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Credlin | 14 April · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland Live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, great to have your company as we're kicking
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Speaker 2: off another week in federal campaign. Let's get into it tonight,
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Speaker 2: all right, a big weekend. On the weekend we saw,
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Speaker 2: of course that double header of campaign launches, plenty of
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Speaker 2: policy giveaways. Will unpack that in a moment. But that
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Speaker 2: also we'll get into that awkward moment between Anthony Albernezi
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Speaker 2: and Tanya plever Set which was telling for such a
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Speaker 2: carefully managed event. More on that at a moment. Last,
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Speaker 2: will take a look at the claims by the Teals.
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Speaker 2: Sort of cash for comment, isn't it. I mean it's
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Speaker 2: hardly campaigning with integrity. The extraordinary intervention two to save
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Speaker 2: Britain's last major steel plant from being shut down by
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Speaker 2: its Chinese owner.
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Speaker 3: This is a warning of just.
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Speaker 2: How entrans China's become in the West and just how
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Speaker 2: at risk we are here as well as in Britain
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Speaker 2: and elsewhere. Last, the work curriculum that's killing the minds
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Speaker 2: of our children. Now, where's the focus on this in
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Speaker 2: the camp We've done some investigative work will show the
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Speaker 2: outcomes tonight. It is a bloated mess and no wonder
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Speaker 2: our children are falling behind and another gold blow to
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Speaker 2: the coalition in the latest News poll. However, Peter Darton
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Speaker 2: has rammed up his attacks when it comes to the
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Speaker 2: Greens and Labor and a hung parliament.
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Speaker 4: The Prime ministers still continuing with the charade that he
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Speaker 4: could form a majority government. I think people are setting
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Speaker 4: through that pretty quickly.
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Speaker 2: We'll go first, though, to those two campaign launchers yesterday.
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Speaker 2: While they were not just on opposite sides of the country,
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Speaker 2: they almost came from two different universes. In Labour's case,
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Speaker 2: an almost cocky prime minister claimed that the government had
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Speaker 2: rescued the economy and created a strong and prosperous Australia,
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Speaker 2: characterized but an almost sacred devotion to Labour's use of
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Speaker 2: Medicare as a stunt.
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Speaker 5: Labor is a party of Medicare, created it and we
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Speaker 5: will strengthen it.
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Speaker 2: And actually it would all be put at risk by
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Speaker 2: Peter Dudden, who would cut everything, said the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: except tax.
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Speaker 5: They had not learned and Peter Dutton will never change.
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Speaker 5: This is not a time to risk Australia's future by
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Speaker 5: going back to the failures of the past.
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Speaker 2: At the coalition's launch, the Opposition leader declared that living
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Speaker 2: standards had never fallen so far, so fast, and pledged
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Speaker 2: to deliver more affordable energy and more affordable housing. Last
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Speaker 2: greater personal and national security. Australia, he said, can't afford
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Speaker 2: another three years of labor.
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Speaker 4: Today I announced a significant tax cut to help Australians.
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Speaker 4: We're going to help with Labour's cost a living crisis.
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Speaker 4: I will be a prime Minister who restores the dream
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Speaker 4: of home ownership. We must grow our economy so that
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Speaker 4: we're more protected against external shocks. We must shore up
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Speaker 4: our energy security so that we have an abundance of
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Speaker 4: affordable and reliable power that we need for our future.
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Speaker 2: In this campaign, as you know, both sides are pledging
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Speaker 2: cost of living relief. Labor via it's seventy cents a
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Speaker 2: day tax cut in fifteen months time, the Coalition via
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Speaker 2: it's fourteen dollars a cut in fuel tax every time
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Speaker 2: you fill up the tank, and yesterday both campaigns almost
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Speaker 2: echoed each other, Labor with an automatic annual one thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars tax deduction for work expenses, no paperwork required, and
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Speaker 2: the Coalition with a twelve one hundred dollar tax offset
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Speaker 2: for everyone earning under one hundred and forty four thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars a year on both sides too, more on housing,
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Speaker 2: with five percent deposits for first home buyers from Labor
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Speaker 2: via a government funded mortgage insurance scheme and from the
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Speaker 2: Libs the tax deductibility of mortgage interest repayments for first
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Speaker 2: home buyers too on the first six hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars of a mortgage, a little more in the city,
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Speaker 2: and only if they buy a new built home. The
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Speaker 2: Labour reckons. If they can get one hundred thousand new
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Speaker 2: homes built just for first home buyers, mind you, via
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Speaker 2: a new ten billion dollar fund, they're back in the game,
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Speaker 2: although how this would work is far from clear, and
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Speaker 2: from their record to date with no new homes built
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Speaker 2: in the past three years, well who can believe them.
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Speaker 2: When pushed on the detail, the Housing Minister couldn't explain
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Speaker 2: Labour's fund, and she also made the laughable claim this
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Speaker 2: is on the ABC yesterday, that the government could build
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Speaker 2: homes cheaper than the private sector. On housing on the
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Speaker 2: Coalition's side, well I think they've got the better offering.
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Speaker 2: They also pledged to cut back Labour's immigration levels, those
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Speaker 2: record numbers of immigration that are in part driving the
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Speaker 2: housing crisis, and they'll tackle affordability of homing by allowing people,
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Speaker 2: of course to access a portion of their super and
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Speaker 2: suspend for ten years any further changes to the design
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Speaker 2: rules that have made building a new home so much money.
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Speaker 4: We anticipate that we will reduce net overseas migration in
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Speaker 4: our first year by one hundred thousand relative to Labor,
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Speaker 4: and will free up one hundred thousand homes in five
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Speaker 4: years through those measures.
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Speaker 2: Listening to both leaders yesterday, at the cost of living
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Speaker 2: crisis was front and center, but nowhere was there any
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Speaker 2: acknowledgment from Labor that it was their decisions that had
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Speaker 2: made the economy weaker and the crisis worse. And that's
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Speaker 2: why this government does not deserve to be rewarded with
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Speaker 2: a second term. Because Labour's spending addiction has kept interest
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Speaker 2: rates higher for longer, its union loyalties of damaged productivity,
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Speaker 2: its green fixations made new resource developments almost impossible, and
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Speaker 2: its emissions obsessions made power prices skyrocket and is deindustrializing
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Speaker 2: this country. The best argument for a change of government
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Speaker 2: is that it will end all end up in economic
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Speaker 2: and social self harm if we did not change In Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton, he said, will end the energy madness by
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Speaker 2: getting more gas into the system and eventually nuclear power.
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Speaker 2: He said, He'll get organized crime out of the construction
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Speaker 2: industry by de registering the CFWU, and he'll wind back
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Speaker 2: all the wasteful and ineffective government spending that's been just
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Speaker 2: such a hallmark of the Albanese prime ministership. With today's
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Speaker 2: newspolet confirming and earlier dropping coalition support, the challenge will
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Speaker 2: be restoring momentum to the coalition campaign. Today both leaders
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Speaker 2: were at housing sites brooking their respective policies for first
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Speaker 2: home buyers, which just looked like much of a much
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Speaker 2: does today from both of them, even though yesterday Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton had created another clear contrast with Labor.
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Speaker 4: Do you know what else will do to help austrain
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Speaker 4: families who drive? Will scrap Labour's car and ute tax.
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Speaker 2: There it was yesterday, without much fanfare, of course, so
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Speaker 2: we'll remember Labor had legislated high vehicle emission standards which
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Speaker 2: would force you to buy electric vehicles rather than the
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Speaker 2: utes and SUVs at most Australians want. Labour's utax will
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Speaker 2: add around fourteen thousand dollars to the price of some
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Speaker 2: of our most popular cars, a Forward Ranger and the
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Speaker 2: Toyota high Lux. Now this is where Dutton also needs
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Speaker 2: to be out this week selling a message on vehicles
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Speaker 2: as well as housing, that it's labor that's causing the
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Speaker 2: damage and that only the Coalition will fix it. Pre
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Speaker 2: polls were they going to open in just about a
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Speaker 2: week's time, So the Coalition has to pin the cost
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Speaker 2: of living in crisis on labor. People are feeling it,
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Speaker 2: but they're not yet blaming labor big soft vote, though
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Speaker 2: anything can happen. One way would be to remind people
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Speaker 2: of Labour's lies, starting with that great big lie that
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Speaker 2: the PM can't even admit to their alone apologize for that.
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Speaker 2: He would catch a power bill by two hundred and
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Speaker 2: seventy five dollars a year. Now on that yesterday, Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton didn't miss.
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Speaker 4: If Anthony Alberezi lies about something as simple as falling
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Speaker 4: off a stage, there's nothing he won't lie about. The
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Speaker 4: footage was there people saw at Prime Minister, People saw
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Speaker 4: you fall off the stage. How can you look people
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Speaker 4: in the eye and lie to them as you did
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Speaker 4: in relation to the two hundred and seventy five dollars,
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Speaker 4: as you did in relation to the Voice.
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Speaker 2: This government has already left us poorer, weaker and more divided,
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Speaker 2: and if re elected, it'll just double down and move
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Speaker 2: even further to the heart i'd left as this Prime minister.
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Speaker 2: This week Prime Minister takes instruction from Adam band So,
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Speaker 2: no windback of emissions targets, no slowdown of Chris Bowen's
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Speaker 2: renewable energy badness, new taxes on investment, properties, jobs and
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Speaker 2: industry faced off shore. The Voice absolutely back on steroids.
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Speaker 2: Steroids only this time they won't let you have a
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Speaker 2: vote to reject it. More indoctrination of school kids in
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Speaker 2: the classroom, more hatred against Israel, blackouts, brown outs, and
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Speaker 2: budget rant ink for the next decade or more. That
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Speaker 2: is what is ahead of Australia. There has never been
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Speaker 2: a more important election in my lifetime, and the only
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Speaker 2: way to stop the damage is to change the government.
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Speaker 2: As I said, we're kicking up week three of the
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Speaker 2: federal campaign, so let's check in with the two camps.
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Speaker 2: We'll start with the Prime Minister's camp. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: from Anthony Albanese's bus political reporter Cam reddin Well. Cam
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Speaker 2: the pms ended the day in Tasmania. Are in the
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Speaker 2: seat of Lions after Labor of course, is there to
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Speaker 2: sandbag the seat.
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Speaker 3: What can you tell us?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Tasmanians will be very familiar with the candidate in Lyons, Peter.
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Speaker 6: Rebecca White tried three times to become the premier down here.
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Speaker 6: She foiled on every occasion. At one stage, durious guy
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Speaker 6: in his people's forum said she wouldn't run federally if
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Speaker 6: she lost again, but then had a change of heart.
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Speaker 6: So Rebecca White, she's the candidate for Lions here. It
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Speaker 6: is a seat that Labor holds. There was some controversy
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Speaker 6: around Brian Mitchell not contesting this seat again, but he's gone.
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Speaker 6: She's in. It's a one percent seat, one that Labor
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Speaker 6: wants to hold. The feeling is here, Peter, that most
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Speaker 6: of these seats are expected to stay as they are.
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Speaker 6: There are five in Tasmania, two for each of the
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Speaker 6: major parties, and of course Andrew Wilkie holds the independent
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Speaker 6: seat of Clark, which covers most of the Hobart region.
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Speaker 6: Bass and Brad Labor targets where they believe that they
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Speaker 6: can potentially shift the vote in their favor for Tasmania.
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Speaker 6: What's giving them a little bit of hope, Peter, is
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Speaker 6: this latest poll that's out in the last few minutes
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Speaker 6: in the nine newspapers we saw News poll today still
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Speaker 6: at fifty two forty eight. This new pole in the
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Speaker 6: last five minutes has seen Labor nudge further ahead on
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Speaker 6: resolves measure to now lead fifty three and a half
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Speaker 6: to forty six and a half on two party terms,
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Speaker 6: which would put majority government if that was uniform. Right
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Speaker 6: in the frame. The feeling in the Labor camp is yes,
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Speaker 6: it's only halfway. I think the official halfway mark of
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Speaker 6: this campaign is tomorrow. They don't want to put a
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Speaker 6: foot wrong. They're wary that things can turn on a dime.
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Speaker 6: But there's some real confidence in the numbers there for Labor,
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Speaker 6: Peter that at the moment they feel the trend is
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Speaker 6: their friend, knowing of course that things can change and
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Speaker 6: there's always to borrow an American term, an October surprise
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Speaker 6: that can come late in the campaign.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could certainly feel through the TV today
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Speaker 2: the confidence in the Prime Minister's camp. He has had
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Speaker 2: a much better campaign this time. Around. He had a
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Speaker 2: shocker last time, but he's still won last time. And
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Speaker 2: Bill Shorton had a terrific campaign in twenty nineteen, and
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Speaker 2: of course he lost the unlosable. So plenty to play
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Speaker 2: for stell Camp. Good luck with tomorrow's magical mystery tour.
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Speaker 2: Let's going out of the opposition leader's campaign. They're up
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Speaker 2: in the air again tonight, so a political reporter, Reuben Spargo,
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Speaker 2: filed you this report.
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Speaker 7: The coalition is spreaking its housing policies. The L and
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Speaker 7: P fights to reclaim the seat of Ryan, flanked by
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Speaker 7: his son Harry. Peter Dutton is attempting to entice first
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Speaker 7: home buyers. They could save fifty five thousand dollars over
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Speaker 7: five years under the opposition's housing policy.
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Speaker 8: I am saving up for a house, and so is
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Speaker 8: my sister back and a lot of my mate But
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Speaker 8: as you've probably heard, it's almost impossible to get in
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Speaker 8: in the current states.
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Speaker 4: Our policies will drive up home ownership.
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Speaker 1: That's what we do.
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Speaker 4: That's what we're all about here. Our policy. Our policy
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Speaker 4: is about increasing supply and reducing demand by cutting the
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Speaker 4: migration program.
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Speaker 7: Despite this, the opposition leader claims he wants to see
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Speaker 7: median house prices go up. This new housing development is
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Speaker 7: rising in the inner Brisbane seat of Ryan. It's held
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Speaker 7: by the Greens with a margin of two point six percent.
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Speaker 7: The L and P lost the electorate in twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 7: After twenty one years, Ryan is in the only seat
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Speaker 7: that Peter Darton is going after. He also has his
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Speaker 7: site set on Blair, Lily and Brisbane.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll leave those traveling will be there for
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Speaker 2: the moment. Let's go to our camera Kruz Skyness political
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Speaker 2: contributor Chris Juelman and The Australians National editor Dennis Shanahan.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the launchers. We'll get into newspoll in
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Speaker 2: the moment, but let's stop and talk about these launches.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday we had Labour in Wa, we had the Coalition
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Speaker 2: in Western Sydney. Dennis, you know we've all been around
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Speaker 2: a while. I reckon in terms of Hoopler, these launches
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Speaker 2: are becoming smaller and smaller events less probably influential in
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Speaker 2: the campaign, if I can say that. Give us your
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Speaker 2: thoughts on that point, but also the various policy offerings
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Speaker 2: we saw on the table.
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Speaker 9: Well, look, I think the campaign launchers are certainly nowhere
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Speaker 9: near what they used to be. They used to be
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Speaker 9: in large venues with huge crowds and you could work
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Speaker 9: the crowd and build up a motion and all that
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Speaker 9: sort of thing. But yesterday out in the Liverpool Catholic
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Speaker 9: Club in Hoxton Park, there were just over two hundred
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Speaker 9: people in the audience and that included a lot of
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Speaker 9: handpicked liberals. Well they're all hand picked liberals, but including
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Speaker 9: shadow ministers and former prime ministers. So a very small crowd,
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Speaker 9: the smallest crowd I have ever seen at a campaign launch.
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Speaker 9: It had fewer people and more security people than I've
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Speaker 9: ever seen at a launch. So security point is making
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Speaker 9: its the impact. It's all kept secret beforehand so that
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Speaker 9: protesters can't come, and so the campaign launch as a
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Speaker 9: performance has gone. Yesterday's speech from Peter Dutton could very
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Speaker 9: well have just been a normal speech delivered at any stage,
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Speaker 9: apart from its length. But I think that one interesting
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Speaker 9: thing about the campaign launch yesterday was that yes Peter
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Speaker 9: Dutton and Anthony Albernasian in Western Australia matched each other
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Speaker 9: on housing policies. They're going huge twenty billion dollars in
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Speaker 9: housing policies directed at young people, first Home buyers in
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Speaker 9: particular and called cost of living relief. So they're both
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Speaker 9: going hell for leather on that point. But at the
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Speaker 9: Liverpool Catholic Club downstairs, while upstairs were a couple of
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Speaker 9: hundred pe and you know, all the focus was on
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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton. Downstairs, there were hundreds of people and a
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Speaker 9: lot more balloons for birthday parties at the Liverpool Catholic
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Speaker 9: Club as people went there for their Sunday afternoon lunch,
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Speaker 9: and you've got no idea that there was a launch
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Speaker 9: upstairs that they could be interested about, or that they
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Speaker 9: took any interest in. I think that in a way
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Speaker 9: it demonstrated that people have not yet connected to this
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Speaker 9: election campaign, which has been running since at least January one,
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Speaker 9: and probably since December. I think the political groups, you know,
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Speaker 9: people like me have been watching this for months, but
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Speaker 9: the public hasn't yet connected completely with the idea that
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Speaker 9: there is a very important election campaign underway.
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Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more.
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Speaker 2: Dennisay asked a lot of people. I was in the
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Speaker 2: marginal set of Rangeman on the weekend. I asked a
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Speaker 2: lot of people out and about did they even know
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Speaker 2: there was an election on? Did they know the date
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Speaker 2: of the election, and I reckon A good seventy percent
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Speaker 2: of them said yeah, I reckon it's coming up, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: And I said, well it's on now, and very few
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Speaker 2: you could even name the dates. So you're absolutely right
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Speaker 2: about the soft volte. What did you make things, Chris,
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Speaker 2: I particularly mention that pretty cringe worthy exchange between Albanzi
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Speaker 2: and Tanya plever sec and the fact that over at
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party event, Dennis talks about former prime ministers, Well,
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull, clearly he put his invitation in the bin.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Look, I don't think anyone would be surprised about the
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Speaker 10: feeling between Tania per secd and Anthony Albernezi. They've been
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Speaker 10: long term rivals. I think that Tanya plipper sc thinks
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Speaker 10: that you should have Anthony Alberanesi's job, and he doesn't
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Speaker 10: hold her and terribly high regard. I don't think there
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Speaker 10: are any secrets about that. Malcolm turblewill he's been campaigning
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Speaker 10: against the Liberal Party for the last two elections, so
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Speaker 10: why would he turn up and support it in any way,
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Speaker 10: shape or form. It's interesting to look at the policies.
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Speaker 10: We seem to have some demands side fixes for supply
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Speaker 10: side problems when it comes to housing, that could well
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Speaker 10: and truly force up the cost of housing no matter
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Speaker 10: who gets into government. Look, I wish that someone like
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Speaker 10: Kevin Rudd back in two thousand and seven would yell
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Speaker 10: out this reckless spending must stop. And that was at
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Speaker 10: a time when we actually had money to spend, we
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Speaker 10: had no debt, and we are having budget surpluses wedding
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Speaker 10: towards a triggering dollars worth of debt now and no
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Speaker 10: one seems to be concerned about that particularly, I have
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Speaker 10: to say, not for the public. It seems to be
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Speaker 10: now that it is all about what you can be
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Speaker 10: bought for in an election campaign. Well, I think times
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Speaker 10: at times are difficult, and eventually reality is going to
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Speaker 10: be forced on both of these major parties. Things will
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Speaker 10: have to change in government.
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Speaker 2: Dennis, give us your take on news pole today. There's
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Speaker 2: a bit more of a climb there for labor. It'll
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Speaker 2: put some wind in their sales. Give us your sense
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Speaker 2: of things.
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Speaker 9: Well, Look, I think that the real point about the
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Speaker 9: news poll today, when you look at it, everyone except
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Speaker 9: one nation is basically where they were at the last election.
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Speaker 9: There's been a decline over the last few months in
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Speaker 9: the coalition primary vote, but they're back to where they
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Speaker 9: were at the last election. None of that decline has
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Speaker 9: gone to the Labor party primary vote. The two party
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Speaker 9: preferred remains the same as it was last week. So
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Speaker 9: what we've actually got here is a shift within the
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Speaker 9: conservative vote away from the Coalition but towards the minor
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Speaker 9: Conservative party of One Nation. Now a lot of that
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Speaker 9: could well be coalition voters who were with the Coalition
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Speaker 9: have gone back to One Nation, but it could also
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Speaker 9: be Labor voters who are giving their support to one Nation.
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Speaker 9: The one nation vote is not as good for the
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Speaker 9: Coalition as the Green vote is for Labor. The Green
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Speaker 9: vote is where it was at the last election, and
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Speaker 9: that can give preferences to Labor of about eighty percent.
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Speaker 9: The Coalition can only really rely on fifty to fifty
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Speaker 9: preferences from one Nation. So what we're seeing is I
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Speaker 9: think a demonstration in the national polls that yes, the
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Speaker 9: Coalition has lost some support. Labor hasn't built any What
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Speaker 9: we've seen is a much greater chance of minority government.
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Speaker 9: But we've also got the idea, I think that there's
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Speaker 9: a great deal happening in individual electorates. Look at where
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Speaker 9: the leaders are going. They're not running national campaigns. They
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Speaker 9: are going to particular seats where they are either sandbagging
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Speaker 9: their own seats, defending seats which wouldn't be at risk
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Speaker 9: at that two party preferred vote, and yet that's what
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Speaker 9: they're doing. Both sides are doing it. And I think
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Speaker 9: that what we're seeing, as Jim Chalmers said today, that
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Speaker 9: this is going to get tighter, and I think it's
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Speaker 9: going to be closer than the national poll suggests.
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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.
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Speaker 2: I think that there is an absolute ground game. There's
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Speaker 2: been a return to local politics in the last two elections,
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Speaker 2: in particular in a way we haven't seen the national campaign.
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Speaker 2: Obsessives like us will draw sort of things from it,
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Speaker 2: but I think the cut through with the soft vote
21:34
Speaker 2: is happening literally street by street, bunnings by bunnings. Just
21:38
Speaker 2: on that point, the local game, social media, Chris Yellman,
21:44
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that we haven't really I
21:47
Speaker 2: guess analyzed because they are new features of campaigning. Really
21:51
Speaker 2: interesting about Paige comment from these influences on social media
21:56
Speaker 2: basically cash for comment, I would call it, but it
22:01
Speaker 2: was raised with Monique Ryan a key independent, a key tale.
22:05
Speaker 2: But apparently she's got no opinion about this.
22:07
Speaker 3: Have a listen.
22:08
Speaker 11: Should it be clear to voters people who are looking
22:11
Speaker 11: at this content that it's paid for by the politician?
22:15
Speaker 3: I don't want to have an opinion on it, really.
22:18
Speaker 11: You don't think You don't think voters deserve to know
22:22
Speaker 11: that if someone they're watching is saying great things about
22:24
Speaker 11: a politician, whether they're being paid by that politician.
22:28
Speaker 3: I'll have to go to some thought.
22:29
Speaker 12: It's not something I've given great thought to myself.
22:31
Speaker 11: You'd have to give that some thought. Well, I would
22:37
Speaker 11: think that it would be clear.
22:39
Speaker 13: I don't know. I think.
22:47
Speaker 3: I'd have to give it some thought done.
22:51
Speaker 2: You're kidding me, Chris, You're kidding me.
22:55
Speaker 10: Yeah, Peter will have paid endorsement is an ad right,
22:57
Speaker 10: and if it was an AD then it would come
22:59
Speaker 10: under our system and would need to be declared at
23:01
Speaker 10: some stage. And I'd just invite people to do this
23:04
Speaker 10: with these kinds of things. To imagine that Peter Dutton
23:07
Speaker 10: had been asked the same question and had had the
23:09
Speaker 10: same result. What do you think the Teals and the
23:12
Speaker 10: Greens and the Labor Party would be saying today? Would
23:14
Speaker 10: they have any doubt at all about where they stood. Now,
23:17
Speaker 10: of course they would not. It's not something you have
23:19
Speaker 10: to think about very long.
23:22
Speaker 2: Just quickly, I'm going to go on and speak to
23:24
Speaker 2: Michael Schubridge about this. But huge news over the weekend
23:28
Speaker 2: in relation to China and steel making in Britain. Chris,
23:32
Speaker 2: I know you've looked at this really closely.
23:35
Speaker 10: Yeah, well this is extraordinary. What we're seeing is the
23:38
Speaker 10: British government is taking over control of British steel at
23:41
Speaker 10: a factory, the last virgin steel works in Scunthorpe in
23:44
Speaker 10: the northern part of the UK, because they are frightened
23:47
Speaker 10: that the Chinese company that owns it might be in
23:50
Speaker 10: the process of sabotaging it and letting the furnaces go cold,
23:53
Speaker 10: which would mean it would be very difficult and would
23:55
Speaker 10: cost hundreds of millions of dollars to restart. Now they're
23:59
Speaker 10: accusing the Chinese essentially of sabotage. Well, I can tell
24:02
Speaker 10: you who started the sabotage of this, and it wasn't
24:03
Speaker 10: the Chinese government. It was the British government under both
24:06
Speaker 10: Conservatives and the Labor Party, who decided to stop using
24:09
Speaker 10: coal in the UK. What we've seen since then, is
24:12
Speaker 10: that electricity prices have gone up to one hundred and
24:15
Speaker 10: twenty four percent of what they were just five years ago.
24:17
Speaker 10: Electricity prices in the UK are four times as high
24:20
Speaker 10: as are in the United States. And now we might
24:23
Speaker 10: see the extraordinary site of a Royalist Royal Navy vessel
24:28
Speaker 10: escorting a coking coal ship load into port in the UK.
24:34
Speaker 9: Get this.
24:34
Speaker 10: They need their coal, but they have to import it
24:37
Speaker 10: and they're going to escort it with the Royal Navy.
24:39
Speaker 7: You could not make this up.
24:40
Speaker 10: This is Shakespearean, but I don't know whether it's a
24:43
Speaker 10: tragedy or a farce.
24:44
Speaker 3: Peter Jens Oliver there, thank you. We'll stay with that issue.
24:49
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Keir Starmers recalled MPs from their Easter break
24:53
Speaker 2: in Britain to pass emergency legislation allowing the government to
24:56
Speaker 2: take control of steel making operations.
25:00
Speaker 14: It allows us to take control of British Steel's BLUs furnaces,
25:04
Speaker 14: maintaining steel prediction and by extension, protecting the company's three
25:08
Speaker 14: and a half thousand strong workforce. Now, the bill does
25:11
Speaker 14: not transfer ownership to the government. We'll have to deal
25:15
Speaker 14: with this mutter at a later date.
25:18
Speaker 2: Jodamenad to discuss this. Director at Strategic Analysis Australia Michael Schuebridge. Well, Michael,
25:23
Speaker 2: you know we're in the middle of a federal campaign here.
25:26
Speaker 2: Not much is cutting through the tariffs did of course,
25:30
Speaker 2: I think this is a huge issue. We cannot not
25:33
Speaker 2: discuss it tonight. I think it's a key warning not
25:37
Speaker 2: just for Britain but for countries like Australia. Explain to
25:42
Speaker 2: my viewers why this should put chills down their spine.
25:48
Speaker 15: Well, Peter, this is a real shocking wake up call
25:52
Speaker 15: about the consequences of having Chinese ownership and control of
25:57
Speaker 15: critical industries and infrastructure. This case with British Steel is
26:02
Speaker 15: a Chinese company, whether acting for its own commercial or
26:07
Speaker 15: for government driven purposes, out of Beijing, ending Britain's ability
26:13
Speaker 15: to make any kind of steel and turning it instead
26:16
Speaker 15: into a complete dependency on China. And that exertion of
26:22
Speaker 15: control over critical infrastructure should make us think about the
26:27
Speaker 15: Chinese ownership of electricity and gas distribution in Australia, and
26:32
Speaker 15: of course ports like Darwin Port.
26:36
Speaker 2: And transmission lines and five G networks and even totriage operators.
26:43
Speaker 2: I mean, if you wanted to enact some sort of
26:45
Speaker 2: domestic chaos. You'd have all the traffic lights in the
26:48
Speaker 2: country fail and all the toll manufacturing reading information, you know,
26:53
Speaker 2: put a bug in that system and a.
26:55
Speaker 3: Way we go.
26:55
Speaker 2: I mean, these are the things that I think we've
26:59
Speaker 2: been asleep and what we're seeing play out in the UK.
27:03
Speaker 2: We're not immune.
27:07
Speaker 15: No, it isn't it interesting that Kis Starmer. When he
27:09
Speaker 15: came to power, he wasn't going to be a national
27:12
Speaker 15: security prime minister. But since he was elected in July,
27:16
Speaker 15: he's raised the UK defense budget to two and a
27:19
Speaker 15: half percent of GDP and he's intervening on critical industry
27:23
Speaker 15: and infrastructure issues on national security grounds. He's obviously understanding
27:29
Speaker 15: China is not the UK's new best friend economically or politically,
27:35
Speaker 15: even with the risks coming out of Washington.
27:40
Speaker 2: And the big is here, Michael. Beyond that, the Chinese ownership,
27:43
Speaker 2: of course, is energy pricing. You heard Chris Hillman on that.
27:45
Speaker 2: I think this is why you and I have been
27:47
Speaker 2: saying for years now. Energy security is national security. And
27:52
Speaker 2: if you throw something like AI in the mix and
27:54
Speaker 2: the gantuan amounts of power required for that, if Chinese
27:59
Speaker 2: get the if China gets the jump on us, which
28:01
Speaker 2: I think they'll almost have on AI and they can
28:04
Speaker 2: power their AI systems. And we've got, you know, a
28:09
Speaker 2: wink and a prayer and some dodgy renewals and that's
28:12
Speaker 2: all we've got between that Namageddon. Well, we just might
28:16
Speaker 2: as well pack up and go home.
28:17
Speaker 15: We are managing our decline, yes, And that's why this
28:22
Speaker 15: election so far has been so disappointing. We haven't seen
28:27
Speaker 15: engagement on national security and the connections between energy, technology
28:32
Speaker 15: and security. Maybe we will in the few weeks left.
28:37
Speaker 2: All right, I'll leave it there, thank you, Michael. I'm
28:40
Speaker 2: hearing too that there might be defense policies come out
28:42
Speaker 2: this week, but goodness saying we had the launches yesterday.
28:45
Speaker 2: Let's get the defense stuff out with the launch anyway,
28:47
Speaker 2: what would I know? All right, after the break, let's
28:49
Speaker 2: look at the policies, tax savings, cost of living, of
28:53
Speaker 2: course housing over the weekend. Ross greenwand he'll help us
28:56
Speaker 2: understand them all. Plus those paid spookers, the legro spender
28:59
Speaker 2: and those the tills. Don't want you to know these
29:01
Speaker 2: people are paid. How's that for integrity, ladies. Right in
29:10
Speaker 2: the moment, we're going to get into the tilS on
29:12
Speaker 2: social media with the panel. But first I want to
29:16
Speaker 2: get you to understand just how bloated and confusing the
29:19
Speaker 2: Australian school curriculum is. Now I have a look at this.
29:22
Speaker 2: This is a copy of just the maths curriculum. Those
29:27
Speaker 2: four volumes are not even volumes, it's just they couldn't
29:29
Speaker 2: be put into one binder. That's the Maths Curriculum year seventy,
29:33
Speaker 2: year ten, three and a half thousand pages. There a
29:37
Speaker 2: bloated ideology instruction that just confuses teachers and students absolutely.
29:43
Speaker 2: This is what's known as it's impacted heavily by what's
29:46
Speaker 2: known as the cross curriculum priorities. Now that means it's
29:49
Speaker 2: about two and a half thousand suggestions in those papers
29:53
Speaker 2: about how to incorporate a whole lot of stuff into
29:55
Speaker 2: lesson content. Not what you should be teaching kids about maths,
29:59
Speaker 2: but in the maths content, what you also need to
30:02
Speaker 2: teach them about indigenous history and culture for example. And
30:07
Speaker 2: this is not just in maths, this is in biology.
30:09
Speaker 2: History would work if you can believe it, any subject
30:12
Speaker 2: in high school has to have woven into it environmental
30:16
Speaker 2: and indigenous perspectives. Now this comes from the rud Gillard era.
30:22
Speaker 2: But how a look at our competitors, Singapore. That little document,
30:25
Speaker 2: I'll put the picture up again. That little document on
30:27
Speaker 2: the other side. That's Singapore's math curriculum. Now they are
30:33
Speaker 2: a world leading nation. And it's eighty pages long and
30:37
Speaker 2: it's all the basics. Someone who's dug right into this detail.
30:41
Speaker 2: Director of the school's program at the Beginstitute of Public Affairs,
30:45
Speaker 2: Colleen Harken. I saw a fantastic presentation by you and
30:49
Speaker 2: Adelaide recently with the IPA, and I was gobsmacked to
30:53
Speaker 2: see the physical reality of what we're trying to teach
30:55
Speaker 2: and not teaching very well our kids, and what Singapore
30:59
Speaker 2: is doing. I didn't think it was that bad.
31:02
Speaker 16: No, it's terrible, Peter. I just want to correct you.
31:04
Speaker 16: But it is a foundation to year ten. It does
31:06
Speaker 16: not include year eleven and twelve, but it is the
31:07
Speaker 16: prime time Foundation two year ten.
31:11
Speaker 3: But it's an astounding document.
31:12
Speaker 16: It is so unwieldy and bloated with activist ideology. And
31:17
Speaker 16: I know you can't compare directly with other countries because
31:19
Speaker 16: Singapore has some differences to ours, but when you know
31:22
Speaker 16: that they are first on the oecdps A results and
31:25
Speaker 16: we are languishing and our results have been going backwards
31:28
Speaker 16: year on year for twenty years. You have to look
31:31
Speaker 16: at it and say, we are clearly doing something very wrong.
31:35
Speaker 2: And you know there's a whole industry to hide this
31:39
Speaker 2: from parents, because when you went looking to have a
31:43
Speaker 2: look at this document, you can't even get it as
31:46
Speaker 2: a document.
31:46
Speaker 3: No, you can't.
31:47
Speaker 16: So that image that you just showed a moment ago
31:50
Speaker 16: that is not available as a document that we've spent
31:55
Speaker 16: days upon days having to download each of the sections.
31:58
Speaker 16: There are elaborations, there are content scriptors, there are all
32:00
Speaker 16: these things that you have to bury into that image.
32:03
Speaker 3: Is what it would be if it was a book.
32:05
Speaker 3: It's not.
32:05
Speaker 16: We actually asked a kara for a copy of it
32:07
Speaker 16: and they said it's not available.
32:08
Speaker 3: Why would you want that? And that's sort of part
32:10
Speaker 3: of the scenario about.
32:11
Speaker 16: It is very opaque. The ideology that's embedded into it
32:16
Speaker 16: is shoehorned into every subject, every year, level, every opportunity,
32:21
Speaker 16: and in maths in particular, it even says things like
32:23
Speaker 16: teaching children to dance through teaching children to count through
32:27
Speaker 16: aboriginal dance, the pollution of subject integrity is quite astounding.
32:33
Speaker 16: Parents would be quite shocked. And then it's no surprise
32:35
Speaker 16: whereas lots are going backwards. We've got a third of
32:38
Speaker 16: all of our students and not meeting minimum benchmarks minimum.
32:42
Speaker 2: And we're talking about a volume set like that for
32:46
Speaker 2: every single subject.
32:48
Speaker 16: Well, that is what's called one learning area, and there
32:51
Speaker 16: are eight learning areas in the curriculum. Some of those
32:53
Speaker 16: learning areas have multiple subjects underneath them, so geography, business history, they.
33:00
Speaker 3: All come under one learning area. And if it was.
33:02
Speaker 16: Downloaded, I don't know, the curriculum could be I don't know,
33:05
Speaker 16: one hundred thousand pages. Who knows, because there is so
33:09
Speaker 16: many that live under Maths is the only one that
33:12
Speaker 16: has a learning area and a subject as one. Every
33:15
Speaker 16: other learning area has multiple subjects that sit underneath it.
33:18
Speaker 2: And when you're forced by these right era Gillard era
33:22
Speaker 2: rules to apply Aboriginal culture and learning and environmental practices,
33:28
Speaker 2: let's say to Maths, what is a teacher meant to
33:31
Speaker 2: do with that rule?
33:34
Speaker 16: Well, it's clearly you know, it's an impossible task. Who
33:37
Speaker 16: can use a document like that? It means that the
33:41
Speaker 16: red tape that is involved in their job is extraordinary
33:44
Speaker 16: because the Singapore one exam is a good example of
33:47
Speaker 16: if you understand maths, you understand by the end of
33:50
Speaker 16: certain grade children will be able to do multiplication to
33:53
Speaker 16: three digits. And if you don't understand what that means,
33:55
Speaker 16: you shouldn't be a math teacher. And so the Australian
33:59
Speaker 16: curriculum says, well, you have to go off and understand
34:01
Speaker 16: something about and I'm not making this up, things like
34:04
Speaker 16: how aboriginals used ovens to do things that somehow is
34:09
Speaker 16: shoehorned into mathematics.
34:11
Speaker 3: So you have to go off and.
34:12
Speaker 16: Do a whole separate task to try and merge those
34:15
Speaker 16: two principles together, and it is littered throughout them sustainability
34:20
Speaker 16: and aboriginal torrest rate allows everywhere those sorts of principles.
34:25
Speaker 16: Even if we agree with them, which I don't, they
34:28
Speaker 16: find their way into a social sciences curriculum or history.
34:32
Speaker 16: Perhaps they wouldn't be in maths, so we would be
34:34
Speaker 16: in biology, they wouldn't be in chemistry.
34:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, and they don't belong there.
34:39
Speaker 16: Sustainability and our history and culture doesn't belong in maths.
34:43
Speaker 2: Just quickly, why we're not having this whole debate? Then,
34:46
Speaker 2: in the middle of an election CAMPI.
34:48
Speaker 3: Oh, we definitely should be.
34:49
Speaker 16: I mean the coalition is saying back to basics education, education,
34:53
Speaker 16: not ideology, which is fantastic, but I'd like to see
34:57
Speaker 16: it given a lot more oxygen because our education system
35:00
Speaker 16: is in dire need for somebody to actually stand up
35:03
Speaker 16: and address it and champion the cause for our kids
35:05
Speaker 16: going in future.
35:06
Speaker 3: Well you, thank you, stick work.
35:08
Speaker 2: All right, that's why I needed to show you this
35:09
Speaker 2: in the middle of the campaign and make sure you
35:11
Speaker 2: understand before you vote. All right, quick break, calming back
35:14
Speaker 2: the panel. Fabulous panel coming up.
35:20
Speaker 3: We'll go back.
35:21
Speaker 2: In recent days, we've had the admission from fellow teel
35:24
Speaker 2: Allegora Spender, who says she has paid an agency to
35:27
Speaker 2: commission content with influencers and she's put them to air.
35:32
Speaker 2: This is a collaboration with Climate two hundred, but not
35:35
Speaker 2: much has been disclosed when Negrian, when asked, sort of
35:38
Speaker 2: dodged the question about whether it should be disclosed in
35:42
Speaker 2: the interests of integrity and transparency. So let's ask my
35:45
Speaker 2: panel what they think. When Nation Chief is starf James
35:48
Speaker 2: Ashby the Skies contributor Gary Hargrave joined me. Now, James,
35:52
Speaker 2: they campaign on this stuff. They say they're white knights
35:55
Speaker 2: and you know pure as are driven snow. To me,
35:59
Speaker 2: this is cash for common Where's the authorization that Pauline
36:02
Speaker 2: would have to have on the bottom of one of
36:04
Speaker 2: her ads?
36:06
Speaker 12: Exactly, you hit the nail on the head, Peter. Nineteen
36:09
Speaker 12: ninety nine, cash for comment came out, and I remember
36:11
Speaker 12: it specifically because I started working in radio in that
36:14
Speaker 12: same year and it was a big thing because people this.
36:19
Speaker 12: In that instance, it was the listeners to radio stations
36:22
Speaker 12: were being misled by two UI at the time, and
36:24
Speaker 12: there were massive fines that followed it. Now it's probably
36:28
Speaker 12: too late once this election has been held to go
36:30
Speaker 12: and investigate, but there should be better transparency and that
36:33
Speaker 12: is something that Monique Ryan has failed on every level
36:37
Speaker 12: at this election. And if she did it at this election,
36:40
Speaker 12: she probably did it at the last you know, with
36:41
Speaker 12: her husband's stealing core flutes. And now this what I
36:44
Speaker 12: would call dodgy practice of misleading the public who may
36:48
Speaker 12: consider voting for it. But I think when they find
36:50
Speaker 12: these little, these little tipbits out ahead of this election,
36:55
Speaker 12: they're starting to rethink the tials. They're not transparent. And Monique, right,
37:00
Speaker 12: betcha she puts in are seeking that money back through
37:04
Speaker 12: the Electoral Commission, because don't forget, she gets three dollars
37:07
Speaker 12: thirty eight per vote out there voters, So if you
37:09
Speaker 12: want to punish her, do not give her a first preference.
37:14
Speaker 2: Let's go to the comments made by Australia's Race Discrimination Commissioner,
37:18
Speaker 2: who's refused to explain his criticism of Australia's counter terrorism
37:23
Speaker 2: laws and policies, including a belief he says that they
37:27
Speaker 2: conflate Islam with terrorism.
37:30
Speaker 13: Garry Well, Peter, let's face it, any of this sort
37:38
Speaker 13: of stuff just doesn't wash with me, because there is
37:41
Speaker 13: nothing in our laws in this country that treats a
37:45
Speaker 13: group differently because of their race or their religion.
37:48
Speaker 2: That just isn't.
37:49
Speaker 13: And so if you are a law breaker, if you
37:51
Speaker 13: are somebody who is encouraging people to break the laws,
37:53
Speaker 13: if you're encouraging hatred, if you're preaching hatred, if you're
37:57
Speaker 13: actually trying to split the country up, the law may
38:00
Speaker 13: well look at you. But to suggest otherwise is just wrong.
38:04
Speaker 13: This bloke is wrong. He's egging it on, and by
38:06
Speaker 13: his comments alone, he's proving that he in fact is
38:10
Speaker 13: putting the race into the racial discrimination commissioner job, and
38:14
Speaker 13: I find that really sad, really really sad, and it's
38:17
Speaker 13: not good enough. We basically have got to find ways
38:19
Speaker 13: to get each other on with each other, not to
38:23
Speaker 13: create these divisions. But that's what this bloke wants to do,
38:25
Speaker 13: and that's what the alb and Easy government wants to do.
38:30
Speaker 2: Just quickly, James Ashby going live. Just a few moments
38:33
Speaker 2: ago on the Nightly website is a story by Latika
38:37
Speaker 2: Burke who says that she's interviewed the Prime Minister, and
38:41
Speaker 2: she says that he wants a third term, that if
38:44
Speaker 2: re elected, he will run the full term. He'll then
38:47
Speaker 2: run at the next election. He wants three goes of elbow.
38:51
Speaker 2: But he's also made the point in this interview that
38:54
Speaker 2: he is flagging a very major cabinet reshuffle. I made
38:58
Speaker 2: the point a bit earlier he looked pretty confident. Today, Well,
39:00
Speaker 2: I reckon, that's cocky.
39:04
Speaker 12: Well, the Prime Minister doesn't have a say over the cabinet.
39:07
Speaker 12: He may have a say who goes into which portfolio,
39:11
Speaker 12: but at the end of the day, the unions will
39:12
Speaker 12: have the final say. It is very cocky. The Prime
39:16
Speaker 12: Minister's sort of getting ahead of himself. Two and a
39:18
Speaker 12: half weeks out from May three. So yeah, I woun't
39:21
Speaker 12: I wouldn't count the chickens. But you know, if this
39:25
Speaker 12: government gets a second term, they will certainly not get
39:27
Speaker 12: a third because what we will see, particularly with the
39:31
Speaker 12: Greens holding Labor to ransom, is some really draconian laws
39:36
Speaker 12: that are passed. We will see this country go backwards
39:39
Speaker 12: and will certainly look like a third world nation if
39:41
Speaker 12: Labor does get a third term, let alone a second.
39:46
Speaker 2: Let's go to the masked neo Nazis or they appeared
39:50
Speaker 2: to be that, who rallied outside Senator James Patterson's office
39:55
Speaker 2: in Melbourne on Sunday. They chanted a whole lot of
39:57
Speaker 2: racist slogans. The Patterson, though, came out and spoke about
40:02
Speaker 2: the incident.
40:02
Speaker 3: Here he is.
40:05
Speaker 1: They covered their faces in a particularly cowardly move. If
40:08
Speaker 1: they had the drop belief in their system and they
40:11
Speaker 1: would have actually showed themselves and revealed themselves to the
40:14
Speaker 1: whole world, I think that speaks volumes about them. We
40:16
Speaker 1: led the fight over the last three years, Laura to
40:18
Speaker 1: pass really strong laws at the federal levels of crackdown
40:22
Speaker 1: on behavior like this. It is now a crime to
40:24
Speaker 1: engage in a Nazi salute.
40:27
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more with that, Gary.
40:29
Speaker 2: But what worries me is a reaction by the liberals
40:32
Speaker 2: in Victoria regarding moy redeeming. But beyond you never know
40:36
Speaker 2: who these people are. Some of them are masked, of
40:38
Speaker 2: course they are. They could be neo Nazis. They could
40:41
Speaker 2: similarly be left wing activists like Antifa who want to
40:45
Speaker 2: sort of slur a liberal politician with a neo Nazi
40:48
Speaker 2: far right sort of inference. It concerns me that this
40:53
Speaker 2: is happening, Peter.
40:55
Speaker 13: I always thought the whole deeming matter, that is exactly
40:57
Speaker 13: what occurred. They just simply brought crowd in, put under costumes,
41:01
Speaker 13: and they were so courageous they put a mask over
41:04
Speaker 13: their face. This is where the American political stuff is
41:07
Speaker 13: coming into the Australian scene. Right now. You've seeing the
41:10
Speaker 13: left following exactly the same example they're using in the
41:13
Speaker 13: United States, where they have so little courage they have
41:16
Speaker 13: to cover their face with a mask, They have to
41:19
Speaker 13: pretend to be something that people don't realize they are.
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Speaker 13: And this is the sort of nastiness. This is this
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Speaker 13: international left that's actually invading this election campaign, and we're
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Speaker 13: just getting English we're being like to from the left.
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Speaker 13: It is just so loud, it is so so hard
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Speaker 13: for Peter Dunn't to get cut through. But it is
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Speaker 13: actually an orchestrated thing to try and sway this election.
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Speaker 13: The media mob have chosen have changed an Alba to
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Speaker 13: win and these left activists so they're probably coming in
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Speaker 13: from over service frankly that are whipping everybody up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we've got to track all of that because
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Speaker 2: I also look at the money. I look at the money, gentlemen,
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. That's it from Azy Tomorrow Night
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Speaker 2: at six. He's Andrew