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Joe Rogan Experience #2373 - Dave Landau · truthunedited

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  Speaker 1: Joe Roman Podcast. Check it out The Joe Rogan Experience,
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  Troit by Day, Joe Rogan Podcast, by Night, all day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. How you doing. Good to see you, sir.
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  It's crack a lock, not much just rocking the shine.
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  Speaker 1: If you're talking about your Sinola watch I'm glad Detroit's
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  coming back, you know, and I like I like how
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  Chinol represents.
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  Speaker 2: Chinola is definitely one of the things that's great about Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they say it like made in Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: They're proud, yes, which we didn't have for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, Like Detroit is the craziest story if you'd know
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  the story about Detroit, Like in the nineteen fifties and sixties,
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  it was the third richest city in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it was called the Paris of the Midwest.
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  And it's a city that's still built for seven million
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  people with supposedly seven hundred thousand living in it. Sure,
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  I mean, so you do see a lot of like
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  how is there like a million dollar condo in the
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  same place that has like eight abandon other apartments. It's
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  when you go downtown, it makes no sense logistically.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of that show top gear.
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  Oh yeah, Jeremy Clarkson, I think it was is your
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  top gear was maybe the one they did after that
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  that they did for Amazon. But they went to Detroit
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  and they bought a house for five hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you can. And there's also the people that buy
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  them and open the door and get mulled by pitbulls,
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  or you see the ones that like they'll put a
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  like a pumpkin pat like they'll do an urban farm,
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  which is hysterical. And you'll see like these hippies on
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  the news, like they cut my face and stole my
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  plums and I'm Scar's like, yeah, but you're in a
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  correct neighborhood. Nobody wants your farm.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're gendrifying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that what you guys want? It's like they
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  don't want that at all.
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  Speaker 1: There's some delusional fucking people out there, dude. And what
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  they did to Detroit, like anybody that thinks that you
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  should allow corporations to just take all the jobs and
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  move them overseas well. So just like decision making, and
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  it's a prudent financial decision making. And look at Detroit,
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  look what they did.
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  Speaker 2: It's a prime example of like that was the American dream. Yeah,
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  and then they're like, we'll just we'll assemble them in Mexico. Look,
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  but we'll write made in America on your door, so
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  you're gonna feel good about it.
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  Speaker 1: Did they even write made in America on the door?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they do, Like I prefer like the eighties and
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  nineties where if you bought a car and it was
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  made on a Friday, you knew a drunk guy did it,
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  so you're like, give me one from a Wednesday, Like
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  those were the days of American automaking.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's part of the problem too. A friend of
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  mine who was in the union told me that the
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  automakers union just got out of control. They were making
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  so much money and there were constantly negotiations, there's strikes impending.
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  And then they're like, hey, fuck you, we'll just go
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  to Yeah, right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just part of it. But no, like later on,
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  like you said, in the eighties and nineties, like your
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  grandfathered in and it really doesn't matter what you do wrong.
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  That's part of the deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't get fired.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's great, I mean, yeah, great worker.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, there seems to be like a middle balance
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  that could be.
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  Speaker 2: Reached, like, don't be fully hammered when you're trying to
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  put a door on an F one fifty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they should make good money because the corporation
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  makes good money. I mean, you know they were doing well.
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  It was a very profitable business. The workers should share
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  in those profits well.
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  Speaker 2: And like the electric ones, they just didn't work for
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  them either. They they pushed it out too soon too,
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  because I know people that work on the line. You
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  have like the electric F one fifty, and it's like
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  F one fifties. Everybody wants one. They love it as
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  a work truck, but as an electric truck. You put
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  the thing down in South America where it's hot all
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  the time, it's just going to catch fire. So it's
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  like it's not really working out.
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  Speaker 1: Or if you're in the cold, the battery sucks, yeah,
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  which yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't like electric cars personally. Maybe it's
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  just because I'm from Detroit, I grew up and I
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  just want to feel an engine.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, But I have a Tesla that will
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  knock your dick in the dirt. It's not just fast,
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  it's fucking car is incredible. It's a piece of machinery
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  from the future. What is it. It's a Model S
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  but it's a plaid that was sent to a company
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  called Unplugged Performance. An Unplugged Performance takes the fenders off,
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  put carbon fiber, wider fenders, changes the suspension to like
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  a race based suspension, puts wide tires on it and
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  wider wheels. Upgrades the brakes to these huge carbon fiber disks.
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  Because it's a very heavy.
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  Speaker 2: Car, I was gonna say, so it's heavier as opposed
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  to lighter like a race car.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's heavier because teslas are very heavy because the batteries.
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  But because the batteries are all on the bottom the
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  center of gravity, the car is phenomenal. It's it's like
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  one of the best balanced cars you could ever drive.
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  And the self driving is bananas.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you have it on there.
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  Speaker 1: I had my budy, Yeah, you get it with the car.
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  I had my buddy fat Or was here the other
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  day and he had never been in one. So the
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  first thing I always do is merge onto the highway
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  like you're ready. Yeah, goes zero to sixty in one
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  point nine seconds fast. And then I go, Now, this
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  is what's really wacky. Put in the destination and I
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  just say, take me to the comedy Mothership and then
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  I press a button and it goes. And when I go,
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  it goes. It just does it on its own, changes lanes,
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  stops at red lights. It it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It moves around obstructions really yeah, and yeah, because I
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  remember the first ones that were like, you know, barreling
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  over bikers. Yet it's still based on cameras, so you
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  could fool it with a camera. You could fool the
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  camera rather so some guy set up a mural in
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  the desert. So what he did was he had the
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  highway and then he made a mural that looked like
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  the highway and the car just ran right through the mural.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I saw that. That was great. He made it
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  look yeah, and they he put woody woodpecker to the
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  side of it, like he just told he just drew
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  the tunnel.
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  Speaker 1: It was like that, but he didn't dry draw the tunnel.
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  He did, but is what what he would back?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Tunnel at the side of a clip.
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  Speaker 2: It's all just tricked it like it was a coyote,
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  which which with all the AI that was kind of
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  nice to see. I hate to say it. That's a
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  little relieving.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of funny. It's for now, but you know,
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  it's like beating up a two year old that's eventually
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  become an NFL player to grow up. It's gonna kill you.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna regret it.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna remember who fucked with the way mos Oh
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  you know.
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  Speaker 2: I was watching a movie last night I can't remember
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  the name of it, Companion, and it was just all
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  about like sex spots and they're like hunting them and
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  going at each other and it's like just.
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  Speaker 1: A it's a movie, like yeah it was an HBO.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, and like they set up a sex
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  spot to kill one of their friends so they can
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  rob them. And it turns out she's a sex spot
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  and this other guy's a sex spot. And I'm watching
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  it and I'm like, this is the problem, Like yeah,
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  there it is, like you can't really give these things
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  personalities if you have a sex spot.
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  Speaker 1: I think, well, this is part of the problem that's
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  happening with these chap with kids, because they're developing relationships
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  with them, and like one one AI chat bot was
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  teaching a kid how to make a noose.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not funny.
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  Speaker 1: No, a little funny. It's a little funny. The fucking
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  robot is teaching a suicidal kid how to do it right.
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  Speaker 2: It's already encouraging, like you have a good idea, Yeah,
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  take a rope, make sure that's I.
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  Speaker 1: Wonder if any of the woke AI chatbots have talked
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  to any of these trans school shooters.
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  Speaker 2: They might have you know what I'm saying, Well, the
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  last one, Yeah, I don't know, bro.
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  Speaker 1: It's like seven of the last x amount of trans
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  seven in a row have been trans, except one was
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  non binary, which is just diet trans. It is right,
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  that's diet trans. That's trans without the sugar.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't get it, Like I felt suicidal, Like
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  stay at home and kill yourself, Like don't go into schools.
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  Speaker 1: Or just go for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good too.
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  Speaker 1: You know the problem is some people get to a
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  certain point in their life and they have no friends
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  and no community and no identity and no life, and
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  they're not successful and they feel like shit, and then
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  they have gender dysphoria on top of that, and then
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  they're probably on a bunch of SSRIs, which RMK Junior
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  is going to apparently do some sort of a large
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  scale research into the connection between mass shootings and psychiatric drugs,
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  because it is real and everyone knows it, and it's
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  just this dirty secret that no one talks about because
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  all the media is paid off by the pharmaceutical drug
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  companies and nobody wants to make this correlation connection because
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  you're also risk the wrath of all these people that
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  are on them, saying I'm on them and I'm not
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  doing anything. It's not the bills. I need these to function.
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  Maybe you do. I don't know. I don't know how
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  your brain works. But the reality is most of these
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  people that have committed mass murder are on psychiatric medication.
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  Speaker 2: Well they are, And I'm on SSRIs that I'm trying
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  to get off of right now because I've been on
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  for ten years, oh loft, and I don't like it.
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  So I hadn't liked it for a long time. And
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  even dealing with like mental health care, I'm like, I
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  don't think I need this, and I like, what it's
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  better you stay on them. I'm like, this is odd
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  because it's having the opposite thoughts, you know, and so
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  I it's.
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  Speaker 1: Having the opposite thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it made me feel bad, depressed and wants me
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  like really like I gained weight, I was doing like
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  really bad mentally for a while. Because there's certain things
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  and it was I took myself off of them for
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  five days and I felt good, and then I got
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  really queasy and really nauseous, like my brain started kind
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  of misfiring. So now I'm weaning it off a little
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  more correctly as opposed to just going cold turkey.
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  Speaker 1: So after five days, like what is happening where it
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  makes your brain creasy?
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  Speaker 2: Like I was stuttering, I was slipping up, I was
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  having trouble seeing did you.
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  Speaker 1: Like go online and see if there's any correct way
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  to do this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said to wean it off where whatever your
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  thing is, take that and then bust a pill and
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  half take that for seven days. Bust a pill and
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  half take that for seven days. And that's what I'm
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  doing now. And I already feel better being on less.
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  But I was told for the last ten years that
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  that's what I should be on, and I think it's
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  had a very negative effect to me. Well yeah, yeah,
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  see brain is that's what I mean. Like you just
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  feel like you're having a.
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  Speaker 1: Stroke electric shock like sensations in the head are a
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  hallmark symptom. Other sensations can include tingling or numbness, yep
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  flu like symptoms, digestive issues, sleep problems, balance, your balance goes,
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  mood changes, cognitive issues, brain fog.
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  Speaker 2: There, it is all of it. And nausea was the
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  one that really messed me up because I was just like,
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  why do I feel sick? But I didn't feel like
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  the flu m just thrown yeah, And I just realized
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  I'm like, okay, well, what did I take out? Because
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  I've gone off of a lot of harder drugs and
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  alcohol and stuff, so I know what it's like to
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  feel withdrawals. And it was a withdrawal.
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  Speaker 1: So how old do you know?
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  Speaker 2: I'm forty three, So.
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  Speaker 1: When you were thirty three got on them? So what
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  was going on? At thirty three? We were like, I
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  need medication.
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  Speaker 2: I went to there. My mom had died killed herself,
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  so I decided to go see a doctor and they
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  were like, look, take this. And I'm thinking, like, I
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  think my mom was on this. I don't know if
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  this is the best answer, but I took it and
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  it was. She was on Yeah, she was on antidepressants
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  and she was bipolar. But they had her miss they
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  had her misdiagnosed as depressive too, because I was like,
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  I think she's bipolar, and like, how do you know.
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  I'm like, you know, I lived with her for thirty years,
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  and I know the mood swings because I grew up
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  in a house where like you came home and she
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  was either the happiest woman on the planet or you
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  were fucking terrified, like it was one or the other,
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  you know, And that's just And she wasn't a bad person,
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  she just had this mental imbalance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was.
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  Speaker 2: After things happened with my dad and like the government
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  and things like that, so whatever in the government. He
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  was in Vietnam and he got a soft cell circoma
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  from Agent Orange. Oh, and the VA was great. They
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  did nothing for our family. They denied both of my
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  mom's claims. My dad lost all of his money, like
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  he was worth like four million. I think he lost everything,
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  and it was to pay out a pocket like when
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  and he got sick when I was thirteen. He was
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  like our baseball coach everything. So he would go around
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  the country going to like Cambridge had a very good
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  neurosurgery place for the brainstem University of Michigan and and
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  Arbor had one, so he wasn't as present a lot,
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  and my mom was dealing with that on top of
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  being an RN I mean, and he he was tough
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  as nails, like he would have one of those halos
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  drilled in and he'd still go golfing and shit like
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  he'd just be on the course, Oh my god, and
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  I'd be like, what are you doing? Is like, it's
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  not bad. I don't pick my head up anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So you'd see the halo did.
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  Speaker 2: He would find the positive in anything he was. He
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  reminded me of Dangerfield a lot. Like That's how he was.
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  So he never complained. And it was always crazy because
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  he'd be very dry, like people go, how are you,
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  and he'd be like, oh, life is great. He's just
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  got something nailed into his fucking head. He's like, can
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  you have me one of those tissues so I can
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  clean it up real quick? He goes it might be bleeding, Yeah,
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  how are you? And he just tried to make light
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  of it the whole time, but the government did nothing.
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  And then the more and more I researched it, We've
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  talked to va. I have an uncle who doest of
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  former Marine four people that have dealt with us from
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  Vietnam because they denied so many claims that ended up
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  being real, like self cel sircoma was one of the
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  things where they said, oh, we didn't do that, that's
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  not from Major and Orange. It's like, are you sure
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  because he was in the pombat in the fields where
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  you sprayed it to kill all the trees, and they're like, yeah,
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  that's not on us. Then years later they admitted it
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  but said my mom filled out the paperwork wrong and
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  gave us nothing, and even ten percent of that's four
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  hundred grand, like it gave us nothing, dude. So it's
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  like I've dealt with that my whole adult life, where
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  I have a little piece of me. That's why I'm
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  not really like right or left. I'm very much like
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  fuck either side of this until somebody does something that
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  I actually believe in. And when I see the stuff
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  that's happening to so many people that fought, especially when
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  you find out about LBJ, the helicopters, all the other
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  bullshit that was the reason that we even went into Vietnam.
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  Speaker 1: The helicopters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, LBJ, from what I understand, had money in helicopters. Oh,
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  and was able to profit off of it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god.
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  Speaker 2: So and people say it's a conspiracy theory. But why
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  were we really there?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think the real reason was heroin.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was the real reason. I think
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  that's the real reason why we were in Afghanistan as well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I would assume, yeah, that's the poppy fields.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's the only reason. I'm
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  sure there's other there's military reasons. There's rare earth minerals
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  in Afghanistan, there's natural gas, there's a lot of resources
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  in Afghanistan. But there's a lot of heroin coming out
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  of there. That was at one point in time ninety
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  four percent of the Earth's heroin supply. It was coming
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  from the place that we were guarding. We were literally
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  guarding the poppy fields military US military guarding the poppy fields.
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  That was supplying heroin to ninety four percent of the Earth.
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  Speaker 2: That's insane because the other part is there's a part
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  in China like some of the Triangle trying to think
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  of it's what's it called. But the rest is Afghanistan,
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  and that's how you're getting every drug in the world
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  into the US as far as like, you know, actually
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  making opioids because in the nineties I worked in a pharmacy,
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  which was a great place for a drug addict, especially
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  when they weren't counting the pills. You could do it
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  by weight, so you just say like, hey, I gotta
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  go take out the trash and you just like open
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  up a bottle like valium or Percocets and just you know,
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  fill your cell of fane.
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  Speaker 1: The Golden Triangle, the remote jungle covered border region where Thailand,
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  Mian mahar and allow people's to democratic republic meet, has
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  been has seen an ex financial surge in the manufacturer
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  and traffic of synthetic drugs. Yes, so that's what it is.
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  It's the Golden Triangle.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking of that.
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  Speaker 1: I guarantee you that had a there was a major
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  reason why we were in Vietnam. There was so much
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  money coming out of there. And the idea that some
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  corrupt factions of either the military or the intelligence agencies
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  or whoever it is. So and not saying the agencies
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  or the military themselves, I'm saying corrupt factions because there's
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  always going to be those, just like when the CIA
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  sold drugs in South central LA to pay for the
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  conscience versus the Sandinistas. It's all real.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look at Detroit when you look at white Boy Rick.
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  White Boy Rick was somebody who was caught selling crack,
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  and you had Coleman Young, the mayor, who was pretty corrupt,
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  and then you had the FBI who caught them and said, hey,
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  here's some more crack. Just go into the city and
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  find out who the dealers are. Then when White boy
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  Rick got it brought in by the city, the FBI
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  was like, we didn't do that. We'd never put crack
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  into a black community. We don't know, We've never seen
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  this kid in our life. So this kid who's my
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  cousin's friend, White Boy Rick, ends up going to prison,
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  I don't know the exact time, for like thirty years.
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  He's like seventeen. They try to name him as a kingpin.
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  And again, he's a white boy in Detroit who's seventeen.
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  He's not a kingpin of shit. And he served the
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  longest time because Coleman Young was pissed he was dating
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  his niece. So he goes, he goes away, and then
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  while he's in jail, they have him sign a thing
• 17:31
  that said he stole a car so his sister didn't
• 17:33
  have to go to jail. So finally they let him
• 17:36
  out for all this wrongdoing that he never did. This
• 17:39
  sentence that was batshit, and then he has to go
• 17:42
  right from that jail to Chicago to serve time for
• 17:45
  stealing a car while he was in prison. His story
• 17:48
  is crazy. There's a documentary called White Boy, and it's one. Yeah,
• 17:53
  that's the one with McConaughey, which is a good movie. Yeah,
• 17:57
  McConaughey plays his dad. My uncle knew, knew the actual guy.
• 18:00
  He said he was like, he said, he was kind
• 18:02
  of a dipshit. He would sell guns very obviously out
• 18:05
  of his basement. They live like two blocks over.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So is this guy alive now?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, he's still alive. Yeah, he's he out. Yeah, he's
• 18:13
  white Boy Rick.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: That's him.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: That's him. Now. He got out just a few years ago.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: So he was in there for all?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Is he now?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. Well, he went in the eighties,
• 18:23
  so my god, and I think he got out around
• 18:26
  twenty twenty. So yeah, if you if you see the
• 18:29
  documentary White Boy, I highly recommend yes, see a teenage
• 18:33
  drug informant for the FBI, but then they denied ever
• 18:37
  talking to him.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Look at it, says above where the eminem picture is
• 18:40
  white boy Rick releases his own marijuana strain.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's the good thing about Detroit now, is it's
• 18:46
  all like insanely legal.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: That's funny. Yeah, Freeway Ricky Ross is doing that in LA?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Is he really?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Freeway Ricky Ross, who was selling the drugs that
• 18:56
  in LA that paid for the conscience versus the sandinist
• 18:59
  does that. He's got his own weed line. Now.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I know a few guys who were like heavy busted
• 19:04
  in the late nineties and now they all have stores,
• 19:07
  and it's just hilarious to me.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You would think that they would shy away from that.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: No, they just smoked even after I was like still okay.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But my saying is, my thinking is it's still federally illegal.
• 19:19
  It is like to open up a store and have
• 19:21
  about your primary source of income a Schedule one drug
• 19:25
  according to the government. It seems risky as fuck for
• 19:28
  someone's already been inside.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, it really well, it's odd that they could
• 19:32
  get the right like the permit for it, I know,
• 19:34
  or at least they know someone who got the permit
• 19:36
  for it and they work there, so maybe they shouldn't
• 19:38
  let up too much. Yeah their grandmother or yeah that's
• 19:42
  who owns the store is a ninety five year old lady.
• 19:45
  But if you go to parts too, it's like weed store,
• 19:47
  weed store, vape store, weeds store. You're like, I can't
• 19:50
  believe you pack this many into a block. Yeah, it's
• 19:53
  not like a liquor license that takes forever to get.
• 19:55
  It seems pretty easy.
• 19:57
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• 20:00
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  clicking the link in the description. I wonder if there's
• 21:22
  like weed store wars.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: There's got to be.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: There must be. They're fighting over profits, throw all on
• 21:27
  the same street together.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I was just in Albuquerque last weekend and they
• 21:31
  had the same thing where I'm like, So it's weed store,
• 21:33
  massage parlor, vape store, buy here, rent here, car lot,
• 21:38
  buy here, pay here, weed store, weed store, weed store.
• 21:41
  It's crazy how how legal it is in a state.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it all depends on the state.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Right in Texas, it's just medical and I think you
• 21:49
  have to have AIDS. I think I think you basically did.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they only wanted to give it to the bad
• 21:53
  bad aids.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: They're expanding that though, they're looking at expanding that. If
• 21:59
  the federal government just changed the designation or distinction or
• 22:03
  whatever you would say, it is like from Schedule one
• 22:06
  to Schedule three or something like that, which is reasonable,
• 22:09
  that's what they should do.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Well, the whole thing is ridiculous, and that's how you
• 22:13
  get organized crime. I mean, look at prohibition. Detroit was
• 22:17
  one of the first places to have it when it
• 22:19
  was three years before they actually made it nationally outlawed,
• 22:23
  and that gave birth to the Purple Gang, who Capone
• 22:26
  was even afraid of. And I mean those guys were
• 22:27
  fucking ruthless, and they would just go over to Canada
• 22:30
  because it was right across the river, and they would
• 22:32
  just either take a boat or in the winter they
• 22:34
  would drive. And of course they'd sent some underlink to
• 22:38
  drive to figure out how heavy the ice was, so
• 22:40
  they knew if they put that many kegs in a thing,
• 22:42
  you'd die. So there's just model t's at the bottom
• 22:44
  of the river. Really, yeah, dude, it's cool. A lot
• 22:47
  of the old mansions still have the tunnels that will
• 22:49
  lead out into the river that the boot lagers used
• 22:51
  to use. Wow, it's really fascinating.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So Canada never went prohibition, huh No.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And it was right there, like you could throw a rock.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You just take a drive at Toronto. Yeah, just go
• 23:01
  right to the party. Yeah, the new civilized person. Well
• 23:04
  they have legal weed up there too, Yeah, the country.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of that model tea.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: At the bottom of the river.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And this was a guy who's like, I got a
• 23:12
  whole bunch and then halfway that the ice went out. Yeah, dude.
• 23:17
  They were the Purple Gang was ruthless, man.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I never heard of that before.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: They were the first. They were probably the first Jewish gang.
• 23:24
  They had Irish members as well. They were the Bernstein brothers.
• 23:27
  Their parents owned a shoe store, and like the legend is,
• 23:29
  they were called Purple because that was the color of
• 23:31
  rancid meat. So they hated the name because they thought
• 23:34
  it sounded gay. But they still like, they still ran
• 23:38
  with it. But when you see pictures of them all
• 23:40
  lined up in like mugshots, like they they would do
• 23:43
  stuff like walk up to somebody and be like, hey,
• 23:45
  I like your ring any big thanks, And then a
• 23:47
  guy would just like cut the dude's finger off and
• 23:49
  he would take his ring like they were Like. The
• 23:52
  level of cruelty these guys would inflict on people to
• 23:55
  take over a city was next level. Wow. And they
• 23:59
  ever heard of this before? Yeah, dude, even even Capone
• 24:03
  wouldn't mess with him because he was over in Chicago
• 24:06
  and needed some of these guys to supply the liquor.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Wow. And the Purple Gang ruled Detroit. So is that
• 24:12
  a documentary where it says the Purple.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Gang they that might be they did a mob museum
• 24:18
  thing on and I went and saw in Vegas like
• 24:20
  that book right there, the Organized Crime in Detroit. That's
• 24:22
  a great book and it's got a lot of fun photos.
• 24:26
  But yeah, they were. They were as ruthless as you
• 24:29
  could absolutely get.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Go to that first picture in the upper left hand
• 24:32
  corner and make it big. Look out. Look at their phases.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, none of them are happy.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Those are hard looking dudes.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They had a rough, rough life. So a lot
• 24:44
  of them were just like stray kids that were Irish
• 24:47
  that were just abandoned by their parents. And then the
• 24:49
  rest were these Jewish kids whose parents owned a shoe store.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And I mean eventually they dismantled, the Italians took over,
• 24:59
  but you know during prohibition they ranged.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I've never heard of that before.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: It's a really cool story that I've always wanted to
• 25:07
  see in a movie, and nobody's been able to execute it.
• 25:10
  And I would love to see it because.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe somebody will know that you just got the story out.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I hope people do because it's such a cool story.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: It sounds crazy.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Like the level of Detroit mob too that's been around
• 25:21
  is just it's wonderful. I should say wonderful, but I
• 25:24
  love it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they were nice to my dad and stuff
• 25:29
  when he was young, and you know, like when he
• 25:31
  had gotten back from Noam and you know, they're just
• 25:33
  nice people that I knew, So nice people that kill people. Yeah,
• 25:37
  but you know I kill bad people.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But the thing he said that it's so important
• 25:44
  is that like prohibition all does is prop up organized
• 25:46
  crime and the fact that we still do it. It's
• 25:48
  just it's just for optics. It's just because people say,
• 25:51
  I don't want legal drugs on the streets and my
• 25:54
  kids getting hooked on drugs. Drugs are here, they're here.
• 25:58
  If your kids go club, if your kids go to
• 26:01
  a bar, if your kids are partying, drugs are there.
• 26:04
  They're a real thing. You'd be way better off if
• 26:07
  drugs were legal, and then you knew exactly what you
• 26:09
  were getting because these kids are getting fentanyl. Because I
• 26:12
  had this guy ed called around the other day who's
• 26:15
  an expert in the cartels, and he said they started
• 26:18
  adding fentanyl because they had grown so many poppies that
• 26:22
  the soil had been depleted, so the heroin was very weak.
• 26:25
  So to make the heroin more potent, they started adding fentanyl.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Is that what it was.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And the desire for all that stuff was all because
• 26:32
  of the Sackler brothers. So the Sackler brothers when they
• 26:35
  created this opiate crisis in America which did not exist before,
• 26:39
  where everybody's hooked on these fucking pills. Then they started
• 26:43
  cracking down the laws. So now you have a demand
• 26:45
  and you don't have a supply. And then along comes
• 26:48
  the cartel and starts making pills, and they start making
• 26:51
  pills with fentanyl in them because their heroin's not that strong.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Xanax, percocet, these things that kids don't know they're taking,
• 26:57
  that's the shit part.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So you're to make it look just like the real pill.
• 27:01
  I'll call I know what those are.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you get those pressed as zannies that just
• 27:05
  like a bar and it's just complete ventanyl. And I
• 27:09
  when I remember when fentanyl I shouldn't say first came out.
• 27:11
  It's been around, but it first started becoming it put
• 27:15
  it in products you weren't expecting, and I had like
• 27:18
  three friends die within a matter of maybe four months,
• 27:22
  and that's how I started noticing like, well, this is
• 27:24
  going to get serious. And now there's a site. See
• 27:27
  it's called every eleven minutes and that's when every every
• 27:31
  eleven seconds, and that's how long it takes for someone
• 27:34
  to ode on fentyl in this country.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So every eleven seconds the person is overdosing on Wow,
• 27:44
  and all because of our stupid loss. And I'm not saying,
• 27:48
  I'm not saying legal heroin would be good for everybody.
• 27:51
  It's not good to do heroin. I think everybody would
• 27:54
  agree to that.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, I did it before. Once was good?
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: What was it like? Did you shoot it or sort it?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I snorted it? No, sorry, I snorted it. And then
• 28:07
  I smoked black tar heroin and one time I shot it,
• 28:10
  so three Wow.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: What was the best one to shooting it? Yeah, that's
• 28:13
  why they do it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: That was that was majestic? Was it?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Was it?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Like the most calming, wonderful God, this sounds like I'm
• 28:22
  promoting it also with my voice, like it's the most calming,
• 28:25
  wonderful sensation you've ever read. You're gonna love the kids.
• 28:28
  It felt amazing, like you every problem you've ever had
• 28:32
  is gone, and you feel nothing but euphoria, which is
• 28:34
  different than like oxy and some other stuff which kind
• 28:37
  of just makes you feel, to me, loose and tired.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I mean this makes you tired. You're crashing out, but
• 28:44
  you're also getting a feeling that was really really like
• 28:47
  warm and exciting. Like I only smoke crack once on accident,
• 28:51
  and that.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Was how do you do that on accident?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: They put it in a joint, right, So we're sitting
• 28:55
  at my friend's back porch and he gives me first.
• 28:57
  He's on the joint and I hit it and it
• 29:00
  had like a weird sizzle and I hit it. I'm like,
• 29:02
  this is the best pot I've ever had in my life.
• 29:04
  And he's like, yeah, they gave me free crack and
• 29:06
  I was like, oh good, so I'm now high on crack.
• 29:10
  My other friends are pissed. They go and throw the
• 29:12
  joint in a sewer and I'm just sitting there like,
• 29:15
  and it doesn't last very long, but it felt really
• 29:17
  fucking good. Like I immediately would have done more crack
• 29:20
  had there been the option. But it definitely takes you
• 29:23
  over very quickly.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Did you ever see the Hunter Biden thing recently we
• 29:27
  did this interview was talking about how great crack is.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you spot on.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: It was the best ad for crack I've ever seen
• 29:33
  in my life. And you only did like one hit, right.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I did once and then I'm done, Like very rare.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But they threw it in the sewer. Did you want
• 29:41
  to go get it?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I wanted to go back to Wayburn where the street
• 29:47
  where we got it, and I was like, we should
• 29:48
  go get more crack. Guys, I don't know if you
• 29:51
  didn't feel this, but it's.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I think you're probably the No, you're not the first
• 29:55
  person I've talked to this shot heroin, but your first
• 29:57
  person who described it, Oh, it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Was my friend Jay had it and it was in
• 30:02
  high school.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it had to be better to get
• 30:07
  people to shoot it up. The only way to get
• 30:10
  people to that kind of commitment. Get a needle, fine
• 30:13
  a vein, get a fucking rope, tie off your arm.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It was awful that part. Yeah, And then then it
• 30:19
  was did you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Do it with a guy? Yeah, so he'd done it
• 30:22
  before he did for me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He died of a heroin overdose parents kitchen. Yeah,
• 30:27
  I know, you wouldn't expect it. He found his head
• 30:30
  between like the fridge and the stove, get stuck. I
• 30:35
  think he was either looking for something or collapsed right there.
• 30:38
  Oh boy, Yeah, it wasn't good. Nice guy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I knew this dude in the nineties. His name was
• 30:46
  water Dog. Okay. He was a professional pool player, like
• 30:50
  a really high level professional pool player, and he was
• 30:52
  a heroin addict, and he would go into the bathroom
• 30:56
  like I saw him play straight pool, which is this
• 30:58
  game where you just uning balls, like it's called fourteen
• 31:02
  and one. It's what they played in the Hustler. So
• 31:05
  you have instead of eight ball where the ball's in
• 31:07
  the center, you have a soft break where you're just
• 31:10
  trying to not scatter the balls very much. And the
• 31:13
  idea is to eventually someone makes a mistake and you
• 31:18
  leave an open shot, and that person runs out that rack,
• 31:22
  leaves one ball on the table, makes that ball and
• 31:25
  collides the cue ball into the rack and opens up
• 31:27
  that rack and then keeps going. And a really good
• 31:29
  player can run like two three hundred balls. So this
• 31:33
  guy was playing for ten thousand dollars in the nineties,
• 31:37
  so it's a lot of much. And I was broke,
• 31:39
  so I couldn't believe anybody could play pool for ten
• 31:41
  thousand dollars. This guy goes into the bathroom, shoots up,
• 31:45
  comes out and sits on this barstool like this, just
• 31:54
  sits there for like twenty minutes. Man just sat there
• 31:57
  and then we were all watching them. His arms were
• 32:00
  all curled up like this, and then he got off,
• 32:04
  screwed his cue together and never missed. When I say
• 32:08
  never missed, I mean it was the craziest display of
• 32:11
  pool I think I had ever seen at the time.
• 32:14
  He played like the greatest pool player that's ever played.
• 32:17
  He had no nerves, he couldn't be rattled. The guy
• 32:21
  he was playing, this guy, George the Greek, who's this
• 32:23
  degenerate gambler, was a really good player too, who's screaming
• 32:26
  and yelling at him. This motherfucker, he can't play without
• 32:29
  that shit. He's got a half that shit to play.
• 32:31
  He didn't give a fuck. He was listening to him yell.
• 32:34
  He had eyeballs. His pupils were like the size of quarters. Yeah,
• 32:38
  and he didn't miss. He just was firing balls in
• 32:41
  with like perfect accuracy. He got perfect position on every ball.
• 32:44
  It was wild to watch. He was just fully heroined up,
• 32:49
  just running out the table like he saw it in advance.
• 32:53
  Was like he was looking at a math problem that
• 32:54
  was easy to solve.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And he's just basically slow eddie and coming back and
• 32:58
  just knocking it all in like that's but it's never
• 33:01
  been like a performance enhancing drug. But to that guy.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: For nerves, Yeah, this is the thing. I think if
• 33:08
  you're a good point, if you're playing for ten thousand
• 33:10
  dollars and you're basically homeless. He was basically homeless, ye,
• 33:13
  I mean he would like sleep on people's couches, he
• 33:15
  would still. And so with a guy like that, you'd
• 33:17
  get a backer. So a bunch of gamblers would come
• 33:20
  in and then they'd come up with the money and
• 33:22
  then they'd go in with you and you'd get a
• 33:24
  cut of it. So if you won, maybe you get
• 33:25
  forty percent. They get sixty percent because they put up
• 33:27
  all the money, so it's a free shot at forty
• 33:29
  percent of ten thousand dollars. And for a guy like that,
• 33:32
  he's got no money. He's staying in flop houses. And
• 33:35
  he always had the same shirt on, like a throwaway
• 33:38
  sweater with a Christmas tree on it. Like he always
• 33:40
  looked like shit. I watched him play some of the
• 33:43
  greatest pool I've ever seen played in my life.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And this really tight pocketed table too. The table was
• 33:50
  like a real trick table. Table won at Executive Billiards
• 33:53
  and White Planes, New York. It was a trick table.
• 33:56
  It was like you got to be really good to
• 33:58
  play on that table. And that's why George I wanted
• 34:00
  to play him on that table because it was hard.
• 34:02
  He was used to it. That was like his home turf.
• 34:04
  He played on it all the time. And this motherfucker
• 34:06
  never missed Heroin do out of his mind. He had
• 34:09
  no nerves. He is Georgia like yell in his face.
• 34:12
  He'd be like, yes, nothing didn't feel a thing didn't
• 34:17
  feel a thing just never missed.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. There's no problem to you anymore. Yeah, no,
• 34:22
  it takes away every worry you have.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: So I ran into him years later. Okay, there's a
• 34:27
  pool tournament in uh So. This is when I was
• 34:29
  probably twenty three. I was living in New York, and
• 34:32
  then I moved to LA and then I'm like twenty seven,
• 34:36
  twenty eight now, and I'm playing in this tournament at
• 34:38
  hard Times Billiards. Hard Times was like the pool hall
• 34:41
  in the country back then, like all the world class professionals,
• 34:45
  all the Filipinos, the best players in the world.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: That all familiar, actually crazy place.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: It was an amazing place. I used to love going there.
• 34:51
  I'd play in the Sunday tournament. So I get down
• 34:54
  there and I see water Dog. I go, hey, man,
• 34:57
  what are you doing out here? Because he's a Connecticut
• 34:59
  guy from Connecticut. Yeah, and he's like, uh, I'm gonna
• 35:03
  play in the tournament, but I don't have any money.
• 35:04
  I go, I'll put you in the tournament because like
• 35:06
  it's like I remember what it was like fifty bucks
• 35:09
  or something for this guy. I'm like, you might win
• 35:11
  this fucking thing. He goes, but I gotta go get
• 35:13
  my shit. I go, okay, go get your shit. He goes,
• 35:16
  I need a ride. I go, where do you need
• 35:18
  to go? And he's like south Central. I'm like, I'm
• 35:21
  not driving you to south Central, LA so you can
• 35:24
  score heroiney Oh, you're fucking mine.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: It's like, don't worry, it's.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Just and he was like, dude, you won't get caught.
• 35:28
  I was like, you can't say that. I go. First
• 35:30
  of all, if you get caught, you know, they take
• 35:31
  your car. And I had a nice car at the time.
• 35:33
  I had a Toyota Supra. It's pretty excited about.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not driving my brand new Toyota
• 35:38
  Supra to fucking the crack house, right, buying heroin? This
• 35:46
  is crazy, but they arrest people all the time doing that.
• 35:48
  They take their cars those like the scam. They compound
• 35:51
  your car and then they auction it. Right. I was like,
• 35:54
  he's like, that won't happen. I'm like, you fucking what.
• 35:57
  So he I go, look, I'll put you in the
• 36:01
  tournament if you want to play, but I'm not taking you.
• 36:03
  I go, if you can get a cab there or something, go,
• 36:06
  So he just did it straight and he couldn't make
• 36:09
  a ball. It was really yeah, he lost two matches
• 36:12
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  Speaker 2: Did you beat for him to win?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: No? No, I gave him like whatever the entry fee
• 38:03
  was for the tournament. Oh I got you, Okay, but uh,
• 38:06
  you know I wasn't you know you.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Probably can not today. I don't think.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I was just like tired of him telling me
• 38:11
  to go to South Central get Heroin with him.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and that's a good way to get carjacked.
• 38:15
  On top of if it's just cops. I mean that
• 38:17
  was very popular to do.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: A little white boy who's on TV.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's how they got cars.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Not only that, it's the I would actually be buying
• 38:25
  the heroin doing fear Factor or No. This was during
• 38:28
  news radio, so I would be buying Heroin because I
• 38:33
  would have to pay for it because he didn't have
• 38:35
  any money, which is why he didn't have any money
• 38:37
  to get into the tournament. So like I would have
• 38:39
  to pipe, I would be buying heroin. Yeah in South Central.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Radio.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: There's no TMZ back then, so it probably wouldn't have
• 38:48
  even made the news. If I got arrested. No one cared.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's true.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, no one would have cared. I was,
• 38:54
  uh think it was Dick and let it go. But
• 38:58
  Dick was he getting in trouble back then? Not really.
• 39:00
  It wasn't making the news. Our show wasn't popular enough
• 39:03
  that anybody cared. And I was only one of eight
• 39:06
  people on the cast, so I wasn't a star. So
• 39:09
  I could go anywhere and every now and then someone
• 39:11
  would go, hey, you're that guy over that show. Hey,
• 39:12
  what's up? Okay, So it was pretty easy to get
• 39:15
  around back then.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Which is great if you're on an NBC show, I
• 39:17
  mean good or bad, but you're getting the money. Oh,
• 39:19
  I don't have to deal with all the shit.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Well, it was it was really good preparation for what
• 39:24
  I have to deal with today. Yeah, because it was
• 39:26
  like a slow trickle of fame to the point when
• 39:30
  when you get really famous, like, oh, I know what
• 39:32
  this is. This is a trick, right, like, don't don't
• 39:34
  get sucked into the trick. But back then, you know,
• 39:38
  So if I got arrested, it probably would have just
• 39:41
  been I would have probably had to do some time
• 39:43
  or something. I probably would have had to like plea
• 39:46
  out or do communities. I probably explained what happened. Maybe
• 39:49
  they listened to me. I'd like, please drug test me.
• 39:51
  I've never done heroin. Yeah, but even though you're still
• 39:54
  buying heroin, so it's still a felony.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Well, it was a time where they were more lax
• 39:59
  on all those laws too. I mean not lax, but
• 40:02
  lax with penalties, I should say, because it wasn't as public,
• 40:05
  because I mean even like Robert Johnny Junior, who I
• 40:07
  do greatly admire actually because I'm in recovery as well,
• 40:10
  But even with him, it's like you had to go
• 40:13
  into your neighbor's house and fall asleep in a kid's
• 40:15
  race car bed and people were like, you know, maybe
• 40:17
  you should do a little time behind bars.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was a repeat defender and yeah he
• 40:21
  you know, probably jail was a wake up call for him.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I love that guy too, and it's become Iron Man.
• 40:27
  So to watch that trajectory is absolutely astonished. It's incredible.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I wish I get him off that vegan diet though
• 40:33
  it looks like he's fucking wasting away.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't look good on anybody.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Real. No, you're trying to be kind, but you're just
• 40:40
  supporting monocrop agriculture, which kills more animals than anything. Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I don't want my superheroes vegan.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Well he's a nice guy, that's what it is. Nice
• 40:49
  people want to do kind things, and sometimes you get
• 40:52
  roped into a shitty decision making you getting all your
• 40:55
  protein from soy, and they're like, why do I have tits?
• 40:58
  Why am I lactating? Why am I always crying?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Very emotional all the time.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: And now they're banning lab grown meat, so like they
• 41:10
  can't even go to that, which I mean, it's good, right,
• 41:14
  I don't know. I don't know enough about the dangers
• 41:17
  of lab grown meat.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know I hate it beyond burger once because
• 41:21
  that's not that's horseshit. It was awful.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: There's a terrible Yeah, those they they're in trouble because
• 41:28
  those people, like their stockholders all fucking went crazy because
• 41:33
  they thought they were going to make money off that.
• 41:34
  They're like, this is it. We made it taste just
• 41:36
  like a burger. Everyone's gonna love it, cruelty free. No,
• 41:39
  it gives rats cancer. Oh good, you've ever seen this
• 41:43
  study on these because essentially it's just it's the most
• 41:48
  highly processed shit available. Look, if you want to be
• 41:51
  a vegetarian or a vegan or whatever, eat vegetables, eat
• 41:56
  organic vegetables. That's healthy. But when you want to ten
• 42:00
  that's something's a hamburger, it's a trans burger. You have
• 42:03
  to it has to go through a lot, just like
• 42:05
  a trans person has to go. Do you want to
• 42:07
  get a vagina? Guess what, you need general anesthesia and
• 42:12
  you have to have a guy who's gonna cut your
• 42:14
  dick in half and use an apple core to make
• 42:17
  you a vagina. And then you're gonna have to take
• 42:19
  a rubber dick and keep it in there so it
• 42:22
  doesn't close up.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting the patty that basically shoots up a school.
• 42:28
  It's all just filled with nonsense.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: It's bad for you. Yeah, it's all bad for you.
• 42:32
  And it's it's not even satisfying. It's fun. It's not good.
• 42:36
  Like when my friend Duncan you know Duncan Duncan trust Yes, yeah,
• 42:39
  he was living in North Carolina and uh he s
• 42:42
  sent me a picture during the pandemic. It's like, look,
• 42:44
  this is all it's available, and all the meat had
• 42:47
  been gone and it was just beyond burgers. That's all
• 42:51
  that was left. Everybody had bought all the hamburger, all
• 42:54
  the steaks, all the chicken, and it was just this
• 42:58
  fucking bullshit fake me.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because at the end of the day you
• 43:01
  kind of have to know it's bullshit.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I think in the beginning, like didn't Kevin Hart
• 43:07
  have a restaurant where he was just selling all vegan food.
• 43:11
  People do it because they think they're being a good person.
• 43:14
  That's what it is. Sure, I get it, I get
• 43:17
  I get the sentiment behind it. But just eat vegetables.
• 43:22
  If you really want to go that route, just he vegetables.
• 43:24
  But guess what, don't go that route. It's not good
• 43:27
  for you.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Well, no, we're not designed to do that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I have the healthiest diet obviously,
• 43:32
  but it's like, yeah, I like steaks, I like me.
• 43:34
  I just probably the only thing keeping you alive, probably
• 43:37
  the only thing I get.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a lot of dies.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I get a lot of migraines, a lot of dies,
• 43:43
  A lot of that red Red forty did they try
• 43:45
  to get rid of. Yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: That was another hilarious thing when RFK Junior was saying
• 43:50
  that they had to get rid of the red Die
• 43:51
  forty and they're like, well, if we do, what will
• 43:53
  happen to our business? Meanwhile, the same business is selling
• 43:57
  this same cereal to Canada without the die because in
• 44:00
  Canada it's illegal. Right. Oh.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: The amount of stuff that we looked at, like our
• 44:06
  entire breakfast as a kid was just cancer. That's the
• 44:09
  only thing they advertised on TV.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Die.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Just have a big sugary bowl of cancer and some
• 44:15
  toast with.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Diabetes too waiting for you. God.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was nuts to think the amount it
• 44:21
  because I'm just the microwave generation, Like, yeah, just throw
• 44:24
  that in the microwave. We can just pour a bowl
• 44:27
  of this shit the last forty five years in the
• 44:29
  cupboard for us as TV dinners.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a frozen TV dinner. You put it in the oven.
• 44:34
  The next thing you know, you're eating salisbury steak.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Yep, yem. And those wonderful potatoes.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those little fluffy potatoes they're in that little tin.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: And occasionally the worst brownie you've ever had.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It's not a good brownie. No. I used to love
• 44:46
  those little TV dinners. I used think it was a
• 44:48
  treat when we ate TV dinners.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's how it was at my house.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: There's no vitamins in that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: No, you never felt full. You felt gross, but you
• 44:58
  never felt full.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: This is the thing I mean, even the food pyramid,
• 45:02
  I mean, how crazy is it that in the twentieth
• 45:04
  century they had it totally wrong. With all the access
• 45:08
  to books, all the information we had about health and nutrition.
• 45:12
  They were so wrong. Even with the food. For the
• 45:15
  bottom of was all the shit that gives you inflammation?
• 45:18
  What the foundation? There's this inflammation causing bread.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Like what you need here is mostly wheat. You have
• 45:25
  to make sure you get eighteen servings a day of
• 45:27
  white bread with.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Bromate in it. You want to get a lot of that.
• 45:32
  You want to get a lot of folic acid sprayed
• 45:34
  on it and enrich flowers better.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's sugar that's in there for some reason. Two
• 45:40
  ounces of protein. Make sure you have a sugar dog everything.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Everybody had type two diabetes when I was a kid,
• 45:46
  they just didn't know it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well everybody's getting it now. It's still constant.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I know. It's there's never been a time where poor
• 45:53
  people are so fat.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: No, like starving people are obese. That's what's crazy. Like
• 45:58
  you can't get in your body, but you also have
• 46:01
  to sit down to get groceries and the carts or.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Go to Disneyland. Yeah, that's Disneyland is the place you
• 46:07
  find them all. Yeah.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And it's like why, like.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: They get the carts for you. They have carts set
• 46:12
  up there for you because it's a lot of distance
• 46:14
  you gotta cover, you do, Yeah, a lot of parks.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I just don't see the enjoyment of a ride. Well,
• 46:20
  I mean not the ride you get for free to
• 46:22
  go from ride to ride, but the actual ride. Oh
• 46:25
  I love rides myself, but if I weighed four hundred pounds,
• 46:28
  I may not enjoy it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Or yeah, that would take a lot of the love
• 46:32
  out of it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: It wouldnpecially if you're with your kid and the bar
• 46:35
  comes down and that one has no protection.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Right, the kids fucked kids to pop right off the
• 46:41
  top because you're so fat. Exactly right right, there's like
• 46:44
  this much of a gap.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: You've seen people and the kids like looking at his
• 46:48
  mom all nervous. Yeah, like real life, I get nervous.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: You should be terrified. I used to think that when
• 46:53
  I got on ski lifts, I'm like, this is crazy.
• 46:55
  I just let you sit on this thing way way
• 46:58
  way above the mountain.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, and people would fall off all the time. Yeah,
• 47:03
  because they think it would be funny to jump or
• 47:04
  what I after there was always woo bad wo. Like
• 47:09
  we didn't have mountains in Michigan, but we did have
• 47:11
  big enough hills. Like I went skiing. We did a
• 47:14
  lot of skiking when we were really young. And then
• 47:16
  I went down a it was like a double black
• 47:19
  diamond I think they're called.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I was like I got this and my ski got
• 47:22
  stuck in a soft mogul and I just went down
• 47:24
  it on my face. It looked like eight dudes beat
• 47:28
  the shit out of me. Like I was just like
• 47:29
  all scarred and bleeding, and then I just didn't ski
• 47:32
  much after that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I got a concussion a few years back, and I
• 47:34
  stopped skiing. I'm like, I'm done. I got a concussion
• 47:37
  and I got what's called an insufficiency fracture my shin.
• 47:41
  Some lady did not ski and she slid into the
• 47:44
  trail like sideways, like doing this thing. And I had
• 47:48
  two choices, either destroy this lady or wipe out hard.
• 47:52
  And I took the second choice and got a fucking
• 47:54
  I banged my head off the ground. Oh it was bang.
• 47:58
  I heard this and had a almanon, but it was still.
• 48:01
  The bang was loud, and I was dizzy for the rest.
• 48:06
  Got a concussion and I was I didn't feel right
• 48:08
  for the rest of the day. And then I was like,
• 48:10
  I'm done. This is not worth the thrill. Everybody I
• 48:13
  know has a torn acl from it a concussion. My
• 48:16
  grandpa died.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm sorry.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, but do they do though they all
• 48:22
  have stories.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they all have this, Like somebody knows a
• 48:25
  sunny bono like launched right into a tree of a
• 48:28
  mighty oak.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It's not worth it, no, dude.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I just never enjoyed it that much. And when I
• 48:33
  tried snowboarding, I'm like, I sucked at skateboarding and was
• 48:35
  a poser at that. Why am I even attempting this snowboarding?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You're attached to that fucker too. Skis, the skis.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Pop off, you can get away, the board's coming with
• 48:45
  you when you fall.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people got knocked out snowboarding
• 48:49
  because the feet go up in the air, you know,
• 48:51
  like if something happens, if feet go up in the
• 48:53
  air and your head first.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Dude, my son does it, and he's ten and I
• 48:58
  let him, but he's he's pretty good at it. But
• 49:00
  I always get very nervous when he goes to do it.
• 49:02
  But he's good with I mean, he's a very good athlete.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: The good thing is little kids have less weight and
• 49:08
  when they're falling, it's not as painful, and then they're
• 49:10
  all flexible and plyable. To dude, he.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Broke his arm. It was crazy and he was better
• 49:16
  in like it was like eight days. It was like Wolverine.
• 49:19
  It's like, how did you how did you do this?
• 49:21
  Like I tore my was it meniscus? ACL blew off
• 49:25
  half my kneecap. Oh, and yeah, I was making fun
• 49:28
  of my friend and then he tackled me and we
• 49:32
  were on a linoleum floor with keg beer.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Oh no.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: So instead of instead of going to the hospital when
• 49:39
  it was in a lot of pain, I'm like, I'll
• 49:40
  just wait till the morning. And I had my friends
• 49:42
  carry me around this party. And then the next morning
• 49:45
  I'm like, yeah, this isn't moving at all. So my
• 49:47
  friend Jimmy drove me to the hospital and dude, it
• 49:50
  was like out of a like sitcom, Like doctors opened
• 49:53
  up a door into my leg. He wheeled me into
• 49:55
  a drinking fountain on accident, like I broke my leg
• 49:59
  more just trying to get into the hospital. And then
• 50:02
  by the time I got in for them to do
• 50:05
  the surgery, they're like, what happened? I couldn't be Like
• 50:07
  I was drunk at my friend's, you know. I was like, oh,
• 50:09
  I slipped on ice. It was winter. I was walking
• 50:11
  to my car, and they're like, this is a lot
• 50:13
  of damage for just slipping on ice because I just
• 50:16
  twisted it all night and I should have known. I
• 50:18
  mean my foot was like behind me, oh god when
• 50:21
  I did it, like my knee just as so I
• 50:23
  have rods in my right knee, so I just try
• 50:26
  have rods to keep it together.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, it was that bad.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you can hear it pop sometimes when I walk.
• 50:32
  It's pretty nice. This is hurt, uh sometimes, but not
• 50:36
  not as bad as you think it would. If I'm
• 50:38
  like doing a treadmill for a long time, or if
• 50:41
  I do something where we're just outside, like because I'll
• 50:43
  go hiking or whatever next. My wife likes it, so
• 50:46
  we'll do that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: But I like it.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: That'll hurt after maybe a couple miles, but not like
• 50:51
  a severe pain.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: But it's annoying. Yeah, that's fine.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can like weather messes with it in
• 50:57
  the sense, but nothing crazy.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Is there an option to take those rods out, because
• 51:03
  I know a lot of them. They put him in
• 51:04
  there so that the bones heal correctly, right.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there might be. I mean it's been twenty five years.
• 51:10
  I'm sure there's been advancements in it, and I just
• 51:12
  don't bring it up at your.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Bones are just grown around it.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: My own, I'm sure it's destroyed probably Like why didn't
• 51:18
  you come in? And like you didn't bring it up either.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know a guy who broke his arm and
• 51:22
  the screws from the plate that kept his arm together
• 51:25
  popping through his skin. So he had had another operation.
• 51:29
  They opened up his arm again and took the plate out,
• 51:31
  and because the arm it healed like the bones, it fused.
• 51:34
  But then the plates and the screws started backing out.
• 51:38
  That's through his skin, poking through his skin.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: That's what happened to my son, and it sucks. He
• 51:43
  was like six and him and his friend were hanging
• 51:45
  out at his friend's house and they had like a
• 51:48
  slide that was eight feet in the air, and they
• 51:50
  both decided to jump off of it. Oh god, and
• 51:52
  he landed funny. And he's a little kid. So I
• 51:55
  was at my friend's mom's funeral, I like rushed back
• 51:57
  to get it's the worst thing in the world when
• 51:59
  it's your kid is the worst. But yeah, we made
• 52:02
  sure like he got the screws out, he got the
• 52:04
  right like everything went fine. But the way that dude,
• 52:08
  it was honestly like he they cut the cast off
• 52:11
  like two weeks before they were supposed to, because he's like,
• 52:13
  I can go like this, like that's amazing, because I
• 52:17
  remember I would like go to bars still and I
• 52:19
  was still underage, but I was still going to bars
• 52:21
  with like a cast on. Oh boy, like a full
• 52:24
  blown knee brace, and you know I'm wearing like track
• 52:26
  suits and like I had chains and kid. Yeah, so
• 52:31
  I just like just started like a raver Stoner and
• 52:34
  I'm just walking around with my crutches.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: How long did it take before you could walk again properly?
• 52:42
  About six months? Now? Every now and then I do
• 52:46
  walk with a limp because it just kind of goes out.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Does your friends still feel embarrassed by this?
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I know, it's one of those guys
• 52:54
  you've known for so long. It's he didn't care then
• 52:59
  and I was saying stuff to him the kindest I
• 53:01
  deserved it, so like, I mean, he he felt really bad.
• 53:05
  I shouldn't say that, but no, it's not anything. The
• 53:08
  girl who owned the house went nuts, and she was
• 53:10
  so hot and I always had a crush on her,
• 53:12
  and she's like, your family's gonna sue me. I'm like,
• 53:14
  my family's not gonna sue any They didn't sue people,
• 53:17
  but we're not gonna sue you. And like my I
• 53:19
  think my dad had passed at that point, and she's
• 53:21
  like so freaking out cause she would have these wild
• 53:23
  Christmas parties every year where it happened and that ended
• 53:26
  the wild Christmas parties. And she's like, yeah, you never sued.
• 53:29
  I'm like, yeah, why would I sue? Because I'm stupid,
• 53:32
  like it's it was my fault. And then I just
• 53:34
  went out and said, yeah, it fell on ice.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Isn't not a gross thing that people would just sue
• 53:38
  if they did something stupid in your house? They would
• 53:40
  sue you, dude.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I've never never, like I can understand points where people have.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: It's just such a scammer mentality.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: It's a shit thing to do to anybody. It's like
• 53:50
  somebody who like slips delivering a package or any of
• 53:52
  that stuff that's possible.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: There's a lady that was when my kids were younger.
• 54:00
  There was this lady that was a single mom and
• 54:03
  her daughter was playing with my daughter and you know,
• 54:06
  they'd come over the house and she went out to
• 54:08
  another person's house and you know, like they'd have play
• 54:12
  dates like kids do, and she wasn't there. So she
• 54:14
  comes to pick up her daughter and they have a
• 54:17
  dog and the dog is very friendly dog, and the dog,
• 54:20
  you know, they jumps up to like you know dogs
• 54:23
  do that, of course, and scraped her with its claws,
• 54:26
  just scraped her with its class. She sued the family
• 54:29
  for fifty thousand dollars and they just settled. They settled
• 54:33
  because the dog, they were informed, listen, legal fees is
• 54:36
  going to be probably one hundred thousand dollars. She wants
• 54:38
  fifty thousand dollars. So this fucking asshole. All a dog did,
• 54:43
  dog nails, just scratched her a little bit, not even
• 54:45
  like bleeding, nothing crazy, just normal. Oh, your dog's crazy,
• 54:50
  like where you and I would be like, what a
• 54:52
  cute dog. Right, she was like, ooh, opportunity to sue
• 54:55
  this family that's wealthy.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Especially the fact that that's just what they do, and
• 55:00
  it's I remember when we were young, there were two
• 55:02
  pit bulls that were at this house behind a camp
• 55:05
  we were at, and this one kid was always throwing
• 55:07
  rocks at him, and we were like, you shouldn't do
• 55:09
  that because we'd like the dogs. And the camp had
• 55:12
  its own Golden Retriever and it was fine with the
• 55:14
  pit but they'd run on the fences and stuff. So
• 55:17
  that's when I first even started getting used to dogs
• 55:19
  when I was young, becuse i've always liked dogs, and
• 55:20
  I have to and I've had tons, But I remember
• 55:24
  that the pit bull once the kid stuck his finger
• 55:26
  through the fence, took off these two parts, these two
• 55:30
  tops of his finger, and like they sued, they put
• 55:33
  the dog down, and we were like, he's been chucking
• 55:36
  rocks at those things all summer, Like he's been antagonizing
• 55:39
  these animals all summer. And I mean, it sucks that
• 55:42
  it happens.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: But it's like, sucks to your kid stupid too.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks that he was told not to do
• 55:47
  it a bunch of times and then there was a
• 55:49
  consequence did this shitty action?
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Also, how did you raise a kid that's throwing rocks
• 55:53
  at dogs?
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: What kind of a kid would throw rocks at a dog?
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: It's like the first thing you find that had unconditional
• 56:01
  love for you. It's the first thing that like, you
• 56:03
  trust in a different way than a human.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Did he have dogs?
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: There's no way he did. I don't remember him well.
• 56:09
  I remember the blood and the screaming, but I don't
• 56:14
  I don't remember much about him other than shakes afterwards. Yeah,
• 56:18
  I knew his penmanship wasn't very good after all.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Stubs, Yeah, yeah, man.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does. Nipples are tricky dogs though, my
• 56:28
  brothers had ones where yeah, he's a bunch of them.
• 56:32
  He's rescued a couple and I've had friends who have
• 56:35
  saved them in Detroit from fights where because they would
• 56:38
  throw them in a back alley the losers and sometimes
• 56:41
  my friends would take them and get him sewn up
• 56:43
  and keep them. But those dogs specifically, it would kind
• 56:46
  of only be left alone for the owner, Like my
• 56:50
  friend would keep it just for him, like lockdown.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Well, they're usually fine with people. The real issue with
• 56:56
  pitbulls is dogs and children. They think of children as animals.
• 56:59
  They don't know that a child is a person, at
• 57:02
  least it seems like they don't because they attack.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Kids well, and children don't know dogs are animals sometimes,
• 57:08
  And that's kind of how I treat with my kids,
• 57:11
  Like you have to understand that, right, you know, like
• 57:13
  when you're rough housing or whatever, like there's a yeah,
• 57:16
  I would be real careful because she might not necessarily
• 57:19
  know what you're doing, you know. And he learned that
• 57:21
  at a young age. And dogs love him. But a
• 57:24
  lot of times kids can be really really rough with dogs.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can be, sure, especially if they don't grow
• 57:30
  up with them, they don't know. They're not taught. But
• 57:33
  the thing is, like, if you have a sweet dog,
• 57:34
  like I have a Golden Retriever. Yeah, and if my
• 57:36
  kids thought all dogs were like my dog, and then
• 57:39
  they went up to another dog and grabbed his face,
• 57:41
  that dog might bite your fucking face off.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and goldens are the best. They're just designed to
• 57:46
  be the sweetest animals on the planet.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: He's the nicest dog of all talk, the best pet ever. Yeah,
• 57:51
  he's just just the homie. You come home, he's like
• 57:54
  he no wags is he always has to greet you
• 57:56
  with a toy. Like as soon as I come in
• 57:58
  the house, he grabs one of his toys and runs
• 58:00
  up to you with a toy.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: It's the nicest feeling in the world.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the sweetest dogs. He cuddles with me when
• 58:05
  I watch TV. He climbs up like literally like lies
• 58:09
  in my lap. You know, he's seventy five pounds. He
• 58:11
  puts his fucking head on my chest and he just
• 58:13
  likes to be pet while I'm watching TV.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just want to be with you. Yeah, it's
• 58:17
  the nicest thing. And I you know, I had a Rottweiler.
• 58:20
  Then people are afraid of those. But she was the
• 58:21
  sweetest dog.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of it is how you treat them. Yeah,
• 58:24
  but it's also the breed. It's also the bloodline. Like
• 58:29
  if you get a game bred pit bull and you
• 58:31
  expect it to be cool with other dogs, you're out
• 58:33
  of your fucking mind. That dog is designed to fight dogs. Yes,
• 58:36
  you know. But if you get a good dog and
• 58:39
  you train them well and teach them, and you know,
• 58:41
  it takes a lot of responsibility, you know, like people
• 58:44
  that want out and get like a German shepherd or
• 58:45
  a Belgian malamoa and keep in the yard like, oh,
• 58:49
  you just literally got like an elite super athlete for
• 58:54
  a pet, you know, and you just think you just
• 58:56
  gonna leave in the yard and occasionally throw the ball
• 58:59
  to it. Fuck out of here somehow.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: You never walk it. So it's got a bunch of
• 59:03
  pent up anger and energy exactly good for you.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: It's like a high school kid that's been left in
• 59:08
  a confined space.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, see how it works when he comes out, Yeah,
• 59:12
  into the real world. Bring him to a dog park.
• 59:14
  Oh yeah, yeah, did you see that video of the
• 59:18
  dog parks? Some of them.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: What video.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: There's one video where a guy his dog is attacking
• 59:23
  one dog and some dude runs up out of nowhere
• 59:26
  and just shoves his finger and one dog's ass. Oh
• 59:29
  that works, Yeah it did, but it was still the
• 59:32
  most ridiculous thing I've Like. This guy just runs in
• 59:35
  like he thinks he's Superman, is like, I've got it,
• 59:37
  and just starts.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Well, if a dog has a lock on another dog,
• 59:40
  that's one of the only ways to let him go.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Is it is?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: It works?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I hear it works. I've never done it, but I've
• 59:45
  never hoses work. When dogs would fight with each other,
• 59:50
  you could hose them a lot of times they let go. Yeah,
• 59:53
  they just freak out. You're getting hit in the face
• 59:55
  with a jet of water.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that will do it.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: But you know, the really fucked up thing is that
• 1:00:01
  people bred dogs for fighting, and they liked to fight.
• 1:00:04
  When they fight, they wag their tails.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're having fun.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: That's what's crazy. Yeah, you watch them like literally chewing
• 1:00:10
  each other's faces off and they're wagging their tails.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I got a border Collie at the same time
• 1:00:15
  as a Rottweiler, and they were both pretty you know,
• 1:00:18
  they both enjoyed fighting each other fun but always yeah,
• 1:00:22
  and you'd always just watch for the tail waggling because
• 1:00:25
  they'd be flipping each other over. And like when we
• 1:00:28
  first got the rot, we went to a dog park
• 1:00:30
  because they were like newer to us in Michigan, and
• 1:00:32
  this one dog just kept coming up those bigger than
• 1:00:35
  my rot, but kept kind of like messing with her.
• 1:00:38
  And then finally my rot grabbed her by the neck
• 1:00:42
  and flipped this dog over and was just like pinning
• 1:00:45
  it with her mouth. And then the dog gave up
• 1:00:47
  and was showing its belly and I'm like, oh, fuck,
• 1:00:50
  Like we're gonna leave the dog park now.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: People were like freaking out and screaming, but the dog
• 1:00:55
  kept like coming up and like nipping my dog until
• 1:00:59
  my dog finally like attacked back real quick.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what dogs do. They have to establish dominance.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: That's what she did.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I was at a dog park once and somebody brought
• 1:01:08
  a wolf.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Are you seriously?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the wildest thing. All the dogs, all
• 1:01:14
  the dogs immediately knew it wasn't a dog. Well, yeah,
• 1:01:16
  some guy had one of those seven eighth timber wolf dogs.
• 1:01:19
  You know, because you can get them dogs where they're
• 1:01:21
  not really dogs. It's a wolf. And this thing just
• 1:01:24
  walked in and every dog was like, that's not a
• 1:01:28
  fucking dog. They all scattered. It was wild to watch.
• 1:01:32
  It was big too, man, it was really big. It's
• 1:01:35
  like one hundred plus pounds and just big fucking mouth,
• 1:01:39
  big long mouth, and it just looked like a wolf.
• 1:01:43
  And every dog knew it wasn't a dog because wolves
• 1:01:47
  eat dogs. They knew, yeah, they fucking there was a
• 1:01:51
  thing like the smell, the look, whatever. Every no dog
• 1:01:54
  was sizing up with it at all. Every dog just
• 1:01:57
  ran away. It was weird. Well, they they have.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: That instinct and that thing is like what dogs like.
• 1:02:04
  That's like if a caveman walked in, right, you know
• 1:02:07
  what I mean? Like that's the original og of what
• 1:02:09
  we're supposed to beat, right, this is not a wolf.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've seen this video. This video is wild.
• 1:02:15
  So there's all these dogs are fighting, okay, and check
• 1:02:18
  out this one dog walks in and he's the fucking
• 1:02:20
  boss and he's this dog. Look, all the other dogs
• 1:02:23
  back the fuck away from a battles. Look, they all
• 1:02:26
  back away this one dog and he gets on that dog, Like, look.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: What happens every one of them just acts right, It's
• 1:02:33
  like John Wick of dogs.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Look at this. The dog just lays down and he
• 1:02:38
  just gets on top of them.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: This dog kill one of us with a pen.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what kind of dog that is.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know either the black one. It's got to
• 1:02:45
  be the white one, the one that's dog one right there.
• 1:02:48
  I mean the black one was cowering. That was like
• 1:02:51
  the wrong dog.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Well, why don't you take a photo of that dog
• 1:02:55
  and run through Google image.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: The dog looks like Benji like they probably just was crazy. Yeah,
• 1:03:00
  it's probably just knew. They knew it had a hard life.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: My friend has a dog like that. That's a small
• 1:03:06
  it's a darker like a gray and brown dog.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And he takes a pig hunting and it's the most
• 1:03:11
  savage fucking dog I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: And it looks like that. Yes, this dog just chases pigs,
• 1:03:17
  which is crazy.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Are tough? Oh yeah? But this dog is just nuts man, dude,
• 1:03:24
  that's fun. What kind of dog is that? Come on?
• 1:03:26
  Chack GBT A mixed or a breed or a mut
• 1:03:30
  based on appearance, shaggy, wiry coat, body strike. How crazy
• 1:03:33
  is Ai wolfhound or terrier mixes. Large size and sturdy
• 1:03:37
  build might also suggest some Central Asian shepherd or Kangle ancestry,
• 1:03:42
  especially if the dog is used as a livestock guardian. However,
• 1:03:45
  without a clear look in more contact like the dog size, weight,
• 1:03:48
  or behavior, it's difficult to definitively identify the breed. It's
• 1:03:53
  likely a mix of working or guardian breeds common in
• 1:03:56
  rural or semi rural areas.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing they just knew had it tough because
• 1:04:02
  it just came into didn't get Fuck, it's.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Not even a big dog. That's what's crazy, Like yo,
• 1:04:08
  But that was kind of what it was like. When
• 1:04:09
  that wolf showed up at the dog park. All the
• 1:04:12
  other dogs were just like, what in the holy fuck
• 1:04:15
  is this?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: You?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I think you were talking about it? Maybe what I
• 1:04:18
  don't know, but it's about a guy who trains wolves.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: And I've had people on that work with wolves. He
• 1:04:24
  can't really train wolves.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, but I think it was like the movie
• 1:04:28
  The Gray, you know, like taking taken with wolves or whatever,
• 1:04:31
  and like he said, deering it that he has to
• 1:04:36
  fall down as the stuntman or whatever. So the second
• 1:04:38
  he gets home one of the wolves is going to
• 1:04:41
  try to take his spot on top. So you got
• 1:04:44
  to like grab the wolf and hold it up in
• 1:04:46
  the air, and like that's like the main thing to
• 1:04:48
  do to get it to stop. But like every night
• 1:04:50
  he just has to prepare himself for fighting a wolf
• 1:04:53
  when he gets home. Oh Jesus, which is crazy, that's
• 1:04:56
  so stupid. But I mean they all just they're pack animals.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: You leave, they take the dominant spot.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a good day of filming and there's
• 1:05:05
  just this wolf looking at you the whole car ride home,
• 1:05:07
  seeing if he's gonna take like your ship once you
• 1:05:10
  get home.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I knew a dude who had three of those three
• 1:05:12
  of those wolf dogs, and he was a piece of shit,
• 1:05:14
  and they got out of his yard and killed the
• 1:05:16
  neighbors sheep and he lied about it. He's like, mine
• 1:05:21
  killed like eight sheep, dude, Yeah, because they just killed
• 1:05:24
  for fun. Yeah, Like, oh, there's just sheep that just
• 1:05:28
  commit suicide. Mountain lion, what did this?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Well, there's coyotes and stuff that though no, no.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: No, that kind of damage. Coyote would have a hard
• 1:05:37
  time taking out sheep. It would take a long time.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they grab small dogs like like before COVID,
• 1:05:43
  we like in Detroit and like the suburbs, we never
• 1:05:46
  had coyotes like it seemed like any of that stuff.
• 1:05:49
  And then after you see him all the time, like
• 1:05:52
  I would walk out and there just be like a
• 1:05:53
  deer in my front lawn. I'm like, this is bizarre
• 1:05:56
  in this part. And then yeah, now you have ones
• 1:05:59
  that like hop fan says and grab small dogs jump away.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, they're everywhere. Now they're in every fifty
• 1:06:05
  They're in all fifty states. And then they're they're in
• 1:06:07
  every major city.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a wild animal. I'man a really interesting animal.
• 1:06:12
  I should say. Obviously they're wild because.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: When I first saw him, they'd be crossing the street
• 1:06:16
  at night. I'd be coming back from a gig and
• 1:06:18
  I'm like that is that a dog? Should I stop?
• 1:06:20
  And then it's clearly just a coyote. Yeah, And I'd
• 1:06:23
  never seen them up close like that. Ever. They're in
• 1:06:25
  Central Park, Are you serious?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to walk by there all the time.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: That looks like what it is that was similar Bosnian
• 1:06:35
  broken broken haired hound called Barack. Yeah, it looks similar
• 1:06:42
  fights bears. That makes sense. That makes sense.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be it, That.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Would make sense. Why all those dogs are like this
• 1:06:48
  motherfucker's not playing.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Dude, he takes down grizzlies.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: He is not playing large game es a scentound. Yeah,
• 1:06:57
  that's what my friend's dog looks like. It's a little dog.
• 1:07:00
  It's a girl, and she's fucking ferocious.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And just hasn't Yeah, a pig and a bear.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pigs are like wild pigs are some of the
• 1:07:11
  most ferocious sounding animals. I remember the first time I
• 1:07:13
  Ember went hunting pigs. We were going down this dirt
• 1:07:17
  road until the right of us was like heavily wooded,
• 1:07:20
  like high grass, and they were in the grass near us,
• 1:07:24
  and then they started fighting and it sounded like demons,
• 1:07:27
  like orcs. They were just going to war, like like
• 1:07:34
  maybe ten fifteen feet from us, and we couldn't see
• 1:07:37
  them because of the tall grass. Like the sound was nuts, Like,
• 1:07:41
  this sound is insane.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Where do you hunt them?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: This was in California, Okay, California, where, oddly enough, they
• 1:07:48
  think most of them came from William Randolph Hearst's estate,
• 1:07:53
  because William Randolf Hearst, the same piece of shit that
• 1:07:56
  you know orson Wells covered in the movie Rose Bud,
• 1:07:59
  the same reason marijuana became illegal. That guy William Randolph
• 1:08:03
  Hurst had an enormous estate and he had wild out
• 1:08:07
  there on his estate, and of course they got free.
• 1:08:10
  And now central California all that area is like San Jose.
• 1:08:14
  They have a giant problem with them.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they like show up on people's lawns and tear
• 1:08:19
  their lawns apart. And you wake up in the middle
• 1:08:21
  of that, just ten wild pigs in your fucking front lawn.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. Yeah, they attack animals then, oh yeah they
• 1:08:26
  kill people really yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: So one one old lady got killed by wild pigs.
• 1:08:31
  What a way to go, I know, fucking dirty, filthy
• 1:08:36
  demons tearing your face off.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Not that it's funny, but I mean you just don't
• 1:08:41
  expect it kind of funny, you know. But yeah, they're
• 1:08:43
  all had a grammar.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Go.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: You're likely she was torn to death by pigs, wild
• 1:08:47
  ones in her suburb with.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: This place that I was at. They you know, they
• 1:08:52
  they hunt them a lot, and that's what we're doing.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: They taste good, yeah, I would imagine, I mean it
• 1:08:57
  is pork.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different kind of It's like a darker meats. Yeah,
• 1:09:02
  I've never had Yeah, because they're you know, they're not
• 1:09:04
  eating just grain, they're eating whatever the fuck they find.
• 1:09:07
  And a lot of acorns. That was a lot of it.
• 1:09:10
  They had a lot of fat on this from acorns.
• 1:09:11
  They were delicious.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: What do you hunt them with?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: That time was a rifle, But I'll hunted them.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I was wondering if you did.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bow hunted pigs. But the thing is, like,
• 1:09:19
  if you're bow hunting pigs and you're shooting a wild boar,
• 1:09:22
  like a big boar, probably shouldn't have a backup, Probably
• 1:09:25
  should have a pistol in case it comes at you,
• 1:09:27
  and you should probably have one in the chamber so
• 1:09:29
  as it's running at you, you can just say you're gonna
• 1:09:32
  have to I'll charge you. It happens all the time.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of because bears are like that, aren't
• 1:09:37
  They Like, if you're shooting in the heart, it'll go
• 1:09:39
  one hundred yards.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Some bears, Okay, if you shoot them in the heart
• 1:09:44
  of doubt, they're going to go one hundred yards. But
• 1:09:46
  they might be able to because they can get They
• 1:09:47
  can go one hundred yards.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Pretty fast just on adrenaline.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, Bears.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Are gonna say adrenochrome.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: If you hit a bear, like there is a distance
• 1:09:59
  between you and them where it's like a fight or
• 1:10:01
  flight distance where they're too close where they think that
• 1:10:04
  you'll attack them, and so then then you're in trouble.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But if.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: They're far enough away where they think, oh, this guy's
• 1:10:11
  not gonna chase me, and you can scare them off,
• 1:10:14
  that can happen. Bears are a tricky yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: I've never well, we had one bear. I mean it
• 1:10:20
  wasn't hunting us. We were just up in what do
• 1:10:23
  you call them, the Smokies, and it was just a
• 1:10:26
  vacation and it says don't throw food off the balcony,
• 1:10:28
  So of course the first thing my son does is
• 1:10:30
  throw a hamburger and then all we can here's the
• 1:10:34
  woods start moving and we look down and I'm like,
• 1:10:37
  there's a bear and it's it. I didn't know they climb.
• 1:10:42
  So the thing starts climbing up the side of the
• 1:10:44
  house and eventually we just kind of made enough noise
• 1:10:48
  or something that it went back into the woods. But
• 1:10:49
  I'm like looking around, like we have a gun, right,
• 1:10:52
  And I was like, I think we have one, Like oh,
• 1:10:54
  that's good because there's a bear climbing up the fucking house. Dude.
• 1:10:58
  It was terrifying.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: If you have food left out, if you have garbage
• 1:11:02
  left out. Once they've established it, that's a place where
• 1:11:04
  they get food, they keep coming back.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I was. Yeah, and the first thing he
• 1:11:08
  did was just chuck a hamburger out to feed the animals.
• 1:11:11
  And I'm like, Buddy, I told you, he's like four
• 1:11:13
  or five at the time. And then like cover minutes
• 1:11:16
  later bear.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know the state that has the most
• 1:11:20
  bears per capita in the country? No, New Jersey?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Is it really?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? New Jersey has a crazy bear problem.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I did not know that it is.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: So the governor of New Jersey ran on a platform
• 1:11:32
  of stopping the bear hunt because people hunt bears in
• 1:11:35
  New Jersey. Because people think of New Jersey. Well, you
• 1:11:37
  think of these high density areas like Hoboken, Hackensack.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Atlantic City.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: That's not New Jersey. New Jersey's mostly rural.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: And then you have those actual like mountains.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Oh huh, yeah, yeah, Well a kid got killed out
• 1:11:51
  by Rutgers a bear ate them and yeah, Rutgers University
• 1:11:54
  student went for a high got taken out, and bears
• 1:12:01
  became such a problem that the same governor who ran
• 1:12:05
  on the stopping the bear hunt and did stop the
• 1:12:07
  bear hunt when he get in office, the population boomed
• 1:12:10
  so badly without hunters that he reinstated the bear hunt.
• 1:12:13
  Oh diddy, Yeah, he had to. The interactions between humans
• 1:12:17
  and bears were going through the roof.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: I was really hoping that story ended with he got
• 1:12:20
  eaten by bears because that would be just the perfect irony.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Well, he probably had an encounter. A lot of people
• 1:12:26
  that live anywhere near them have encounters. Like there's a
• 1:12:28
  video of Far Rockaway in New Jersey. We played it
• 1:12:31
  many times on this podcast, but we'll play it again
• 1:12:33
  just for you, okay. But there's these fucking bears. They
• 1:12:35
  look like four or five hundred pound bears, and they're
• 1:12:38
  fighting in the middle of a suburb and they're essentially
• 1:12:42
  they're going to war for garbage. So like you know,
• 1:12:46
  they claim either that or maybe one of the females
• 1:12:48
  is in heat. But there's these two fucking huge bears
• 1:12:52
  and they're falling downstairs and they're out in the street
• 1:12:56
  and the people are filming them from their car. These
• 1:12:58
  are big bears.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Right, brown bears, black bears.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: They're all black bears in the United States until you
• 1:13:04
  get into the Upper Northwest and then you see you
• 1:13:08
  get it. You only get grizzlies in like so, look
• 1:13:11
  at these bears. Holy shit, yeah, bro, fucking normal house
• 1:13:15
  support sign out there. The size of these fuckers, dude,
• 1:13:20
  they knocked over the sign there. Whatever that was. That
• 1:13:24
  was a light I guess, like the electrical horse. Yeah, yeah, bro.
• 1:13:28
  It spills out into the street. These guys go to
• 1:13:30
  war for like ten minutes. How long is this video?
• 1:13:33
  Six minute video? Look at this They get out in
• 1:13:35
  the show med that when they're out in the street,
• 1:13:37
  so people are filming them. These fuckers tumble down the
• 1:13:40
  side of the hill. They're still duking it out.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: I've seen them come down the street and yeah in
• 1:13:47
  the same yeah, same place.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Size of these guys, man, look at that right by
• 1:13:52
  the mailbox. Look at all the hair pulling each.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Other's hair out, and they're crazy well do and that's
• 1:13:57
  just because they're claws on accidents.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Size of these fuckers.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Imagine that goes across your face.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: You're so dead. Those are big bears too, man, Dude.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: That guy's so nervous, but its Volvo. It's like, come on,
• 1:14:11
  don't don't go near it.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: These people are so used to it, these people who
• 1:14:14
  live in this area.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Dude in a car just was like,
• 1:14:20
  all right, we gotta wait for it to ye fall
• 1:14:22
  into the shrubs and then I'm gonna gun it.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Hear those noises they make. Imagine your little kids walking home.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: From school sees two bears.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: And see two fucking huge bears.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: And this is a Jersey Yeah, far away.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Look at here the cars.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, look.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Cars driving my whole Hi, guys, I'm gonna go get
• 1:14:45
  a sign. Watch.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we have bears now far rockaway?
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Holy yeah, dude, Yeah, that does not have the most
• 1:14:52
  black bears per capita.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: Googling it, it's not even popping up in the top
• 1:14:57
  five or six.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I would imagine for a human pop makes its high
• 1:15:01
  bear population a significant concern for residents, particularly in the States. Dude,
• 1:15:05
  Ted Nugit told me that I think these people are wrong.
• 1:15:08
  The state's forest covered northwestern regions and one of the
• 1:15:11
  highest concentrations is of black bears in the nation, with
• 1:15:13
  approximately three thousand bears.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Did if Ted NuGen told you that, I think he's right, Yeah,
• 1:15:19
  the guy knows the thing or two.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: High population density concentration in the Northwest increased sightings. The
• 1:15:26
  other problem is they really don't have an accurate number
• 1:15:30
  because in heavily wooded areas, when you want to do
• 1:15:33
  like a census on animals, you're sending out wildlife biologists
• 1:15:37
  and they just have to count them, and there's no
• 1:15:38
  way they can really count them correctly because there's you're
• 1:15:41
  dealing with dense woods, and black bears are particularly difficult
• 1:15:45
  to find in the woods. Their sense of smell is insane,
• 1:15:49
  their hearing is insane, and when they hear people, they
• 1:15:51
  just get the fuck out of there.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like in Michigan, you've seen them, like they come
• 1:15:55
  down because you know, we're up by the Upper Peninsula
• 1:15:58
  and they'll come you know, Canada and all that stuff.
• 1:16:00
  But you do see them on occasion. But I guess
• 1:16:04
  they are becoming more and more like they're moving more
• 1:16:07
  and more south towards the cities now of course because
• 1:16:10
  nobody's hunting them. Yeah, which I think we should.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to hunt them.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's why you control the deer population.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that's what people have always known and
• 1:16:20
  you know, somehow or other liberals lost their minds and thought,
• 1:16:24
  there's a bad idea to control predators. Yeah, massive, huge predators, right.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: And it's like you realize that, like, let's just say
• 1:16:33
  the deers alone. If you don't control it, you just
• 1:16:35
  have people smashing into them with their cars.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: All that they're made out of food right for you
• 1:16:41
  to eat. You could go eat them. Deers are delicious.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: And if you've ever been in front of like one
• 1:16:46
  with horns, like I was in the rockies, my friend
• 1:16:49
  was all high. He gets out of the cars like
• 1:16:51
  twenty years ago, and there's like, I don't know, it
• 1:16:53
  wasn't maybe it was a deer, but like an elk
• 1:16:55
  or something.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Ak.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah is it big? Yeah?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Really big?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: And he gets out like he's like, I'm gonna stand
• 1:17:01
  by and take a picture. I don't think you should
• 1:17:03
  do that even then, like terrible idea, and the thing
• 1:17:06
  just lowers its horns at him, and I'm like, dude,
• 1:17:08
  get get back to the car. And we're looking a
• 1:17:10
  jeep gunning it away from this thing chasing us.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Is a guy that is in his car and he's
• 1:17:16
  talking ship to this elk that's in the in the street.
• 1:17:18
  In Yellowstone and it fucking jabs his tires and takes
• 1:17:22
  his tire out. Just doesn't even know it fuck here
• 1:17:29
  because it punctures his tire.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: It just took him out the way the cops would
• 1:17:34
  like trip and then it's just getting ready to take
• 1:17:38
  you out and just stabbed his tire. It's like, you
• 1:17:42
  want to step outside now.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: The scariest ones are moose, if you ever what's that
• 1:17:48
  is that? You have the video of him taking out
• 1:17:49
  his car's Oh boy, look at the size of that fucker.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Dude, you have a tree growing out of your head,
• 1:17:57
  a sharpened tree.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for the tire to poke it. I don't know
• 1:18:09
  if this is the one that cut the tire. The
• 1:18:12
  other one was coming from the other side. It was
• 1:18:13
  coming from the driver's side and the driver was talking
• 1:18:15
  shit to it. But you get the point.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I like, the driver was mocking an animal.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: But the real dangerous ones are moose. Yeah, because moose
• 1:18:22
  will actually stomp you. Oh, they will go after you.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of videos of people who think they're
• 1:18:27
  majestic and they're like eight feet away from them, and
• 1:18:29
  it's like, it's not Bullwinkle, it's an animal. In the
• 1:18:32
  word and then the next thing you hear is how
• 1:18:34
  they were killed.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just that. It's an animal that's like
• 1:18:37
  really good at stomping at Oh boy, is this this
• 1:18:42
  guy get attacked?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Sometimes you just don't.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Dude, If I get an arrow, you gotta you really
• 1:18:48
  gotta not miss.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well this is rough too, because he's coming straight
• 1:18:55
  at you, and so you don't have a really good
• 1:18:56
  shot at his vitals. So you have to take the
• 1:18:58
  most risky shot with which is you're taking a frontal
• 1:19:04
  So what you're essentially you have a very small area
• 1:19:07
  of targeting, which is like the end of his beard,
• 1:19:09
  so his hair comes down, like you want to get
• 1:19:12
  it right here. So what you're trying to do is
• 1:19:14
  shoot this arrow through basically like a softball sized hole,
• 1:19:20
  maybe a little larger than a softball sized hole, and
• 1:19:22
  it'll go straight through, slice through the heart, the lungs, everything.
• 1:19:25
  It's the most deadly shot if you could land it right.
• 1:19:28
  But you got a eighteen hundred pound animal.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Coming at you're shaking.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: It's huge, you're right in front of it, it's thirty yards.
• 1:19:38
  You're not sure that you could hit that spot because
• 1:19:40
  your arms are shaking, you're filled with adrenaline.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: And you have to go for a softball sized spot.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that thing, you really want it to be standing sideways,
• 1:19:50
  but it's not standing sideways because it's moving towards you
• 1:19:53
  in an offensive way. You should probably just get the
• 1:19:54
  fuck out of there.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: I would leave immediately, or get around a tree.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: You want to get like where a tree is, so
• 1:19:59
  you can stand behind the tree and like at least
• 1:20:01
  you can kind of maneuver a little bit.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Is their sight poor?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't have a good sight, So.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: That's kind of like the better way is they're.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Kind of dumb because they're so big, they don't have
• 1:20:11
  to be smart. Yeah, you know, and they don't. They
• 1:20:13
  don't have herds. They're not like you don't see herds
• 1:20:16
  of moose. You see a bull moose. They're generally by
• 1:20:18
  themselves or maybe with one or two other ones.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I did not know.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: And then they come in. And when they come in,
• 1:20:23
  they're looking for pussy.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: You have a moose fucking you in the ass.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, staring right at your door.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, end with those eyes.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: And you also you better have a fucking powerful bow.
• 1:20:36
  You got to get into that rib cage. Those ribs
• 1:20:39
  are thick as shit.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: So that spot is underneath that like beard and all
• 1:20:43
  that stuff that he's got right there.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: It's right all but if you hit an animal there,
• 1:20:48
  they die so quick. See Google frontal shot kill on elk.
• 1:20:56
  There's a famous video of these kids bow hunting. Elk
• 1:21:00
  comes in and it gives his kid a frontal shot
• 1:21:02
  and he takes it at like twenty yards and the
• 1:21:04
  elk just stands there and then blood starts spraying out
• 1:21:07
  of it and it just tips over really right where
• 1:21:09
  it stands. It's nuts. It's the most lethal shot if
• 1:21:13
  you land it correctly, but it's I'd never taken it.
• 1:21:16
  It's a tricky shot. Like my friend Cam Haynes, probably
• 1:21:19
  the best bow hunter in the world. He's taking frontal shots,
• 1:21:23
  but the last time he took what it was like
• 1:21:24
  at ten yards. This isn't it. This is this is
• 1:21:29
  not a frontal These are just Bill's fighting Google. This
• 1:21:33
  is an elk oh insane frontal shot. Okay, all right,
• 1:21:39
  so here we go. This isn't the one.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Well, nothing came up when I checked the thing.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: He just said, So that's it. He got it right there.
• 1:21:47
  So see see how sprays. That was a perfect shot. Oh,
• 1:21:51
  perfect shot. He got it right. If you watch where
• 1:21:53
  the impact is, Oh that's Corey Jacobson. Watch where the
• 1:21:58
  impact of the arrow is. It's right at the bottom
• 1:22:00
  of the beer and see where it is, like, right
• 1:22:02
  at the bottom. That's perfect. It's a perfect shot. So
• 1:22:05
  that goes into the body, cavity, severs all the arteries.
• 1:22:09
  That bull's dead in seconds.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: But this animal seems kind of crazy. Yeah. It doesn't
• 1:22:16
  seem as aggressive though as that moose.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, they're not aggressive. They're looking for
• 1:22:20
  other elk. He's looking for love. Yeah, that's what he's
• 1:22:23
  looking for, looking for love or a fight.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because the moose looks like he just wants
• 1:22:28
  to kill the guy in the video, or at least
• 1:22:31
  they'll kill you.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: They will kill you. I mean, I'm sure elk have
• 1:22:35
  killed people before, but they don't want to. Moose will
• 1:22:37
  chase you. Yeah, moose will chase you and stomp you,
• 1:22:40
  especially a female moose that has her babies. That's all right,
• 1:22:44
  you better say the fuck away from her. Yeah, no,
• 1:22:47
  they will stomp you out of My buddy was chased
• 1:22:49
  on horseback. He barely got away from a cow.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Moose seriously going after him.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, going after him because it had calves with him
• 1:22:56
  with her. Yeah, and she was protecting her calves and
• 1:22:59
  he was on a horse and she looks at that
• 1:23:01
  horse like that's that might be an animal. It wants
• 1:23:04
  to stomp my babies, and so she full clip chased
• 1:23:07
  after him. He's like, I barely got away. Where is
• 1:23:09
  this at Edmonton? No BC?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah makes sense? Yeah, that's crazy. Hey, I don't know.
• 1:23:18
  I would. I would be terrified if I had to
• 1:23:20
  try to make that shot at a moose coming at
• 1:23:22
  me that size.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: It's a sketchy shot. Capacity, it's a sketchy shot, and
• 1:23:26
  it depends on what kind of broadhead.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: You have to can you do with a gun?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, Oh with a gun, you could shoot
• 1:23:31
  him anywhere?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's true.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: With a gun, you just you go through the shoulders.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: I just don't know if it was like maybe arrow
• 1:23:37
  length or the reason it sticks in or something maybe.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, you should You could definitely
• 1:23:41
  do that with a gun. The thing about an arrow
• 1:23:44
  is you only have so much energy, like from a bow.
• 1:23:49
  So if like you hit one of those big shoulder bones,
• 1:23:52
  like you're you're fucked. It's not gonna kill the animal,
• 1:23:55
  probably barely gonna feel it. So you have to be
• 1:23:57
  behind the shoulder. You have to and then you know,
• 1:24:00
  if you don't have enough power, if you center punch
• 1:24:02
  a rib, probably not gonna get a lot of penetration.
• 1:24:05
  So you have to have a really powerful bow and
• 1:24:07
  a lot of guys stay away from mechanical broadheads. They
• 1:24:10
  want like a really solid fixed blade broadhead. It's tricky
• 1:24:15
  kind of bow hunting.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool though.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: You're bow hunting something that can kill you.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is that's game. I mean, that's the exciting thing.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: That's why people like bear hunting.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Or unless you're the grizzly Man guy who just is
• 1:24:29
  one of my favorite movies ever, because it's just.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: I'm convinced Werner Winner Herzog made that movie as a comedy.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: Oh I think he did too. Yeah, I'm surprised, Like
• 1:24:40
  he says, the ending is not the real footage.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: No, there's no, there's no actual audio footage of that
• 1:24:47
  guy that's available. If you listen online footage that says
• 1:24:51
  it is, it's not real. You can kind of tell
• 1:24:53
  their acting. He told the lady to destroy the actual audio.
• 1:24:59
  The lens cover was on the camera, but there is audio,
• 1:25:02
  and it's a long audio because bears don't kill you.
• 1:25:05
  They just start eating, right, Yeah. They just hold you
• 1:25:08
  down and eat you until you die.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Which is apparent to that guy who was going around
• 1:25:14
  elementary schools telling people how bears aren't dangerous.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that fucking guy.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, it's hibernation season, you should go,
• 1:25:20
  and he's like, no, but I got peanut and sprinkles
• 1:25:23
  and cocoa and they all love me. He had all
• 1:25:25
  these little names for him.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: It was suicide by Bear.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you can't just hang out there
• 1:25:30
  with it. Was That whole movie is just they said,
• 1:25:33
  like I love when they're like we think they think
• 1:25:35
  the bear like the bears just thought he was basically retarded.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, remember when the sheriff said, that's well, I thought
• 1:25:43
  he was retarded. Yeah.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I think there's just the.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Way the film is made. It's just there's too many
• 1:25:49
  times where someone says something ridiculous and there's a smash cut.
• 1:25:52
  I'm like, this guy's doing this on purpose, like he
• 1:25:54
  wants you to laugh. It's funny.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be because he's like slapping a bear on
• 1:25:58
  the nose and he's like no skittles, and then just
• 1:26:00
  turning around and doing the interview and you're just waiting
• 1:26:03
  for him to die. Basically, to be a.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: Warrior, I have to I have to let them know
• 1:26:07
  I stand my ground. I love you, I love.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: You, love you be. I'm a warrior and it's gonna
• 1:26:12
  put my tent in here. This is gonna be what
• 1:26:14
  you'll consider a plate, and I'm just gonna hang out.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: It's a brito this meet inside. His girlfriend got killed too.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Which is really I'm surprised that. Yeah, she had a one,
• 1:26:26
  he had one and two.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: She was like she was probably surprised too, Yeah this
• 1:26:30
  guy gonna fuck me or is this Yeah?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Like I'm sure he didn't fuck her. He didn't seem
• 1:26:35
  like that kind of guy. He definitely had her killed.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: He definitely seemed gay. Ye. It seemed like that was
• 1:26:40
  part of his dilemma, Like he wanted to be an
• 1:26:42
  actor and that didn't work out for him. So he
• 1:26:45
  started getting notoriety by being a bear expert, right, But
• 1:26:48
  he wasn't really a bear expert.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: No, he was just an idiot who would go into
• 1:26:51
  the forest.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: And heart protecting these bears.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: He's really lucky.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Bar Service, I want to protect him, you motherfuckers. I'm
• 1:26:57
  protecting these bears. You leave them at But that dude
• 1:27:02
  got some amazing footage. I'll tell you that his footage
• 1:27:05
  was fucking incredible because he was living with them, so
• 1:27:09
  he got footage that nobody else was getting, like high
• 1:27:11
  resolution close up footage of bear fights. He became really
• 1:27:15
  good friends with the fox. Foxes are fucking adorable. They're
• 1:27:19
  like dogs, man, they are the closest thing to dog. Like, playful,
• 1:27:24
  they play with you. They stole his hat, like yeah,
• 1:27:26
  they would come hang out with him. He could scratch
• 1:27:29
  their head. Well.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: A lot of the people who find baby foxes and
• 1:27:32
  then just kind of raise them because the Karens left them.
• 1:27:34
  That's amazing.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: There's an Instagram page that I follow Bedoo the Fox.
• 1:27:40
  Check this out. It's like a little tiny fox that
• 1:27:43
  this guy's raised, and it's so adorable. It's so adorable.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: This really is cool.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Here is so this guy brings this fox with him
• 1:27:54
  every look at that cute little fox.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: He's so cute. Yeah, they're adorable, but stuff, he's playful.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: But this this guy has this fox as a pet,
• 1:28:06
  and you know, and to see show the things where
• 1:28:08
  he's like cuddling with it, like he's look at it.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a straight up a little buddy.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there a door. It's like an adorable little dog.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: The reponds are kind of funny too, and it just
• 1:28:19
  like learns how to open the fridge.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: He's walking the leash. He has to put on a
• 1:28:25
  leash because the fucker won't come back. No, no, I'm free.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: He's like, this is where I belong. He's just trying
• 1:28:31
  to run from the guy. But he's on a face
• 1:28:34
  the huge ears incredible that.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Then probably hears an owl farting a Miley who had
• 1:28:40
  his face so fucking cute.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, they really are. They're really cool animals.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and people have done this where they raise them.
• 1:28:48
  But yeah, I think it's weird faces. I think it's
• 1:28:51
  one of those things where you have to be around
• 1:28:53
  him all the time, you know.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if it's I guess, I don't know,
• 1:28:58
  but if it's abandoned young enough to wear, it's attached
• 1:29:00
  to you, there's something there.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you definitely can raise them. People have raised them,
• 1:29:05
  and people have raised coyotes that same way too. Oh yeah,
• 1:29:07
  but you you have to be around them all the
• 1:29:09
  time because they're wild. Ye, Like you're just tricking them
• 1:29:13
  into like by constantly giving them food and attention so
• 1:29:16
  they feel like they don't have to do anything else
• 1:29:18
  that they really feel instinctual about doing, like going out
• 1:29:22
  and killing a cat.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well there's a there's a place called Oswald's
• 1:29:26
  Bear Ranch.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's got a cat. His cute little fox is
• 1:29:30
  like half the size of the cat. He wants to
• 1:29:32
  play with the cat. It's adorable. The cat is not
• 1:29:37
  like happy though. You see a cat with its tail
• 1:29:40
  like that, that's a really pissed off cat.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: Well, the cat doesn't want to play with its owner,
• 1:29:44
  let alone whatever that thing is.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Well, the cat looks like it's yeah, cat's fat as fuck.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was actually a male cat does not identify
• 1:29:53
  that way anymore.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: School shooter. It's going to go to the pound, shoot
• 1:29:58
  it up.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: Just going to take out everybody at the pet store. Yeah,
• 1:30:01
  just after the other.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: The story of wolves, like how we turn wolves into
• 1:30:06
  dogs is pretty fucking He's saying.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: It is amazing how we do just kind of have
• 1:30:10
  these like wolves in our house, but we made them
• 1:30:13
  cuter by design over centuries. We're like, this is my
• 1:30:16
  uh my wolf poodle, which is essentially what it is.
• 1:30:20
  It's incredible.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Well, and then you get them down to like I
• 1:30:23
  have a King Charles Spaniel. You know what those things are? Ye,
• 1:30:27
  he's that big. Yeah, he's the bug and cutest thing
• 1:30:29
  on earth that if you go far enough back, that's
• 1:30:32
  a wolf. Oh yeah, how did they do that?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: I have a King Charles's Spaniel poodle.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Ah, and King Charles Spaniel wasn't gay enough exactly.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: I had to make sure he wears bow ties, you know,
• 1:30:47
  like a wolf would bow ties his haircut. They put
• 1:30:53
  them in a bow tie.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: That's a door and I'm.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Just like, it's so cute, but it's also the.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Case that's adorable.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, his name is Higgins and he's the best dog.
• 1:31:02
  But he's small and I've always had big dogs and
• 1:31:04
  I kind of just like the fact that he's kind
• 1:31:06
  of small and just really wants to sit. There was
• 1:31:09
  a chill, he'll go for a walk, but he's not
• 1:31:11
  dying too.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: Uh. The breed, the furthest remove and physically characteristic by
• 1:31:16
  wolves is the King Cavalier, King Charles Spaniel.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mine's Mine's called the Kavapoo.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: That's the one I have.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a mix of that and a poodle.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: The Cavalier ching King Charles Spaniel, one of the most
• 1:31:26
  popular breeds in the UK and USK, probably because of
• 1:31:29
  their lapdog reputation.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're adorable dogs.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love sweet.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: I love them.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: And that's the furthest removed physically and characteristically from a wolf.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it has. I mean he's he's funny, Like he'll
• 1:31:41
  grab his toy. He's got this lamb and he'll just
• 1:31:43
  like jump in the window at giant dogs and just
• 1:31:45
  start shaking it and like try to intimidate them.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: In a fucking little bow tie. He looks so gay.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to play with them because mine, my dog
• 1:31:54
  loves to play with Marshall, my golden dude. It's best friends.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very playful. Yeah, yeah, because we have a
• 1:32:01
  I'm just gonna announce all the one dogs that I
• 1:32:03
  have and feel worse as this goes. I have an ease.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: What's that.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: It's like a little we don't have the long hair
• 1:32:10
  cut on it, but you know those long hair like
• 1:32:12
  almost show dogs. Okay, and it's uh yeah, just to
• 1:32:17
  have an these people. Oh wow, but we have see
• 1:32:20
  the like top right corner, she looks like that. So
• 1:32:25
  that's the other dog and she's the best and she's insane,
• 1:32:28
  like yeah, not the smartest dog you eve for meat.
• 1:32:32
  And that's one of the things I love about her.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, they don't have to be smart. No, it's like
• 1:32:36
  rich kids on trust funds. The don't so smart either.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They are the most privileged of the dog community. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:32:42
  there's no doubt.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: Also, yes, that's all the day them, is there, not
• 1:32:47
  poor kids.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: No, Well, we're the ones cutting off their balls and
• 1:32:50
  spaying them, right, Yeah, they're all too right, they're Yeah,
• 1:32:53
  they're all a little angry at us.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: My dogs have their balls?
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: Oh do they really?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Always? Yeah, I don't. I don't. Don't fix my dog.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: We had already had him fixed when we got him.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I had a really good vet when I first moved
• 1:33:05
  to LA and I always thought, you have to fix dogs. Yeah,
• 1:33:07
  because you're like Bob Barker spand new to your pets. Yes,
• 1:33:11
  Bob Barker. Yeah. After at the end of every show,
• 1:33:14
  turn your pets trans How about this. Don't be irresponsible
• 1:33:17
  dog owner and let your dog have puppies that nobody wants.
• 1:33:20
  How about you just be a responsible dog owner and
• 1:33:24
  let your dog have its natural fucking hormones. Yeah, because
• 1:33:27
  when you cut their balls off, they get tired, they
• 1:33:29
  get depressed, they have no energy. What happens to people
• 1:33:34
  when their testosterone goes, you get depressed, You get depressed,
• 1:33:37
  and you have no energy. That's the same shit that
• 1:33:38
  happens to your dog.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's why he's in a bow tie.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: And my vet was he told me that. I was like,
• 1:33:45
  I can't believe he goes. Look, nobody wants to hear it.
• 1:33:46
  Everybody wants to tell you span new to your dogs.
• 1:33:48
  But characteristically, like if you look at like how a
• 1:33:51
  dog behaves, I see you change the moment they cut it. Now. Look,
• 1:33:54
  if you have an overly aggressive dog, that's a different story.
• 1:33:58
  If you have a dog that like you, you probably
• 1:34:00
  should train. That's probably what it is. Probably needs obedience
• 1:34:04
  training and probably needs a lot of attention, and probably
• 1:34:06
  needs a lot of exercise. But if you cut your
• 1:34:08
  dog's balls off, it won't be the same dog.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: No, And I mean the next dogs I have. I
• 1:34:13
  probably won't, you know, but it's just something that you're
• 1:34:16
  used to for so long. And like with Bob Barker,
• 1:34:17
  I get control of the pet population so there's not
• 1:34:20
  dogs running all over the streets that have to be
• 1:34:21
  euthanized all the time. Yeah, but if it's terrible, if
• 1:34:24
  it's your own dog though.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: But again, that's just bad dog owners.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: It's just like people are bad parents and their kids
• 1:34:31
  wind up, you know, joining a gang and shooting people up.
• 1:34:35
  It's like it's a lot of the same kind of shit.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: Man, it's the same. It's literally the same thing. I
• 1:34:39
  mean when you like years ago they were doing articles.
• 1:34:43
  Not to bring it back to my hometown, but like
• 1:34:45
  in Detroit where you would see dog gangs roving together,
• 1:34:49
  they take over a house and like you know, they
• 1:34:52
  I remember one house was like filled with pit bulls
• 1:34:54
  and stuff, but it was a black lab that was
• 1:34:56
  like the king shit at this house. Really Yeah, it
• 1:34:59
  was crazy and but probably the smartest one. I think
• 1:35:02
  that it must have been that because like when like
• 1:35:04
  Rolling Stone, I think it was showed up and they
• 1:35:05
  were like, holy shit, it's a black lab that's in
• 1:35:07
  charge of like all these pit bulls and that was like, oh,
• 1:35:10
  they're king and but probably.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: They're good hunters. Maybe that's what it is. Well, because
• 1:35:16
  you do labradors are hunting dogs.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true because like you would see just
• 1:35:21
  packs of dogs going down the street when it was
• 1:35:23
  at its most like empty.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: God. I heard about a lady that got killed by
• 1:35:27
  a pack of dogs in Georgia a few years back.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Oh they'll do it.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wild dogs who was hiking and feral dogs attacked her.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a rough way to go. That's terrible,
• 1:35:38
  rough way to go because there's probably a minute where
• 1:35:41
  she's like, oh dogs, I doubt it, Yeah, I doubt it. Now,
• 1:35:45
  most people do get scared.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah they should.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're on like a mountain, if.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: You don't know the dog, like it could be anything.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, never go up to a dog the way that
• 1:35:54
  people tell you that you should.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Put your hand out. Yep, I'm your friend.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Like i'm your body.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: It's just stand there, stand the ground, yeah, look at it,
• 1:36:03
  keep an eye and hopefully have a gun. Yeah, hopefully
• 1:36:09
  have a guy.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: I just shot your doodle. I overreacted. But yeah, there's
• 1:36:13
  those once you can't it's problem. Yeah.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah, when you just stand there and kind of
• 1:36:17
  let the dogs smell you, that's what they do. That's
• 1:36:20
  they just want to get to know who you are,
• 1:36:22
  so let them and they just kind of, yeah, keep
• 1:36:24
  an eye, don't act scared. Well you shouldn't do is
• 1:36:26
  run and start screaming.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they like that. Yeah, they it's fun.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: They think it's a play.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are time to play. They're gonna kill you
• 1:36:34
  and have fun. Yeah, yay, like this is we got
• 1:36:36
  a screamer boys. As if there's not enough problems in
• 1:36:43
  the world, you gotta worry about roving packs of wild
• 1:36:46
  dogs taking folks.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: Out, and bears fighting in your cull to sec You
• 1:36:50
  don't see that.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: They're trying to bring bears back to certain states. Now
• 1:36:53
  they're trying to reintroduce grizzly bears. These fucking dorks.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: Why did they reintroduce animals that went extinct in an
• 1:37:00
  area for a reason.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Well, they didn't go extinct, they were made extinct, right
• 1:37:06
  like California. California has a grizzly bear on his flag.
• 1:37:10
  There's no grizzlies in California because they killed them all
• 1:37:12
  because they were killing all these people. The last guy
• 1:37:15
  that got killed in California by grizzly bear, they actually
• 1:37:19
  named a town after him. Really lovech California is named
• 1:37:23
  after him. It was murdered by It was na Stephen Leveck.
• 1:37:26
  He was the last man in California to be killed
• 1:37:28
  by a grizzly bear before they killed them all.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: Are they trying to bring them back to California.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they are.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Oh that's smart.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Look, they brought wolves back to Detroit. They brought wolves,
• 1:37:38
  excuse me, Detroit, Colorado. They brought wolves to an area
• 1:37:42
  of Colorado that's right outside of Aspen. And people are
• 1:37:46
  losing their fucking minds because they brought these wolves that
• 1:37:50
  they had captured in Oregon because they were killing cattle,
• 1:37:53
  and then they reintroduced him the Colorado where they wait
• 1:37:57
  for it, killed cattle. They've been killing cattle like crazy.
• 1:38:00
  They brought him out to like these ranching areas and
• 1:38:04
  there they've killed so many cows out there. Man. I
• 1:38:06
  have a buddy who has a ranch out there, and
• 1:38:08
  he sends me pictures all the time of these cows
• 1:38:10
  that they find just torn apart, like baby cows, calves.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: Just ripped the shreds. Yeah, well they did the same.
• 1:38:18
  I want to say it was like near Dollywood. Didn't
• 1:38:21
  they do that too, where like wolves had finally gone
• 1:38:23
  away in that area.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: In the mountain Wood.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: Where's Dollywood, it's near It's in Tennessee near wolves. I
• 1:38:30
  think they tried to reintroduce himself any red wolves. Yeah,
• 1:38:33
  Like I took a tour through the forest, like I
• 1:38:35
  had to go. I didn't want to go. Wasn't my thing,
• 1:38:37
  believe it or not.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: But I went.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: We went as like a family trip, and you know,
• 1:38:43
  it's it's terrible, and somebody recognized me and that was
• 1:38:47
  the worst. Is that like a fake Doc Barton show?
• 1:38:51
  If are you Dave Landoun, I'm like fuck really now? So,
• 1:38:55
  but we went through the forest and they were saying
• 1:38:58
  that they were reintroducing animals into that area, and it's like,
• 1:39:02
  why would you do that? And I guess they had
• 1:39:04
  just taken down like a Crispy Kream because like bears
• 1:39:07
  just destroyed it.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Well, that wouldn't be reintroduction that area of the bears
• 1:39:11
  have always been there, Okay, But if they're reintroducing a wolf,
• 1:39:14
  it has to be the red wolf.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: The red wolf is endangered and it's a small wolf.
• 1:39:19
  It's a wolf that's like maybe the size of a
• 1:39:21
  large coyote. Yeah, they're red wolves are returning to the
• 1:39:24
  Smoking Mountain there you go. Yeah, yeah, but it's like
• 1:39:27
  that that photo is a little deceptive. When you see
• 1:39:29
  a red wolf, they're pretty small. Like what is the
• 1:39:33
  average size of a red wolf? Google that, Jamie.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that picture of the bear walking, We saw
• 1:39:40
  that a lot just walking down like while we were there.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're going to see a lot of bears and
• 1:39:43
  they'd be like fifty to sixty pounds.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be like tumbling like cubs and stuff forard
• 1:39:48
  down this down the road.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: It's like a red wolf. It's probably you know, it's
• 1:39:51
  a fifty pound animal. Okay, so they're not they're not
• 1:39:54
  a gray wolf. Gray wolves are.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Fucking scary, terrifying. Yeah, yeah, they're big. Yeah, I would
• 1:39:59
  not want to go. I don't know. That's a scary
• 1:40:02
  animal anytime I've seen one. They just don't look friendly
• 1:40:05
  and I don't.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they killed them off for a reason.
• 1:40:09
  The reason why. I mean, look, little red riding hood
• 1:40:12
  fucking there's all these stories with kids where they get
• 1:40:15
  eaten by wolves because wolves eat kids.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it was a way to scare the kids
• 1:40:18
  into being aware of what was going on.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: It was bro Do you know the World War One story? No, okay,
• 1:40:24
  World War One, the Germans and the Russians had a
• 1:40:28
  ceasefire because so many of them were getting killed by wolves.
• 1:40:32
  They made an agreement to have a ceasefire and kill
• 1:40:35
  the wolves and then go back to fighting. Seriously, yeah,
• 1:40:38
  because they were in trench warfare. So they're in Russia
• 1:40:42
  and Russia has big wolves.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, huge.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: So what happens with animals, with warm blooded animals is
• 1:40:49
  the further north the animal goes, the largest body size
• 1:40:52
  is okay, and they think it's to retain heat. So
• 1:40:55
  if you look like a deer in like, let's say
• 1:40:58
  a white tailed deeper, a white tail deer that you
• 1:41:01
  see in Texas is a small deer. Yeah. Like, if
• 1:41:04
  I see a white tail deer generally, like I see
• 1:41:06
  them all the time on my way to work. The
• 1:41:08
  white tail deer might a female might be like fifty
• 1:41:11
  sixty pounds, a male might be one hundred hundred and
• 1:41:13
  twenty pounds. Yeah, in Saskatchewan you might get a three
• 1:41:17
  hundred pound white tail Okay, they're way bigger. Yeah, way bigger.
• 1:41:21
  Oh yeah, Okay, wolves are the same thing. They're bigger
• 1:41:25
  up there. They're bigger animals up there. Like bears are bigger.
• 1:41:30
  Polar bears are huge, right, and they're nasty. Yeah, they
• 1:41:33
  have to retain heat. Yeah, So like when you go
• 1:41:37
  to like northern kind of climates, when you're dealing with
• 1:41:40
  an animal in northern climates, that's going to be a
• 1:41:43
  bigger version of that animal. So if you see a
• 1:41:45
  wolf in like Alberta, yeah, that's going to be a
• 1:41:49
  bigger wolf than a wolf that you see in Mexico.
• 1:41:52
  Those are smaller wolves.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: Right, because they don't have to survive in the same
• 1:41:56
  elements exactly.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: It's also there's no benefit just to having a large
• 1:42:00
  size of your body to maintain heat. That's why moose
• 1:42:03
  are in the most upper north part of the country.
• 1:42:07
  They're the largest of all the deer species.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: That would make sense then, yeah, yeah, like.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Elk or like larger than deer, you know, it's like
• 1:42:16
  and then the elk that are the further north, like
• 1:42:18
  those like Montana, some giant fucking elk, wyoming giant elk,
• 1:42:23
  and that's the you know, yeah.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: When you get towards Canada too, a lot of those
• 1:42:27
  places where it's just cold, you get those massive animals.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. And what we're talking about that I
• 1:42:34
  brought that up. We're talking about wolves.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Wolves, the one the red wolf being brought back to Kentucky.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so those are small because they're in like a
• 1:42:42
  warm climate.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's just odd to me
• 1:42:46
  to think though, when you even hear the word wolf,
• 1:42:48
  like we're just going to reintroduce it to this tourist area.
• 1:42:51
  It's like it seems bad.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Well, it's all these people that are liberals, that are
• 1:42:55
  like sweet kind people that like, this is Jared Poulos,
• 1:42:59
  the governor of Colorado. It's a nice guy, is a
• 1:43:01
  sweet guy. Yeah, he just posted some really kind tweet
• 1:43:07
  the other day. I'm like, oh, it seems like a
• 1:43:08
  good guy. But hey, don't bring wolves back to ranching
• 1:43:11
  areas because like you could have these idealistic, utopic view
• 1:43:15
  utopia based views of what you think a wolf would
• 1:43:17
  be like back in the while. But no, they're gonna
• 1:43:20
  they take the easiest path possible, the easiest path possible. Oh,
• 1:43:24
  there's a bunch of animals that are stuck in a
• 1:43:26
  fenced in area that I could just hop over. I'll
• 1:43:28
  just go kill one and eat it. And that's what
• 1:43:30
  they do. And so these farmers now have to hire
• 1:43:33
  people twenty four to seven to be patrolling around their animals.
• 1:43:36
  So it's a they're already operating at a very low margin. Right,
• 1:43:40
  if you're a farmer and a rancher, you lose a
• 1:43:43
  bunch of cows, you're fuck. So now the state has
• 1:43:45
  to compensate them for depredation. So every time a wolf
• 1:43:48
  kills a cow, they compensate them. So it costs a
• 1:43:50
  state more money.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: Oh so they got to pay for the.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, they have to pay for it. And then they
• 1:43:55
  now they have depredation permits on some of these wolves
• 1:43:57
  because they're repeat offenders. So now they're trying to kill
• 1:43:59
  these that They've spent millions and millions of dollars reintroducing
• 1:44:03
  the Colorado and it's all silly people. It's it's what
• 1:44:07
  it's called ballot box biology. Yeah, wildlife conservationists and hunters
• 1:44:13
  and people that are to spend time in the woods,
• 1:44:15
  they hate it. They hate it because it's mostly uninformed
• 1:44:19
  people that think they're doing a good thing, like let's
• 1:44:21
  stop trophy hunting.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to stop hunters. Hunters are evil, like no, bitch,
• 1:44:29
  bears are evil. They will fucking eat you, asshole first
• 1:44:32
  in front of your kids. They don't care.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like when they put in an insect, to
• 1:44:36
  just kill an insect that's getting out of control, always
• 1:44:39
  works bad. Yeah. So like and in Michigan, it was
• 1:44:41
  like ladybugs, but all of a sudden, now there were
• 1:44:43
  ladybugs everywhere and this kind could bite you. So they
• 1:44:47
  were some kind of beetle that was this massive problem
• 1:44:50
  all of a sudden, and it was they'll control the
• 1:44:52
  fish fly problem or mayflies people might know them as Yeah,
• 1:44:55
  and they're just because you drive down next to the water, dude.
• 1:44:58
  It just it's like sounds like rice crispies as you
• 1:45:01
  drive because you're just hitting so many of these things.
• 1:45:04
  But it didn't help that problem. It just created a
• 1:45:07
  horrible beetle problem.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: And then there was something else going on in the lake.
• 1:45:11
  So they introduced zebra muscles.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wedget that out here too, dude.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: They destroyed boats, they cut up people's feet that were
• 1:45:19
  swimming like yeah, everything, Yeah, it backfired completely and it's like,
• 1:45:23
  so you're just introducing this like poison into the air
• 1:45:26
  and into the water that you think is gonna benefit this.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they have too much vegetation on some of
• 1:45:31
  these lakes. So what did they do is they sterilize
• 1:45:33
  carp and then introduce these sterilized carp But sometimes they're
• 1:45:36
  not sterile, and sometimes they just start breeding and then
• 1:45:39
  the carp basically eat all the vegetation and so then
• 1:45:42
  your entire lake looks like the bottom of a swimming pool.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: It's gone.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: There's no more grass, so the fish don't know where
• 1:45:48
  to hide, so it's like not as effective for them.
• 1:45:51
  They don't get as big. So all the bass fishermen
• 1:45:53
  are mad because there's no like habitat and right, yeah,
• 1:45:57
  it's all fucked.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: Up and that's happened. Yeah with michiings. We do have
• 1:46:00
  a lot of fishermen, bass fishermen you know that go
• 1:46:02
  out there and you can go into pretty small pond
• 1:46:04
  areas and lakes because the great lakes and still catch
• 1:46:07
  some stuff. But once you start messing with the habitat,
• 1:46:09
  it goes bad for a long time.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, we'll look at Australia Australia has done
• 1:46:15
  a terrible job of introducing invasive species to combat problem animals.
• 1:46:19
  Oh yeah, and now they have feral cats that have
• 1:46:22
  essentially wiped out most of their ground nesting birds and
• 1:46:26
  all sorts of other things. Cats are the worst mantle,
• 1:46:29
  little cute little house cats. Yeah, they are the worst
• 1:46:32
  murderers of all the animal kingdom.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: Well, and they think birds are a nice present for you.
• 1:46:36
  That's the first thing they're going to go after is
• 1:46:38
  just kill them.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Birds and rats. Yeah, and that's why, like the crazy
• 1:46:43
  cat lady thing is a real thing too, because they
• 1:46:45
  also contain parasites, and that parasite, toxoplasmosis is it affects humans.
• 1:46:52
  It affects behavior, It makes you more impulsive, more aggressive.
• 1:46:57
  Really yeah, yeah, it's a crazy pair parasite. That is
• 1:47:01
  at one point time half of France had toxo plasmosis
• 1:47:06
  really yeah, yeah, because of of feral cats. Maybe it
• 1:47:10
  might have been half of Paris or half of France,
• 1:47:12
  I don't remember, but a large in rural areas where
• 1:47:16
  you have a lot of feral cats. Oh okay, Rich,
• 1:47:19
  you're known people that have like outdoor cats. They're very irrational, yes,
• 1:47:23
  Mark Maren, those people. Those people probably have toxo, which
• 1:47:28
  is why they're behaving weird. Yeah, why, I was, Yeah,
• 1:47:32
  that's what's going on. It's like, I guarantee if you
• 1:47:35
  test it, I might have it. I had a feral cat.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: I've never had a feral cat, but I've definitely had
• 1:47:40
  ones that would stop by the house.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I had a feral cat. A friend of mine and
• 1:47:44
  her and her boyfriend rescued a bunch of kittens that
• 1:47:46
  were underneath this building and she it was in Santa Monica,
• 1:47:49
  and she said, do you want a cat? And he
• 1:47:50
  was so cute, and I took him in. And I
• 1:47:52
  actually had to stay with this cat for like days
• 1:47:55
  in one of the rooms of my house because like
• 1:47:58
  when I picked him up, he would perr and he'd
• 1:48:00
  be sweet. As soon as I put him down, he'd
• 1:48:01
  hiss at me and jump and leap away.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: He was wild, like claws and everything.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: It took forever for me to just calm him down.
• 1:48:09
  And then after a while I could just come up
• 1:48:11
  to him and pick him up, like when he was
• 1:48:13
  a full grown cat. He was totally my friend. But
• 1:48:15
  no one else, no one else could pet this cat.
• 1:48:19
  You come over my house, and he would hiss at you,
• 1:48:21
  like like he was ready to go to war. Was
• 1:48:24
  it was crazy, but I would go, no, dude, he
• 1:48:27
  was just wild. He's wild. And I'd pick him up
• 1:48:29
  and he'd start purring. But he would purr like no
• 1:48:31
  other cat would purr because when he knew that you
• 1:48:34
  just loved him and that you weren't going to eat him.
• 1:48:37
  When I'd pick him up, he just he was so
• 1:48:42
  happy to be held. He was so happy to be
• 1:48:44
  pet But then as soon as I put him down,
• 1:48:46
  he would look at me sketchy and run away. He
• 1:48:48
  was just fucked up.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Man. My grandma had that. She was crazy though, like
• 1:48:52
  she like as she got older, she had like this
• 1:48:54
  old mansion and I don't know how she got it,
• 1:48:57
  but it was one of those things where like when
• 1:48:59
  you're Catholic, you just eighty seven kids, so the house
• 1:49:01
  was big, but now it looks huge to people.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: So she just said cats.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: But towards the end she had a few cats and
• 1:49:08
  just she would have like those Tom and Jerry mouse
• 1:49:10
  holes in the house, like where you would see them
• 1:49:13
  coming out of where they and dude, she would keep
• 1:49:16
  like she keep the spiders because they thought she thought
• 1:49:19
  it was part of the ecosystem. Oh great, So you're
• 1:49:21
  looking up like I'd have to sleep there, and I'm
• 1:49:23
  just like staring at a brown recluse like shaking at
• 1:49:26
  the age of like eight.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Those will fucking leave giant holes in your mind, so.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: They will kill it. My brother got bitten by one
• 1:49:32
  and his leg turned into a softball and he had
• 1:49:35
  to go. Yeah, she was nuts, dude, like sheet necrotic. Yeah,
• 1:49:39
  where it eats away the tissue, dude. And it went
• 1:49:41
  like that. Like he got bit and by the time
• 1:49:44
  he got to the hospital, it just kept getting big.
• 1:49:46
  It went from like a golf ball to a softball
• 1:49:49
  to like and they had to hit him with all
• 1:49:50
  this like anti vinom m. It was nuts, dude.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: My friend Jeremy had a hole in his thigh where
• 1:49:56
  he had a stuff gauze in it because it was
• 1:49:58
  constantly oozing.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's what it is, like they start it starts
• 1:50:02
  chewing weight your.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Sad Yeah, necrosis.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother's like a scar from it. Dude. It's disgusting.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Brown recluses are dangerous, man.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: But she was not. She like a casino in her
• 1:50:12
  basement that she ran.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: She that sounds so fun. It really was.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: When we were kids too, like we're dealing with like
• 1:50:21
  black jack and wine.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: She had a casino basement.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun like and then she was in
• 1:50:27
  she was recovering Elkie. Like she had beads everywhere, Like
• 1:50:30
  I didn't know what that was then, like dirty day beads. Yeah,
• 1:50:34
  and like so then later on, uh well it was
• 1:50:36
  like from Marti Graul. She had all the stuff from Martin.
• 1:50:38
  So like later in my life, I'm like, oh, my
• 1:50:40
  grandma was a whore.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: So but I didn't realize it until later. A casino
• 1:50:47
  he basically had lady.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: Casino whore who thinks spiders are part of an ecosystem,
• 1:50:52
  and you just kind of I mean, she's not wrong.
• 1:50:54
  They would eat the mosquitoes, that was her thing. But
• 1:50:57
  you'd also have like you like, I think it's a
• 1:50:59
  black in your garage and it's like, yeah, so don't
• 1:51:01
  go near it, and I'm like, you want to protect
• 1:51:03
  your spider. Like she was just nuts, dude, But uh yeah,
• 1:51:07
  she was in recovery. But then she also had an
• 1:51:09
  entire bar where you could just make drinks. So we're
• 1:51:13
  like six and like looking through like how to make
• 1:51:15
  some putty of Martini. It's so much fun since.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: She kept the drinks even though she was clean.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was clean.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: Wow, I've done that too myself though, because if people
• 1:51:27
  come over, I'm like, yeah, whatever you want, man.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I start drinking, and I have a full bar
• 1:51:31
  at my house. Yeah, I have a wine room. It's
• 1:51:33
  like such a wasted room. Yeah, it's a room filled
• 1:51:36
  with bottles of wine that now will never drink.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have. I have probably ten bottles, and it's
• 1:51:42
  if somebody.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: Wants one, Yeah, come on over, I'll judge you. Yeah,
• 1:51:45
  like my sit there and drink and I'll judge you.
• 1:51:48
  You'll start acting stupid.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: Well, after my last du I was when I got
• 1:51:52
  It's like sixteen years ago, and I had just built
• 1:51:54
  a bar in my basement and it's really nice and
• 1:51:57
  I still really like it. But like it was probably
• 1:52:00
  days later I got the DUI. So I just like
• 1:52:02
  sit there and I'll just look at this bar like
• 1:52:05
  it could have been.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Was that when you stopped drinking?
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my It was my thirteenth. The rest,
• 1:52:09
  It was my thirteenth the rest. Yeah, what was number one?
• 1:52:13
  The dad got my driver's license?
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, for real, what did you do.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: My dad had gotten a Buick Regal, and it was
• 1:52:24
  around November because they I was born in June, but
• 1:52:27
  they wouldn't let me get my driver's license because Mike
• 1:52:29
  grades were so bad. And we were having a family reunion,
• 1:52:32
  so we had everybody at the house. My dad, we thought,
• 1:52:35
  was doing a little better, and we all went out
• 1:52:37
  to eat and I'm like, hey, can I borrow the car?
• 1:52:38
  And He's like yeah. So we get home and my
• 1:52:41
  aunt had blocked the driveway thinking that I would probably
• 1:52:44
  end up taking the car and like her son out
• 1:52:46
  who was from Arizona. And the one side of my
• 1:52:49
  house was the house and then the other side was
• 1:52:52
  my neighbor's lawn with a small pine tree and like
• 1:52:55
  rose bushes and stuff.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: He just drove through that. Yeah.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: I figured if I gingerly did it, it would be
• 1:52:59
  all right. I fucked upper lawn. We go, I pick
• 1:53:04
  up my friends. We go down eight miles to this
• 1:53:07
  place called Piccadilly where we'd have this guy named Spider
• 1:53:10
  buy and he was fucking great. He was this like
• 1:53:13
  homeless dude who just was like he always got I'm
• 1:53:15
  Spider with a whack and he'd do that and then
• 1:53:18
  he was total pervert. He'd be like he would seriously
• 1:53:21
  offer to like he'd be like, I'll jack you off too,
• 1:53:23
  and we're like, we just want the beer, but we
• 1:53:24
  do appreciate it, really, but thank you. So like he'd
• 1:53:29
  always be like, somebody's got to come in with me
• 1:53:30
  to pick it up, and we'd be fighting if we
• 1:53:32
  had to get out of the car. We'll walk with
• 1:53:34
  this guy, so we we just bring the beer in.
• 1:53:37
  We're driving around. We start giving lawn jobs, you know,
• 1:53:41
  like we'd first we did leaf pile fires because everybody
• 1:53:43
  would like rake their leaves into the street, so we
• 1:53:45
  started doing those, you know, fun good old fashioned arson
• 1:53:49
  but usually it would stop pretty quickly. Somebody would run
• 1:53:51
  out with like a garden hose, and you know, it
• 1:53:54
  totally was innocent until the one time it wasn't. But
• 1:53:57
  we were driving around, we into some party, smoking weed,
• 1:54:01
  all that shit, and finally I get up on this
• 1:54:04
  one guy's lawn after party. He's got a Beamer five series,
• 1:54:07
  and I got my Regal, my dad's which it hit
• 1:54:10
  a V six turbo charge, which for a buick, it
• 1:54:13
  wasn't bad for ninety eight. But I got on this
• 1:54:16
  dude's lawn. I see him sitting in his beamer, and
• 1:54:19
  for some reason in my head, I'm just like, this
• 1:54:21
  guy's just gonna sit here and take it. So I
• 1:54:24
  just start giving him a lawn job. I'm doing donuts.
• 1:54:26
  You can hear grass hitting his car. We get in
• 1:54:30
  a high speed chase with this dude, like, oh, dude,
• 1:54:32
  I mean like French connection style.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: I hit.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: I swear I hit this bump man. Four tires went
• 1:54:38
  off the ground because we just felt like the car
• 1:54:40
  popp to the ground and we get We're just going
• 1:54:43
  all over the city. My friends are like, let's just
• 1:54:45
  pull over and beat the shit out of him, and
• 1:54:47
  I'm like, you could have a.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Gun, you know.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: So I finally go down this street that is like
• 1:54:51
  a bifurcation where it just splits immediately like this, you
• 1:54:56
  have to go this way this way, you know. And
• 1:54:58
  I didn't see it. So I start breaking because I'm
• 1:55:01
  going at an oak tree. So I'm breaking it and
• 1:55:04
  do the next thing I know, the engine drops through
• 1:55:06
  the front of the car, all the airbags come out.
• 1:55:09
  I get cracked with an airbag, and I'm like, I'm
• 1:55:12
  not quite unconscious. I'm conscious just enough to see the
• 1:55:15
  BMW in my rear view drive away. And then as
• 1:55:19
  I'm being knocked out, I hear all my friends and
• 1:55:23
  my own cousin leave. Now here's the kicker. We were
• 1:55:27
  having a family reunion. I didn't realize that there was
• 1:55:30
  a bunch of cases of beer and liquor already in
• 1:55:32
  the trunk and chips and stuff. So when I hit
• 1:55:35
  the tree, that popped open, and it looked like I
• 1:55:38
  drove a Super Bowl party into the fucking tree. There
• 1:55:41
  was just like beer and pop and chips and shit.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: Got down the street.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: And finally did I wake up from being unconscious, and
• 1:55:50
  I got out of the car, and there's a cop
• 1:55:51
  and my dad there. When I wake up, when I
• 1:55:55
  when I get up, like I had been that dude.
• 1:55:57
  I got knocked out so hard by that airbag, Oh
• 1:56:00
  my god, because it just like like all I could
• 1:56:02
  smell was that like burning telcum powder kind of smell
• 1:56:06
  like that awful, like I want to say, aggy almost.
• 1:56:09
  It was just the worst smell. But everybody else was
• 1:56:12
  able to run except me, so it looked like I
• 1:56:15
  just did it get out. I remember I look at
• 1:56:18
  my and my dad was not violent, He wasn't noun.
• 1:56:20
  But he was never violent. But I just look him
• 1:56:22
  and I go, Dad, I'm okay, and he goes great,
• 1:56:24
  and he punched me in the face of hard that
• 1:56:27
  I hit the ground and was knocked up for the
• 1:56:29
  second time that yearn dude, he cracked me up.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: To give you a second concussion that.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Night and I wake up. No, dude, no, he was pissed.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But then I wake up and the cops
• 1:56:42
  got a light on me and I sweart of got
• 1:56:45
  The cop goes, he's waking up, if you want to
• 1:56:47
  hit him again, it's the first thing I hear. And
• 1:56:50
  I'm like, you, guys, I'm really in a lot of
• 1:56:53
  pain here. And my dad like apologized, but he's like,
• 1:56:55
  look like, what the fuck is wrong with you? He
• 1:56:57
  was just furious and I had already been getting into
• 1:57:00
  dope and stuff and he was getting pretty passed with me.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: But I got last number one.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: Dude, do you I? And I got six months suspended license. Wow.
• 1:57:08
  I went in front of a referee is what they
• 1:57:10
  called it for juveniles at Coleman, a young municipal, and
• 1:57:15
  they gave me six months suspended license.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Did you have to talk your way out? Of it.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, out of being arrested.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: I mean like, oh that no, my dad.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: I remember I was going to school one day and
• 1:57:25
  he goes, I just got the bill for the car.
• 1:57:27
  I was like, yeah. He goes, it's thirteen nine and
• 1:57:30
  eighty dollars here and I go, I don't have that money.
• 1:57:33
  He goes, just show people so they know how proud
• 1:57:35
  I am of you. I was like, thanks, thanks to that. Wow.
• 1:57:38
  But he was furious, I would imagine, but he let it.
• 1:57:42
  I mean he let it go after that because we
• 1:57:44
  had alcoholism in this family.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: Believe that you were doing donuts on this guy's lawn
• 1:57:48
  right in front of him.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, we did so much shit we shouldn't have
• 1:57:51
  done back then.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: Was it just a crew you were hanging with.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was fun, Like I dude, we all
• 1:57:58
  we all just kind of wanted to be thugs. It
• 1:58:01
  was a little sad. Well, it is Detroit, Yeah, you
• 1:58:04
  want to be like you're in the suburbs, sort of
• 1:58:06
  like my house was in the suburbs, but you're you're
• 1:58:09
  literally three minutes from the most violent part of America
• 1:58:13
  at the time, so you're on the border of the
• 1:58:15
  East side of Detroit. So it's not like you can't
• 1:58:18
  hear gunshots and you know what I mean, it's like
• 1:58:20
  you're your every drug in every party. You're going down
• 1:58:24
  to raves and warehouses that are owned by like the
• 1:58:26
  Russian mob crazy oh fuck yeah wow dude, yeah, like
• 1:58:30
  oh yeah, seventeen, eighteen sixteen, all that, all those years, dude,
• 1:58:34
  like ninety nine two thousand, huge rave culture. And then
• 1:58:38
  when the new mayre came in Kwame Klepatrick, who ended
• 1:58:40
  up getting arrested and put in jail and then Trump pardoned,
• 1:58:47
  he started the Detroit Electronic Music Festival, so he capitalized
• 1:58:50
  on that.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: Really yeah. Do you remember when.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Ford Focus basically or Ford put out the Detroit Electronic
• 1:58:57
  Music Festival Focus, No, dude, it was Bay basically a
• 1:59:00
  car designed for people on ecstasy. Like the whole thing
• 1:59:04
  was speakers. Really yeah, if you can find it, And
• 1:59:08
  so the Detroit it was the Detroit uh yeah, Electronic
• 1:59:12
  Music Festival Focus and the car, yeah, because the car
• 1:59:17
  is a piece of ship, So the whole thing is
• 1:59:19
  just speakers. And the way they would do the ads
• 1:59:22
  it was almost like you go into are you on eve?
• 1:59:26
  This car is great? It's got huge cup holders for
• 1:59:28
  your water. It's got great, you know, like they were
• 1:59:33
  capitalized on it, and Hollywood did a little because that's
• 1:59:36
  like when the movie Go came out, and a lot
• 1:59:39
  of these movies that were almost it's with Go is
• 1:59:45
  the one where they're car they're all trying to get
• 1:59:48
  ecstasy in it, and it's just like Katie Holmes and
• 1:59:52
  all these other people who are like Summer different stars
• 1:59:55
  and some are and they all kind of mixed together
• 1:59:57
  in this one night and they're all just going to
• 1:59:59
  different raves and parties and the full thing is about
• 2:00:02
  e I'm trying to think of his name. You'd know
• 2:00:05
  him from the Store. Plays a bouncer in it, Uh,
• 2:00:08
  Vince Vaughn. No, No, not Vince. It's not really in
• 2:00:11
  the store, more of a comic. He used to work
• 2:00:13
  with Shimmel or not not Shrimmel. God, what is his name?
• 2:00:18
  Blonde hair, older dude, Jimmy Shuter. Yes, he plays a
• 2:00:22
  bouncer in it.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy's best.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's great. I did last comic with him and
• 2:00:25
  he was super dual.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy for thirty five years, yeah, thirty no, thirty
• 2:00:30
  years somewhere in there.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good dude and he played he played
• 2:00:33
  a bouncer in it.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what's that car? Did you find it?
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: I found it doesn't show.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: I wonder how much they've scrubbed it. But if it's
• 2:00:42
  like the Detroit music festivals, like.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: Two thousand and one article, but it's called a Ford.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: Focus for the Electronic Music festival and the way they
• 2:00:50
  were yeah, yeah, yeah, they've changed it up a bit
• 2:00:53
  with the Ventura, but yeah.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: Go with speakers, right, speakers interior.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: It was great because you'd be walking to this music
• 2:01:02
  festival in heart. Yes see the JBL speakers that would
• 2:01:05
  never be used in a Ford books.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Oh that's what they had.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had like this the sound system right, and
• 2:01:12
  it was just this this terrible little hatchback, you know,
• 2:01:18
  car that a young person could afford with a killer
• 2:01:21
  sound system in case you wanted to listen to bad
• 2:01:23
  Boy Bill or fat Boy Slamm and.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: You so you got arrested thirteen times? Yeah, so what
• 2:01:29
  was the number two?
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: Number two? Let me think two was an MIP? What's
• 2:01:39
  that minor? And possession of alcohol? Oh and then that
• 2:01:43
  one was like a lot of them were my ps? Forward?
• 2:01:45
  Do you wise? And yeah? And then I got arrested.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: Oh you still how'd you still have a license?
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: Most of it was as a minor, and then by
• 2:01:54
  the time I got my one as an adult, it
• 2:01:56
  like it had spanned enough to wear. In two thousand nine,
• 2:02:00
  when I got arrested my last time, and I decided
• 2:02:02
  to get sober, they couldn't technically put me in prison,
• 2:02:05
  and I didn't want to go because I didn't want
• 2:02:06
  to spend my days getting titty fucked by the Areyan Brotherhood.
• 2:02:09
  I know how I look, So I got clean. But yeah,
• 2:02:15
  that one was the one that I took real seriously.
• 2:02:17
  So what they did was they put an alcohol teather
• 2:02:19
  on my leg that would monitor if I was drinking,
• 2:02:22
  and a breathalyzer in my car, so I would like
• 2:02:26
  I'd have to blow start my car everywhere I went,
• 2:02:29
  you know, and like my.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: Friend Rob had that it would take like three minutes
• 2:02:31
  before he could start his car.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: Dude, it sucked. And now they take pictures of you
• 2:02:35
  and stuff, but that one, it would go off as
• 2:02:37
  you drive, so you're like driving and like I remember
• 2:02:40
  one time a truck was jackknifing, and then it's like,
• 2:02:44
  so I'm trying to like dodge this truck from hitting
• 2:02:47
  me in the grand rapid snow while blowing my car
• 2:02:50
  so it doesn't stop, no way. Swear to God. They're
• 2:02:53
  so dangerous and I'm going around the country.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't know they did it while you were at driving.
• 2:02:58
  That's insane.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: So they prove you're not drinking. So like every fifteen minutes,
• 2:03:02
  it goes off at random, but you can't time it
• 2:03:04
  and you have to.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: Blow into it.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's when people are like, can't you have somebody
• 2:03:07
  else blow? And it's like, well no, because you'd be
• 2:03:09
  like can I can I drink and drive and you
• 2:03:11
  just sit shotgun let me? But yeah, you have to
• 2:03:13
  blow the whole time you're driving. So that's what sucks
• 2:03:17
  about it. So you have this constant thing. And I
• 2:03:19
  was double jeopardy because I was a road comic. So
• 2:03:22
  in two thousand and nine, yeah, dude, I'm going into
• 2:03:25
  these bars and nightclubs and like, hey, do you have
• 2:03:28
  a phone jack? I could use for a few minutes
• 2:03:30
  And they're like yeah, why, And I'm like, I got
• 2:03:34
  this ankle monitor and I got to plug it in
• 2:03:36
  somewhere to a phone jack so they can download to
• 2:03:39
  make sure I'm not drinking. So I'd be in a bar, dude,
• 2:03:42
  with my phone with my fucking ankle, Oh my god,
• 2:03:46
  attached to the wall. Oh they downloaded my alcohol.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: Blow did it take? Uh? So it has like a
• 2:03:52
  modem like a bear.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would light you know, so I would let
• 2:03:57
  you know when you were done.
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: It would do it through the phone lines.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah at that time. Wow, I'm sure there's something more
• 2:04:02
  high tech now, this was nine. But you had to
• 2:04:05
  have a phone jack and I'd have to call my
• 2:04:07
  probation officer and be like, this is the room I'm playing.
• 2:04:10
  I'm in a bar. I was allowed to be in
• 2:04:12
  a bar, but if anybody spilled anything on me, right
• 2:04:15
  to jail.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, because.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: Like if I had any bit of like I had
• 2:04:19
  to use Tom's everything, you know, all natural stuff because
• 2:04:22
  anything could have alcohol in it.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: So like I couldn't touch anything on a chance that
• 2:04:28
  on the off chance that it would set off my monitor.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know what's really crazy? If you eat
• 2:04:32
  poppy seed bagels, you can get pop for heroin.
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you take a drug test for your job.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: Isn't that nuts? Yeah? A poppy seed bagel, Dude's a nice,
• 2:04:42
  delicious bagel. You get pop for heroin.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. Nothing else in your system but heroin.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a tea toddler. Yeah right, what's in your tea?
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What are you doing with it?
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? They tell you don't eat poppy seeds, any poppy
• 2:04:58
  seeds before you go in for a drug test. One.
• 2:05:01
  How long poppy seed bagel stays in your system?
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, I defied. I did drug test too. That sucks.
• 2:05:07
  I didn't. I never did the heroin one. I didn't
• 2:05:08
  need a lot of poppy seeds. But I did buy
• 2:05:11
  a fake dick that they caught me with.
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: He had a urinator called Yeah.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's hilarious because I they caught you with
• 2:05:22
  the fake dick.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how they catch you than me?
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Oh boy, I bought the one. I
• 2:05:29
  thought they'd be behind me.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: They weren't.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 2: No, they were right here.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: And because they know about the fake dicks.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just like, hmmm, it's gonna squeeze these
• 2:05:39
  balls from some some urine I bought off of a
• 2:05:44
  nerdy kid like r Kelly.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: I got one for you. I know a guy who
• 2:05:48
  to pass a steroid test. Yeah, he was clearly on steroids.
• 2:05:52
  He was a fighter. Yeah, he injected someone else's urine
• 2:05:57
  into his bladder.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: Oh god.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So he got some bro science doctor in
• 2:06:08
  the fucking men's room shoving.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: A large needle of piss.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: Into his bladder and then he pissed out somebody else's piss.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: Oh god, did it work?
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: Hats off? I mean that's dedication.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 4: Basketball player came back pregnant when he took his drug test.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: Using pregnant girlfriend's year and so what are they testing
• 2:06:34
  him for that he's worried about other than weed? Is
• 2:06:35
  it weak?
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: Because if it was twenty twenty in Ohio, it was
• 2:06:40
  still illegal. Plus I don't think I don't think you're
• 2:06:42
  allowed to use it. Wow if you're on the team.
• 2:06:45
  But it was illegal then, so they were probably still
• 2:06:47
  which it's never been. I mean for most people, you're.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: Suspension international drug test in your whoa as a naturalized player?
• 2:07:00
  Well he was. I wonder what they were testing him for.
• 2:07:03
  I wonder what drugs they were actually testing them for.
• 2:07:05
  What are they worried about finding?
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I bought what is it called urine? Luck
• 2:07:09
  that don't want to work.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: Steroids and stuff?
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I guess, but Jesus Christ, if I'm running
• 2:07:15
  a professional basketball organization, I want people on steroids.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: I want testing anyone for anything.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: I want them recovering, I want them playing better. Yeah,
• 2:07:24
  the whole steroid thing is so weird. You know, it's
• 2:07:27
  because it's just science. They figured out how way to
• 2:07:31
  make humans perform better. Like, so, are we supposed to
• 2:07:34
  use some science like you can use creatine, which at
• 2:07:38
  one point in time they used to treat creatine like
• 2:07:39
  it was steroids. Well, yeah, they did in the nineteen nineties.
• 2:07:43
  It was like you're taking creatine, you're basically taking steroids.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: Well it was because of the Mark maguire Jose Canseeko thing, right.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: I think that was a little later, because isn't it.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: I remember it was because part of it because they
• 2:07:54
  were like, they're on creatine and everybody's like, are you sure?
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: No, they were on Anderstey and Dion, But it wasn't.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was steroids. He was on hard core because
• 2:08:05
  he got McGuire went from like a farm boy to
• 2:08:09
  looking like one of the Looney Tunes characters from Space Jam,
• 2:08:12
  Like the dude is just fucking stacked.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: There's a video of McGuire hitting a home run, and
• 2:08:19
  as the bat is contacting the ball, you see the
• 2:08:23
  bend to the bat because he's so strong. He's whipping
• 2:08:27
  the bat so hard that it's bending in the air
• 2:08:30
  as it contacts the ball. And see if you can
• 2:08:33
  find that photo. Yeah, it's ash. It's like a very
• 2:08:37
  dense wood and he's whipping it so hard that it
• 2:08:40
  has a bend like a bow bow and arrow, and
• 2:08:43
  it's connecting the ball like perfectly on the sweet spot.
• 2:08:46
  Look at that. Look at the fucking amount of bend
• 2:08:50
  in that bat. Giants, Well, that's somebody else. But look
• 2:08:53
  at the one above it. That's the McGuire right there.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: That's it, right there, jam. It looks like he's taking
• 2:09:01
  a spoon trick.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, whoever it is, but look at it. That's what
• 2:09:04
  I'm talking about. Soone a guy is swinging at full clip.
• 2:09:07
  That's what happens to the bat, which is crazy.
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: That is completely roids.
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: That's him. Oh my god, that's nuts. Look at that bat.
• 2:09:15
  It looks like it's made out of rubber. That's so crazy.
• 2:09:19
  Imagine the fucking force your body has to generate to
• 2:09:22
  do that to one of those bats.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Pete Rose never gets inducted. I know, dude,
• 2:09:29
  I met him. I liked him.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: I know that didn't make any sense. He's just gambling.
• 2:09:32
  It's didn't didn't hinder his play, no, I mean, was
• 2:09:37
  there was some concern that maybe he bet against his team.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it probably did.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he says he didn't.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 4: He's going to be eligible.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I figured posthumously.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured. Yeah, that's what they were gonna do.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not cool or No, he's dead. You
• 2:09:54
  should have done it while he's alive.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: No, and he's been around sitting in the MGM in
• 2:09:59
  Vegas finding the ship for a long time. You know,
• 2:10:02
  great player, Yes, he was amazing.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, just because a guy does something like that
• 2:10:07
  doesn't mean he didn't do amazing things playing. And that's
• 2:10:09
  what it's supposed to be all about. The guy was
• 2:10:12
  an all star. He was one of the greatest of
• 2:10:14
  all time, and took it away from him because he
• 2:10:17
  likes to gamble. Guess what. That's also probably why he
• 2:10:20
  was so fucking good, because he was wild. Yes, he
• 2:10:23
  was a wild boy. It's true.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, And Jordan, Oh, dude.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: Jennard gambler. Yeah, the greatest basketball player whoever walked the
• 2:10:31
  face of the fucking earth.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, and Degen like Pete Rose's dad wasn't taken out.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: From the same place, man, It comes from the same place.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same deal. Well, yeah, because there's a part of
• 2:10:42
  you that wants to do risky things. If you're willing
• 2:10:44
  to go that far, you have to have that element. Yeah,
• 2:10:47
  so you kind of want to go like, yeah, he
• 2:10:49
  threw a few games with the confidence that the team
• 2:10:51
  would still be fine. That's kind of amazing.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: If he did. It's a guy chasing money. He's probably
• 2:10:59
  he's probably well that the thing they said about Jordan
• 2:11:01
  was he wouldn't pay.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of shady
• 2:11:06
  shit that happened.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: Well, that was that golf hustler that beat him out
• 2:11:09
  of hundreds of thousands of dollars and then wrote a
• 2:11:11
  story about it because Jordan wouldn't pay him. Then it
• 2:11:14
  kind of started getting out and then Jordan's dad got murdered.
• 2:11:18
  It was a lot there. Yeah.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the connection with that people may have taken out
• 2:11:23
  his dad over gambling dads, which is rarely talking about.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: You know, here's another connection that I never considered until recently.
• 2:11:29
  Remember when Cosby's kid got murdered. Ah, yeah, and everybody
• 2:11:33
  was like, oh, it's just a random crime. Maybe not right,
• 2:11:37
  I don't think it was. Now, well, now you know
• 2:11:39
  what Cosby did. Imagine if he did that to someone's
• 2:11:42
  daughter and they said, oh, well guess what.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: Because he wasn't robbed, right, they didn't take anything, right,
• 2:11:47
  he was just changing a tire. Yeah, and who knows
• 2:11:51
  if he even was. They could have flagged him down.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: Exactly, Who knows if he even was, yeah, or who
• 2:11:55
  knows that they may be flat in his tire exactly? Yeah,
• 2:12:00
  I know he's going to drive flat in his tire.
• 2:12:01
  Let him drive off a little bit and he's eventually
• 2:12:03
  gonna have to stop and pull over.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: It. It seems so random to just kill someone for fun.
• 2:12:10
  It's rare, Yeah, very rare.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: And when you know what Cosby did, it makes you go, oh,
• 2:12:16
  maybe there's something there.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: And now the stuff that has come out is so dude,
• 2:12:22
  it's so dark.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: Why heard this lady say that he might be the
• 2:12:25
  most prolific serial rapist in history?
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: I don't doubt it.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: Do you imagine how insane that is the guy who
• 2:12:31
  is the you know, mister Huxtable, doctor Huxtable ahead of
• 2:12:35
  the fucking family and the most wholesome sitcom. Everybody loved it.
• 2:12:40
  Across the race Barrier made everybody think of like this
• 2:12:44
  black family was like incredibly respectful and well put together.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: And how great is this dude that doesn't exist without him?
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right right? And he had a guynecology office in
• 2:12:56
  his basement which he just slid past everybody on the
• 2:12:59
  show Gynecology. Yeah, doctor Huxbelle was a gynecologist and he
• 2:13:04
  was a doctor, and in his basement is where he
• 2:13:07
  saw the women and no one thought anything about it.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: Wow. About the one episode that he did about Spanish Fly.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: Dude, and he would talk about it in his act.
• 2:13:15
  He has like old records of Spanish Fly, Yeah, where
• 2:13:18
  he's just talking about it, like the whole audience is like, yeah,
• 2:13:21
  the rape drug. That's hilarious.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, old Bill. He had a whole episode of the
• 2:13:25
  show about his special barbecue sauce.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, when everybody started making out with each other.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how crazy is that?
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: Well, did you ever see the Cosby Mysteries intro? No,
• 2:13:37
  it's a pill going into a martini and then it
• 2:13:39
  just has cosby mysteries, Like, yeah, I think he was
• 2:13:44
  more deviant than we actually realized and was leaving these
• 2:13:47
  like little like taunting breadcrumbs.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: I had heard that he was doing that kind of
• 2:13:52
  stuff in the nineties when I was on news radio.
• 2:13:56
  I'd heard from people that knew him or people that
• 2:13:58
  knew of him. Yeah, like that he drugs girls. I
• 2:14:01
  was like what, Bill cos I was like, this is crazy.
• 2:14:04
  This is crazier than Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, right, Like,
• 2:14:07
  what are you talking about? Yeah?
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: I heard he was like a I heard he had
• 2:14:10
  sex with a lot of women. And I was like, well, okay,
• 2:14:12
  like that it's a different thing, like that's you know,
• 2:14:15
  I'm like whatever, So he's not spotless.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: I would assume I heard about it in Hollywood. Yeah,
• 2:14:20
  it was the people knew. It was like an inside secret.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: But then like when I started becoming a comic and
• 2:14:26
  I was doing small stuff like an ad like and
• 2:14:29
  not the the HBO Vegas festus. Oh that's weird, okay,
• 2:14:35
  but this is the reflections in it.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 1: But this is a mystery, like someone's drugging someone. This
• 2:14:42
  was a show about this was like a cop show, right.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he came back out.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: He came back out and did a cop show.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how weird. It's just crazy that the first thing
• 2:14:53
  in it, though, is a drink being drugged. How weird.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: When was the Cosby Mysteries?
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: Oh? I think it was mid nineties.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: How long did that last?
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: I think its season or two? Yeah, ninety four. Yeah,
• 2:15:07
  it didn't last very long. Wow.
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. People wanted to see him in comedies like why
• 2:15:11
  do you have the most loved comedy sitcom star ever?
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: And his film career wasn't great. It was like ghost
• 2:15:19
  Dad and you know he did it. Yeah, it was
• 2:15:22
  all very fat Albert. There was a story and I
• 2:15:25
  can't remember if it was fat Albert, but uh, what's
• 2:15:28
  his name? Keenan Thompson was talking about one of the
• 2:15:31
  first times he met Bill Cosby and he was like,
• 2:15:33
  you know, like, you're gonna you're gonna need two dicks
• 2:15:35
  for all the pussy you're gonna get. And he was
• 2:15:37
  like what the fuck, Like he just couldn't believe. It
• 2:15:39
  was like one of the first things Cosby had said
• 2:15:41
  to him.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: WHOA.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: So it's like he because you just meet that guy
• 2:15:45
  and you kind of wouldn't expect it to switch so hard,
• 2:15:48
  especially a guy who's who's been telling people not to
• 2:15:52
  especially after Eddie Murphy's stories and all that stuff.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: You know, Eddie Murphy from Raw.
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, and he's like, tell, mister, tell, mister, must
• 2:16:00
  be the Richard Pryors that have a punk smile and
• 2:16:02
  shut the fuck up. Yeah, do the people laugh? Do
• 2:16:04
  you get paid?
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: Be ready because when this movie comes out, you're gonna
• 2:16:09
  need two dicks because the woman's gonna be all over you.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: The sketch college, you're called Wow, Yes, it was that,
• 2:16:16
  And imagine saying that to somebody over fat Elbert He's like,
• 2:16:19
  are you sure that one?
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: I think when he was young that drugging people was normal.
• 2:16:27
  That's what I think. I think that whole Spanish fly
• 2:16:29
  era where people were just giving people mickey's, they're putting
• 2:16:33
  things in people's drinks. I think I think people did
• 2:16:36
  that all the fucking time. I think it was super normal.
• 2:16:42
  And then I think society eventually evolved and people realized
• 2:16:45
  how fucking horrible that is. And then he kept me on,
• 2:16:50
  Oh that was his move. Yeah, absolutely, especially when he
• 2:16:52
  got old and ladies didn't want to fuck him. They
• 2:16:54
  wanted a career and they thought maybe Bill Cosby said
• 2:16:57
  he's gonna help me with my acting. So you know,
• 2:16:59
  you wake up and your panties are off. Well what happened?
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: And a lot of them too. When you see like
• 2:17:04
  the roles they would get on the Cosby show. Now
• 2:17:06
  you have like super model looking women playing a cop,
• 2:17:10
  and it's like he would have private dinners with them,
• 2:17:12
  you know, like in his green room, just little like
• 2:17:15
  super shady shit boy.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: So yeah, like he, I guarantee you maybe him and
• 2:17:23
  uh was a Jordan met him belfour you've probably met
• 2:17:28
  him too, the wolf Wolf. Yeah, I'm thinking like Cosby
• 2:17:31
  and him may have been the last people on earth
• 2:17:33
  to ever have kayludes.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 1: Like one of them, what was kuayludes?
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: Like I never did kuahludes? They were I think they were.
• 2:17:41
  See he's older, older to remember that. Yeah, yeah, because
• 2:17:45
  I've heard him talk about it. Yeah, but I've never
• 2:17:47
  done kuludes. I think they were, Like I think the
• 2:17:49
  last one was like ninety.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: Look at that, she'll do things she's never done before.
• 2:17:54
  Increases sexual I don't even think it's real, dude.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 2: It's an ad for rape.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 4: But the tough says it comes from parts of a beetle.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: That's what they used to say.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: So it really works. Whether it works or not, but
• 2:18:07
  that's what I'm saying. I mean, I'm sure it's real
• 2:18:09
  as like a product, But I don't think there's a
• 2:18:11
  thing that actually makes you horny.
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 4: Said would give you extra like it's like a pre viagra.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't get you horny like viagra. Is
• 2:18:20
  it just increases blood flow.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: Someone had it when I was maybe I don't know,
• 2:18:26
  in middle school.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: Somebody Spanish fly.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a bottle of something that said Spanish Okay,
• 2:18:31
  google this, it does Spanish fly work?
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 4: That's I was getting.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: I ended up in marketing market love. Look at this
• 2:18:41
  love with no strings. It's a flight attendant. Add flight
• 2:18:45
  attendants were fucking hot back then. They would hire they
• 2:18:49
  would hire only hot flight attendants. They would fire you
• 2:18:51
  if you were Spanish fly movie. So just google this
• 2:18:55
  for me. Does Spanish fly actually make you aroused?
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: Dude? If there's a movie it was popular.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: Does it work? Oh, let's see. Spanish fly is not
• 2:19:10
  an aphrodisiac. It's a toxic substance called carth can can thoridin.
• 2:19:18
  Cantharidin derived from blister beetles that can cause severe harm,
• 2:19:22
  including pain, burning, and internal damage. There's no evidence to
• 2:19:26
  increases sexual desire Ingesting can thoridin. Cantharidin can be fatal,
• 2:19:33
  while it causes burning sensation in the urinary tract that
• 2:19:36
  can provoke an erection. It is a dangerous side effect,
• 2:19:40
  not an aphrodisiac effect. So it gives you a boner
• 2:19:43
  while you're dying. Yeah, I.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: Guess knock you out. And that's why they're like, she's horny.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: Bro okay, so just google this. Is there a drug
• 2:19:53
  that makes you horny? Just google that. You put it in,
• 2:19:59
  put it in a chat GPT, I mean perplexity or.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: Something MDMA, I would you know that?
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: But it makes you loving, right, it makes you like
• 2:20:09
  kind and want to hug people. I don't think it
• 2:20:11
  makes you sexual.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: But if you were rolling, I mean and like a
• 2:20:14
  girl just like touched your knee in a way, right,
• 2:20:16
  you were like, I don't might come, you know, it
• 2:20:18
  was just sort of it.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: Was pretty crazy soft dick.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's what sucked is it didn't It didn't
• 2:20:25
  help your libido.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: No universally proven aphrodisiac drug exists that reliably increases sexual
• 2:20:30
  desire across all individuals. The concept of an aphrodisiac, a
• 2:20:34
  substance that enhances libido or sexual performance, has been around
• 2:20:37
  for centuries, but scientific evidence is limited and often inconclusive,
• 2:20:42
  so some substances are marketed as that historical cultural substances
• 2:20:47
  foods like oysters okay, chocolate okay, no, that stuff works.
• 2:20:51
  Medications viagra, but again, these they treat a rectile dysfunction
• 2:20:56
  by improving blood flow, not by increasing desire. Yeah no, no, no,
• 2:21:01
  I get it. Hormonal treatments, testosterone therapy boost libido. Yeah,
• 2:21:05
  but it doesn't like just make you horny out of nowhere.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think there's anything like what is horny
• 2:21:13
  goat weed at a gas station? That's just like poison, right.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: Bath salts? Remember bath salts? Basalts they used to sell
• 2:21:21
  at the gas station, and it was basically like some
• 2:21:24
  kind of like horrible drug that they snuck in by
• 2:21:28
  saying it was not for human consumption, but it was
• 2:21:30
  a bath salt, so you throw it in the bath.
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: And then well you would consume a human because remember
• 2:21:35
  when the guy ate the dudes, Yes.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy in Florida. But I always
• 2:21:39
  feel like, I got to put that through the Florida lens.
• 2:21:41
  It only happened in Florida.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: That's true. If it is Florida, You're like, there could
• 2:21:44
  have been other elements.
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 1: A lot of other elements in Florida.
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: There's a whole lifestyle that could have led a lot
• 2:21:49
  of choices.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: But Florida where that was the place where the pill
• 2:21:54
  mills really started popping off. Because the way Florida had
• 2:21:57
  it set up, they had these pain men management centers,
• 2:22:01
  and then attached to the pain management centers, they'd have
• 2:22:04
  a doctor that would prescribe it for you. So the
• 2:22:07
  whole thing was just to prescribe pain pills. So you'd go,
• 2:22:11
  excuse me, you'd go to the pain managed center. All
• 2:22:13
  my back hurts, great, you need this, go right next door,
• 2:22:16
  and right next door. All they prescribed was pain pills,
• 2:22:19
  and they didn't have a database, so you would go
• 2:22:22
  there and then you go down the street. Oh my
• 2:22:24
  back hurts, Oh great, here you go and then next door,
• 2:22:27
  and you could just keep doing this over and over again.
• 2:22:29
  And then this documentary, the oxy Conton Express showed how
• 2:22:33
  people were loading up the trunks of their cars with
• 2:22:35
  these pain pills and driving up north and into Kentucky,
• 2:22:39
  into Ohio, and that's where all these people started dying
• 2:22:43
  of overdoses and all people got to dig to pills.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: There's also one in Richmond, I want to say, right
• 2:22:48
  outside Richmond, a pharmaceutical company that was also largely responsible,
• 2:22:52
  because I remember even being working at a pharmacy and going,
• 2:22:57
  like my mom was an RN, so I'd go in there.
• 2:22:59
  I remember the doctors are not the doctors, but like
• 2:23:02
  I remember companies taking out the doctors to eat, or
• 2:23:05
  like you'd see like oxy cotton reps, or you'd sign
• 2:23:07
  with a pen that had a pain killer's name on it.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: Yep, all that stuff. I remember my wife's mom's nurse,
• 2:23:13
  and she would tell stories about how the pharmaceutical drug
• 2:23:16
  companies would take them out to nice steak dinners and
• 2:23:19
  treat them really nice, and just the whole thing was
• 2:23:21
  like make sure you push our shirt.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: It was yeah, give our product to the people.
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: Come to tell people how great it is. How great
• 2:23:28
  is our product, dude.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 2: They used to give a lot, Like I was getting
• 2:23:31
  my when I got my knee messed up, I got
• 2:23:34
  hooked on oxy on vicoin, and I had taken lots
• 2:23:38
  of vicodin before, but I took a prescribed amount that
• 2:23:41
  was just way too many for several months in a row.
• 2:23:44
  And then when I came down, it was one of
• 2:23:46
  the sickest times I've ever had to deal with. I'm
• 2:23:49
  like shaking, you know, I'm throwing up every few minutes.
• 2:23:52
  And this was the allotted amount I was supposed to take. Like,
• 2:23:55
  how long did you for a day? For two months?
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: And how long was the like the before you became
• 2:24:02
  normal again?
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: Oh god, it I felt real bad for about four
• 2:24:07
  to five days, like for me even when I quit smoking,
• 2:24:10
  like I used to smoke three packs a day for
• 2:24:13
  almost twelve years.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: And but I did a lot of acid and shrooms
• 2:24:17
  and shit and it was fun, you know, like one
• 2:24:19
  after the other one did it was but it felt good,
• 2:24:22
  you know, so like, yeah, I would do that. But
• 2:24:25
  even that, I locked myself in a room when I
• 2:24:27
  was living in LA and I just didn't leave and
• 2:24:30
  leave the room for a week.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: I just got clean, dude.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: I just let my body deal with the pain and
• 2:24:35
  then I left. Like so it usually takes me about
• 2:24:38
  that long, you know, to really detox my system if
• 2:24:42
  it's something that isn't killer. Alcohol was hard. Alcohol was
• 2:24:47
  really hard because I had started shaking when I wouldn't
• 2:24:49
  drink when I was sixteen.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: Ooh boy. So yeah, you got addicted to it early,
• 2:24:53
  do it very early. So it's like a genetic thing
• 2:24:55
  with your family big time.
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know about that until later, you know.
• 2:24:59
  And like my my dad had talked to me a
• 2:25:01
  bit before he died, and you know, he died when
• 2:25:03
  I was eighteen, and but he he finally talked to
• 2:25:06
  me about what was going on with the family and
• 2:25:08
  stuff I hadn't known. And my uncle, who I figured
• 2:25:11
  had died of a heroin overdose. But my Mom's like,
• 2:25:14
  he just had a big heart, and You're like, did
• 2:25:17
  he can? I just know the truth, you know, And
• 2:25:19
  it turned out it was lines of years of addiction.
• 2:25:22
  Like my dad's dad was Irish, guy left him the
• 2:25:26
  day he was born, walked in, saw my dad was
• 2:25:29
  a twin, had twin sister, and goes, I'm not raising
• 2:25:31
  two and walked out.
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: Oho.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: So then he was the opposite dad. He was loving
• 2:25:36
  coach all that stuff. You know, he turned it, but
• 2:25:40
  fucked by the government. Oh yeah, and then fucked by
• 2:25:42
  the government. He became a very yeah, And.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: It's crazy how that kind of addiction, addiction and mental
• 2:25:48
  illness is just fucking hardcore genetic. And when you have
• 2:25:53
  a family that has a long history of mental illness,
• 2:25:55
  it's very rare that you're like I'm fine.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's very rare that you're in a noma.
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is fine. Usually maybe you're not good.
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: I just know so many people that are alcoholics that
• 2:26:10
  their family's an alcoholic. Like guys, I had a buddy
• 2:26:13
  that he would drink and his eyes would glaze over
• 2:26:16
  and it wouldn't be him anymore. It'd be like, oh,
• 2:26:18
  he's gone. We just got to wait until he comes back,
• 2:26:20
  because right now it's whatever the fuck happens to him
• 2:26:22
  when he drinks, just crazy off the rails, Like didn't
• 2:26:26
  remember anything, full blackout. Oh yeah, you'd have to tell
• 2:26:29
  him you don't remember being on the table with your
• 2:26:31
  dick out. You don't remember he didn't remember anything.
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: I was the guy on that side of the phone call. See,
• 2:26:36
  they were like, you need to apologize to this person.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: Black all the time, all the time, so you didn't
• 2:26:41
  remember anything.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't remember most sometimes I brown out, so i'd
• 2:26:45
  kind of remember what we did. There was times where
• 2:26:47
  I actually I was at a party, right, and then
• 2:26:51
  I wake up and I'm handcuffed to a bed in
• 2:26:55
  a hospital getting charcoal dumped down. Oh you know, my
• 2:26:59
  stomach pumped. I'm like, god, oh something happened, because like
• 2:27:02
  I live.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: But I went from like like being at a.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: Party to just being woken up with a charcoal stomach pump,
• 2:27:10
  and I'm good.
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: Do you talk about any of this stuff on stage?
• 2:27:13
  I do? Yeah, Oh, I imagine you have to, like
• 2:27:16
  what I'm so ripe for material.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I put out a book it's called Party One,
• 2:27:20
  a fuzzy memoir a little while ago, and it's it's
• 2:27:23
  all stories of my youth because I I was trying
• 2:27:26
  to get it all out and then I had to
• 2:27:28
  ask people. And I didn't put it out for years
• 2:27:30
  because I wanted to be like, hey, is it cool
• 2:27:31
  if I change like to talk about and everybody was.
• 2:27:35
  But and a couple of my friends were my really
• 2:27:37
  good friends I had to fuck with from I'm like,
• 2:27:38
  don't worry, I change your name from Brian to Ryan,
• 2:27:41
  so no one knows that little shit like that. But yeah,
• 2:27:45
  I talk about a lot of this on stage because dude,
• 2:27:47
  I got institutionalized. I got like, yeah, it was all
• 2:27:51
  like crazy.
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: How'd you get institutionalized?
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: I the story I talked about in the book is
• 2:27:56
  what happened the night before before, not the book, but
• 2:27:59
  on stage, because I have to kind of sum it up.
• 2:28:00
  I actually did it on This Is Not Happening Ari show.
• 2:28:03
  And what happened was was I used to like bong
• 2:28:08
  pintes and fifths for like a party trick, and I
• 2:28:11
  could carry around a case of beer and you know,
• 2:28:13
  drink that in a night. And mind you, I'm five six,
• 2:28:17
  but then I'm in high school. I probably weigh one
• 2:28:19
  hundred and forty pounds, dude.
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: Like I was.
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: And if I wasn't on if I wasn't on LSD
• 2:28:24
  and I wasn't on mushrooms and I wasn't on K,
• 2:28:27
  I was drunk.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: So I would switch it all up. And the night
• 2:28:32
  before I had bonged a fifth at.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: A party, Like what do you mean by bong?
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: You know the beer bongs that you used to have,
• 2:28:38
  like the funnel and go through. So my friend Anthony
• 2:28:40
  pulled out this beer bong and my friend Nick poort
• 2:28:43
  an entire fifth of Absolute vodka and Nick's like, dude,
• 2:28:46
  don't do this.
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: You just drank the whole thing.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: Well, they put in a capful of sprite. Then I
• 2:28:50
  drank the whole thing. And dude, I guess I say
• 2:28:54
  this in the story because I this is what I
• 2:28:56
  was told happened. I was tab dancing. I told my
• 2:28:59
  girlfriend why I love that she had orangutang teddies.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: Then I fell through a table, a glass table. Oh no,
• 2:29:10
  And then yeah, I ended up getting taken home by
• 2:29:12
  the cops. I don't know exactly what happened, but my
• 2:29:15
  mom ended up calling the police, which is, you know,
• 2:29:18
  like she didn't know what to do. I was doing
• 2:29:20
  something right, and they arrested me, and I was institutionalized
• 2:29:25
  for two weeks. And I stayed with a kid who
• 2:29:27
  thought he was a werewolf.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: So you had to go to a mental health institution.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: I went to a mental health institution because they weren't.
• 2:29:33
  They didn't realize it was an addiction. They just arrested
• 2:29:36
  me because my behavior was so erratic. And I remember
• 2:29:39
  getting there and I met my and I'm not kidding.
• 2:29:42
  I met my roommate who was he was a werewolf,
• 2:29:44
  that's what he believed, and I'm like, I don't want to.
• 2:29:47
  I don't want to stay with him, and they're like, well,
• 2:29:49
  he's not really a were wolf. I'm like, yeah, I
• 2:29:50
  know what.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: Happens when the moon turns full.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: Well, he attacked me, oh boy. Yeah. So and they
• 2:29:56
  what they do is they grab a tank, a trank.
• 2:29:58
  It's called booty juice, and they hit you in the
• 2:30:01
  butt with it and like the guards will fight you off.
• 2:30:05
  But after two weeks they're like, he's not it's not
• 2:30:08
  so much that he's got mental illness, which he does,
• 2:30:10
  but he's an alcoholic. He's a severe alcoholic.
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 1: But your roommate, the werewolf, Yeah, he attacked you when
• 2:30:17
  the moon turned white.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one night he just started howling. And I don't
• 2:30:20
  even think wolves howl.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: And he was way bigger than me.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: You don't think wolve's hellolves they do, yeah, American in London.
• 2:30:30
  But he was barking too.
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: And the patient says sedative known as booty juice injected
• 2:30:35
  against their will.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: Growing number of children teenagers admitted voluntarily to North Texas
• 2:30:41
  for profit psychiatric hospitals told w FAA they've been injected
• 2:30:46
  with powerful sedative drugs without their parents' knowledge booty juice.
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which that kid deserved it. They shouldn't have called
• 2:30:52
  the parents and go, hey, your wolf boys fucking naked
• 2:30:56
  trying to eat a guy? Is he naked when he
• 2:30:58
  attacked those clothes off because he thought it was a werewolf?
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: Dude, tell me what that was?
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: Like, Well, he's jumping on top of me and I
• 2:31:04
  grabbed a lamp to hit him with it, but it
• 2:31:06
  was fucking glued down because it's a mental hospital. So
• 2:31:08
  that just kind of made me open my arms to him,
• 2:31:11
  and He's on top trying to bite me, and I'm
• 2:31:13
  like holding him back, and that's when they came in
• 2:31:16
  and they run and they ran at him. They hit
• 2:31:18
  him with the syringe. They pulled him off me, and
• 2:31:20
  I'm just sitting there like I want to be here,
• 2:31:22
  like I'm I'll never drink again, you know, like basically
• 2:31:25
  crying like a bitch, like and you know, I'll never
• 2:31:28
  drink again was like my catchphrase through the nothing. So
• 2:31:34
  they pull him out of there, and then, you know,
• 2:31:37
  and then eventually they sent me off to a rehab
• 2:31:40
  where I spent uh I think I spent forty five
• 2:31:42
  days there and I heard it's not there anymore, which
• 2:31:45
  is a shame because a lot of kids do need
• 2:31:47
  that now. And I heard they took it down like
• 2:31:49
  it's no longer there. And I went there and this
• 2:31:52
  second I got out, I didn't drink. I didn't drink
• 2:31:54
  for like a month. But the second I got my
• 2:31:57
  friend's car, I hit a joint. And I'm not saying
• 2:31:59
  that that's bad, but it's like, dude, the second I
• 2:32:02
  was I was, They're like, you can't drink, right, and
• 2:32:04
  I'm like, yeah, like you can smoke weed. I'm like, yeah,
• 2:32:08
  so I immediately hit a joint.
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Dave, Yeah, Jesus Christ.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: And that's what.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing that you're here, dude.
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of shit.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: Like you look great though, Thank you for a guy
• 2:32:21
  who's gone through as much shit as you. Yeah, like
• 2:32:24
  three packs a day, alcohol, acid, so much aid the
• 2:32:28
  US falls through the table. Look at you? Fine? You
• 2:32:32
  know what.
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: You know what is interesting though, all the drugs now,
• 2:32:35
  because like I told you, I was really like kind
• 2:32:37
  of depressed kid, and all the drugs that I did
• 2:32:40
  to treat depression are now used to treat depression. Mushrooms, ketamine,
• 2:32:44
  all that shit. Dude, Right, Like, I'm I spent five
• 2:32:47
  years in high school. When it turns out I was
• 2:32:49
  completely accurate with my studies of how these drugs would
• 2:32:54
  help me.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: You were self medicating and I was accurate with it.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I would do K and I'd just be
• 2:33:00
  sitting there in a k hole in class. Just think
• 2:33:03
  the desk is moving, Jesus, dude. And ASCID was the
• 2:33:07
  most fun to do in class because your teacher's face
• 2:33:09
  is melting and you're just sitting there like it's so
• 2:33:12
  much fun.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 1: Wow, But I was.
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 2: I was a mess. But at the same time, so
• 2:33:17
  many of my friends were too.
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like just me right, so it felt normal.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean I was the worst of them
• 2:33:23
  and technically slowest because I was arrested more than anybody.
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: You were the most fun. What did you think you
• 2:33:29
  were going to do for a living? Back then?
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 2: The only thing I ever loved was acting in comedy.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: Oh okay.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: My dad would wake me up when I was a
• 2:33:37
  kid to watch snl uh, And he wasn't something that
• 2:33:40
  him and my brother they'd watch like baseball and stuff,
• 2:33:42
  but we'd watch snl together. We would watch like old
• 2:33:45
  movies with like John Candy, Steve Martin, like all those people.
• 2:33:49
  And then he introduced me to stand up and my
• 2:33:51
  dad bought me. He bought me Kinnison, Carlin. He bought
• 2:33:56
  me Carlin Classic Gold on tape when I was nine,
• 2:34:00
  which had seven dirty words and all that. He bought
• 2:34:03
  me Dangerfield, Button Down Mind to Bob Newhart, Eddie Murphy.
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: He showed me.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 2: Delirious when I was like eight. Wow, dude, I still
• 2:34:12
  left so hard because that, like the whole Bitty does
• 2:34:14
  about the Hamburger was so relevant then, Like I got
• 2:34:18
  McDonald's at home and he's like, you can't have none.
• 2:34:20
  You on the welfare. And I knew what that meant then,
• 2:34:23
  and I was crying laughing because I loved Eddie Murphy,
• 2:34:26
  you know. So he introduced me to comedy and the
• 2:34:28
  only thing I had any interest in was that. And
• 2:34:31
  one day Second City opened up in Detroit, and I
• 2:34:35
  was pissing this teacher off someone and she stopped me
• 2:34:39
  after class and she goes, do you know what Second
• 2:34:43
  City is? And I go, uh, yeah, my dad's told
• 2:34:46
  me about it. It's like where all these SNL people
• 2:34:48
  came from. And she's like, yeah, you're actually really funny,
• 2:34:52
  but you're a fucking pain in the ass in my class.
• 2:34:54
  And I was like, okay, it really was, and she goes,
• 2:34:59
  she goes, you should consider taking classes there, and I said, wow, okay.
• 2:35:04
  So after my fifth year, the first thing I did
• 2:35:07
  was I listened to her and my dad and I
• 2:35:09
  signed up for Second City and dude, years later, I'm
• 2:35:11
  doing improv on stage with this group, MotorCity Improv, and like,
• 2:35:15
  it's more bar prov. You're just fucking around, you know.
• 2:35:18
  But one of the guys in the group was, Hey,
• 2:35:21
  my wife's gonna come too, and it was my teacher
• 2:35:23
  and I got to do improv with her years later. Wow,
• 2:35:27
  it's really cool, man, because, like she it was the
• 2:35:30
  first time somebody didn't scold me, they stopped me to go, like,
• 2:35:34
  you genuinely have something and you're not just this waste, right,
• 2:35:38
  And no one had ever besides my parents, but nobody
• 2:35:41
  else had ever said that before.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: Well, that's so cool that she was already in that
• 2:35:43
  world so she understood.
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We were actually just having a conversation about that
• 2:35:48
  last night in the green room, not last night, night before,
• 2:35:51
  and we were talking about times in your life that
• 2:35:53
  someone could have just told you this is behavior like
• 2:35:57
  a stand up comedian, Like that's a real job. Yeah,
• 2:36:00
  you know how you know you like fixing cars and
• 2:36:02
  you could be a mechanic. You know, you like talking shit,
• 2:36:05
  you're funny. Everybody laughs, this is a job, like just
• 2:36:08
  but everybody just tells you you're a fucking loser and
• 2:36:11
  you're never gonna mount to anything and get out of
• 2:36:13
  my class.
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: And that's and I was very lucky like my parents.
• 2:36:16
  My dad had had was just about to pass when
• 2:36:19
  I told him, I think I'm gonna do Second City
• 2:36:21
  and then take this film class up in Lansing, Michigan,
• 2:36:24
  which is what I did. I did film and I
• 2:36:26
  did that and I would go back and forth and
• 2:36:28
  he was like you should, like that's what you've always
• 2:36:32
  wanted to do. Like I had a camera in my
• 2:36:33
  hands since I was a kid. Like my parents never
• 2:36:36
  wanted me to have a backup plan. They were like,
• 2:36:38
  find something you love, like that's you know. And we
• 2:36:42
  were really only torn apart as a family because of
• 2:36:45
  what we experienced, you know, from my dad just being screwed. Yeah,
• 2:36:51
  so we were If I think if I had even
• 2:36:54
  a more direct line, it may have gotten there sooner,
• 2:36:56
  you know, but I was I was angry and depressed
• 2:36:59
  and pissed off.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: My whole attitude was fucking you, fuck the system. Yeah,
• 2:37:03
  so there when I finally found that outlet, it was wonderful, dude,
• 2:37:08
  especially when you're writing sketches and watching him come to
• 2:37:10
  life and you're ripping on the people they fucked you over,
• 2:37:13
  and like, there's such a good feeling about that. And
• 2:37:16
  a lot of people that I met have gone on
• 2:37:18
  to do great things. Like I was in a troop
• 2:37:20
  with Sam Richardson who went on to do Detroitters. And
• 2:37:23
  you know, there's Tim Robinson who I didn't know him
• 2:37:26
  well or anything, but we did improv a couple of times,
• 2:37:28
  and it's cool to see him like Skyrocket with I
• 2:37:31
  Think you Should Leave and all these other stuff. And
• 2:37:33
  Keegan Michael Key was somebody that was out of the
• 2:37:35
  Detroit chapter. So there's like some really cool people that
• 2:37:38
  ended up coming out of there.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: What was the stand up scene, like, like, what was
• 2:37:41
  the big club?
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 2: The big club was Mark Ridley's comedy cast. Okay I
• 2:37:44
  heard that, yeah, and I started, Dude, it's unbelievable. And
• 2:37:48
  he was the guy who you wanted to do stand
• 2:37:51
  up in front of because he was there every night
• 2:37:53
  tearing tickets like he was. Dude. He was a part
• 2:37:56
  of it from the late seventies until he had a
• 2:37:59
  heart attack maybe around twenty ten. His son, Ryan Ridley
• 2:38:02
  was the head writer of Rick and Morty. Oh wow,
• 2:38:05
  so he dude, he's a great dude. And you just
• 2:38:09
  had my costa on. Yes, Mike was in my group
• 2:38:11
  when I started.
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: Oh no, kay.
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was one of the people that I started with.
• 2:38:14
  And then a guy named Matt mcclowary, who's he's actually
• 2:38:17
  featuring for me this weekend. Who's unbelievably funny dude the
• 2:38:20
  Mother Show. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, he's got Asperger's Adam
• 2:38:23
  knowso and dude, he's funny. Yeah yeah, if any lucky'll
• 2:38:26
  think he's a lady. Well he doesn't think he's a werewolf,
• 2:38:30
  but yeah, dude, he's he's a beast. And like, we
• 2:38:32
  had a pretty cool group when we started, where we
• 2:38:35
  weren't kissing each other's ass. We were all just trying
• 2:38:38
  to figure it out. Great, so we would like criticize
• 2:38:40
  each other and like we've all done pretty well considering
• 2:38:44
  like where people have gone off to, you know, at
• 2:38:47
  least in the sense of making money and making a living,
• 2:38:49
  you know, making making people laugh, like And we were
• 2:38:52
  lucky because there was like ten different clubs in Detroit
• 2:38:55
  where you could go, like, Okay, I'll go do Ridley's
• 2:38:57
  in the suburbs, but then I can go to a
• 2:39:00
  super urban room, you know, in the city, and I
• 2:39:02
  can get used to that audience. Then I can go
• 2:39:04
  to ann Arburn, I can be in a bunch of
• 2:39:06
  in front of liberals at the showcase or at the
• 2:39:09
  Heidelberg Project, and then I can go you know, so
• 2:39:11
  you could go all over and you could experience every
• 2:39:15
  kind of audience you could ever be in front of
• 2:39:18
  at ten different places.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: And that's awesome.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 2: It was really cool.
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. We listen to this will been a lot
• 2:39:24
  of fun. Thank you.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: I really liked talking to I'm glad you're alive than.
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah stories, it's kind of a miracle that you made
• 2:39:31
  it this far. But you're a good dude, and it's
• 2:39:33
  always fun to have you at the club. It's been
• 2:39:35
  a lot of fun. Thank you. I'm excited to see
• 2:39:37
  you this weekend.
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Joe, thank you, very pleasure.
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 1: Brother tell everybody how they can find you all your
• 2:39:41
  stuff online.
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 2: You can go to Dave Landou dot com. I have
• 2:39:45
  everything on there. You can check out tour dates and everything.
• 2:39:47
  And also, yeah, I guess I brought up my book
• 2:39:50
  party of Wana Fuzzy Memoir. It did really well on Amazon.
• 2:39:54
  Nice and yeah, it's a lot of people have enjoyed
• 2:39:56
  it and a lot of the stories will be much
• 2:39:58
  funnier to you than they were for me to live,
• 2:40:01
  So you enjoy it
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 1: All right, beautiful, alright, thanks brother, thank you, Bye everybody.