speaker 3: rush stuff. The hunter, Henry, he had two grabs between
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Speaker 3: four guys. So you want to talk about finding space
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Speaker 3: like that, I don't know. He just finds that little
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Speaker 3: void and those are not easy throws. So I thought
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Speaker 3: young quarterbacks sometimes you get the live arm guys. But
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Speaker 3: there were some touch throws, some up and down throws
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Speaker 3: that he made that were big time impressive in that game.
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Speaker 3: The scramble stuff with digs, they were on the same
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Speaker 3: page with all that.
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Speaker 4: When you get to the scramble drill, Like, there's a
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Speaker 4: couple guys in this league that when they see the
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Speaker 4: quarterback in trouble, they.
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Speaker 5: Won the ball more than anybody on the field.
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Speaker 4: It's just like a separate skill Like I saw Jamar
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Speaker 4: Chase yesterday digs. There's a few guys then when that
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Speaker 4: quarterback's in trouble they're getting nobody else getting They're getting
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Speaker 4: the ball.
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Speaker 5: They're gonna find it.
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Speaker 4: And I thought, you know, the big scramble to Digs
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Speaker 4: for thirty like that was a huge play. He got
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Speaker 4: his feet down and Drake, you know, was able to
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Speaker 4: get it out. But I mean, there's just certain guys
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Speaker 4: in this league. They want to get into the vision
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Speaker 4: of the quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the worst thing you can do from a quarterback
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Speaker 3: standpoint is just be static, like I'm moving. You need
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Speaker 3: to be moving, And there's all the scrambled rules. Everybody
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Speaker 3: knows about those, but there's I'm telling you that's not universal.
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Speaker 3: When you watch some of these games, these guys, some
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Speaker 3: of these scrambles, the receivers have no idea what to do.
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Speaker 2: They give no, they don't give a picture at all.
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Speaker 3: To the quarterback that digs digs recognition and then a
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Speaker 3: board and was in mediate like that was he immediately.
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Speaker 5: Did a little you know, and it's like I'm gonna
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Speaker 5: go get to the sideline here.
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Speaker 2: Yep, it was. That was big time.
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Speaker 3: One of my takeaways from the week overall, just going
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Speaker 3: through all this stuff was you can tell the teams
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Speaker 3: that are good on that stuff on the scrambled. The
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Speaker 3: other thing, the biggest takeaway for me for the whole week,
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Speaker 3: as we go through these games, you can tell the
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Speaker 3: teams that have a plan for pressure and those that don't.
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Speaker 2: It's coming.
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Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna get heated up in this league because we've
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Speaker 3: got exotic looks. We've got a defensive line talent advantage
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Speaker 3: over an offensive line talent in this league. So you
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Speaker 3: better have a plan and it better be you know,
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Speaker 3: it better be crisp, and you better be on your
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Speaker 3: your dotting your eyes and crossing your teeth. Some teams
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Speaker 3: they get blitzed. It's like a surprise party and they
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Speaker 3: have no idea how to handle it. But the scrambled
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Speaker 3: drill and having a plan there I thought was pretty interesting.
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Speaker 4: I thought in that game too, you know, the Patriots
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Speaker 4: now have a true eye formation with the kid. I
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Speaker 4: think it's Jack west over number thirty seven. You know,
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Speaker 4: he was a lead blocker in some place, but they
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Speaker 4: run that scissors play where he goes one way and
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Speaker 4: then the back goes the other, and they scored a
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Speaker 4: touchdown on it, and he came back to it like
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Speaker 4: three times in the game, and it got you know,
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Speaker 4: those linebackers are reading the.
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Speaker 5: Fullback and they just start flowing.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it just clears things out to the point
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Speaker 4: where that last touchdown they scored. Honestly, Hunter Henry had
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Speaker 4: nobody to block. Everybody went with the fullback. You know,
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Speaker 4: it's classic Josh McDaniels and two back offense.
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Speaker 5: And you know, and the Rabel's gonna subscribe to that.
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Speaker 1: You know the thing about Stephan Diggs coming over and
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Speaker 1: it's what we saw with him kind of accelerating development
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Speaker 1: of Josh Allen there's something to be said for having
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Speaker 1: that veteran receiver that.
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Speaker 2: Is reliable, dependable, trustworthy.
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Speaker 1: In the passing game where they got nos, I always
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Speaker 1: can find the completion if I go to him. And
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Speaker 1: I thought Stephan Digg's comments after the game where he
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Speaker 1: really was giving Drake May his flowers because the comparisons
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Speaker 1: were coming Josh Allen Drake Man.
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Speaker 2: He was like, hey, like, there's some of that stuff obviously, but.
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Speaker 1: You want to make sure that Drake May is Drake
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Speaker 1: May because he has his own special qualities they want
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Speaker 1: to knowledge. I just feel like just the maturity that
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Speaker 1: he showed there and whatever he shows in the building,
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Speaker 1: there's some kind of synergy and connection that he makes
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Speaker 1: with young quarterbacks that helps them kind of grow. It
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Speaker 1: may only be a two or three year window, but
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Speaker 1: it certainly has proven true first with.
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, and now it looks like with Drake Matt
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Speaker 3: I did no doubt. And this is again think about
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Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels. It's impressive what he's done there. He looks
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Speaker 3: like vintage Josh McDaniels with how he's with how he's
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Speaker 3: dialing up all right, all right, Denver Philly Bluck wantn't
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Speaker 3: you jump first on this one?
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Speaker 1: Okay, So there's a saying that the squeaky wheel gets
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Speaker 1: to grease, but sometimes you need to resist giving the
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Speaker 1: wheel to grease. Because the Philadelphia Eagles in that game,
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Speaker 1: that was an appease AJ Brown and Devonti Smith game.
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Speaker 2: And look for a team that has been a successful
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Speaker 2: they been.
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Speaker 1: I'm watching the game and being like, why are they
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball so much? This is not who they are.
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Speaker 1: And so the thing about it when you appease players.
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Speaker 2: Because players are just like your kids.
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Speaker 1: After the game they lose, they still a bitching belly
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Speaker 1: achebeut not winning, so you can't please them.
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Speaker 2: I just want to see the Eagles play like the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: They need to run the football, they need to pass
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Speaker 1: as a compliment and really stick to the formula that
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Speaker 1: has really helped him be a dominant team. The AJ
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Speaker 1: Brown stuff and Devonte Smith' stuff is more to distraction
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Speaker 1: and all it would do it take him down a
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Speaker 1: wayward path.
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Speaker 2: They would not end up in a Super Bowl appearance.
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Speaker 4: Well to that point, sat one had one carry in
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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter when they couldn't drive together. One carry
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Speaker 4: in the fourth courter. This guy ran me. You know,
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Speaker 4: he broke records last year, one carrying the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 4: So I mean that's to your point, Bucky, like they're
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Speaker 4: they're doing what exactly what you said and then nothing.
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Speaker 4: I mean, DJ, you have spoken to this at times.
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Speaker 4: But nothing is on time in that offense, nothing like
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Speaker 4: there is no there is no time. It's actually alarming
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Speaker 4: when you watch, especially if you're just watching this and
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Speaker 4: all these other games and you're seeing Baker and you
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Speaker 4: know all these guys, you know Drake and throw these
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Speaker 4: things on like there's nothing on time. And as an
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Speaker 4: offensive lineman, nothing. I played with Rynald Cunningham. I loved Randall,
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Speaker 4: but that Randall only threw the ball when the receiver.
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Speaker 5: Was looking at him. There was no anticipation there was,
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Speaker 5: and it wasn't anaka random.
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Speaker 4: He had a great arm and when he threw it
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Speaker 4: he whistled it.
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Speaker 5: But it reminds me a little bit of that. And
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Speaker 5: as an offensive line you're like.
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Speaker 4: How long are we supposed to hold these blocks against
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Speaker 4: Nick Benito, you know, against Zach Allen, and that's you know,
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Speaker 4: they're getting sacks because they're holding the ball for six
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Speaker 4: seven seconds.
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Speaker 5: It's it's ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: I looked at Benito's sacks.
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Speaker 3: The first one, I just wrote coverage sack, like that's
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Speaker 3: just kind of a garbage coverage sack. The second one,
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Speaker 3: I mean they were the communication with both was not
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Speaker 3: good on a little game that they ran, so he
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Speaker 3: got he got kind of crossed up there. And then
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Speaker 3: the last one was kind of a slow loss to
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Speaker 3: my lotta uh where. I mean, he powered him, but
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Speaker 3: it was not a quick win. And as an offensive
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Speaker 3: lineman in the league ball, you know, it just don't
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Speaker 3: lose quick. They didn't lose quick like, they kind of
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Speaker 3: lost slow, but eventually you run out of time. So
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Speaker 3: that was the kind of Benito thing that six sacks
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Speaker 3: overall as a group, I wanted to go quickly buck
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Speaker 3: to the other side. Cortland Sutton had eight for ninety
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Speaker 3: nine in this game. I looked up the numbers. He's
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Speaker 3: on pace for twelve hundred and forty one yards and
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Speaker 3: ten touchdowns. Had a thousand yards last year, And I
11:20
Speaker 3: was talking to text with you guys like he might
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Speaker 3: be one of the most underrated receivers. He's been game
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Speaker 3: with that long time. Yeah, Mitchell was with him a bunch.
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Speaker 3: There's a couple of times when he's in the slot
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Speaker 3: where he just kind of posts up in the zone.
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Speaker 3: But there was a lot of wins down the field. Actually,
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Speaker 3: one of the first target he got to go ball
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Speaker 3: down the side and he dropped where he got on
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Speaker 3: top of Quinnon immediately and didn't haul it in. But
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Speaker 3: he's physical at the top, working back. They killed him
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Speaker 3: with back shoulders even like some deep curl stuff. Like
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Speaker 3: to me, for a bigger guy, he gets back down
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Speaker 3: the stem pretty good. Like he's pretty efficient in his
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Speaker 3: movement and doing that stuff. And I buck I wrote
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Speaker 3: down on my notes, kind of gave me just watching him,
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Speaker 3: and I think we might even have made this compheny
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Speaker 3: he was coming out.
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Speaker 2: Gave me like some Brandon Marshall vibes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would say this, he's become a more
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Speaker 1: physical player in the league than he was when he
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Speaker 1: was coming out, because remember he was a big player,
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Speaker 1: but he kind of was. He had a big body,
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Speaker 1: but he played real finesse in his approach. He's become
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Speaker 1: a more physical player on the perimeter and using his
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Speaker 1: size to post uff and do that same observation that
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Speaker 1: you had. Man, he was giving Quinna Mitchell, who is
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Speaker 1: one of the emerging top corners in the league. He
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Speaker 1: was giving them the business very very early, and it
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Speaker 1: was part of a plan. And this why we talked
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Speaker 1: about coaching. But man, there's just a thing when you
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Speaker 1: have great coaches, guys that are schemers and tacticians and
12:38
Speaker 1: understand that was a Sean Payton Advanced Joseph game like
12:42
Speaker 1: they were on their game against the Eagles. The way
12:45
Speaker 1: Sean Payton controlled the game, the way that he kind
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Speaker 1: of forced the issue when they went for two and
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Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, what is this. He's like, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna control fate. I'm gonna make them react to us,
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Speaker 1: just all of it. And then the way that they
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Speaker 1: just the temple of the game. It was a Broncos
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Speaker 1: game from the start. Even though they were behind, it
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Speaker 1: still felt like the Broncos kind of had the game
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Speaker 1: on their terms. Look a credit to everything. Their first
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Speaker 1: nail is solid, but really shot paid and Van shows
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Speaker 1: they both do a masterful job of using the talent
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Speaker 1: and the tactics to put the game in their favor.
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Speaker 4: And the other thing was that was a short week.
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Speaker 4: They played Monday night and travel like all those all
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Speaker 4: those factors that some people might be using as some
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Speaker 4: kind of an excuse if they don't play well and
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Speaker 4: they got off to a sluggish start. You know, but man,
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Speaker 4: they that defense is just what they do. It's it's
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Speaker 4: really They play so many coverages behind that front right now,
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Speaker 4: and they have five different guys that can win on
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Speaker 4: one on one. I thought Lane Johnson just shut out
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Speaker 4: Cooper over on one side, But I thought the other guys,
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Speaker 4: you know, really handled things pretty good upfront, and you know,
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Speaker 4: to just to see the Eagles just completely get away
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Speaker 4: from who they are your point, Bucky, like, that's that's
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Speaker 4: pretty that's pretty shocking.
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Speaker 3: Actually, no question they had a chance to put that
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Speaker 3: game away and didn't do it. All right, let's get
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Speaker 3: to the game of the day, Tampa Bay Seattle. These
14:10
Speaker 3: are two of the better teams in the league, both
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Speaker 3: playing at a very high level, aided by quarterbacks and
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Speaker 3: receiver combinations that have been electric. I mean, you think
14:19
Speaker 3: about the connection with Sam and Baker teammates together for
14:21
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. That's insane when you think about that.
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Speaker 5: Give me your notes, DJ on what you had on
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Speaker 5: Abuca coming at Like he just slides through everything, like
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Speaker 5: so he's so smooth.
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Speaker 3: All right baldy, strong physical receiver with ability to play
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Speaker 3: inside or out. Quick in his release, he can fight
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Speaker 3: his way through press. I thought he's more of a
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Speaker 3: one speed route runner, but he's comfortable working in traffic.
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Speaker 3: He attacks the ball in the air in the middle
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Speaker 3: of the field. On vertical routes, he tracks the ball
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Speaker 3: extremely well. Has a knack for utilizing late hands to
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Speaker 3: prevent defender from playing the pocket and poking the ball away.
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Speaker 3: Has a great feel working in zones and adjusting this
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Speaker 3: route if the play is prolonged after the catch. More
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Speaker 3: toughness and pure speed to create extra yards. He's earned
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Speaker 3: rave reviews from NFL teams for the knowledge and leadership
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Speaker 3: uh he's shown when they've met with him. Overall, here's
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Speaker 3: the here's the kicker. Overall, I view abukas an impact
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Speaker 3: slot in the mold of former Buck guy Jackson Smith
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Speaker 3: and Jigba.
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Speaker 2: They shared.
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Speaker 3: They shared the field with both to tore the other
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Speaker 3: team apart. Yeah, but he's so nuanced. I'll pull my
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Speaker 3: note just from this game, just off of him. In
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Speaker 3: this game.
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Speaker 2: Slot.
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Speaker 3: He plays play inside, he play outside. He's so fluid
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Speaker 3: and smooth, wins on a whole shot lots of you
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Speaker 3: see skinny posts, you see a deep post. He's got
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Speaker 3: unbelievable feeling zone like, he's just got the awareness and
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Speaker 3: instinct to somebody who's been playing a heck of a
15:40
Speaker 3: lot longer than he's played.
15:41
Speaker 2: Buck.
15:42
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing that I would say about
15:43
Speaker 1: both of those guys, because it was funny when you
15:47
Speaker 1: look at the guys that played around them. There's more
15:49
Speaker 1: maybe flash and sizzle, But both of those guys I
15:52
Speaker 1: think you could put at the end of your port
15:54
Speaker 1: just a pro like.
15:55
Speaker 2: They just play the.
15:56
Speaker 1: Game like season veterans, pros, high i Q players, skill
16:00
Speaker 1: route runners. They can do their job, and they have
16:03
Speaker 1: the versatility that every offensive coordinator wants and at least
16:06
Speaker 1: one receiver being able to play inside and outside.
16:09
Speaker 2: And look, man, we talked about Brian Hartline.
16:13
Speaker 1: We've said what Ohio State does to develop wide receivers,
16:17
Speaker 1: but I think every Sunday is an inframercier for Ohio
16:20
Speaker 1: State when it comes to their white house, like in
16:22
Speaker 1: this game in particular, if I'm a recruit and I'm
16:26
Speaker 1: looking at how they're having success, why wouldn't I go
16:28
Speaker 1: to Ohio State because they appear to be next level
16:31
Speaker 1: ready when they step in and a book in JSN
16:34
Speaker 1: are prime examples of that, you know.
16:37
Speaker 4: They So they're down thirty five twenty eight with three
16:40
Speaker 4: minutes to go, and Baker takes him on a five
16:43
Speaker 4: place seventy yard drive with a touchdown to Shepherd and
16:47
Speaker 4: the on the touchdown throw, he's looking for a book and.
16:50
Speaker 5: They double him. They bracket him pretty good. He takes
16:52
Speaker 5: a peak, he looks through the right, it's not there.
16:55
Speaker 4: And then Baker does what he's been doing now, Like
16:57
Speaker 4: his ability, it's not for there is some sort of
17:02
Speaker 4: like movement, but how he moves and how he escapes
17:06
Speaker 4: it's like it's different really than anybody else. And so
17:10
Speaker 4: he escapes to his left and he takes a shot
17:13
Speaker 4: to Shephard like I don't even know if he's open,
17:15
Speaker 4: but he threw him open and he's getting chased pretty
17:18
Speaker 4: good on the play. He was just an amaze, Like
17:21
Speaker 4: that guy is a candidate to be the MVP of
17:24
Speaker 4: this league.
17:24
Speaker 5: Right it's five weeks, I get it, But the way
17:26
Speaker 5: that guy's playing with his shorthanded as a bet on
17:29
Speaker 5: the offensive line at receivers, you name it, and for
17:32
Speaker 5: them to be where they are he's he just keeps
17:36
Speaker 5: getting better.
17:37
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna see if I can pull this
17:39
Speaker 3: up because I wanted to go back through his report
17:42
Speaker 3: because we're talking about these guys, and I'll get to
17:43
Speaker 3: Darnold here in a second, because it's interesting. I think
17:45
Speaker 3: these guys have kind of ended up where we hope
17:48
Speaker 3: they would end up. Mayfield unique setup. He's frenetic, which
17:52
Speaker 3: speaks to a little bit what you're talking about Baldi,
17:54
Speaker 3: but he's consistently accurate despite throwing from a variety of
17:57
Speaker 3: platforms and arm angles generates a ton of tork from
17:59
Speaker 3: his lord body.
18:00
Speaker 2: You need to see him.
18:01
Speaker 3: Play in person to fully appreciate the way the ball
18:04
Speaker 3: jumps out of his hand. His offensive line to night
18:07
Speaker 3: chop keeping and clean, but when pressure, he showed the
18:08
Speaker 3: ability to extend plays while keeping his eyes down the field.
18:10
Speaker 3: He's accurate on the move, and while he lacks top speed,
18:13
Speaker 3: he's very effective on desired QB runs. The biggest challenge
18:17
Speaker 3: coming out of that offense involves a lack of tight
18:20
Speaker 3: window throws he's had to make. It will take some
18:22
Speaker 3: time for him to adjust to the lack of space.
18:24
Speaker 3: At the next level. There are some questions about some
18:26
Speaker 3: maturity stuff off the field. Long story short, Mayfield might
18:30
Speaker 3: lack ideal size, but I love his accuracy, playmaking skills,
18:33
Speaker 3: and toughness.
18:34
Speaker 2: He has the tools to be a quality starter early
18:36
Speaker 2: in his career. So and that's kind of where he is.
18:40
Speaker 3: Which I want to get to Sam because I'll read
18:42
Speaker 3: just Sam, yeah, and then we'll see, you know, if
18:46
Speaker 3: if this sounds like this is kind of where he's
18:47
Speaker 3: landed on as he's he's really up.
18:50
Speaker 5: You know. They he threw the interception of Levante and
18:53
Speaker 5: they ran that weak side overload with Winfield coming free
18:57
Speaker 5: to get to Sam. But they ran that.
18:59
Speaker 4: They ran that split six times against the Jets. They
19:02
Speaker 4: got home every single time. It was either Winfield or
19:04
Speaker 4: Powers was coming. And Todd can Todd will get a
19:09
Speaker 4: free hitter to your quarterback man, He's going to happen.
19:11
Speaker 4: And he just happened in the the biggest moment of
19:14
Speaker 4: the game there in the final minute, fifty eight seconds ago.
19:17
Speaker 2: And no doubt here is the Sam thing.
19:19
Speaker 3: Thick, dirty frame operating the shotgun quick feet throws from
19:23
Speaker 3: a wide base, has a long, loopy throwing motion, but
19:25
Speaker 3: it's actually quick and explosive. He's showing the ability to
19:28
Speaker 3: tighten up its times. It's very quick guys to work
19:30
Speaker 3: through progressions and throws with an excellent anticipation. He can
19:33
Speaker 3: change ball speed and ball flight. Has enough velocity to
19:36
Speaker 3: fit balls and tight windows. Once he improves his weight transfer,
19:39
Speaker 3: you'll see an up ticking accuracy and velocity. He's a
19:42
Speaker 3: nifty athlete, capable of escaping free rushers and creating explosives
19:46
Speaker 3: down the field. Very competitive runner fight for yards. Biggest
19:49
Speaker 3: issue has been a fumble issue that he's had. I
19:51
Speaker 3: needs to do a better job keeping both hands in
19:53
Speaker 3: the ball in the pocket and covering the ball up
19:55
Speaker 3: once he takes off. Overall, Darnold has some areas to
19:57
Speaker 3: clean up. But I love his size, competitiveness, and ability
19:59
Speaker 3: to make play on and off schedule. But he's gosh,
20:03
Speaker 3: he's both these guys are playing great ball man. Look
20:05
Speaker 3: at the numbers in this game. Uh, there weren't any
20:08
Speaker 3: incomplete newspapers Rose, but Baker and Sam was twenty eight
20:13
Speaker 3: for thirty four, Baker three seventy nine, Sam three forty one.
20:17
Speaker 3: They combined for six touchdowns, a one pick, and then
20:20
Speaker 3: the JSN stuff just kind of put a bow on
20:22
Speaker 3: this whole thing. Uh, he's living outside man. For I
20:25
Speaker 3: thought he was going to be an unbelievable slot receiver.
20:28
Speaker 3: He has turned into one of the best outside receivers
20:30
Speaker 3: in the NFL. He's plenty capable out there. He's he
20:35
Speaker 3: wins and slants Buck in such a variety of ways
20:37
Speaker 3: where you'll see one step slants and you'll see him whin.
20:40
Speaker 3: You'll see guys off of him, and he has that
20:42
Speaker 3: kind of aj brown like the little heal give him
20:44
Speaker 3: a full two hand shove, you know, if they're gonna
20:46
Speaker 3: squad on him and creates that separation there. Then he
20:49
Speaker 3: also can he can weaven stem guys up and get
20:52
Speaker 3: them off their off balance across their face. But he
20:54
Speaker 3: has become an unbelievably effective slant route runner. And then
20:58
Speaker 3: when he's working in the middle of the field, running
20:59
Speaker 3: through zones, he's got such a feel for tempo. You
21:03
Speaker 3: know how many times you see guys just run to
21:05
Speaker 3: get covered like he's got a really good feel. I mean,
21:08
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing. These guys have been trained
21:10
Speaker 3: and taught very well by heartline to your point, Buck,
21:12
Speaker 3: but I think both these players are so naturally instinctive
21:15
Speaker 3: and have just a great feel for the game.
21:18
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they're really talented.
21:21
Speaker 5: Man.
21:21
Speaker 1: They do a great job and their versatility is everything.
21:24
Speaker 1: And to me, when you are a number one on
21:27
Speaker 1: an aspiring number one, the more tools that you have
21:30
Speaker 1: in your toolbox to allow your offensive coordinator to move
21:32
Speaker 1: you around to get away from some of the tactics
21:36
Speaker 1: and double coverage and brackets and those things, you just
21:39
Speaker 1: need to have that in your arsenal. So I just
21:41
Speaker 1: feel like both of these guys are well equipped to
21:44
Speaker 1: always be impact players because you can do so many
21:48
Speaker 1: different things with them as young players that you can
21:50
Speaker 1: only imagine as their knowledge base grows, what you're going
21:54
Speaker 1: to be able to do when they're year five, six
21:56
Speaker 1: seven in the.
21:57
Speaker 2: League, No doubt.
21:58
Speaker 3: Let's say, quick Pause will back into a game I
22:01
Speaker 3: was at the had a wild turn the Commanders, and
22:03
Speaker 3: the Chargers will jump into that right after this. All right, guys,
22:09
Speaker 3: that was a weird one at SOLFI yesterday. I mean
22:11
Speaker 3: the Chargers are up ten to nothing. They're driving big
22:14
Speaker 3: completion to Quentin Johnson. You think it's going to be
22:16
Speaker 3: seventeen nothing and it's going to be kind of a laugher,
22:19
Speaker 3: and then Quent Johnson fumbles and then that just changed
22:22
Speaker 3: the momentum of this game. But it was it was
22:25
Speaker 3: a game baldy where the Commanders got stronger as the
22:28
Speaker 3: game went along. The Chargers for the second week in
22:30
Speaker 3: a row, a ton of penalties, double digit penalties, some
22:32
Speaker 3: costly penalties, including a touchdown that was called back on
22:35
Speaker 3: a punt return. But man, I don't know how you
22:38
Speaker 3: go anywhere else than what that backfield looks like now, Washington.
22:41
Speaker 2: It's pretty exciting. Man.
22:42
Speaker 4: Well that Bill Krossky Merritt. I mean, this story is
22:46
Speaker 4: it has to, you know, continue to blow up. But
22:48
Speaker 4: he's I mean, we saw there was a reason why
22:51
Speaker 4: you know, they they traded Brian Robinson at the start
22:54
Speaker 4: of the season, like they saw this guy's ability.
22:57
Speaker 5: And the story is just an amazing story.
22:59
Speaker 4: Didn't play or all the stuff that we kind of
23:01
Speaker 4: talked about, but his put that foot in the ground
23:04
Speaker 4: quickness and the way that they are running the ball
23:07
Speaker 4: right now using a variety of formations.
23:11
Speaker 3: Those tight ends are freaking leads in there.
23:13
Speaker 4: Man at number eighty seven is as good at blocking
23:16
Speaker 4: tight end as there is right now in the league,
23:18
Speaker 4: and they run behind him a bunch, and so it's Uh,
23:21
Speaker 4: it's you know, it's it's it's always been Cliffs Mantra, honestly,
23:26
Speaker 4: even when he was at Texas Tech and even go
23:27
Speaker 4: back to A and M like spread him out and
23:30
Speaker 4: figure out ways to open up the lanes and we're
23:33
Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna hit him quick. And he's got every
23:35
Speaker 4: run in the book. And it can be from unbalanced formations,
23:39
Speaker 4: it can be from power power formations in the backfield,
23:43
Speaker 4: it can be you know, out of the shotgun. It
23:45
Speaker 4: could be used in the quarterback as a decoy. Mean,
23:47
Speaker 4: he's got every variety of run that there is right.
23:50
Speaker 2: Now, Buck, they flipped.
23:52
Speaker 3: They flipped on one play the quarterback and the running
23:55
Speaker 3: back and then and then Merritt, big bad Bill runs
23:58
Speaker 3: freaking wildcat like his own reading gets right up into
24:01
Speaker 3: the hole. Like I mean, it was just they were
24:03
Speaker 3: it was it was very creative. And it wasn't just Bates,
24:05
Speaker 3: who's an unbelievable blocker sent it did a nice job
24:07
Speaker 3: as well.
24:08
Speaker 2: Eighty two.
24:08
Speaker 3: Uh, both those Titans leading up into the hole. So
24:10
Speaker 3: they were they were creative, they were physical, and they
24:14
Speaker 3: kind of you know, look when you when you're looking
24:16
Speaker 3: at that team and you're sitting there going okay, Man,
24:18
Speaker 3: I looked at him on tape watching them, I'm like,
24:20
Speaker 3: the secondary is giving up more big plays than anybody
24:22
Speaker 3: in football. I don't know that they're all that dynamic
24:25
Speaker 3: and their defensive front. And then all of a sudden
24:28
Speaker 3: you get a healthy Jayden Daniels back in there, and
24:30
Speaker 3: Mario did a nice job, but this is different. He's
24:32
Speaker 3: a different caliber guy and it brings quarterbacks like that,
24:35
Speaker 3: and you've talked about it before. It just brings hope
24:37
Speaker 3: and and it brings energy to the whole club.
24:39
Speaker 2: It brings energy. It was a homecoming for Jade Daniels
24:42
Speaker 2: coming back.
24:42
Speaker 1: Played alcoholm high school, so this was the opportunity for
24:45
Speaker 1: all of his people to see him.
24:46
Speaker 2: You knew he's gonna put on a show.
24:48
Speaker 1: And I would say the thing that is really impressive,
24:50
Speaker 1: not only about him, but about the Commander's team is Man,
24:52
Speaker 1: they go as he goes, and he's the drumbeat, but
24:55
Speaker 1: he has a calm demeanor about him.
24:59
Speaker 2: Sat where it does.
25:00
Speaker 1: The game doesn't get too high or out of source
25:02
Speaker 1: and DJ, the thing that you said that stood out
25:05
Speaker 1: on tape was their overall physicality, Like you know, it's
25:08
Speaker 1: funny because Cliff Kingsbury gets.
25:10
Speaker 2: To the wrap of being the air raid Wizard.
25:12
Speaker 1: They want to throw it all over the yard, but
25:14
Speaker 1: at the heart of arts, like they run the football,
25:16
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn is working in Joe Whitjew, You're working
25:19
Speaker 1: to get this defense on track. And when you look
25:21
Speaker 1: at the landscape, you look at the NFC East and
25:23
Speaker 1: how tight it was and how they made ground.
25:26
Speaker 2: They stumbled out the gate.
25:27
Speaker 1: For the last few weeks, we've seen this team kind
25:30
Speaker 1: of be the team that many of us expected, and.
25:32
Speaker 2: So they're in the hunting.
25:34
Speaker 1: As long as they have that quarterback healthy, they have
25:36
Speaker 1: a chance because they can go knock off anybody.
25:39
Speaker 5: GJ.
25:40
Speaker 4: I saw von Miller had a couple couple more sacks.
25:43
Speaker 4: Is he like the official closer right now? Does he
25:46
Speaker 4: still have von Miller type? You know, like getting his
25:49
Speaker 4: hands on guys and just figuring out how to you know,
25:52
Speaker 4: either bend or come off a twist or whatever.
25:55
Speaker 5: I have to watch, so I'm looking forward to see it.
25:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still got the long arm and so he
26:00
Speaker 3: can dust that off. And then the Chargers, i mean,
26:02
Speaker 3: Pipkins goes down. So you got your fourth and fifth
26:05
Speaker 3: tackles out there. Yeah, yeah, that was I mean, you
26:08
Speaker 3: got no chance, but so you got overseet issues and
26:11
Speaker 3: they had some wins inside of those tackles. So it
26:15
Speaker 3: was a tough one for Herbert from that standpoint. But
26:17
Speaker 3: I was thinking of it, like I know nothing about music.
26:19
Speaker 3: I've never had a music lesson, I've never played an
26:21
Speaker 3: instrument at all. But I have this image of like
26:24
Speaker 3: if you're Cliff Kingsbury, is you're a drummer and the
26:28
Speaker 3: symbol is Deebo Samuel because you're just kind of hitting
26:30
Speaker 3: the drums and it's like, oh yeah, let's just get
26:32
Speaker 3: a little quick screen to debo.
26:33
Speaker 2: Okay, boom boom boom.
26:34
Speaker 3: Let's get a little quick screen to deep. That's seven
26:36
Speaker 3: to ten yards anytime you want it, anytime you want
26:38
Speaker 3: to hit that little symbol and just shoot the ball
26:40
Speaker 3: out there Deebo Samuel. By the time you get him
26:42
Speaker 3: on the ground, it's seven or eight yards.
26:45
Speaker 4: Do you think on Cliff's play sheet he just has
26:47
Speaker 4: deebo plays like there's just ten plays right there. Then
26:50
Speaker 4: he can you know, second and seven, Okay, let's go
26:52
Speaker 4: get the first down, Like it could be that simple
26:55
Speaker 4: right now.
26:56
Speaker 3: And the other thing is on those over routes, Like
26:58
Speaker 3: a lot of times you think about over routes, think
27:00
Speaker 3: about okay, it's a just pure speed. You're just trying
27:02
Speaker 3: to get from A to B as fast as you can.
27:05
Speaker 3: He is so good. I've never seen somebody so strong
27:08
Speaker 3: without using their hands. Or he'll just get up to
27:10
Speaker 3: the defender buck and it's just like a little shoulder
27:13
Speaker 3: and he's just so big and strong. It just kicks
27:15
Speaker 3: that corner off his path for two or three yards.
27:18
Speaker 3: And Devo is not the fastest guy roll, but that
27:20
Speaker 3: little nudget that he gives on those things, it's enough
27:23
Speaker 3: separation he needs to get across the field and make plays.
27:25
Speaker 2: Man he is.
27:26
Speaker 1: Look, he's the invitiment of why you know some teams
27:29
Speaker 1: prefer to have guys with punk returned skills in the
27:32
Speaker 1: background out wide And when you see him and you
27:35
Speaker 1: think about his bodybuild and how thick he is, DJ
27:38
Speaker 1: the challenge that he poses to DB's is trying to
27:41
Speaker 1: get him down in space because he's a physical runner.
27:44
Speaker 2: He has big size, big legs.
27:46
Speaker 1: He runs through arm tackles and so you got to
27:49
Speaker 1: front him up to get him down. And the more
27:52
Speaker 1: they give him the ball on those short screens, or whatever,
27:55
Speaker 1: the better he gets when they get it all together
27:59
Speaker 1: mclauren and Debo and and they kind of kind of
28:02
Speaker 1: figure out what's the best combination to maximize everybody Office
28:06
Speaker 1: is going to be more explosive then we could ever imagine.
28:09
Speaker 1: This is a really good team of well constructed team
28:11
Speaker 1: and look, the best is still yet to comfort them
28:13
Speaker 1: as they're still turning over.
28:15
Speaker 3: Their roster from your guys playing career Baldi buck is deep.
28:18
Speaker 3: Is there any comp for historical comp for Debo just
28:20
Speaker 3: kind of how he plays? I mean, I know Sterling
28:23
Speaker 3: was so much faster. That's that's that's that's I think.
28:28
Speaker 5: Ye didn't use them like that, but they could have
28:31
Speaker 5: something like that.
28:32
Speaker 2: I just couldn't.
28:33
Speaker 4: I just think, you know, sometimes like I think Debo,
28:37
Speaker 4: he didn't wear out as welcome.
28:38
Speaker 5: They just didn't use them.
28:39
Speaker 4: I mean they outside of putting them in at the
28:41
Speaker 4: tailback position when they were short handed, they didn't use them.
28:45
Speaker 4: I think the way Cliff is using them, I think
28:47
Speaker 4: it's just a perfect blend. The analogy with the with
28:52
Speaker 4: the symbol is pretty good there.
28:53
Speaker 2: DJ.
28:54
Speaker 4: I just feel like they just know how to use them,
28:58
Speaker 4: you know, and use his strengths and and it's like
29:00
Speaker 4: a really, it's a great fit early this season.
29:03
Speaker 3: All right, we don't need to spend long on these
29:06
Speaker 3: next few here, but I wanted to hit a couple
29:08
Speaker 3: of things here, Houston Baltimore, and I could go easily
29:11
Speaker 3: into the Baltimore bad, but I'm going to start Houston
29:13
Speaker 3: good Stroud twenty three to twenty seven. And I know
29:16
Speaker 3: Baltimore's missing everybody, but they needed a game like that
29:19
Speaker 3: from him. Two hundred and forty four yards, four touchdowns,
29:21
Speaker 3: no picks. It was interesting to watch the tape when
29:24
Speaker 3: they were when they were in pocket, everything was in rhythm.
29:28
Speaker 3: There was some play action, the ball was gone like
29:30
Speaker 3: they were not going to let this offensive line, you know,
29:32
Speaker 3: have be a stumbling block for him. So it was
29:34
Speaker 3: in the pocket, get the ball out quick, which obviously
29:37
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to get the ball vertical.
29:39
Speaker 3: When they wanted to take their shots down the field,
29:41
Speaker 3: it was boots and they were moving the pocket. So hey,
29:44
Speaker 3: we want to be able to attack vertically, but we're
29:46
Speaker 3: not going to do that as a stationary target in
29:48
Speaker 3: the pocket behind an offensive line. It's a little suspect.
29:51
Speaker 3: So we're going to go ahead and get him on
29:52
Speaker 3: the move and we want to push the ball vertical.
29:54
Speaker 3: I thought it was a pretty good game plan from
29:55
Speaker 3: them that he executed really well. And then Jalen Petrie
29:58
Speaker 3: had two picks. Who's and a good player in this
30:00
Speaker 3: league since he came out of Baylor, and he's goot,
30:03
Speaker 3: he's kind of Johnny on the spot, always around the football.
30:06
Speaker 4: I thought the one two punch of Chubb and Woody
30:11
Speaker 4: marks is uh is pretty strong. I mean, that's the
30:14
Speaker 4: best offensive line play. I know they changed coordinators. You know,
30:18
Speaker 4: Ariante's over at left tackle. I've seen them both sides
30:21
Speaker 4: right now, But that was the best the line played
30:23
Speaker 4: in the running game. I thought they had a good
30:25
Speaker 4: one to two punch in the run game yesterday. And
30:27
Speaker 4: then you know, Nico's Nico, Like they Baltimore had no
30:31
Speaker 4: idea what to do with him. I mean, it was
30:33
Speaker 4: one good throw after another. But you know, Hutchinson came
30:35
Speaker 4: up pretty big, is it Zebra Hutchinson?
30:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. Iowa State, Iowa State.
30:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I thought all the you know, they got
30:42
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of Iowa State receivers. I think all
30:45
Speaker 4: those guys you know, had good contributions yesterday.
30:49
Speaker 2: Buck.
30:49
Speaker 3: How about the Baltimore side. You want to be the
30:50
Speaker 3: bad guy? Yeah, man, it's it's bad.
30:54
Speaker 2: DJ is bad.
30:54
Speaker 4: Now.
30:54
Speaker 1: I know they had seven quote unquote Pro bowlers they
30:57
Speaker 1: were sitting out, but still, man, it's not supposed to
31:00
Speaker 1: fall this far off. And before I even talk about
31:03
Speaker 1: the lack of talent in terms of like that being
31:05
Speaker 1: off the field, to me, this is the first time
31:07
Speaker 1: in a long time that I've seen the Baltimore Ravens without.
31:11
Speaker 2: Their swagging, their identity. They're a swaggerless team.
31:14
Speaker 1: This is a team that has always been able to
31:16
Speaker 1: lean into We may be shorthanded, but we can beat
31:19
Speaker 1: you up. We can make it a brawl in those things.
31:22
Speaker 1: And right now they don't have the confidence. And part
31:25
Speaker 1: of the reason they don't have the confidence because the
31:27
Speaker 1: first time in a long time, their defense is the
31:29
Speaker 1: weak link. They're bad on defense, I mean, and they're
31:33
Speaker 1: bad on the fundamental the fundamental things, tackling, pursuit, angles, alignment,
31:39
Speaker 1: basic stuff. Never seen the Ravens like this. And I
31:43
Speaker 1: know and never advocate for people losing.
31:47
Speaker 2: Jobs or whatever.
31:48
Speaker 1: And I know John Harborough through his full support behind
31:50
Speaker 1: Zach Orr and I know they have other guys but
31:53
Speaker 1: the Jay, the clock is ticking one and four.
31:55
Speaker 2: For a team that is as talented as they come,
31:58
Speaker 2: they have to fix this. D fits in a hurry.
32:00
Speaker 1: They got a week, did a bye week, but man,
32:02
Speaker 1: change has to come and has to come right now.
32:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad.
32:07
Speaker 3: And Kyle Vanoy his quote was gapp put in the
32:10
Speaker 3: chat here no excuses. I just watched the Niners have injuries,
32:13
Speaker 3: go out there and play football. As professionals, you get
32:15
Speaker 3: paid to place. We have to go play better. We
32:17
Speaker 3: have to get ours together just being brutally honest. Coaches
32:20
Speaker 3: can give us the plays, but we have to execute.
32:22
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter who you are in there, do
32:24
Speaker 3: your job. Coaches asked you to do something, do it,
32:27
Speaker 3: myself included. So yeah, they realized that it's not good enough.
32:30
Speaker 3: The way they've played. I can't recall it. The never
32:33
Speaker 3: I can't recall because there never has been a Baltimore
32:35
Speaker 3: defense like this. Ever, it's bad, ever bad. Baldy Detroit, Cincinnati,
32:41
Speaker 3: you were there, what you see?
32:42
Speaker 4: You know yesterday Detroit was rolling out a alumni of
32:49
Speaker 4: University of British Columbia. You've been up there to recruit
32:53
Speaker 4: tape only Okay, So you know, they've got two starting
32:56
Speaker 4: tackles in this league right now.
32:58
Speaker 5: All right, yesterday, uh this Giovanni Maneu made.
33:02
Speaker 4: His first NFL start. He's a second year player from
33:05
Speaker 4: British Clubia. That the kid, Theos Benedict in Chicago starting
33:09
Speaker 4: at left tackle. So I talked to Hank Frailey. So
33:12
Speaker 4: Hank was kind of like, he's going up against a
33:14
Speaker 4: good player. They've all will find out what he's all about.
33:17
Speaker 4: But you know, they let him go against you know,
33:18
Speaker 4: Trey Henderson, and Trey made a couple of plays out there.
33:21
Speaker 4: He definitely got a force fumble and made some plays.
33:23
Speaker 5: But the kid, first of all, when you see the kid,
33:26
Speaker 5: he's six seven, he's long arms, he's got a shaved head,
33:30
Speaker 5: like he looks the part, you know. And then you
33:33
Speaker 5: go and you go, okay.
33:34
Speaker 4: There's Penny Sewel and there's the there's the mullet on
33:38
Speaker 4: Ratlds right here. Like they've got this thing together up front,
33:43
Speaker 4: and so it doesn't matter if Montgomery's running or if
33:45
Speaker 4: he's throwing it, or if it's Jamiir Gibbs.
33:48
Speaker 5: Like they've got a formula right now.
33:51
Speaker 4: And every week it seems like Johnny Morton's got a
33:54
Speaker 4: guy that's gonna kind of be the So yesterday, you know,
33:58
Speaker 4: the tight end had a big day and it was
34:00
Speaker 4: crossing round they got they hit these crossing routes to
34:03
Speaker 4: him and Demon Ross Saint Brown, and honestly, it looks
34:07
Speaker 4: like a Friday afternoon walkthrough, Like basically golf doesn't get hit.
34:12
Speaker 4: He stands there on his post and stand five yards
34:15
Speaker 4: and he just carves him up, and uh, it was.
34:17
Speaker 4: It was pretty impressive. They were really shorthanded in the
34:20
Speaker 4: secondary on defense. But the quarterback was so bad that
34:25
Speaker 4: even with Jamar Chase and and t I thought they
34:27
Speaker 4: could take advantage of it out there, and they just
34:30
Speaker 4: he was just so bad.
34:30
Speaker 5: I don't know what he was doing.
34:31
Speaker 4: It was, it was. It was really rough to watch it.
34:34
Speaker 4: They can't run the ball at all. They're lasting offense.
34:37
Speaker 4: They made a couple of plays in the fourth quarter
34:39
Speaker 4: to try to try to stay in the game a
34:40
Speaker 4: little bit, but it was it was hard to watch them,
34:43
Speaker 4: and it was a that was a that was a
34:45
Speaker 4: beat down.
34:45
Speaker 5: Pretty good.
34:46
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow might get MVP votes.
34:47
Speaker 1: Fuck, he should get MVP boats based on how they
34:51
Speaker 1: look without him there.
34:52
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a bad football team.
34:54
Speaker 1: And it's funny, right because I'm there when Joe Burrow
34:56
Speaker 1: gets hurt, Jake brown comes in and the second half
34:58
Speaker 1: he gets hot, and then then the world at the
35:01
Speaker 1: table was like, Okay, we're going to cut that off
35:03
Speaker 1: and nail what.
35:04
Speaker 2: And they haven't been able to put anything.
35:06
Speaker 1: And I have seen Jake Browning at his best couple
35:09
Speaker 1: of years ago when he stepped in and kind of
35:11
Speaker 1: had them in contention for a playoffs.
35:12
Speaker 2: But he look, he's been bad.
35:14
Speaker 1: And look, it's it's criminal in terms of the wasted
35:19
Speaker 1: talent that they have on the perimeter when you don't
35:21
Speaker 1: have anybody who can get them the ball.
35:23
Speaker 2: But here's that's the biggest thing.
35:25
Speaker 4: I think one of the issues bucking why Jake Browning,
35:28
Speaker 4: you know, isn't playing worth of darn is they look
35:32
Speaker 4: like they're running the same offense that Joe Burrow runs,
35:35
Speaker 4: you know, and Joe just goes through progressions like nobody
35:38
Speaker 4: else in his business. So he can take a peek
35:40
Speaker 4: at tomorrow. Okay, they got him bracketed. Okay, I'm coming
35:43
Speaker 4: over to the other side, like Jake can't play like that.
35:45
Speaker 4: So I don't see some of the creativity DJing that
35:48
Speaker 4: we see in this league to get guys loose, to
35:51
Speaker 4: shake the loose where it's a you know, like what
35:53
Speaker 4: they're doing in Indianapolis for you know Daniel Jones right now,
35:56
Speaker 4: Like they don't they're not doing those kind of things
36:00
Speaker 4: to get to the ball or to get Ja Mar
36:02
Speaker 4: the ball. And you know it's not Look, it's an
36:06
Speaker 4: indictment on Brownie. He's not good enough. But don't ask
36:08
Speaker 4: Brownie to be Joe Burrow out there and play quarterback.
36:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Joe Burrow is the best whack a mole
36:13
Speaker 3: player in the NFL. I mean, like if there's he sees,
36:16
Speaker 3: he sees the entire board and is able to react
36:18
Speaker 3: to it unlike anybody else. So there's not just a
36:20
Speaker 3: Browning thing. I don't know many quarterbacks that could play
36:23
Speaker 3: the way the Burrow plays. I want to go back
36:25
Speaker 3: over to golf real quick. I wrote this down, like
36:28
Speaker 3: you know, you're watching guys and at different positions, and
36:31
Speaker 3: you're sitting there going, you know, if I had a
36:32
Speaker 3: high school quarterback and I wanted to have somebody with
36:35
Speaker 3: teaching tape. Yeah, I don't know anybody thinks that golf
36:38
Speaker 3: might be the one that I would pick because I've
36:41
Speaker 3: always been taught. You know, it's almost like the John
36:43
Speaker 3: Wooden thing. Be quick, but not in a hurry. You know,
36:45
Speaker 3: you want to have quick feet, but you don't want
36:47
Speaker 3: to be you know, too frazzled or too too too
36:51
Speaker 3: frenetic or too busy. He has got really really quick feet.
36:54
Speaker 3: But everything he does is so smooth and fluid and easy.
36:57
Speaker 3: And part of that I get is because the offensive
36:59
Speaker 3: line is so good and they afford him clean pockets,
37:02
Speaker 3: but he throws from a firm platform. It's everything is
37:05
Speaker 3: textbook about what he does. They did a ton of
37:07
Speaker 3: stuff in this game where they pair up the tight
37:09
Speaker 3: ends on the same side and they had you know,
37:11
Speaker 3: I think about creativity and some of the stuff they did.
37:13
Speaker 3: Uh that was that was an effective way for him.
37:16
Speaker 3: But I just thought, man, this is the best quick, smooth, fluid,
37:20
Speaker 3: you know quarterback when I was growing up and I
37:22
Speaker 3: was young, but I used to always and when I
37:25
Speaker 3: just started playing in college, like they would always show
37:27
Speaker 3: us stuff of Montana.
37:28
Speaker 2: That was the guy.
37:29
Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, he's not the biggest guy to have
37:30
Speaker 3: the strongest arm or anything. Well, look at how fluid
37:33
Speaker 3: and smoothies. I like just be as smooth and flu
37:35
Speaker 3: We used to talk about even like kind of rocking
37:37
Speaker 3: the ball and your drop like kind of from shoulder
37:38
Speaker 3: to shoulder and just kind of allowing yourself to get
37:40
Speaker 3: a nice little smooth rhythm to it, and and golf
37:43
Speaker 3: plays that way. So he was again foreign completions. There's
37:47
Speaker 3: a lot of games where quarterbacks just didn't throw in completions.
37:49
Speaker 3: You only have four completions and three touchdowns. So he
37:52
Speaker 3: is great almost forty games.
37:54
Speaker 4: Easy Yeah, easy moved off their gas in the fourth Quarner.
37:59
Speaker 1: Let me say this because I might have been the
38:02
Speaker 1: biggest skeptic when it came to John Morton and David Sean.
38:05
Speaker 2: All these guys taken over for.
38:07
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, all of the physical and fun stuff that
38:10
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson has done. They've been able to continue to
38:12
Speaker 1: do some of that while finding their identity and listen
38:16
Speaker 1: to a mom Rod Saint Brown talk to Dave Montgomery
38:19
Speaker 1: on a podcast and they were talking about the differences
38:21
Speaker 1: between Ben Johnson and Johnny Moe and how Johnny Moe
38:25
Speaker 1: is direct and he's a little different when it comes
38:29
Speaker 1: to the edginess of his presentations.
38:31
Speaker 2: But they've retained some of this fun.
38:33
Speaker 1: Stuff, and they still have I would say, like the
38:38
Speaker 1: physicality and toughness the Wildcat played down at the goal
38:42
Speaker 1: line Montgomery during the jump.
38:44
Speaker 2: Pass, like they still have some of that stuff.
38:46
Speaker 1: I just give John Morton a lot of credit because
38:48
Speaker 1: I think he stepped into some big shoes to replace
38:51
Speaker 1: because you had an expectation of what this offense has been.
38:56
Speaker 2: It's hard to keep the points up, the.
38:59
Speaker 1: Physicality up, makes it some fun plays and do all that.
39:03
Speaker 1: But he's found a way to do it within his
39:05
Speaker 1: own personality. So it ass off to him for being
39:09
Speaker 1: able to take that over and do it well.
39:10
Speaker 5: All putting up forty and really Jameis and William has
39:13
Speaker 5: been very quiet the last two weeks, and so like
39:16
Speaker 5: once they get him going and his speed like it's
39:20
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know if anybody can slow
39:22
Speaker 5: him down right now.
39:23
Speaker 2: Have they told you, Baldi how much they're given golf.
39:25
Speaker 3: It feels like he's got maybe a little more control
39:28
Speaker 3: in this in this environment that maybe I just talked.
39:30
Speaker 5: To him briefly on the field before the game. He
39:33
Speaker 5: takes his warm up pretty.
39:34
Speaker 4: Serious, so you know, you don't want to interrupt too
39:37
Speaker 4: much of that, but he just has a like just
39:40
Speaker 4: the level of focus. You know, going on the road
39:43
Speaker 4: in Cincinnati, your crowd was all there, Like just the
39:46
Speaker 4: focus that he plays with, like he just blocks all
39:49
Speaker 4: that stuff out and it is he sees the field
39:51
Speaker 4: so good.
39:52
Speaker 5: He had laporta early in that game.
39:53
Speaker 4: So many times they had no they had no answer
39:56
Speaker 4: for some of the stuff they were doing.
39:58
Speaker 3: Now and on the defensive side of the five quarterback
40:00
Speaker 3: hits for Aden Hudginson, He's got five sacks this year.
40:03
Speaker 3: I went back and watched all of his sacks. He's
40:05
Speaker 3: winning all the ways. Man power.
40:07
Speaker 4: Yesterday DJF wasn't for a little contact on Terry on Arnold. Yeah,
40:12
Speaker 4: he had a safety you know, Dad to that that
40:14
Speaker 4: resume right now, that was impressive.
40:16
Speaker 3: And you know the burst is still there when he
40:18
Speaker 3: can escape and close. There's some there's some change of
40:21
Speaker 3: direction stuff like he worked out here to spin in
40:24
Speaker 3: a previous game where just he not quite as fluid
40:27
Speaker 3: coming off that injury, which I'm sure that's going to come.
40:29
Speaker 3: But speed power, his hands are awesome, Like he looks
40:33
Speaker 3: like he's he's back and you kind of man, you
40:35
Speaker 3: don't want to look in the rear view mirror. What
40:36
Speaker 3: if he didn't get hurt last year? You know, what
40:38
Speaker 3: does that mean for that Detroit team.
40:40
Speaker 4: I talked to I talked to Zeus before the game,
40:42
Speaker 4: and he never played him before, but he knew that.
40:44
Speaker 5: You know, we're talking about max effort.
40:47
Speaker 4: He makes more plays on the other side of the
40:49
Speaker 4: field than any defensive end of this league right now.
40:52
Speaker 5: His effort is.
40:53
Speaker 3: Just you know, he's got Jared Allen traits to him.
40:55
Speaker 3: So that's who he reminded me of when he was
40:57
Speaker 3: coming out. Not just doing the white on white edge
40:59
Speaker 3: rusher comparison there, but that just the effort, like Jared
41:02
Speaker 3: Allen never stopped. Yeah, all right, let's last one here
41:11
Speaker 3: and then we'll be on. Let Baldy get on his
41:13
Speaker 3: way here. Giants Saints. Hey, the Saints won a game.
41:16
Speaker 3: Spencer Ratler won a game. Body, Yeah, no, I mean,
41:19
Speaker 3: and you know, he has been playing pretty well, but
41:21
Speaker 3: I got you know.
41:22
Speaker 4: They hit the big shot to Rashid Shaheed which really
41:26
Speaker 4: kind of opened things up.
41:27
Speaker 5: They got to turnovers, but he's been playing well.
41:30
Speaker 4: Like you know, they had Buffalo twenty one sixteen in
41:33
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. They were driving last week and they
41:36
Speaker 4: let it get away from him. They had Arizona like
41:39
Speaker 4: right down to the wire. They've been playing pretty good.
41:42
Speaker 4: Kellimore's he's a good coordinator.
41:45
Speaker 5: He just knows how to run off and say if
41:47
Speaker 5: they got a good one two punch with Kendre Miller
41:50
Speaker 5: and you know, and Kamaras can still do it.
41:54
Speaker 4: They had a rook they had a rookie right guard
41:56
Speaker 4: you know that never played before in there, and the
41:58
Speaker 4: Giants didn't take advantage of him. In fact, Spencer Rattler,
42:02
Speaker 4: I don't think he got sacked in the game. I
42:03
Speaker 4: don't even know if he got hit. So he looked good.
42:06
Speaker 5: He took off and he ran a couple of times,
42:08
Speaker 5: but he hit the big shot when it was there.
42:10
Speaker 5: Just he's their deep threat. I thought he was. I
42:13
Speaker 5: thought he played really well.
42:15
Speaker 3: He's got a live arm man. Just going back through that,
42:17
Speaker 3: he has got a really he actually does. I know
42:20
Speaker 3: it's not just Oklahoma thing, but the ball comes out
42:22
Speaker 3: similar to Baker like, ball jumps out of his hand
42:24
Speaker 3: when he's driving the ball outside the numbers. Not a big,
42:26
Speaker 3: big guy, but he's got a loose, live arm book.
42:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look it.
42:33
Speaker 1: It's something to watch these two teams right, because you're
42:38
Speaker 1: thinking the Giants are about to get it going.
42:40
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark comes in the first drive that he had
42:42
Speaker 2: looked terrific, and then just man, just the turnovers.
42:46
Speaker 1: Like I think they had five drives in a row
42:49
Speaker 1: that just were just debacles, and you just can't have
42:52
Speaker 1: those kinds of things when you're a team that can't
42:55
Speaker 1: overwhelm people. And I just look at the Giants and
42:58
Speaker 1: I just think, like, like, I like the fun stuff
43:01
Speaker 1: that they're doing. I like how they're trying to maximize it.
43:03
Speaker 1: But he has to value the ball. And then sometimes
43:05
Speaker 1: Dave Ball has to kind of help him by calling
43:08
Speaker 1: things that don't put him in a situation where he
43:10
Speaker 1: is exposed where he can't turn the ball over.
43:13
Speaker 3: Now, no Molik Neighbors sucks man. You're hoping to really
43:15
Speaker 3: get a chance to watch this young quarterback grow and develop,
43:18
Speaker 3: and you lose your big time weapons.
43:19
Speaker 1: So can I say this break Baldy, did you see
43:23
Speaker 1: camp scattered boot.
43:25
Speaker 2: On the block him?
43:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I know the lost but holy smoked in
43:31
Speaker 1: terms of just like a stature like just man up
43:36
Speaker 1: under and just.
43:37
Speaker 5: Hells people watch people. Man, he comes, he gets all
43:41
Speaker 5: up in the grill.
43:42
Speaker 4: It looks like MMA stuff in the octagon, man, like
43:45
Speaker 4: the way that he takes people down.
43:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it.
43:48
Speaker 3: He did it on the draw last week, so he's
43:51
Speaker 3: he's done it a couple of weeks in a row here,
43:52
Speaker 3: but yeah, he Congrats to Kellen Moore. He's a great dude.
43:56
Speaker 3: He is a very good coach. And I just didn't
43:57
Speaker 3: think they'd have enough players to be competitive, and they've
43:59
Speaker 3: been competitive, as you mentioned that. Uh, and they got
44:02
Speaker 3: themselves a win here, so congrats to them. Also, love
44:05
Speaker 3: kind of doing a lot more RPO stuff with with
44:07
Speaker 3: Rattler two. He's very comfortable with all that. So hey,
44:10
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel real quick had a good Uh. I know
44:12
Speaker 3: they didn't win the game, but he was good. He
44:14
Speaker 3: was efficient. I think, hey, that's there's nothing I saw there.
44:18
Speaker 3: They would say, I'm looking anywhere else. I'm gonna roll
44:19
Speaker 3: at him until until.
44:21
Speaker 4: You look at that. You look at the first touchdown
44:24
Speaker 4: to Fanning. There's Fanning, you know, there's Quinn, Shawn Jenkins,
44:27
Speaker 4: there's Dylan. I mean, they got the rookies all out there.
44:30
Speaker 2: Yep.
44:31
Speaker 4: You know Dylan Samson's playing leads the team and tackles
44:35
Speaker 4: every week. Uh, Mason Graham's been really good. I mean, look,
44:39
Speaker 4: they're they're a rebuild mode. But I thought he got
44:41
Speaker 4: rid of the ball quickly, accurately. You know, he had
44:44
Speaker 4: him in contention right to the very end.
44:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, no good stuff there from Dylan Gabriel. Almost see
44:49
Speaker 3: how the rest of those rookies played the rest of
44:51
Speaker 3: the year. Again, they've got they'll be watching the Jags
44:53
Speaker 3: game tonight, Buck Cleveland intently paying attention to your bag,
44:57
Speaker 3: of course, with their chiefs, with their chiefs hats on.
45:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, like hopefully the Jacks don't give
45:03
Speaker 1: them anything to be excited about.
45:05
Speaker 3: They got a couple of picks here in the first
45:06
Speaker 3: round next year, so it could be exciting days to
45:08
Speaker 3: head here for Cleveland. Baldi, appreciate your time on Mondays.
45:11
Speaker 3: Everybody loves these things, man, they're great. Appreciate everybody listening.
45:15
Speaker 3: We'll see you next time right here on.
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Speaker 2: Move the sticks.