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Creating A Sacred Healing Space Interview with Philippa Storie · Terri Messenger's Genius Zone

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Hey hey hey and welcome to this week's edition of Terry messages
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Judy has sown. And we do we have something
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exciting lined up for you. So you may have heard of the
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pendulum swinging and you may have even heard of magic
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mushrooms plant medicine and all the things.
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Well, if you've ever had any kind of skeptical ideas about,
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all those things you're about to hear something that is going to
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blow your light. In fact, this is not about magic
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mushrooms. This is not about Hokey Pokey
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pendulum swinging. This is about an incredible
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woman who is a global intuitive? He'll up.
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Now, this lady, she has got extensive training in the hidden
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mind protocol and bio energy healing, but she has got a
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lifelong gift of where she has been able to always tap in and
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tune in to the chakras. And help people to really
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understand some of their blocks, some of their ancestral.
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Wounds and she even talks about them which words or sounds a
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little bit. Whoo.
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Whoo. But let me tell you, when you
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listen to this lady, I know that as we went live, there were
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people that were so grateful for what she explains from her.
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Most beautiful intuition through understanding exactly what you
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require and Having one-on-one consultations with her right
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through to the most exciting Retreat where you go through the
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biggest mind, expansive, healing of your life.
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So sit back and relax, get your favorite drink and, you know,
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agree. All of your sufferings, your
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emotional baggage, because this lady is going to talk about how
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to ground yourself, how to tap in and follow your own
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intuition. So let's do this.
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I'm so excited. Let's bring on the beautiful,
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Philip A Story come on down, so it's so great to be here with
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you feel apart. Tell us what city, you live in.
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Hi Terry. Yes, I am from Cape Town, South
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Africa, the mother City beautiful, such a nice place in
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my my son-in-law is actually from South Africa and I just
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love people from there, they're just such a beautiful creatures.
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And look, Philip are, you know, obviously you are a very gifted
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soul. Being a global intuitive and
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obviously, you know, some of your Specialties are, you know,
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with your Insight pendulum reading card reading and you
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know, along these lines. But you also do a lot of plant
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Retreats, which I'm really Keen to go into and find out because
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I know you include mushrooms in your Your plant Retreats and I'm
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really, really interested to go into depth about that and what
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happens in a person's mind. But you know, what led you to
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recognizing that you wanted to actually embrace your gifts as a
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career? It's kind of always been in the
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background, no matter what I've done, where I've gone, where
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I've worked. I've, there's always been this
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part of me. That knows, I'm here to serve.
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I'm here to help others. So I, for many years, I did look
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for different modalities that I would resonate with and the
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hidden mind sound corrective protocol and bioenergy therapy
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and found me. So once I I heard this lady
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chatting about these modalities and how they help, you know,
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people on the Spectrum ones, that struggle with dyslexia and,
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you know, my most of my family's struggle with ADD ADHD or
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dyslexia. So I was like this is this is
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the one I'm going to study this in a reserve about 34 years
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because I studied both of the modalities consecutively.
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Lee, which was quite intense because people don't hear that
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when you actually study the modality.
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You go through that healing yourself.
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It's a lot more concentrated than just having a session every
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once in awhile you in it. Absolutely all look.
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Absolutely. So in actual set so you come
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from the family background of Dyslexia and ADHD, welcome the
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world of neurodivergent people, you know?
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Never be like you don't underestimate because these
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people quite often can run rings around.
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You know the person who is not neurodivergent when it comes to
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their intellect, their intelligence and all those
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things. So that's interesting that I've
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never heard you actually told not to say that you don't but I
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haven't heard you myself talking about, you know, helping people.
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With this kind of situation because there is so much out
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there and for that fact, when I learnt that you did do the
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hidden mind product whole and bioenergy healing.
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I didn't know there was an attachment so can you talk me
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through how that kind of a modality helps people that
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obviously do have those, you know, issues with learning and
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processing like with Alexia and ADHD?
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Yes, of course. So, pretty much what happens is.
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It's got to do with the hemispheres of the brain being
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connected and a lot of us through birth trauma through
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little accidents. That we have bumping our head,
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falling off a bicycle, things like that.
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I'll hemispheres of the brain aren't connected, so they don't
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talk to one another. And That's is the struggle with
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dyslexia in particular, because if you reading something into
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your right eye, it's going into the left, hemisphere of your
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brain and vice versa. And if they are not talking, you
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can't see the full word. So your brain literally only
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gives you half of the word. And this is why you struggle to
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read. So, through the hidden mind, we
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connect the hemispheres of the brain so that you and and
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correct. Any What we cook Corrections.
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You need to correct these little things in the corpus callosum
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and the different parts of the brain.
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But you can also filter throughout the whole body like
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looking into vertebrates or they're all talking to one.
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Another is, the spinal cord is everything working, functioning
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correctly, all the electrical fields of the body working
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correctly. So we just correct the
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imbalances in the body. And then the body heals itself,
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it's a suitable tool, it's beautiful.
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Oh well, Why did not know that? So do you think in your opinion?
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Because I kind of, as I said, I'm surrounded by this, this
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kind of a situation and I myself, definitely have always
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been that person that struggled in school and mine was more in
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pole, Civ behavior and also lack of comprehending things.
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And yet my intelligence was, you know, really Ali was all there
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but because you're not listening properly or you're not paying
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attention or you're a Daydreamer and then you you get so much
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flak from that. I think one of the biggest
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issues that we see is that quite often when someone's gone to
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school and back in my days, I mean athd just was not a thing.
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You know, like what it is. Now so you found yourself having
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a lot of Of self-esteem issues. And I find that people that you
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know do suffer from this have so much self-worth problems and
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like I was saying to my own daughter who also suffers it.
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I said the reason that you felt dumb at some points in school is
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because you're smart, you're not actually done.
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Because if you were actually dumb, you wouldn't know you were
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you wouldn't know any But you're aware and I know why I was aware
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that I felt like I had to learn differently but I'd like to ask
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you the question. Do you think this is a DNA issue
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that people are born with because I did hear you talk
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about, you know, a fall. Like if you fall off your bike
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or you, you know, obviously that disruption.
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What do you believe? Do you believe it's born into
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people? Or do you feel like it It does
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come about as a result. So both because a lot of us are
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walking around with what is known as perpetuating Gene
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faults. And this is passed down through
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our bloodline. So many of us are walking around
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with struggles. That actually aren't ours.
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It's just in our DNA and when we correct it and we go back in the
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bloodline to our grandparent that add rooted worth, we
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actually Acted on an energetic level for the entire bloodline.
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So it changes everything and a chat and it also goes forward to
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our children. So if we heal it within our self
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in our children won't struggle with it because you can only do
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what you can only work with something that you know, is
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this, if you don't know, it's there, then you can't work with
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it. So our grandparents and our
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ancestors didn't know that they had, these perpetuating Gene
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faults or disorders. Or you know, trapped emotions
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from, you know, a great grandmother that was persecuted
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for being a witch for instance, you know that filters down, you
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have that persecution at which wound in your in your field and
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it's not yours. Yes.
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Yes. I love that because I mean,
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let's face it, the work both you and I do goes back and sestra
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lie like, you know, I often say that.
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I go beyond seven, a lot of people say seven generations but
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I believe that we have to heal and clear even beyond that.
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So when you are actually you know practicing these protocols
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and modalities, do you find that does it heal people of that?
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Or can you tell me about some of what the outcomes that happen
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when you're working with people through this?
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So, I'll give you a little, like, a case study.
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I was working with a beautiful, she's an online coach as well,
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and a very good friend of mine and I was working with her.
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You asked me to work with her son, because he was struggling
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at school, he was only getting around to out of 10 for his
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tests, and it was really causing, you know, it was
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knocking his low self-esteem, because he was a very bright
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boy, very sporty, and It was really, she says, there was lots
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of slamming doors and tears. And they came to me on Thursday
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and, and we did a correction on him and that we went just threw
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some bioenergy and then a bit of this hidden mind, stand
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corrected protocol and then on Friday, he wrote a test at
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school because that was I think that was used to write on a
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Monday and on a Friday and on the Monday when she went to
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school to drop her son, You said what what changed?
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And she said, what do you mean? And she said, well, he got 9 out
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of 10. So what chain?
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So she says, well, all that all that happened was, he had the
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session and when I had the next session with him, he said to me
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and keep up, you know, I can actually get 10 out of 10, but I
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don't want to make the other children, feel, you know, that
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I'm better than them. And I just said to my boy, you
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get 10 out of 10 because you inspire the ones around, you,
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too, also. So achieve greatness and he just
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so yeah, since then has been acing school.
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That is incredible. So was this quite some time ago,
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like have the statistics come through and being quite good
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ever since? Yes.
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Yes. So this was around.
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I would say, two and a half years ago and yeah, it's been
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it's been great ever since soyou my even to the point of this
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beautiful coach. I decided to study level 1 by
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energy, so that she can work with her family at home.
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Absolutely, absolutely. Wow, this is this is absolute
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Earth breaking stuff. This is absolutely mind-blowing
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because how many people out there are struggling, you know,
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for some people, you know, people, some people feel like it
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ruins their life, you know, you should not be able to to study
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properly. It prevents them from going to
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University. I know I dropped out of school.
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Really, really young. And I know.
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I know that if I had a had the awareness, the help the support
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way back, then, I mean, it would have made a difference but you
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know what, what I did do and I noticed the one thing that did
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work with me is because I don't know, there seems to be a an
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element of 1 or 1. So I had a tutor and soon as I
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had that shooter my grades just suddenly went right up but you
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know how You people can unlock this.
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So can you talk me through, like, what?
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That modality kind of looks like, because obviously I know
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when I'm practicing. Hypnosis, for example, I had a,
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I don't specialize in children. I've, in fact, I really didn't
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want to work with children. I love them to bits, but it
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wasn't my specialty. You know, I always worked with
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adults, but I had a woman literally say to me one day,
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please. I need you to see my son.
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Son, you've helped me so much if you can help me, you can help
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him. So, after a long while she
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convinced me and he had such a low self-esteem, he was at
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school, and he'd been put into a special class, he was really
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battling. And when he came to me, he, I
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think the worst thing about it was, what was all his friends
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thinking, how it Talk such a huge blow on his self-esteem and
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what that actually meant for him.
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And he just said, I just feel dumb and you know, he couldn't
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get through his assignments or his projects and he was he was
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in the higher grade of primary school.
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Anyways, I said to him and this is the kind of difference I
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suppose with NLP and hypnosis and the way that that works.
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I said to him. So what actually do you do that?
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You're very good at where you do, put your concentration and
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he said to me, oh, nothing. He claimed.
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Nothing worked. He wasn't good at anything.
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He was Dumb and all the rest of it.
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I said, no, come on. There must be something.
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I mean it could be sport, it could be anything.
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I don't care. Yeah.
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What do you enjoy? Exactly right.
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So he says well I game I'm a really good game up and you know
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what? I honed into it.
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I Reminder, the trends we went into his and I suppose this is
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I'm giving you an example, so you can talk to us through your
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kind of modality. So during the trans, the trans
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is just to relax his mind and allow him to open up and let the
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subconscious do the work. And then we channeled the all
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the elements, his strengths that he does through gaming.
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His alertness is focus the way he feels the state that he gets
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in. And we moved it into his studies
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and he literally had overnight success.
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But I mean that's kind of done through the work that I do with
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the hypnosis, the NLP and we do some modalities.
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Can you tell me how you actually go about?
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What what's involved in the protocol?
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You know with the bio energy healing and the hidden mind?
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What does that look like in a session?
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So the bioenergy and the also one of the points of my energy
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is to get your life force energy or Chi to move because what
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happens is when your energy becomes stuck at become stagnant
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and it becomes sick, you know you wouldn't drink water from
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Dirty puddle but you would definitely put your mouth to a
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beautiful fresh water running down the mountain.
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So that's the same with our energy and A lot of people don't
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understand that so that's why movement is so important.
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So with bio energy, it is a series of hand movements that we
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get. We get your Chi flowing and
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shifting and moving, so that it flows better.
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So that your body actually heals itself with the hidden mind,
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it's slightly different. Because with that, we use the
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beautiful sacred tool the pendulum, which is why I
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developed a course to actually teach Each people how to use a
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pendulum because it's just so amazing and it's been around
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forever. But we deduce with the pendulum,
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we also use crystals intention and sent, so to stimulate all
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all of your senses and then we correct.
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Whatever needs to be corrected with sacred sounds.
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And these are gifted To Us, by the person that wrote, The
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Hidden mind found corrective protocol, and how that actually
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came about. There's a Bit of a backstory was
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there was a man from Australia. His name was Cameron Dawson and
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he was Ill his entire life, but he had a lot of money and he was
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always looking for ways to help himself heal and after going
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through a lot of the medical Roots, he decided to actually
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start visiting Shaman's around the world and Gathering data as
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to why they ancient rituals and ceremonies He's actually
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correct. You know, people side effects of
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what's going on and he paired up with Tom Griffin who is from
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Island and shared the data with him.
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And that's how they had in mind actually came to be was through
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collecting of data of ancient rituals that help too.
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Because for instance if in a in a tribe if a woman has a child,
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there is a process leading up. Up to the birth once she has the
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child, there is a bit of a ceremony that happens.
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The clearing of the trauma, the clearing of all the ancestral
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problems so that this child can have the best possible outcome
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but in Western Society, we don't do that.
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You know? A lot of women go through
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cesareans, they just go in the baby gets taken out.
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There's not the isn't the natural way that's been followed
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and then you know, the hemispheres of the brain.
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A non connected because they didn't come through the birth
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canal, which automatically massages, the skull and and gets
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all the synapses firing to get the brain working correctly.
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So there's lots of these things that we do to save lives but at
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the same time it also does create problems later on so well
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that's amazing that is that's really interesting.
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I mean I had to have three cesareans and Yeah, like, I know
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my husband being a chiropractor. He always says that the birth
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canal fires up the brain and gets everything working because
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it was the way that mother nature intended, of course,
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isn't it? So, yeah, that makes a lot of
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sense. So, you know, when speaking of
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the pendulum because obviously that's part of your ritual and I
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remember being a teenage girl and, you know, just for fun, you
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know. My best friend.
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Would hover this like necklace and tell us how many children
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will going to have and I thought, oh my gosh, this is got
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to be a load of, you know, rubbish really, I mean, but we
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did it for fun. But you know, perhaps you can
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kind of talk me through how a pendulum can swing to the way of
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giving you so much Insight. It's such a beautiful question.
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So Our magnetic beings everything in life.
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Either pulls us towards us towards it or repels us.
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It's true. If you are in tune, then you can
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actually feel that magnetic pull.
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I mean if you need to a lover you there's just this pool
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towards their person or a best friend.
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You just pulled towards that person.
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That is on an energetic level and it is the same with
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absolutely everything. You are able to also do suede.
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Do the sway test, which is a body test.
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Do you stand with your feet, hip width apart and you just make
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your knees soft and you're tuned into your body.
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You can ask questions and your body will lean forward if it is
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for you and it will lean backwards if it is not for you.
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So you could, for instance say my name is in and your body will
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move backwards, but if you're but if you are, if you say I'm
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Terry, your body will move forward.
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So the pendulum Works the same way, it's just an extension of
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your arm and so you would be working with your pendulum.
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Like for instance, if I'm in the supermarket, I can ask are these
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bananas going to be good for me and it will say yes or no.
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So yes, that's that's the reason I use the pendulum.
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That's incredible because actually, I was thinking to
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myself, I'm not sure how How she's going to convince me about
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this pendulum thing, but when you just discussed about how you
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stand and then you can ask a question, like what is your name
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and then you sway forward or back?
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Well, that boom. That got me.
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I'll tell you why, because you would have heard of Kinesiology,
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right? Yes.
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And I actually one of my studies was psych Kinesiology it's not a
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specialty, I never. Lee you know where the into it
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in a huge way but dr. Ian my husband is an absolute,
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he's a natural on Kinesiology and he can pick up through
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muscle testing. So boom, you got me on that one
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girl. So how does the pendulum assist
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you to guide your clients? So firstly, I and one of the
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basis of the Hidden mind And Tom Griffin are created at he he's a
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kinesiologist as well, so a lot of, a lot of the Kinesiology is
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in in the hidden mind, sound correct of protocol.
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It's really beautiful. And so working with the pendulum
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I connect in with the other person's energy.
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So when add, whether I'm doing in person, healing, with I'm
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doing distance healing. It's quite simple, we are Just
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Energy, so it time and space doesn't matter.
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So I connect in The patient's energy making sure that first of
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all, you know, ice permission to work with you and the Pendulum
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will say yes or no. And then I also asked all the
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subconscious, will the subconscious have lost the word,
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give them permission sabotage, that's that's the word is, will
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the subconscious sabotage because sometimes You know, the
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belief that is in our subconscious and unconscious
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mind on aligned. So generally when a no comes up
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for that then I ask my client to drink some water and I drink
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some water or so to just ground again.
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And then we ask the question again, a lot of the times it's
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just because you're dehydrated and other times, there is
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something there that needs to be cleared before.
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It will just allow you to work with them.
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And what? Yeah, so once you choose and
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into that energy, then you can start asking the questions.
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You can start asking other chakras, aligned are they
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already feels working correctly. All the meridians in their body
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working correctly. And if they are, if it's out of
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alignment, we corrected through the sacred.
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Sounds at the end of the session, I love that.
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So, I was just about to ask you that, actually, so dr.
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Ian has uses a a book and he uses the Kinesiology and it
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actually shows where the trauma is in the body and whether what
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age it came from and it'll pick up like, you know, whether it
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was a molestation or a violation of some sort or whether it was
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an abandonment or whatever it was it'll come up and it's
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incredible how apt it is and you're not having to rely on
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yourself either and and All mind, you're actually kind of
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completely relying on the person's body.
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So I was going to say to you, what do you do?
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Like, you know, if you were to say to a listener now if they
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were out of balance and and and they were feeling really
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off-kilter, what are some of the recommendations you would say
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for a person to bring them self into a balance?
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Is there anything that's are like a A DIY that you could
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share with our listeners, most definitely to ground yourself.
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So many of us are not grounded, we really aren't and we actually
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don't realize how important grounding is and how important
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our breath is. You know, a lot of us, hold our
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breath. When we in a situation we
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actually hold our breath. We stopping our life force
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energy from entering our body. And, and just being a Sad.
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So many of us, we just wear shoes all the time and then we
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climb into a bid. Our feet aren't actually
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touching the ground. And that is the importance of
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grounding. Because we so stuck, in our
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heads, and not enough of us are living from our heart space.
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We are all just so busy overthinking, and when you are
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in that mode, you your nervous system is in overdrive and you
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In the fight and flight. So you actually cannot think
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properly because all your blood runs to your limbs.
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It's not in your brain where you need it.
29:32
So you'll find that if you are in a very difficult situation,
29:36
stop and breathe the moment you breathe, and you ground
29:40
yourself. All of a sudden that the answers
29:42
just start coming to you and you can actually think clearly, but
29:46
too many of us, get into that panic mode and then, you know,
29:50
you can't seem to make sense of anything.
29:53
Can't find a solution. Mission.
29:54
Everything's just a problem and a problem.
29:57
So really amazing. Sacred tools, your breath.
30:01
Grounding, those are two absolutely free things that you
30:04
can do for yourself. At any time, we are also 90
30:08
percent water. So fill your body with as much
30:11
water as possible because it helps our bodies work correctly
30:16
and also helps us to think clearly, but it also helps us to
30:20
receive messages correctly. You know, if you are drinking In
30:24
water. You can actually put intentions
30:27
into the water and then drink that water and it will go into
30:31
your body and it will change the cells and everything in your
30:35
body to meet that frequency which is my just love that.
30:41
Yeah, I certain why actually they actually did a scientific
30:45
test on this. I'm not sure if you heard about
30:48
it and they had people who gave love into the water and they
30:54
Vaccinations of the water. And they they set the intention
30:58
of, you know, all of this beautiful piece and
31:02
unconditional love and light to go in.
31:05
And then they got another group of people to do the opposite.
31:08
To be just feeling the way they were angry resentful bitter, and
31:14
they how the their water and they froze it and under
31:19
microscopic telescope, it actually came Up as a completely
31:25
different, all the molecules, all the water was a different
31:29
color and that, you know, under that microscopic.
31:33
So it just goes to show so I love that.
31:36
So grounding breathwork, I mean sometimes just, I think we need
31:41
to hear these things. We need on a day to day basis,
31:44
just to go. You know what?
31:46
Today I'm going to take my shoes off.
31:48
I'm going to walk over to the park or we're somewhere where
31:52
it's green and I'm just And I feel that grass underneath my
31:57
feet. I mean, just something simple
31:59
like this, you know, is so helpful.
32:02
So obviously like you've got to give to a saying in our
32:05
conversations before that you've got this.
32:09
I know this gift. I've actually got a very similar
32:12
one myself but it's where, you know, people come up to you and
32:17
they'll just tell you things that they've not talked about to
32:21
anyone before like you've got this.
32:24
Magnetic Aura to attract people, to just drawing the information
32:30
and talking. Now obviously, again, that is an
32:33
energetic component and their energetic Aura.
32:37
Obviously sees your aura and says, this is the person you
32:42
need to speak to so they can help you.
32:46
What kind of issues do you find? Like your typical client what,
32:52
you know, when you get underneath it.
32:54
You do the pendulum, you do all of the, you know, different
32:58
works that you're doing what's in what's usually going on for
33:01
them. At the end of the day, we all
33:05
struggle with trauma. None of us, get out of this
33:09
life, unscathed. We all and it's all different
33:12
levels, you know? Some people go through, really
33:15
crazy, crazy unspeakable, things, and others.
33:19
Go through grief and heartache, and these doesn't matter what
33:24
What level it is we all absorb the trauma in different ways a
33:30
lot of us are from post-war parents and grandparents and
33:38
they just had to get on with things so that is actually the
33:41
sickness of our society. Currently is just shove it under
33:44
the carpet get on with it, move on and people are bursting at
33:48
the seams because they are holding onto so much.
33:52
So the usual things That people will come and, you know, just
33:56
offload, is something's happening with a lover or they
34:00
feel that they are bad parent or, you know, it's just, they
34:04
just share these things and half the time they say to me, I don't
34:08
know why I'm telling you this. We standing in a line at a
34:11
supermarket and I just, you know, it's they just sometimes I
34:16
don't know why they're telling me this either, but I'm gay and
34:19
I'm listening, it's just so crazy.
34:23
Like, The aligned at the shopping center, but, you know,
34:27
I think to a lot of people don't always know what's going on.
34:31
Like, if they come to you symptomatically and they're, you
34:34
know, they're not getting on with their lover or there, they
34:37
feeling guilty about, you know, raising their kids or, you know,
34:41
they're having those, you know, obviously things.
34:45
I'm sure they could talk to you until the cows come home.
34:48
So to speak about all the problems.
34:51
But I guess what I'm hearing. What you're saying.
34:54
Philip Rivers. It's not really what's going on
34:56
up here at the surface. But it's what's going on
35:00
underneath where the deep-rooted issues are coming from.
35:06
So is that what you're usually doing?
35:08
So do you usually usual eyes the pendulum first and then go
35:13
through the process of going through the clearing or what
35:16
does that, you know what does that usually entail if I always
35:19
say to come and see you and let's just say I wanted to clear
35:23
out Some, you know, some sabotaging because we've all got
35:27
a set up and touching pattern of some sort.
35:29
I mean we wouldn't be human otherwise where would you start
35:33
with someone like me? So I like to start having a
35:39
Clarity call so that you know exactly what we're going to be
35:44
working with because a lot of people come into these things
35:48
and they don't know what it is or so I like to have a clarity
35:52
called with them first so they May I connect with the with
35:57
their energy, I find out, you know, what is of importance for
36:02
us to work with? First of all, am I going to be
36:04
using the hidden mind modality? And we're going to be using the
36:07
bioenergy I'll be going to be releasing some trapped emotions
36:10
or hard Waltz through the emotional, the body code.
36:13
So, I connect with that first, so then I would be able to say,
36:17
listen, this is how many sessions you will benefit from
36:22
and what we will be doing over those sessions.
36:24
But not limited to because as we release something, sometimes
36:28
other things now start to surface because you've your body
36:31
feels safe to do so. So then basically each session
36:36
is bespoke, we connect into the energy.
36:39
What are we doing today? What needs to happen today?
36:43
And we work on that. And then after the session, I
36:45
asked you, how many days do we need between now and your next
36:49
session for your body to actually process?
36:52
Because some of us process, Things are like faster than
36:55
others. Some of us can release things a
36:57
lot faster than others. You know some people can only I
37:02
can only release one or two things in a session and others
37:05
you can release five or seven things on a session.
37:07
So it's just depends on the individual and just working
37:12
janky with their energy to, to have the best outcome.
37:16
Well, that's exciting. True.
37:18
Because if someone's really suffering, you know what it's
37:22
like when people are stuck. When they're suffering
37:25
depression or they're just not able to get out of that, you
37:29
know, it that that funk that they're in and it's been going
37:33
on and on and on for so long. And then suddenly, they get
37:36
someone like yourself Philippa that can really chewed in and
37:42
you're not having to do all the thinking you're allowing the
37:46
energy to, you know, guide and not only that, but also their
37:52
body and what You're picking up with them, is really telling
37:57
you, so by kind of mapping out for them.
37:59
Well, this is what it's going to look like.
38:02
And I guess like on the first session that you would have with
38:05
them because it would be quite exciting.
38:08
I imagine like when a person I know what it's like, actually
38:12
when a person is actually releasing so much junk, it feels
38:19
so good. And you know I often find that
38:23
if The worst ever felt the better, they think they feel but
38:28
in actual fact it's not that they're feeling euphoric, it's
38:31
just that they have shifted from such a very, very poor, you
38:36
know, poor level. So let's talk a little bit now
38:41
about, you know how your clients also kind of trigger memories of
38:48
your own life and how things come up of Of her life through
38:56
you. Now, can you talk me through
38:58
that? Yes, so part of what happens
39:03
when I'm working with someone is memories will pop into my mind.
39:09
And, and in the beginning, I thought it was crazy.
39:13
And then one day out of, I just had this message, like, share,
39:17
share this experience and when I shared it, I because I thought,
39:21
what does this have to do with anything?
39:24
When I shared the experience, all of a sudden my client was
39:27
like no, this resonate I can totally understand.
39:32
And so I realized that sometimes I will have memory surface and
39:37
just buy because we all connected.
39:39
So just by sharing that they can resonate with maybe their
39:43
situation or something that's happened to them and it can pull
39:47
more information up to the surface something that they
39:49
might have forgotten about, or, you know, have Shoved underneath
39:54
the carpet pushed into the closet, you know?
39:57
And now you share that and all of a sudden, they feel safe
39:59
enough. And my main, my main purpose is
40:04
to hold space, hold space, so that people are able to heal,
40:10
because so many don't feel safe enough to heal.
40:13
They don't know how to, they don't know what to do, they
40:16
don't know. What is there to heal some of
40:18
them know about the big traumas but they don't know about, you
40:21
know, we had all different Just we take things in a different
40:27
way you know if I had to come and take your PIN from you, this
40:30
would not break your heart compared to.
40:33
If you were a little girl and I took your Barbie doll from you
40:36
on the playpen it's like you know that for you is the end of
40:40
the world. Yeah.
40:42
You experience these traumas in different ways at different ages
40:46
and that's how we correct it for.
40:51
Yeah that's that's that's incredible.
40:54
And I mean, I just love, I love hearing this because I know how
41:00
many people suffer in this world and how many people do need that
41:06
healing and as you know yourself just you know as peers I
41:11
encourage all the people that come into my community to
41:17
actually listen to their own self and be guided by your own.
41:24
Background of where you've come from, what you've suffered and
41:29
you know, as you know, as you learn how to intuitive Lee speak
41:33
from your own point of view, how powerful that is and and how
41:40
that person that's going to listen, because obviously most
41:44
of the people that I connect with anyway, I coaches healers
41:48
leaders and their into the energy work.
41:51
So it's almost like They you know people are going.
41:56
How did you know that like are you a psychic?
41:59
Have you been looking through my window but you know and then of
42:03
course knowing the dreams like knowing what they really, really
42:07
aspire to. So obviously now as we talked
42:11
about the pendulum because you do have a great love of the
42:14
pendulum and you will even teach on it, right?
42:18
So what are you actually, you know, recommending that your
42:23
clients? Use the pendulum for.
42:27
So my biggest pool towards the pendulum was for so long.
42:31
You know, you have these messages comes through, you have
42:35
your intuition, and can you trust it?
42:39
You know, we create these stories around our lives to make
42:43
things, okay? We create these stories and
42:45
these limiting beliefs, you know, things always happen in
42:49
threes and it doesn't matter if my day starts with Well, it's
42:54
always going to end badly. That's how I know you know
42:57
there's these things that we tell ourselves and the Pendulum
43:01
gives you a definitive yes or no, in the moment for your
43:05
highest and greatest good, but we can change our minds.
43:08
We have three walls so we can change our minds.
43:10
So that's how the outcomes will change.
43:14
You can decide to turn, right? And still growing lift and
43:17
things change. So, with the pendulum, you can
43:23
really tune in and this is a this is also you need to trust
43:27
it you know you ask it the question or make the statement
43:32
and it will give you the answer But they entrusted to a lot of
43:37
people would then be like, is that really the answer?
43:39
I don't want that on to. Let me try again and then the
43:42
pendulum will start to play around with you then then it
43:45
just goes into. How do you you do you train and
43:50
what do you encourage them to do?
43:52
I know with Ian, it's a about gray, King State, you know, or
43:57
going and having a glass of water or coming back to it
44:00
another time. But what do you usually say to
44:03
people if they Start playing with it and then they don't get
44:06
the answer they want. So they start trying to
44:09
manipulate it. How do you get away from the
44:11
whole manipulation? So, so when you do my pendulum
44:17
corset, it happens over three parts part.
44:19
One, I teach you how to connect your pendulum and we do that
44:23
through a beautiful guided meditation because not, it's not
44:28
every pendulum is for you. You also need to find the one
44:32
that wants to work with you and that you resonate with.
44:35
And I know this when I chose my first pendulum that I decided to
44:39
work with a wooden pendulum because it doesn't absorb your
44:42
clients energy. So I wouldn't have to clean it
44:45
after each session which you have to do with the crystal
44:48
pendulum and they were beautiful ones and I wanted this one and I
44:53
wanted that one and they were like no and the most basic
44:56
wooden pendulum was like this. And this is the one and I
45:03
trusted it and I've had that pendulum for many years.
45:07
My son recently lasted somewhere but I once again thought you
45:13
know I suppose it's time for a new one so I'm on the hand.
45:16
Yes you know it's time to upgrade.
45:20
Well you know I can see how it'll Wishin and openness and
45:26
Clarity just plays such a huge role.
45:30
I roll, and I can see how you doing, so much energy clearing
45:35
with your clients. And, you know, also being able
45:40
to give people the tools, like how to, you know, really, you
45:45
know, give them the resources to look at the pendulum and, you
45:50
know, I really want to get to the the Retreats because I know
45:54
that, you know, everything you do is probably I imagine is
46:00
Completely like maximized inside a retreat.
46:05
I can just imagine you wouldn't hold back on anything.
46:09
It would be the whole magic formula from you know, card
46:14
reading to pendulum swinging to you know obviously the the bio
46:19
healing and all those beautiful things and I believe you're
46:24
Retreats are extremely popular. True people love coming picture.
46:30
You use mushrooms. So can you tell me about that?
46:33
Like what made you? Because I know a lot of the
46:36
shamanic healers, do do this. And I've always thought, well,
46:41
you know, from a, you know, from my own point of view is that, is
46:44
that okay? I wonder if it is okay.
46:47
And there's, there's that little kind of part of me because I see
46:50
the greatest people doing it and, and how it opens their
46:54
mind, and, and all this. But can you tell me about the
46:57
mushroom? How you got on to it?
46:59
Your own Personal experience and what the feeling and the
47:04
advantage of it. It's yes, of course.
47:08
So I'm a I'm an energy medicine and plant medicine motivator, I
47:13
believe that we can heal has solds when we are given the
47:17
right tools that resonate with us because it don't not
47:19
everything resonates with us. And each of us need to find what
47:24
works for us when it comes to a beautiful, Soma retreats.
47:30
It's the mushroom itself is a very sacred teacher, it is the
47:36
actual Communication Center of the planet.
47:42
If you think of nowadays, we've got fiber so that we can stay
47:46
connected mushrooms and they underground.
47:50
Network are actually the communication of the of the
47:56
entire planet. Everything is connected.
47:59
The mushroom. Itself is just the flower of the
48:02
actual, you know, the mass of nervous system, should I say
48:07
underneath the ground of what mushrooms actually are.
48:11
That's that's that's the energy. That's the power of the plant.
48:15
So when you, when you take psilocybin, what will happen is
48:21
this beautiful teacher plant will connect you to the universe
48:26
like nothing else. Can you actually feel That you
48:31
are part of the universe. You will know everything.
48:35
Well, that is what is it like being like United in that
48:41
Oneness and that multi-dimensional?
48:45
So it connects connects with everything.
48:49
Yes, with Source, it's people that have come to my Retreats of
48:53
worked out the entire business. Plan of the entire client, Leo,
49:01
I've had people that have gone through past life, regression
49:05
and healed womb, trauma, that was keeping them from having
49:09
children. We've had, you know, people deal
49:14
with severe severe trauma issues and things that they might not
49:20
know or have hidden from. That is in their past that is
49:25
kept them from feeling, you know, really connected and To
49:30
love a partner or able to love themselves.
49:34
I've had clients that have lost 30 kg after a retreat because
49:40
they just all of a sudden understand what self-love means
49:44
and you know, taking care of their body and what you know, so
49:50
many of us we struggle with we really struggle with this.
49:56
Just really get you Connected To Source.
50:00
It's at the end of the day, if you know, you can't unknow these
50:04
things now. And so that's why it is scary
50:07
for some but it's uses various genes.
50:10
So it is a very gentle beautiful process.
50:14
What is scary is there are a lot of people out there.
50:17
Nowadays, holding these mushrooms ceremonies that aren't
50:22
trained Shaman's. So they do not actually know how
50:26
to energetically clear the space before.
50:30
The ceremony and how to hold the space for all the guests in the
50:34
ceremony and to transmute any and all negative and nefarious
50:39
energy that does come out of of the people that are in the
50:44
ceremony and transmute that, you know, and clear the energy
50:48
again. So that you are in a safe
50:50
environment. Your environment is the most
50:54
important thing. You know, if people do it in a
50:57
recreational setting, you've got people around you that you don't
51:00
know that are talking to you saying, things, music, whatever.
51:04
It's all these things that can trigger you, but when you are in
51:07
a sacred ceremony, with a Shaymin, that is trained for
51:11
many years in holding space, you are safe.
51:17
It is a journey within it is not there for you to really like
51:22
hang out with people and it's not a social thing.
51:25
This is always tell my clients. Ask the medicine for the on Says
51:30
that you're looking for and it will give it to you but you need
51:34
to be clear. So that is why a retreat.
51:38
It happens over a weekend on the Friday, we all come together.
51:42
We do an opening ceremony where we now, hold the space for
51:47
everyone over the weekend. We have a lovely meal together
51:50
just to get to know one another because it is a very personal
51:55
Journey, but yet for the people that come ticket together for
51:58
the journey, it's full. Or a reason your energies are
52:02
coming together for a reason and then yeah and then the Saturday
52:09
morning we normally get up, we'll take a nice.
52:12
Walk will do some Qigong, get the body moving.
52:14
Get you grounded have a very like meal because then you fast
52:18
the rest of the day and we we will take you through some
52:23
process work. Depending on what the intention
52:28
of the retreat. We put together process work.
52:32
So my next Retreat, we're going to be doing a beautiful
52:35
constellation using the planets and and all of us as putting us
52:41
on page where we want to be going with, with our Ascension.
52:46
And then, in the afternoon, everyone gets time to relax.
52:49
Go Journal, goes sleep. Go process, go really do
52:52
whatever you need to do to get yourself in the space for your
52:56
journey. And then when the sun sets,
53:00
everyone will receive their medicine, they're all vetted
53:04
beforehand. We make sure that we know what
53:06
medications they're on, we know what traumas they've gone
53:09
through, you know, as much as we possibly can.
53:12
So that we know what, how much space we are holding for them,
53:17
and then they're going to journey and we hold the space
53:20
for them and, and each person is different.
53:22
You know, some people just go within and they have these
53:26
mind-blowing experiences, they are some people that on her.
53:30
A health level. They need to purge to release
53:34
some toxins from their body. They are people that might want
53:39
to laugh. They are people that might want
53:41
to cry, but when you come out of the journey, we are there.
53:45
We then take you through to the fire, to just go and look at the
53:47
fire and just allow everything to start to process and on the
53:53
Sunday morning, we then have a big breakfast together because
53:56
everyone's very hungry and we can share and we do our Closing
54:00
ceremony. So it is a whole event and then
54:04
the the medicine keeps working with you for months afterwards.
54:10
We don't have to a lot of people tend to do a lot of Journeys
54:14
back to back and they don't actually need to the the
54:17
medicine is still working with you for months.
54:21
So yeah. So I was going to ask you that
54:24
actually so you know with a person do they I like obviously
54:30
you hold that space for them so you're really taking care of
54:35
them and making sure that that is safe and you've got the right
54:39
protocols in place to like making sure you know the
54:42
medications that they're on and everything like that.
54:46
I was going to ask, is it addictive?
54:48
Because a lot of people would, you know, like people get
54:52
addicted to this kind of It. Mind-expanding kind of Aunt, but
55:00
I know you are obviously opening up that channel for them
55:04
anyways, but what's your experience with that?
55:09
So it isn't addictive at all. We do offer Aftercare with micro
55:16
dosing which a lot of people tend to want to do it helps them
55:24
with Clarity concentration lowering anxiety.
55:30
Anyone that struggles with depression, they are different
55:34
kinds of strains of mushrooms that you can actually speak to a
55:39
specialist and you can receive your micro dosing that helps
55:43
you. I mean so many people are
55:44
struggling nowadays with such chronic depression and they
55:47
don't know that there is a little capsule that they can
55:50
take to to alleviate them from this terrible sickness in our
55:57
society. Yeah.
55:59
And AJ. I mean, how many people are
56:01
struggling with anxiety? So plant medicine, is there for
56:05
a reason? You know, nowadays the Cannabis
56:09
industry is starting to Boom because they're starting to use
56:12
it as a as a medicine which is the actual way of using it.
56:18
Yes, I can remember. When I was young, you know, I
56:23
tried a little bit of the hootchy-kootchy and I when
56:26
someone that worked in arcade a much more mature Person like a,
56:31
I was only a young girl at the time and he was, you know, like
56:34
a mature man and he said to me, you called it, you know, they
56:39
call it drugs, we call it medicine and I thought, oh,
56:43
that's interesting because I'd never have brokered everywhere.
56:49
Of course, now you hear about it, you know, that it is
56:52
definitely out there. So wow I imagine the Retreats
56:57
are pretty full, they must be very popular.
56:59
Popular with people you know coming on in and you do them you
57:04
offer them twice a year at this stage Philippa, do you?
57:08
Yes we offer them twice a year. We like to hold it around the
57:11
Equinox because it's a beautiful.
57:15
It's there's a lot of change, you know, things are changing.
57:20
It's either spring time or full time and there's a lot of either
57:24
letting go or rebirthing so it's a lovely time of the year.
57:30
At these, that these ceremonies can be held at other times.
57:33
We just tend to like to work with the moon and the cycles of
57:38
the planets. And we also I also love to teach
57:43
a bad plant medicine because you know, each and every single one
57:45
of us, we can find out what plants are indigenous to our
57:48
area and we can start to grow them in our garden and find out
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what is actually going on with here in South Africa.
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We've got a beautiful Plan called, devolder Al switch.
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Which is known as African wormwood.
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It grows in sand in my God, in a hydro even have to look after
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it. But if my son or my or any of us
58:08
have got a cold and flu, it is our go-to.
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I just pop it in some hot water. We drink it at flashes, out your
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body and it heals you from colds and flus.
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These are things that are non-toxic.
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These are things that you can each of us.
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Depending on where we live in the world, we have plants around
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us, supporting us 2. Now I realize I hope it is on
58:32
your bucket list to be traveling around the world and doing these
58:36
retreats in different paths. Is that going to be a
58:39
possibility? Because I know that a lot of
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people listening to this are going to go.
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I want to be involved in this Retreat and I suppose if you're
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someone who wants to know about Phillip has Retreat, she only
58:51
needs to give you a copy of this podcast and yeah I know what I'd
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be doing. I'm so yes.
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So you know that that's absolutely incredible and
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obviously, you follow your intuition with everything you do
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and you know, if there's someone out there that is, is listening
59:15
right now and they need a breakthrough because obviously,
59:20
that's what you are working with and these Retreats are, you
59:24
know, obviously when you're calling people Lin what are you
59:29
kind of telling them that they're going to be you know
59:33
where are they usually, what are they suffering and what are they
59:38
really wanting? What's that next level that they
59:42
want? And that's going to that you're
59:44
going to be giving them a lot of us are walking around feeling
59:49
stuck. We are feeling like they're
59:53
something bigger or we don't feel like we're good enough and
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I want you to know that none of that is true.
1:00:01
You are yeah, with a purpose, no matter how big or small, it
1:00:06
might be in your mind, it is in in the collective.
1:00:11
It's huge. You are here.
1:00:12
You have a special purpose that you need to share with the world
1:00:18
and so by healing Yourself by releasing your trap Drama by
1:00:24
letting go of things that aren't serving you that I keeping you
1:00:27
stuck, you start to ascend in your energy.
1:00:30
You will start to vibrate on a higher frequency and you will
1:00:33
call those people into your life that are looking to work with
1:00:37
you. But if you are not in a if you
1:00:41
are depressed and that's that's the frequency you sending out so
1:00:45
you have more of that around you.
1:00:47
So at the end of the day, especially parents eyes, I
1:00:51
really am. Like you cannot be more
1:00:56
incredible for your children, then healing yourself.
1:01:00
Healing yourself and letting go of those things that trigger you
1:01:04
are triggers, our biggest gifts, because it actually shows us
1:01:08
where we need to work and what we need to heal and too many of
1:01:12
us escaped from those triggers through using of drugs or
1:01:17
alcohol or, you know, numbing our brains with just watching
1:01:21
TV. It's all those are all escaping
1:01:24
tools. We don't want to sit with the
1:01:25
pain, we don't want to be present with it because it's too
1:01:28
much. But at End of the day, it will
1:01:31
subside, you won't always feel that way you do the work and it
1:01:36
will release and you will feel lighter and you will be able to
1:01:40
move forward and become unstuck. So inevitably that, you know, we
1:01:47
all have our gifts and as I said, big or small, but there
1:01:52
are people out there that need to hear from you that need to
1:01:55
talk to you, that need to see you.
1:01:57
That need to learn from you. We all Have our medicine,
1:02:01
everything is in medicine and give you tap into your medicine
1:02:05
and you share your medicine with others.
1:02:08
The ones that are looking for, you will find you the ones that
1:02:11
need to hear your message will hear it.
1:02:15
And the ones that don't, it's just not the right time and they
1:02:18
will find it through the frequency that they are looking
1:02:21
for. So, how beautifully said is
1:02:25
that, wow, what a privilege this is and I am sure there's going
1:02:29
to be a A lot of people that really want to get in contact
1:02:34
with you. So obviously we're going to have
1:02:37
the link right here so people can get in contact with you.
1:02:42
So they can be part of your healing, whether it's an online,
1:02:45
healing, whether it is, you're going to be involved in the
1:02:49
retreat that Retreat and everything you do certainly
1:02:53
sounds like, you know, it's opening up so much in your world
1:02:58
when you can write go from. You know, where you've been
1:03:01
stuck into shedding access kilo shedding, access pain, getting
1:03:07
rid of the sorrow and the stuckness and also writing a
1:03:10
business plan. Wow.
1:03:12
I mean, people must be absolutely singing your Praises
1:03:15
go. I just want to thank you so much
1:03:18
before I let you go. Is there anything else you would
1:03:21
want to share here for our listeners?
1:03:27
I would like to share that you need to create your own medicine
1:03:32
pouch, really look at the things that like to up the tools that
1:03:37
you want to work with. If there's something that you
1:03:39
wanting to do, going to do your due diligence, learn a bit more
1:03:43
about it and use that in, what is known as your energetic
1:03:48
medicine patch, you know, gather the knowledge that you want,
1:03:52
stop doing the things that you don't enjoy.
1:03:55
Because that is really not serving you.
1:03:59
It is old Paradigm that you have to do all these things that
1:04:03
aren't that don't make you feel good.
1:04:05
And that's not our truth or truth is to do things that light
1:04:09
us up. Shine are bright, Crazy Light,
1:04:12
and everyone around us will gravitate towards that.
1:04:16
So if I can pass on any information, just, you know,
1:04:20
grab a journal like to stuff out, sing your stuff up, Move
1:04:23
Your Body. It's all normal, did all these
1:04:27
little things that we don't get taught?
1:04:28
We get taught to sit and behind a desk and get stuck or city
1:04:33
wants trouble whelmed in information out.
1:04:36
They their life drowning in information and this is what
1:04:40
they need. They need this profound
1:04:42
experience. Well, you know what?
1:04:45
We are live on my YouTube channel and I have people
1:04:50
watching which I don't pay much attention to my YouTubers but
1:04:54
they are Very grateful. I do have people saying, how
1:04:58
grateful they are for your help. So please ensure Jarrett, that
1:05:04
you give us all your information.
1:05:06
We'll have it in the link and you know what to do people, you
1:05:11
contact this lady, get involved in her beautiful healing, her
1:05:18
Retreats, put your name down, twice a year and you know that
1:05:23
whether it's in the year 2022 or the year 2028, she is dedicated
1:05:31
to your pouch of medicine. Thank you so much for your
1:05:34
beautiful time. Philip Art.
1:05:37
Thank you Terry. It was an honor to be here and
1:05:42
thank you for listening to our show.
1:05:44
And if you want to know how to tap into your Zone, a genius, or
1:05:48
if you have a gift that you want to platform to the world, go to
1:05:53
my website. Terry. a messenger.com and where
1:05:57
it says Elite Crown master, key, click on book, a free Discovery
1:06:03
session and we will map out your road to success