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Episode One Hundred Eighty Six: Frack Checker · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and eighty six of
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Speaker 1: the Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host on today's show. The Harris Waltz Ticket
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Speaker 1: finally does its first formal interview, and it's totally consistent
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Speaker 1: with journalism being dead. I address whether my post DNC
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Speaker 1: polling prediction was incorrect. I'll also review the Netflix Connor
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Speaker 1: Stallions Michigan Scandal documentary, and some thoughts on the demise
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Speaker 1: of Labor Day and our collapsing calendar. We begin this
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Speaker 1: episode of the podcast with much anticipated first interview after
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Speaker 1: having been handed the Democratic presidential nomination of Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: and her vice presidential nominae, Tim Waltz.
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Speaker 2: This was done by Dana Bash of CNN.
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Speaker 1: I told you before it occurred, I did not expect
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Speaker 1: anything dramatic to happen because there was no chance for
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Speaker 1: that to occur. Bash wasn't going to do a Katie
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Speaker 1: Kuric on Sarah Palin situation, and if anything went wrong,
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Speaker 1: Tim Waltz would be there to pick up the fumball.
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Speaker 1: So there was no scenario where this was going to
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Speaker 1: go horrendously for Kamala Harris and I did not expect
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Speaker 1: Dana Bashe to do a good job of journalism. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: my low expectations were not met. I thought this was
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Speaker 1: an embarrassment from an interview standpoint, and so emblematic of
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Speaker 1: really not just the death of journalism, but the death
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Speaker 1: of the news interview, which we've discussed quite a bit
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Speaker 1: on this podcast in recent times, and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: get to exactly why in just a bit now. There
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Speaker 1: were some negatives about the interview from the Harris Waltz perspective.
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Speaker 1: The first was just the way that it looked, the
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Speaker 1: dynamics of it, sitting down at the table next to
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Speaker 1: Tim Waltz, and the way that they had Harris seated.
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Speaker 2: She looked literally very small.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people, I think, not without reason, looked
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Speaker 1: at this and said, this looks like a teenage girl
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Speaker 1: going to a job interview with her dad. That's kind
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Speaker 1: of what it looked like. So the optics were not good. Now,
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Speaker 1: were they bad enough to make a difference, I doubt it,
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that it created a great first
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Speaker 1: impression for Harris, who really one of her main challenges
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Speaker 1: in the last couple of months of this campaign is
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Speaker 1: crossing what I call the presidential threshold. That really maybe
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Speaker 1: her biggest challenge. Will there be enough people to just
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Speaker 1: accept her as commander in chief, first female president. Yes,
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Speaker 1: she has a huge advantage there because she's been vice
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Speaker 1: president for three and a half years, although sometimes her
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Speaker 1: campaign seems to pretend that she's had absolutely nothing to
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Speaker 1: do whatsoever with the Biden administration, which is maddening. But
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Speaker 1: I don't know that she still fully crossed that threshold.
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Speaker 1: And it's interviews like this and for instance, the debate
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Speaker 1: coming up against Trump that are really.
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Speaker 2: Critical for her to achieve that.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know that this interview did very much
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Speaker 1: on that front because it didn't look presidential.
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Speaker 2: And again, she couldn't do.
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Speaker 1: It on her own, or wouldn't do it on her own,
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Speaker 1: decided not to do it or on her own, And
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Speaker 1: the interview by Dana Bash was extremely soft. I mean,
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Speaker 1: when you compare just the body language, not to mention
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Speaker 1: the substance of the questions that Bash used with Harris
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Speaker 1: and Waltz, and compare it to what she used with
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Speaker 1: jd Vance, I mean, it's literally night and day.
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Speaker 2: The bias is everywhere.
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Speaker 1: And I've been saying that much of the mainstream left
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Speaker 1: wing media has been acting like the campaign manager for
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, literally the campaign manager, and this interview was
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent consistent with that.
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Speaker 2: And I don't want.
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Speaker 1: To spend too much time on it, but I want
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Speaker 1: to at least prove my point. And there were two,
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Speaker 1: at least two two most prominent situations that I want
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Speaker 1: to focus on because I think they exposed the absurdity
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Speaker 1: of this entire interview. And I've been discussing quite a bit,
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Speaker 1: and frankly, I've been stunned that more people haven't been
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Speaker 1: how it is that we have had this massive switcheroo
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Speaker 1: occur in the last couple of months, from Biden being
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Speaker 1: the nominee to Harris being the nominee, where there was
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Speaker 1: an obvious coup and where there was no democracy whatsoever,
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Speaker 1: where Harris just gets handed in the nomination without even
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Speaker 1: a fake open process, no open convention, not getting one
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Speaker 1: single vote somehow, not being forced to accept any responsibility
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Speaker 1: for being part of the coup or at least part
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Speaker 1: of the cover up to keep Biden going when everyone
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Speaker 1: knew that he wasn't physically capable of doing the job.
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Speaker 1: And that's been proven by the fact that he's basically
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Speaker 1: quit now, he's basically spending the rest of his vake
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Speaker 1: of his presidency on vacation on the beach while American
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Speaker 1: hostages get killed by Hamas. I mean, it's just unbelievable
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Speaker 1: that they've been able to get away with all this,
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Speaker 1: and in a remotely rational world. I mean, I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about a world where journalism even had a heartbeat, it
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Speaker 1: would be without question. The first inquiry from Dana Bash
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Speaker 1: my gosh, this is the first interview we have of
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Speaker 1: the woman who has been handed the Democratic presidential nomination
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Speaker 1: under unprecedented circumstances.
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Speaker 2: The first question has to be what did you know? When?
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Speaker 2: Did you know it?
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Speaker 1: Did you take part in the coup? Did you take
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Speaker 1: part in the cover up? How is it not hypocritical
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Speaker 1: for you to be handed this nomination with no votes,
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Speaker 1: no process, and for the Democratic Party to be claiming.
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Speaker 2: That they're trying to save democracy.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's all sorts of elements to this subject,
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Speaker 1: which absolutely in a pre insane world, which I'll always
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Speaker 1: go back to, twenty fifteen is the last time we
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Speaker 1: had any touch with reality whatsoever politically. But we've been
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Speaker 1: going in this direction for a very long time. But
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Speaker 1: in a remotely rational world, that's the first thing Dana
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Speaker 1: Bash asks about, that would be the first one. And
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Speaker 1: that's not what happened. That's not what happened at all.
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Speaker 1: She instead opens up with a.
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Speaker 2: Softball, a softball.
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Speaker 1: Of you know, basically, hey, tell us how awesome things
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Speaker 1: are going to be when you are president, or if
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Speaker 1: you're president, what are you going to do on day one?
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Speaker 1: That's not the first question, it's not even close to
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Speaker 1: the first question. Yet that's where data Bash win. And
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Speaker 1: here's what that sounded like.
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Speaker 3: Way here in Georgia.
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Speaker 4: You have less time to make your case to voters
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Speaker 4: than any candidate in modern American history. The voters are
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Speaker 4: really eager to hear what your plans are if you
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Speaker 4: are elected.
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Speaker 3: What would you do on day one in the White House.
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Speaker 5: Well, there are a number of things I will tell you.
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Speaker 5: First and foremost, one of my highest priorities is to
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Speaker 5: do what we can to support and strengthen the middle class.
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Speaker 5: When I look at the aspirations, the goals, the ambitions
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Speaker 5: of the American people, I think that people are ready
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Speaker 5: for a new way forward in a way that generations
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Speaker 5: of Americans have ueled by hope and by optimism. I think, sadly,
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Speaker 5: in the last decade, we have had in the former
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Speaker 5: president someone who has really been pushing an agenda and
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Speaker 5: an environment that is about diminishing the character and the
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Speaker 5: strength of who we are as Americans, really dividing our nation.
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Speaker 5: And I think people are ready to turn the page
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Speaker 5: on that.
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Speaker 3: So what would you do day one?
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Speaker 5: Day one, it's going to be about one implementing my
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Speaker 5: plan for what I call an opportunity economy. I've already
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Speaker 5: laid out a number of proposals in that regard, which
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Speaker 5: include what we're going to do to bring down the
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Speaker 5: cost of everyday goods, what we're going to do to
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Speaker 5: invest in America's small businesses, what we're going to do
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Speaker 5: to invest in families, for example, extending the child tax
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Speaker 5: credit to six thousand dollars for families for the first
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Speaker 5: year of their child's life, to help them buy a
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Speaker 5: car seat, to help them buy baby clothes, a crib.
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Speaker 5: There's the work that we're going to do that is
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Speaker 5: about investing in the American family. Around affordable housing, a
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Speaker 5: big issue in our country right now. So there are
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Speaker 5: a number of things on day one.
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Speaker 1: Now that is the kind of question you ask when
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Speaker 1: you are part of the Harris campaign.
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Speaker 2: You're teeing her up.
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Speaker 1: I mean, again, that would be bad under normal circumstances.
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Speaker 2: But this is an unprecedented situation.
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Speaker 1: Begging for Hey, how the hell did we get here?
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Speaker 1: How the hell did we get here? How did you
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Speaker 1: get here?
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Speaker 2: There's a whole lot to get to the bottom of.
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Speaker 2: And frankly, while I am always hesitant.
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Speaker 1: To give Democrats too much credit, I think they often,
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Speaker 1: especially in this situation, they get lucky and they have
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Speaker 1: all the advantages of the media on their side, the
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Speaker 1: weather's on their side. Figuratively, they try to make it
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Speaker 1: literal because of the whole climate change thing, but I dicress.
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Speaker 1: But the point is that I don't really think this
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Speaker 1: was a strategy. But if it was a strategy, it
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Speaker 1: was brilliant to just simply not discuss the Biden coup.
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Speaker 1: There could have been some strategic element to this. Just
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Speaker 1: don't discuss the Biden coup at all, because eventually the
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Speaker 1: media will just let it.
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Speaker 2: Go because they know it's not good for us.
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Speaker 1: That we know they're on our side, at least the
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Speaker 1: ones that we're gonna give access to, and they have
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Speaker 1: the attention spans of NATS. So if we just wait
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Speaker 1: long enough, this thing's gonna go away, even as huge
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Speaker 1: as it is, even as as insane as it is,
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Speaker 1: that we're just gonna pretend this never happened. I've been
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Speaker 1: half joking that, you know, by October, we're not even
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Speaker 1: gonna remember Joe Biden was ever the nominee for the
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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. And this is consistent with that theory of mine,
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Speaker 1: So that should have been the first question. And right there,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is gonna be a
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Speaker 1: complete joke, even worse than I expected. Now, for the record,
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Speaker 1: Bash later on did ask the Biden question, but she
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Speaker 1: didn't ask it at all from the perspective of what
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Speaker 1: did you know and when did you know it? As
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Speaker 1: far as the cover up or the coup. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: no no. She wanted the juicy tidbits about how she
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Speaker 1: found out about it, and the only remotely tough question
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Speaker 1: she asked was this is not a tough question at all.
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Speaker 1: She basically asked whether she regrets whether Harris regrets being
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Speaker 1: so loyal to Joe Biden. She didn't put in those words,
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Speaker 1: but that was basically the question, and some conservatives tried
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Speaker 1: to make it sound like Harris was saying that she
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Speaker 1: does not regret being part of the cover up of
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's intellectual demise, but unfortunately that wasn't the question.
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Speaker 1: If the question had been properly asked, I think could
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Speaker 1: have reasonably criticized Harris's answer, but that's not.
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Speaker 2: What the question was. She was saying, no, I don't
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Speaker 2: regret being so loyal to Joe Biden, and this, to
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Speaker 2: me is.
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Speaker 1: I think is going to go down, so this many
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Speaker 1: times before it's going to go down if Trump loses.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be the biggest mistake strategically that
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Speaker 1: he and his campaign made, which was not forcing Harris
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Speaker 1: to take any personal responsibility, any blame, having any blood
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Speaker 1: on her hands for the coup that could have been done,
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Speaker 1: that could have been set up at the Republican Convention,
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Speaker 1: regardless of what ended up happening after that. They didn't
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Speaker 1: do that, and she somehow got handed this nomination without
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Speaker 1: any blood, without any damage, And I think that's going
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Speaker 1: to potentially potentially end up being the difference in this election,
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Speaker 1: because her personal approval ratings are much better right now
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Speaker 1: than Donald Trump's, and it's not just.
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Speaker 2: Because of all the positive publicity.
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Speaker 1: It's because she was able to be handed this nomination
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Speaker 1: without anybody, anybody going, hey, wait a minute, you're the
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Speaker 1: one that benefited from this coup.
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Speaker 2: You were off like quiet while it happened.
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Speaker 1: You know, why shouldn't I believe that you were part
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Speaker 1: of this, or that you wanted this to happen, or
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Speaker 1: that you were disloyal as a vice president. Your only
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Speaker 1: job as vice president is to be loyal. So she somehow,
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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, somehow gotten away with being handed the nomination
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Speaker 1: but also not even having any questions about her loyalty.
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Speaker 2: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: The Democrats were allowed to get away with this largely
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Speaker 1: because of the media, and we're never going to get
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Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. Saw what happened with Dana
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Speaker 1: Bash and Jake Tapper when they interviewed Nancy Pelosi at
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Convention and she said, why are we still
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Speaker 1: talking about this? And then they ran away like little schoolgirls. Ooh, sorry,
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Speaker 1: we should not have asked about this.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to a hip.
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Speaker 1: Piece on Project twenty twenty five. That's literally what happened
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Speaker 1: in the Democratic Convention. And so here the same day
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Speaker 1: to Bash who participated in that fiasco is essentially now
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Speaker 1: for all time ending any chance there's even gonna be
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Speaker 1: legitimate questions asked of Kamala Harris, because now that she's
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Speaker 1: survived the first interview on this subject at least, and
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Speaker 1: it's the perception that she's been kind of sort of
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Speaker 1: asked about it, nobody is going to be forced to
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Speaker 1: ask about it again in the future, even if she
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Speaker 1: does interviews, which I'm not convinced that she's going to.
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Speaker 1: And in the media's mind, this is now a dead issue.
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Speaker 1: We've never actually addressed it, we never actually got to
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Speaker 1: the bottom of it. But that's the way they're gonna
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Speaker 1: look at it. Okay, done and done. The box has
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Speaker 1: been checked. Let's all move along because we know this
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Speaker 1: is a very bad issue for our team, and they're
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Speaker 1: on the same team, and Bash is clearly acting as
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Speaker 1: if she's on the same team as Harris and Waltz. Now,
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Speaker 1: one of the few I would say even remotely legitimate
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Speaker 1: tough questions that Bash asked of Harris was about her
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Speaker 1: flip flopping. But even there, even there, it's clear that
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Speaker 1: she's on Harris's team, because even within the question, if
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Speaker 1: you listen carefully. Even within the question, she's providing Harris
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Speaker 1: with possible explanations that she'll accept.
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Speaker 2: This is like the teacher giving.
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Speaker 1: The student the answer or a potential answer in case
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Speaker 1: they can't come up with one on their own for
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Speaker 1: the question. Literally, that's what this is. And the question
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Speaker 1: was not that sharp, was not that tough.
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Speaker 2: It was very benign.
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Speaker 1: It was clearly it checked the box on Bash's behalf.
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Speaker 1: She needed to check a couple of boxes herself so
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Speaker 1: she doesn't get completely mocked within the media world, which
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Speaker 1: is all she really cares about. But the news media world,
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Speaker 1: at least the portions of the news media world she
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Speaker 1: cares about, aren't going to be tough on her because
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Speaker 1: they know what the assignment is. The assignment is get
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Speaker 1: Harris through this. So here was one of the very
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Speaker 1: few remotely adversarial questions that Bash asked of Harris. CNN
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Speaker 1: actually put this out before the interview was broadcast. The
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Speaker 1: taped interview was broadcast, and by the way, you know,
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Speaker 1: CNN had a difficult time even getting this to an
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Speaker 1: hour because one of the more remarkable elements of this
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Speaker 1: whole thing is you have the first interview of the
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Speaker 1: presidential and vice presidential nominee together and the content the
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Speaker 1: actual question and answer period appears to have barely been
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Speaker 1: over half an hour for two people, three people if
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Speaker 1: you count Bash, three people a little over half an hour.
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Speaker 1: So they had the jam Thiss thing full of fluff
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Speaker 1: and pre produced packages and commercials just to get it
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Speaker 1: to an hour. But here was that I guess you
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Speaker 1: would call it an adversarial quadestion where Bash provides Harris
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Speaker 1: with potential answers, and then Harris's answer actually contains a
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Speaker 1: lie that Bash was not fully prepared for or to
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Speaker 1: combat against, which, to CNN's credit, they actually did clean
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Speaker 1: up later on, which I'm going to get to momentarily.
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Speaker 1: But here was Bash asking Harris about her flip flopping
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Speaker 1: on issues generally.
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Speaker 4: Speaking, How should voters look at some of the changes
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Speaker 4: that you've made that you've explained some.
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Speaker 3: Of here in your policy.
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Speaker 4: Is it because you have more experience now and you've
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Speaker 4: learned more about the information, it because you were running
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Speaker 4: for president in a Democratic primary? And should they feel
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Speaker 4: comfortable and confident that what you're saying now is going
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Speaker 4: to be your policy moving forward?
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Speaker 5: Dan, I think the most important and most significant aspect
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Speaker 5: of my policy perspective and decisions is my values have
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Speaker 5: not changed.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Green New Deal.
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Speaker 5: I have always believed and I have worked on it,
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Speaker 5: that the climate crisis is real, that it is an
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Speaker 5: urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that include
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Speaker 5: holding ourselves to deadlines around time. We did that with
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Speaker 5: the Inflation Reduction Act. We have set goals for the
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Speaker 5: United States of America and by extension, the globe, around
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Speaker 5: when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse
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Speaker 5: gas emissions. As an example, that value has not changed.
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Speaker 5: My value around what we need to do to secure
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Speaker 5: our border.
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Speaker 3: That value has not changed.
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Speaker 5: I spent two terms as the Attorney General of California
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Speaker 5: prosecuting transnational criminal organizations violations of American laws regarding the
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Speaker 5: passage illegal passage of guns, drugs, and human beings across
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Speaker 5: our border.
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Speaker 3: My values have not changed.
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Speaker 4: The policy issues energy is a big one. When you
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Speaker 4: were in Congress, you supported the Green New Deal, and
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Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen you said, quote, there is no question
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Speaker 4: I'm in favor of banning fracking. Cracking, as you know,
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Speaker 4: is a pretty big issue, particularly.
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Speaker 3: In your must win state of Pennsylvania. Do you still
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Speaker 3: want to banfracking.
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Speaker 5: No, And I made that clear on the debate station
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty that I would not banfracking. As vice president,
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Speaker 5: I did not banfracking. As president, I will not banfracking.
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Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, I believe at a town hall you
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Speaker 4: said you were asked, would you comm to implementing a
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Speaker 4: federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?
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Speaker 3: And you said there's no question in favor of banning fracking.
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Speaker 5: So yes.
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Speaker 3: So it changed in the in that campaign.
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Speaker 5: In twenty twenty, I made very clear where I stand.
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Speaker 5: We are in twenty twenty four and I've not changed
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Speaker 5: that position, nor will I going forward. I kept my
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Speaker 5: word and I will keep.
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Speaker 2: My word now.
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Speaker 1: Other than Bash providing potential explanations for what she has
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Speaker 1: flip flopped, and also, by the way, muting and diminishing
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Speaker 1: the magnitude of her flip flops. That's the other thing
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Speaker 1: that Bash did. And this is a this is a
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Speaker 1: classic trick by the media. You know, they'll there'll be
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Speaker 1: a bigger issue they do. They're doing this with Waltz
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Speaker 1: all the time, and they'll pick a small part of
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Speaker 1: a bigger issue, pretend that that's the core of it.
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Speaker 1: Or that's it, that's the whole thing, and then allow
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Speaker 1: the Democrat to come up with some explanation, and then
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Speaker 1: they'll move on while diminishing the very issue they're asking about.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what Bash did here with Harris.
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Speaker 1: But the second thing you'll notice is that Harris, for
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Speaker 1: some reason, focuses on fracking.
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Speaker 2: Now, my guess is that fracking is.
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Speaker 1: Clearly the biggest issue of all the flip flops because
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Speaker 1: of its potential importance in Pennsylvania. And as I've been saying,
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Speaker 1: and most people have been saying, Pennsylvania looks like it's
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Speaker 1: going to be the entire election currently we'll get to
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Speaker 1: later on. My current projection for what the election would
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Speaker 1: look like today is based purely on which direction Pennsylvania goes,
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Speaker 1: and that's a state where fracking, at least in theory,
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Speaker 1: still matters. And so she pretends, And when I was
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Speaker 1: watching this, I'm like, I don't remember her saying that
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Speaker 1: she has switched her position previously on fracking back.
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: I don't recall that at all. And it's obvious to
21:52
Speaker 1: me at least that Bash had the same thing going
21:55
Speaker 1: through her head that Bash is thinking that doesn't sound right,
21:59
Speaker 1: but I'm not one hundred percent sure of that.
22:01
Speaker 2: Did I possibly miss it? I don't want to see.
22:04
Speaker 1: This is where the difference between interviewing a Democrat and
22:07
Speaker 1: a Republican really makes a difference, right, because Bash would
22:12
Speaker 1: be much more likely to act on her instincts with JD.
22:17
Speaker 1: Vance because if she happens to be wrong, it can
22:20
Speaker 1: always be cleaned up later and she's not gonna get
22:22
Speaker 1: much blowback about it.
22:23
Speaker 2: But if she happens to be wrong, and Harris really
22:26
Speaker 2: did completely.
22:28
Speaker 1: Change her position in twenty twenty on fracking after very
22:32
Speaker 1: clearly early on in that campaign saying that she would
22:36
Speaker 1: ban fracking as president, then Bash is going to look
22:40
Speaker 1: really bad and that's not gonna.
22:42
Speaker 2: Be good for her at all.
22:43
Speaker 1: So she pumped the brakes and said she pushed back
22:48
Speaker 1: very slightly, but it was clear she was not sure.
22:52
Speaker 1: And I don't really blame her for not being sure,
22:54
Speaker 1: because frankly, here's I know she had a reason for
22:58
Speaker 1: not being sure because it did happened, and that was
23:02
Speaker 1: my instinct. I'm like, there's no way she did that.
23:05
Speaker 1: That wouldn't have made any sense. Why she didn't have
23:08
Speaker 1: enough time to do that because she was a candidate
23:13
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes before dropping out before even the
23:17
Speaker 1: Iowa caucuses. Well, as it turns out, the basis of
23:23
Speaker 1: that assertion, which is not true otherwise known as a lie,
23:29
Speaker 1: is that she in the twenty twenty vice presidential debates,
23:35
Speaker 1: when she was Joe Biden's vice presidential nominee, she claimed
23:41
Speaker 1: on Biden's behalf that he would not ban fracking, not
23:47
Speaker 1: what she would do if she was president. She was
23:50
Speaker 1: very specific about this, and kudos to CNN and the
23:54
Speaker 1: vast majority of the six million people who watched the
23:58
Speaker 1: Harris interview on CNN did not see what I'm about
24:01
Speaker 1: to play for you, But you know that's not really
24:04
Speaker 1: in CNN's control. But CNN's fact checker, Daniel Dale, who
24:08
Speaker 1: is notoriously liberally biased, he came on and he got
24:13
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this, and he did a report
24:17
Speaker 1: saying exactly what I have told you, that.
24:19
Speaker 2: This is not really true.
24:22
Speaker 1: That the best we could come up with on Harris
24:25
Speaker 1: having already changed her position on fracking before she's now
24:30
Speaker 1: suddenly the Democratic presidential nominee needing to win in Pennsylvania
24:34
Speaker 1: was actually her speaking on behalf of Joe Biden, not herself.
24:41
Speaker 2: And here's what that sounded like on CNN.
24:43
Speaker 3: So Daniel Dale is here, Daniel.
24:46
Speaker 5: She said there that she's made her position clear in
24:49
Speaker 5: twenty twenty.
24:50
Speaker 3: Tell us what the truth is of that.
24:53
Speaker 6: The fact check bottom line, Abby, is that she did
24:55
Speaker 6: not actually make clear at a twenty twenty debate that
24:57
Speaker 6: she had changed her previous support for a fracking band
25:01
Speaker 6: So let me take you through this kind of saga.
25:02
Speaker 6: So here's what she said at a CNN climate town
25:05
Speaker 6: hall in twenty nineteen on the subject of a fracking ban.
25:10
Speaker 5: Will you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking
25:13
Speaker 5: your first day in office? Adding the United States the
25:17
Speaker 5: list of countries who have banned this devastating practice. There's
25:20
Speaker 5: no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
25:22
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was quite clear.
25:26
Speaker 6: So she ended her a twenty twenty presidential run in
25:29
Speaker 6: December twenty nineteen. The only debate she participated in in
25:33
Speaker 6: twenty twenty was the general election debate with then Vice
25:36
Speaker 6: President Mike Pence, and I went over the transcript of
25:39
Speaker 6: that debate tonight. Nowhere in there does she make clear
25:42
Speaker 6: that she had abandoned her previous support for a fracking ban. Rather,
25:47
Speaker 6: she repeated that Joe Biden, the head of the Democratic
25:50
Speaker 6: take it at the time, would himself not banfracking. So
25:53
Speaker 6: listen to what she actually said in that twenty twenty debate.
25:57
Speaker 5: Joe Biden will not end fracking. He has been very
26:00
Speaker 5: clear about that. I will repeat, and the American people
26:03
Speaker 5: know that Joe Biden will not banfracking.
26:08
Speaker 6: So it makes perfect sense that at the time she
26:10
Speaker 6: was speaking on behalf of Biden. The president, not the
26:13
Speaker 6: vice president, sets administration policy. But maybe other people feel differently.
26:17
Speaker 6: I certainly did not hear anywhere in there Kamala Harris
26:20
Speaker 6: saying that she personally had abandoned her previously expressed twenty
26:24
Speaker 6: nineteen view. Rather again she was speaking for Joe Biden.
26:28
Speaker 3: All right, Daniel Dale, thank you very much.
26:31
Speaker 1: So CNN just proved that Kamala Harris lied.
26:36
Speaker 2: In that interview.
26:37
Speaker 1: And if we lived in a world where journalism was
26:40
Speaker 1: not dead, that, in my opinion, would be the headline
26:46
Speaker 1: the takeaway from the entire Harris interview with Dana Bash.
26:54
Speaker 1: Harris lies about her fracking flip flop, That would be
26:59
Speaker 1: a stating headline. If everybody in the state of Pennsylvania
27:05
Speaker 1: was forced to read it, or was even exposed to
27:10
Speaker 1: it in an indirect way, in any way whatsoever, that
27:15
Speaker 1: that's what should be the headline. Harris lies about fracking
27:20
Speaker 1: flip flop.
27:21
Speaker 2: But that's not going to happen. It didn't happen.
27:25
Speaker 1: That's not going to be the message or the takeaway
27:28
Speaker 1: or the headline from this interview. I doubt very seriously
27:32
Speaker 1: that any significant percentage of Pennsylvania voters are going to
27:36
Speaker 1: know unless the Trump campaign moves heaven and earth to
27:40
Speaker 1: change this, and I frankly think they should are going
27:43
Speaker 1: to know that Kamala Harris, in her first interview with
27:47
Speaker 1: a friendly interviewer.
27:49
Speaker 2: Lied, lied to you, lied to.
27:52
Speaker 1: You about her record on being in favor of banning fracking.
28:00
Speaker 7: In the.
28:03
Speaker 2: Pre truth being dead world. That's devastating, but truth doesn't
28:09
Speaker 2: matter anymore.
28:10
Speaker 1: The media is dead. Journalism is dead. The Trump campaign
28:14
Speaker 1: is terrible at this. People aren't paying attention. The voters
28:19
Speaker 1: are dumb, they're ignorant, they're not consuming news. And unfortunately,
28:24
Speaker 1: I have no belief that this is going to have
28:25
Speaker 1: any impact at all, but it should, especially since it's
28:29
Speaker 1: part of a pattern. We talked a lot about Tim
28:33
Speaker 1: Waltz's exaggerations and lies. Harris has a lot of them too,
28:38
Speaker 1: And Trump has been making a lot of and I
28:40
Speaker 1: understand why he's doing this and apparent lie that Kamala
28:44
Speaker 1: Harris is told with regard to her employment history as
28:49
Speaker 1: a very young person. She's now suddenly claiming that she
28:53
Speaker 1: once worked at McDonald's. Now Trump doesn't believe this story,
28:58
Speaker 1: and I'm with him. I don't believe this story either. Now,
29:02
Speaker 1: it's usually very hard to prove a negative, right how
29:06
Speaker 1: do you prove something didn't happen? But I think we're
29:10
Speaker 1: awfully close to that being the case here. The first
29:14
Speaker 1: sign that Kamala Harris never actually worked at McDonald's is
29:18
Speaker 1: that her own story has changed about this pretty significantly.
29:25
Speaker 1: As far as what she did, how long she worked there,
29:28
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Now, that doesn't prove it didn't happen,
29:32
Speaker 1: especially since it happened if it occurred so long ago.
29:35
Speaker 1: So that doesn't prove that it's a lie. But it's
29:40
Speaker 1: consistent with it being a lie. But there's more evidence
29:44
Speaker 1: than that. I'm a big believer, as you know, in
29:48
Speaker 1: the theory that if something is true, you have to
29:52
Speaker 1: think about things from the perspective of Okay, what would
29:55
Speaker 1: we likely see if this thing was true. Well, one
30:01
Speaker 1: of the things we would see is that if Harris
30:05
Speaker 1: had written a resume young in a younger period of
30:09
Speaker 1: her life, her working at McDonald's would be on that resume.
30:14
Speaker 2: Well, we have a resume that fits that description, and.
30:17
Speaker 1: There's no indication that McDonald's was on it, that Harris
30:21
Speaker 1: ever worked at McDonald's. Okay, well, maybe she left it
30:24
Speaker 1: off because it's McDonald's and it may not have necessarily
30:29
Speaker 1: been helpful, and so you know, there's a theoretical explanation
30:34
Speaker 1: for that. Okay, Well, then why is it also not
30:37
Speaker 1: in any of her biographies, including her own book, including
30:43
Speaker 1: a book she wrote that has a chapter all about
30:46
Speaker 1: the service industry.
30:49
Speaker 2: That to me is game set match.
30:52
Speaker 1: That's when you would reference having worked at McDonald's if
30:57
Speaker 1: it actually occurred, but in all likelihood did not occur.
31:02
Speaker 2: And the way that the Harris campaign.
31:04
Speaker 1: Is responding or not responding to this issue is also
31:08
Speaker 1: consistent because if it was true, they would have a
31:12
Speaker 1: great incentive, especially now that Trump has made a huge
31:14
Speaker 1: issue out of it, to drop the mic and go,
31:17
Speaker 1: here's proof that it actually occurred, and that has not happened,
31:22
Speaker 1: and I don't anticipate it happening because it probably would have.
31:24
Speaker 2: Already occurred at this point.
31:27
Speaker 1: So there's a very very good chance that Harris lied,
31:31
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, trying to connect to the real people
31:35
Speaker 1: of America, especially young people, you know, and you know,
31:39
Speaker 1: blue collar workers, what have you, that she once worked
31:43
Speaker 1: at McDonald's.
31:44
Speaker 2: That did not happen. It was a lie, and that
31:47
Speaker 2: auto matter.
31:48
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, when you're running against a pathological liar like Donald Trump,
31:53
Speaker 1: it's very very difficult to get these kinds of issues
31:56
Speaker 1: to stick. It's very difficult to get the flip flop
31:58
Speaker 1: issue to stick because Trump is flip flopping on issues
32:01
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm going to get to that momentarily.
32:04
Speaker 1: So you know, calling Kamala Harris a pathological flip flopper
32:08
Speaker 1: is not going to have the same effect because she's
32:11
Speaker 1: running against Donald Trump. But this is consistent with what
32:16
Speaker 1: we already know about Harris. She's been telling this story
32:19
Speaker 1: allegedly about her telling her mom that she wanted fweedom
32:25
Speaker 1: as a little girl, and it's clear that that story
32:28
Speaker 1: is either totally made up or plagiarized.
32:32
Speaker 2: For Martin Luther.
32:33
Speaker 1: King and you know, and of course the media will
32:37
Speaker 1: never tell you about this story ever. Again, it appears
32:40
Speaker 1: as if Harris has stopped telling it. Once there was
32:43
Speaker 1: some skepticism and pushback about it, but this seems to
32:48
Speaker 1: be consistent with her moo, much like it is with
32:52
Speaker 1: Tim Waltz. But unfortunately, none of us is likely to
32:56
Speaker 1: stick when you're running against Donald Trump. And as far
33:00
Speaker 1: as the flip flopping is concerned, Trump did a whopper
33:05
Speaker 1: late last week when it came to this abortion amendment
33:08
Speaker 1: on the Florida ballot this November. And this gets complicated,
33:14
Speaker 1: but the basics of this is that Trump was asked
33:17
Speaker 1: the question whether or not he would vote for this Basically,
33:24
Speaker 1: I'm my view, pro abortion, anti pro life amendment that's
33:30
Speaker 1: on the ballot in response to Governor DeSantis signing the
33:34
Speaker 1: six week abortion ban in Florida, and Trump's response, as
33:39
Speaker 1: it always is, is I don't agree with six weeks,
33:42
Speaker 1: which is the current law in Florida, and I understand
33:45
Speaker 1: where he's coming from on that.
33:47
Speaker 2: Politically.
33:48
Speaker 1: I have said this before, I'll say it again. Six
33:51
Speaker 1: weeks was a mistake. You can argue about it from
33:54
Speaker 1: a moral perspective. I'm just talking about politically, the politics
33:59
Speaker 1: of it are terrible. Although I will say this, it's
34:05
Speaker 1: hard for me to believe that anybody is really having
34:09
Speaker 1: that enforced it's six weeks, because there's no way to
34:12
Speaker 1: know whether or not a woman has really been pregnant
34:15
Speaker 1: for six weeks, So it's really not six weeks in
34:20
Speaker 1: the real world. But I get that philosophically and politically
34:25
Speaker 1: that's too soon, even though you could argue morally for
34:30
Speaker 1: obvious reasons that it's.
34:32
Speaker 2: That it may even be too late.
34:34
Speaker 1: But this is why this issue is so complicated and
34:38
Speaker 1: why it's so problematic for Republicans, especially in this election cycle.
34:41
Speaker 2: So Trump says I'm against the six.
34:44
Speaker 1: Weeks, but then he very very strongly it basically says,
34:49
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that he'll vote for the amendment, and
34:55
Speaker 1: this caused a shit storm within the pro life unity
35:01
Speaker 1: because if you read the amendment through the prism of
35:05
Speaker 1: reality and not the.
35:07
Speaker 2: Way it's being portrayed reality.
35:11
Speaker 1: See, the Democrats are so good at this, and they're
35:13
Speaker 1: so good of this because the media is on their side,
35:16
Speaker 1: but they will always pretend, well, no, this is a
35:21
Speaker 1: harmless amendment. All we're doing is removing the six week ban.
35:25
Speaker 1: And so if you're against the six week ban, you
35:27
Speaker 1: ought to be four our amendment, and Trump fell into
35:32
Speaker 1: that trap. Frankly, I think this entire amendment was a
35:36
Speaker 1: trap for Republicans in general and Trump in particular, and frankly,
35:40
Speaker 1: it worked out better than they ever could have possibly imagined.
35:44
Speaker 2: And my theory is just a theory on this.
35:47
Speaker 1: Is that it occurred because Trump didn't read the fucking amendment.
35:52
Speaker 1: That's the most obvious logical Akham's razor explanation for this,
35:57
Speaker 1: because if you read the amendment and you interpret it
36:01
Speaker 1: through the prism of reality in the real world, it
36:04
Speaker 1: basically makes all abortions legal. You go from six weeks
36:09
Speaker 1: to nine months. Now, the pro abortion crowd will tell
36:13
Speaker 1: you that's not true.
36:14
Speaker 2: That's not what it says.
36:16
Speaker 1: If you interpret it through the prism of reality, which
36:19
Speaker 1: is all you basically got to do is find a
36:22
Speaker 1: liberal doctor and you can have an abortion whenever you want.
36:25
Speaker 1: That's the real world of this amendment. If it passes,
36:30
Speaker 1: and the pro life crowd knows this and Trump did not, apparently,
36:36
Speaker 1: that's the best way to interpret what occurred. And so
36:40
Speaker 1: he essentially says he's voting for the amendment the campaign
36:43
Speaker 1: immediately puts out a statement saying that's not really true.
36:47
Speaker 1: And then the next day, Trump does another interview reiterating
36:51
Speaker 1: his distaste for the six week band but saying he
36:54
Speaker 1: will vote against in Florida as a Florida resident who's
36:59
Speaker 1: currently still to vote, he will vote against the amendment
37:04
Speaker 1: in Florida. And so that's that's a massive flipflop. And
37:09
Speaker 1: that was a debacle because you know, it got the
37:12
Speaker 1: pro life crowd very agitated, and understandably so. And and frankly,
37:18
Speaker 1: the reason I think this happened, it's two two reasons basically.
37:21
Speaker 2: One, well, three Trump's an idiot.
37:23
Speaker 1: Two he doesn't read things, doesn't listen to his advisors,
37:28
Speaker 1: And three he's not really pro life. Everyone has always
37:34
Speaker 1: known this. He told Tim Russer on Meet the Press.
37:37
Speaker 1: It was many years ago, but he was obviously as
37:40
Speaker 1: a public figure.
37:41
Speaker 2: He's very pro choice.
37:45
Speaker 1: He's lived the life of a guy who's clearly very
37:48
Speaker 1: pro choice. He's clearly not religious. So how anyone would
37:53
Speaker 1: believe that Donald Trump is in his heart of hearts
37:57
Speaker 1: pro life is beyond me. So he doesn't really believe.
38:01
Speaker 2: In the issue.
38:02
Speaker 1: He's just trying to figure out a way to navigate
38:05
Speaker 1: through this without it blowing up in his face politically,
38:08
Speaker 1: and unfortunately he wasn't able to do that here. Now
38:11
Speaker 1: what's the long term damage? I don't know. You know,
38:15
Speaker 1: the Harris campaign, because they have the media on their side,
38:18
Speaker 1: has been trying to stop me.
38:20
Speaker 2: If you heard this before, have it both ways.
38:23
Speaker 1: See now they're saying that Trump is in favor of
38:26
Speaker 1: the six week abortion ban in Florida.
38:29
Speaker 2: That's not what he has said.
38:30
Speaker 1: He has said that continually that he's against the six
38:35
Speaker 1: week ban. But in their minds, the way they're portraying
38:39
Speaker 1: this and the media is letting them get away with this,
38:41
Speaker 1: it's that it's either or that that somehow is what
38:44
Speaker 1: that amendment is about. That's not what that amendment is about.
38:48
Speaker 1: That amendment is not it's either six weeks or it's
38:52
Speaker 1: you know, ten weeks.
38:54
Speaker 2: That's not what it is.
38:56
Speaker 1: It's either six weeks or it could be nine months
39:00
Speaker 1: in many circumstances.
39:01
Speaker 2: But this is the evil genius of.
39:04
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party when they have the news media on
39:07
Speaker 1: their side and they know they can get away with
39:09
Speaker 1: this stuff. And then related to all this, Trump comes
39:14
Speaker 1: out in favor of an IVF funding mandate. He comes
39:20
Speaker 1: out and says he wants to mandate the funding of.
39:26
Speaker 8: IVF treatments apparently universally for Americans who are having trouble
39:33
Speaker 8: having children in vitro fertilization.
39:40
Speaker 2: What.
39:41
Speaker 1: First of all it philosophically that's not remotely conservative or Republican.
39:47
Speaker 2: Second of all, economically, that's insanity. Insanity. Do you have
39:56
Speaker 2: any understanding Does Trump have an understanding of how expensive
40:00
Speaker 2: of IVF treatments are?
40:03
Speaker 4: You know?
40:05
Speaker 2: Now part of this.
40:07
Speaker 1: Philosophically, this is about we need more children, and he's
40:11
Speaker 1: trying to combat the Democrats on this, frankly sounding more
40:15
Speaker 1: and more like a Democrat. But you know, one of
40:18
Speaker 1: the benefits, I guess you would say it inadvertently of
40:22
Speaker 1: IVF being so expensive is that it separates the weed
40:26
Speaker 1: from the chaft when it comes to who's going to
40:29
Speaker 1: have children. To go through IVF, you won, first of all,
40:34
Speaker 1: have to really really want children, and currently you have
40:39
Speaker 1: to really be able to afford children. Now that doesn't
40:43
Speaker 1: mean that these are inherently perfect parents.
40:46
Speaker 2: There are no perfect parents. But generally, if.
40:49
Speaker 1: You have parents who are willing and able to go
40:52
Speaker 1: through IVF, they're inherently way ahead of the average parent
40:57
Speaker 1: simply from the standpoint of wanting to have kids.
41:01
Speaker 2: Which is really important.
41:03
Speaker 1: And two being able to have the money to afford
41:06
Speaker 1: having kids, which is really important.
41:08
Speaker 2: So you're already ahead of the game there.
41:10
Speaker 1: Trump wants to eliminate that in a way that would
41:13
Speaker 1: be fiscally insane, way beyond irresponsible. I mean, I have
41:19
Speaker 1: my own personal experience in this. We obviously have two
41:23
Speaker 1: young daughters. Our first daughter, Grace, was conceived when my
41:28
Speaker 1: wife was still well within the reproduction window. And then,
41:33
Speaker 1: you know, a few years past, my wife wants to
41:36
Speaker 1: have a second child, and I'm like, okay, that's really
41:41
Speaker 1: what you want.
41:41
Speaker 2: Let's let's give it a try.
41:43
Speaker 1: But she was very concerned because she was quickly seeing
41:48
Speaker 1: that reproductive window close, and so she went.
41:52
Speaker 2: To THES and they confirmed.
41:55
Speaker 1: That she probably wasn't going to be able to get
41:57
Speaker 1: pregnant naturally, and so we were preparing to go through IVF,
42:02
Speaker 1: which was going to be insanely expensive and by the way,
42:06
Speaker 1: in no way, shape or form, you know, a one
42:11
Speaker 1: hundred percent shot. You know, there's a very high likelihood
42:15
Speaker 1: that you can go through IVF and not get pregnant,
42:18
Speaker 1: depending on obviously all the circumstances. So this is a
42:22
Speaker 1: very expensive, very intrusive process that does not have certitude
42:29
Speaker 1: of success at all at the end of this. And
42:34
Speaker 1: so we figured out a way to get the money
42:36
Speaker 1: to do this, and we were ready to go. We
42:39
Speaker 1: had literally gone through almost all the preliminary processes to
42:47
Speaker 1: go through IVF to try to have a second child,
42:50
Speaker 1: and there was a problem. There was a problem because
42:55
Speaker 1: my wife's hormones weren't proper for the process to begin.
43:00
Speaker 1: And I told my wife that I thought she was
43:04
Speaker 1: pregnant naturally, which of course she didn't believe me. And
43:09
Speaker 1: it turned out that that was confirmed and we didn't
43:14
Speaker 1: have to go through IVF, which saved us a heck
43:16
Speaker 1: of a lot of money, we later learned, or I
43:20
Speaker 1: learned later learned, And my wife has always regretted telling
43:22
Speaker 1: me this that the reason why my wife got pregnant
43:26
Speaker 1: with basically her last good egg was because I have
43:29
Speaker 1: an extremely high sperm count. She's very much regretted ever
43:34
Speaker 1: telling me that, because I've used it against her at
43:37
Speaker 1: every opportunity I possibly can, because it's the one thing
43:41
Speaker 1: I guess I've actually brought to the table when it
43:45
Speaker 1: comes to this marriage and this family.
43:47
Speaker 2: I look at our two kids.
43:48
Speaker 1: You know, my wife has always wanted two beautiful young daughters,
43:52
Speaker 1: and I gave her two beautiful young daughters.
43:55
Speaker 2: Through my magic sperm.
43:57
Speaker 1: In my mind, these are like, you know, super Bowl trophies, right,
44:01
Speaker 1: if I'm thinking about this from a man's perspective, you know,
44:03
Speaker 1: Eli Manning was a good quarterback, but not an amazing quarterback.
44:08
Speaker 1: But he won two super Bowls. And they didn't just
44:10
Speaker 1: win two super Bowls. He beat Tom Brady in very
44:14
Speaker 1: dramatic fashion. So you know, he's a man made. He's
44:16
Speaker 1: a you know, made man for life, Eli Manning. Because
44:20
Speaker 1: of those two super Bowls, I've always thought, Okay, well
44:22
Speaker 1: I got two super Bowls, neanxt to my sperm cat,
44:26
Speaker 1: you gotta at least give me credit for the second one,
44:28
Speaker 1: because I saved this from having to go through IVF,
44:30
Speaker 1: which was in no way, shape or form you know,
44:34
Speaker 1: gonna necessarily result in success. Well, this may shock you,
44:39
Speaker 1: but this has not been nearly as effective on my
44:42
Speaker 1: behalf as I thought it might be.
44:44
Speaker 2: It's weird how that turns out.
44:47
Speaker 1: That I don't really get credit for the two super
44:49
Speaker 1: Bowl trophies, regardless of whether or not, my sperm count
44:53
Speaker 1: responsible or not. Those seem to be forgotten, and now
44:56
Speaker 1: I just get blamed for everything that could.
44:58
Speaker 2: Possibly go wrong. But I digress. The point of this story.
45:01
Speaker 1: Other than the humorous element of our IVS IVF experience
45:06
Speaker 1: in my spermwn, one of the few things that I
45:09
Speaker 1: guess kept my wife married to me is that this
45:13
Speaker 1: is a very very expensive and intrusive process, and the
45:19
Speaker 1: idea of a Republican residential candidate mandating this, I mean,
45:25
Speaker 1: my god, Obamacare, which Trump has used to be very
45:29
Speaker 1: much against, has put the medical system on the precipice
45:34
Speaker 1: of disaster. Stuff like this is going to throw it
45:38
Speaker 1: off the ledge. And now I don't believe he's really
45:41
Speaker 1: telling the truth there. I think he's trying to score
45:45
Speaker 1: political points, you know, because Democrats have been destroying him
45:50
Speaker 1: on the entire reproductive issue, and that this IVF thing,
45:54
Speaker 1: partially because of Tim Waltz, has become part of this.
46:00
Speaker 1: And we've talked before about how Tim Waltz basically lied.
46:05
Speaker 1: He lied about his IVF experience. He never his family
46:11
Speaker 1: never used and his wife.
46:12
Speaker 2: Never used in vitro fertilization.
46:15
Speaker 1: To conceive children, and he's gotten away with this lie,
46:21
Speaker 1: so much so that the Minneapolis Star Tribune, the Minneapolis
46:27
Speaker 1: Star Tribune, a legitimate newspaper, and obviously, you know, Waltz's
46:32
Speaker 1: home state of Minnesota, has removed Waltz's IVF lie from
46:39
Speaker 1: the Internet version of their headline on this story, with
46:44
Speaker 1: as of last check, no editor's note indicating that they
46:49
Speaker 1: had changed the headline. So, my god, it must be
46:53
Speaker 1: nice to be a Democrat where you can lie about
46:56
Speaker 1: something and the news media will just go back in time.
47:00
Speaker 1: I'm and fix it for you so that it's scrubbed
47:04
Speaker 1: from history.
47:04
Speaker 2: It's down the memory hole.
47:06
Speaker 1: It's nineteen eighty four, it's George orwell, we're just going
47:10
Speaker 1: to pretend that he never lied about this. And for
47:13
Speaker 1: those who think, well, John, couldn't he have just misunderstood
47:16
Speaker 1: or it's an innocent mistake. He was just calling it IVF,
47:21
Speaker 1: and you know he didn't understand, no, because the reason
47:25
Speaker 1: why he did this was because IVF has become attached
47:29
Speaker 1: to reproductive rights and embryos and to abortion, and Democrats
47:34
Speaker 1: think that this is a very good issue for them,
47:37
Speaker 1: which might be part of why Trump is now absurdly
47:41
Speaker 1: calling for mandates for IVF treatment which would be again
47:47
Speaker 1: one last time, economically totally insane.
47:51
Speaker 2: Now, with regard to Waltz and his pension for lying and.
47:55
Speaker 1: Greatly exaggerating, maybe the best question the Dana Bash asked
48:01
Speaker 1: of either Harris or Waltz in the CNN interview was
48:05
Speaker 1: to Waltz about this issue of him lying. I thought
48:11
Speaker 1: this was a very reasonable question, and she put it forward.
48:15
Speaker 1: I thought in a respectful but I.
48:19
Speaker 2: Thought legitimate way. This was good. But Walts's answer and
48:26
Speaker 2: what he was allowed.
48:26
Speaker 1: To get away with was not good because they were
48:29
Speaker 1: specifically discussing or Waltz was referencing this issue of whether
48:34
Speaker 1: or not he ever actually was in combat, he ever
48:40
Speaker 1: participated in war, which he did not, and Walts has
48:45
Speaker 1: the audacity to try to claim that this misunderstanding was
48:50
Speaker 1: because he's not great at grammar. Not great at grammar.
48:56
Speaker 1: I'm not making it up. And here's what that sounded like.
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Speaker 4: You said that you carried weapons in war, but you
49:02
Speaker 4: have never deployed actually in a war zone. A campaign
49:06
Speaker 4: official said that you misspoke, did you?
49:09
Speaker 1: Well?
49:10
Speaker 7: First of all, I'm incredibly proud I've done twenty four
49:12
Speaker 7: years of wearing the uniform of this country. Equally proud
49:15
Speaker 7: of my service in a public school classroom, whether it's
49:18
Speaker 7: Congress or the governor. My record speaks for itself. But
49:22
Speaker 7: I think people are coming to it to know me.
49:24
Speaker 7: I speak like they do. I speak candidly, I wear
49:27
Speaker 7: my emotions on my sleeves, and I speak especially passionately
49:31
Speaker 7: about our children being shot in schools and around guns.
49:35
Speaker 7: So I think people know me, they know who I am,
49:37
Speaker 7: they know where my heart is. And again, my record
49:41
Speaker 7: has been out there for over forty years to speak
49:43
Speaker 7: for itself.
49:44
Speaker 4: And the idea that you said that you were in war,
49:48
Speaker 4: did you miss speak as the campaign has said.
49:50
Speaker 7: Yeah, I said we were talking about in this case,
49:52
Speaker 7: this was after school shooting, the ideas of carrying these
49:55
Speaker 7: weapons of war, and my wife, the English tone, my
49:58
Speaker 7: grammar's not always correct. But again, if it's not this,
50:01
Speaker 7: it's an attack on my children for showing love for me,
50:03
Speaker 7: or it's an attack on my dog, I'm not going
50:05
Speaker 7: to do that. And the one thing I'll never do
50:07
Speaker 7: is I'll never demet another member's service in any way.
50:10
Speaker 7: I never have and I never will.
50:13
Speaker 2: You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be
50:16
Speaker 2: kidding me.
50:17
Speaker 1: Grammar and no follow up from Bash, this was not
50:22
Speaker 1: a grammar error. This was also not a one shot deal.
50:27
Speaker 1: Waltz said this in various ways on numerous occasions, with
50:33
Speaker 1: no ambiguity.
50:34
Speaker 2: Now again, I don't think this is the biggest.
50:37
Speaker 1: Issue, especially when Trump basically dodged the Vietnam Draft because
50:42
Speaker 1: of bone spurs, So this doesn't work when you're running
50:46
Speaker 1: against Donald Trump.
50:48
Speaker 2: I think this is kind of.
50:49
Speaker 1: A fruitless attack on Waltz unless you can connect it
50:53
Speaker 1: to this.
50:53
Speaker 2: Whole idea that he's a pathological liar.
50:56
Speaker 1: The lying part of this matters, frankly, the explanation it
51:00
Speaker 1: is almost as bad as the original lie because he's
51:03
Speaker 1: lying about the lie. It was not a grammar mistake,
51:08
Speaker 1: and Vash said apparently nothing, although we're not one hundred
51:11
Speaker 1: percent sure because we don't have a transcript of the
51:14
Speaker 1: full interview.
51:15
Speaker 2: There have been some conspiracy theories out.
51:18
Speaker 1: There, which, unfortunately, a lot of these conspiracy theories, when
51:21
Speaker 1: it comes to the modern media, end up being at
51:23
Speaker 1: least somewhat true that there were huge portions of this
51:27
Speaker 1: interview left on the cunning room floor. I've not been
51:30
Speaker 1: one hundred percent convinced of that yet, but I would
51:33
Speaker 1: like to see a full transcript of that interview. But
51:37
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter at this point. It was a bad
51:40
Speaker 1: interview that in a rational world should make Dana Bash
51:45
Speaker 1: and CNN embarrassed, But in world the world in which
51:49
Speaker 1: we live, they're gonna look at this as a success.
51:52
Speaker 2: It got a good rating.
51:55
Speaker 1: The media that CNN seems to care about didn't quit
52:00
Speaker 1: it too severely. It didn't derail the Harris campaign. I mean,
52:06
Speaker 1: it didn't get huge praise. I mean even the commentators
52:10
Speaker 1: on CNN were saying this wasn't all that great for
52:12
Speaker 1: Harris for reasons like I've already mentioned with regard to
52:15
Speaker 1: the optics and some of her answers not being that great.
52:19
Speaker 1: But from Harris's perspective, I don't think there was anything
52:22
Speaker 1: disastrous here, and that's what matters politically.
52:26
Speaker 2: I think she was able to check the box. She
52:29
Speaker 2: got through this just.
52:30
Speaker 1: As I predicted she would, because it really wasn't much
52:33
Speaker 1: of a hurdle. And I'm not sure she's gonna be
52:36
Speaker 1: compelled to do another one. She has it in her
52:39
Speaker 1: back pocket whenever.
52:41
Speaker 2: She needs to, because she still hasn't done a one
52:44
Speaker 2: on one interview.
52:46
Speaker 1: After being handed the Democratic nomination and neither as Waltz.
52:52
Speaker 1: So that's the way the news media works. They're gonna,
52:55
Speaker 1: if they need to, they'll each do their own individual
52:59
Speaker 1: interviews with a sympathetic mainstream news media interviewer, and it'll
53:06
Speaker 1: get big publicity because they'll be able to claim this
53:08
Speaker 1: is exclusive, this is the first, first one on one,
53:12
Speaker 1: and they'll be able to, you know, get two bites
53:14
Speaker 1: of the apple. So strategically, this makes sense from the
53:18
Speaker 1: Harris perspective, and unfortunately, I think it was more effective
53:24
Speaker 1: than a lot of Trump fans were hoping or expecting.
53:27
Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting.
53:28
Speaker 1: Close to the point where, you know, Trump fans are
53:32
Speaker 1: they keep hoping and hoping that Okay, this time, this hurdle.
53:35
Speaker 2: Is going to be the one where she falls flat
53:37
Speaker 2: on her face.
53:38
Speaker 1: Right, you know, wait, wait until she has her convention speech.
53:42
Speaker 2: It's going to be terrible.
53:43
Speaker 1: Well, actually it wasn't terrible, not in the minds of
53:46
Speaker 1: the average voter.
53:47
Speaker 2: Wait till she actually gets interviewed.
53:49
Speaker 1: Well, I said, what do you mean she's going to
53:51
Speaker 1: be doing this with a sympathetic interview where they're not
53:53
Speaker 1: going to do the Katie Kirk Sarah.
53:55
Speaker 2: Palin job on her.
53:56
Speaker 1: They're not going to, you know, treat her like they
53:59
Speaker 1: treat jd Vance or Donald Trump, like Caitlyn Collins did
54:04
Speaker 1: on CNN as a comparison point earlier this year in
54:07
Speaker 1: New Hampshire. That's not gonna happen or whatever it was
54:10
Speaker 1: late last year, that's not gonna happen.
54:13
Speaker 2: And of course it didn't happen.
54:15
Speaker 1: So, you know, she got through the convention speech, she
54:18
Speaker 1: got through the interview.
54:20
Speaker 2: Now the next thing is the debate.
54:22
Speaker 1: Oh wait till she has to face Donald Trump in
54:25
Speaker 1: the debate. Well, Trump's terrible at these debates. The only
54:29
Speaker 1: one he ever won was because Joe Biden shit himself,
54:32
Speaker 1: almost literally on live television. She's gonna be compared to
54:36
Speaker 1: Biden's performance. I don't think she's gonna be nearly as
54:40
Speaker 1: bad as Trump fans are hoping or expecting.
54:43
Speaker 2: And I think she's gonna get through.
54:46
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be spectacular, but she's gonna get through it,
54:48
Speaker 1: just like she did the convention speech, just like she
54:51
Speaker 1: did the Bash interview. And then what what's it going
54:54
Speaker 1: to be next after that? When when's the next time
54:56
Speaker 1: she's gonna fall in her face and be exposed for
54:59
Speaker 1: who she really is. I keep waiting, and it's before
55:04
Speaker 1: you know it, it's going to be October and voting
55:07
Speaker 1: is going to start, and then they put her in hiding,
55:09
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just don't when's it going to happen.
55:13
Speaker 2: I'm hoping for it. I'm hoping for it.
55:16
Speaker 1: I'm looking for it, but it hasn't happened yet, and
55:18
Speaker 1: I don't see it happening imminently.
55:21
Speaker 2: Now.
55:22
Speaker 1: One of the more amazing things that has happened this
55:25
Speaker 1: year and over the last year or so in the
55:28
Speaker 1: realm of media is that somehow Bill Maher has become
55:31
Speaker 1: the voice of reason and the voice of journalism, which
55:36
Speaker 1: is just amazing. I mean, Bill Maher, a comedian, a liberal,
55:40
Speaker 1: a guy who seemingly is the highest priority. Through most
55:45
Speaker 1: of his life has been getting laid by playboy bunnies.
55:48
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, at an advanced age, is
55:53
Speaker 1: speaking up for rationality, common sense. You know, he's admitted
55:58
Speaker 1: that he's going to vote for Harris, but he also
56:01
Speaker 1: still has huge problems with how crazy liberals have gotten,
56:04
Speaker 1: and he's been very critical, understandably so, of the news media. Well,
56:09
Speaker 1: he did an interview with Nancy Pelosi and this was
56:14
Speaker 1: interesting on a couple of different fronts. He hits her
56:17
Speaker 1: with the issue of what's happening or seemingly happening in
56:21
Speaker 1: California with regard to the government potentially providing illegal immigrants
56:26
Speaker 1: with interest free, risk free loans for them to buy
56:32
Speaker 1: houses that actual US citizens would not be eligible for. Now,
56:39
Speaker 1: he asked this question very much from the perspective of
56:42
Speaker 1: this is crazy, and it's not obvious that Pelosi even
56:48
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. In fact, I think this
56:51
Speaker 1: is very much like Trump and the Florida Amendment. I
56:55
Speaker 1: don't think she knew exactly what the hell Mara was
56:59
Speaker 1: talking about, which was is incredibly indicative of one how
57:03
Speaker 1: old Pelosi is, how out of touch she.
57:05
Speaker 2: Is, and a whole bunch of other things.
57:08
Speaker 1: But the reality here is that Pelosi decides to go
57:12
Speaker 1: along with this. And I have been saying constantly that
57:17
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I said this in twenty twenty. I'll say
57:19
Speaker 1: it again now Donald Trump should be running against the
57:21
Speaker 1: state of California more so than even Kamala Harris. And
57:26
Speaker 1: this clip here is a gift to that entire strategy.
57:32
Speaker 1: Whether it'll be picked up on I have no confidence.
57:35
Speaker 2: That it will be.
57:37
Speaker 1: But here Bill Maher is inadvertently creating a gift for
57:41
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign if they want to connect the craziness
57:44
Speaker 1: in California to the entire Kamala Harris campaign and how
57:50
Speaker 1: out of touch.
57:51
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi is and how pro illegal.
57:54
Speaker 1: Immigrant the people who handed Kamala Harris the nomination.
57:59
Speaker 2: Really, again, this is important.
58:01
Speaker 1: Pelosi was the one who led the coup against Joe Biden,
58:06
Speaker 1: former Speaker of the House from San Francisco, California, through
58:10
Speaker 1: and through, and here she is basically making it as
58:16
Speaker 1: clear as day that the Democratic Party is very pro
58:21
Speaker 1: illegal immigrant, even and I'm going to get to this
58:24
Speaker 1: after the clip, even invoking Ronald Reagan as somehow being
58:30
Speaker 1: on her side when it comes to this issue. And
58:33
Speaker 1: here's what that in sanity sounded like on HBO.
58:36
Speaker 9: The California lawmakers just passed the law. It hasn't been
58:40
Speaker 9: signed by Governor Newsom, but giving government assistance to undocumented
58:47
Speaker 9: immigrants to buy houses. That's kind of a different place
58:51
Speaker 9: than the Democratic Party used to be on immigration. As
58:54
Speaker 9: adn Like, I say, that's what the country's going to do,
58:57
Speaker 9: but that's certainly where California is.
58:59
Speaker 10: Well, let me just say immigration had always been a
59:02
Speaker 10: bipartisan issue. I refer you to that not free houses.
59:07
Speaker 10: Well that's not free housing. It's the American dream being
59:11
Speaker 10: available to more people. But understand this about immigration. The
59:15
Speaker 10: best speech on immigration was by President Ronald Reagan. This
59:21
Speaker 10: is the last speech I will make as President of
59:23
Speaker 10: the United States. I want to communicate a message to
59:27
Speaker 10: the country I love. And he talked about the Statue
59:31
Speaker 10: of Liberty and the beacon of hope it is to
59:34
Speaker 10: the world, and what America was pre eminent in the
59:37
Speaker 10: world because our door was always open and we will
59:40
Speaker 10: cease to be pre eminent when we shut the door.
59:44
Speaker 10: Now that's I don't do justice to the great communicator.
59:47
Speaker 10: Google it. It's a fabulous speech. And George Herbert walker
59:50
Speaker 10: Bush continued in that respect for the diversity of America
59:54
Speaker 10: and the rest. California is always in the lead. Maybe
59:59
Speaker 10: others will follow that lead, but that's up to those states.
1:00:03
Speaker 10: But we're very blessed here with beautiful diversity.
1:00:07
Speaker 9: Vote for this law. So you'd vote for this law.
1:00:10
Speaker 10: Well, I don't. I'm not familiar with exactly what it is,
1:00:13
Speaker 10: but making the American dream of home ownership available to
1:00:19
Speaker 10: all people is something we have to do.
1:00:20
Speaker 2: For people. For you, now, this.
1:00:24
Speaker 9: Is undocumented. This is for the undocumented.
1:00:28
Speaker 10: Well, what I would like to do is move them
1:00:30
Speaker 10: to document. It is that that you can them to documented.
1:00:36
Speaker 10: One of the best things that we can do for
1:00:39
Speaker 10: our economy is to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
1:00:45
Speaker 2: Now that's a gift.
1:00:48
Speaker 1: That's a gift to the Trump campaign vis A Vie,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: Bill Maher having Nancy Pelosi say the quiet part out loud.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: It's incredibly easy to connect Nancy Pelosi to Kamala Harris.
1:01:02
Speaker 1: It's easy to connect Gavin Newsom, but it's even easier.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: To connect Nancy Pelosi.
1:01:08
Speaker 1: And this is an issue that really should scare the
1:01:11
Speaker 1: crap out of every swing state voter because this is
1:01:16
Speaker 1: the world that the liberal elites want to live in.
1:01:19
Speaker 2: This is the country they want for all of us.
1:01:23
Speaker 1: I always say this, the rest of the country is
1:01:25
Speaker 1: going to become California unless you hold the fucking line,
1:01:30
Speaker 1: and this is further proof of that. Now, as far
1:01:32
Speaker 1: as the Reagan thing, this really bugs me because Democrats
1:01:39
Speaker 1: are now suddenly embracing Ronald Reagan, giving reverence to Ronald Reagan.
1:01:44
Speaker 1: Because yes, Ronald Reagan was in favor of some form
1:01:50
Speaker 1: of amnesty for a small number of illegal immigrants back
1:01:53
Speaker 1: in then nineteen eighties. This is apples and orange. Yes,
1:02:01
Speaker 1: just because you know, in Nancy Pelosi's mind, because he's
1:02:04
Speaker 1: so old, this was not that long ago. This was
1:02:08
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Now we were a different country then.
1:02:11
Speaker 2: First there weren't nearly the.
1:02:14
Speaker 1: Numbers, not even close to the numbers of illegal immigrants
1:02:19
Speaker 1: that were already in the country. So I mean, it's
1:02:24
Speaker 1: it's worse than apples and oranges. I mean, it's it's
1:02:31
Speaker 1: you know, oranges and orangutangs. I mean, that's the difference
1:02:36
Speaker 1: here with regard to purely the numbers. But then there's
1:02:39
Speaker 1: something else that has changed. We now live in a
1:02:43
Speaker 1: total welfare state. We are effectively, for poor people, a
1:02:49
Speaker 1: socialist country. The magnet has proven by the Pelosi clip itself,
1:02:55
Speaker 1: this is a magnet. My god, you're gonna offer free
1:02:58
Speaker 1: down payments for how houses loans that illegal immigrants could
1:03:03
Speaker 1: easily run out on because there's no way to track
1:03:06
Speaker 1: them down. They don't have social security numbers. So this
1:03:10
Speaker 1: is a huge magnet. So that didn't exist as much,
1:03:16
Speaker 1: nearly as much in the nineteen eighties.
1:03:19
Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighties.
1:03:20
Speaker 1: Living here as an illegal immigrant was no easy bargain.
1:03:25
Speaker 1: You had to live underground. You were always afraid of
1:03:29
Speaker 1: being deported. There was not this welfare state magnet. We
1:03:35
Speaker 1: weren't even thinking about providing interest free loads for people
1:03:39
Speaker 1: to buy houses if they were illegal immigrants. So this
1:03:45
Speaker 1: is a completely different world now, And to pretend that
1:03:49
Speaker 1: because Reagan was somewhat in favor of this issue forty
1:03:55
Speaker 1: years ago is utter insanity and and it just it
1:04:01
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