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Emma McQuaid | The Athletes of the 2024 CrossFit Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  i was born to kill it I was meant to win
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  What's going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
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  My name is Scott Switch on the Clydesdale.
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  Happy 4th of July to you
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  people in the States.
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  To everybody else, happy Thursday.
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  We are so honored and
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  privileged to have with us
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  one of the CrossFit OG legends,
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  Emma McQuaid.
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  Emma, what's going on?
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  I'm good.
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  I'm good.
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  How are you?
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  I'm good.
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  I'm good.
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  So what's funny is you've
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  been on the show one other
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  time and it has been it was
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  exactly two years ago tomorrow.
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  No way.
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  That's awesome.
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  Yeah.
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  And so when we first had that conversation,
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  I don't you had just built
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  the home gym or you were
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  building the home gym.
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  Yeah, I think I was building.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And it has become like the,
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  the lore of legend of like
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  the greatest home gym ever built.
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  Yeah, we, we put a lot of work into it,
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  so I'm happy.
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  It kind of turned out,
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  it turned out really, really,
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  really well.
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  Yeah,
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  I was doing research and I found
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  Black Box did like a step
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  as you were kind of creating the gym,
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  little mini documentary of
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  you kind of doing it.
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  And then I'm going to pull
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  up on Instagram a couple of
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  videos that kind of show off your gym.
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  It has an outdoor piece and
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  an indoor piece.
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  yep yeah the outdoor gym is
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  like 3 200 square foot and
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  the indoor gym is 3 300
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  square foot yeah so pretty
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  big face so this is a video
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  on your instagram yeah
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  incredible that's the
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  outdoor yeah outdoor gym so
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  so what came first the
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  outdoor or the indoor
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  Yeah,
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  so the outdoor gym actually came
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  because of COVID.
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  So whenever COVID happened in Ireland,
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  they stipulated that you
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  could train with people in
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  an outdoor gym.
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  So I was like straight on to my husband.
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  I was like, we need an outdoor gym.
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  I was like, I need to train with people.
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  So that kind of happened very quickly.
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  And then once we made the new gym,
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  then we kind of extended
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  the outdoor gym a little
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  bit more just to kind of
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  blend in with the new gym.
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  And then the indoor piece,
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  I think this one highlights
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  it pretty well.
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  My goodness, the space you have.
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  Yeah, it's good.
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  Like obviously my husband
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  owning like a structural
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  engineering company.
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  So he obviously designed the freestanding,
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  like the freestanding rig
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  and stuff like that.
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  So obviously we just sort of
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  built the gym to have as much space,
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  floor space as possible.
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  So it was good that he was
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  able to help bring the
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  dream alive as well.
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  Yeah, I don't know if people can tell.
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  Of course, it just went off of that.
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  But you have a freestanding
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  rig with pull-up bars and
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  rings hanging from the
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  center of the ceiling.
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  And so it doesn't come down to the floor,
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  giving you all this
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  tremendous floor space.
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  Yeah, it's so good.
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  You can have so many people
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  working out at the same time.
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  And everyone has all their own space,
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  which is great.
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  No worry about the rig.
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  And then on the one wall,
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  you actually have individual... Yeah,
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  five individual racks where
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  if there's five people squatting,
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  each person has a
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  male-female bar and then
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  one full stack of weights each.
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  And it also looks like you
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  have the plexiglass stuff
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  on the wall for handstand push-ups.
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  Yeah, so again,
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  each of the five bays has the perspex,
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  we call it plexiglass.
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  Again, just to make it like,
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  no one likes to do
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  handstand push-ups up
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  against a brick wall,
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  so just to make it nice and comfortable.
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  Yeah, it is awesome.
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  And if you want to check it
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  out in more detail, go out to YouTube,
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  look for Emma McQuaid Home Gym.
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  And Black Box did this mini documentary.
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  It's like three or four episodes.
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  It's awesome.
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  Showing you as you build it.
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  Yeah, it was good.
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  So it's...
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  What's crazy is I live in Columbus, Ohio,
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  so I live where Rogue is.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  And when you go to their showroom,
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  that's what this looks like to me.
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  Yeah, well, I would,
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  if anyone knows me would agree,
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  I'm pretty like particular
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  about like the gym.
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  So I like to keep it like
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  really clean and tidy.
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  And I kind of like every
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  time someone goes into it,
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  it should just look like a brand new gym,
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  even like a year, year,
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  year and a half old.
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  And every picture I've seen of it,
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  it is spotless clean.
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  Yeah.
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  And you have like a little
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  lounge area too to just
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  kind of relax with like an elk out.
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  Yeah,
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  we did like a little like chill out area.
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  So like obviously your toilet, shower,
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  kitchen area, just like fridge, microwave,
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  coffee machine.
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  And then we also have the
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  big 12 seater sofa for
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  people just to come high and chill.
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  So my family don't even come
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  into my house anymore.
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  When my mum and dad and my
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  niece and nephew come down,
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  everyone's like, oh,
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  can we go out and play in the gym?
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  Well, my niece and nephew,
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  not my mum and dad.
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  So yes,
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  it's quite a nice like social area
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  as well.
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  Yeah.
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  I've been talking to Ariel
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  Lowen and now she's
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  building one and she wants
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  to be like you when she grows up.
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  Oh, I think I'm excited to see hers.
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  I think hers is going to be
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  called the Dan.
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  So I'm excited to see hers finished.
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  It'll be awesome as well.
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  Yeah.
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  On the outside, it looks very similar.
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  Like the structure looks
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  very similar to yours.
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  So I'm excited to see how it
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  all turns out.
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  Yeah.
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  I think they're taking a
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  break from building during
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  games training though.
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  Yeah,
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  I think I'll get divorced if I decide
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  to build anything else.
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  Yeah, it's awesome.
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  And so when you train out there,
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  are you alone most of the time?
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  Do you have training
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  partners that come out there a lot?
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  Is it ever going to be an affiliate?
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  And actually it is an
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  affiliate and I have affiliated it,
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  but it's just like a
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  private affiliate just so
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  basically I could do the
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  open and obviously
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  represent that the CrossFit Games,
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  which is always been a
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  dream to represent like my own gym.
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  So that's pretty cool this year.
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  But yeah, no,
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  I have like a pretty good groups,
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  you know, like I go.
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  I still go to my original
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  like Boundary Belfast like
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  the affiliate down there.
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  I train with a few of the
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  guys that's on like my online program.
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  I'm sharing with them every
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  monday and then I've got
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  like a couple of people
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  come out and train with me
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  on a tuesday wednesday and
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  a friday so um so yeah it's
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  quite nice I usually have
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  some someone for one
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  session a day no one really
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  wants to do the second or
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  third session but you know
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  I don't blame them um and
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  is it really close to your
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  house or is it like on the
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  I know you have pretty a
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  lot of property too right
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  Uh, yeah, like we, um, David, Steve,
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  his parents were very
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  grateful and to give us, uh,
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  very kind and give us like,
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  I think maybe we live on
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  like three acres.
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  So, um,
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  so like the house is in the middle
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  and literally my gym,
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  I could throw a stone and I'm there.
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  That's awesome.
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  Did I, do I, do I remember right that, um,
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  Peter from coffee pods and
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  what's came out to your, um,
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  your gym during quarters?
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  yeah yeah yeah so he he he
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  did a piece on my my ocd
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  yeah and it was really cool
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  kind of seeing because I
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  think I think quarterfinals
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  is the some of the best
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  programmed portion of the
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  season and most of the time
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  we don't get to see it
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  because it's done at home online yeah
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  So I love these little like
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  documentaries that people
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  are doing with athletes.
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  You can kind of get to see
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  those really cool events.
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  Oh yeah like as soon as
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  Peter messaged me I think
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  he messaged as soon as the
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  dates come out and he was
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  like can I come to yours
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  for quarters I was like
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  always I'm like that's
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  awesome because again as
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  you said like people don't
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  get to see the online
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  stages because you know
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  yeah you don't really have
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  time you can't set up like
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  an extra camera for like a live because
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  You know,
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  you have to make sure you have a camera,
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  a spare camera, and a spare, spare camera,
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  you know?
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  So, yeah,
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  and it just is that little bit
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  more stressful, I find,
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  like the online stages.
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  So,
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  you don't even want people there just
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  in case, like, you know,
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  you want to go at one o'clock,
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  but you don't feel good at one,
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  and then you end up going at three,
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  you know?
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  Yeah.
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  Kenny,
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  this year has worked quite weird
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  because we had such a long
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  time to do them.
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  I think it nearly made it worse.
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  I quite like having a
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  shorter space and it's just like, look,
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  go get it done and get on
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  with your weekend kind of thing.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I have conflicting views on
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  the whole thing for events.
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  It has to be so well programmed.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, to be able to make sure, cause you're,
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  you're threading a needle
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  from this big piece of yarn
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  at the quarter kind of
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  level to 40 people in Europe.
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  And that is like a,
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  such a deep pool of
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  athletes and you only get to take 40.
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  Like if that's not programmed, right?
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  Like,
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  you're going to miss on some people.
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  Oh, for sure.
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  My biggest concern this year
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  was that they were going to
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  throw 1RM in or something
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  stupid like double
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  crossover or something that
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  was going to affect judging
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  and counting and stuff, but like
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  hats off to like Castro and balls.
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  Like the walls were great.
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  The minus the step up is
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  probably a wee bit like of
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  a touchy subject.
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  Um, I like, I think,
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  I think they were awesome.
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  It definitely got the best
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  people to the next stage.
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  Um, and they were so well, so well rounded,
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  which is great.
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  The last couple of things on,
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  on the home gym is I
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  noticed a lot of purple accents.
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  Was that intentional?
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  Yeah, so like purple,
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  like growing up would be like,
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  would have been my favorite color.
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  So we just kind of had like
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  a couple of little like
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  sprinkles of it in,
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  but not kind of like overkill.
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  So I wanted to keep everything really,
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  really like just sort of
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  like that dark gray and
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  just like dark gray black.
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  And then I came up with the idea.
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  I was like, oh,
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  the jayhooks would be quite
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  cool with that metallic purple.
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  And that would just be that
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  small touch that would just set it off.
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  It looks awesome.
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  I love the way that purple sends off.
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  And purple is one of my favorite colors.
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  I used to do a job where I
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  signed contracts all day.
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  And so in order to make it
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  look like it's a live signature,
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  you can't use black ink.
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  Yes.
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  It could look like it's copied.
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  And so I would use a purple
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  pen to sign all my
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  contracts so it was obvious
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  it was a real signature.
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  Yeah.
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  And then with it being your
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  space and you get to keep
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  it as clean as you want it
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  and everything in your place,
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  what kind of comfort level
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  does that give you every
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  time you go in there?
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  Honestly,
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  it still doesn't even feel real
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  that I have my own gym.
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  Me and my husband,
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  I would do my programming
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  in there on a Sunday,
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  and I usually clean the
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  whole gym every Saturday,
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  so just full deep clean.
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  And you walk in on a Sunday morning,
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  and it's just like, oh.
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  I get so excited.
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  I'm like, oh, it's still brand new,
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  isn't it?
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  It just makes me proud.
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  Yeah, my gym just put in new flooring,
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  got a bunch of new equipment.
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  Man,
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  there's nothing like the clean floor
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  on a gym.
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  Yeah, it definitely sets it all for sure.
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  Yeah, it's great.
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  So I want to get into a
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  little bit of last year,
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  which didn't end the way
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  I'm guessing you wanted it
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  to end at the games.
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  No.
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  And I heard rumor you were
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  either sick or injured at
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  the games last year.
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  I did four vertebrae in my neck.
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  Oh, that's awful.
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  Yeah.
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  It was, it was terrible.
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  So what I've had,
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  I've had 12 back procedures,
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  but never up in my neck.
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  Yeah.
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  What was that?
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  What was that feeling?
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  Like you made it through the
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  best you could.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, no,
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  so basically we think it all kind
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  of like came from the rock
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  ring muscle up event.
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  So the so whenever I
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  whenever I practice the
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  rock event the very first
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  time I actually did OK and
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  I was like here we go like you know,
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  because I was I was a little bit nervous.
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  Obviously I don't do a lot of weighted
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  muscle ups um so I was a
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  little bit nervous it went
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  fine I did well I got
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  through it all I was like
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  okay so we'll just refine
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  this refine this and then
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  the second time the
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  following week I jumped up
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  but I literally couldn't do
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  one I was like
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  what has happened in a week
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  you know there was nothing
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  like I didn't I didn't I
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  didn't hurt it well not
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  that I thought um and then
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  we kind of every week
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  leading in the semi-finals
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  I got slightly worse and I
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  was like what is going on
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  but like I wasn't in pain
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  like there was no pain that
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  said like you're injured
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  there just was something
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  not right and so we powered on through
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  And then I think it was I
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  did my week off after semifinals.
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  Then the following week we
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  were doing like a
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  reintroduction to training.
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  So we were like started some
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  strongman stuff and I put
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  the yoke on my back and literally
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  everything shut down like I
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  literally I couldn't I
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  couldn't move I couldn't
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  walk like I could hardly
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  walk I couldn't breathe
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  like I literally couldn't
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  lift my hands any further
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  than like here I was like
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  my husband was there like
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  my camera girl was there
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  and one of my friends were
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  there and they were like
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  What the hell has happened?
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  So we kind of were in panic stations,
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  obviously,
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  because I couldn't drive for
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  nearly 10 days.
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  So everything was just a little bit scary.
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  I stupidly wouldn't get an
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  MRI because I was like, it'll settle.
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  It'll be fine.
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  I got on the flight.
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  I went over to Briggs for
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  the training camp.
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  It was not fine, you know,
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  and I kind of just did what I could do.
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  And then everything started to get better.
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  I was back up to like over
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  an 80 kilo snatch.
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  I was up to 105 clean and jerk.
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  I was back doing muscle ups.
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  I was back doing everything.
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  I was like, all right, we're good.
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  And then obviously, you know,
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  as you kind of taper down,
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  your volumes comes down.
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  So the pain comes down.
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  So I was like, I was like,
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  started the competition in no pain.
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  I was like, here we go.
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  And got onto the bike event
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  and I literally had no legs.
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  And I was like,
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  I couldn't like push the pedals.
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  And I was like,
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  Shit, maybe just first event, nerves, like,
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  we'll ride that off, we'll go again.
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  And then I can't remember
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  what the next event was,
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  but then we did wall balls
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  and the pig flip.
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  And literally the looking up
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  from the wall balls,
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  like completely whatever it did to the C4,
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  the top of my neck,
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  I started to lose all
• 16:20
  feeling in my left arm.
• 16:23
  So I was like, this isn't ideal.
• 16:25
  And then they announced the next event,
• 16:27
  which was freestanding handstand pushups.
• 16:29
  So then I started to land on my neck.
• 16:33
  So that wasn't ideal either.
• 16:36
  And then I think then the
• 16:38
  final straw was the sandbag
• 16:40
  resting on my neck.
• 16:43
  So it was kind of like a
• 16:44
  series of let's get a
• 16:46
  McQuaid out of the games,
• 16:47
  because it was like wall balls,
• 16:48
  handstand pushups,
• 16:49
  and then a 70 or 65 kilo
• 16:52
  sandbag compressing on my neck.
• 16:53
  So it was just kind of like
• 16:55
  the order of each event led
• 16:56
  into the next one that just made it worse,
• 16:59
  worse, worse.
• 17:00
  So yeah, after the sandbag event,
• 17:02
  I think Sam sort of seen my
• 17:04
  face and got me straight
• 17:06
  outside because I had no,
• 17:08
  completely couldn't move my left arm.
• 17:11
  I had no power.
• 17:12
  I couldn't even,
• 17:12
  I couldn't even have held
• 17:14
  my phone on my left hand.
• 17:15
  Like I was completely gone.
• 17:17
  I was starting to like,
• 17:19
  wasn't able to bring my
• 17:20
  feet back up again.
• 17:22
  So like I sort of like
• 17:25
  whatever was going on,
• 17:26
  I was sort of losing the signal.
• 17:28
  So went to the medic, checked me out.
• 17:31
  They were like, no, you're done.
• 17:32
  And sent me straight to hospital.
• 17:35
  Madison, Wisconsin Hospital got bloods,
• 17:37
  got CT scan.
• 17:40
  They were amazing.
• 17:41
  You know, like the medic team are like,
• 17:43
  I think no one,
• 17:45
  hopefully no one needs to use them.
• 17:46
  But if you do need to use
• 17:48
  the medic team at the games,
• 17:49
  like they are incredible.
• 17:51
  Like they just made sure
• 17:52
  like there wasn't a pinched nerve.
• 17:55
  You know, they did all the right things.
• 17:57
  You know,
• 17:58
  as soon as I told my physio what
• 17:59
  they've done, they were like, wow,
• 18:00
  like that's awesome.
• 18:02
  you know um then obviously
• 18:04
  flew home got an mri and
• 18:06
  then realized I had um
• 18:09
  like a bone deformity on C4
• 18:12
  and then I had like C4, 5,
• 18:14
  6 and then down to T1 was all injured.
• 18:21
  So it's like still taking a
• 18:24
  bit of time to like get
• 18:26
  back into full training.
• 18:27
  And like I've only really
• 18:29
  got a yoke on my back two
• 18:30
  weeks ago for the first
• 18:32
  time from like the games,
• 18:34
  like from last year from the injury.
• 18:36
  and so it's a full year
• 18:38
  nearly to get get myself
• 18:39
  back to where I am now and
• 18:41
  that was just through rest
• 18:43
  no no surgery or anything
• 18:44
  no we rested so we actually
• 18:47
  we rested right up until
• 18:48
  like um sort of like
• 18:49
  September October and then
• 18:51
  we started to try our best
• 18:52
  to like intro training in
• 18:54
  and that didn't really work
• 18:56
  so it was nearly like
• 18:56
  December and then we made
• 18:59
  the decision I think it was
• 19:02
  the start of January we went
• 19:03
  back to the surgeon and we
• 19:05
  were like right how can I
• 19:06
  get this season done and he
• 19:09
  he did four cortisone
• 19:11
  injections in the each side
• 19:13
  of the vertebrae just to
• 19:15
  try and like settle I had
• 19:17
  like mass inflammation at that point so
• 19:19
  that's what was continuing
• 19:21
  to cause the pain and
• 19:22
  because we've done all like
• 19:23
  the you know like
• 19:25
  strengthening that we could
• 19:26
  do in the area and but the
• 19:28
  mass inflammation was
• 19:29
  stopping like me being able
• 19:31
  to fully lock out my arms
• 19:33
  and to be able to like
• 19:34
  press it to do a jerk or do
• 19:36
  whatever so we got the four
• 19:38
  cortisone injections either
• 19:39
  side of the spine and then
• 19:41
  like the pain started to to
• 19:43
  ease which then allowed me
• 19:45
  to help strengthen it even
• 19:46
  more and get back into training.
• 19:50
  So as an athlete,
• 19:51
  when these things are happening,
• 19:52
  you said you didn't get an MRI.
• 19:54
  Is it because, like,
• 19:56
  it's easier to push through
• 19:57
  when you don't know what it is?
• 19:58
  Yeah, I think so.
• 20:01
  I think so.
• 20:01
  I think if someone told me, like,
• 20:03
  I kind of, like,
• 20:04
  chipped a bone in my neck
• 20:05
  and I was going to be going
• 20:06
  into a competition with a chipped bone,
• 20:09
  I would be like, well,
• 20:10
  that's probably really
• 20:12
  stupid and I shouldn't do it.
• 20:13
  But if you aren't told you
• 20:15
  have a chipped bone in your
• 20:16
  neck and you're going to do more damage,
• 20:17
  you're like, well, sure.
• 20:20
  on not like don't recommend
• 20:24
  it don't do it but like
• 20:25
  yeah I did well and your
• 20:27
  very good friend sam briggs
• 20:29
  is very known for like
• 20:31
  pushing through pain is
• 20:33
  that something you two have in common
• 20:36
  taught me well I would say
• 20:40
  like from when I was a kid
• 20:42
  like obviously racing quad
• 20:43
  bikes and stuff I was 16 I
• 20:46
  broke my wrist I skated
• 20:48
  forward I chipped my
• 20:49
  tailbone in the same day
• 20:50
  and two weeks later I was
• 20:52
  back racing my quad bike I
• 20:53
  got my dad to cut my cast
• 20:55
  off so I was like it's
• 20:56
  either you're cutting it
• 20:57
  off or I am so he thought
• 20:59
  it was the responsible
• 21:00
  thing to do and he did it so you know I'm
• 21:05
  yeah I'm stubborn I'm gonna
• 21:06
  keep going until something
• 21:07
  falls off yeah that that's
• 21:11
  crazy like it my mom
• 21:12
  probably would have taken
• 21:13
  the keys to the quad bike
• 21:14
  so I couldn't have started
• 21:16
  yeah there's there was no
• 21:18
  stopping me I would have
• 21:19
  got my granddad or someone
• 21:20
  to take me to the racing so he knows
• 21:24
  i say that but I was a
• 21:25
  swimmer growing up and I
• 21:27
  broke my thumb my sophomore
• 21:29
  year in high school so 10th
• 21:30
  grade year and I they put a
• 21:32
  cast on it I swam three
• 21:34
  meets with the cast on and
• 21:37
  it probably ruined my
• 21:39
  stroke for the rest of my
• 21:40
  career but yeah but I just
• 21:42
  I was so stubborn I was
• 21:43
  gonna swim regardless yeah
• 21:45
  like it's getting one of
• 21:46
  those things like
• 21:48
  if you qualify for the CrossFit Games,
• 21:50
  you're going to the
• 21:51
  CrossFit Games and you're
• 21:52
  going to give it everything you have.
• 21:53
  And, you know,
• 21:54
  obviously it's so hard going
• 21:56
  out and knowing like, well,
• 21:58
  obviously every time I went out,
• 21:59
  I was like, you know, God, Chris,
• 22:01
  this one, like, I'll be fine.
• 22:02
  I'll be fine.
• 22:02
  And my body was just like, no, you're not,
• 22:05
  you know,
• 22:05
  but I went in with the mental
• 22:08
  attitude that I was going to,
• 22:10
  I was going to do well.
• 22:12
  So you talk about the medical team,
• 22:13
  which I started my CrossFit
• 22:16
  life in the sport as a volunteer.
• 22:19
  Those guys, the medical volunteers,
• 22:23
  I don't think people
• 22:23
  realize what high-end
• 22:25
  doctors give up a week of
• 22:27
  their vacation to go just
• 22:29
  hang out at the CrossFit
• 22:30
  games and help on the medical team.
• 22:34
  Yeah, it's incredible.
• 22:36
  Yeah, like hats off,
• 22:38
  obviously CrossFit have to
• 22:39
  organise all that as well.
• 22:41
  So hats off to them for
• 22:42
  making sure that obviously
• 22:44
  the athletes have the best
• 22:46
  possible like service of like of a team,
• 22:51
  you know, like.
• 22:52
  the um I don't know I can't
• 22:54
  remember the the guy that
• 22:55
  looked after me but like he
• 22:57
  was so on the ball like he
• 22:58
  was texting me like the
• 22:59
  next day he was like how
• 23:01
  are you can I come and see
• 23:02
  you or come over to the
• 23:04
  coliseum because they're in
• 23:05
  the coliseum um you know
• 23:07
  and like they have like
• 23:08
  they have an x-ray
• 23:10
  backstage in the coliseum
• 23:12
  as well which is like like
• 23:14
  what the frick like I never
• 23:16
  knew they had an x-ray
• 23:16
  machine that you know over
• 23:17
  there so like if someone
• 23:19
  like straight away
• 23:20
  obviously the x-ray you
• 23:22
  know just to make sure um
• 23:23
  and like it was it was an
• 23:26
  eye-opening experience
• 23:28
  obviously to be able to say
• 23:30
  like we're in good hands if
• 23:31
  something goes wrong yeah
• 23:34
  and you so you were
• 23:35
  medically withdrawn from
• 23:36
  the competition once yeah
• 23:38
  let's go numb that's scary
• 23:40
  yeah it was it was getting
• 23:42
  it was getting scary for sure
• 23:44
  what,
• 23:45
  so there's been a lot of talk over
• 23:46
  the last couple of years with,
• 23:48
  with Roman going back out
• 23:49
  on the floor with a broken foot and,
• 23:51
  you know, my gosh, Sam legendary going,
• 23:55
  playing through so much pain.
• 23:57
  What are your thoughts about
• 23:59
  medical withdrawals?
• 24:00
  Do you think it should be
• 24:00
  left up to the athlete or
• 24:02
  should medical have the
• 24:03
  authority to pull you from
• 24:05
  the competition?
• 24:06
  Um,
• 24:09
  At the end of the day, like, obviously,
• 24:11
  they're the professionals.
• 24:12
  I think, like, you're also an adult.
• 24:14
  So it's, like, a conversation is best had.
• 24:19
  And, like,
• 24:20
  as long as you're not going to
• 24:22
  damage yourself further for later life,
• 24:25
  you know, it's sort of 50-50.
• 24:28
  You know, if you're not... Like, for me,
• 24:31
  like, they were just like,
• 24:32
  you can't feel your hand.
• 24:34
  Like, you know,
• 24:35
  how are you meant to lift the barbell,
• 24:36
  et cetera, et cetera.
• 24:37
  So it's, like, the most...
• 24:39
  Like, how could I have competed?
• 24:41
  You know, kind of thing.
• 24:42
  But, you know,
• 24:43
  if I broke my finger and I'd be like,
• 24:45
  look, here, I'll be fine.
• 24:48
  You know, it's my finger kind of thing.
• 24:49
  You know,
• 24:50
  I think it's just like the injury
• 24:54
  will dictate whether the medical staff,
• 24:57
  you know,
• 24:57
  they'll know when to withdraw you.
• 24:59
  But I think like with Roman...
• 25:01
  You know, it was a night goal.
• 25:03
  I think like Briggs has,
• 25:06
  she competed one of the
• 25:07
  years at the regionals with it.
• 25:09
  Maybe it was like 2014 or 15 or something.
• 25:14
  She competed one of the
• 25:15
  years and she had done the
• 25:17
  exact same bit that Roman
• 25:19
  had done before.
• 25:21
  So like it was,
• 25:23
  it was significant at the time,
• 25:24
  but it wasn't like a, you know,
• 25:26
  a long-term threat for him to continue.
• 25:31
  I've talked to Emily Rolfe a lot.
• 25:33
  We documented her, her case where she was,
• 25:37
  she was pulled from medically,
• 25:39
  but she fought right up
• 25:40
  until the bitter end to get
• 25:41
  back out on the,
• 25:42
  on the competition floor.
• 25:43
  Yeah.
• 25:44
  And when the color started
• 25:45
  coming back in her arms, she's like, see,
• 25:47
  I'm good.
• 25:47
  I'm good.
• 25:48
  And finally they did an ultrasound,
• 25:51
  found out there was no
• 25:51
  blood flow and they're like, no, you,
• 25:54
  you can't.
• 25:55
  Yeah.
• 25:56
  It's a conversation.
• 25:57
  Yeah.
• 25:58
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  you know I think like the
• 26:00
  conversations had like
• 26:04
  uh-oh hopefully it's just
• 26:07
  her getting a call and
• 26:10
  she'll be back here in a
• 26:11
  second um but yeah love
• 26:19
  love that x there she is
• 26:21
  sorry that's okay that's my
• 26:23
  car ready oh my god where's the signal
• 26:29
  I've been doing this long enough.
• 26:31
  I can't hear you.
• 26:32
  Uh-oh.
• 26:38
  Can you hear me?
• 26:39
  I can hear you fine.
• 26:41
  I've lost the... There's no sign.
• 26:51
  So, Emma, can you go out and come back in?
• 27:05
  Can you hear me now?
• 27:06
  Can you hear me?
• 27:07
  I can hear you.
• 27:08
  Can you hear me?
• 27:09
  I can't hear you.
• 27:09
  Oh no.
• 27:10
  Whatever's happened.
• 27:12
  Oh no.
• 27:29
  I just sent you a, I sent you a message.
• 27:32
  Okay.
• 27:35
  Oh, we're back.
• 27:37
  Can you hear me?
• 27:38
  Yeah.
• 27:39
  Sorry.
• 27:39
  They were ringing up by my car.
• 27:43
  I've done this enough.
• 27:44
  I know like when someone's on a phone, if,
• 27:46
  if a call comes in,
• 27:47
  it like takes you out of our view.
• 27:50
  So your screen just goes
• 27:51
  black for a second.
• 27:53
  But I could see you and hear you.
• 27:55
  It just must've done
• 27:55
  something to your settings.
• 27:57
  Yeah.
• 27:58
  So yeah,
• 27:59
  I'm just ringing my car as in for
• 28:00
  service.
• 28:01
  So they're probably just
• 28:01
  telling me now it's ready.
• 28:04
  Okay.
• 28:06
  So,
• 28:07
  so you have that disappointing year at
• 28:09
  the games, how much,
• 28:13
  then what is the off season?
• 28:14
  Like you want to get back to it, right?
• 28:15
  You want to kind of erase
• 28:16
  the memory of that year and
• 28:19
  get back to a new season.
• 28:21
  How tough is the off season
• 28:22
  after that occurs?
• 28:25
  I think I really struggled
• 28:26
  quite a lot because there
• 28:27
  was so much uncertainty.
• 28:30
  There was no, like, you know,
• 28:31
  my physio was puzzled.
• 28:33
  My coach was puzzled.
• 28:34
  You know,
• 28:35
  we've never really dealt with
• 28:37
  this kind of injury before.
• 28:38
  There was no protocol.
• 28:42
  You know, it's not like, say,
• 28:44
  your shoulder.
• 28:45
  You know, it's like, okay, we're going to,
• 28:47
  six weeks we'll be able to do this, this,
• 28:49
  this, this, this,
• 28:50
  where I was just like waking up
• 28:53
  was like can I move my head
• 28:55
  oh today's a good day you
• 28:57
  know like can I do my hair
• 28:59
  oh that's a good day you
• 29:00
  know so um obviously it was
• 29:03
  like super stressful and
• 29:05
  annoying probably like my
• 29:07
  coach definitely earned his
• 29:08
  money this year um you know
• 29:10
  because like we we really
• 29:12
  had to speak nearly every
• 29:14
  day to every other day and
• 29:16
  like I have to admit training
• 29:19
  sucked because we couldn't
• 29:21
  really make changes to the
• 29:22
  program because we were trying to be like,
• 29:25
  OK, we can do this, this, this and this.
• 29:28
  So then it was nearly like
• 29:30
  you added one exercise a week, you know,
• 29:32
  just to make sure it wasn't this and this,
• 29:36
  you know, so like my strength was very,
• 29:38
  very, very, very the same,
• 29:40
  very repetitive, very boring.
• 29:41
  And then we just tried to add like, OK,
• 29:44
  that didn't aggravate the neck.
• 29:46
  So we'll continue that for a week.
• 29:47
  we'll add something else in.
• 29:49
  That didn't annoy it,
• 29:49
  we'll add something else in.
• 29:51
  You know, so it was just, it was crap,
• 29:55
  to be honest.
• 29:56
  Like, it wasn't enjoyable.
• 29:59
  I've honestly had probably
• 30:00
  the worst nine months of
• 30:01
  training of my life.
• 30:03
  But it's kind of one of those things that,
• 30:04
  like, it needed done.
• 30:07
  so yeah uh off season it
• 30:10
  wasn't it wasn't good but I
• 30:11
  was very good this year
• 30:13
  usually I would just block
• 30:14
  myself off go full dark not
• 30:18
  speak to anyone just be
• 30:20
  like look I can't share
• 30:21
  with you guys so you just
• 30:23
  go and have fun and but I
• 30:25
  was better at like trying
• 30:26
  to bring people in and
• 30:29
  even just do something with them,
• 30:31
  but I'm still doing my boring stuff.
• 30:34
  So I did,
• 30:35
  I did rely a lot more on people
• 30:38
  this off season,
• 30:40
  obviously to keep me sane.
• 30:41
  That's a, that's a big step.
• 30:43
  I know that I still struggle
• 30:44
  with that and I'm,
• 30:45
  I'm much older than you are.
• 30:46
  And I struggle when I'm,
• 30:49
  when I'm in those dark
• 30:49
  places of like not feeling
• 30:51
  good or not being injured,
• 30:53
  it's hard to ask for help
• 30:55
  and at hard to like be
• 30:56
  around people who are capable of
• 30:59
  Yeah,
• 30:59
  it's it's being around people because
• 31:01
  like they're getting to do fun.
• 31:03
  You know I I love I love
• 31:05
  going to an affiliate on a
• 31:06
  Saturday and doing like
• 31:07
  their class workout and
• 31:09
  just being a part of the
• 31:10
  community and throwing down
• 31:12
  and not be able to do that
• 31:13
  for nearly like nine months was hard.
• 31:16
  And so I just tried to make
• 31:18
  sure that I made the best out of my week.
• 31:21
  You know,
• 31:21
  like having even if it's just
• 31:22
  like one cardio session
• 31:24
  with this group of friends and.
• 31:25
  another cardio session with
• 31:26
  this group of friends.
• 31:27
  And then it didn't make
• 31:29
  Saturday feel as bad that I
• 31:31
  couldn't join in the community.
• 31:32
  Cause I kind of got a little
• 31:33
  bit of it during the week.
• 31:35
  Yeah.
• 31:36
  Yeah.
• 31:36
  Yeah.
• 31:36
  That makes sense.
• 31:37
  Um,
• 31:38
  so where was there ever a part where
• 31:40
  like the open comes and you're like,
• 31:42
  please don't have this movement or were,
• 31:46
  because I,
• 31:46
  you'd said earlier that there
• 31:47
  was some things you've just
• 31:49
  started doing a couple of weeks ago.
• 31:51
  Yeah, for sure.
• 31:53
  Yeah,
• 31:53
  well obviously like we knew like the
• 31:55
  sandbag and the yoke and
• 31:59
  you know weighted moss
• 31:59
  slops wasn't coming in the
• 32:01
  open so there wasn't that stress.
• 32:04
  Kind of the next stress was
• 32:06
  I was hoping there was no
• 32:07
  1RMs again because I kind
• 32:09
  of hadn't got my numbers back up yet.
• 32:12
  I was very shocked that how
• 32:15
  bad the burpee over the dumbbell actually
• 32:19
  was for me because a bar
• 32:21
  facing burpee you can kind
• 32:23
  of like laterally step and
• 32:26
  it put my spine in a
• 32:27
  different position so I
• 32:28
  didn't realize I was weak
• 32:30
  um but the the burpee over
• 32:32
  the dumbbell where I had to
• 32:33
  go into like more of a
• 32:34
  hunch to get over that way
• 32:36
  so it was more in a hunch
• 32:37
  position was so weak for
• 32:40
  that part of my spine um so
• 32:43
  the first work I was actually very very
• 32:45
  humbling and an eye opener to realize, huh,
• 32:49
  we're still really weak in that position,
• 32:50
  you know, but again,
• 32:51
  I kind of think that it all
• 32:53
  kind of came at a nice stage, you know,
• 32:55
  so I was able to be like, okay,
• 32:57
  so we need to address this weakness.
• 32:59
  We started to work on that there,
• 33:00
  building that strength and
• 33:01
  that hunch position, that mid-back.
• 33:05
  the second workout then I
• 33:06
  was like right okay I have
• 33:07
  to express that I'm still
• 33:09
  fit I'm still capable so
• 33:11
  then that was actually
• 33:12
  quite a nice workout for me
• 33:13
  to then start to showcase
• 33:14
  like I'm still good enough
• 33:16
  to make the crossfit games
• 33:17
  again and then that for me
• 33:19
  was like the momentum that
• 33:21
  I needed so when you're
• 33:23
  when you're in the open you
• 33:24
  only need to make top 25
• 33:25
  which you can probably do
• 33:28
  at 50% or 70% or whatever, but,
• 33:32
  but you're getting data
• 33:33
  back to whether it's going
• 33:35
  to be a good season or bad season.
• 33:37
  Yeah, for sure.
• 33:37
  And so how much, and so week one,
• 33:40
  you get data back that, Ooh,
• 33:42
  we got to get better here.
• 33:43
  Week two though,
• 33:45
  you explode and you start
• 33:47
  feeling better and get some confidence.
• 33:49
  Did, did confidence once week two happened,
• 33:52
  keep growing over the
• 33:53
  season or did you have other setbacks?
• 33:56
  And no, we didn't have any setbacks,
• 33:58
  thankfully.
• 34:01
  No, like, yeah,
• 34:02
  I think it was just that week on week,
• 34:04
  just kept building that confidence,
• 34:06
  but also trying to like,
• 34:08
  you're building confidence,
• 34:09
  but you're like,
• 34:09
  don't get too far ahead of yourself,
• 34:11
  you know,
• 34:12
  because obviously once you start
• 34:13
  like building confidence,
• 34:15
  sometimes you can like, be like,
• 34:17
  I'm superhero, I can do everything again.
• 34:19
  So it was like still trying
• 34:20
  to hold yourself back.
• 34:21
  It's like, we're only started legs,
• 34:24
  rope climbs, muscle ups, et cetera.
• 34:26
  I don't even think I've done
• 34:28
  a handstand pushup.
• 34:30
  So I was just like,
• 34:31
  Just calm down, calm down,
• 34:33
  do what you can do and just
• 34:34
  keep building safely into the season.
• 34:38
  So then you get to
• 34:38
  semifinals and we've talked
• 34:40
  about already.
• 34:41
  Europe is so deep.
• 34:43
  So how much, I don't know how to,
• 34:50
  how much confidence do you
• 34:51
  have now in this deep field
• 34:53
  in Europe that you are
• 34:54
  going to make the games or is it,
• 34:56
  do you have to work your
• 34:58
  ass off to do it?
• 35:00
  As soon as the workouts
• 35:02
  actually came out and I tested them all,
• 35:04
  I was just like, like I was like, yeah,
• 35:07
  we're going back to the CrossFit Games.
• 35:08
  You know, like I was,
• 35:10
  I was just like really
• 35:11
  excited and they were all like pretty,
• 35:14
  like I wouldn't say there
• 35:15
  was any like home run workouts,
• 35:17
  but there were,
• 35:17
  there was no like real big
• 35:19
  bottleneck workouts for me.
• 35:21
  So I was really excited
• 35:23
  until Wednesday before and
• 35:25
  I took a tummy bug.
• 35:27
  Which wasn't good.
• 35:29
  So I actually ended up in
• 35:30
  bed for 18 hours sleeping
• 35:33
  on the Wednesday before semifinals.
• 35:36
  Wow, yeah, but.
• 35:39
  One of my lovely clients, I think,
• 35:41
  gave it to me because the week after,
• 35:44
  every single one of them were sick.
• 35:46
  So thanks to them,
• 35:48
  that nearly ruined my season.
• 35:51
  There's this unfortunate bug
• 35:52
  that has actually hit the
• 35:54
  whole of Northern Ireland.
• 35:57
  People were going down left,
• 35:59
  right and centre.
• 36:00
  So it was a really
• 36:01
  aggressive 48-hour tummy bug.
• 36:04
  And you had a very consistent semifinal.
• 36:08
  Yeah, it just was survival.
• 36:13
  Other than event four,
• 36:14
  and was it because you were
• 36:16
  sick or have you not been inverted a lot?
• 36:18
  Because that was the row handstand walk,
• 36:20
  right?
• 36:21
  Yeah,
• 36:22
  at that point I panicked because
• 36:23
  that's what I said to my coach, Joyce.
• 36:26
  I was like, I was so flat.
• 36:31
  The last meal I had was
• 36:32
  Tuesday night and this was
• 36:34
  obviously Sunday.
• 36:35
  So by Sunday, I felt great,
• 36:39
  but I had nothing in me.
• 36:43
  like I literally was living
• 36:45
  on Coca-Cola and uh Imodium
• 36:49
  for the for the three days
• 36:52
  so like there was just
• 36:53
  nothing in my body so like
• 36:55
  I actually was so flat on
• 36:56
  the Sunday morning but
• 36:58
  thankfully we had like I
• 36:59
  think we had like maybe two
• 37:00
  and a half hour gap we went
• 37:02
  straight back to the hotel
• 37:03
  I went straight to bed um and then
• 37:07
  I force fed like a bagel
• 37:08
  with like jam because I
• 37:10
  knew we had the snatch
• 37:11
  workout so I was thinking
• 37:12
  about fueling for the next
• 37:13
  workout for the final so I
• 37:15
  like force fed bagel jam
• 37:17
  banana and I think my
• 37:20
  sister went and got me like
• 37:22
  more like fruit so like I
• 37:24
  actually had some solids in
• 37:25
  me then for the rest of the
• 37:27
  Sunday um were yeah the
• 37:29
  Sunday morning I I was dead no I was yeah
• 37:34
  So with the snatch workout,
• 37:36
  was there any worry there
• 37:37
  with your neck or have you
• 37:38
  been snatching?
• 37:39
  Oh,
• 37:40
  there was worry because I've only hit
• 37:42
  80 kilo snatch once from
• 37:45
  last year's games training
• 37:47
  from I hurt my neck.
• 37:48
  So there was,
• 37:49
  but thankfully the way Europe lanes were,
• 37:54
  my coach was actually able
• 37:56
  to be quite close because I
• 37:57
  was on the outer lane and I
• 38:00
  told him to walk along the
• 38:01
  lane and just shout, go.
• 38:04
  want me to lift and that's what I did.
• 38:06
  I just went complete zombie mode.
• 38:08
  You know,
• 38:08
  like obviously just not usually
• 38:10
  like I don't need anyone
• 38:11
  because I'm like so focused,
• 38:13
  but I just was a bit like
• 38:15
  foggy so I just literally
• 38:17
  shut off and I was like all
• 38:19
  I have to do is snatch as
• 38:20
  soon as I hear go.
• 38:22
  Go and that's what I did.
• 38:25
  So I just I didn't even
• 38:26
  think I didn't think about the weight.
• 38:27
  All I heard was go.
• 38:30
  I'm so envious of the
• 38:32
  European semifinal because
• 38:34
  I think because there's so
• 38:35
  many different countries
• 38:36
  represented in one event
• 38:39
  and there's national pride
• 38:42
  along with like your
• 38:42
  favorite CrossFitter.
• 38:44
  It gets so loud and so insane.
• 38:48
  I'd love to go to one someday.
• 38:51
  It's just so cool.
• 38:53
  Yeah, like this year,
• 38:55
  like I just remember being
• 38:56
  on the floor with Andrea
• 38:58
  Soulsberg and the whole
• 39:00
  crowd like clapping,
• 39:03
  shouting for her to get
• 39:04
  that final snatch bar.
• 39:06
  I mean, it was, it was mental.
• 39:10
  It was so, so good.
• 39:11
  Like I haven't seen a
• 39:12
  semifinals with the
• 39:14
  atmosphere that we had this year.
• 39:17
  When any French athlete took the floor,
• 39:19
  it was insane.
• 39:20
  Oh, wow.
• 39:21
  The drums going was crazy.
• 39:24
  Yeah.
• 39:25
  Yeah.
• 39:25
  I wish we had that in the United States,
• 39:27
  but because we're all one country,
• 39:30
  it's really just you're
• 39:31
  rooting for your favorite athlete.
• 39:32
  Yeah.
• 39:33
  Yeah.
• 39:34
  It's different.
• 39:35
  Yeah.
• 39:35
  It just doesn't have that same intensity.
• 39:39
  So the last event, I don't think...
• 39:42
  I think Boz has been asked, like,
• 39:44
  did you test this,
• 39:46
  the length of that lunge?
• 39:47
  And he said no.
• 39:48
  Okay.
• 39:51
  But yet it was like the
• 39:52
  perfect length that some
• 39:54
  people were going to make it,
• 39:55
  some people weren't,
• 39:57
  and it devastated some people.
• 40:00
  oh my God, like that, it was just like,
• 40:03
  you didn't know who was going to get in,
• 40:05
  you know, it did leave it quite exciting,
• 40:07
  you know,
• 40:08
  but it was also very scary for
• 40:10
  an athlete.
• 40:10
  You're like, am I going to make it?
• 40:12
  Yeah.
• 40:13
  Yeah.
• 40:13
  Did you have a strategy to that?
• 40:15
  Because like when we're calm
• 40:18
  on the sidelines as media people,
• 40:20
  you're like,
• 40:20
  all they have to do is finish
• 40:22
  like top 15 and they're in
• 40:24
  just set the dumbbells down.
• 40:27
  shake it out and go and
• 40:28
  you're only costing
• 40:29
  yourself a couple seconds
• 40:30
  but if you drop them and
• 40:32
  then have to pick them up
• 40:33
  and take them back that's
• 40:35
  like a 20 second minimum yeah
• 40:39
  Yeah, no, I had a plan.
• 40:40
  You know, I knew my bike PSI.
• 40:43
  I knew I was going 10 and
• 40:44
  five on the rings and yeah,
• 40:46
  I knew I was going on
• 40:47
  broken on the on the lunch.
• 40:50
  We did kind of think before
• 40:53
  I watched the previous heat
• 40:55
  we were just like forget
• 40:56
  what we just take a risk
• 40:57
  and go for blow going
• 40:58
  broken and then I seen
• 41:00
  multiple athletes feel the
• 41:02
  lunch and I was like 10 and five.
• 41:04
  We're not taking no risks.
• 41:06
  Don't need to be a superhero.
• 41:07
  Let's just get the job done.
• 41:09
  You know,
• 41:09
  because obviously like it was a
• 41:10
  good workout for me and my gymnastics.
• 41:12
  And even though it's not as
• 41:14
  strong as what it was previously,
• 41:16
  the neck injury,
• 41:17
  it's still getting back to where it was.
• 41:20
  And week on week we're getting stronger.
• 41:23
  So like I would have been fairly confident,
• 41:25
  you know, I could have went unbroken.
• 41:26
  But then I was like,
• 41:27
  for just that last section
• 41:30
  would have been would have
• 41:30
  been getting Bernie.
• 41:31
  So I was like,
• 41:31
  there's no point taking a
• 41:34
  risk when I know I can finish this,
• 41:36
  you know, sub four.
• 41:38
  Yeah.
• 41:38
  Yeah.
• 41:39
  It was so much fun to watch, but it,
• 41:42
  my heart broke for some of
• 41:43
  the athletes that just,
• 41:44
  they went from a qualifying
• 41:46
  position to out.
• 41:48
  Yeah.
• 41:49
  Some people went from like a
• 41:52
  good bit out to like jumping in.
• 41:54
  Like that was the craziest bit.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 41:57
  It was crazy.
• 41:58
  And in Europe and North America,
• 42:00
  both they're so deep that
• 42:02
  like that can happen.
• 42:04
  Yeah.
• 42:05
  Oh, it's crazy.
• 42:06
  But it, you know, obviously it keeps,
• 42:09
  it keeps it,
• 42:10
  it keeps the excitement as well, you know,
• 42:11
  right to the end.
• 42:12
  Like the, it wasn't,
• 42:14
  nothing was confirmed until,
• 42:16
  till that final event, you know,
• 42:17
  for most sort of people.
• 42:20
  So I want to dive in.
• 42:21
  You're going back to the CrossFit games.
• 42:23
  You've, you've made it through the year.
• 42:25
  You're,
• 42:26
  you're getting back to full
• 42:27
  strength again.
• 42:28
  How excited are you to go to
• 42:30
  the new venue in Texas?
• 42:32
  Yeah, no, I'm absolutely buzzing.
• 42:35
  I go out on the 24th, 25th of July now,
• 42:39
  out to Fort Worth.
• 42:40
  So I'll be out there sort of like, what,
• 42:43
  two and a half weeks leading in.
• 42:44
  So yeah,
• 42:45
  I'm really excited to see the venue,
• 42:48
  see around it,
• 42:49
  like just get familiar with Texas.
• 42:52
  Yeah, it's going to be awesome.
• 42:54
  Not looking forward to the heat, but like,
• 42:56
  yeah,
• 42:56
  it's going to be a scene for everyone.
• 42:58
  Are you doing anything to
• 42:59
  try to acclimate to the heat?
• 43:01
  like I bought sauna so like
• 43:04
  I'm in the sauna every
• 43:05
  night like that's all I can
• 43:06
  do like we live in we live
• 43:08
  in Northern Ireland we've
• 43:09
  got like a freaking storm
• 43:12
  coming back in it's cold
• 43:13
  again we've got jumpers
• 43:15
  back on again it's it's
• 43:17
  yeah unfortunately living
• 43:18
  living here where we've got
• 43:20
  more rain and then we do
• 43:22
  sunshine it's it's hard to prep
• 43:25
  Yeah.
• 43:25
  I heard, um,
• 43:27
  yellow host to say in an interview,
• 43:29
  I think yesterday he puts
• 43:31
  his biker in the sauna.
• 43:33
  Yeah.
• 43:34
  My coach is on about doing that next week.
• 43:36
  So yeah,
• 43:37
  we're going to give that a go just
• 43:39
  to kind of, you know,
• 43:40
  work out somewhat in the,
• 43:42
  in a hot environment.
• 43:44
  Um,
• 43:46
  it's going to be horrible
• 43:47
  but yeah that's the plan
• 43:49
  next week we're going to
• 43:49
  give that a go so I've been
• 43:51
  in the sauna now every day
• 43:52
  for two weeks just trying
• 43:54
  to do like 20 minutes and
• 43:56
  then next week for two
• 43:57
  weeks we'll do we'll try
• 43:59
  and do you know at least at
• 44:01
  least 10 minutes of like
• 44:03
  exercise in the sauna yeah
• 44:06
  I think have you scheduled
• 44:08
  your interview with Dave
• 44:09
  Castro yet no not yet so
• 44:12
  have you watched any of them
• 44:14
  Yeah, yeah.
• 44:15
  They're really good.
• 44:16
  Yeah,
• 44:17
  I think he's leaking information in them,
• 44:19
  which is making them almost
• 44:20
  essential to watch.
• 44:22
  I think he said with Danny
• 44:23
  Spiegel yesterday that the
• 44:25
  full kind of overall
• 44:26
  picture of inside-outside
• 44:29
  will be released within the next week.
• 44:31
  Okay.
• 44:32
  Yeah.
• 44:34
  Which then will tell us how
• 44:35
  much is truly out in the
• 44:36
  heat and how much is inside the arena.
• 44:39
  Yeah.
• 44:40
  And I think as an athlete,
• 44:42
  that's something I'd really want to know.
• 44:44
  Yeah, like, you know,
• 44:47
  it's more worrying for the
• 44:48
  athletes that don't live in
• 44:50
  America where they've got, like, you know,
• 44:52
  good weather.
• 44:53
  Obviously,
• 44:54
  a lot of the Europeans do suffer, like,
• 44:57
  you know, with the heat stroke or,
• 44:59
  you know,
• 44:59
  just being able to actually
• 45:00
  perform in the heat.
• 45:01
  So it would give you a bit more confidence,
• 45:04
  you know, when you're training that,
• 45:05
  you know, like, okay,
• 45:06
  it's three events outside.
• 45:08
  All right, like...
• 45:09
  if you need to that's the
• 45:10
  three events where you kind
• 45:11
  of have to go or just be a
• 45:13
  little bit more careful you
• 45:14
  know that you can't redline
• 45:16
  and potentially ruin the
• 45:17
  rest of your weekend or
• 45:18
  something yeah yeah that
• 45:20
  makes complete sense and I
• 45:22
  think the other big news he
• 45:23
  announced over the weekend
• 45:24
  was uh possibly a workout
• 45:27
  will be announced today today today
• 45:32
  I didn't hear that.
• 45:34
  I can't remember who's there.
• 45:36
  There's so many of them now.
• 45:37
  It's harder to remember
• 45:38
  which one was which, but I think that,
• 45:41
  and the,
• 45:41
  what I heard is the last time
• 45:43
  they announced a workout on
• 45:44
  the 4th of July for here in
• 45:46
  America is it was Murph.
• 45:51
  Murph ran that wrong track
• 45:53
  on the Friday night.
• 45:55
  I can't see them doing Murph in that heat.
• 46:00
  in 2015 with Annie and Cara
• 46:03
  and all of that I can't see
• 46:06
  them doing that again yeah
• 46:08
  it would be it would be
• 46:09
  hard but like a like a
• 46:10
  swimming version of like
• 46:11
  Murph would be pretty cool
• 46:15
  that would be pretty cool
• 46:16
  that might be on the cards
• 46:18
  800 meter swim from the
• 46:18
  side of the pool 800 meter
• 46:20
  swim or 400 meter swim probably yeah
• 46:28
  That would be sweet.
• 46:30
  So that's my prediction.
• 46:33
  Yeah.
• 46:34
  I like it.
• 46:35
  I like it.
• 46:35
  I love swimming events.
• 46:37
  Um,
• 46:38
  so it was also announced that Dave has
• 46:40
  primarily done the
• 46:41
  programming for this year.
• 46:43
  Yep.
• 46:43
  I think not primarily.
• 46:45
  He has done all of the
• 46:46
  programming for individuals this year.
• 46:48
  Boz is doing the teams.
• 46:50
  Yeah.
• 46:50
  So does that give you a
• 46:52
  playbook as to what you may see or, um,
• 46:57
  I kind of like, I think Boz's style,
• 47:00
  everyone agrees,
• 47:00
  very different to Dave's.
• 47:03
  Boz likes a lot more like
• 47:05
  party tricks kind of thing
• 47:06
  is the only way I can describe it.
• 47:08
  Like he likes more like the
• 47:10
  pirouettes and the
• 47:12
  pullovers and double
• 47:13
  crossovers and kind of all that stuff.
• 47:15
  And I kind of felt like it
• 47:16
  was nearly taken away from
• 47:19
  showcasing the athletes
• 47:21
  versus like he was trying
• 47:22
  to nearly expose the athletes.
• 47:24
  Yeah.
• 47:25
  But with Dave,
• 47:26
  Dave's all about the show
• 47:28
  and Dave loves to showcase the athletes.
• 47:30
  And I think that definitely
• 47:31
  reflected the programming
• 47:33
  in the likes of the
• 47:34
  semifinals because it was a show.
• 47:38
  And even like the
• 47:38
  quarterfinals and the Open.
• 47:40
  So it makes me more excited
• 47:43
  to go back to the games
• 47:44
  knowing that Dave is programming.
• 47:47
  Yeah,
• 47:48
  I think the programming has been very
• 47:49
  good this year.
• 47:50
  That quarterfinal workout
• 47:51
  with the Clean and Jerks.
• 47:53
  That was so good.
• 47:55
  that's the one I wish we
• 47:57
  could see like that's one
• 47:58
  that like would be really
• 48:00
  fun to see side by side oh
• 48:02
  like it it was so much fun
• 48:05
  I'm like I did that by
• 48:07
  myself in the gym like I
• 48:08
  would love to be in the
• 48:09
  race doing that workout you
• 48:11
  know like ascending the bar
• 48:13
  forward every 10 reps you
• 48:14
  know like wow so so good
• 48:17
  yeah it would have been
• 48:18
  awesome live um yeah
• 48:20
  I, I, with everybody, like,
• 48:23
  I'm sure you've seen it.
• 48:24
  Like Savan did the thing
• 48:26
  with the four athletes
• 48:27
  where they did
• 48:28
  quarterfinals live every
• 48:30
  workout and they got prize
• 48:32
  money for that.
• 48:33
  $5,000 to $1,000.
• 48:34
  And yeah,
• 48:36
  you know,
• 48:36
  there's the kill Taylor and
• 48:38
  there's reps ahead now.
• 48:40
  And there's all these little
• 48:41
  shoot offs now coming where
• 48:43
  athletes can earn prize
• 48:45
  money and do like head to
• 48:46
  head competitions.
• 48:47
  Do you think that's the way
• 48:49
  the sport's going to grow going forward?
• 48:52
  Um,
• 48:53
  like it's definitely going to help the
• 48:55
  sport grow, you know,
• 48:56
  because it's getting more exposure, um,
• 48:59
  online so it's getting an
• 49:01
  online presence that people
• 49:03
  can actually watch it and
• 49:04
  say like oh what is that
• 49:05
  kill Taylor you know and
• 49:07
  they go on and they talk
• 49:08
  about it they do the
• 49:09
  workout you know like
• 49:11
  anyone can ring in that's
• 49:12
  so cool you know it's not
• 49:14
  just for the elite athletes
• 49:15
  so it's making it so that
• 49:17
  you can people can
• 49:20
  showcase their fitness maybe
• 49:21
  they don't know how good
• 49:22
  they are and they're like
• 49:23
  oh you know what I'm gonna
• 49:24
  ring into that show one day
• 49:25
  and then they get like the
• 49:27
  urge to start competing or
• 49:28
  sign up for the open or you
• 49:30
  know whatever I think I
• 49:31
  think the more the more
• 49:33
  crossfit's out there the
• 49:34
  more people's talking about
• 49:35
  the sport more people's
• 49:36
  getting involved in the
• 49:37
  sport the bigger it's gonna
• 49:38
  be yeah I think anytime where we can like
• 49:43
  package it smaller to show
• 49:45
  people that don't know what it is.
• 49:47
  Yeah.
• 49:48
  When you look at the semifinals or games,
• 49:49
  it's a long weekend and to,
• 49:51
  to get someone to invest in
• 49:53
  three or four days who have
• 49:54
  never seen it before is hard.
• 49:56
  Yeah.
• 49:57
  Or kill Taylor.
• 49:58
  It's an hour on a Saturday.
• 49:59
  Yeah.
• 50:00
  We'll check it out.
• 50:01
  Right.
• 50:02
  Or,
• 50:02
  or reps ahead was done in an hour and a
• 50:05
  half with five events.
• 50:07
  Yeah.
• 50:08
  You know, that's pretty cool.
• 50:10
  Yeah,
• 50:11
  and I think you know like that's
• 50:13
  that's more like what
• 50:14
  people want now because you
• 50:16
  know no one really has the
• 50:18
  time or the money to be
• 50:20
  away from work for three days.
• 50:23
  you know, if, if,
• 50:24
  if they're working person,
• 50:25
  which 98% of the world is, you know,
• 50:29
  so it's like to go and say, Oh,
• 50:31
  I'm going to do a competition.
• 50:32
  It's three days.
• 50:33
  You're like three days.
• 50:34
  Like I have to take a Friday
• 50:35
  off work and potentially a Monday,
• 50:37
  you know, like financially,
• 50:38
  it's not really possible for most people.
• 50:39
  So it's like, Oh,
• 50:41
  I'll go and do something else.
• 50:43
  Yeah.
• 50:44
  Let's go.
• 50:45
  We beast.
• 50:46
  Thank you.
• 50:47
  Um,
• 50:48
  and I think it's a way for people to
• 50:50
  start to know, um,
• 50:52
  not just the top 10 athletes,
• 50:54
  but the rest of the field, right?
• 50:57
  To get these opportunities
• 50:58
  to call in to kill Taylor
• 50:59
  or to do a reps ahead and
• 51:02
  do a head-to-head with a games athlete.
• 51:05
  I think that's pretty cool.
• 51:06
  And it gives them the
• 51:08
  exposure that they wouldn't
• 51:09
  get otherwise.
• 51:10
  yeah oh definitely like it's
• 51:12
  it's so so good um you know
• 51:14
  obviously watching watching
• 51:16
  savant uh obviously put on
• 51:18
  that quarterfinal I was
• 51:18
  like that was that was
• 51:19
  brilliant because I had on
• 51:21
  the big tv in the gym you
• 51:22
  know in between our
• 51:23
  workouts and stuff so um
• 51:26
  like I just think stuff
• 51:27
  like that's awesome the
• 51:28
  more we can get the sport
• 51:29
  out there the better would
• 51:31
  would you ever do that
• 51:35
  like go on to one of those
• 51:37
  yeah obviously it's just
• 51:39
  crap because obviously I'm
• 51:41
  here so the availability to
• 51:44
  go and do that you know
• 51:46
  it's going to be so much
• 51:47
  easier for like the
• 51:48
  Americans you know to
• 51:48
  travel to do that but if
• 51:50
  they ever came like Europe
• 51:52
  side like and did something
• 51:53
  like that like I would be all for it
• 51:56
  And it could even be done
• 51:57
  like Rogue did back in COVID, right?
• 52:00
  Like everybody just has a
• 52:01
  camera in their gym and
• 52:03
  there's like a split screen
• 52:04
  of four people going.
• 52:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:07
  You know?
• 52:07
  Because that worked so well.
• 52:09
  You know,
• 52:09
  like Rogue did a fantastic job of that.
• 52:12
  Yeah, I actually was a judge during Rogue.
• 52:14
  And I was with Saxon Pancheck.
• 52:17
  And the production behind that,
• 52:19
  they were so freaking good.
• 52:22
  yeah like it was it was so
• 52:24
  good to watch you know like
• 52:26
  the definitely put on a
• 52:27
  show yeah like every judge
• 52:29
  had an earpiece in with the
• 52:31
  head judge like being able
• 52:34
  to whisper in your ear
• 52:35
  saying hey watch this or
• 52:36
  watch that or it was
• 52:39
  phenomenal yeah that's so
• 52:41
  good rogue are just like
• 52:43
  another level now another
• 52:44
  level up on everyone else to be fair now
• 52:47
  Yeah, it was.
• 52:49
  The reason I asked if you'd
• 52:50
  be willing is Carolyn
• 52:51
  Prevost does a show with me
• 52:52
  on Sunday nights.
• 52:54
  She didn't think women would
• 52:57
  be as inclined to do quarterfinals.
• 52:59
  Did they like to keep their
• 53:00
  scores closer to the vest than men do?
• 53:04
  I don't really think that's the case.
• 53:07
  I would say I would talk to
• 53:10
  a lot of the girls and a
• 53:12
  lot would share scores.
• 53:14
  Probably a lot more than
• 53:16
  A lot more like probably Americans.
• 53:20
  Americans and the Canadians
• 53:21
  I speak with during quarterfinals.
• 53:24
  I would say probably the
• 53:25
  Europe may hold their cards
• 53:27
  a bit closer to their chest.
• 53:28
  But again,
• 53:29
  it's because Europe's so
• 53:30
  freaking stacked.
• 53:32
  Yeah.
• 53:32
  You know,
• 53:33
  you can't really give a point away,
• 53:34
  you know.
• 53:34
  Yeah.
• 53:36
  Yeah,
• 53:36
  I'd love to do something with
• 53:37
  quarterfinals next year.
• 53:38
  I'm just trying to figure
• 53:39
  out how to do it.
• 53:40
  Like,
• 53:41
  could we do it rogue style or could
• 53:42
  we do it, you know,
• 53:44
  not have to make people
• 53:45
  travel yet and still get to
• 53:47
  do their workouts at their home gym?
• 53:49
  Yeah, definitely.
• 53:50
  That could be really cool.
• 53:52
  Yeah.
• 53:53
  Well, to finish up,
• 53:55
  you're heading back to Texas.
• 53:57
  You are heading to the games in Texas.
• 53:59
  What is your goal this year?
• 54:01
  And is it results-based or
• 54:02
  is it just how you want to perform?
• 54:05
  Yeah, no, for me,
• 54:06
  it's literally just going
• 54:08
  and like bringing it back
• 54:10
  to like that first year,
• 54:12
  just go have fun.
• 54:14
  Soak it all up, like actually taking,
• 54:18
  walking out onto the floor again,
• 54:20
  you know,
• 54:20
  like here in the crowd and just
• 54:23
  be there and enjoy it.
• 54:25
  And I think the results will
• 54:27
  take care of themselves
• 54:28
  when I'm having fun.
• 54:29
  So I'm not, I'm not impressed on myself.
• 54:32
  I don't care.
• 54:32
  I genuinely like it sounds so bad,
• 54:35
  but in a way I don't care
• 54:37
  if I finish like first
• 54:39
  place or 40th place,
• 54:41
  I've made my goal for the
• 54:42
  year of making it back to the game.
• 54:44
  So I want to go now and just,
• 54:46
  just perform on people to be like,
• 54:49
  that's a happy McQuaid back
• 54:50
  out in that floor again.
• 54:52
  Cause last year I wasn't
• 54:53
  happy cause I was in pain.
• 54:56
  The arena's double the size of Madison.
• 55:00
  They have a cool Jumbotron
• 55:02
  that has screens inside and outside.
• 55:05
  So if you're under it,
• 55:06
  you can look up inside and
• 55:08
  see the screens.
• 55:10
  It was built in 2019, I think.
• 55:13
  Yeah, so it's fairly state-of-the-art.
• 55:17
  Yeah.
• 55:18
  Heather Lawrence told me
• 55:19
  it's basically plug-and-play.
• 55:20
  They pull up a truck, plug in a cord,
• 55:23
  and they're good to go.
• 55:24
  Amazing.
• 55:25
  Yeah.
• 55:26
  It's, it's, it's going to be awesome.
• 55:27
  Like I'm, I'm so excited.
• 55:29
  Like all the little tasers,
• 55:30
  the Friday night venue, like, Oh,
• 55:32
  it just gives you goosebumps.
• 55:33
  Do you have,
• 55:34
  do you have any ideas of what
• 55:35
  that Friday night thing is?
• 55:37
  I think what should be
• 55:39
  really cool would be like a
• 55:41
  running strongman medley so
• 55:44
  it's like you get to use
• 55:45
  like the running track but
• 55:47
  then you also get to use
• 55:48
  the football field so it's
• 55:50
  like maybe like a yoke
• 55:51
  carry one lap run a farmers
• 55:54
  carry one lap run it could
• 55:57
  be like farmers handles
• 56:00
  whatever a pig flip you
• 56:02
  know like you have to do a
• 56:02
  strongman medley but you
• 56:04
  have to be fit yeah
• 56:06
  well I like that idea my I
• 56:09
  volunteered at the games
• 56:10
  and worked out the outdoor
• 56:11
  park when strongman's fear
• 56:13
  was done with the yoke and
• 56:15
  the big viking yeah and the
• 56:19
  sled um and that was a
• 56:21
  blast to watch and if you
• 56:23
  added a run in between that
• 56:25
  because they were handstand
• 56:26
  walks between handstand
• 56:27
  walks as well so it's like
• 56:28
  take the handstand walk and
• 56:30
  make our lungs bleed
• 56:32
  Yeah, yeah.
• 56:33
  I've heard someone say a
• 56:35
  repeat of the 2010 Double Helen.
• 56:38
  Double Helen Pyramid.
• 56:43
  It was actually done on a track.
• 56:44
  It was done on a track and
• 56:46
  they put pull-up bars out.
• 56:48
  Oh, yeah.
• 56:49
  And then it was instead of kettlebells,
• 56:51
  it was like, uh,
• 56:52
  dumbbells or shouldered
• 56:53
  overhead or something like that.
• 56:56
  Yeah.
• 56:57
  It'd be cool to incorporate
• 56:58
  the run on track, you know,
• 56:59
  because it is the exact distance,
• 57:02
  you know, where obviously you're like,
• 57:03
  you know, sometimes it's like $400,
• 57:05
  actually a 350, you know, or 420,
• 57:07
  you know,
• 57:09
  so you can't cheat a run on track.
• 57:12
  Yeah.
• 57:12
  And we haven't been on a
• 57:13
  running track since 2010.
• 57:14
  Yeah.
• 57:14
  It'd be so cool.
• 57:17
  Yeah, and it's right there.
• 57:19
  Well, this has been a blast, Emma,
• 57:20
  as always.
• 57:22
  Let's not make it two years
• 57:23
  before we chat again.
• 57:24
  Yeah.
• 57:25
  But it's cool that we did it two years,
• 57:27
  almost to the day of your first time on.
• 57:30
  It's been awesome.
• 57:31
  Thank you to everybody in
• 57:32
  the chat for being here.
• 57:33
  And with that,
• 57:35
  we'll see everybody next
• 57:36
  time on Clydesdale Media Podcast.
• 57:39
  Bye, guys.
• 57:40
  Bye.