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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 5-1-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: All right, So, Jeff Legwald, we're talking about an ankle,
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  Speaker 1: bo Nix's ankle, and like, follow me on this, all right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think a player having a broken ankle and
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  Speaker 1: then having it checked and then needing a follow up
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  Speaker 1: procedure is terribly uncommon. I don't think in and of itself,
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  Speaker 1: it's terribly alarming. The weird part is about all of
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  Speaker 1: this has been the messaging starting from the tet a
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  Speaker 1: tet between bo Nix and Sean Payton of anklegate at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the season two and we even joked
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  Speaker 1: about this the greatest rehab in the history of ankle
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  Speaker 1: injuries that the Greg Penner and Sean Payton and George
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  Speaker 1: Peyton were all alerting us to. We asked you about
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  Speaker 1: it when these quotes are made, and of course Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Legwald always gives us his answer of I'll believe it
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  Speaker 1: when I see it, which, uh, that's that's a salty
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  Speaker 1: old reporter right there, knowing how to do his job.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess my question here is, Jeff, and as
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  Speaker 1: you've dug into this, like when did they know about
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  Speaker 1: another procedure?
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  Speaker 2: And and and what did they.
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  Speaker 1: Know about another procedure? Like how how did all of
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  Speaker 1: this news come about for the Broncos and how did
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  Speaker 1: all the messaging get so disheveled?
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I Nate, I think, Uh, the quick answer
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  Speaker 3: is it's pretty convoluted as to you know, who know
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  Speaker 3: what when?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what did they know? And when did they know it?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Now Sometimes and it's very common when you go away
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  Speaker 3: to be checked, like he's going to the Andrews Orthopedic
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  Speaker 3: UH Complex in Birmingham where.
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  Speaker 2: That's where doctor Waldrop works.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's and most of your anybody who has
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  Speaker 3: a successful career, you know, and has an ankle problem
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  Speaker 3: is probably headed there or to Dallas where Cooper, the
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys' team physician, is also one of the big orthopedic
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  Speaker 3: surgeons for players around the league. So when you go away,
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  Speaker 3: you're often checked and sometimes they say as long as
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  Speaker 3: you're here, this needs to be addressed. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: or the the actual player will bring something to the
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  Speaker 3: attention of the sort of like hey, the other day
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  Speaker 3: I was working out and so yeah, some of that
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  Speaker 3: is is unclear, but you know they given that Nix
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  Speaker 3: has been at the Broncos facility rehabbing every day, I
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  Speaker 3: think everybody probably knew something in the days leading up
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  Speaker 3: before he went to Birmingham, and it was the recheck
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  Speaker 3: was scheduled because they probably said you better go get
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  Speaker 3: that checked out type of thing at some point, whether
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  Speaker 3: it was pain or some kind of issue in his rehab.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, there is a.
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  Speaker 3: Timeframe there between the owner's meetings and when everyone professed
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  Speaker 3: going to be ready for OTAs even was said publicly
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  Speaker 3: until the draft time when he did go. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think the messaging part was a lot of Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton's sort of dismissment, you know, dismissal of the question
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  Speaker 3: after the draft. Yeah, yeah, he went for a retrack.
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  Speaker 3: You know, everything was great. Nothing to report Now he
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  Speaker 3: often says nothing to report to me, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to want to talk about it. Not that there's actually
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  Speaker 3: nothing to report. He's hoping nobody looks for things to
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  Speaker 3: report after that. So the nothing to report is often
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  Speaker 3: his go to well when he does not want to
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  Speaker 3: speak to do an injury. So you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: some of the nothing to report wasn't him saying there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing going on. It was more him saying I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about it. So some of that messaging
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  Speaker 3: is just him and how he does things. But you
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  Speaker 3: know the real thing is is you know, likely to
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  Speaker 3: do nothing in the June work of substance, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like in eleven on eleven and all of that. I
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  Speaker 3: think it will be very surprising if he makes any
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  Speaker 3: sort of appearance, substantial appearance in any of that stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and then they're still in house planning for him to
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  Speaker 3: be ready for training camp. Now does that mean one
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  Speaker 3: hundred percent full go, you know, start of training camp.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we know the answer to that yet.
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  Speaker 5: All right, what will this do? Will they look to
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  Speaker 5: bring in another arm had they already done that? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: what are we talking about with one less quarterback in
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  Speaker 5: the rotation for these reps you talked about during the
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  Speaker 5: summer or spring sum We're here in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, uh, I think some of this
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  Speaker 4: will be seen.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're having a rookie mini camp next weekend,
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  Speaker 3: not this week, not this weekend, but Mother's Day weekend.
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  Speaker 3: They're having a rookie mini camp.
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  Speaker 4: So uh, if.
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  Speaker 3: There is a tryout, tryout quarterback in for that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that may show some things. But there's still time for
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  Speaker 3: them to worry about training camp.
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  Speaker 4: They can get through OTA's and mini camp with you know,
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  Speaker 4: with what they have.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't I don't think that will take anything
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  Speaker 3: training camp. Uh, they may need another arm if he's
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  Speaker 3: not you know, full full go, just to get through
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  Speaker 3: some of the practices and things.
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  Speaker 4: So but we don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we know the answer to that yet, Andy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I think long term, we don't. You know,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is not this is at least three
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  Speaker 3: ankle surgery since he joined the Broncos, and he had
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  Speaker 3: multiple ankle surgeries in college, and it is believed he
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  Speaker 3: had one in high school as well. So, but some
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  Speaker 3: of that is not available information to be verified one
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  Speaker 3: thousand percent correct.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't believe Sean Payton should be talking about
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  Speaker 1: how many ankle surgeries he has had. He doesn't even
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  Speaker 1: know how many ankle surgeries Bo has had.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and he may, you know, the team can track
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  Speaker 3: often at the combine. I hear of players medical histories
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  Speaker 3: from high school being discussed. That information is available at
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  Speaker 3: times to teams, but it's not always one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: with every player involved, so some of that comes to
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  Speaker 3: light later sometimes only if the player himself, you know,
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  Speaker 3: surrenders that information. So again, it's uh with like all
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  Speaker 3: of us, the medical histories are uh, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: a it can be a touchy business. Uh for anybody,
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  Speaker 3: including us, you know out there in the world. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: it's no different for NFL players. But I just think, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, again, he had an ankle surgery after his
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  Speaker 3: rookie season. He's now had two for this injury. So
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  Speaker 3: that's that's three in his two years as an NFL quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: I think that bears watching, you know, could mean nothing
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  Speaker 3: eight years from now. Sure he may not have he
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  Speaker 3: may not have another one. So uh, I think all
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  Speaker 3: of that just remains.
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  Speaker 4: To be to be looked at.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, he's attacking surgery. It's a special
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  Speaker 1: We'll announce a winner at five fifty five. Jeff with
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  Speaker 1: the with the with the latest update on another procedure
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  Speaker 1: for bow knicks. It's not as though I think Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton was clamoring for validation or anything else like that.
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  Speaker 1: But upon re examination of the initial ankle gate controversy, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the predisposed versus not predisposed, and what Sean Payton revealed
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  Speaker 1: when he talked to the media after the AFC Championship,
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  Speaker 1: and then what bow Nicks contradicted the next day when
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  Speaker 1: he talked on Zoom. Looking back on it all now,
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  Speaker 1: like what to make of all of it? Was Sean
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  Speaker 1: Peyton too honest or was he just being forthright and
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback didn't want the information out? Like, really, all
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  Speaker 1: we have to go off of, Jeff, is what they've
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  Speaker 1: all said, and what they've all said doesn't add up
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  Speaker 1: to much.
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  Speaker 4: Right, and it may not. Yeah, we we may.
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  Speaker 3: We may be frustrated, you know, just in a general sense.
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  Speaker 3: We can't get to the bottom of this. You know again, it's.
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  Speaker 1: We are frustrated in a general sense about a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, well, today's a good day to be frustrated. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's but you know again, it's it's medical issues can
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  Speaker 3: be touchy in the NFL. Players players see their teammates
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  Speaker 3: moved on, they don't get signed. You know, if if
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  Speaker 3: there's this medical uh, you know, cloud over them. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, players are always going to be sort of
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  Speaker 3: reluctant to get too deep into that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I've had guys not even want to tell me
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  Speaker 3: if it was, you know, the right knee or the
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  Speaker 3: left knee, you know, for for something. So, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there is just that general sense about it. I think
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  Speaker 3: Bo is like some young players in the league. I
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  Speaker 3: think he struggles with having like part of his life
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  Speaker 3: that's just his and you know the rest of it
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  Speaker 3: is your Broncos quarterback Bonix.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I think some of that is his nature about those things.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, again, I think Sean Payton has is
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  Speaker 3: briefed by the team's medical staff every day about players status.
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  Speaker 3: So he could have heard something and you know, expressed it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, both parts can be true. He
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  Speaker 3: could have expressed part of something or what he heard
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  Speaker 3: all of what he of what he heard in sort
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  Speaker 3: of a casual, ah, you know, media moment, and you
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  Speaker 3: know it wasn't maybe exactly syllable for syllable what.
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  Speaker 4: Bon Nicks believed it was.
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  Speaker 3: And I've said all when Bo spoke to a few
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  Speaker 3: of us on that call, I took it as.
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  Speaker 4: I am.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this isn't gonna change me from the player
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  Speaker 3: I am. That's that's how I took it in that moment,
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  Speaker 3: and I was later told that was correct. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't. He has told people in the building he
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  Speaker 3: wasn't taking a shot at Sean. He just didn't want
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  Speaker 3: people to think he was going to be impacted by this.
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  Speaker 4: But obviously he's because.
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  Speaker 1: He would like two hundred and fifty million dollars in
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years, which again is very understandable.
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  Speaker 3: And you're at the quarterback, you're the alpha, You're it's
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  Speaker 3: just not your mentality to say, I'm you know, this
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  Speaker 3: is a struggle for me, you know right now or
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  Speaker 3: you know that's just not in the in the DNA
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  Speaker 3: of the position. So I just I've said, I just
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  Speaker 3: think it will bear watching. It might not meet anything,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a season from now, two seasons from now.
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  Speaker 3: But all we know is that he's had three ankle
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  Speaker 3: surgeries since he started playing for the Denver Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: So we go from there with that information.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, you may not have asked this because maybe you
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  Speaker 5: don't care, but you do have connections in Pittsburgh. You
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  Speaker 5: covered that team extensively once upon a time. Why did
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  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh put the designation on Aaron Rodgers that they did.
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  Speaker 3: I think part of it is, you know, to sort
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  Speaker 3: of protect themselves a little bit and to spur it
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  Speaker 3: along a little bit too. Art Rooney has said publicly
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  Speaker 3: that he believed they would they would have known something already,
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  Speaker 3: so he has said that publicly.
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  Speaker 4: So that's not like a secret.
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  Speaker 3: So they're obviously sort of trying to get an answer
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  Speaker 3: from him. And you know, it's intriguing that this is
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  Speaker 3: how sort of Brett Faire.
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  Speaker 4: Did things at the end of his career.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, and that's the guy Aaron replaced, oh
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  Speaker 3: so long ago. So but I think it was more
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  Speaker 3: or less the Steelers trying to sort of protect themselves
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  Speaker 3: and and get an answer at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald, everybody ESPN dot Com get his Broncos coverage
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  Speaker 1: right there.
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  Speaker 2: Leggy, you're the best in the BIS man. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: And uh and and much like two other alums at
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  Speaker 1: the University of Illinois, Uh, you absolutely crushed it today.
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  Speaker 2: So nice job.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks Pallas. We'll see you all right.
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  Speaker 2: There he goes, there's Jeff Legwald