Latest / Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast / Week 7 Buy Low & Sell High Trade Targets | Fantasy Hockey Podcast

Transcript

Week 7 Buy Low & Sell High Trade Targets | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

• 0:00
  Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
• 0:03
  podcast. Whoa, whoa.
• 0:08
  That was Jake's menu. Because he is not here.
• 0:12
  Welcome. Yeah.
• 0:14
  Bangor Management, The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Kevin and
• 0:19
  Josh. Or maybe this way.
• 0:21
  Josh, I don't know where I'm gonna put you yet, but Jake's
• 0:24
  not here, so just two would. You cheeky The Revenge basement
• 0:30
  tour. I should not hear that he knows
• 0:34
  what that means. Ohm didn't prepare my roast.
• 0:38
  Yeah, I was gonna believe. But yeah, welcome into Bangor
• 0:46
  management. Two out of three podcast hosts
• 0:49
  today, but it's the best 2 out of 3, so.
• 0:53
  Yeah. Throughout 3, Jakey is
• 0:57
  currently, I think he's in New York right now.
• 0:59
  He's doing some scouting for the Rangers, not he's.
• 1:03
  That they could use it, yeah. They could use it, but now he's
• 1:09
  enjoying some quality time out there and we are enjoying some
• 1:13
  quality time in here in the basement.
• 1:17
  I mean, I'm literally in the basement.
• 1:19
  That's where I do my recording. I'm not in the basement.
• 1:22
  I wish I had a basement. When I sell my house, I'm
• 1:25
  getting a basement. Nice.
• 1:26
  But enough lollygagging. Today we are talking about week
• 1:31
  7. Buy low, sell high.
• 1:34
  Their targets. This is honestly one of my
• 1:36
  favorite episodes to record because if you're listening to
• 1:39
  this, if you're a banger management fan, you probably
• 1:42
  love trading. Do you love trading more than
• 1:44
  Josh and I? That's gonna be difficult.
• 1:47
  I made three trades in the past week.
• 1:49
  I. Mean one trade in the past week,
• 1:51
  but honestly, I think we're already breaking the record for
• 1:53
  trades in our league of record. Like our league of record does
• 1:56
  not like to trade. It's one of those leads that
• 1:58
  everybody just feels like you're trying to swindle them or, you
• 2:01
  know, we have a podcast into like, I know you're trying to
• 2:04
  pull on me, Ricky Bobby. It's.
• 2:06
  It's it's just very difficult. The fact that you were able to
• 2:09
  make 3 trades in like less than 7 days is honest.
• 2:11
  And none of them involved you or Jake usually.
• 2:13
  Like, there will be a couple trades in the season, but it'll
• 2:15
  always be in between the podcast hosts.
• 2:17
  So it's pretty crazy that all of our trades have not been within
• 2:20
  the family, you know? I hate trading with you guys
• 2:23
  because it feels like it feels like you guys already know
• 2:25
  everything that I wanna show you on.
• 2:28
  It's you and Jackie. Both refused to trade with me at
• 2:30
  this point. I mean some bigger management,
• 2:33
  Laura, like I think Josh and I first ever like you're doing.
• 2:37
  That's how he met. The league of record yeah, like
• 2:40
  me and Josh did not know each other until he joined the league
• 2:42
  of record that we currently play in together and have a podcast
• 2:45
  because of. Yeah, cuz we made like we spent
• 2:48
  hours you, he was the only person who would respond to my
• 2:51
  trade and I was the only person to talk to him.
• 2:53
  And we spent hours going back and forth.
• 2:55
  And then after we made the trade, we just kept chatting
• 2:57
  about all the fantasy hockey stuff.
• 2:58
  So, so yeah, that kind of the trading brought us together.
• 3:01
  Trading brings people together when you're trying to fleece
• 3:03
  them. We tried to trade for so long
• 3:06
  and then became best friends, made a podcast about it.
• 3:09
  So yeah, that's kind of how it goes.
• 3:10
  So that's how I remember it. To your other managers, yes, it
• 3:13
  was crazy. 4 for four. It was.
• 3:15
  I don't even blockbuster. We were.
• 3:16
  I can't believe we made a blockbuster happen just like
• 3:18
  that. I know that was wild.
• 3:21
  OK, let's dive in because we're getting Yeah.
• 3:24
  That trade? OK, you gave me.
• 3:25
  Five years ago. I know for a fact two of the
• 3:27
  four people you gave me were Marner and Devonte Paves.
• 3:31
  The one year tapes was good I gave you.
• 3:33
  I'm pretty sure JT I gave you, I think I gave you hurdle.
• 3:38
  Is that possible or did you give?
• 3:39
  You if possible. Hurdle was involved in that
• 3:41
  trade as well, forget which direction.
• 3:43
  Yeah, I don't remember all the. Details that I gave, that you
• 3:45
  gave me. You gave me a defenseman too, I
• 3:47
  think. Yeah, anyway, I.
• 3:49
  Forget but I just remember it was like JT for Marner.
• 3:53
  The big piece was JT. You want an awesome Matthews and
• 3:56
  Marner? That's.
• 3:56
  Why you wanted that was it. That was fun.
• 4:00
  This one anyways the. 1st of many times.
• 4:05
  But yeah, we're going to get into all our buy low sell highs
• 4:09
  for today. Jake is not here, so we're going
• 4:12
  to read his out and provide ample context to his picks.
• 4:17
  But we do have to start with our two weeks update.
• 4:21
  What did he tell people to join our Discord and subscribe on
• 4:23
  YouTube and comment five stars and all that fun stuff.
• 4:26
  Listen, listen, listen. Well, you just did that.
• 4:29
  OK, cool. If you don't know what Discord
• 4:32
  is, it's like an app. It's a platform that is a
• 4:36
  community where the Bangor management people hang out.
• 4:40
  So if you keep hearing us, I know some people message me on
• 4:42
  Instagram being like, I keep hearing you talk about the
• 4:45
  Discord, but what the hell is even that?
• 4:47
  Yeah. You can download it on your.
• 4:50
  Phone so there, yeah. Click the link in our bio, click
• 4:54
  on join Discord. It's gonna send you an invite to
• 4:56
  our specific discord and then you're in the community.
• 4:59
  You can talk about your state questions straight targets like
• 5:02
  literally every yes in the Bang gang.
• 5:06
  Is that what you said or I just said that for you?
• 5:09
  OK, now we've all said it. But yeah, honestly, every
• 5:12
  question you could have for us, we answer in the Discord, so
• 5:15
  it's a great place to be. We're also on YouTube, so as
• 5:18
  you're listening to this, there is a YouTube video happening at
• 5:21
  the same time. So if you're interested in
• 5:24
  watching that or have some extra free time, we're there.
• 5:27
  Drop us a comment, leave a like, subscribe.
• 5:30
  Most importantly also, if you're listening to this, this is a
• 5:33
  huge deal. But if you're listening to this
• 5:35
  and you're not following us on Spotify or Apple or wherever,
• 5:38
  you get those just like click on the podcast banner, hit that
• 5:41
  follow button. Honestly, it helps us out a lot,
• 5:43
  helps you guys out a lot as well because you're gonna get
• 5:45
  notified every time there's a new episode.
• 5:47
  So win, win, baby. Yeah, and every time we get a
• 5:50
  new follower, Kevin shakes that booty.
• 5:51
  So yes, it's definitely worth it.
• 5:54
  Count is up high right now so it's a lot of work for me, but
• 5:57
  worth. It it's worth it, it's OK.
• 5:59
  I think now we can. Get inspired somehow.
• 6:02
  More lollygagging with fewer hosts.
• 6:04
  But you know it was worth it. Let's get into our two weeks ago
• 6:08
  update. So who did we put as our bylaws
• 6:10
  2 weeks ago? First we had Brayden Point.
• 6:12
  Since then he's played five games, only has one goal.
• 6:15
  This is not a failure on our part, this is a We wanted to put
• 6:18
  him in this week's Bilo episode, but we realized we did him two
• 6:21
  recently. He is the ultimate why low at
• 6:23
  this point? I think he's surpassed Panarin
• 6:25
  because fans popping off now. So it's really point is the
• 6:27
  ultimate bylaw at this point. He's the player that when we
• 6:31
  make these episodes, we actually try to do.
• 6:34
  We actually try to list targets that are feasible for your
• 6:36
  fantasy teams, like what are the trades that we are trying to
• 6:38
  make and then we try to talk about those on the podcast so
• 6:41
  that you guys could also make those similar trades.
• 6:43
  I am still. Kevin and sending barrages of
• 6:46
  bondages for Brayden Point. The point owner in our league,
• 6:49
  like I think they just know how big of a bylaw he is and they're
• 6:53
  just, they're committed to holding the bag at this point
• 6:55
  just to spite Josh and I because we sent him so many offers.
• 6:57
  You know, to be fair, like there is something to be said where
• 7:00
  you don't wanna sell low, right? So it's, I mean, I held special
• 7:04
  COV for like a year it felt like, but then he started
• 7:07
  popping off and then I traded him.
• 7:09
  I hate trading a guy I have is not doing well, even though it
• 7:12
  feels like a relief when you get them off your team originally,
• 7:14
  you're always like not selling them out.
• 7:15
  Terrible value. So I can't blame him too much.
• 7:18
  But I feel like we're sending some good offers so so who
• 7:20
  knows, but that's a that's a good one for sure.
• 7:22
  Next we have Mackenzie Weeger. Since we mentioned him two weeks
• 7:25
  ago, he had seven games played, only one assist, 7 penalty
• 7:28
  minutes, 20 shots, 18 hits, 17 blocks.
• 7:31
  I put that because the reason you're getting Mackenzie Weegar
• 7:34
  is not for the points, especially on a Calgary team.
• 7:36
  That's not like it would be a nice bonus if he did that too.
• 7:39
  But his banger cats have been off the charts.
• 7:41
  He is still a huge bylow because the lack of points.
• 7:44
  But I'm pretty sure honestly people who are in a league with
• 7:47
  these categories aren't too upset having weaker on their
• 7:49
  team. Like yes, they would have liked
• 7:51
  the points, the power play points, but like with those
• 7:53
  Bangor cats, like he's just he's not worth the draft value they
• 7:56
  got him at, but he's still a very good part of their team.
• 7:58
  So I still think it's difficult to get him, but if you can, I
• 8:01
  still think it's a great buy. Locust people get more points
• 8:02
  than this. Context for a week or like he
• 8:05
  was my by law two weeks ago. But I did like, if you're just
• 8:09
  reading that now, you didn't actually listen to the episode
• 8:11
  and you're like, oh, why would they recommend?
• 8:13
  You're like his ass. Like, yeah.
• 8:16
  He is ass but there was context to it.
• 8:19
  It was you could actually at that time 2 weeks ago he was
• 8:21
  doing even worse than this funny enough.
• 8:23
  Like his banger cats were struggling.
• 8:25
  He had just got bumped off P1 so like there was a lot of negative
• 8:28
  energy for rigor and the the price for him was really low it.
• 8:31
  Was really. Low, Yeah, he only has one point
• 8:33
  in the last seven games, I think.
• 8:35
  Like, even at his best, he was like a .5 points per game kind
• 8:39
  of player. Like, that's not the reason why
• 8:40
  you had him on your team. Maybe now he's like a point 3.3
• 8:43
  player, which is honestly atrocious.
• 8:44
  Yeah, but if you're getting the Pimms, the Shaws, the kids in
• 8:47
  the blocks, like from a defenseman, that's great value.
• 8:51
  Yeah. And maybe you can be like, hey,
• 8:52
  here's a guy that's gonna get you more points.
• 8:54
  Like I'll take you off your hands type thing.
• 8:55
  Like that's the kind of trade you're gonna make where that
• 8:57
  points guy maybe you have an abundance of and you really need
• 8:59
  the banger coverage. Like, that's the kind of trade
• 9:01
  you're trying to do for McKenzie.
• 9:02
  Yeah, like I would love to flip my Shane Gosta spare for
• 9:05
  Mackenzie Weeger. But yeah, exactly.
• 9:07
  I mean, I've been trying to flip like Eric Carlson plus like
• 9:09
  another guy that gets you some hits just so it's like some
• 9:12
  category coverage. You get Mackenzie weaker but in
• 9:15
  our league is difficult. I have to say it was a good buy
• 9:18
  low. I think the ship may have sailed
• 9:19
  on it because the main reason it was Billy, Kevin said, is that
• 9:22
  he also wasn't paying. And then we had Philip
• 9:24
  Gustafson, who since then played four games, two wins, .907 save
• 9:29
  percentage, 2.49 goals against average.
• 9:31
  That's really solid. Like I think he was doing really
• 9:33
  poorly 2 weeks ago. I still think that you can buy
• 9:36
  low on him. I don't think that window is
• 9:37
  closed, but he's definitely starting to trend up.
• 9:39
  So it's going to take more than it would have taken 2 weeks ago.
• 9:43
  I will say that I'm just going to highlight Brayden Point is
• 9:45
  still the biggest guys. We've talked about Panarin for
• 9:49
  so long. It seems so risky when it's not
• 9:51
  happening. You're like, is he ever gonna
• 9:53
  turn it around? Like is this the biggest mistake
• 9:55
  I'm gonna make in fantasy this season?
• 9:56
  Like give away good players for these guys that are drafted in
• 9:58
  the second or third round in your fantasy leagues.
• 10:01
  And now look up Panera now, like everybody's just like cyber
• 10:04
  relief, bald Panarin and throw check our back.
• 10:06
  And it's it's amazing. So it feels so bad when you're
• 10:10
  going into it. But we've seen the heights of
• 10:12
  Brayden Point can get. You're trading a guy that's
• 10:14
  probably a cell high for a guy that's on ultimate buy low.
• 10:17
  It's going to feel bad. Yeah, I turned around.
• 10:19
  It will come. I just did a huge sell high buy
• 10:22
  low trade that honestly I don't feel great about right now.
• 10:24
  But if you follow the process, it should work out really well
• 10:28
  for me. I traded Johnston, Horvat and
• 10:30
  Kreider for essentially Kucherov, which the three guys I
• 10:34
  sent are top in the league right now, you know, and Kucherov is
• 10:37
  doing really poorly. But if you follow the process,
• 10:39
  the whole point of this is you feel bad at first, but over the
• 10:41
  course of the season they'll pay off for you.
• 10:42
  So same thing with Brayden Point, but let's get into our
• 10:45
  cell highs from 2 weeks ago. So first we had Brandon Montour.
• 10:48
  This worked out exactly as is said seven games played since
• 10:51
  then, one goal, one assist, 2 points, only three hits and
• 10:54
  seven blocks. So like I said, not only was his
• 10:56
  points unsustainable 2 weeks ago, his back cats were
• 10:59
  unsustainable. They were insane at the time.
• 11:01
  If you look at his game log exactly after our Vilosell high
• 11:04
  episode, he dropped off the face of the planet.
• 11:06
  And just like I said he would, we said he would.
• 11:09
  So so no, this was a great sell high.
• 11:11
  I hope you sold on him because now he's he kind of dropped back
• 11:14
  down to earth and I don't think you can get nearly as much
• 11:16
  value. Yeah, I completely agree.
• 11:19
  I think Montour was one of those names that he always has periods
• 11:22
  of time where he becomes like the best defenseman in fantasy.
• 11:25
  He. Feels like he loves me.
• 11:27
  We should both those schedule of when the month was scheduled to
• 11:30
  play Josh so everybody can know that to buy a buy low buy a sell
• 11:34
  high opportunities on the way. Or Matthew Olivier playing
• 11:36
  either of us, Yes. Guys, OK, I have to do this
• 11:40
  little tangent. You're gonna listen to this, But
• 11:43
  everybody that was in this code remembers my meltdown that I had
• 11:46
  in the press channel, the fantasy venting, the press
• 11:49
  channel in Discord. Because when Matthew Olivier
• 11:51
  played me like 2 weeks ago, he dropped a four point night
• 11:54
  against me, 4 points. Matthew Livier, the enforcer, he
• 11:58
  does not even know how to get a point.
• 11:59
  It doesn't know that is he. Before that game he had, I think
• 12:03
  he had two. One points on the.
• 12:04
  Season, yet he had like one point on the season.
• 12:06
  Yeah it was. Then after that he disgusting.
• 12:08
  He puts up 0 points for two straight weeks and then he goes
• 12:11
  up against me this week and puts up a three-point game.
• 12:15
  So 7/8 of his points on the season have come in two games
• 12:19
  and against me and Josh in separate matchups.
• 12:23
  So he has made it to the Josh and Kevin Hate club.
• 12:26
  He has now joined Adam Lowry who always kills it against us and
• 12:29
  gets shorthanded points and Mark Stone who just.
• 12:31
  There's so many reasons both from being on our team or being
• 12:33
  against us that we hate him. Anyways, let's move on to our
• 12:36
  salvation. Two weeks ago we haven't even
• 12:37
  diving into our new ones. We had Ryan Nugent Hopkins who
• 12:41
  since then four games played, zero goals, 4 assists, 4 points
• 12:43
  and has been injured. So obviously it's hard do pet
• 12:46
  ourselves on the back and be like, we knew he'd get injured
• 12:48
  so you should have sold him. But the fact is if you did tell
• 12:51
  him you're pretty happy. But not much to say on that.
• 12:53
  And. That was also like in the where
• 12:57
  Heyman was going to come back as well.
• 13:00
  Like his deployment was probably going to end up being like a
• 13:02
  line 3C for neutral Hopkins as what we've seen is a common
• 13:06
  occurrence for him when the team is fully healthy.
• 13:07
  So listen like not a pat on the back, But I still think that if
• 13:12
  you can get anything for new Hopkins like I would try to
• 13:13
  sell. And lastly we have Trevor
• 13:16
  Siegrist, who since then seven games played, two goals, 5 is 7
• 13:20
  points. But I will say I prepared this
• 13:22
  show doc last night, yesterday before the game, and he had only
• 13:26
  gotten 4 points in six games at the time.
• 13:29
  Yeah, then he puts up a three-point night.
• 13:31
  So now it makes us. Look a little.
• 13:32
  Us against Kevin, of course. So yeah, so he is a point for
• 13:37
  game since the two weeks ago, still a massive cell high.
• 13:40
  If it wasn't for last night's game, I'd say you have missed
• 13:42
  the boat on the cell high. Now maybe you can still pull it
• 13:44
  off, but don't expect this to last all season.
• 13:47
  No, especially Philly. Philly I think is one of those
• 13:50
  teams that I can, I can see like severely regressing in the
• 13:53
  second-half of the year. I want to capitalize on the
• 13:56
  versus value right now and still try to trade.
• 13:58
  Him, yeah, but let's dive into this week, all the new ones that
• 14:01
  people want to hear about. So let's start with my bio for
• 14:04
  the week. This is my favorite one.
• 14:06
  I really like this one, I was pretty happy with it even though
• 14:10
  he did put a goal last night. But my Bilo is Dylan Gunther of
• 14:14
  the Utah. So Gunther started off the
• 14:16
  season super hot but has cooled down significantly in the past
• 14:19
  two weeks where he's averaging .17 points per game, zero power
• 14:22
  play points and three shots on goal.
• 14:24
  So one thing to note is even despite the lack of points, he's
• 14:26
  still shooting, which is why I'd still, I'm not too worried or
• 14:29
  part of the reason I'm not too worried.
• 14:31
  He even got bumped off power play one for a game in favor of
• 14:33
  Kevin Stenlund, which obviously didn't last because it's so
• 14:36
  dumb. Yes, I wrote that in the show
• 14:37
  doc. I'm reading it because it was
• 14:39
  baffling. I almost picked up and was like,
• 14:40
  if they're gonna be this dumb, then maybe I'll pick him up.
• 14:42
  But I knew it wasn't gonna last more than a game so I didn't
• 14:44
  fall for it. But anyways, so yeah.
• 14:46
  So again, their owner may be panicking and thinking that his
• 14:49
  deployment is not a lock. Again, there is still an elite
• 14:51
  player and an elite shooter. The entire Utah team is
• 14:53
  struggling having lost five out of seven of the last games,
• 14:56
  Although again, I wrote this before last night's game where
• 14:58
  they won. So let's say having lost five of
• 15:00
  their last eight games, they have way too much offensive
• 15:03
  firepower and then there's way too good of a player for this to
• 15:05
  last. Act now while you can get him
• 15:06
  for cheap. Disclaimer, Utah doesn't have
• 15:08
  the greatest playoff schedule, but I'd still you still got to
• 15:11
  capitalize on opportunity like this.
• 15:12
  It's a 432, sucks in the finals, the quarterfinals, great
• 15:15
  schedule on semis is fine, but I just like putting that
• 15:18
  disclaimer out there in case I don't want people to get him not
• 15:21
  knowing that events and some good targets.
• 15:22
  I put Evgeni Malkin still a cell high.
• 15:25
  I think this can easily get done one for one and I would be way
• 15:28
  happier with Gunther. Brad Marshall is just popping
• 15:30
  off way rather Guenther, Chris Kreider popping off as well for
• 15:34
  Gunther, Nikolai Ellers also on a hot streak and Quentin Byfield
• 15:38
  also having 2 multi point games against me this week.
• 15:41
  So those are all some targets that I would look at sending for
• 15:43
  Crider for for Gunther. I mean I completely agree with
• 15:47
  all of this. I think Gunther is one of those
• 15:50
  names that they started the season super hot.
• 15:52
  Everybody got super hype on him and then he dried up really
• 15:56
  quickly. And then people are like, oh
• 15:58
  man, I missed the boat. Like this guy used to be like
• 16:01
  the best. Now he's the worst type of
• 16:02
  thing. And when you see those, when a
• 16:04
  new player is cementing his reputation as like a great
• 16:07
  player and then they have spells like this, it's a good
• 16:10
  opportunity because people are thinking about like, oh, was I
• 16:13
  wrong? Like is he actually not as good
• 16:14
  as I thought? So like that is a train of
• 16:17
  thought that is very common when you own a player of like this
• 16:20
  archetype. And also you can capitalize if
• 16:23
  you actually have the conviction in your take.
• 16:24
  But yes, that's actually a good player.
• 16:26
  The underlying metrics are there.
• 16:27
  The situation is great. He's still going to have success
• 16:30
  in the future. You can buy him on that like
• 16:32
  panic value a little bit. Yeah, especially like the fact
• 16:35
  that you got bumped off power play one for a game like that's
• 16:38
  a huge you can use that to your advantage because it's not gonna
• 16:41
  let obviously it didn't last, but like you can be like look,
• 16:44
  he might not even be a lock on power play 1.
• 16:46
  Kevin Stanley's creeping up there, you know, so.
• 16:48
  I mean, like, clearly he wasn't good in a good in good form.
• 16:52
  Clearly the coach wanted to spark something.
• 16:56
  He made an awful decision. Like one of the best ways to
• 16:59
  spark your star forward is to demote him off P2, clearly.
• 17:03
  And I guess. Page out of her odds book.
• 17:05
  Seriously. I mean, I understand like trying
• 17:07
  to balance out the fact that you still need team success.
• 17:10
  Everyone wanted your star players like not doing well, but
• 17:12
  is that is that the solution? I'm I'm just not sure, but there
• 17:16
  are way better days ahead for Gunther.
• 17:18
  Yes, Josh mentioned like the playoff schedule is not
• 17:20
  something that I really want to hold him the whole season 4.
• 17:23
  Like I want to kind of like get him now, capitalize on getting
• 17:26
  better value and then have an opportunity to trade him later
• 17:29
  in the season as well. Because the two game week in the
• 17:32
  playoffs in the championship is is not great, but he's going to
• 17:35
  provide so much value for your team before that point.
• 17:38
  Yeah, alright, Kevin, who you got for?
• 17:40
  Us all right this is a guy that has been on one of these
• 17:44
  episodes previously very early on in the season but yeah he was
• 17:49
  a cell high earlier and now he's a bi low.
• 17:52
  That's why you're talking about Pavel Dorothea V of the Vegas
• 17:56
  Golden Knights. Listen, when I say Pavel, you
• 18:02
  think about goals, goals, goals. These guys are goals.
• 18:04
  Goal. He scored 35 goals last year.
• 18:06
  He started extremely hot. This year he's already had ten
• 18:09
  goals on the season. We are.
• 18:11
  We are not a third of the way through the season yet.
• 18:13
  And he's got almost, yeah, he's going to get 40 goals this
• 18:16
  season, but over the last two weeks, guess how many goals he
• 18:20
  has. 0. He's got one goal, one goal in
• 18:24
  the last two, somebody points he has.
• 18:27
  What? What?
• 18:29
  What 1.1 goal in the last two weeks class He's he's pretty
• 18:32
  much dried up like yeah. And it's good to keep a pulse on
• 18:36
  the league and players that are going through stretches like
• 18:39
  this because even in the discord people were just like, oh man,
• 18:41
  Dora Faye really dried up, didn't he?
• 18:44
  And that's an opportunity to strike when you believe in the
• 18:48
  turnaround and I believe in the turn around for the Rafael he's
• 18:51
  his deployment is set. Honestly, I'm not worried about
• 18:54
  the deployment coming into the season.
• 18:56
  I think he fell in fantasy drafts because people weren't
• 18:58
  convinced that maybe he's going to start on P1.
• 19:00
  He was also injured. So we were like, oh, sorry.
• 19:03
  He was like, oh, is he gonna get that P1?
• 19:05
  Like where is he gonna play when he's when he's healthy?
• 19:08
  He he got healthy and instantly was on P1.
• 19:11
  Yeah, I had a A ahead of Theodore.
• 19:14
  Now the door was bumped off for Briggs named rookie that
• 19:18
  nobody's ever, ever heard of. Yeah, Bowman.
• 19:20
  So which I did pick up in my, you know, extremely deep league
• 19:24
  where everybody is rostered so. I felt pretty bad about that
• 19:26
  thinking about I. Do not recommend picking up in
• 19:29
  almost any league. Yeah, but all that to say,
• 19:32
  Theodore is not in favour. They much rather have Mitch
• 19:34
  Marner running that power play and Dora fave spot has zero
• 19:38
  question. So all that to say, he's playing
• 19:41
  almost 20 minutes a night. He's still shooting a lot.
• 19:44
  He is deployment is set. Everything is there for success
• 19:48
  in the future. The Vegas power play has also
• 19:50
  been extremely snakebitten since the Markstone injury.
• 19:53
  Like we are Markstone haters, but we're also not oblivious to
• 19:58
  the fact that he does bring value to this team and that he's
• 20:01
  a good player to have on the actual ice.
• 20:03
  He's just frustrating in fantasy because every time he plays
• 20:05
  against that he pops off and it's just like he can't keep
• 20:07
  getting away with. This, yeah.
• 20:08
  And then he's also frustrating if he's on your team.
• 20:10
  He's always injured so he's just a frustrating player in general.
• 20:13
  But he's not injured, he's playing against us and he's
• 20:16
  Recon havoc. So when when I like once in
• 20:20
  awhile, I like checking on how all the players are doing, you
• 20:22
  know, go on the players table, sort by all players, like even
• 20:24
  on teams, and I'll sort by season average.
• 20:26
  And he's at the top of that because before he got injured,
• 20:28
  he was popping off. Clearly makes a big difference
• 20:30
  for that power play and for Dora Fav.
• 20:32
  Yep, but all I have to say over the last two weeks, shooting
• 20:36
  percentage is at 7%. It's like 7.5.
• 20:39
  His career average last season was closer to 14.
• 20:43
  So he's basically half as good as he was in terms of shooting
• 20:47
  and scoring goals the last two weeks to the start of the
• 20:51
  season. I think all of this is going to
• 20:53
  get better. I think when Mark Stone comes
• 20:56
  back, I think the power play is gonna get better.
• 20:58
  I just think right now you can capitalize on somebody that
• 21:01
  drops the door off late in the 14th round.
• 21:03
  Maybe they thought they had a diamond in the rough.
• 21:05
  I don't think he has that reputation that is going to be
• 21:10
  like a stud like this for the whole year.
• 21:12
  I think people kind of like have the image of the rave in their
• 21:15
  head where he's a streaky guy right in while he's hot.
• 21:17
  He'll score a lot of goals, but he's pretty one-dimensional.
• 21:20
  He'll get through spells like this.
• 21:22
  But I really believe in Darfur have to be not only a season
• 21:25
  long hold, but like a guy that you could have drafted in the
• 21:27
  fifth or sixth round this year and been happy with that, with
• 21:29
  that outcome. So I really want to buy Dora
• 21:32
  Fev. I think he's extremely
• 21:34
  attainable right now if you can sell, you know, a similar
• 21:37
  archetype of player, but that's hot.
• 21:39
  That's the perfect the perfect cell.
• 21:43
  We always say one for one trades are awful.
• 21:45
  You don't want to do those because they're first of all
• 21:47
  hard to get done. And also you want to make a
• 21:49
  balanced trade where it's a 2 for two.
• 21:51
  So there's some sort of ambiguity.
• 21:53
  But these are potential names that you can maybe get in a one
• 21:55
  for one. I will say some are better than
• 21:57
  others, but I think Morgan geeky right now, he's also on fire.
• 22:00
  I would rather have Dora for rest of season.
• 22:02
  Like Yankee has the best playoff schedule just like the New York
• 22:05
  Rangers, but I'd rather have the shot volume because Dorothy of
• 22:09
  the better team and the heightened gold opportunity.
• 22:12
  I think Brock Besser is really hot right now.
• 22:14
  I think better if you could do like a Besser plus another piece
• 22:17
  for Dora Fev. I think that can get done.
• 22:19
  Nikolai Eller is a target that Josh mentioned for Dylan
• 22:22
  Gunther. I think you can trade him right
• 22:23
  now. He's super hot.
• 22:24
  He's on line 2 on Carolina already.
• 22:27
  We know what blowing under Rod can do for you.
• 22:31
  Maybe with the Jarvis injury, hopefully that's not long term.
• 22:34
  But I don't think it's long term.
• 22:35
  They said it wasn't. But then he's gonna be lined to
• 22:38
  power play 1 and yeah, that's a good deployment.
• 22:41
  But he's not gonna be keep. He's not gonna keep doing what
• 22:43
  he's doing right now. I think you can trade him for
• 22:45
  DIRECTV and Chris Kreider, the infamous Chris Kreider who Josh
• 22:48
  traded for Nikita Kucherov one for one.
• 22:51
  It wasn't one for one, but I think he's really hot right now.
• 22:56
  Anaheim is super hot scoring a lot of goals.
• 22:58
  Chris Cryder scoring a lot of those goals.
• 23:00
  You could trade him for Pravda Fav and I would be super happy
• 23:03
  getting any of those deals done because I think Dora Fave is
• 23:05
  gonna be a tremendous player for your fantasy team for weeks to
• 23:08
  come. Yeah, I agree with everything
• 23:10
  you said. I also like when there's like a
• 23:13
  specific catalyst you can point to when you turn around, it's
• 23:15
  gonna come. And I think Mark Stone
• 23:17
  returning, even though there's no timeline, so it might not be
• 23:19
  anytime soon necessarily. I think that's gonna be huge,
• 23:22
  but I also think there gonna figure it out before Stone
• 23:23
  returns. They have too many good pieces
• 23:24
  on that power plate to need one player.
• 23:26
  He's not even the best player. He's not even the second best
• 23:28
  player on that power play, right?
• 23:29
  It's Echo and Marner. Then you go like Stone, Dorff
• 23:32
  hurdles, something like that. So Stone obviously is going to
• 23:35
  make a big difference. He comes back, but they will
• 23:37
  figure it out before then. If Brayden Bowman's not the
• 23:39
  solution, they'll put in Barbashev, put in something
• 23:41
  else. You know, they keep putting in
• 23:42
  some fifth guy until eventually it clicks.
• 23:44
  So Garfield is at an all time low right now.
• 23:46
  He's gonna be sick this year. And I fully agree.
• 23:48
  Love your targets as well. I'd say my favorite, like my
• 23:51
  ranking of these targets. I think Geek is the best one of
• 23:54
  the four. Then I'd probably go Crider
• 23:58
  Euler's besser, but maybe. In terms of like who you, who do
• 24:01
  you'd rather give off? No cause or the best.
• 24:04
  The best player to me at least but I'm pretty low on elers and
• 24:08
  better I think I'm not the highest on so if you can pull
• 24:11
  off any of those I think it's great.
• 24:13
  But let's say you have multiple of these guys, then the first
• 24:15
  one I would offer is better then alright.
• 24:20
  Just wanna blasting on Duro Fev. But when you're when you look at
• 24:25
  like goal scorers like this for fantasy, like guys that are
• 24:28
  primarily goals, not many assists, you're gonna have a lot
• 24:31
  of periods of time in the season where they can't score every
• 24:34
  game. It's just impossible unless
• 24:35
  you're awesome Matthews that one year or Morgan.
• 24:38
  Geeky this year. So I'm not scared when times
• 24:42
  like this happen. Like, I just want to preface,
• 24:45
  preface that, that yeah, he has, he scored one goal in the last
• 24:51
  two weeks. It won't be the only time this
• 24:52
  season that he gets one goal in two weeks.
• 24:54
  Like it's bound to happen again. But that doesn't deter me from
• 24:57
  wanting him on my team. And yeah, and over the course of
• 24:59
  the season, the average is gonna be really nice.
• 25:01
  See if it's a bit streaky, it'll it'll average out to something
• 25:03
  you're really happy with. Exactly.
• 25:05
  All right, let's get into Jackie's cell.
• 25:09
  No pilot. For Jake who is not here so we
• 25:14
  will give context to his pick. But Josh, how about you lay it
• 25:17
  on us who did Jakey list as his bi Lo?
• 25:20
  And I will preface this with we make our own picks so we don't
• 25:26
  necessarily agree with everybody.
• 25:28
  Else's specific this is the real Rd. you're waiting for this
• 25:32
  point where we're both like, we don't necessarily think this is
• 25:35
  the biggest buy low obviously want him on our team, but I
• 25:37
  don't think he's I think he's doing pretty well.
• 25:39
  So anyways, we'll still mention it.
• 25:40
  Jackie said it and we'll give some context.
• 25:43
  Jake's choice is Connor Hellebuyck and he spelled his
• 25:45
  name wrong in the show doc but. Listen, who doesn't spell Connor
• 25:49
  Hellebuyck? They wrong me.
• 25:50
  I passed the spelling bee this summer.
• 25:53
  Alright Kevin, give some context on on why Connor Hellebuyck
• 25:55
  maybe is a Bilo. Alright, I do want to provide
• 25:58
  context because if you're hearing this name and you're
• 26:00
  like Connor Hellebuyck, a buy low, like he's not really doing
• 26:05
  bad right now. And I agree with you, he's not
• 26:08
  really doing bad right now. As of this recording.
• 26:10
  He had one bad game. But no, listen, we talked about
• 26:13
  the goalie position and how volatile it is.
• 26:15
  Bad games will happen. Connor Hellebuyck is still one
• 26:18
  of the best fantasy goal is in fantasy this year.
• 26:22
  Yes, Winnipeg is not as good as they were last year and that's
• 26:25
  the context that we need here. Connor Hellebuyck was a first
• 26:28
  round pick in almost every fantasy league this year.
• 26:31
  Unless your league severely decreases the value of goalies.
• 26:35
  Like he was a first round pick. Sometimes he went ahead of my
• 26:38
  car, sometimes he went ahead of Kaprizov and these guys are
• 26:41
  killing it this season. And I think that's what Jakey is
• 26:44
  trying to say here, that you know you drafted Connor
• 26:47
  Hellebuyck in the first round of your fantasy league.
• 26:50
  The opportunity cost when you're making a decision like that is a
• 26:53
  star forward that has 100 point plus potential, which can be a
• 26:57
  huge power asset for your fantasy team.
• 27:01
  Last season, Connor Hellebuyck won every trophy possible.
• 27:05
  He was a game breaker for your fantasy team.
• 27:08
  And if you drafted him in the first round expecting him to do
• 27:11
  what he did last year, you're severely disappointed.
• 27:13
  Now, if you were listening to this podcast in or honestly, I
• 27:17
  feel like any podcast, people were probably prefetching,
• 27:22
  prefacing that you can't expect what he did last year to be what
• 27:26
  he's going to do this year. Like it was one of those anomaly
• 27:28
  years that we saw from Kerry Price.
• 27:29
  Like, yeah, these are amazing goalies, but when you're
• 27:31
  performing at a level that's. OK, phrase could do anything
• 27:35
  good. But if you're expecting that
• 27:39
  level of performance, you're not going to get it.
• 27:42
  And so, yeah, you spent a high draft pick on a guy that you
• 27:46
  expected to win your goalie categories every week, and
• 27:49
  that's not happening. Like yeah, it's giving you good
• 27:51
  goalie stats, but it's not like the game breaking values that we
• 27:54
  saw last year, but he's still a good goalie to have.
• 27:57
  So if the Connor Hellebuyck manager in your league is at the
• 28:00
  bottom of the table, maybe they have a few injuries, maybe they
• 28:03
  have a hell of a bug who's good but not excellent like he was
• 28:06
  last year. There's an opportunity here to
• 28:08
  maybe capitalize on the sentiment around Connor
• 28:10
  Hellebuyck of he's not the game breaker I thought I was getting
• 28:13
  in the first round. I could have had Jacques on my
• 28:16
  roster. I could have had Capris on my
• 28:18
  roster. I could have had Macar on my
• 28:19
  roster. And yet I'm stuck with Connor
• 28:21
  Hellebuyck, who is not going to win me my matchups every single
• 28:25
  week. And if you're able to trade on
• 28:28
  that sentiment, maybe trade your best goalie plus a player.
• 28:31
  Jackie listed some targets, like if you could trade Cutter
• 28:35
  Gautier, the best goalie on your roster, for Connor Hellebuyck.
• 28:38
  Gotti is one of the biggest cell high right now.
• 28:40
  Everybody's excited. They picked them up off waivers.
• 28:42
  They drafted them really late. You have extreme value right
• 28:44
  now, but we don't expect this to last.
• 28:46
  If you could flip him for arguably the best and most
• 28:50
  consistent fantasy goalie, you do that in a heartbeat.
• 28:53
  For those not watching, I'm snapping my fingers right now.
• 28:57
  Let's say you have like Logan Thompson has been killing it,
• 28:59
  right? Thompson for halibut.
• 29:01
  That would be a sick. It's crazy because you know if
• 29:05
  you're trading your first round pick, you don't wanna step too
• 29:08
  low in value, where if you're trading him away, you wanna get
• 29:11
  somebody that's also drafted at least in the first 3 rounds in
• 29:14
  terms of value back. With goalies, it's ambiguous
• 29:17
  though, because their value kind of is separate from the forward
• 29:20
  skaters because not only is it a lot more context attributed with
• 29:26
  the goalie position, they're so volatile and goalies get hot and
• 29:30
  cold and their value completely fluctuates with that.
• 29:33
  So I think right now, hello Buck, is potentially attainable.
• 29:37
  You still have to pay a price. Obviously, we're not saying get
• 29:39
  your guest guys off the waivers and sell them for Connor
• 29:42
  Hellebuyck. Like that's not going to happen.
• 29:43
  And the manager may not be even completely disappointed with
• 29:47
  Hellbox performance right now. Like, yeah, he had one bad game,
• 29:49
  but he's been good. He just hasn't been game
• 29:51
  breaking. Yeah, at the bottom of the
• 29:53
  table, they're looking at their roster and they're like missing
• 29:56
  some depth. Like, you know, I always trying
• 29:58
  to find trade partners. I'm looking at the bottom of the
• 30:00
  table. I'm looking like, who are their
• 30:01
  star players that are underperforming?
• 30:02
  Yeah, But I don't always scroll to the goalies because goalies
• 30:05
  is kind of separate. It's like, OK, if I need a
• 30:08
  goalie, I'll look for goalies. If I don't need a goalie, I'm
• 30:10
  not looking for a goalie type. Yeah, but Hello Book is one of
• 30:13
  those guys. He's not doing bad enough that
• 30:14
  he's like a glaring by low, but if you're looking at all the
• 30:18
  first round picks that were in your fantasy leagues, like who
• 30:20
  is the worst one? Like right now it's probably
• 30:23
  Petrov who were saying as a by law, but that's probably Helck.
• 30:26
  Unless JT Miller was drafted in the first round of your fantasy
• 30:28
  league. You know what?
• 30:31
  I'm over it. I flipped him for McDavid, so
• 30:33
  I'm happy, yeah. So that that's kind of the
• 30:35
  mindset that I want you to have when you when you hear this
• 30:38
  Connor Hellebuyck take and what you can potentially do, like
• 30:42
  would you trade Igor Chesterton plus Cutter Gautier for Connor
• 30:45
  Hellebuyck or is that too much? That's a tough one actually,
• 30:50
  because like it's not like goatee is like a nothing throw
• 30:52
  in, right? No, no, no, you need it to be a
• 30:55
  significant upgrade. I don't know if I'm doing that
• 30:58
  on to be honest. And and I definitely prefer
• 31:01
  Hello Buck than than Igor. It's just is it a cutter goatee
• 31:04
  sized amount that I prefer that I'm not sure.
• 31:07
  I think Qatar Gotti plus like you said, like Logan Thompson is
• 31:10
  a great name if you can dispenser tonight like he's also
• 31:13
  been on fire like that feels. Like, yeah, that's highway
• 31:17
  robbery, honestly. What about John Tavares plus
• 31:20
  these goalies? I feel that's more palatable and
• 31:24
  This is why we're all here. First of all, Team 0G because
• 31:28
  these forwards are so valuable when you have them on your team.
• 31:31
  Yeah, and look where we are now, right?
• 31:34
  We're talking about being able to send a 6th, 7th round pick
• 31:38
  that's over performing plus your best goalie for a first round
• 31:41
  pick. That's not getting done for a
• 31:43
  first round forward or skater who is performing as they're
• 31:46
  expected or even underperforming a bit.
• 31:48
  Anyways, I like it. I don't necessarily consider him
• 31:51
  a buy low that much because I don't think he's playing that
• 31:54
  poorly. I usually like looking at guys
• 31:55
  who are actually under performing.
• 31:57
  He had one bad game, but yes, he has underperforming where he was
• 32:00
  and maybe this is like the one chance where someone would
• 32:02
  actually sell them. So yeah, to that point, I'll
• 32:04
  I'll give it to him, but. It's not a, it's not a, it's not
• 32:06
  a conventional bylaw, Yeah. But we wanted to highlight the
• 32:10
  situation and the sentiment around drafting of first round
• 32:12
  pick and maybe not being extremely satisfied with it and
• 32:15
  just always having that looming feeling that you missed out on
• 32:18
  an exceptional value. Exactly.
• 32:20
  Let's get into our sell highs. My cell high for this week is a
• 32:23
  bit of a lower targets one because we always talk about
• 32:27
  high end names but sometimes people don't like making those
• 32:29
  blockbusters. So here's a bit of a lower end
• 32:31
  one to to target or to offer. Ivan Barbashev of the Vegas
• 32:36
  Golden Knights Barbershop is averaging one point per game,
• 32:38
  zero power play points, 1.7 shots, 1.6 hits on the season.
• 32:42
  He shooting at 26% on the season versus a career average of 18%.
• 32:47
  He's line one with Iceland Marner which is great, but he's
• 32:49
  not power play 1 and has no chance of getting it as shown by
• 32:51
  Vegas bumping off the adore for Brayden Bowman over him.
• 32:55
  So if they're willing to bring in a guy who's never played in
• 32:57
  NHL game before and put him on power play one over Barbashev, I
• 33:00
  don't think Barbershop is getting power play.
• 33:02
  So and he has zero probably what's on the like probably 2 on
• 33:05
  Vegas is not a thing anyways. Nobody gets a point per game
• 33:08
  without any power play exposure other than super rare cases like
• 33:10
  Brandon Hagel last year. And barbershop is not bad.
• 33:12
  Brandon Hagel. You can sell Barbashev on his
• 33:14
  line one line mate. And the fact he's been doing so
• 33:16
  well to get someone on power play one who is underperforming.
• 33:19
  So guys that I'm looking at William Eckland, Dmitri Veronika
• 33:23
  V, you're Islet Kovsky, Dylan Holloway, again, you gotta aim
• 33:26
  realistically. I know you're looking at your
• 33:28
  guy like he's a point per game. Why am I offering it for?
• 33:30
  These guys are playing like scrubs but like barbershop is
• 33:33
  going to slow down and be like super cold so getting a guy
• 33:36
  who's a lock on power play 1 and will turn things around is just
• 33:39
  a big win for me. Yep.
• 33:42
  I agree and it's good to have trade targets like this where,
• 33:44
  you know, we talk about these big names like Brayden Point and
• 33:48
  Kucherov and all that, but guys like this that you most likely
• 33:52
  picked up off of waivers. If you're able to flip that for
• 33:55
  a guy that's going to be staying on your roster for the whole
• 33:57
  season that's like better than just a streamer level kind of
• 34:00
  guy, then that's a win too. Like that's how you make your
• 34:03
  fantasy team better. When you're picking up these
• 34:05
  guys on waivers that have big potential, they play to that
• 34:09
  potential. Then you sell them off for or
• 34:11
  you add them as a throw in a trade to get tear up type of
• 34:14
  thing. I love this barbershop is one of
• 34:17
  those clear names that you can sell on icon Marner.
• 34:20
  Yeah, killing it like sell that guy, sell that guy because he
• 34:23
  will end up on your waivers at some point if he gets bumped off
• 34:26
  line one, his complete value is cooked.
• 34:28
  So I'm trying to capitalize on that right now.
• 34:31
  I love the targets you listed. I think Eckland and Veronica
• 34:34
  did. They're not spicy like they're
• 34:35
  not they're not flashing names. They also will have their ups
• 34:38
  and downs like they're they're way better than a waiver type
• 34:41
  type of player in in your deeper leagues.
• 34:43
  Like I I want to preface that with like natural now just say
• 34:48
  profanity instead of. Yeah, of course.
• 34:50
  Well, now that we learn to properly say it, you know, Yeah.
• 34:53
  The most Italian word in the dictionary.
• 34:54
  But exactly yeah, slapping down Holloway would you like as well.
• 34:58
  I think Don Holloway is my favorite guy to target.
• 35:00
  I think I still think don't always buy low.
• 35:02
  So we're not highlighting them here specifically as a buy low
• 35:05
  on this show. But Dylan Holloway is a buy low.
• 35:07
  You already here first. If you can play barbershop for
• 35:10
  him that's exceptional. That's a 10 on trade in my.
• 35:13
  Book Yeah. I mean, for me, the thing that's
• 35:15
  tough is I just got Barbershop is kind of like a throw in my
• 35:17
  Kucherov, and I'm trying to immediately offload him before
• 35:20
  he inevitably slows down. But of the four targets I
• 35:23
  listed, two of them are on Kevin's team and two are on
• 35:25
  Jake's team, and none of them are gonna do that with me.
• 35:27
  So I gotta find some targets on some other teams.
• 35:29
  I'm actually using him right now as a additional piece, plus
• 35:32
  Gostisbehere, who's also a cell high to try and package for an
• 35:37
  upgrade somewhere else. But yeah, I think it's a really
• 35:40
  good name. That's the best way to do it.
• 35:41
  Find a position on your team that you want to get an upgrade
• 35:45
  at. Find like your worst player in
• 35:47
  that position, unless you want to upgrade your centre.
• 35:49
  You have a Nico Hischer and you want to get an upgrade there
• 35:53
  because he's also by law but you're not happy with him.
• 35:55
  Nico Hischier plus Ivan Barbashev, you can get a lot of
• 35:57
  good centres like that. You could maybe get Brayden
• 36:00
  Point or you can maybe get insert other centre here.
• 36:05
  Do the same thing with Defence Gostisbehere plus Barbershop for
• 36:09
  Victor Hedman for there's names out there that you can do that
• 36:13
  with. So that's what I'm trying to do
• 36:14
  with Barbershop. Right, Kevin, who you got as
• 36:18
  you're sell high? I'm happy to talk about this one
• 36:21
  because in years past I've had him on my fantasy teams and I've
• 36:25
  loved having him on my fantasy teams.
• 36:27
  He's always underrated, except this year, it feels like,
• 36:31
  because we're going to talk about Bull Horvat of the New
• 36:35
  York Islanders. I love him and I miss him.
• 36:37
  He was on Josh's team this year, drafted in the 99th round.
• 36:42
  Of a 14 teamer. Yeah, 14 team, 20 roster spots
• 36:45
  deep. George Garman the ninth round
• 36:48
  and flipped him 4. Nikita Kucherov 1 for one No.
• 36:52
  Feed a lot. OK, right now it doesn't feel
• 36:54
  great. Josh gave you gave a wide
• 36:56
  Johnston bohor VAT and. Kucherov, Monaghan and
• 37:01
  Barbashev. Monahan and Barbershop like
• 37:03
  throw wins for the pretty much yeah.
• 37:05
  So basically 3 for one and all Josh's guys were sell highs.
• 37:08
  Bull Horvat is a sell high. Over the last month he's been on
• 37:11
  pace to double his points from last year.
• 37:15
  Over the last month he's at 1.43 points per game.
• 37:20
  Last year he ended the season at 0.7, so a month is a big sample
• 37:24
  size, especially in in fantasy hockey.
• 37:27
  On this season he's at 1.3 points per game, which is
• 37:29
  already still elite, elite, elite.
• 37:32
  And he's shooting over three shots a game while still being
• 37:35
  elite at faceoffs. I don't think his pace should
• 37:39
  like I don't think his pace last season should be a 100%
• 37:42
  representation of what his baseline is going to be.
• 37:45
  I think he'll be better this year than he was last year.
• 37:47
  The Islanders last year were very bad and they didn't have
• 37:50
  the talent that they have this year.
• 37:51
  Like they added behind humans, they added Matthew Schaefer
• 37:53
  which completely like over overhauled their power play,
• 37:57
  which is. Well, he was injured for most of
• 37:59
  the. Season was injured for most of
• 38:01
  the season. He wasn't playing with Paul Mary
• 38:03
  who's the GOAT fever with water pick up for the season.
• 38:08
  But all that being said, I would not I would bet my house.
• 38:12
  Sorry, I would check Zillow right now.
• 38:14
  I would bet my house. The whole bed does not keep up
• 38:17
  this pace to unless you believe he's going to end the season
• 38:19
  when like the same the same points pace as McDavid,
• 38:22
  Kucherov, McKinnon then hold borer VAT.
• 38:26
  But if you think those guys are better than Horvat, probably
• 38:29
  sell Borova right now. The Islanders power play
• 38:31
  significantly better than last year.
• 38:33
  Credit the Shafer. But right now, there's only
• 38:35
  three pure season fantasy who have been better on the season
• 38:38
  than Bohor Bat. It's Nathan MacKinnon.
• 38:41
  It's Leo Carlson and Macklin. Celebrity.
• 38:43
  Now two or three names you probably did not expect to be on
• 38:46
  this list going into the year. They've been illy delete,
• 38:49
  delete. But bore Horvat is not the 4th
• 38:51
  best pure C in fantasy. His shooting percentage right
• 38:55
  now is 21 percent. 21% of his shots are goals.
• 38:58
  His career averages 13.7. Every time he shoots it goes in
• 39:02
  like I keep watching like Islanders highlights.
• 39:03
  I had him on my team until this past week and it's just like
• 39:06
  Horvat goes and just like a random RIP from like above the
• 39:08
  you know, circle or whatever and just goes in every time.
• 39:11
  And there's something to be said about players play with
• 39:13
  confidence and keeping this up. Like clearly honestly is at 1.3
• 39:16
  where a month and 1/2 into the season.
• 39:19
  But I do not expect this to last.
• 39:21
  I can see him ending the season at like a point per game pace
• 39:25
  which is already a huge step up from last year.
• 39:28
  It was 0.7. Well point begin would be huge
• 39:32
  jump up from there. It would also be a huge drop
• 39:35
  from where he's currently at if he's at 1.43 points per game.
• 39:39
  So all that to be said, yes you can be excited about Bohor but
• 39:43
  on your fantasy team, but also it's the perfect time to
• 39:46
  capitalize on this and tier up. Especially the centre position
• 39:49
  because you can do centre to centre is easy to make the
• 39:52
  comparison when you're trading with somebody.
• 39:53
  But there's also like a lot of cross position trades that you
• 39:56
  can do with a guy that's just like being elite across the
• 39:58
  board at fantasy hockey. I think you can aim high.
• 40:01
  I think you should aim high but also you have to make sure you
• 40:04
  getting fair value. Like I'm not saying get bored
• 40:06
  that is going to play the ninth round pick.
• 40:08
  Get him off your roster ASAP before he comes down.
• 40:10
  Black Earth you need to get fair value, but you can fair value
• 40:14
  right now is a very high pick, so you have to make sure you're
• 40:17
  getting that. Here are a few targets I think
• 40:19
  you should aim for. I'm not saying this is a one for
• 40:22
  one. I think these are guys with how
• 40:23
  boring is playing right now, you need to try to trade four.
• 40:27
  I think you need to try to trade for kucherov.
• 40:30
  Josh pulled that off amazingly. I think you need to trade for
• 40:34
  Austin Matthews right now who is currently on IR for at least a
• 40:38
  week. It shouldn't be long term, but
• 40:40
  Matthews is also not been first round pick.
• 40:43
  Matthews thus far he's still been great but he hasn't been
• 40:45
  game breaking elite Bohas been better.
• 40:48
  You can trade Borat for Matthews and I'm not saying one for one.
• 40:50
  I'm saying in a package you need to try to make these trades
• 40:53
  happen. These are guys you should target
• 40:55
  Jack Hughes as well. Jack Hughes just cut his hand at
• 40:58
  dinner with his team and he's and he's out.
• 41:01
  He's actually crazy. We talked about Jacques being
• 41:05
  injury prone, he's always missing time and whatnot.
• 41:07
  This interested even happened on the ice.
• 41:08
  He was a dinner. Guy didn't even happen at the
• 41:10
  rink. He's not even safe from his
• 41:12
  fortune lives anymore. I was gonna say, how hard was he
• 41:15
  going at this stage? You know, it's like.
• 41:20
  But these are all like huge names that we know are fantasy
• 41:24
  game Breakers that I think there's a realistic trait that
• 41:27
  you can put Horvat plus one guy or a three for two or even A3
• 41:31
  for one like Josh did and get these guys on your roster.
• 41:34
  If you're looking across position, I think your Warminski
• 41:37
  right now, I think Winski was a top three fantasy defenseman
• 41:39
  coming into the season. He's not performing at the level
• 41:42
  that he was last year, but he's underlying metrics still.
• 41:43
  There's still shooting. He's still blocking Columbus.
• 41:46
  Yeah, going through stress right now, but I want if you need
• 41:49
  defensemen and you have too many centres, a lot of leagues only
• 41:52
  play with two centre positions. You can get Horvat, Florence.
• 41:55
  You think one for one, that's a very feasible trade.
• 41:57
  You could even make it a bigger trade and get even more value
• 41:59
  out of it if you can get Panarin.
• 42:02
  I think JT Miller is still named to highlight.
• 42:04
  Like the Rangers have seemingly turned things around and JT
• 42:07
  Miller is still, I think the only, you know, high name Ranger
• 42:11
  that hasn't completely had the flipping value yet.
• 42:13
  Like he's still kind of trying to get points on the board.
• 42:17
  I think if you wanna goalie, I think you can get Vasilevsky.
• 42:20
  I think that's the one for one trade that with how boring is
• 42:22
  performing right now. He's he's ranked 7th in our
• 42:24
  league. Our league has face off wins,
• 42:26
  shorties and and every category you can imagine of you can
• 42:28
  imagine. I think you can trade board for
• 42:32
  best left you one for one. If the manager is no needs
• 42:36
  points, that's something that will be super tempting for them.
• 42:39
  But all that to say, these are listed high level names.
• 42:42
  Do due diligence, make sure getting fair value, but you have
• 42:44
  to capitalize on your performance right now.
• 42:47
  Yeah, I fully agree with everything you saying, obviously
• 42:49
  because I did it. But no, it's I mean, he's been
• 42:53
  such a joy to have on my team. What an amazing surprise.
• 42:58
  But it's like having said he's not gonna be bad.
• 43:00
  He's gonna be sick this year. Like he's not gonna drop to what
• 43:03
  he was last year, but there's no way he's gonna maintain this
• 43:06
  pace. So if you can get him for if you
• 43:07
  get like a first round pick for him in return then even in a
• 43:10
  package or one for one, then I love it.
• 43:11
  So I fully agree with everything Kevin said there.
• 43:14
  You have to at least try. Yeah, you have to try me do
• 43:18
  Jakey's choice. This is a good one.
• 43:20
  So sell high for Jakey this week is a guy who terrorized me last
• 43:25
  week and his one fantasy relevant week in the past like 3
• 43:29
  years. Miro Heiskanen of the Dallas
• 43:31
  Stars. I'm going to read Jake's blurb.
• 43:34
  This is an interesting one because everything is adding up
• 43:36
  for he's going to be a monster. He's turning 26 year old this
• 43:39
  year. That's crazy.
• 43:40
  I thought he was older entering the prime of his career is on
• 43:42
  what was probably the best offensive team in the NHL.
• 43:44
  He was drafted third overall, one pick over Mccarroll, and has
• 43:48
  always had a amazing offensive potential.
• 43:50
  That being said, he said enough of a sample size in his career
• 43:52
  to show that he's not a top five defenseman for fantasy hockey
• 43:55
  yet. He's on pace to be top 3 and #1
• 43:57
  in the past two weeks it's looking like he'll keep one.
• 44:00
  And of course that's intriguing. But there are places you can
• 44:02
  trade him. There are players you can trade
• 44:04
  him for that are much more reliable and have a higher floor
• 44:06
  and ceiling. If you look at his career points
• 44:08
  log, he's only had one amazing year three years ago where he
• 44:11
  scored 73 points and 79 games, but since then he had 54 and 71
• 44:14
  and then 25 and 50 last year. I expect he'll hit the 55 mark
• 44:18
  this year, which is nice, but this piece is the highest BE
• 44:20
  scoring at this year. Essentially.
• 44:22
  I think you could send him for any defenseman outside of
• 44:23
  Mccarran Hughes and even if you have a small piece, add a small
• 44:26
  piece to get it done. It's worth it and some targets
• 44:29
  that he put Lane Hudson, Evan Bouchard, Jake Sanderson, Zach
• 44:33
  Werenski and to give two forward names, Philip Forsberg and Dylan
• 44:36
  Gunther. And he says, curious what you
• 44:38
  guys think about this last one. So I'll comment on it because I
• 44:41
  was just reading what he said. This is amazing.
• 44:43
  I like everything he's saying. I love all the depth you went
• 44:46
  into with the career stats and all that.
• 44:49
  Of course, he mentions his draft pedigree because it's shaky and
• 44:51
  he loves that stuff. I'm surprised that the junior
• 44:53
  numbers didn't make it into this.
• 44:54
  But but no, he's gonna 6 cell high.
• 44:58
  One thing that Jackie didn't mention, which is an even bigger
• 45:01
  reason why sell high is that Dallas power play has been at an
• 45:04
  unreal pace the past two weeks and it's just not sustainable.
• 45:07
  Like they could still end up being the best power play in the
• 45:09
  league and it's not gonna be what they've been in the past
• 45:11
  two weeks. I know that why Johnston was is
• 45:13
  averaging a point per game, a power play point per game over
• 45:16
  the past two weeks. So and I know he's gonna has
• 45:18
  been a part of that a lot. So I do think he cemented his
• 45:22
  power play one spot, which is huge for his value, but there's
• 45:24
  no way that it's going to stay this high.
• 45:26
  I agree that you can pretty much aim for almost any defenseman.
• 45:29
  I honestly, I think he was you game for Makar.
• 45:31
  You can't. But like I even think you can
• 45:33
  aim for Hughes. So add that to the list of
• 45:34
  targets. I would take cues over him.
• 45:37
  I take Bouchard, Sanderson, Warenski.
• 45:38
  Hudson is an interesting 1. The Habs are in a bit of a slump
• 45:41
  right now. They have some injuries.
• 45:42
  So I think you could definitely I was gonna say I think you get
• 45:45
  Hudson plus and I'd like that Forsberg out definitely take
• 45:47
  over him and throw take over him.
• 45:49
  And I think this is all of these are achievable.
• 45:51
  So I really like everything he went with here.
• 45:53
  I feel like Haitian has always had the big name and he's on
• 45:56
  Dallas, one of the best teams. Like we said, they look like a
• 46:00
  juggernaut. They just beat to have 7 real
• 46:01
  guys, 7 zeros it was and we got. Like 2 massive injuries off
• 46:05
  yeah, depressed, but it's OK yeah.
• 46:07
  But he still has the name. He still has the name Paul.
• 46:10
  And in previous years like he's in has not been a fantasy
• 46:12
  defence. When you are on your roster, I
• 46:13
  feel like it's just been one of those guys that you drift off
• 46:15
  name value and then you're stuck holding because you wanna drop
• 46:18
  him. He's too good to drop because of
• 46:20
  the name. But he's not good for fantasy
• 46:22
  this year. He's great for fantasy.
• 46:24
  So you capitalize, capitalize on that right now because he's
• 46:28
  playing out of his mind. Love all the targets, like you
• 46:31
  said. I think the only one that's a
• 46:32
  little bit of an asterisk with Lynn Hudson because the Habs are
• 46:34
  in a slump right now. But long term would I rather
• 46:37
  have Hudson or he's gonna probably Hudson.
• 46:39
  But right now that feels like super 1 sided.
• 46:41
  You could get Hudson plus yeah, so do you.
• 46:43
  Due diligence is on your team. Just know what he's doing right
• 46:46
  now is not going to stay. We've seen it in the past.
• 46:50
  Sell them while you can. Tear up, tear up.
• 46:53
  That's how you win fantasy championships.
• 46:54
  You tear up. Get Bouchard, gets Anderson, get
• 46:56
  Werenski. You'll be thankful after.
• 46:59
  Yeah, and all that to say like he's not gonna drop off and be
• 47:01
  fantasy irrelevant rest of the year, but just he's not gonna be
• 47:03
  this good, right. I think that wraps up our buy
• 47:07
  low, sell high for. Week 7 yes, if you guys made it
• 47:11
  this far, really appreciate it. Once again, make sure you follow
• 47:15
  the podcast. It helps us out so much.
• 47:17
  It helps us reach more of you guys, and we're just trying to
• 47:20
  grow the community and help as many people as we can.
• 47:22
  Join the Discord. Like I said, huge community over
• 47:26
  there. Click the link in our bio on
• 47:28
  either Instagram, Twitter, or wherever you get your news.
• 47:32
  Click the link in our bio. Look at the link free any social
• 47:36
  media do not following us on click on it follow us there
• 47:39
  watch the YouTube leave us a comment 5.
• 47:42
  Stars Comment Five stars. Doesn't do anything but five
• 47:45
  stars looks. Happy.
• 47:48
  It's just a gag at this point, but yeah, follow YouTube
• 47:51
  channel, subscribe, like, comment, all that good stuff and
• 47:54
  we hope to see you on the next one.
• 47:56
  Take it away, Ernie. But about Bound Bangor
• 47:58
  management Fantasy hockey podcast.
• 48:00
  Woo woo overtaking.