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Credlin | 23 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. The Coalition today finally launching its defense policy.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty joins me tonight as to take a closer
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Speaker 2: look at the detail and get a sense from him
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Speaker 2: too how the lives are tracking in key wa seats.
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Speaker 2: More detail too on Labour's preference deal with the Greens,
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Speaker 2: including the anti Israel candidate in the Prime Minister's own electorate.
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Speaker 2: It called the PM out today he ran from questions,
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Speaker 2: but it can't pretend there's no preference deal when it
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Speaker 2: involves his very own seat. The teal, backed by big
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Speaker 2: climate money, caught out not only putting up posters where
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Speaker 2: she shouldn't, but using foreign workers to do it. And
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Speaker 2: the stark reality of Australia's crippling rise in power prices.
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Speaker 2: A small business operator who's had a sixty percent high
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Speaker 2: in his power bill and says it just can't go
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Speaker 2: on like this, And how's this for a former military
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Speaker 2: man Liberal Andrew Hasty who certainly hasn't forgotten how to
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Speaker 2: hit the target with this comment leveled against Labour's Defense
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Speaker 2: Minister Richard Miles.
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Speaker 3: This is the thing about Richard Males, talks a big game,
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Speaker 3: talks about the most dangerous strategic circumstances since the end
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Speaker 3: of the Second World War. To take a lecture from
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Speaker 3: Richard Miles, I mean it's it's below the belt.
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Speaker 2: Right on target. But first, Dutton was obviously keen last
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Speaker 2: night to get back in the action after the campaign
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Speaker 2: luwell brought on by the death of the Pope. The
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Speaker 2: debate was the feistiest so far, the opposition leader pushing
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Speaker 2: back hard against the PM's dishonest claims that the nuclear
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Speaker 2: policy would cost six hundred billion dollars.
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Speaker 4: Well, no, on, only invest in it, Phil, that's a
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Speaker 4: fact illegal, that's point because John Howard sitting.
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Speaker 5: Place the ban will lift them time and let the
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Speaker 5: market and David six hundred billion dollar figure comes from
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Speaker 5: a company that is a donor to the Labor Party,
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Speaker 5: full of labor staffers. Discredited and it is at odds
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Speaker 5: with one hundred and twenty billion dollar figure for the
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Speaker 5: construction of nuclear power site, which is the CSIRO figure.
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Speaker 2: And another hit two against the PM's equally dishonest claims
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Speaker 2: that Medicare bulk billing was under threat from the Coalition will.
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Speaker 5: Be honest health each and education every year, every increasing
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Speaker 5: for it. Minister, you couldn't lie straight in bed, Honestly,
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Speaker 5: this is unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: It can go to abuse.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's just the gaseous reality.
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Speaker 2: And the cumulative impact of don't finally taking these issues
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Speaker 2: these lies head on was a front page like this
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Speaker 2: one for Today's West Australian. Can't lie straight in bed
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Speaker 2: at read? Those liars are starting to catch up with
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Speaker 2: a PM. At some point in this campaign he was
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Speaker 2: going to face hard questions and serious scrutiny. Hopefully that
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Speaker 2: started today with journalists tackling him over the decision to
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Speaker 2: preference in anti Israeli Green in his own seat, especially
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Speaker 2: after saying he would not do deals with the Greens.
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Speaker 4: I will out negotiating with the Greens. That's even further
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Speaker 4: for you.
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Speaker 7: Can you rule out any changes to negative gearing and
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Speaker 7: capital gains tests?
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Speaker 6: How hard is it for the fiftieth.
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Speaker 4: Time using this negotiators with the Greens in horse former government,
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Speaker 4: in horse trading devotes and other matters.
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Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
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Speaker 2: Also, at some point the Colition was going to have
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Speaker 2: to take Labour's lies and pull them apart. Now it
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Speaker 2: should have happened earlier because Labour's only real strategy here
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Speaker 2: is a dishonest scare campaign against Peter Dutton. Finally, on
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Speaker 2: this front, TiO, we've seen some action. This morning. The
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Speaker 2: Coalition released what it said it was a comprehensive list
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Speaker 2: of the PM's lies, seventy six lies in twenty seven days,
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Speaker 2: including it says fifteen lies in just over an hour
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Speaker 2: during last night's debate. Now here are just a few.
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Speaker 4: On The truth is bulk billing was in free fall
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Speaker 4: because the incoming Liberal government. The last time they won
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Speaker 4: fifty billion dollars out of the hospital system.
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Speaker 2: Fact Peter Dunton was Health minister. Funding increased by sixteen
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Speaker 2: percent in two years.
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Speaker 4: This on education, thirty billion dollars ripped out of education.
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Speaker 4: That was the twenty fourteen Abbot budget.
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Speaker 2: In fact, the previous College government increased funding for public
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Speaker 2: schools year on year on budget deficits.
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Speaker 4: What we had to do when we came into office
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Speaker 4: was clean up the mess. Turn Liberal Party deficits. Seventy
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Speaker 4: eight billion dollars was what was predicted in that first year.
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Speaker 4: We turned that into a twenty two billion dollar surplus.
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Speaker 2: In fact, then even the journalist Phil Cooury fact check
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Speaker 2: the PM on this. The actual deficit was not even
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Speaker 2: half of that.
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Speaker 5: The seventy eight billion you inheritor was actually deficit was
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Speaker 5: actually a forecast.
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Speaker 6: The actual number was thirty one billion, when.
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Speaker 4: What it was forecast by the former governor.
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Speaker 6: But the actual number was thirty one.
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Speaker 4: And then there was this The budget papers in twenty
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Speaker 4: four day have line items there fifty billion dollars ripped
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Speaker 4: out of health, thirty billion dollars ripped out of education.
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Speaker 4: That was the twenty fourteen Abbot budget.
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Speaker 2: Now the fact is there are no references in the
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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen budget, not one to cutting health or education spending.
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Speaker 2: And then this Alban Easy professing that he'll be more
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Speaker 2: disciplined in how he spends your money.
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Speaker 4: And the current deficit, of course is there, but we've
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Speaker 4: harved it, will continue to work on savings, continue to
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Speaker 4: produce value. That's because we understand how important it is.
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Speaker 2: Fact well, there been no saves from this government. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: labours spending, decisions of costs, the budget body line accumulative
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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four billion dollars. Now it was
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Speaker 2: way past time for the Coalition to take the gloves
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Speaker 2: off against Anthony Albaneasy because there's been no kid glove
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Speaker 2: treatment from labor for the opposition. Peter Dutton and Andrew
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Speaker 2: face Dye will they've faced? Andrew Hasty faced a feral
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Speaker 2: media in Perth today announcing the coalition's defense policy to
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Speaker 2: increase spending to two point five percent of GDP in
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Speaker 2: the next term of parliament and to three percent over
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Speaker 2: the decade. The Defense Shadow was asked four times about
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Speaker 2: comments from twenty eighteen about women in combat, despite making
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Speaker 2: it crystal clear that under the Coalition combat places would
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Speaker 2: be open to anyone who could meet the physical standards.
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Speaker 3: Do you think women should serve in combat roles in
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Speaker 3: the adf YEA. The Coalition policies that all combat roles
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Speaker 3: are open to women. It's been a long standing position.
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Speaker 3: So we need to be able to win every fight
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Speaker 3: that we go into and that's why we'll uphold high standards.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. Have you seen that you can have lower standards?
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Speaker 8: Is that what you're saying?
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Speaker 3: Hardly? It's hardly saying we have one standard.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like from that answer that you still think women
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Speaker 2: aren't strong enough.
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Speaker 9: That is that right that women aren't strong enough to
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Speaker 9: deal with that sort of combat you described.
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Speaker 3: Again, No, I didn't say that at all.
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Speaker 5: Do you not believe in your own policy, then if
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Speaker 5: that's your personal belief for the coalition policy, it's allthing different.
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Speaker 3: I'm standing right here saying there's one policy. I mean,
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Speaker 3: this is kind of student politics stuff. He waked it
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Speaker 3: out of the park.
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Speaker 2: And perhaps this is the media's pack instinct to turn
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Speaker 2: our leader and a team they think is headed for
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Speaker 2: defeat into a laughing stock. Or it didn't work, and
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Speaker 2: if the polls are right, the campaign momentum might be
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Speaker 2: now for Labor. But this is an unusual election and
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Speaker 2: the politically aware or they are highly motivated. Of course
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Speaker 2: they're out there, they're prepolling, but get out into the
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Speaker 2: real world. Most photos are unenthusiastic and undecided either way,
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Speaker 2: meaning the vote is soft and that means any one
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Speaker 2: can get it. Elections in Australia decided seat by seat
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Speaker 2: in practical terms, are really one hundred and fifty local
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Speaker 2: contests as well as a national one, where the local
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Speaker 2: issues and strong local candidates can really make a difference
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Speaker 2: regardless of what's happening between the two leaders. Talking to
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Speaker 2: Coalition people on the ground who are manning pre polls again,
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Speaker 2: they opened yesterday, so I've spoken to people today and yesterday.
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Speaker 2: There's continuing optimism for strong results. Some half a million
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Speaker 2: people voted yesterday. That's two hundred thousand more that on
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Speaker 2: the first day of pre polling in twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 2: and traditionally strong early voting has signaled a likely change
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Speaker 2: of government.
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Speaker 3: Now, what do I know.
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Speaker 2: From personal experience, especially in the twenty ten campaign, Nothing
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Speaker 2: succeeds like persistence. Tony Abbott was behind in every poll
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Speaker 2: that year and every day of every pole throughout the campaign,
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Speaker 2: but he ended up winning more seats than Labor Again,
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Speaker 2: that's true for Scott Morrison in twenty nineteen. Last night,
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Speaker 2: Darton was sharper.
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Speaker 5: We need to make sure that we can get our
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Speaker 5: country back on track, that we can help manage the economy,
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Speaker 5: that we can reduce the costs in the economy, that
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Speaker 5: we can provide a twenty five cent a leader cut
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Speaker 5: to fuel to help families now until we can sort
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Speaker 5: out the energy system mess and make sure that we
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Speaker 5: can bring down the prices of food. We also have
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Speaker 5: a great plan to help young home buyers get into housing.
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Speaker 5: We need to make sure that we can help them
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Speaker 5: achieve the dream of home ownership, and we also want
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Speaker 5: to make sure that we can keep our country safe.
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Speaker 2: If he can be as relentlessly focused as he was
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Speaker 2: last night and today for the final ten days of
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Speaker 2: this campaign, that a lot of pollsters will have egg
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Speaker 2: on their face now. For me, I just don't want
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Speaker 2: to believe that Australians will reward the lyar in the lodge.
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Speaker 2: With three more years. We will see, won't we. Let's
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Speaker 2: check in with the two campaigns, starting with the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: Join me now. Political reporter Cam Reddin Well, Cam, I
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Speaker 2: always like to track in the final fortnite where they're
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Speaker 2: going and how many seats they're returning back to. I
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Speaker 2: think it's really instructive about what they're worried they might
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Speaker 2: lose or what they're hoping they might pick up. The PM, well,
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Speaker 2: he was back in West Australia and this time he
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Speaker 2: went to one of the sites where Peter Dutton's proposed
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Speaker 2: to build a nuclear reactor. So what can you tell us?
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Speaker 10: Yeah, that was the side of Collie Peter. One of
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Speaker 10: those seven sites that Peter Dutton is earmarked. You can't
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Speaker 10: help it. There's a bit of showmanship about this visit today,
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Speaker 10: so that the Albani could rack up and say here
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Speaker 10: I am somewhere that Peter Dutton hasn't been during the campaign.
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Speaker 6: We know that Labor is trying.
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Speaker 10: To focus in on that figure from the Smart Energy
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Speaker 10: Council report.
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Speaker 6: They say it would cost six.
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Speaker 10: Hundred billion dollars that plan from the coalition. We've seen
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Speaker 10: a bit more forthright pushback from senior figures within the
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Speaker 10: opposition to that figure, even in the last couple of days,
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Speaker 10: noting that that same report said well, actually, in a
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Speaker 10: best case scenario, if everything went according to plan, it
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Speaker 10: could come in significantly lower at one hundred and sixteen billion,
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Speaker 10: not six hundred billions. So started to see a little
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Speaker 10: bit more forthright pushback I think on that front.
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Speaker 6: Peter, you mentioned Collie.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's where we've been in the seat of O'Connor
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Speaker 10: southwest WA. We're just crossing the border now into the
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Speaker 10: seat of Canning, which yes is held by the shadow
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Speaker 10: Defense Minister. The margin there though, very narrow, so we're
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Speaker 10: just getting there now.
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Speaker 6: We'll see if we stop.
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Speaker 10: The one thing you mentioned there too in pre Pole,
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Speaker 10: which is really interesting five hundred thousand people voting yesterday.
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Speaker 6: I can tell you that just later.
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Speaker 10: This afternoon the AEC ticked over more than one million
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Speaker 10: people pre polling in the first forty eight hours.
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Speaker 6: That blows every record out of proportion.
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Speaker 10: How much do we read into that? What we've had easter,
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Speaker 10: We've got Anzac Day tomorrow, So it's a bit of.
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Speaker 6: An abridged week if you like. For pre pole.
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Speaker 10: They think that there might be just some people cramming
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Speaker 10: five days of voting into three, if you like.
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Speaker 6: So we'll see if we.
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Speaker 10: Can read anything into that if it drops off over
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Speaker 10: coming days. But back on the road in Wa, we
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Speaker 10: know the labour brand is strong here and they think
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Speaker 10: this will be key holding seats in particular around the
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Speaker 10: city to securing a second term in government.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly the state labor brand is strong. I'm less
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Speaker 2: convinced about federal labor. We'll leave it there, Thanks Cam.
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Speaker 2: Now to Peter Dutton's campaign. It wrapped up in Perth.
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Speaker 2: He's currently on his way back, I presume me, but
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Speaker 2: we don't really know, do we. Reuben Spargo filed this report.
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Speaker 11: Peter Dutton is in Perth selling his defense spending promise.
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Speaker 11: The longer waited policy is opening up a new front
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Speaker 11: in this election campaign. The Trump administration is calling for
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Speaker 11: allies to spend three percent of GDP on defense. The
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Speaker 11: opposition leader claims he will meet the target within a decade,
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Speaker 11: but it has nothing to do with the United States.
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Speaker 11: Over the next five years, the Coalition will spend twenty
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Speaker 11: one billion dollars more than labor. Under Anthony Alberzi, the
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Speaker 11: defense budget is forecast to hit two point three to
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Speaker 11: three percent of GDP by twenty thirty three thirty four.
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Speaker 11: Labour's on the attack asking how the Coalition will pay
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Speaker 11: for its increase. Are you going to make any savings
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Speaker 11: to pay for this announcement?
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Speaker 5: Will find savings, as we've belend clear as how as
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Speaker 5: John Howard did in ninety six, where Labor has invested
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Speaker 5: in the programs where they're that money's not being spend efficiently,
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Speaker 5: and we've given guarantees in relation to health and education
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Speaker 5: and other areas of Commonwealth expenditure. But the fact is
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Speaker 5: that Labour always wastes money. This is a biggest spending
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Speaker 5: government for forty years. They spend money. That's what drives
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Speaker 5: up interest rates.
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Speaker 11: The Coalition maintains it will release its costings in the
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Speaker 11: lead up to the election. Visiting this defense industry manufacturer
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Speaker 11: in the Labor held seat of Swan. The opposition is
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Speaker 11: promoting more than a business boost. Peter Dunston is seeking
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Speaker 11: to be tough on national security. He needs this policy
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Speaker 11: to land with voters. With time quickly running.
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Speaker 2: Out, I was loved tonight and I've actually got my
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Speaker 2: guests with me. I'm in Sydney and I'm joined here
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Speaker 2: in the studio by senior reporter Caroen the Marcus and
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Speaker 2: senior fellow at the Mensies Research Center, Nick Cata. Well,
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Speaker 2: welcome to you both. Hey, the lies are starting to
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Speaker 2: catch up with Labor here. Last night it was this
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Speaker 2: from the opposition leader.
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Speaker 5: You'll been honest.
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Speaker 4: Fifty health each and B and education every year. Epulation
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Speaker 4: is increasing for it.
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Speaker 5: Minister, you couldn't slice straight in bed. Honestly, this is unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: It can go to abuse. Well, it's just the gashous reality.
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Speaker 2: And now there's admission finally from the Health Minster Mark
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Speaker 2: Butler today that for many people you know this better
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Speaker 2: than me, your Medicare card is not enough by itself
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Speaker 2: to pay to see the doctor.
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Speaker 12: There will be Australians who will continue to be charged
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Speaker 12: to gap fee, but we think we can get to
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Speaker 12: ninety percent for all Australians under these arrangements.
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Speaker 2: Well, Akti, I don't think I have been bulk builled
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Speaker 2: for a GP visit since I was a UNI student
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Speaker 2: and that is a long time ago.
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Speaker 1: Why this sham medi scare scam to start unraveling, hasn't it, Peter?
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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact is that billing episodes are down
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Speaker 1: by twelve percent under this government. There's been a dramatic
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Speaker 1: fall since over the last three years in at the
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Speaker 1: lowest level they've been at for twenty years. And the
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Speaker 1: fourteen million extra bulk billing sessions that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: promises that won't even barely take them up to where
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Speaker 1: they were when they came into office, So that this
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Speaker 1: is absolute scare. It's a shocker and it's just amazing
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Speaker 1: to me it's taken so long to come out.
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Speaker 2: Do you think it feels like the coalition is actually
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Speaker 2: taking labor head on now? I know we've got ten
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Speaker 2: days to go and someone say it's too late, but
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Speaker 2: you know, finally there's some fighting the.
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Speaker 1: Dog absolutely and we should look at these urgent care clinics.
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Speaker 1: I mean the story on the Sky News website that
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Speaker 1: the urgent care clinics that they promised, only half of
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Speaker 1: them were opened the hours they said they would be.
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Speaker 1: The fundamental problem is a lack of doctors. It's not
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Speaker 1: throwing more money into medicare, particularly more money to try
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Speaker 1: and recruit more doctors, because that's what will bring the
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Speaker 1: price about building down.
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Speaker 2: Right, Let's go that preference scanner, because the PM said
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Speaker 2: uphill and down, David he will not do a deal
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Speaker 2: with the Greens, but he has already and it even
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Speaker 2: includes his own seat of Grainler, so he can't say
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Speaker 2: he's not doing one. It's in his seat where he's
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Speaker 2: giving his top preference to an Israel hating radical who's
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Speaker 2: running for the Greens. His name is Hannah Thomas. The
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Speaker 2: PM was asked about this this morning and decided it
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Speaker 2: was the Australian newspapers for fault for publishing the information.
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Speaker 4: Why is the Australian determined to give the Greens such profile.
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Speaker 4: It's rather strange. I've got to say I wouldn't have
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Speaker 4: been able to tell you if you'd have asked me
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Speaker 4: who the candidate was. Last Timmern in this seat. I
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Speaker 4: won on primaries. I won on primaries, That's why the
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Speaker 4: system works. I got more than fifty percent of the vote.
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Speaker 4: I look forward to people voting number one for me
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Speaker 4: and then filling in all the numbers just as they
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Speaker 4: did to make sure it's a formal vote. And I
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Speaker 4: don't intend to promote the name or the candidate of
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Speaker 4: the Greene Party candidate, and I'm surprised that the Australia
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Speaker 4: determined to promote them.
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Speaker 2: Mock in souscience. I'd say that because you know, I
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Speaker 2: don't know the name, I don't care who they are,
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Speaker 2: but it's so good I don't care enough. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to give them my number two preferences.
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Speaker 13: It is literally on his how to vote cards, so
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Speaker 13: he cannot use that excuse. But it is classic Albanesi
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Speaker 13: to deflect like that and somehow put the blame onto
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Speaker 13: a reporter asking the question like it's their fault that
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Speaker 13: he's found himself in a situation where he's even been
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Speaker 13: questioned about it. I'm sorry, but this is a person
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Speaker 13: who not only apparently represents everything that Alberanzi has been
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Speaker 13: talking about the extremist Greens for the past year or two,
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Speaker 13: but also stood at an anti Israel protest holding an
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Speaker 13: f Labor sign with fake bloe on it, and he
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Speaker 13: is who, this is, who he is directing voters to
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Speaker 13: put second. It is absolutely appalling. So he's already done
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Speaker 13: this deal clearly.
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Speaker 3: And it's not just him, it's.
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Speaker 13: The entire Labor Party save Josh Burns, who's running on
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Speaker 13: an open.
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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty exactly.
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Speaker 13: And what I was particularly disappointed in seeing. I mean,
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Speaker 13: I'm not shocked, but I'm disappointed that Mark Dreyfus, most
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Speaker 13: senior Jewish politician, our attorney general, has preferenced a green
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Speaker 13: as well as the second pick. And I've previously called
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Speaker 13: him on air, I've used the term Kappo. Has struck
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Speaker 13: me because it reminds me of the Jewish inmates and
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Speaker 13: concentration camps who would collaborate with the Nazis and brutalize
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Speaker 13: their fellow Jews in order to survive. Now I'm not
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Speaker 13: saying literally he's collaborating with Nazis here, but he is
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Speaker 13: trying for political survival by picking something that is a
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Speaker 13: betrayal to his own community. So look, it's shocking, but
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Speaker 13: not shocking in the same sense. And It just shows
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Speaker 13: that he Albanez, he cannot be trusted, nor can his
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Speaker 13: entire government when it comes to those promises that he's
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Speaker 13: not going to negotiate with the Greens because as you say,
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Speaker 13: this is a deal, this is a preference deal to
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Speaker 13: trade preferences. And I might also add Peter that the
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Speaker 13: Greens candidate did not even give him the same benefit.
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Speaker 13: She didn't put him second. She's preferenced and independent above
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Speaker 13: ALBANIZI well.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I told you, and I've said
19:34
Speaker 2: this again. You know Adam vand if he gets there
19:36
Speaker 2: as co prime Minister will have the whipan the International
19:40
Speaker 2: Monetary Fund. The IMF today is you should have start
19:42
Speaker 2: warning for whomever forms government that our economy is headed
19:46
Speaker 2: for a sharp downturn. The IMFs downgraded our GDP growth projections.
19:50
Speaker 2: These are the government's projections to one point six percent,
19:53
Speaker 2: down from two point one percent. That's what they just
19:55
Speaker 2: put out six months ago, while also projecting that inflation
19:59
Speaker 2: will rise above budget expectations. Inflation's an interesting one because
20:03
Speaker 2: I think everyone's out there saying that we're going to
20:05
Speaker 2: get this almost bankable cut in official rates, so down
20:09
Speaker 2: we'll go mortgages. Not so if inflation returns.
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Speaker 1: No, well, we can't get inflation down until we reduce
20:15
Speaker 1: government spending, which is locked in at around twenty seven
20:17
Speaker 1: percent of GDP, two percent higher or more than two
20:20
Speaker 1: percent higher than it was before the pandemic. So as
20:23
Speaker 1: long as we are spending money, inflation pressure will be
20:26
Speaker 1: there on inflation and this is hurting families, isn't it interesting?
20:30
Speaker 3: Peter?
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Speaker 1: Now we have defense on the agenda finally in this campaign,
20:34
Speaker 1: as you pointed out earlier in the show, and now
20:36
Speaker 1: at last we have the economy and fiscal management on
20:40
Speaker 1: the agenda thanks to the IMF, and let's hope we
20:42
Speaker 1: have a serious discussion on this because clearly for the
20:45
Speaker 1: future of the country those two issues are crucial, and
20:48
Speaker 1: yet we haven't been talking about them so far in
20:50
Speaker 1: this campaign.
20:51
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the PM and his extolling of
20:54
Speaker 2: his Catholic faith this week. He's got to be pretty
20:58
Speaker 2: embarrassed today then by his Labour canon. The Queensland seat
21:00
Speaker 2: of Flynn Helen Maddel, who in now deleted tweets from
21:04
Speaker 2: twenty twenty accused of late Pope Pope Francis, are providing
21:08
Speaker 2: ongoing support This is her quote for Pedo's Here was
21:12
Speaker 2: a PM today when asked about this.
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Speaker 4: She made a mistake that shouldn't have happened. And people,
21:18
Speaker 4: if they go back through their history in social media,
21:22
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's lots of people have made things they regret.
21:25
Speaker 4: She has said she regrets it, and that's entirely appropriate.
21:29
Speaker 2: I've said this before, Caroline, and it makes I guess
21:33
Speaker 2: your point there about Jewish labor. MP's powerful as well.
21:38
Speaker 2: Religion for the hard left is a venia. It gets
21:41
Speaker 2: dragged out in election campaigns, the Prime ministers using it.
21:44
Speaker 2: Now others are using it. But these guys sneer at
21:48
Speaker 2: people of faith, and when in government, all the things
21:50
Speaker 2: they promised, like religious freedom protections, they never eventuate.
21:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:55
Speaker 13: Absolutely, And I think it's pretty rich for Alberan Easy
21:59
Speaker 13: to be coming out and being and defending this candidate.
22:03
Speaker 13: You know, his own party have attacked Andrew Hasty, who
22:08
Speaker 13: I know is coming up on the program over past
22:11
Speaker 13: comments he's made, so that there seems to be a
22:13
Speaker 13: double standard. Don't talk about past comments when it comes to.
22:17
Speaker 12: Our own people.
22:18
Speaker 13: But it's fine, it's open slab when it comes to
22:20
Speaker 13: the other side.
22:21
Speaker 3: But on your point.
22:23
Speaker 13: About their real religious convictions, their personal convictions. I mean,
22:28
Speaker 13: you only have to look at Anthony Alberanize's past comments
22:32
Speaker 13: that he's made. He called Tony Abbott a mad monk.
22:35
Speaker 13: As I'm sure you remember, he's criticized Scott Morrison for
22:39
Speaker 13: mixing church and state. He does seem to have a
22:42
Speaker 13: deeply held contempt almost for people that have these this
22:47
Speaker 13: deep religious faith. So I think it's very difficult to
22:50
Speaker 13: see what he's saying, and how what he's said since
22:54
Speaker 13: the Pope's death and take it seriously or treat it
22:59
Speaker 13: with that it's authentic.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly. Early voting, I mean it's at record levels today.
23:04
Speaker 2: The numbers are coming in from the AEC. In the past,
23:08
Speaker 2: it's always been a bit of a point that when
23:11
Speaker 2: people come in hard and early, the government's on the nose, right,
23:14
Speaker 2: the government's on its way out the back door. Do
23:17
Speaker 2: you read anything into this rise in prepoles today.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a bad thing that we've got so
23:22
Speaker 1: much prepolling, Peter, But I'm not convinced that this is
23:26
Speaker 1: The people who are voting are the undecided voters. It
23:29
Speaker 1: seems to me that the voters that are not sure
23:31
Speaker 1: that the undecided will wait till the last minute. The
23:35
Speaker 1: ones people who have been going into the last couple
23:37
Speaker 1: of days clearly of people that knew who they were
23:38
Speaker 1: going to vote for. So I don't think we can
23:41
Speaker 1: read too much of the into the result from this,
23:44
Speaker 1: except to say that there is a large number of
23:45
Speaker 1: undecided voters, a big soft vote for labor, and that
23:49
Speaker 1: could still come the Coalition's way, just.
23:51
Speaker 2: Quickly, Caroline Bradfield, you've been out there talking to the
23:53
Speaker 2: teals and just skullduggery going on.
23:56
Speaker 13: Well, look the candidate that Nicolae Buller. She's had a
23:59
Speaker 13: very interesting few weeks. First there was the hairdresser scandal,
24:03
Speaker 13: where it emerged that she'd been banned from her local
24:06
Speaker 13: hairdresser after she made inappropriate sexual comments to a nineteen
24:10
Speaker 13: year old apprentice.
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Speaker 6: And then I.
24:11
Speaker 13: Revealed yesterday that she had made these anti Semitic comments
24:17
Speaker 13: on her social media page. She's blamed those comments on
24:20
Speaker 13: a volunteer. And then also this issue about power poles
24:24
Speaker 13: that she's been plagued with too. Her core flutes have
24:27
Speaker 13: been all over the Pacific Highway major highway here in
24:30
Speaker 13: Sydney on power poles. Osgrid's issued her a warning, but
24:34
Speaker 13: she's defended it, saying she's received legal advice, saying that
24:37
Speaker 13: that's okay to do, and everyone else starts down, she
24:40
Speaker 13: won't take them down. She's holding steadfast. It'll be interesting
24:43
Speaker 13: to see what Osgrid did it she so she defended
24:46
Speaker 13: those decisions, but she was pretty apologetic about some of
24:49
Speaker 13: the other stuff. This is what she had to say
24:51
Speaker 13: about those antisminic posts.
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Speaker 9: It was an absolutely awful, disgraceful any Semitic post and
25:00
Speaker 9: it was done by a volunteer. I was not my views,
25:03
Speaker 9: and I apologized. I think political leaders right across the
25:07
Speaker 9: spectrum have a responsibility to call out and stand up
25:11
Speaker 9: against anti Semitism, and that's exactly what I will do
25:14
Speaker 9: if I have the privilege of being elected.
25:17
Speaker 2: Interesting, I've got some things to tell you tomorrow either
25:19
Speaker 2: about her history as well. Let's move on now, Thank
25:22
Speaker 2: you both for your time to the jaw dropping reality
25:25
Speaker 2: for businesses around Australia getting hammered by crippling power bills.
25:28
Speaker 2: Let's turn to just one example. You'll find the town
25:31
Speaker 2: of Dorigo, about half an hour west of Cross Harbor.
25:35
Speaker 2: It's a region that punches above its weight in terms
25:37
Speaker 2: of tourism thanks to the proximity it has to a
25:39
Speaker 2: national park and the strength of the beef industry and
25:44
Speaker 2: local publican too. The Heritage Hotel, which is at the
25:47
Speaker 2: heart of the Dorigo community but for how long, worries
25:51
Speaker 2: its owners. Here's why. Electric costs for the hotel are
25:55
Speaker 2: through the roof have nearly sixty percent under labor from
25:58
Speaker 2: just thirty seven thousand a year ago to more than
26:01
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars, and it is rising. Dorigo is located
26:06
Speaker 2: in the seat of Kauper, which is on the threat
26:08
Speaker 2: from a Teal independent and if the last three years
26:10
Speaker 2: have proved anything, it's the climate push from Teals and
26:14
Speaker 2: others from the left that's driving up power prices as
26:17
Speaker 2: more and more renewables are forced into the system. Well
26:20
Speaker 2: enough's enough, says the owner of the pub, Peter Ferros.
26:24
Speaker 2: Peter Ferross joins me. Now, Peter, thank you for your time.
26:27
Speaker 2: I know everyone in a small business is busy, but
26:31
Speaker 2: you raise this with me on email, and I wanted
26:35
Speaker 2: to talk to real people on the show. Given how
26:37
Speaker 2: hard these power prices are hitting you in your community.
26:41
Speaker 2: What's it been like opening up these bills? It must
26:44
Speaker 2: be a real sense of dread for you.
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Speaker 14: It is, and it is particularly disturbing that we have
26:51
Speaker 14: the Prime Minister and the Labor Party and the two
26:54
Speaker 14: saying that renewables are the cheapest form of energy when
26:59
Speaker 14: the bills go up by this amount. It's fifty nine
27:02
Speaker 14: per peter over the last three years, so that's twenty
27:09
Speaker 14: thousand dollars and the economy in Dorigo is not going up,
27:14
Speaker 14: and that's just coming straight off the bottom line.
27:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to ask you that because I mean,
27:19
Speaker 2: if you're a really big company, you possibly pass that
27:23
Speaker 2: through down your supply chain. But if you're in the
27:26
Speaker 2: business of pouring beer, you can't put sixty percent on
27:29
Speaker 2: the price of a schooner, but you need to pay
27:31
Speaker 2: the power bill to keep the beer coal. I mean,
27:35
Speaker 2: what do you do? How do you cut your cloth here?
27:38
Speaker 14: Well, you don't. You just got to take the less profit, Peter.
27:43
Speaker 14: There's no solution to it. We have very busy bistro
27:48
Speaker 14: in Dorigo. There's one best diying north coast for the
27:52
Speaker 14: last seven years, and we just can't put up the
27:55
Speaker 14: meal prices because there's an amount to people can afford
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Speaker 14: to pay. And yet that's a backbone of the business.
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Speaker 2: I've been to Dorigo. I can concur with the awardor
28:09
Speaker 2: pub has won. But you've had an electrical engineer I understand,
28:13
Speaker 2: to analyze the energy billet or the usage at your hotel.
28:16
Speaker 2: Tell us about that.
28:18
Speaker 14: Yes, well, he's analyzed the usage of all the electrical
28:23
Speaker 14: use in the hotel. He's found that the baseline usage
28:29
Speaker 14: is in the cool rooms, the freezer room, and the fridges,
28:35
Speaker 14: and that goes on all day, twenty four hours a day,
28:40
Speaker 14: and then we have a peak in the morning where
28:42
Speaker 14: people get up and have breakfast, and then we have
28:44
Speaker 14: a busier people at night when people come to the bistro. Now,
28:49
Speaker 14: none of those are covered by solar throughout the day.
28:54
Speaker 14: So we're looking at a quote for a solar at
28:58
Speaker 14: one hundred and twenty five that would have to be
29:01
Speaker 14: backed up because we need it at night of another
29:06
Speaker 14: one hundred and fifty thousand in batteries. That's two hundred
29:10
Speaker 14: and seventy five thousand dollars to get a renewable solution
29:17
Speaker 14: for a hotel in a small country town. That's a
29:21
Speaker 14: level of investment. It's just not viable.
29:24
Speaker 2: Just before we go, Peter, if you could have your say.
29:27
Speaker 2: You know, if the Prime Minister or god forbid, Chris
29:30
Speaker 2: Bowen was to walk in the apartment, sit up at
29:31
Speaker 2: the bar, what would you say.
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Speaker 14: To them we need coal? There?
29:37
Speaker 2: You go pretty blind assessment there, Peter Ferriss, all the
29:40
Speaker 2: very best, all the very best. I'll love it there.
29:45
Speaker 2: If you can support his pav or any pub around
29:47
Speaker 2: the country, they're doing it tough in country towns. Please
29:49
Speaker 2: I say that as someone from the Bush, please support
29:52
Speaker 2: them all. Right after break, Finally we're a real choice
29:55
Speaker 2: when it comes to defense this election. I'm going to
29:56
Speaker 2: speak to Shadow Minister Andrew Hasty about today's beginning but
30:00
Speaker 2: also how the lives faring in Wa. The PM's back
30:04
Speaker 2: there again today, I think that's pretty telling. Plus a
30:07
Speaker 2: growing apathy of young Australians when it comes to ANZAC
30:10
Speaker 2: day and what it says too about who'll defend Australia
30:14
Speaker 2: if it's ever needed. Welcome Back's still to come. The
30:23
Speaker 2: staggering amount of tax you paid last financial years, both
30:26
Speaker 2: state and federal governments become addicted to other people's money.
30:31
Speaker 2: But first, today the Coalition unveiled it's long away to
30:34
Speaker 2: defense funding plan, pledging to boost spending by twenty one
30:38
Speaker 2: billion dollars over the next five years. This would see
30:41
Speaker 2: spending on defense rise by the Coalition to two point
30:44
Speaker 2: five percent of GDP within that period and reach three
30:47
Speaker 2: percent of GDP within a decade. Joining me now to
30:50
Speaker 2: discuss this and more, Shadow Defense Minister, and you're hasty,
30:54
Speaker 2: and you're welcome to the program. Look, it's not just
30:57
Speaker 2: the quantum you spend. You know that, I know that,
31:01
Speaker 2: But where you spend it, how you spend it. Tell
31:05
Speaker 2: me how your plan's different from what Labour says we need.
31:11
Speaker 3: Good evening, Peter, Well, it's good question. Labor has run
31:15
Speaker 3: down defense over the last three years. There's been no
31:17
Speaker 3: money and they've kept the spend at two percent of GDP.
31:21
Speaker 3: It's been static for the last three years. And the
31:23
Speaker 3: reality is that UCAS is a big imposition on the
31:26
Speaker 3: defense budget. So we've got to grow the defense budget
31:28
Speaker 3: or we'll keep cannibalizing capabilities in Army, Navy, and Air Force,
31:33
Speaker 3: which is what's happening right now under Labor. In fact,
31:35
Speaker 3: we've seen eighty billion dollars worth of cuts, delays, and
31:38
Speaker 3: reprioritizations in defense under Richard Miles and Anthony alban easy.
31:43
Speaker 3: So we are investing in defense, and the question is where, well,
31:48
Speaker 3: aucus is one thing we're going to get Orcus moving,
31:50
Speaker 3: it's it's been delayed under labor. We're going to reinstate
31:54
Speaker 3: the fourth squadron of F thirty five Joint Strike fighters.
31:57
Speaker 3: We're going to invest in drone and counter drone techtechnology,
32:00
Speaker 3: and we're going to rebuild army and navy and particularly
32:03
Speaker 3: the sustainment budgets. One of the first things that always
32:06
Speaker 3: gets cut is the sustainment budget, and which means our
32:09
Speaker 3: pilots don't get enough flying hours, our sailors don't get
32:12
Speaker 3: enough sea time, and our troops don't get to train
32:16
Speaker 3: with live ammunition. So these are the things that we're
32:18
Speaker 3: going to reinstate with our spend.
32:20
Speaker 8: I know when.
32:21
Speaker 2: Australians look at you, they feel confident that if the
32:23
Speaker 2: worst came to the worst, that we really were in
32:25
Speaker 2: a skirmish or something worse on our horizon, that you
32:29
Speaker 2: and the job would do your best to keep Australia safe.
32:33
Speaker 2: A lot of your supporters, though, I have to say, Perturb,
32:35
Speaker 2: that it's taken the Coalition a long time to get
32:38
Speaker 2: this policy out. What would you say to that.
32:42
Speaker 3: Well, Peter address this today. Peter doesn't address this today.
32:46
Speaker 3: Peter is prudent with the way he spends money. He's
32:49
Speaker 3: run businesses throughout his previous career and he's making sure
32:55
Speaker 3: that we have the money to do this. So that's
32:56
Speaker 3: why we've committed this at this point in time, and
33:01
Speaker 3: it's a safe investment, and that's the important thing. We're
33:06
Speaker 3: not going to pull money out, We're not going to
33:08
Speaker 3: make ridiculous policy on the run. We're actually going to
33:12
Speaker 3: think this through and that's what Peter Dutton and the
33:14
Speaker 3: team have done. So this is surety over the next
33:17
Speaker 3: five years two point five percent of GDP in five years.
33:21
Speaker 3: We're going to get it up to three percent in
33:23
Speaker 3: ten years, and of course labor are shooting for two
33:26
Speaker 3: point three to three in ten years, so we need
33:28
Speaker 3: this money. It's been through a process, is the point
33:30
Speaker 3: I'd make, And of.
33:32
Speaker 2: Course it's key to negotiating with the United States because
33:34
Speaker 2: it's saying allies around the world, we will stand with you,
33:39
Speaker 2: but you've got to lift your game and start to
33:40
Speaker 2: help yourself. And I think that's one of the flaws
33:42
Speaker 2: for the government should it ever go back to Donald
33:45
Speaker 2: Trump and try and negotiate a better deal on tariffs.
33:51
Speaker 3: That's right. We've got to demonstrate to the Americans as
33:54
Speaker 3: part of the AUCUST deal, that we're going to be
33:56
Speaker 3: sovereign ready by twenty thirty. In order to be sovereign ready,
33:59
Speaker 3: we've got to in hma Sterling here in Perth. We've
34:02
Speaker 3: got to uplift it from a conventional to a nuclear base.
34:04
Speaker 3: We've got to build a supply chain. We've got to
34:06
Speaker 3: invest in our education sector. We've got to identify the
34:09
Speaker 3: tradesmen who are going to do the nuclear welding and
34:11
Speaker 3: all the sorts of maintenance that is required of our submarines.
34:14
Speaker 3: We've got to do that by twenty thirty, and labor
34:17
Speaker 3: is not spending enough money to get that done. And
34:19
Speaker 3: so we're going to invest in WA. We're going to
34:21
Speaker 3: invest in Aucust, which is really important, and that will
34:25
Speaker 3: demonstrate to whoever's president in twenty thirty that we are
34:28
Speaker 3: ready to go to receive our Virginia Class submarines.
34:32
Speaker 2: Hey, I want to pick up some comments today pretty
34:35
Speaker 2: feral press conference today, when you got into some previous
34:40
Speaker 2: things you've said about women and men in combat zones.
34:43
Speaker 2: It's not just women, it's women and men. But I'll
34:46
Speaker 2: play the comments now for my viewers.
34:49
Speaker 3: When I think about some of the things I had
34:51
Speaker 3: to do in a close combat unit up at Bindoon
34:54
Speaker 3: not far from here, life fire drills where you practice
34:57
Speaker 3: a man down very anaerobic, very aerobically intensitive. You need
35:02
Speaker 3: fine motor skills you're firing live rounds. I remember picking
35:05
Speaker 3: up an eighty five kilo mate with my pack and
35:07
Speaker 3: webbing and my leg's buckling. Now I did that in training,
35:10
Speaker 3: but I work with men who did that under fire
35:12
Speaker 3: in combat.
35:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I make the point. I think I made it
35:16
Speaker 2: at the time at my show when I went to
35:18
Speaker 2: Afghanistan and met sas soldiers like you. On the ground,
35:21
Speaker 2: I picked up someone's pack. I could barely lift the pack,
35:25
Speaker 2: let alone be able to lift someone if I had
35:27
Speaker 2: to out of trouble on a battlefield. Now, if I
35:31
Speaker 2: could do it, and I'm six foot two, if I
35:33
Speaker 2: could do it, I'd argue for the job. But if
35:36
Speaker 2: I can't do it, it's about my physical ability, Andrew. It's
35:39
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with my gender. I think it's
35:42
Speaker 2: hard for anyone listening to you today to disagree with
35:45
Speaker 2: the point you're making.
35:48
Speaker 3: That's right, which is why we insist on one standard
35:51
Speaker 3: for our combat units, whether it's to be a fighter
35:54
Speaker 3: pilot or a member of the second Commando Regiment or
35:56
Speaker 3: the sas, whatever it might be, one standard, meet the
35:59
Speaker 3: standard you're in.
36:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, I commend you on how you handle that today. Hey,
36:03
Speaker 2: what's going on with Russia Indonesia and the ducks and drakes.
36:07
Speaker 2: The government's play by refusing to give you as they
36:10
Speaker 2: should under the Caretaker conventions, are proper defense briefing.
36:16
Speaker 3: Well, it's a massive report that apparently the Russians have
36:20
Speaker 3: approached Indonesia to put an airhead to our north in
36:26
Speaker 3: Indonesian territory. Now we don't know how true that report is,
36:30
Speaker 3: but we deserve a brief because it's a very significant
36:33
Speaker 3: move by Russia, a continental power all the way up
36:37
Speaker 3: in Europe, to then start venturing down into the Indo
36:40
Speaker 3: Pacific as far south as Indonesia. So we should be
36:43
Speaker 3: getting a brief, and even if it's a secure brief,
36:46
Speaker 3: we should be brought in. And Labor don't want the scrutiny.
36:49
Speaker 3: It looks like they've been caught on the run and
36:51
Speaker 3: they don't want to make this an election issue because
36:53
Speaker 3: they're weak on national security. That's the point about Anthony Albanezi.
36:56
Speaker 3: For the last three years, he's demonstrated consistent, persistent weakness
37:00
Speaker 3: in the face of strategic challenges in our region.
37:04
Speaker 2: Just on Anazac Day. Of course, it's Friday. Survey out
37:07
Speaker 2: today that says less than one in four younger Australians
37:10
Speaker 2: so thirteen to twenty eight years, feels a strong connection
37:13
Speaker 2: to Anzac Day. Only sixteen percent of gen z say
37:16
Speaker 2: they defend the nation if they had to. I've always
37:19
Speaker 2: said Andrew first, they're going to come for Australia Day,
37:21
Speaker 2: this is the hard left. Then they'll go after Anzac Day.
37:25
Speaker 2: We've got a PM in this country who seems ashamed
37:27
Speaker 2: of our flag. So how do you turn this around?
37:34
Speaker 3: Well, I think that young Australians just want to be challenged.
37:37
Speaker 3: No one's actually asked them to step up, no one's
37:39
Speaker 3: actually asked them to serve will be part of our
37:41
Speaker 3: Anzak tradition. Of course, there's issues in our education system
37:44
Speaker 3: with a syllabus that runs down a lot of our history,
37:48
Speaker 3: the good parts of it. We've got to tell all
37:50
Speaker 3: sides of history. But even the good parts of our
37:52
Speaker 3: history are being run down by some areas of the
37:55
Speaker 3: education sector. But I think the reality is we've seen
37:59
Speaker 3: this sorry before. We saw it in the UK. In fact,
38:02
Speaker 3: in nineteen thirty three at the Oxford Union where they
38:05
Speaker 3: had a debate that people would no longer fight for
38:07
Speaker 3: King and country, and the debate was one with a
38:12
Speaker 3: big majority young Britons at the time voted never to
38:16
Speaker 3: defend king and country. Well, the Second World War broke
38:19
Speaker 3: out in nineteen thirty and in nineteen forty it was
38:21
Speaker 3: young Britons who defended the UK from German invasion at
38:25
Speaker 3: the cost of many lives. So I have every confidence
38:28
Speaker 3: that if young Australians were asked to step up, they
38:31
Speaker 3: would meet the challenge. And it's finding those young Australians
38:34
Speaker 3: now and getting them into uniform and serving our country.
38:35
Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to do as Minister for Defense.
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Speaker 2: Look, we're always out of time, But the PM's going
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Speaker 2: to wa a lot. That says to me maybe he
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Speaker 2: thinks he's in trouble. How's a campaign going on the ground.
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Speaker 3: Look, we're working really hard. I'm in the South metropolitan area.
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Speaker 3: I know young Norberger up in Pierce is working hard.
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Speaker 3: Matt Moran and the seat of bullwinkled, Tom White in Curtain,
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Speaker 3: Howard Ong in Tangney, our key seats, that's what we're
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Speaker 3: focused on. To my south, Ben's small in Forest. These
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Speaker 3: people are working very, very hard for the Liberal Party
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Speaker 3: and you know what, we're starting to see the needle turn.
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Speaker 3: We're starting to see people saying, you know what, this
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Speaker 3: prime minister, he's weak, he's woke, and he's sending us
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Speaker 3: broke as Advance is making very clear. And it's no
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Speaker 3: surprise that he was in college today. He keeps name
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Speaker 3: checking me in his press conferences. I'm clearly living rent
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Speaker 3: free in his head. And he's even passing through Canning
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Speaker 3: in the next half hour to visit one of my prepoles.
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Speaker 3: So he's more than welcome to come because this is
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Speaker 3: where labor prime ministers come to lose elections.
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Speaker 2: Stay in the media. Andrew Hasty, we need more of
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Speaker 2: you on the national campaign, not less of you. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me tonight, all right after break. The regular
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Speaker 2: amount of tax you are paying, it's never been this
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Speaker 2: high in Australian history. Welcome back your first The government's
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Speaker 2: tax take is staggering. News today that Australian has paid
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Speaker 2: eight hundred and two billion dollars in taxes last financial year,
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Speaker 2: with the ableed Australian taxpayer contributing nearly thirty thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: each first of income tax made up more than half
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Speaker 2: that share, its biggest percentage in twenty five years, raising
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Speaker 2: serious concerns about fairness, competitiveness and economic pressure on working families.
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Speaker 2: And when we talk about tax I'm always reminded of this.
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Speaker 8: Now. Of course I am minimizing my tax and if
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Speaker 8: anybody in this country doesn't minimize their actually want.
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Speaker 3: Their head droom.
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Speaker 8: Because I at a government, I can tell you you're
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Speaker 8: not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now, my Paneltary Barnes from the Spectator, a
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Speaker 2: National Party senator Mat Canaman. Well, Matt, I tell you
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Speaker 2: what Kerry Packer. He was on the money there and
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Speaker 2: it's only got worse.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, Peter.
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Speaker 15: The other side of what Kerry was saying is the spending,
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Speaker 15: which I'll get to, which is not all ways well done.
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Speaker 15: But on these statistics about the taxing, the important thing
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Speaker 15: for people to realize here is that those taxes have
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Speaker 15: gone up at a federal level by three thousand dollars
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Speaker 15: a year per person since Anthony Albanzi was elected. So
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Speaker 15: not only your power bills up by one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 15: If you're an average homeowner in this country with an
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Speaker 15: average mortgage, your home repayments have gone up by about
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Speaker 15: twelve thousand dollars a year. Your grocery bills have gone
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Speaker 15: up by about three thousand dollars a year. And then
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Speaker 15: on top of that you get a tax bill that's
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Speaker 15: gone up three thousand dollars a year as well. No
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Speaker 15: wonder when I've been at the booths these last two days,
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Speaker 15: verse two days of voting, seeing so many people struggling
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Speaker 15: at the moment under this Albanesi government. And then you
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Speaker 15: come to the spending side here as well. That's even
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Speaker 15: the scarier thing. This government has increased spending massively. We're
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Speaker 15: now spending. Get this, Peter. Before COVID, your federal government
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Speaker 15: spent four hundred and seventy eight billion.
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Speaker 3: Dollars a year of your money.
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Speaker 15: Now that sits after three years of labor at seven
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Speaker 15: hundred and seventy seven billion, it's three hundred billion dollars more.
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Speaker 15: We've got rid of job Keeper, We've got rid of
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Speaker 15: all those COVID relief programs. Yet we're now spending three
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Speaker 15: hundred billion dollars a year more. They are only ten
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Speaker 15: million households in this country. That's thirty thousand dollars a
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Speaker 15: year extra of spending. And that's just that extra spending
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Speaker 15: is going to have to be future taxes unless we
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Speaker 15: get that under control.
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Speaker 2: And no one says they're better off. They're not better
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Speaker 2: off for it, so it's not like it's good money
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Speaker 2: well spent. Hey, Terry, I want to get your view
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Speaker 2: on this, given your history in the in the health
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Speaker 2: portfolio area. This is the PM's Medicare stunt. It keeps
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Speaker 2: pulling out that green card. Now, doctors groups have called
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Speaker 2: him out on this. They said it is not right
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Speaker 2: to say that's all you need to see a GP.
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Speaker 2: But he's putting stuff into letterboxes. He's got flyers going
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Speaker 2: out everywhere. The ground game on Medicare, from what I'm seeing,
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Speaker 2: is extraordinary. If labor survive, it'll be because of these lies.
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Speaker 16: We've been here before too, haven't we. Peter MIDI scare
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Speaker 16: Mark three or four. But look, when it comes to
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Speaker 16: what the Labor Party is proposing on bulk billing, I'm
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Speaker 16: not in me too, on it by any means, I
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Speaker 16: don't think it will work. Frankly, I don't think it
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Speaker 16: will work. And more than the point, I think good
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Speaker 16: on Shadow Minister and Rustin calling out to Mark Butler
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Speaker 16: today the Minister in terms of Anthony Alberonizi's claims that
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Speaker 16: everybody is going to be covered by bulk billing, I mean,
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Speaker 16: mister Butler made it clear that that is not the case.
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Speaker 16: But really in terms of what they're proposing, I just
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Speaker 16: can't see it working. It might marginally improve bulk building
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Speaker 16: in lower socioeconomic areas, but in middle Australia no, because
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Speaker 16: doctors will charge what they think they can afford or
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Speaker 16: what can get. And the reality is it might improve
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Speaker 16: bulk billing in broad meadows, but it won't in places
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Speaker 16: like bright.
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Speaker 2: Now more sort of shine coming off the teals. Voters
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Speaker 2: are looking at their record. We know that's true and
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Speaker 2: how often they vote across the board with the Greens.
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Speaker 2: But also now donations in so called transparency a Legraspender Well,
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Speaker 2: she says she wants reform, she's all about integrity, but
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Speaker 2: just last month she received a fifty thousand dollars donation
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Speaker 2: where we know she did she put it up on
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Speaker 2: her website, but then she just listed it as anonymous.
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Speaker 2: We also know from a recent media report that Climate
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Speaker 2: two hundred Simon Holmes a court well, he's such a
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Speaker 2: drag now on the Teal vote that many of these
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Speaker 2: women are trying to distance themselves from him. Are you
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Speaker 2: surprised ready?
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Speaker 3: This not at all, Peter.
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Speaker 15: I mean, the Teals have always sought to apply standards
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Speaker 15: to others which they don't seem to want to apply
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Speaker 15: to themselves, and so they've got some standards they're just
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Speaker 15: called double standards unfortunately for the Teals. And look, this
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Speaker 15: stick sort of worked perhaps a few years ago, when
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Speaker 15: they could act wholly than now and claim that they
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Speaker 15: would be better than what they perceived to be going
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Speaker 15: on in politics.
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Speaker 3: They promised a new politics.
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Speaker 15: There's anything really changed with them, apart from the level
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Speaker 15: of hypocrisy in Canberra growing. And so I think people
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Speaker 15: are waking up to that that the Teals are actually,
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Speaker 15: perhaps even worse on transparency than normal political parties. We've
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Speaker 15: seen this absurd situation where apparently some of the Teals
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Speaker 15: have been paying influences online to say nice things about them,
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Speaker 15: but are refusing disclose who they've paid. It's all a
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Speaker 15: bit schoolyard and gossipy. Soon we get in the back
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Speaker 15: of these people, I think the better our parliament will be.
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Speaker 2: Terry just quickly the front page of the Herald sign
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Speaker 2: in Victoria. This is a story that has not gone away.
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Speaker 2: And more bad news of course for Daniel Andrews, the
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Speaker 2: young man that was mowed down on a bike in
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Speaker 2: a car driven by mister or missus. We're told it
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Speaker 2: was missus Andrews on a bike in twenty twenty ten.
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Speaker 2: I think it might have been. He has got now
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Speaker 2: a secret cash deal to prevent what would have been
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Speaker 2: an explosive Supreme Court case. We're told the family is
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Speaker 2: still going to go to court. They still are pursuing
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Speaker 2: a defamation case. This little boy, he's my boy now,
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Speaker 2: but he only lost his life at the time. This
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Speaker 2: is something that is continuing, as I say to dog
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Speaker 2: the former premier.
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Speaker 16: Oh absolutely, Peter, and it's dogging the Labor party as
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Speaker 16: well in Victoria. But the reality is that that legal
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Speaker 16: case you're talking about, the settlement was actually with the
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Speaker 16: boys and his family's lawyers. It wasn't with the Daniel
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Speaker 16: Andrews or his wife Catherine, and certainly we're talking about
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Speaker 16: somebody's reputation here, if their reputation has been slanted in
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Speaker 16: the way that it has been, by the way this
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Speaker 16: has been dragged through the media and dragged through the courts,
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Speaker 16: I think he's got to go all the way. He
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Speaker 16: has to defend it, and if he wants to take
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Speaker 16: it to court and super defamation, good luck to him.
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Speaker 2: We'll say that'll be interesting because of course with defamation
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Speaker 2: comes discovery, and that's accessing a whole lot of records.
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Speaker 2: I suspect the former premier does not want to see daylight.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, gentlemen. Catch up with you next week. All right,
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Speaker 2: up next, cal Richards, Well, it's in this a joy
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Speaker 2: we're together in Sydney. Cal Richards joins me. Now, my
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Speaker 2: good friend, it's so lovely when I'm here because I
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Speaker 2: get to sit here and run through the words and
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Speaker 2: it's so much faster than the delay out of Melbourne. Hey,
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Speaker 2: I thought, given the events of this week with Pope Francis,
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Speaker 2: we might look at the word pope. And Sylvia, one
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Speaker 2: of our viewers, says, yes, it's a good idea, Peter.
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Speaker 2: What does the word pope mean?
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Speaker 7: Where does it come from Okay, it comes from Latin, unsurprisingly,
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Speaker 7: but from post classical Latin. And it's the post classical
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Speaker 7: Latin word papa, meaning father. In classical Latin peter means father,
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Speaker 7: but in post classical Latin papa is father, so basically
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Speaker 7: means father. It was coined very early in the piece
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Speaker 7: as a kind of honorary title for a whole lot
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Speaker 7: of bishops, starting in Alexandria in North Egypt in about
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Speaker 7: the third century, but only in the year ten seventy
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Speaker 7: three was finally given just to the Bishop of Rome
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Speaker 7: as his title alone. So Christianerdy is two thousand years old,
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Speaker 7: but the pope's only been called the pope for a
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Speaker 7: thousand years, and English is just the pope is just
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Speaker 7: the Anglicized version of popa.
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Speaker 2: Ah, all right, let's go some campaign ones. Rick wants
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Speaker 2: to know about the term pork barreling.
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Speaker 7: Means buying votes, and it's an American expression. And the
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Speaker 7: picture behind it is the eighteen hundreds Backwoods Congressional District
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Speaker 7: and a congressman who is there at the polling place
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Speaker 7: handing out salted pork from a barrel. Ah, hard to
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Speaker 7: say vote for me now. It never happened, but it
48:32
Speaker 7: was written up in a comic short story by a
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Speaker 7: man named Edward Everett Hale published in eighteen sixty three,
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Speaker 7: and the image captured the imagination of journalists, so they
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Speaker 7: started using it for any government handouts that were that
48:44
Speaker 7: were aimed at persuading voters to win their votes.
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Speaker 2: And as still current today, Hey Allen wants to know
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Speaker 2: about hustings?
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Speaker 3: Out on the hustings.
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Speaker 7: It's a corruption of house theme. The Vikings called any
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Speaker 7: gathering call together to make a decision a theme, and
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Speaker 7: in fact the Icelandic Parliament is still called the thing
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Speaker 7: now when you've got a gathering of a household to
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Speaker 7: make a decisions. It was a house thing, and house
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Speaker 7: thing got corrupted in English into husting.
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Speaker 3: Have we got time for?
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Speaker 6: Whnd?
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Speaker 2: Is pretty penny?
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Speaker 7: Very quickly goes back a long way seventeen ten, And
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Speaker 7: it originally meant a particular game for something very profitable,
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Speaker 7: And it's just the collaboration of the old adverb, old
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Speaker 7: adjective pretty meaning attractive, and penny when it was actually
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Speaker 7: worth something, so it represented money in general. So attractive
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Speaker 7: money is what a pretty penny originally meant. And of
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Speaker 7: course now we don't understand it because pennies are now
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Speaker 7: non existent but not worth much for so long. But
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Speaker 7: any attractive money is a pretty penny.
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Speaker 2: So the pretty in color and bigger the notes are
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Speaker 2: two PEPs. That works, but it's not the same as
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Speaker 2: pretty penny.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's the alliteration. The English language loves alliteration,
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Speaker 7: so you put in a couple of piece sounds like that.
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Speaker 7: For some reason, it digs in and just remains part
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Speaker 7: of the life, which I agree.
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Speaker 2: I love a little alliteration as well. And on a metopia.
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Speaker 2: If that's it for me and Kel, I'll see you
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Speaker 2: tomorrow at six