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Roger O’Sullivan: Life in Cork, Cave Diving, Edinburgh Fringe Cancellation & Bugs Bunny | Talk Box Ep. 28 · Rich Fulcher's TalkBox

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  Hot barf. Oh, sorry, I was thinking of
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  something else. It's Rich Vulture here from Rich
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  Vulture's Talk Box, my little podcast.
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  I hope you're enjoying it. Today's guest is an Irish comic,
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  Rodger O'Sullivan. He's up for an award here in
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  London, the Sean Locke Award. Great comic who passed away
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  recently. Just we talk about some
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  wonderful stuff. You're going to love it, and
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  you're probably going to love this too.
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  If you want to order some merge urine.
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  Oh, life. What I have to do?
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  Pick up eggs, bacon. I'm a bastard.
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  Oh, hi. Hey, Roger, How are you?
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  Have a scene. How did you get?
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  Here I am. I walked.
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  You walked. Yeah, I did.
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  I walked from. From Ireland.
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  No, no, no. I got the ferry from Ireland, of
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  course, and then I walked from there, walked from Fishguard.
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  You are Irish. I'm sorry.
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  Start. With the basic no, no, you go
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  on. We are humans, yes, but eh, When
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  did you come to London to live? I moved.
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  I was thinking about this today. I moved the umm, the 30.
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  Oh, cheers. Cheers.
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  That's good Cappuccino. That's very good.
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  The I moved just before the pandemic.
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  The umm, yeah. Oh, so you did you know it was
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  coming? Oh yeah, I brought it in.
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  Yeah, you fucked the bat. Yeah you can.
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  So you can get a flight straight from Cork to London, but to save
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  money I got via Wuhan. Are you from Cork?
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  I'm from Cork. Yeah, Cork is great.
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  You've been. I've been.
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  Yeah. Really.
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  Yeah. When were you there?
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  Oh, in the 90s? In the 90s that.
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  Good. That's when Cork was Cork.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's gone off the boil.
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  But no, no, I love cork. I love cork.
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  But what? What brought you there?
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  I was in an improv group. OK, look.
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  You might have even seen me. Yeah, I remember you when you
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  were in the improv group in Cork.
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  Yeah, now we did a group that was three of us and we did an
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  improvised university lecture. Oh yeah, On what?
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  What subject or just? Well, we would get a subject
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  from the audience, but it would have to be a weird scientific
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  hypothesis. OK, so it would be like the the
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  earth is shaped like a giant burrito.
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  Yeah. And we would have to prove it.
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  And then we would each be a professor that they gave us like
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  what am IA professor of, And they'd say Egyptology.
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  OK, OK. Oh, that sounds like fun.
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  It was. Fun.
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  And we did it a whole hour, yeah.
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  We we was not making ends meet. Did you guys?
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  It was actually for a while. We went all over the world.
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  We went to Cork. Yeah, yeah.
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  Do you know? But we did a whole tour.
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  We went to Galway and Cork and then we went to New Zealand and
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  we did the festivals. That I always find stuff like
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  this kind of mind blowing because when I was growing up in
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  Cork, I watched you on the Bush, OK And everything like you'd
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  watch on TV felt like it was from a different universe.
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  And you, you felt like you were in such a small roommate remote
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  place. You couldn't imagine that the
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  people on the TV had ever been. There.
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  Oh, that would get out of the that world.
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  Yeah, yeah. So.
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  So am I weirding you out right now?
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  Yeah, this is very weird for me. Oh shit, you may have even been
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  in Cork technically before I was in Cork.
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  Probably. Yeah, yeah.
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  So. So really, I'm a newcomer.
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  What are you about 19? No, yeah.
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  No, I'm I'm 30. 20 You are in the prime.
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  Prime of my life. Comedic Prime.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, I do feel it, yeah.
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  Now you so you get here right before the pandemic and you're
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  thinking I'm going to gig my ass off.
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  Yeah, I I genuinely thought I'm going to move here and my life
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  is going to change. And then they, they banned
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  comedy. I was too good.
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  They banned. Just because of you, Yeah.
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  They knew I would have disrupted the whole scene.
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  So. When did that so do?
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  Did clubs just start closing down or was it just a massive
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  everything shut down? It was so I've moved.
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  I moved like a month before, like lockdowns and stuff.
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  Yeah, and I'd all I'd like almost a year worth of gigs
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  booked in shit. And then I'd start getting like,
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  e-mail after e-mail because going like, oh, we're not.
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  Oh, yeah. When this isn't happening
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  anymore. And at first you're in such
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  denial. You're just like, well, I'm sure
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  these guys are just babies, you know?
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  And then eventually, yeah, all the.
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  Gigs. That's what I was thinking.
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  I was in LA when it started and then people would go, oh, we're
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  not meeting together anymore. And I go, oh, come on.
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  Yeah. Can't you just get in the car
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  and meet? Yeah.
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  Shake hands. Yes.
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  Swamp. Swamp spit.
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  Yeah. Oh, we're not swamping spit
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  anymore. OK, guys.
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  All right, whatever. So then nothing, and then you're
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  stuck in your flat or whatever. Yeah, I was like trapped in a in
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  a flat and late in in East London.
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  With a girlfriend or by yourself?
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  With a friend I moved over with. Oh, a comedy friend.
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  Comedy friend? Yeah, and it's just all of my
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  friends back home during the pandemic basically became like
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  Internet famous. And because in your head you're
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  like, well, they moved to London really in.
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  Cork. Yeah, no, yeah, Cork and Dublin
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  and stuff because they all they because they were at home.
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  You you could always find places to like, you know, do videos.
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  Or whatever. Yeah, but because.
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  We know some of them the. Probably Shane.
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  Daniel Byrne. I remember him taking off the
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  you big chained down. Your no, no, But I'll tell you
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  what I'm thinking in my head is I missed that whole boat.
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  Yeah. Because what happened was when
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  it hit, we were all sort of like, now what do we do?
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  Because we were homeschooling our kids there because through
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  Zoom. And then we realised we're going
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  to have to do it a whole other year because the schools weren't
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  going to open. Yeah.
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  So we were like, we're going to move, OK.
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  And so that's when we were planning to move.
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  So all of that energy that I should have probably put into
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  doing that. That that.
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  Into moving. I I had the same thing except I
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  just put the energy into playing video games online.
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  See. That's fine too.
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  I, I don't know what I saw. My friends like making really
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  funny stuff online and a little bit of my head just went, well,
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  it's never going to come back so I'll just play video games.
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  So are you not the type to do that sort of thing?
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  Or is it just that, oh, I didn't know that that's what people
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  were doing? No, I, I, I I'm just bad at it.
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  I want to do it. Oh come on.
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  Just. Bad at it.
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  You know the. What is it that you're bad at?
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  I'm bad at the. I'm bad at just being able to
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  like. Technical.
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  Technical and being able to be relatable in any way.
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  I am too, yeah. But I'll tell you what it
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  requires. It requires you filming a lot of
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  drivel. Yeah.
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  And then finding the wheat from the chaff, Yes.
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  And then it's like, this is what I'm going to keep doing.
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  This is the one. Yeah, that's definitely.
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  I think something that it took me ages to learn is I don't know
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  what it is in my brain, but, you know, if I did something that
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  people did find funny, I'd go like, well, I'm going to have to
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  change it up. You know, I can't just give them
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  the same crap every time. I know.
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  No, you have to give them the same crap every time.
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  That's the problem is I think perfectionists wind up not doing
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  as well because they're always thinking like you're trying to
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  jump ahead of the audience. The audience just wants more of
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  the same. Oh, they don't care.
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  Yeah, the audience is the nicest person.
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  They're the nicest critic you could have.
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  Yes. They're like, yeah, yeah, it's
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  fine. Fall down again.
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  Yeah, do do the dance again. Do it.
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  Yeah, the and I'm, I'm not even a perfectionist, but I was like,
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  do the stuff I was doing. I was like, I'd put any any shit
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  out. And this is this can't go.
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  That's what people keep saying, they go content, just get the
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  content out. Don't think so much about it.
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  But I think too much. It's like, well, what if I
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  release the balloon and it goes too fast?
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  Let's do that again. And then it's just like, then
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  the whole day's shot. Oh.
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  I've I've had people who are afraid about putting stuff out
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  because they're worried they'll become too successful too
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  quickly. I I'd put it out, I'd put the
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  stuff. So are you doing stuff now?
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  Are you doing like Instagram? And all that.
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  Yeah, I put up some stand up clips and I've started doing
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  stuff that's like looks it's model after like 90s point and
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  click adventures, remember? Those.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah, so I've started telling a
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  story through these point and click adventures.
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  The Is this the Burp cast? No, no, I just when I drank the
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  coffee, it just went through me. I'm it's not a reflection on
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  you. No, no, sorry.
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  The beforehand I heard Rich say to Kenny, if if the interview is
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  going badly, I'll burp. That's like you.
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  That's like you'll know. And then we play music.
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  Yeah, yeah. So you do the point and click
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  thing. Yeah, that's great.
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  Yeah, I really like it and people really like it.
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  And do you have somebody film your stand up or do you just put
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  a camera up? I.
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  Just put the camera up you. Know I got to do that you.
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  Got to do that, Rich. You got to put the camera up.
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  And The thing is, when you put the camera up, people are like,
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  back in the day, people would be snippy, you know?
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  I know now it's just a thing. Yeah, now, now if you're not
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  filming yourself, they go, oh, this guy thinks he's great.
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  This guy thinks that it's OK to just live in the moment, OK?
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  It used to be. Weird to just like fall off a
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  Cliff, but now when somebody does a selfie and falls off,
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  it's like, OK, I get it. That's the best, yeah.
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  Yeah. It's like, well, what's the
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  point of falling off? Somebody's not filming it, you
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  know? Have you read about some of
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  those? Oh, the Oh yeah, yeah, people
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  all. The time are doing it the.
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  I love watching compilations of on YouTube of like stories of
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  influencers or cave divers that are like oh I've oh they they
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  died trying to go in the tightest cave.
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  Ever. I could never do that.
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  No. I don't want to encourage it.
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  I I think cave diving it seems to be the stupidest endeavour
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  that humans have ever. Oh my God.
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  Not only are you in a tight space, yeah, you're hundreds of
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  feet underground and you're under vosser.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not good.
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  The there's a famous one where this guy died in this cave
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  called Naughty Potty Cave. Uh, if I can't.
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  Get beyond the name. Exactly.
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  If I was going to go cave diving, I'd wanted to be named
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  something intimidating. You know, because imagine you're
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  leaving kids that they have to go.
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  Oh, how'd your dad die? Naughty potty cave.
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  No, no. Naughty potty cave I could see,
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  but naughty potty? Yeah, It's just too silly.
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  So do you swim? No, that wasn't the right Segway
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  question. But you're in.
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  You're in your flat for the pandemic, and then the
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  pandemic's over. Yeah.
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  Wait, was there a date when it was over or was it sort of
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  gradual? It was gradual.
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  Yeah, yeah. It was like, oh, you know, you
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  can now. Now 10 people can meet.
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  Were you working on stand up during the no?
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  No, I. Just watching stand.
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  I was watching stand up. Yeah, the but I think.
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  What do you like to watch? Oh, Mitch Hedberg, one of my.
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  Favourites Oh I love Mitch Hedberg the.
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  Mitch Hedberg is like a genius. He is the, I think one of the
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  best one liner comics. Yeah.
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  I mean, Steven Wright is right up there.
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  But Mitch Hedberg, I mean, if the thing about him is if you
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  read all his jokes. Oh, they don't.
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  They don't. Work.
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  They don't work. Yeah, yeah.
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  It's the way he delivers though. Exactly.
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  Yeah, I've, I've like, I, I, I remember a friend getting me
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  into him in, in secondary school and my friend would come in and
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  like, tell me jokes and I'd be like, this guy sounds like the
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  least funny guy ever. And then when we got broadband
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  and I could check up like the YouTube videos of him, I was
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  like, this guy is unreal. This is so.
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  Funny. That's my whole life as a kid.
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  I'm trying to tell people who's funny and I can't convey it the
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  same way. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's very good.
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  You should watch it. It's very good.
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  That's what my mom says. My my mom My mom's favourite
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  show is like Caribbean enthusiasm, but she watches it.
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  And I was on that I. Really.
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  Yeah. Which I'm I.
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  Disturbance in the kitchen. OK, OK, my I will tell my mom.
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  This Remember when he had a fatwa against him and he was.
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  In Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Was in that one.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  That's amazing. The that's crazy.
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  Yeah. My mom will like my mom will be
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  blown away by that. Really.
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  Yeah, because my mom, can we call his mom?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Can you get, can you get Patricia on the line, please?
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  My mom talks about curb enthusiasm.
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  She, like, watches it. And then she'll tell you on the
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  phone, retelling the episode as if.
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  It's not as funny. No, no, it's not you.
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  This is interesting because in it came out in 1999.
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  I think I had a copy from my agent because I think he
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  represented Jeff Garlin. I had Avhs copy and I was with
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  the Bouche down in Melbourne for the Comedy Festival and we're
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  all at this house and we're all, you know, you know, partying and
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  stuff. And I go, let's watch this VHS.
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  This show is really funny. It hasn't come out yet.
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  And then I put it in the VCR, and they're just looking at it
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  like, because the context was like, we're all having fun and
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  then they're having to focus on us.
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  And it wasn't till, like 10 years later, like Julian goes to
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  me, says, you know, that was really funny, that show.
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  And we watched it. Yeah.
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  The you know, in I did a similar experience to that, but in
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  secondary school where we had a religion teacher who never
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  wanted to teach anything. So she would come into class
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  sometimes and she would go does that.
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  She'd genuinely just say does anyone have a DVD on them?
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  Of anything. Of anything.
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  And then and I hit the DVD. Chitty Chitty gangbang.
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  Yeah, that would have gotten a better reaction than what I
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  actually played because I had a DVD of the Mighty Boosh.
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  You did. Yeah.
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  And me and all my friends were like, you are, miss, you have to
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  play. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So she puts it in and she's watching it for about 10 minutes
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  and then eventually she just turns to the class and goes
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  like, who wants to keep watching this?
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  Hands up, And it's obviously just me and my friends.
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  And she goes. And who wants to?
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  See their religion? That's a.
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  The rest of the class Jesus, miss, please, please.
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  And then she's secretly going thank you, Mighty Boosh.
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  Yeah, Yeah. So which episode was?
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  It it would have been like it would have been an episode from
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  season 1. I think it probably would have
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  been like episode 1 season 1. She would have just popped that.
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  On Oh, that is a sure test of someone's comedic sensibilities
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  there, isn't it? Yeah.
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  She she didn't pass. No, she's a nice woman, but
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  just. Would you like to call her out
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  and say she's a a bitch? I won't call, I'm just kidding.
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  I won't call it. She she one of very endearing
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  quality she had is that she like couldn't tell that teenagers
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  were taking the piss. She just assumed teenagers had
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  like these innocent minds. Yeah.
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  So a friend of mine, Cormac once just spray painted a giant penis
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  in the school car park and she came walking by and she was
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  like, oh, what are you doing boys?
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  And my friend Cormac was like, Miss what?
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  What is this? And she goes, Boys, turn away.
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  Do not look right, right? You will not believe what this
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  says. Yeah, yeah.
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  She seems nice though. Yeah, she was a nice woman,
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  Yeah. Yeah, this.
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  Valvi was her name. Nice woman.
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  I mean, I've learned. I see it in my boys too, because
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  I see them telling kids about things that I know is not going
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  to work. Yeah.
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  And then but I just sort of let them go through it because it's
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  a process. It's a learning thing about
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  telling people about comedy. I think I've found doing
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  podcasts similar experience for me sometimes.
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  What do you mean? Sometimes I'll come in and I'll
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  be like, yeah, I'm going to nail this podcast and then.
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  Oh yeah. I don't know the podcasts.
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  Well, what about like some podcasts?
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  They'll have like these questions for you and then they
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  don't really hear your answers. They just want to get to the
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  next. One, they just go on.
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  Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Yeah. I think the Richard Herring, of
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  course, is the prime. Did you do?
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  Richard Herring. No, no, no.
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  I'd love to do Richard Herring, but Richard Herrings.
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  Well, you're not going to do them anymore.
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  Oh, yeah. Well, I'm calling him out.
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  I'm calling him out. But I know I, I, I think Richard
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  Herring has you use those emergency questions.
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  Yeah. I'll sometimes I think like
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  he'll ask the emergency question.
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  I'm just like, like, I know that this this person just isn't
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  going to have a a good answer to it.
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  Well, I always hate that because like, I used to go on these
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  interview shows that would be like lists.
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  What are your top films? What are your top songs?
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  And it's like, how do these people, how do people answer
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  these questions? They've got to have the list
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  ready. Yeah, I don't like whenever
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  somebody goes, oh, what are you listening to now?
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  And it's like with the same music I've listened to since I
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  was 15, Like I've never listened to anything new.
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  I've never. I haven't watched a movie in 20
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  years. It's like when somebody comes
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  into town and they go, could you recommend a good place in town
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  and you go, all of a sudden your brain freezes and you go, I
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  think there's a Costa Coffee somewhere.
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  Yeah, yeah, I always get that when a friend's coming to visit
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  and they're like, oh, could you recommend a hotel?
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  Like what? What do you.
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  I live here. I've never.
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  Said no. Yeah.
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  Ask somebody else. Yeah, ask.
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  Ask the Internet. Stop asking us questions.
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  This is the problem of living in a place that people want to come
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  to. Yeah, people are going to come
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  to visit you or either wanting to stay with you or get
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  recommendations of places. What's the inside scoop?
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  Yeah, Big Ben, have you, Big Ben?
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  Go check that out. I'm just trying to figure out
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  how to get up. Yeah, yeah, you know, Yeah.
• 20:15
  I don't need all this outside stuff.
• 20:18
  Yeah, I think if you live in London, you have never done
• 20:20
  anything in London. No, never, never.
• 20:23
  You've gone to. Assume.
• 20:25
  That yeah, I think the closest it comes to having insider
• 20:29
  knowledge is sometimes you'll go, oh, this Tesco has a
• 20:31
  particularly good meal leal section.
• 20:33
  The they have the samosas. Not everyone has the vegetarian
• 20:35
  exactly, I'll tell you that. Also, I view it as when somebody
• 20:40
  comes into town and say they know somebody in London, I want
• 20:44
  to meet those people because I never meet anybody in London,
• 20:47
  you know, like, Take Me Out. The How long have you been?
• 20:54
  Oh so I got here 2020 OK so but I had been here earlier in the
• 21:01
  90s naughties and then I I lived here till 2013 and then went to
• 21:09
  LA so nice. OK, the.
• 21:12
  We'll put a graph and stuff. We'll just on the bottom.
• 21:15
  Yeah, and yours as well. OK, my timeline is mostly Cork
• 21:18
  and then London, so it'll be easy to do that one.
• 21:21
  So, but the scene now, yeah, has just it's just burgeoning into a
• 21:26
  big comedy. Like how many times would you
• 21:29
  say you gig? Oh I I honestly I don't get that
• 21:33
  much but you could gig loads. I gig like maybe 2-3 times a
• 21:37
  week. But that's good.
• 21:38
  Yeah, but you. But I know people who are just
• 21:40
  like, so sometimes they'll put up on Instagram.
• 21:42
  I've gigged five times tonight. Are they bragging?
• 21:45
  They I I think maybe. What's the most anybody's gigged
• 21:49
  in a night? I'd say it would be hard to do
• 21:53
  more than. I always see your 5 as the.
• 21:57
  Yeah, I think, I think 5 is probably the most.
• 22:00
  I think you could do 6, but 5 is the most you could do without
• 22:03
  like needing to meticulously organise everything.
• 22:06
  Yeah, yeah. Without proving a point.
• 22:09
  But three, three times a week is good.
• 22:12
  Go over what you did and then you what?
• 22:15
  I don't know. I you know, my biggest problem,
• 22:19
  and I found this during the pandemic, is I don't write
• 22:21
  anything down. So what do you mean?
• 22:23
  Like I've never, I never like write down like jokes or
• 22:27
  anything. What about when you're talking
• 22:29
  to somebody? You go excuse me one minute.
• 22:31
  Excuse. Me I have to write this.
• 22:33
  Down they go. What a friend.
• 22:34
  Yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ.
• 22:38
  What? He's taken what I said.
• 22:40
  Yeah. Oh, that's very good there.
• 22:42
  What? If I want to be a stand up.
• 22:44
  Yeah, yeah, maybe I need that. Yeah.
• 22:48
  Well, yeah. So I find that every time I'm
• 22:51
  gigging, I'm like, I'm going to do something productive.
• 22:54
  But then I get up there and my brain just goes.
• 22:57
  Or do you have a lot of notes and you go, what was I trying to
• 23:02
  say? There's a lot of like a single
• 23:05
  note in your WhatsApp that says 0.
• 23:08
  Dentists. Yeah.
• 23:09
  What about dentists? How?
• 23:11
  Was it? Yeah.
• 23:12
  Fuck. And then it just it goes.
• 23:15
  It's gone. Yeah.
• 23:16
  You know, people I hate these people who go, oh, it can't have
• 23:18
  been that good. I've nothing else.
• 23:21
  Give me It doesn't matter if it wasn't that good.
• 23:24
  I need. It, I know I need it.
• 23:26
  I did think of a lot of stuff when I was driving because in LA
• 23:29
  you drive a lot. So I would turn on the the phone
• 23:35
  and I'd just start driving and then I'd come up with stuff.
• 23:38
  But then it would be like, oh, it's like 1/2 hour long voice
• 23:42
  tape. I'm not going to listen to that
• 23:44
  again of me just singing and bullshit.
• 23:47
  You should release that. Yeah, that would be good.
• 23:50
  Yeah, you should release those on like the paper.
• 23:52
  Yeah, Oh, life, anyway. That's again another good.
• 24:01
  So you're up for an award? Yeah, first of all, you went to
• 24:06
  Edinburgh and you got nominated. Yeah, for best newcomer.
• 24:12
  Now tell me what you told me before you were almost not going
• 24:19
  to go. Yeah, that's yeah, I was almost
• 24:21
  not going to go because the vineyard is meant to be on and
• 24:25
  like Pull pulled out. They're just like, oh, we're not
• 24:27
  doing shows. No.
• 24:28
  Don't they regret that? Exactly.
• 24:30
  Yeah. You know, they could have.
• 24:31
  They could have had me. So you thought I'm going to pull
• 24:34
  out? Yeah, and Allison Spittle.
• 24:38
  Who's been on this podcast? Yeah.
• 24:40
  Yeah, brilliant guest as well, she said.
• 24:42
  I really think you've put in a lot of effort into the show.
• 24:45
  You should just you should find somewhere.
• 24:48
  Don't give up. So I like just message to
• 24:51
  everyone and then hoots. The place that I eventually went
• 24:54
  with, they were like, oh, they have they, they had a spare room
• 25:00
  and I was like, it's, it's not the exact time I wanted or
• 25:04
  whatever. But what time did you want?
• 25:06
  Ideally 9 I. Felt like I thought like 5 or 6
• 25:10
  might be good. Because nobody's really drunk.
• 25:13
  Yeah, yeah, Mike, you're. About to eat?
• 25:16
  Yeah, my comedy is not a like a drunk comedy, you know, the so,
• 25:20
  yeah, I think my comedy, my comedy doesn't work in a
• 25:24
  traditional comedy club. That's how you know it's good,
• 25:27
  you know? Your ideal like say everybody
• 25:32
  knows who you are and everything.
• 25:34
  Where would be your ideal kind of venues?
• 25:38
  My ideal we kind of, I used to be in bands growing up, so I
• 25:42
  always feel comfortable in those like, you know.
• 25:45
  Open band venues for music. I just used to be in a band.
• 25:50
  So. So that's where, yeah, that's
• 25:53
  when. I before I do the next song, a
• 25:55
  couple of jokes. Yeah, yeah, the we, we used to
• 25:58
  thinking back about it, like the reason I started stand up is
• 26:01
  because I Can't Sing. But bands when eventually if
• 26:06
  you're not, like if a band is shit, you just have to stop
• 26:10
  being in the band, right? We all stop being in bands and
• 26:13
  it's so hard to get everyone together.
• 26:15
  I was like, oh, stand up. I only I need to be there.
• 26:17
  See, that is so true because I used to do lots of sketch and
• 26:22
  improv, and it was all about scheduling when to meet.
• 26:27
  Yeah. Whose house are you going to
• 26:29
  meet at? No, my roommate's doing his
• 26:31
  tantric sex thing. Yeah.
• 26:33
  You know, like you always had to do.
• 26:35
  Yeah, the thing I can't get over is in for scheduling is have you
• 26:40
  ever met any polyamorous people? Uh, I have, but mostly read
• 26:45
  about them. I I have a friend who's in a
• 26:48
  polyamorous relationship and I just can't get over it.
• 26:51
  The amount of scheduling. That they have to do.
• 26:54
  Oh yeah, like they're because sometimes I'm trying to like
• 26:57
  some me and my girlfriend live together and sometimes you
• 26:59
  can't. Figure out a time.
• 27:01
  Oh yeah, yeah. One of them in a polyamorous
• 27:05
  relationship has to be a booking agent.
• 27:07
  Yeah. Or something like that.
• 27:08
  It's essentially a startup at a certain point where.
• 27:11
  It is. Somebody's just like, OK, OK,
• 27:13
  we've got you on a Tuesday. You've got.
• 27:16
  You need an app. Yeah, yeah, This is, this is
• 27:19
  what the, this is what talk box need to, this is what you need
• 27:24
  to do. I do a joke about this in my
• 27:27
  stand up because my wife and I have to compete to get stuff in
• 27:31
  the calendar. Really.
• 27:33
  Well, yeah, because you share the calendar, but it's like, OK,
• 27:37
  it's good to know that she's doing something on a Tuesday,
• 27:40
  but she got there first. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:42
  And now I can't do that Tuesday thing.
• 27:45
  I, I do, I get that sometimes with my, with my girlfriend as
• 27:48
  well, actually where yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm going out with
• 27:51
  friends and it's. Like, no, you're not.
• 27:53
  Yeah. Yeah, Excuse me, I.
• 27:55
  I got a tantric sex. Well, I'm sorry again, knitting
• 27:59
  knitting. You're you're very into tantric.
• 28:03
  Sex I really. Yeah, is that?
• 28:06
  I don't know why Tantric sex. So you got nominated?
• 28:13
  Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, it was like it was kind
• 28:18
  of. Did you think Alison Spittle?
• 28:21
  I did. I did, yeah.
• 28:22
  They don't give you any opportunity to thank people.
• 28:24
  You're nominated, you know, they should, they should, they should
• 28:27
  bring you up and go, OK everyone, if you want.
• 28:30
  They do this thing which I think is a bit, umm, I understand why
• 28:34
  they do it, but everyone has to take a picture with the award
• 28:37
  and then they're like whoever wins, that's the photo we'll put
• 28:40
  out. That's like making the T-shirt
• 28:42
  that you're the champion, yeah. And then, yeah.
• 28:45
  So that was a bit. Oh that sucks.
• 28:47
  Where was the award ceremony? It was in oh, I can't remember
• 28:51
  the name of the place, but it's like some posh room in
• 28:54
  Edinburgh. But do they tell you if you've
• 28:56
  won? Because what if you decide not
• 28:59
  to show up? They I don't think they didn't
• 29:03
  well, I didn't win so I don't know, but the but there is they
• 29:07
  definitely. Did you have a speech prepared?
• 29:10
  No, I was pretty sure I wouldn't win because what?
• 29:14
  Because my show was on 10 minutes after the start of the
• 29:18
  ceremony, so I had to like run immediately.
• 29:21
  From the. Ceremony and I just said to them
• 29:24
  like I'm going to have to go pretty quickly and they didn't
• 29:26
  seem too. Worried about?
• 29:27
  That the IT was. I want it.
• 29:29
  I want. It Oh, yes, yes, yes.
• 29:32
  See who's who's show to be fair, so their show is about a journey
• 29:37
  through the grief of losing their father.
• 29:41
  My show is about journeying through the grief of having my
• 29:46
  father, right, so right. So I can understand if you're
• 29:49
  weighing up the two shows and one person's parent has died and
• 29:52
  the other hasn't, you're going to give it to the person.
• 29:54
  It's just being nominated that, yeah.
• 29:57
  Yeah, I didn't think I'd be nominated at all.
• 29:59
  So like I was over the moon. That's amazing.
• 30:02
  And now you're up for another award.
• 30:06
  Yeah, I'm up for the. The Oscar, is that it?
• 30:10
  Yeah, I'm up for the Oscar. The.
• 30:14
  I'm not always up on things. I'm the awards.
• 30:17
  No, I'm, I'm in, I'm in whatever new movie there is.
• 30:20
  I'm in Dune 3. I'm in Dune 3.
• 30:23
  Really. With Chalamet.
• 30:24
  Yeah, the Chalamet. I'll tell you, he's a character.
• 30:27
  I'm telling you. Oh, he.
• 30:29
  I know. Yeah.
• 30:30
  Yeah. He's a lovely guy.
• 30:31
  You're a close person. Yes.
• 30:32
  Yeah, of course. Yeah.
• 30:36
  Have you met? Have you met him?
• 30:38
  Like outside, I was in Wonka. I know you were in Wonka.
• 30:42
  You never. Started being together.
• 30:44
  I don't. I know.
• 30:45
  I know, but I mean, have you met him outside of that like.
• 30:49
  At the premiere. Yeah.
• 30:52
  And was he, did he make a beeline for you?
• 30:54
  Did he go? Red.
• 30:55
  Oh, yeah, of course he did. Yeah, he did, yeah.
• 30:58
  Yeah, and he pulled you and gave you a big hug.
• 31:00
  No, but, but going back to this award, you're up for a comedy
• 31:05
  award. I am, yeah.
• 31:06
  What is it? It's.
• 31:07
  The Sean Locke Awards. I loved Sean Locke.
• 31:11
  Yeah. Yeah, Sean Locke is another
• 31:13
  person who like was just, I couldn't believe that he'd ever,
• 31:19
  like, gigged in Cork. Do you know what I mean?
• 31:21
  Is like when you're from like a relatively small place.
• 31:24
  People that's on the tour though, yeah, if you do Ireland,
• 31:28
  it's Cork. That's one of the biggies.
• 31:30
  He that well. Yeah, Dublin, Cork, Galway,
• 31:34
  Kilkenny. Where else?
• 31:37
  The Belfast. Oh yeah, Belfast.
• 31:40
  The yeah, that's like, yeah, they they are.
• 31:42
  The boom boom, boom boom. They're the they're the places
• 31:44
  hit. But.
• 31:45
  Cork is one of them. Yeah, but but still there's this
• 31:49
  because I think, yeah, just because I'm from like rural
• 31:52
  Cork, I'm from the middle of. Nowhere so.
• 31:55
  You just have this like, even if the person came, it's like, oh,
• 31:58
  they came to the city, you know, they didn't come to, they didn't
• 32:01
  come to my, my little. Who did you see when you were
• 32:04
  growing up that had an influence on you in Cork?
• 32:07
  In Cork, the I I remember my mom took me to see an Irish comedian
• 32:14
  called Brendan Grace. Uh huh.
• 32:16
  He's very old school comedian, but the.
• 32:20
  This Irishman walked into a bar. Kind of that type of stuff,
• 32:24
  yeah. But the one thing that did,
• 32:27
  like, I wouldn't say it's an influence, but just the fact of
• 32:30
  like we went to see him and afterwards he was signing all of
• 32:35
  these like things and my mom's like, you should go up and get a
• 32:38
  signature from from him. Go, go.
• 32:41
  Go and and just like seeing that he was a real person, you're
• 32:45
  like, oh, that's kind of that's he, you know.
• 32:49
  He's a human. Yeah, and he and he has to kick
• 32:51
  gig in like shitty theatres around around Ireland.
• 32:56
  So you're like, oh, I guess it's just.
• 32:57
  Why was it a shitty theatre? It's no, it wasn't it, but it
• 33:00
  was like a local theatre. It wasn't like a, it wasn't like
• 33:04
  a prestigious one or anything. But yeah, I'm trying to think of
• 33:06
  what other comics. He's just like me.
• 33:08
  He was in the toilet. Yeah, he's a normal guy.
• 33:11
  He's a regular guy. He seems drunk, but he's like.
• 33:14
  Sometimes, sometimes it does take that you have to be like
• 33:18
  have an interaction with the person to sort of realise, oh,
• 33:22
  all of this because for some reason, I don't know why if
• 33:27
  somebody's on that box. Yeah.
• 33:29
  You have this weird perception of that person.
• 33:33
  That you you think they're a millionaire.
• 33:35
  Like you think that they live in Hollywood and you think that
• 33:38
  they're a celebrity. They meet Total Star.
• 33:40
  Yeah, and you're like, oh, you've tax problems.
• 33:43
  Oh you do Skip diving as. Well, yeah, yeah, the, you know,
• 33:50
  actually I did see. You wear used underpants.
• 33:53
  You flip them inside out, we'll get double use out of them.
• 33:56
  The. You do tantric sex?
• 33:59
  Yeah. Wait, that doesn't have to do
• 34:02
  with status. Oh yeah, anyone?
• 34:04
  Can do tantric anyone? It's very democratic.
• 34:07
  There's a lot of homeless tantric.
• 34:09
  Yeah, they I saw Dara Breen growing up as well.
• 34:16
  He. Having sex.
• 34:17
  No, no, no. If we're watching him, it's like
• 34:20
  he's like sex with the audience. He, I remember first seeing him
• 34:24
  up in Edinburgh in the 90s and I'm sure he was just sort of,
• 34:29
  no, he was already established a little bit, yeah, but he was
• 34:34
  kind of branching into the UK more and wow.
• 34:41
  Yeah, I, yeah, I, I remember waiting after his show, waiting
• 34:46
  by like the back, you know, the back entrance to like meet him.
• 34:50
  I was successful. Get lost.
• 34:52
  Yeah, I was obsessed with them. And I was like, I want to meet
• 34:56
  him. And he was so lovely.
• 34:59
  He was like, you know, and I was like, I want to.
• 35:01
  He's a nice guy. Yeah.
• 35:02
  And he said, oh, if you just keep working at it, you know,
• 35:05
  I'm sure you can. I'm sure you like, you know.
• 35:07
  He didn't mean. That no, no he.
• 35:09
  Didn't he? Didn't mean it.
• 35:10
  Oh, just work on it. He didn't mean it, but he was
• 35:13
  nice to be lied to, you know? He he's really into science.
• 35:19
  Yeah, yeah, he would have loved your improvised.
• 35:22
  Lecture, I think he just missed that because I would just
• 35:25
  started with the Bush because I started the Bush after this
• 35:30
  group broke up. Yeah.
• 35:32
  Because I needed something to do.
• 35:35
  They when you started the Bush, what was that like?
• 35:37
  Like what was like the, because now I the scene in London, when
• 35:41
  I, when I came to London, I thought the scene would like be
• 35:44
  so much crazier and there'd be so much experimentation and
• 35:47
  stuff. But when you came here, yeah, I
• 35:49
  think there was a lot more experimentation back back in our
• 35:53
  day. Yeah.
• 35:56
  I think it comes in cycles. You know, there's going to be
• 36:00
  another cycle where there's crazy.
• 36:03
  Like Sketch was very. I remember when we first went to
• 36:09
  Edinburgh, there was an article about how surreal comedy is now
• 36:14
  The thing, and there were about like three groups that were
• 36:18
  doing surreal shows. So they made this, you know,
• 36:21
  statement and stuff. But there was a lot of cool
• 36:25
  stuff going on then. Yeah, it seems like it seems
• 36:28
  like that was the most exciting time.
• 36:30
  But then wait another year or so and then it just closes up and
• 36:34
  then something, you know. Yeah, I think that was the
• 36:38
  biggest disappointment I had when I properly started getting.
• 36:40
  Here I'm. Sorry, no, that's OK.
• 36:42
  I don't blame you for it, Rich. But the I just thought like,
• 36:45
  yeah, because all my favourite comedians were like, yeah, the
• 36:48
  the Bush or, you know, Victoria and Bob and stuff.
• 36:50
  So I was, yeah, I thought, oh, this seems to be so crazy over
• 36:53
  there. And you get over there and it's
• 36:54
  like, oh, this guy's really alternative.
• 36:56
  And it's just because he says my partner instead of my wife.
• 37:01
  Yeah, yeah, I know. I don't know what to do about
• 37:06
  that. I get.
• 37:08
  But I think sometimes though, doing the self thing, if you're
• 37:13
  really true to that, there's some really crazy stuff going on
• 37:17
  there, yeah. Yeah, I actually, I think, you
• 37:20
  know, to be positive about social media for a second, the
• 37:25
  because it is shit generally, but the I think it does mean
• 37:28
  that somebody who's very it does mean that somebody who's like
• 37:31
  very out there, if they can get an audience just on social
• 37:35
  media, they can skip all of the. Bullshit.
• 37:38
  Yeah, that's going to like they're going to be, if you go
• 37:40
  through the normal channels, you're going to meet loads of
• 37:43
  people that say you should just make this a little like normal.
• 37:45
  More. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:46
  You'll get people that don't have to make things more.
• 37:48
  Normal. Well, because then you could
• 37:50
  say, look, I've done it this way and I have this audience, so F
• 37:55
  you. Yeah, I'm doing it this way,
• 37:57
  yeah. Whereas the thing about going
• 38:01
  through that process with TV is you sell them on you and they
• 38:05
  go, we want to mould you this way.
• 38:08
  Yeah. So yeah, it's all about
• 38:11
  moulding. Mould.
• 38:12
  Were you moulded rich? I I hope I wasn't.
• 38:15
  No, I was circumcised though. Did somebody take you aside in
• 38:20
  the 2000? They say listen kids, if you
• 38:22
  stick to this track, you'll be in Wonka.
• 38:25
  Yeah, someday you'll be. Someday you'll be snacking with
• 38:30
  shallow man. Yeah.
• 38:34
  OK, so this award hasn't been given yet.
• 38:37
  No, but you're pretty much the winner.
• 38:39
  No, definitely not. But by the time this comes out,
• 38:41
  the award will be over. And if and when is it?
• 38:45
  Thursday. This Thursday.
• 38:46
  Are you going to a banquet? Yeah, going to a banquet in
• 38:49
  Bradford. Oh yeah, and how many people
• 38:56
  were nominated? I think 10 were nominated.
• 38:59
  So anyone we might know? You might know, Do you know
• 39:02
  Samira Banks? Yes.
• 39:04
  Yes, Amira Banks is nominated. Brilliant comic the.
• 39:08
  And is it, what is this for? It's just someone who's up and
• 39:11
  coming. Or is it established?
• 39:13
  It's like it's like kind of yeah, up and coming, maybe like
• 39:18
  not quite established. Yet.
• 39:19
  And he's sort of someone who meets it, kind of his
• 39:22
  sensibilities and stuff. Or.
• 39:24
  Yeah, that's what they say. That's great because I really
• 39:27
  looked up to him. We did.
• 39:30
  When I was doing that improv group, Like I said, we were in
• 39:33
  Australia and Sean Locke was there and we got to hang out
• 39:40
  with him and every time he was up, all of the comics, you know,
• 39:46
  the back of the room comics, he was the ultimate back of the
• 39:50
  room comics. We all watched him.
• 39:53
  I think he was just great. I think Sean Locke is not a
• 39:58
  gosh, but I think he's one of the few people who when you
• 40:01
  watch the stand up, it was like comics comic.
• 40:07
  Yes, you know, that was the beauty of them, that this is the
• 40:11
  problem I always see too, because I get kind of weird and
• 40:15
  then I go, I'm not going to be able to do a normal gig, so I've
• 40:19
  got a, but then I go the other way.
• 40:21
  It's like cats and dogs. Yeah.
• 40:24
  Yeah, so, but he had that wonderful way of doing both.
• 40:29
  Yeah, I think that it's because people knew it was authentic.
• 40:33
  Where, you know, you ever see like, a weirdo try to be normal?
• 40:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like normal people are
• 40:38
  just like. No way.
• 40:39
  Like I can just tell, but if if a weirdo is this a complete
• 40:43
  weirdo, sometimes normal people will go, Oh, well, yeah, that's
• 40:47
  you have to have one weirdo. That reminds me of someone who
• 40:50
  said I asked someone how to act drunk and they said try not to
• 40:56
  be drunk. Oh, that's the way to to do it.
• 41:00
  Yeah, I think that that I think that sounds good.
• 41:02
  Yeah. So I could see that with the
• 41:04
  stand up. You know when, when the Bush
• 41:08
  were taking off and stuff and when you said that sorry, sorry,
• 41:11
  sorry. No, that's OK.
• 41:12
  When you were saying that there was that moment of surrealism
• 41:15
  where people were like talking, Did you see normal people try
• 41:18
  and become more surreal? Yes.
• 41:19
  OK, Yeah, because I'm fascinated by that.
• 41:22
  That always happens when they think there's a trend for
• 41:25
  something. Yeah, I think there was this.
• 41:31
  This is something commercialised that there was this, I forget
• 41:38
  the name of the cereal, but there was this cereal that kind
• 41:41
  of ripped off a boost thing with Bala or or.
• 41:47
  No, they did. They did a crimp.
• 41:50
  Yeah, just like, just like the Bush.
• 41:53
  And it was like, in a way, it was a compliment.
• 41:57
  In a way, it was like a RIP off. But it was like, this is what
• 42:01
  the kids are going to love. Yeah.
• 42:02
  So this is how we'll sell the cereal.
• 42:05
  I forget the name of the cereal. I was probably eating up.
• 42:08
  I was. Probably eating up Yeah Bush.
• 42:11
  Endorsed this. Damn it.
• 42:15
  So you're going to find out Thursday.
• 42:18
  I'm going to say you won. So congratulations.
• 42:22
  Let's do two of them. Yeah, I'm sorry, lost.
• 42:26
  Yeah, well, you know, the competition was tough.
• 42:28
  Yeah, I performed well on the day and.
• 42:31
  But to but to be considered that part of that select group is
• 42:36
  really good. Yeah, I think the one of the one
• 42:40
  of the things that I think is a privilege is that I'm I'm very
• 42:46
  much of the level that I'm always just happy to be
• 42:48
  involved. Whereas you meet, do you?
• 42:50
  Really mean? That I do, yeah.
• 42:51
  Yeah. Oh, OK.
• 42:52
  Because you meet those people who they're like, if I don't
• 42:54
  fucking win, like I've met people before who get to the
• 42:57
  finals of like huge competitions and they're like, well, I'm not
• 43:00
  going to post about it because I didn't.
• 43:01
  Win. Who knows what factors are
• 43:03
  involved exactly. Yeah, and they get.
• 43:06
  I bet if you found out all the factors you'd be like it would
• 43:10
  put you off. Oh yeah, I, like, I probably
• 43:13
  already haven't won before. The flag is in.
• 43:16
  Well, all right, get a speech prepared.
• 43:19
  Just you think so? Yeah, a little one.
• 43:21
  Now listen, I have a segment in the show called Fill in the
• 43:27
  Blank. Oh, you do?
• 43:29
  OK, I've. Listened.
• 43:30
  I've listened. So this is specifically for you,
• 43:33
  so don't. You don't have to be funny, just
• 43:35
  fill in the blank. Blank is the coolest thing I've
• 43:39
  done this month. Oh, it's a podcast.
• 43:46
  This. One this podcast.
• 43:47
  Wow, nice, thank you. If I wasn't born Irish, I'd
• 43:53
  probably like to be born blank. Jamaican.
• 43:57
  Really. Yeah.
• 43:58
  Are you part Jamaican? No.
• 43:59
  Oh, I usually wind up blanking if I'm at home and really bored.
• 44:05
  Scrolling. Yeah, you go down the rabbit
• 44:09
  hole. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:12
  My algorithm is mental. Really.
• 44:16
  Yeah, my algorithm I sometimes. We could only see your
• 44:18
  algorithm. Yeah, I send reels to friends
• 44:21
  sometimes and they just say are you OK?
• 44:23
  Are you what? What do you mean reels?
• 44:26
  Like I'll just send like a like an Instagram video to somebody
• 44:31
  that I, that I think is normal. Oh yeah, yeah, I think it's a
• 44:33
  normal algorithm and. This is like 10 down from
• 44:36
  normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:40
  I get it. Yeah, Blank is the celebrity I
• 44:42
  most think I resemble. Not just looks, but in every
• 44:47
  way. Good one, huh?
• 44:51
  Yeah, wow. I don't know.
• 44:55
  Can't. Can I get that again?
• 44:56
  Can I get it? Blank.
• 44:57
  Blank is celebrity. Like who's the celebrity you
• 45:00
  think you resemble but not necessarily just looks, but you
• 45:05
  know, personality wise and stuff.
• 45:09
  Maybe. Maybe.
• 45:10
  Maybe Bugs Bunny? He I don't know if you do or
• 45:16
  not, I think. You just, I know who it really
• 45:21
  is, but I don't, I don't know who the person is.
• 45:23
  It's not a celebrity, but it's the there's like a meme that I
• 45:26
  look exactly like the guy from the meme.
• 45:28
  Oh, you do. Yeah, it's like if you've ever
• 45:30
  seen the meme of it's like an anime character holding his hand
• 45:33
  up and there's a butterfly there.
• 45:35
  Do you know Kenny? I look exactly like that guy.
• 45:39
  OK. Like to the point that people
• 45:41
  have sent that to me and they've gone.
• 45:43
  Is this you? Really.
• 45:44
  Yeah, which I don't know how it could be, but.
• 45:48
  Because you haven't always had the moustache, have you?
• 45:50
  No. No, this is pre moustache
• 45:53
  actually the oh let's just say Tom Selleck then.
• 45:55
  All right, that sounds good. And the last question is, the TV
• 46:02
  show I'm most embarrassed to admit I like is blank.
• 46:06
  Married at first sight. Oh, which country?
• 46:11
  The UK one the. UK, I've seen those.
• 46:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm the thing about me is I love
• 46:18
  drama. Yeah, I love.
• 46:20
  When they get in the room together and talk at each other.
• 46:24
  I'd rather watch it if it was just a super cut of like maybe
• 46:27
  you get a little CHEAT SHEET and it tells you everything that
• 46:29
  happened and then you just watch the arguments.
• 46:32
  Yeah, like, I like that. I like the The Celebrity Traitor
• 46:37
  where they're talking about each other, yeah.
• 46:40
  Yeah, oh traitors, I'm skipping my past the task.
• 46:44
  Yeah, I couldn't care. Less about the task, like we're
• 46:48
  going straight to the. The task is just, I don't know,
• 46:51
  like just a way to stretch it out.
• 46:53
  Otherwise it would be 5 minutes. You would just watch 5 minutes
• 46:56
  and you go, yeah, that's good, that's good.
• 46:59
  Well, Roger, I know you have a gig later because this is the
• 47:02
  evening. Yes, this is.
• 47:05
  And do you have anything that you would like to promote or oh?
• 47:11
  Yes, I'd love to promote a few things.
• 47:13
  The I have some tour dates coming up.
• 47:16
  I'm I'm going to be in Soho Theatre at the start of January.
• 47:20
  That's great. Yeah.
• 47:21
  Yeah. Which room?
• 47:23
  It's like the small room upstairs.
• 47:25
  Oh, that's a good one. Yeah.
• 47:26
  So that's about the size of my audience.
• 47:28
  So if, if people can go to that, I also have, I'm going to be on
• 47:33
  the 1st of March, I'm going to be in Edinburgh at Monkey
• 47:36
  Barrel. Oh, that's great.
• 47:38
  Yeah, and I also have a podcast. We're not going to promote other
• 47:44
  podcasts. I told I understand.
• 47:45
  What are you Hi. I'm sorry.
• 47:47
  Yeah. No, no, no.
• 47:48
  I know, I know. What's the podcast?
• 47:51
  It's called Marty and Roger, Remember that?
• 47:54
  And me and another Irish comic, Marty Gleason.
• 47:57
  We just remember things from the 90s.
• 47:58
  Oh, nice. Yeah.
• 48:00
  Do you have it planned or do you just sit around?
• 48:03
  We, we kind of just sit around. We, we like pick a topic.
• 48:07
  Yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, we inhale on
• 48:10
  straws and then we just remember the 90s.
• 48:13
  It's good. It was a good time.
• 48:15
  Oh, nice. Yeah.
• 48:16
  And if somebody wants to find out about all this stuff, is
• 48:19
  there a link or something? Yeah, if they follow me on
• 48:22
  Instagram at Roger O Comedy, that's the best place to find
• 48:25
  all the. And how, how would somebody get
• 48:27
  on Instagram? So if if you so let's say you
• 48:30
  have a mobile phone. This is for our over 90s.
• 48:33
  OK, so if you have a mobile phone then Google.
• 48:36
  Have you heard of Google? Google.
• 48:39
  Google. OK.
• 48:40
  You'd go to Yeah, Go to YEAH. Well, listen, good luck.
• 48:46
  I'm so glad you won this award. Yeah.
• 48:49
  And it's really going to help your career.
• 48:52
  Yeah, I think that really a lot of people are saying that if I
• 48:57
  don't win and I'm robbed. Yes.
• 48:59
  Yeah, yeah. So it was good that I did win
• 49:01
  because if I didn't win, everyone.
• 49:02
  Would not, thank God. Yeah.
• 49:04
  All right, Roger, best of luck to you.
• 49:07
  Thanks for coming. Thank you.
• 49:08
  It's been an honour. Thank you very much.
• 49:10
  Yeah. You can ask me more Boosh
• 49:12
  questions later. Oh yeah.
• 49:14
  Yeah, I will. Now, if you want to check him
• 49:17
  out, he's going to be at the Soho Theatre.
• 49:20
  Check out their website, soho3theatretheatre.co.uk.
• 49:26
  And I think he's going to be in January, right, Kenny?
• 49:30
  Yeah, and also yours truly will be at the Moth Club December
• 49:36
  3rd. That's December 3rd.
• 49:40
  Check it out on the website. It's going to be a great night.
• 49:44
  Lots of comics on the bill and yours truly.
• 49:47
  And if you want to hear more and watch more about this podcast,
• 49:53
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