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Postseason X-factors, Ron Washington out w/Angels, Bochy to SF? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: This is it. We're doing it. Playoffs. Yes, here we
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Are we allowed to root for teams?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh not you?
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  Speaker 2: Why not me?
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  Speaker 1: Because you have a game coming up?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you're doing at root for the Padres.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can root for the Padres. Yeah? Why
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  Speaker 1: because you love the cub so much? Exactly brackets. Let's
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  Speaker 1: do it just quick hitter though, because I got a
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  Speaker 1: lot to get to today, So krats, give me your
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  Speaker 1: breakdown of what you think is going to happen over
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  Speaker 1: the next few weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Phillies are gonna win the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Mariners are going to make it to
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  Speaker 3: the World Series. And I think that's rage baiting when
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  Speaker 3: you choose a team to cheer against, not a team
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  Speaker 3: to cheer four.
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  Speaker 1: Explain anything else here. You got like thirty seconds. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got the Tigers and Mariners, the Yankees and the
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays.
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  Speaker 2: I think the series.
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  Speaker 3: I think the series between the Red Sox Yankees is
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the billing that it like everybody thinks it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be. I think it's gonna be a great series.
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  Speaker 3: The Dodgers series is sorry Red, It's a nice job.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the Cubs and Padres series is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be knock them out, drag him.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be. I think it's gonna be awesome to
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  Speaker 2: watch for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: This is the most homersh bracket I've ever seen in
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  Speaker 2: my life. I mean, Brewers, Phillies, and the NLCS. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: come on, Broy, Phillies win because I'm a Phillies fan
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs?
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  Speaker 1: True, what would you do if the White Sox were
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs?
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't pick them if they weren't gonna win. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I did the White Sox Astros in twenty one, and
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  Speaker 2: everyone said I hated the White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you think that?
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  Speaker 2: Because he said that, I was grew open the rooting
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  Speaker 2: against the White Sox.
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  Speaker 1: Oh how dare you not say that?
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  Speaker 2: The project?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So what's your bracket breakdown?
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  Speaker 2: I went anti Crats. Actually, I just picked every team.
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  Speaker 2: The Crats you know, didn't play for that. We made
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  Speaker 2: it all the way to the postseason. Dodgers, I know,
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers beat the Reds, Dodgers beat the Phillies, Padres beat
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs, Brewers beat the Padres, Dodgers beat the Brewers
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  Speaker 2: go to the World Series. Detroit beats the Guardians. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: what's the other series? Yankees beat the Red Sox, Yankees
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  Speaker 2: beat the Blue Jays, Mariners beat the Tigers, Mariners beat
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees in the longest travel of all time in
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  Speaker 2: LCS history. And at the end of the day, the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers beat the.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners, Dodgers Mariners. Nice, Okay, I can see it. I'll
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  Speaker 1: go last. I guess I like Crats. I have the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers and the Mariners meeting up. I have the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: and Blue Jays. We have a lot of similarities here, Crats.
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  Speaker 1: I have the Mariners taking down the Blue Jays a
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  Speaker 1: little pitching edge there, Dodgers beating the Reds, Phillies beating
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers with a pitching edge. There in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: Padres and Brewers matching up. Padres quote upsetting them, Padres
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  Speaker 1: and Phillies rematch from a series you did, right, didn't
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  Speaker 1: you do that series? Or no? But that was that
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  Speaker 1: was when the Padres you were that year, right, we
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  Speaker 1: had Padres Dodgers, Padres Dodgers ago, yeah, two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and then it was they might have been three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Whatever twenty two Padres, Phillies, Phillies take
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  Speaker 1: them down, Phillies and Mariners Phillies quote last dance with
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  Speaker 1: this group intact in my mind, then they win it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I did. I did the two
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  Speaker 2: teams I almost played for. I made it to the
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  Speaker 2: World Series because I almost played for the Mariners and
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  Speaker 2: I almost played for the Dodgers. I I thought I'd
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  Speaker 2: signed with the Dodgers one year. I thought I was
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  Speaker 2: getting traded to the Mariners. But somehow they both got
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  Speaker 2: nicked at the last second.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why what would those two Mariners story is hilarious,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't have time for it, right, Yeah, Yeah, this.
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  Speaker 3: Is the Crats postseason. Only two teams I did not
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  Speaker 3: play for that are in the postseason. So I had
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  Speaker 3: a tough choice not to choose somebody I didn't play.
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  Speaker 1: For, right, hard not to be a homer in this
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  Speaker 1: series when you've played for most of the teams Phillies
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  Speaker 1: and Brewers, yes, and a little Yankee action, yes, full
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  Speaker 1: Homer and Blue Jays. I mean, there's there's just so many.
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  Speaker 2: Teams anyway, so many.
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  Speaker 2: Charging about.
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  Speaker 1: Postseason X factors. What is an X factor. Don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about it. Just name the postseason X factor players and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll decide if they are legit X factors. Let's
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  Speaker 1: throw names like back and forth. So you start with
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  Speaker 1: one name that you think is a big X factor
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  Speaker 1: in October.
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  Speaker 2: Hobby bios. Why because do they get the good hobby
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  Speaker 2: bios or do they get the bad hobby bios in
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  Speaker 2: the second half? Where does he plays? He play center?
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  Speaker 2: Does he play short? Does he bounce around? Well, he's
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  Speaker 2: stay in the strike zone. Can he do things to
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  Speaker 2: help them? I think Harvey Bayo's is a big thing.
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  Speaker 2: If the Detroit Tigers want to go deep into the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Shortstop nine spot in Game one.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. But he's got to hit, and he's
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  Speaker 2: gotta have forget hitting. He's just gotta have good at bats,
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  Speaker 2: productive at bats when he needs to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first couple of months, man, he fell off.
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  Speaker 1: In the last four months.
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  Speaker 2: Second half, he.
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  Speaker 1: Was Okay, that's a good name to start. I like
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  Speaker 1: that name.
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  Speaker 2: Kratz, Trek Scouble, No.
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  Speaker 1: Are you messing with us?
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  Speaker 2: We had the same conversation last year. He's the best
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  Speaker 2: pitcher in the game. He's not an X factor. He
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  Speaker 2: is the factor.
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  Speaker 3: X factor has to be somebody who if they don't
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  Speaker 3: play well, their team doesn't win.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's the other way. You need somebody that will
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  Speaker 2: play well in order to help the team win. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: because everyone expects Trek Scouble to do something, it has
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  Speaker 2: to be somebody that no one is expecting. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the X factors. Like last year, who was the X
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  Speaker 2: factor for the Dodgers? Key k Hernandez had big hits
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  Speaker 2: for the.
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  Speaker 1: Dog Tommy Edmund.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund was an X factor for him because you
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  Speaker 2: show in Freddy Young Carlo Stanton last year and you
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  Speaker 2: guys roasted me for that. Because he's playoff John Carlow,
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  Speaker 2: they expect him to do well.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that was a much better pick than
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  Speaker 1: Schooble score a grate, a top three pitcher in the sport.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I went to chat ept on this one and said,
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  Speaker 1: is Schooble qualifying as a legit X factor or doesn't
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  Speaker 1: need to be a more unexpected name. They said, if
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  Speaker 1: you mean the guy who can swing the whole postseason,
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  Speaker 1: then yes. If you mean unexpected breakout, then no.
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  Speaker 2: Well to me, it's an unexpected breakout.
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  Speaker 3: Unexpected breakout, then my Tigers. X factor is going any team, No, No,
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  Speaker 3: I still think it's Tigers because I think they they
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  Speaker 3: can make They can make more of a run at
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  Speaker 3: the Mariners then I think the Guardians can. So that's
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  Speaker 3: why I was going Tigers. Parker Meadows, Parker Medi's the
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  Speaker 3: X factor plays a premium position, but he may not
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  Speaker 3: play that premium position. He may not Hobby may play
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  Speaker 3: center field, depending on who's on the mound, the Mariners. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: I'm putting cart before the horse here. They have to
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  Speaker 3: beat the Guardians, but when they play the Mariners, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to be out there. They're not throwing a lefty out,
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  Speaker 3: They're not throwing a lefty starter. So he's going to
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  Speaker 3: get a ton of burn in center field. And what
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  Speaker 3: kind of at bats does he put up? And he
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  Speaker 3: is He's got a chance some day to win Golden Center.
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  Speaker 1: The turm X factor gets thrown around in sports all
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  Speaker 1: the time, but it isn't always used consistently. It's a
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  Speaker 1: player whose performance can disproportionately swing the outcome of a
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  Speaker 1: playoff series or a season, usually because they have the
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  Speaker 1: talent to change games, but also some uncertainty. And they're
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  Speaker 1: basically saying that both of your answers apply. But generally
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  Speaker 1: in sports it's used as more of a name that
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  Speaker 1: you didn't expect, more of a mid tier name to
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  Speaker 1: break out and be the difference maker. But that's not
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  Speaker 1: what the definition is. But that's how sports has accepted it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, then I'll take another name, and I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: Parker Meadows one.
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  Speaker 1: We'll take it. Okay, give me someone that's.
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  Speaker 2: Not about two pitches.
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  Speaker 3: Someone that's not on the patient up there at the plate.
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  Speaker 1: Can we make this series about another team? Who else?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have? Give me ANX yours?
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  Speaker 1: I have to go, well, yeah, uh, Tyler Heyneman is
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  Speaker 1: that he is joining us in two minutes. I think
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  Speaker 1: that he's an X factor. I think the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: need to show up with some pop. The catcher position
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  Speaker 1: has been a strength for them with Tyler and with
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  Speaker 1: Alejandro Kirk that's a good X factor.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's yes, I agree? And will he get some
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  Speaker 2: at bats.
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  Speaker 1: For Let me put this out there. The Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: tried for Otani. I don't care. They tried for Soda,
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  Speaker 1: they tried for Rokie. They didn't get any of them.
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  Speaker 1: They did their own offseason this year where they got
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  Speaker 1: Santander that's been a bust for the year. Surezer was
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  Speaker 1: out for a good chunk of the year. Jeff Hoffman
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  Speaker 1: was good, not great. A lot of Homer's given up right.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of their moves that they made Amenez hasn't
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  Speaker 1: hit this year, were not great. What they did do
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  Speaker 1: exceptionally well is the depth at the margins. Barger, Heinemann, Ernie, Clement, Lucas.
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  Speaker 1: Those kind of guys are better than a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other teams. You know eighteen nineteen twentieth men who was
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  Speaker 1: the other one you said lower great example that they've
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  Speaker 1: done exceptionally well. Well, we see those guys continue to thrive.
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  Speaker 1: So we get one more, Yes, one more nationally.
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  Speaker 2: He guys can get on me for this, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go for it anyways.
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  Speaker 1: Pa, that's a star name though I was Scooball not allowed,
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  Speaker 1: but peace.
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  Speaker 2: Jay, I'll accept it. That's a great Much like Hovey Bayas.
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  Speaker 2: If you sense a theme here, PCA's second half was
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  Speaker 2: much like Hobvey Baya is the second half. And they
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  Speaker 2: need Hobvey, they need Hobby and they need PCA and
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  Speaker 2: especially in these shorter series, if they're gonna win to
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  Speaker 2: do something because we don't know another. I mean, we
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  Speaker 2: don't know what we're getting out of Kyle Tucker real
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  Speaker 2: the Cubs, So PCA really has to step it up.
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  Speaker 1: And even if he doesn't hit, he does a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other things. Well, if he gets on base, he's obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Was my X factor.
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  Speaker 1: Haha. All right, Krats, you're gonna do this the whole show. Crats.
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  Speaker 1: One more name and then we gotta get to Tyler Quick.
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  Speaker 3: Brandon Marsh with the Phillies home exact opposite. He's had
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  Speaker 3: an unbelievable since like May fifteenth or whatever. They will platoon,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe not the way that everybody thinks, and he
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  Speaker 3: needs to stay hot.
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  Speaker 2: He needs a continue to stay hot.
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  Speaker 3: And I always feel like guys in the seventh, sixth
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  Speaker 3: to eighth spot in the lineup are key because you're
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  Speaker 3: pitching around everybody else in the lineup and then you
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  Speaker 3: get to that spot and those are the guys that
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  Speaker 3: can swing a series.
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  Speaker 1: Well done. If you think we're off on our X
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  Speaker 1: factor definition, let us know if you're checking this out
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  Speaker 1: in the comments and give us your X factor thumbs
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  Speaker 1: up or thumbs down. Manager moves for you. This one
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  Speaker 1: is thumb sideways, Bruce Bochie and the Rangers mutually agreeing
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  Speaker 1: that he's done managing Texas. That's it. He's been offered
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  Speaker 1: a front office role to remain with the team in
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  Speaker 1: an advisory capacity. He won the World Series with them
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  Speaker 1: his first year, and then the Rangers have missed the
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  Speaker 1: playoffs the last couple of years. I mean, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to say skip Strumarkers for the rescue. Clearly he was
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  Speaker 1: going over there in anticipation.
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  Speaker 2: This He's been talked about for a while though, Bochie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this year, this year being the last year, Yes, why.
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  Speaker 2: Just because he's seven years old. He already won there.
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  Speaker 2: Just I just think that this was something that people
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  Speaker 2: had thought about for a while, and now he brought
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  Speaker 2: in Skippy Schumacher.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I even joked with Bochi about this last time I
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  Speaker 2: did a Rangers game.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, well, he sits back in his chairs, like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's too soon to.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that. It's like the last week of the year.
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  Speaker 2: I was a month or so to go. But no,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't want to talk about it. But I think
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  Speaker 2: that this is something that had been rumored for a while,
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  Speaker 2: and now it happened, and now it's gonna be interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see if it is Skipp because Skip is there.
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  Speaker 2: He was there, remember kind of everyone said, oh, he's
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  Speaker 2: their manager and waiting for Bochie. Now does Boachie take
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco job? That's what everyone keeps asking also,
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  Speaker 2: so it's gonna be fascinating to see what old Boach
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  Speaker 2: does or you go home and go fishing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always curious about this two crats because they said mutual.
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  Speaker 1: But if Boach ends up managing somewhere else like San Francisco,
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  Speaker 1: is it really mutual?
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  Speaker 3: Or maybe his frustration in the last series. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what did he say in the last series? He was
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  Speaker 3: like I got to see a different level out here.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he's like, why am I going to keep pushing something?
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  Speaker 3: Because he is seventy that if these guys aren't going
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  Speaker 3: to put the effort out, maybe I don't feel like
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  Speaker 3: I have a voice that can be mutual. He can
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  Speaker 3: also still go to San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: I know for a.
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  Speaker 3: Fact these teams are already doing interviews today, not just
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  Speaker 3: the Rangers, multiple teams are already doing these interviews. So
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  Speaker 3: this process is gonna happen like that.
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  Speaker 1: Which team will aroocrats manage next year.
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  Speaker 2: The Christopher Doc Pioneers.
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  Speaker 1: Good, we're keeping him. Rocco ball Deli out as Twins manager.
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  Speaker 1: It's all Rocos far No.
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  Speaker 2: This one kind of surprises me.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm being circus one kind of surprise.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what Rocco could have done. They traded
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  Speaker 2: the whole team, literally the whole team. O, how do
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  Speaker 2: you You can't blame the manager for that.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing he could have done, is what there's
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  Speaker 1: one thing he could have done. He could have walked
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  Speaker 1: Joe Polad into a room and said, signed the team
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  Speaker 1: over to me to rescue this.
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota just surprised me because I thought Roco was a
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  Speaker 2: good fit there. Everyone seemed to like Rocco. I know,
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  Speaker 2: talking to Roco, he's always very positive. He's always very upbeat,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how bad the circumstances were. I mean, but
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  Speaker 2: this can't be just from this year. This has to
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  Speaker 2: be from last year when they kind of choked away
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  Speaker 2: the division. I kind of they did, and then now
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: this year was losing the whole team. But maybe you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Roco and Derek Falvey, who's in charge of this, had
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: differences and opinion on where they should go. So you
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: see kind of a lot is that there's differences in opinion.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I think last year the scapegoat was fad Levine. In
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: this year they go with Rocco. This is easy, I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: mean to me, partially, this is ownership right. They're not
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: going to do much in the offseason. The pollads are
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: trying to sell this. They're just waiting for the CBA
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: to pass. But for publicity, he's completely lost because he
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: thinks he's the best person to run the team. So
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: he's telling people up, we're gonna get a new manager
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: that'll fix things. You have to do something right. You
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: can't do zero because they're not gonna do much roster
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: construction wise. This team is in wait until we sell mode.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So let's blame another person. Last year was bad and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: this year it was Roco. I mean, they're probably it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: that short of blaming Manny Margo for going oh for
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a billion in twenty twenty four has a bench hitter.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: But Eric Kratz, how much of this had to do
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: with Rocco Baldelli, the Minnesota Twins being crap?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Thanks zero, Good for Roco. Good for Roco that he's got,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: he's got an opportunity to go somewhere else. Never good
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: if somebody gets fired. But this guy, in my opinion,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I think he's a good manager. From players that I
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: talked to, they absolutely loved playing for him, and I
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: don't think he did anything wrong. Every trade deadline, Oh
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: here's your new play. Sorry, we didn't get anybody, so
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: it's easy for them to go, yeah, it's all your fault.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: We didn't give you anybody extra. So whatever you give
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: get us out of this team, that is a bonus.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So to me, there's some openings and I think he's
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: going to be interviewing for a few of them.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yep, he'll probably be managing a playoff team next year.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And then lastly, real quick, Carlos Mendoza and Ali Marmol
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: both are back. In case you were wondering, I think
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Marmo was more of the question mark just because Bloom
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: takes over, but he's going to stick with Oli.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So well, you see what you see having is people
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: take over like Buster Posey, they give their guy one year, right,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and then they see how we like him. All he's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: been a cardinal lifer though, and all he's great, So.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for him.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I respect for Carlos Mendozo too. I mean he came
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on in the last week of the year when they
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: were going.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Through it no pitchers. I mean he had to manage
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a minor league pitching staff.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And people that say, question is move he had Edwin
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Diaz in that must win game in like the fifth
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: inning on.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Sunday, wouldn't matter. They scored lot, they scored year run.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: So people are like, oh, he didn't. It's a pitching staff.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Right away, what day scored zero zero runs? Okay? Aj
• 19:05
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• 19:09
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• 19:12
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• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Junior rookie card. The old is the famous upper deck one.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I believe it is. And yeah, heck ya, I'm gonna
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: keep it because I'm gonna get Griffy to sign it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ge him to send it to me. What
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you can do and I'm gonna get Griffy to sign it,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and it's only gonna make it worth more. So I
• 19:29
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• 19:31
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• 19:34
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• 19:37
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• 19:40
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• 19:43
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• 19:46
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• 19:47
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• 19:50
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• 20:00
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• 20:04
  Speaker 1: One other note from after yesterday's show, Ben Charrington coming
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: back for a seventh season after six straight losing seasons.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: The rebuild continues in Pittsburgh. Noah Hayle's put that out
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and the comments were whoa. And also he put out
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a story about some players speaking anonymously about how the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: team's joke and feels so different to be in that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: order versus the rest of them. I actually see what
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I do too, but I feel for Skeens Skeans.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: What about Connor Griffin, the Minor League.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Player of the Year, He doesn't even know what he's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: getting into you. Yeah, here's the thing.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: They have some pieces. Brian Rolds is a nice player.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You sound like Bob Nutty.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Pieces.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We have some pieces. Let's bring Ben back again. But like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: come on, you got six years. This is past your
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: five year plan.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I know, but this is what GM's do. Oh, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: fired the manager. He wasn't doing what I wanted, So
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I need five more years.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I was the manager, gotz.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Well, Don Kelly did better.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It wasn't the manager. You can't fire the owner. Sorry,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: that's it. And they do have nice pieces. Connor Griffin,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I get it's one year in the minor leagues, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: if you have a franchise cornerstone, I think it is
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: something you can build on. But the keyword is building
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: on it. Build on that pitching staff, build on Connor Griffin,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: build on Brian Reynolds before you lose Schemes. So basically
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: they have two years to get this thing done and
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: then Schemes is gone.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Speaking news, Ron Washington is hoping to get back to
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: good health and return to the Angels. He will not
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: have that opportunity, and neither will Raymontgomery, who was the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: interim manager. Neither of them returning to the Angels for
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Sam Blum doing a great job always
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: reporting on the Angels. No confirmed info yet on perrimination
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: who is the GM of the team for now, But
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the Angels will definitely have a new manager next year.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the surprise. Remember Ron Washington
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: had the health problems. That the he had the heart problems.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I believe it was.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Montgomery was taken over, Precomery took over,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: so he was.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Kind of the interim guy. This is not a surprise.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I mean watched his contract was up, I believe, so
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I think that this was This was not a surprise.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Now the only question is perriman Asian coming back as
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the GM in President of Baseball off. So we'll see.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you never know that you know, who
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: knows what? Anaheim and the Angels.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: We have some hot mess teams from the top.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they should bring back Film.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I thought he did a nice job given the personnel.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Krat's no surprise here, right that the Angels will continue
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to rotate the manager carousel. They should bring back Joe
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Madden too. Why not? I thought Joe's Mike Soosha, yep,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Mike Sosia all good managers, but apparently not in Anaheim.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They do not please are Marino?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: What is to me if you're a manager and you're like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: let's say it's Skip Schumacher and he's got experience, he's
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: brought in my question and I don't know if the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: prospective managers ever get to ask a question. But he's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: in a spot where he's like, oh, I got experience,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I don't have to have this job. What is the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: expectation that you have of me as your manager? Do
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you expect me to win with the teams that you
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: not Perrymansian put together? Is your expectation that I am
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: supposed to be a playoff build a playoff team with
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: what you were giving me? Because if that's the expectation,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I need more than a two year deal. He keeps
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: giving out two year deals. I need more than that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I need more of a runway.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: If it's somebody like like we had go go on
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the other day, If it's Ryan Goins and he's like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I gotta have a managerial job, like I gotta get
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: my foot wet somehow, then you know what, you don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: really have a choice.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm going to present the other side.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Here, Bob Melvin. Somebody in the chat said, Bob Melvin,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: he hasn't managed it in iim yet. Sure, he's got
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: to check off every California and West Coast team.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That's true, he's gonna make the tour. But playing off
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: his point, he said, if you're rying going you don't
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: have a ton of leverage. You're trying to get into
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a manager position.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's why people take these jobs.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but washing didn't have leverage either because he hadn't
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: gotten a job in forever, and so he's like, yeah,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I'll do what I gotta do. I'll take a short
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: term deal just to join the party here and see
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: if I can catch a little bit of fire. But
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: it's rough organization to manage it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Is, but people want that. You gotta look at Look
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: at Terry Francona, Right, he went to Philly, who didn't
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: do very well. Okay, but they they saw enough to
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: hire him in Boston. Right. So a lot of times,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: if you look at a lot of managers, their first
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: chop doesn't work out tremendously. Now, there are there are
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: times that it does, but more than likely the first
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: time for a lot of guys, doesn't work out great,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Tony the Russa White Sox fired right, unceremoniously, let go
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: by Hawk, the Hawker Roo. I mean, there's a lot
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: of guys you can look at. It didn't work out,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Tremando and it's the second time where they win that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: World Series and they make that move.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: But who has worked out for the Angels? Yeah, for
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the Guardians. But the Guardians are run pretty well. And
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I just to be clear, I'm going directly to the
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: top of the food chain here. This has been an
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: issue for a long time for the Angels, okay, And
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I think there are some nice pieces, There are some
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: promising pieces. But there are a few organizations that run
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: very differently from everyone else. And this is one of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: those organizations. Right. The Pirates are in this list, The
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Rockies are in this list. Do we see a trend, Yes,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it's just not a thing for them for a long
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: period of time. It sucks. Hopefully someone else comes in
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and can help continue to, you know, bring something different
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and hopefully turn the tide. But some of it has
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to do with personnel, and a lot of it has
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to do with how an organization is run. They cut
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: corners whenever they can. It would be like if you
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: have a grandfather who's a little crap and he gets
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to wake up and run a team. I'm sorry, that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is how it is. If you talk to people within
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the organization, It's been like that for a long time.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: It happens. But Derek, I'll hire somebody because there's only
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: thirty of these jobs if people want to jump.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Beautiful setting, nice ballpark, nice young players.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Christian Moore.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm knocking one person here. I'm sorry. Okay, that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the one constant for a long period of time. Most
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: of the rest of the Angels organization has a lot
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of promise to it. But there's a reason why this
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: isn't working. And my only point here is there were
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: plenty of fans very critical of wash Right definitely has
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: his own style and some of the moves he made
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have made a difference. He was trying to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: do something different. Wash is different, right, His approach is different.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But I would say Pat murphy'spproach is different too, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that's working out pretty well for the Brewers, you know
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like some some Angels fins ah wosh
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: i gotta get him out. He wasn't the problem. No,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: So is there any human being on the planet that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: would have led the Angels to the playoffs this year
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a manager?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: No, you could say that about a lot of teams, right,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Twins by the manager.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Fall guy inspired their manager mid season? Exactly, Rocky inspired
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: their manager mid season.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: There actually were a lot of changes this year, about
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a third in the league. So what's next? Like, what
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: do you do?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: You know what if I'm the Angels, I go find
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: a young, hot commodity manager that can come in and
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I say, I'll give you a five or six year chance.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: In five or six I'm just saying for a manager.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I know, sounds crazy. I'm just saying, And you try
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: to get somebody who you think is the next thing,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: whether there's Joe Madden, whether it's whoever you want it
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: to be, whoever you think that next big thing is.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: You go and you say, all right, we're going to
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: give you a five year on track, in a five
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: year runway to figure out where to go and what
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: to do and try to do some different. Hey, we
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: got these great young players, let's see him all the
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: way through, right, and we're going to spend money the
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: right way. But now the question is will already do that?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not a knock on money either. Like
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the Angels have spent, they just haven't spent wisely. Sometimes
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like the knock on me is, oh, you're
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: just saying everyone's cheap. I'm not saying the Angels are cheap.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I don't say the Oriels are cheap either. I just
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: said they spent their money the wrong way. Lardy Morena
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: will buy that superstar talent, but then he'll get asked
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: about something really small on the budget that every other
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: team does, and he'll say, no, that's problem.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: The answer is, you got to find somebody that Ardi
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Morena will listen to and we'll trust that lifting lifting
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: weights in a tent for big leaguers for spring training
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: is probably not setting your team up. And if that's
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: a little thing that you don't want to change, now
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: they're changing that. So maybe he listens to Perimonesian. Maybe
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the that he has there will start to build something
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: that can be more the easy, low hanging fruit that
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: other teams already take care of that they weren't taking
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: care of. And it was like, oh, well, we need
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: to do this, So that's the answer. What that answer is,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Your point is a really good one because I think
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: about Buster Posey and how he literally can get giants'
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: ownership to do things that many others can't. So is
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: there somebody like that for the Angels? Here's the problem.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Some of that has been tried with guys around the organization.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I'll bring up one, but don't quote me too hard here.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to look this stuff up on
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the fly. I know there was a situation with Troy
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Percival and he was helping out and he was anti analytics,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and you can't do that right where he's knocking certain
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: things that everyone else is doing, so that ends up
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: making it worse. Wants Pictures to care more about eyes
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: than the tablets and the info. Like, you can't go
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: all out and just say, hey, we're going to go
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: back to the eighties, right Like, there's got to be
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a balance there. There is always that shift, and you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: need to be able to say, hey, like we're doing
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: too much here, But to just say like throw out
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: all this crap, you can't do that either. So that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: not the right person to be in his ear. You
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: need somebody that is keeping up with the modern game.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what your age is.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: He's got to be a new young guy that Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: let him have a little bit of free reign and
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: let them do some things, try some stuff, because what
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: they're doing now ain't working.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Who has enough clout to tell the owner I got.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: It, Joe Madden didn't have it, Who the heck has it?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: That's my question. I'm honestly asking. I'm like pleading with
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: people watching right now to come up with a name
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: that you think can help turn things around. And the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: only thing to really turn things around is to be
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in his ear and say, dude, I got this. You're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: not in baseball. You just own a team. You should
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: not be making decisions like this. Someone said, Erstad, you
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: need somebody that played and won with the Angels.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: What about Salmon?
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Were like, he's been around the team a little bit.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, but that would do that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't Urstad do that?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: He lives in Nebraska. You know, he's got kids that
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: are in high school. He just he cheated the Nebraska
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: coaching thing for a while. I don't know, maybe he would.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I call him and reach out, but
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think he would.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: He's connected with younger players. It's it's such a it's
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: such a threaded needle. The guy that you have to
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: you have to be able to connect with younger players.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: You got to be able to have enough big league
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: clout for Ardie Mourana to be like, oh okay, yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: I would. I would listen to something that you have
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: to say. You have to have some managerial experience. You
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: have to have something, because clearly he's gone after Joe Madden.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: He's gone, after he's gone after Ron Washington, like he's
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: tried everything in his mind. You gotta you gotta find
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: somebody that really threads all the needles.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And it's gonna be tough. Good luck, Perryman.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: As someone Carrere said, Bruce Bochi've.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Already done that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Gabe Capler gave Cappler's on here, Benji Molina, Joe Girardi
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  Speaker 1: good good names. I like this exercise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said. Tory Lavello spoke about something that
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  Speaker 1: we know and I think the world should know. I'll
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  Speaker 1: let toy take it away.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm the manager of the baseball team once it
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  Speaker 4: hits the dugout. Once it's in the dugout, I can
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  Speaker 4: make baseball decisions when it comes to personnel things, when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to the finer working dynamics inside of rotations
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  Speaker 4: and in lineups.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I have a.
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  Speaker 4: Seat at the table with their open discussions. The manager's
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  Speaker 4: roles have changed over the past twenty five years, that's
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  Speaker 4: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I like stability, I like consistency. I like trends and habits.
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  Speaker 4: I believe in the gut instinct, but there are certain
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  Speaker 4: things that change the mood and the mind of what
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  Speaker 4: decision has made. And there's a group of people around
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  Speaker 4: me inside of the baseball day that will help.
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  Speaker 2: Me make good decision.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a group of people that are behind the
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  Speaker 4: scenes that are making a lot of decisions that used
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  Speaker 4: to be made in the traditional baseball manager sense.
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  Speaker 2: And that's fine. I want to make it simple. I
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  Speaker 2: run a baseball game. That's all I need to do every.
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  Speaker 1: Single day, thank you. That's how it works with just
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  Speaker 1: about every team. There's been some I know there's been
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  Speaker 1: some situations where I've heard gms be like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I let the manager do whatever he wants. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: shut up. And I literally went to the manager for
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  Speaker 1: one of those situations and he was like, that's not true.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm not saying in a bad way,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like that's not true. Like why is he
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  Speaker 1: saying that. He's like, I don't know, it's like some
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  Speaker 1: taboo thing where they can't say that they have a
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  Speaker 1: say in the lineups, like this has been going on
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  Speaker 1: for what ten years now more maybe fifteen. I remember
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  Speaker 1: Bo Porter like didn't he reportedly get into it a
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  Speaker 1: little with lou Now about the lineup the store.
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  Speaker 2: There's a Larry most where he said when he went
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  Speaker 2: interviewed they in Houston, they said to him, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to give you the lineup every day. Are you okay
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  Speaker 2: with it? And Bo was like, this interview's over now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but that was hearsay
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  Speaker 2: from people. Sounds like sounds like Larry yeah, But I
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  Speaker 2: mean it also sounds like what they did.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think I think something that
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  Speaker 3: that Tory Levello didn't say in that interview. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't just manage, you know, when they're on the field,
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  Speaker 3: you're managing people now. I think we I think the
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  Speaker 3: AJ would agree that the managers nowadays are way different
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  Speaker 3: in how they interact with players and whether that's right
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  Speaker 3: or wrong, or you got to be old school or
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: you gotta be you know, Lou Panellen pissed off at
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  Speaker 3: every rookie and only lean on the That's like, that's
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  Speaker 3: up for debate. But I think that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: things that tory Leavelo does incredibly well. He manages people.
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  Speaker 3: AJ talked about, Hey, I played for this manager. He
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  Speaker 3: had the lineup for the entire week. I'm gonna play
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  Speaker 3: these four games. I'm gonna have off on Thursday, and
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  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna play Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Like, it's conversations
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  Speaker 3: that are talked with and talked through with the players
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  Speaker 3: so that they know what to expect. And that can't
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  Speaker 3: be that can't be had from the front office. That
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  Speaker 3: has to be the manager's job.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what he said was he played for Sparky Anderson,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and what he said about spark Anderson was the same
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: way I was when I played for Tom Kelly. Managers
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  Speaker 2: had all the power we over the gym. The managers
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: would tell the GM basically what they wanted and go
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: get this player, and the managers would literally tell you
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  Speaker 2: you're bad. You're not You're you're doing bad, You're well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't like you. You're out here. It happened a lot,
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's the way it's changed is everyone
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  Speaker 2: has to be understood and and me says for the
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  Speaker 2: better or worse it it depends on where you are.
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  Speaker 2: But I honestly think that it's just changed and communications
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  Speaker 2: is the key, like Carot's it.
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