Latest / Karl and Crew / Getting Organized God’s Way with Eileen Koff & Letting Go of Stuff that Keeps you Stuck with Laurie Davies
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- 0:00S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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- 0:28S1: Delivering the truth daily.
- 0:30S4: All of my attempts to, you know, prop myself up
- 0:33S4: with achievement in good works. Well, God wasn't impressed by that,
- 0:36S4: even if other people were.
- 0:38S2: The gospel changes everything.
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- 0:46S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
- 0:50S1: and crew. Tis the season. Not to be jolly, but
- 0:56S1: tis the season to be Cleaning.
- 0:59S6: FA la la la la la la la la.
- 1:03S2: Can you just change that song to make it match
- 1:05S2: whatever season you like? Yeah. For spring you can do
- 1:08S2: it for summer. Just gotta. We gotta find lyrics for
- 1:10S2: each of these things. We'll just sing it all year round.
- 1:12S1: Why is spring.
- 1:13S6: Cleaning?
- 1:14S7: Blah blah blah blah blah. Let me get my mouth
- 1:16S7: moving here. Why is spring cleaning? That's a hard two words.
- 1:20S7: Why is that? Why is spring cleaning a thing? Uh,
- 1:25S7: I know why we're all huddled up over the winter months.
- 1:29S2: Yeah, that's a good one.
- 1:31S7: Eating, putting wrappers, stuffing them down in corners of couch corners.
- 1:35S7: Couch corners.
- 1:37S2: Yeah, I think there's probably some reality to that. Things
- 1:40S2: get cluttered up in the cold months, at least for
- 1:42S2: most of the country, through the cold months. But I
- 1:44S2: think then as well, you know, taking it like the
- 1:47S2: metaphorical way you've got like spring is a time of renewal. Yeah.
- 1:52S2: You know, things are popping up, spring it around.
- 1:54S7: Coming through the soil.
- 1:55S2: Yeah. And you say you want to have a little
- 1:57S2: bit of renewal in your life as well. Get rid
- 2:00S2: of some things, freshen up some things, make it feel new.
- 2:03S7: Yeah, I went out front here about a week ago,
- 2:07S7: got out a shovel and those street sweepers, usually there's
- 2:11S7: cars out on the streets, you know, so they go
- 2:14S7: all around them and there were no cars there. And
- 2:16S7: I'm like, ha! Tis the season to be street sweeping.
- 2:20S7: And so I got out my big old green monster
- 2:22S7: dumpster and a little flat shovel and just scooped it. Boy.
- 2:28S7: And it's there's endorphins that go off when you do that.
- 2:32S2: There is something that feels innately amazing about cleaning things.
- 2:38S2: I get that feeling every night when when we're getting
- 2:41S2: ready for bed because I've got a two year old.
- 2:43S2: And so the living room.
- 2:45S7: Ah, you're right about this one. Keep going.
- 2:48S2: Dude gets filled with toys all throughout the day. And
- 2:50S2: then at nighttime, it's time to get those things cleaned up.
- 2:54S2: And it feels so good to get that living room
- 2:57S2: floor visible again.
- 2:59S7: I love our granddaughter. I love baby Kate so much. Yes,
- 3:02S7: and she is so much fun. But when she's out
- 3:04S7: of here, I love so much.
- 3:07S2: Cleaning up.
- 3:08S7: Collapsing the little temporary wood fence thingy that we have
- 3:12S7: that creates a playpen, collapsing that down, getting that all
- 3:16S7: flat and organized. Oh, it's.
- 3:18S2: A.
- 3:18S7: Beautiful thing hauling all of those toys up to the
- 3:21S7: designated spot.
- 3:23S2: You like.
- 3:23S7: Oh yeah.
- 3:24S2: Look at how much space I have in here.
- 3:26S7: We got our home back. Ah, she's a blessing and
- 3:30S7: a half, but it's just wild how that works, isn't it?
- 3:33S2: Yeah, it really is. It's just something good about cleaning, man.
- 3:36S7: Well, we have got a real treat for you all
- 3:38S7: week long. We're titling it get It together. And not
- 3:41S7: from a posture of condemnation, but encouragement. And we're bringing
- 3:46S7: in a couple expert voices this week that we've never
- 3:49S7: heard here before on Carl and Chris.
- 3:51S2: I'm excited. I love some new voices coming in.
- 3:54S7: It's going to be great. Buckle up. Get a swig
- 3:57S7: of water. Put the broom down. We'll get to that
- 4:00S7: in time. First off, we got to get equipped, coached
- 4:03S7: and otherwise encouraged in getting it together right here on
- 4:08S7: Carl and Crew.
- 4:10S1: Take your next step with Jesus today. You're listening to
- 4:14S1: Carl and Crew.
- 4:16S7: Tis the season not to be jolly but to be cleaning.
- 4:21S7: It's springtime. And you know I want to just begin
- 4:24S7: with this reality boom crew. It can feel overwhelming. It
- 4:29S7: can feel discouraging. You can hear voices of condemnation. Those
- 4:34S7: are not of God. So we're walking a tightrope here
- 4:37S7: today because we want to champion the theology of organization order,
- 4:43S7: and yet not tromp on your soul because Satan's there already.
- 4:48S7: And we want to get some freedom because we're all
- 4:50S7: about taking that next step with Jesus. With me right
- 4:54S7: now is Eileen Coffin. She is guys. I mean, literally
- 4:59S7: in 2013 she won the best green service. It's a
- 5:03S7: national association of productivity and organizing professionals. She's a CPO,
- 5:09S7: if you know what that is. That's the certified professional organizer.
- 5:13S7: And she's with us right now. Eileen, you're with me
- 5:16S7: on this one. We don't need to tromp on people here.
- 5:19S7: They feel beat up enough, right, sister?
- 5:21S8: That's right. And I always tell everyone, it's not your fault.
- 5:24S8: There's no judgment here. The world and the enemy of
- 5:28S8: this world has kept us at a pace where it's like,
- 5:32S8: you know, it goes against everything God has ever told us.
- 5:36S8: So I always say there's no judgment, I get it,
- 5:39S8: I understand we're all riding the boat.
- 5:41S7: Yeah. Uh, Eileen, I want to begin with the theology
- 5:46S7: of order. And I love going after this. And I
- 5:48S7: know you're prepared for this one. A lot of times
- 5:51S7: we look at order or organization. And we actually see
- 5:55S7: that as almost like a it's detached from God, but
- 6:01S7: nothing's closer to the character of God. Is that right, Eileen?
- 6:04S8: That's correct, that's correct. It even starts with the first
- 6:07S8: thing he says in Scripture. Genesis one one God is
- 6:11S8: a God of order. You know, in the beginning God
- 6:14S8: created he and he took order out of disorder. First
- 6:19S8: thing order.
- 6:20S7: Where else do we find in Scripture this theology of order?
- 6:24S8: It's the the scriptures. The Bible is replete of of,
- 6:30S8: of scriptures. Just. It's everywhere. You you don't you don't
- 6:34S8: have to go very far. Um, Ecclesiastes 311, he has
- 6:39S8: made everything beautiful in its time. John. John nine four
- 6:44S8: is as long as it is day, we must work
- 6:46S8: of him who sent me. Night is coming and no
- 6:48S8: one can work. I love this one in Psalms 9012,
- 6:52S8: teach us to number our days, that we may gain
- 6:54S8: a heart of wisdom. Yeah. Um, it's just, you know,
- 6:59S8: Ecclesiastes three one. There's a time for everything. A season
- 7:03S8: or activity under the heavens. Time is replete. Work for this.
- 7:08S8: The six days. And on the seventh day you rest.
- 7:10S8: I mean, it's it's everywhere.
- 7:13S7: Yeah, I love it that that Psalm 90 is such
- 7:16S7: a cool psalm because it's the only song that Moses wrote.
- 7:20S7: And I've been saying this a lot. He doesn't say
- 7:24S7: wise people redeem time. He says people redeem time and
- 7:28S7: bring order to their lives become wise, which is hugely hopeful. So, Eileen, um,
- 7:36S7: where do we begin when you're coaching someone who feels
- 7:39S7: like I'm disorganized? Um, maybe there's a clutter issue. Maybe
- 7:44S7: there's just no organization to the few things they have.
- 7:48S7: How when you're coaching someone. I want you to do
- 7:51S7: a mass coaching session here this morning. When you're coaching someone,
- 7:55S7: where do you begin?
- 7:57S8: Prayer.
- 7:58S7: Really?
- 7:59S8: Yes. Prayer. Because it's not about me. It's not about them.
- 8:04S8: It's about what the Holy Spirit wants to fulfill within them.
- 8:08S7: I love.
- 8:09S8: That. So the first thing you do is you pray
- 8:12S8: and you ask the Lord. So many of my clients go, Eileen.
- 8:15S8: I always ask them, what's bothering you the most. And
- 8:19S8: they'll say, well, in terms of space, they'll say, you know, well, this,
- 8:23S8: this one or this one or this one. I said, okay,
- 8:25S8: let's pray and ask the Lord. Which one does he
- 8:28S8: think is the priority? And they'll come back and they'll go, oh, Eileen,
- 8:32S8: you know, that was really strange. I heard this, so
- 8:35S8: maybe we should start it here. So I said, okay.
- 8:38S8: And so the thing about time is if you want
- 8:41S8: to do this, if you're really committed and you're really,
- 8:46S8: you know, this is a high priority in your life.
- 8:48S8: If you're saying yes to this, what are you saying
- 8:52S8: no to? In other words, we only all have 24
- 8:56S8: hours in a day. And if you want to create
- 9:00S8: something that you've never done before, you're going to have
- 9:04S8: to give something up in order to fulfill your desire.
- 9:09S7: You know, you've written get organized God's way, bring God's
- 9:13S7: order into every area of your life, and you've been
- 9:17S7: interchanging time redemption with organization. I'm getting a hint here
- 9:22S7: that you think time redemption is paramount to getting things
- 9:26S7: lined up. Is that true?
- 9:28S8: That's correct, that's correct. Our we only have so many,
- 9:33S8: so many days. And then we're going to be with
- 9:35S8: the Lord. And so the concept is, is that do
- 9:38S8: we want to continue to continue to do with what
- 9:41S8: the world has taught us to just stay focused on
- 9:45S8: materialism or stay focused on how busy we are has
- 9:48S8: to so that we don't. We don't seep into those
- 9:52S8: gifts and those callings that the Lord has planned for
- 9:55S8: our lives before we were even born. Yeah. And, and
- 9:59S8: we're all going to stand before the Lord. That's not
- 10:01S8: the issue, but how we spent our time on earth,
- 10:06S8: what we were able to accomplish with those giftings and
- 10:10S8: those abilities that he only gave us. We're one body.
- 10:14S8: We're not. You know what I do? I can't do
- 10:17S8: what you do. So if we're one body, we have
- 10:21S8: to understand what are our giftings? How can I qualify
- 10:25S8: for all the purposes that God had placed in my life?
- 10:28S8: So that when I stand before him, he will say,
- 10:32S8: well done.
- 10:33S7: I lean cough. My guest right now, sought after speaker,
- 10:36S7: certified professional organizer, and an award winner of Best Green
- 10:41S7: Service by the National Association of Productivity and Organizing Professionals.
- 10:46S7: I still want to go after this because I think
- 10:48S7: you're right on, Eileen. This is really profound, but there's
- 10:51S7: a lot of people that want to get to that.
- 10:55S7: But they've got to clean up this. Why is that so?
- 11:00S8: In order to get to hear the Lord, he has
- 11:05S8: a still small voice. Clutter and disorganization screams. I mean,
- 11:11S8: I have so many clients that go. I go into
- 11:14S8: that spare bedroom. I can't even walk in. It's screaming
- 11:17S8: at me or I can't concentrate or I can't. And
- 11:21S8: so what they are feeling is literally a very scientific back.
- 11:26S8: And that's equal that that back is by Albert Einstein.
- 11:30S8: E equals MC squared. All matter has energy. And so
- 11:35S8: when you walk into a small area with so much
- 11:39S8: stuff around you, all of that stuff is creating its
- 11:43S8: own unconscious energy bombarding you. And so what you are
- 11:48S8: hearing and what you are feeling is an unconsciousness of
- 11:52S8: that energy that's being propelled at you. And so you
- 11:55S8: have to leave. So in order for you to actually
- 12:00S8: begin hearing from the Lord in his still small voice,
- 12:04S8: you have to begin eliminating the shouting that the clutter
- 12:08S8: is giving to you.
- 12:09S7: Profound. Eileen Cough is my guest coming up here in
- 12:13S7: a moment. Let's get really practical. And then we're going
- 12:16S7: to have a link for you. Boom crew. Hang on.
- 12:18S7: More with Eileen straight ahead.
- 12:20S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
- 12:23S5: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
- 12:26S5: to stay in your past. And I want you to
- 12:28S5: know and believe that today.
- 12:30S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
- 12:32S7: Eileen Cough is my guest. She's a speaker, certified professional
- 12:37S7: organizer and award winner, by the way, from the National
- 12:41S7: Association of Productivity and organizing professionals. Eileen, let's just break
- 12:46S7: it down. You've established something good. When we have space
- 12:51S7: that is disorganized, I guess you don't even have to
- 12:55S7: not look at it to know that it's there, right?
- 12:58S7: Even those cupboards or closets, even if you got the
- 13:01S7: doors closed, it's still screaming your name, right?
- 13:04S8: Well, in some respects, yes. Sometimes we've lived with it
- 13:08S8: for so long we don't even notice it. And so
- 13:13S8: when I say when you want to get started, take
- 13:15S8: a picture. Okay. Take a picture of the space and
- 13:19S8: then go into another room and take a look at
- 13:21S8: it and people will go, oh, it really doesn't look
- 13:25S8: like that, does it? Or, oh my gosh, I never
- 13:27S8: realized it was so bad. Or the look at things
- 13:30S8: with with a picture is, is the truth. And they'll say, oh,
- 13:35S8: I never even realized it until I actually put it
- 13:39S8: in and took a picture of this space, how bad
- 13:43S8: it really is.
- 13:44S7: What do you do then, Eileen? After you get a picture,
- 13:47S7: what do you do? But besides sitting down and and
- 13:50S7: grabbing a plate of Oreos. Because that's so discouraging. What
- 13:53S7: do you do?
- 13:54S8: Well, it's different for everybody, but here's just a couple
- 13:57S8: of really good pointers that you can start with. I
- 14:01S8: always say you can't do a whole room. You've got
- 14:04S8: to break it down into teeny tiny little, you know, places.
- 14:09S8: So I say, okay, so take a paper towel roll
- 14:13S8: and put it up to your eye and take one
- 14:17S8: little area of the corner of a room and whatever
- 14:20S8: is within that circle of that that you're looking through,
- 14:25S8: that's what you do. And they'll go, oh my gosh,
- 14:29S8: you mean I don't have to do all of this
- 14:31S8: wall or all.
- 14:32S9: Of this space?
- 14:33S8: And I go, no, you just start small because in Scripture,
- 14:38S8: God has this already covered. It's in Joshua when Joshua
- 14:44S8: goes and takes the land and that's what we're doing.
- 14:46S8: We're taking our land and he says, you can only
- 14:50S8: have it little by little. I'm giving it to you,
- 14:53S8: but you're going to have to fight for it. Good.
- 14:55S8: It's not just yours. You've got to fight for this,
- 14:58S8: but you have to do it little by little. And why?
- 15:03S8: Because the wild beasts will come in and devour everything
- 15:06S8: you've done. If you do it all at once.
- 15:09S7: Okay. What? What do you do next? You've looked through it.
- 15:12S7: You've seen it. You've got the big picture. Now you've
- 15:15S7: got the toilet paper roll. Love that picture. Now, what
- 15:18S7: do you do?
- 15:20S8: You set a timer. You only give yourself 10 or
- 15:23S8: 15 minutes a day. Now, why is that? Because this
- 15:27S8: is new. And this has gone to bombard you with
- 15:30S8: all kinds of thoughts and all kinds of emotions and
- 15:34S8: everything that you that you have not tackled before. So
- 15:38S8: you only want to do this 10 or 15 minutes
- 15:41S8: a day. But be consistent because you're building a habit,
- 15:46S8: you're building structure into your life that hasn't been there before.
- 15:50S8: So when you do this, little by little, it all
- 15:53S8: of a sudden becomes so motivating and you can begin
- 15:57S8: seeing the results that you've never seen before.
- 16:00S7: How do you determine, Eileen, what needs to be thrown out,
- 16:03S7: what needs to be given away, and what needs to
- 16:05S7: be held on to?
- 16:07S8: Well, the first thing I say is you can do
- 16:11S8: what I call a treasure hunt. Okay. You can go
- 16:14S8: around saying that small little area and pick up the
- 16:18S8: things that are most important to you. So that's your
- 16:20S8: treasure hunt for the day. Okay, so what wasn't picked
- 16:24S8: up is either something that is to be put into
- 16:28S8: the trash or being recycled responsibly. And the other one
- 16:32S8: is blessing, I call it don't have a donate bin,
- 16:37S8: then have what I call the blessing bin.
- 16:39S7: Oh, yes.
- 16:41S8: Everything that you have in your home. Everything. Everything God
- 16:49S8: has blessed you with. And if you're not being responsible
- 16:53S8: with the blessings that God has given to you, he's
- 16:57S8: looking to see, can you bless someone else with it?
- 17:02S7: Guys, you're listening to Eileen Cough right now and there
- 17:05S7: are some gold nuggets in here. And I have already
- 17:09S7: taken a look at her website and it is loaded
- 17:11S7: with content. So here's what I want you to do.
- 17:15S7: You want a Christ centered way to tackle what seems
- 17:19S7: to be impossible? We've got a plan for you. Eileen does,
- 17:23S7: I should say, text the word order to 800 555 7898.
- 17:31S7: One word order to 800 555 7898. You're going to
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- 18:05S3: I got the power.
- 18:06S7: That's it, that's it. I knew I had it in
- 18:08S7: there somewhere. Talking about getting it together all week long. Guys,
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- 19:12S7: Yeah. Love it. You know, and I think one of
- 19:15S7: the coolest things about that interview is just touching on
- 19:18S7: the theological. Yeah, studying God and seeing that he was
- 19:24S7: a God of order and organization. And that's, that's great
- 19:30S7: because we always want to begin from that point. Let's
- 19:33S7: let the Word of God direct us here.
- 19:35S2: Absolutely. And I love having that. The understanding of God's
- 19:39S2: character in that knowing we're created in the image of
- 19:43S2: God we talked about earlier this hour. Why does it
- 19:46S2: feel so good to have things clean and in order? Well,
- 19:50S2: we're made in his image, so when we understand him more,
- 19:53S2: we can understand some of these innate things within ourselves more.
- 19:56S7: Amen. Alright, get the show cast by texting show to
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- 20:08S7: on here. Young Thunder.
- 20:10S3: Where.
- 20:10S2: Are we going?
- 20:12S7: Well, the interesting thing is that we find ourselves maybe
- 20:16S7: in clutter. And what if I told you that there's
- 20:20S7: an emotional spiritual clutter that needs to be dealt with?
- 20:24S7: First and foremost, we're going to be tackling that aspect
- 20:28S7: of disorder coming up.
- 20:30S1: She's a Choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.
- 20:35S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
- 20:39S1: on Moody Radio.
- 20:41S7: There's a classic term that's used Young Thunder. You've heard
- 20:44S7: this one before. The issue is rarely the issue.
- 20:48S2: Yeah, and it said a lot because it's true. If
- 20:52S2: I'm walking around grumbling and maybe having some trouble controlling
- 20:57S2: my anger, it's probably not just because the guy in
- 21:00S2: front of me cut me off. There's probably something deeper
- 21:02S2: to that.
- 21:02S7: I mean, scripture's clear. What comes out of your mouth
- 21:05S7: is really a heart issue. And counselors say the presenting
- 21:09S7: issue often isn't the issue, because what presents itself is
- 21:13S7: often something a little bit deeper. Lori Davies with me
- 21:17S7: right now, former journalist, women's ministry director, and she's got
- 21:22S7: a handle on this thing called emotional hoarding, letting go
- 21:27S7: of the stuff that keeps you stuck. We've got a
- 21:30S7: whole week here of get it together, folks. And yet
- 21:33S7: there's no condemnation in this. What usually is the presenting issue?
- 21:38S7: That when you dig a little deeper, there's something emotional
- 21:41S7: going on. What do you say, Lori?
- 21:43S10: Yeah, that's a loaded question right out of the chute.
- 21:45S10: I think maybe we could pick on anger for a
- 21:48S10: minute since since you brought that up, you know, anger,
- 21:52S10: we often talk about it as a secondary emotion. So
- 21:57S10: when we talk about quote unquote hoarding anger, to your point,
- 22:02S10: what we're really hoarding is something deeper. It takes a
- 22:05S10: lot of courage to go kind of digging for that,
- 22:08S10: looking in our emotional closets, if you will, because often
- 22:11S10: what we find there underneath anger is grief or loneliness. Fear,
- 22:19S10: something that's much harder to express. Anger is easier to grab,
- 22:23S10: which is why when someone cuts you off in traffic,
- 22:25S10: you unload in anger. But yeah, to your point, there's
- 22:29S10: there's almost always something deeper.
- 22:32S7: Yeah, I'm, I'm loving this topic. I don't know that
- 22:35S7: we've ever gone after this. Um, you know, we can
- 22:39S7: think about organizationally stuff that you hoard, but your contention
- 22:45S7: is emotionally, if we don't offload and clean the shelves
- 22:49S7: of our heart, it's going to bite us in the
- 22:52S7: backside here. Bottom line. Right. Lori.
- 22:54S10: Yeah, that's a really clear bottom line. I mean, I
- 22:57S10: think emotionally hoarded hearts are an awful lot like physically
- 23:04S10: hoarded homes. There's only so much space. And at a
- 23:09S10: certain point in a hoarded home, for example, entire rooms
- 23:13S10: stopped working the way they were designed to, to work.
- 23:18S10: You know, you can't make dinner in the kitchen anymore
- 23:20S10: because there's stuff stacked everywhere. So it's the same in
- 23:24S10: an emotionally hoarded heart, you know, entire areas of our
- 23:27S10: heart Stop working right. If we don't, let the Lord
- 23:31S10: be Lord over everything in there.
- 23:35S7: Uh, Lori. So let's, let's even back up a little
- 23:39S7: bit more. What is emotional hoarding?
- 23:44S10: Yeah, that's a great question. I think we're all familiar
- 23:46S10: with emotional baggage, right? Right. So when we use that term,
- 23:50S10: we're generally talking about, um un processed undealt with difficult emotions.
- 23:57S10: And so this emotional hoarding, this concept kind of takes
- 24:00S10: that up a notch because this is now we're getting
- 24:04S10: into emotions that we have allowed to accumulate. Sometimes we
- 24:09S10: do that willingly. You know, we like holding on to grudges,
- 24:15S10: which the emotion attached to that is bitterness. Sometimes we
- 24:19S10: do it in sort of a self-preservation way, right? Like
- 24:23S10: we learned patterns in childhood. We learned to say sorry
- 24:27S10: for things that maybe weren't our fault. So now we
- 24:30S10: struggle with false guilt. And sometimes we think we should
- 24:33S10: hold on. If we hold on to that shame that'll
- 24:37S10: keep us from relapsing into sin. So there's a variety
- 24:41S10: of reasons why we hold on. But this idea of
- 24:44S10: emotional hoarding is emotional accumulation.
- 24:48S7: How many people are emotionally hoarding because they don't want
- 24:53S7: to let someone else off the hook?
- 24:56S10: Oh, man. Well, all of us maybe.
- 24:58S7: Yeah, I think probably 100% right at some level.
- 25:02S10: Yeah, at some point in our lives. Actually, I like
- 25:05S10: that question a lot because one of the things that
- 25:07S10: surprised me when I was researching this book. Emotional hoarding
- 25:11S10: was that statistically, at any given time, each of us
- 25:16S10: is holding on to seven grudges.
- 25:20S11: Wow. Wow.
- 25:21S7: There's science on this.
- 25:23S10: There's science. And actually, I said that at a retreat
- 25:26S10: last weekend. And, you know, there were a couple women
- 25:29S10: seated near the front that were kind of like making
- 25:31S10: the facial expression. I'm not holding a grudge. And to
- 25:35S10: that I said, and if you feel like you have
- 25:38S10: a clean slate, you're not a grudge holder. You forgive easily.
- 25:41S10: That's great news. But that means the woman next to
- 25:43S10: you is holding grudges.
- 25:46S7: And the one you've thought that is. It isn't true anyway. Um.
- 25:50S10: Right. Yeah.
- 25:52S7: So if you're going to not emotionally hoard grudges, what's
- 25:57S7: God planned to deal with them? And I'm not talking
- 26:00S7: about all out bitterness, I'm just talking about grudges because
- 26:03S7: those can be nagging and weighty, can't they?
- 26:07S10: Yeah, I think I think it takes a little bit
- 26:10S10: of courage to look in the mirror and say, you know,
- 26:14S10: I'm holding on to this and I like how it feels. Yeah.
- 26:20S10: So I think that's a good starting point. But I
- 26:24S10: think it just takes a you know, when Jesus said,
- 26:27S10: carry your cross daily. I used to think that meant
- 26:31S10: just check marks on a reading plan. I think this
- 26:34S10: is the kind of stuff he was talking about. Lay
- 26:38S10: it down. It's not worth the cost.
- 26:41S7: Laura Davies is my guest right now. Coming up here
- 26:44S7: in a moment. Let's get. We can't unpack all of
- 26:47S7: it because you've written on it extensively, but let's give
- 26:50S7: some basic steps of how you identify emotional hoarding and
- 26:56S7: how you begin to offload it more with my guest,
- 26:58S7: Laura Davies, straight ahead.
- 27:00S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 27:03S7: Laura Davies with me right now, she's the author of
- 27:06S7: a brand new book, and we're going to feature this
- 27:09S7: in just a moment. But one of the cool things,
- 27:12S7: and when I say brand new, I'm talking this month, guys,
- 27:15S7: one of the cool things that we're tackling here today
- 27:17S7: that I don't think we've ever gotten after this directly
- 27:19S7: is emotional hoarding. How do you help people identify whether
- 27:24S7: they're hoarding really bad emotions? Because not all emotions are bad.
- 27:28S7: By the way, but how do you help people identify
- 27:31S7: if they're doing that?
- 27:32S10: Each chapter in emotional hoarding deals with an emotion. And
- 27:38S10: so in each chapter, there's kind of a cheat sheet on, hey,
- 27:42S10: this might be building up in you if a, b, c, d, e. Um,
- 27:48S10: so globally 10,000 foot view, I would say we can
- 27:51S10: tell we're emotional hoarders if we're ruminating on something, think
- 27:55S10: about it all the time. Or if we're completely avoiding
- 27:59S10: it going the opposite direction, like you've heard the euphemism,
- 28:03S10: you know, just sweeping things under the rug.
- 28:05S7: Yes.
- 28:06S10: So one way or the other, a lot of this
- 28:08S10: stuff shows up in our physiology. You know, we're not
- 28:11S10: sleeping well. Our tummies hurt. Um, so there are those
- 28:17S10: kind of global symptoms, but then in each chapter I
- 28:20S10: look at, well, what happens if worthlessness has built up
- 28:25S10: in you? What are the symptoms of that? Same with fear.
- 28:29S10: Same with worry. Same with bitterness. We've already hit on.
- 28:34S10: So I think the reader will kind of be able
- 28:38S10: to look step by step at, hey, this. This might
- 28:42S10: have built up and I didn't even see it.
- 28:44S7: So let's take a big one. Let's take the emotion
- 28:47S7: of bitterness over betrayal. Okay, let's just go after that one.
- 28:52S7: If I walk into you and I say, and by
- 28:54S7: the way, this is women and men, everybody struggles with this.
- 28:58S7: But let's say I walk in you and go, Lori.
- 29:00S7: All right, here's the deal. I was burned by a buddy,
- 29:06S7: and that betrayal hurts. And the reason it's betrayal is
- 29:09S7: because he was a buddy, right? You don't you don't
- 29:11S7: feel betrayed by the guy on the street that calls
- 29:13S7: you an idiot. So I was betrayed. Now I've got
- 29:17S7: this emotion that I'm holding on to or hoarding. How
- 29:21S7: do I let it go?
- 29:22S10: Well, first you have to identify it. We can't fix
- 29:25S10: what we won't name. So I think take inventory first.
- 29:29S10: Are you consumed with negativity toward that person? Do you
- 29:33S10: not like it? If something good happens to that person.
- 29:37S7: Oh good one.
- 29:39S10: Do you keep tabs on that person not letting them
- 29:42S10: out of your life? Like, do you do you kind
- 29:44S10: of check their social media all the time? Um, do
- 29:47S10: you feel irritated if their name comes up? So I
- 29:49S10: think first we have to look at is this has
- 29:53S10: this built up in me? And then for the letting go,
- 29:57S10: I think there has to be a movement toward, Lord,
- 30:01S10: I'm willing to start this process of forgiveness. You know,
- 30:04S10: the the dad in Mark nine, the dad who says,
- 30:09S10: I believe, Lord, help my unbelief. I think we kind
- 30:12S10: of start the same process with forgiveness. Like, Lord, I
- 30:15S10: forgive all my unforgiveness And we enter that process of,
- 30:21S10: of understanding that bitterness isn't going to get us closer
- 30:24S10: to Christ. It's not going to get us closer to people.
- 30:27S10: And in the end, it's just not worth the toll
- 30:30S10: that it takes on our hearts.
- 30:33S7: What's the blue sky vision here? Lori. Lori Davies, my guest,
- 30:37S7: by the way, author of this new book, Emotional Hoarding.
- 30:39S7: I'm going to have a link for you here in
- 30:40S7: just a moment, not only to the book but to
- 30:42S7: her site. So it's going to be a cool, cool
- 30:45S7: link here. But what's the blue sky vision? What are
- 30:48S7: we aiming for? How do you I mean, come on,
- 30:51S7: put a carrot out there. What are we going after here?
- 30:54S10: Freedom. Freedom is our target. I think if we're looking
- 30:59S10: essentially at what happens when things stack up, we're talking
- 31:02S10: about grudges. Maybe dread around secrets, regrets, fear when all
- 31:09S10: of that stuff compounds. Well, that starts to sound like
- 31:12S10: a life of bondage.
- 31:13S11: Yeah.
- 31:14S10: That's exactly where the enemy wants us to.
- 31:19S7: Here it is, guys. Boom! Crew, we want to get
- 31:21S7: this in your hands. Text the word stuck. It's called
- 31:24S7: emotional hoarding. Letting go of the stuff that keeps you stuck.
- 31:28S7: Just text the word stuck to 805, five, five, 78, 98,
- 31:34S7: 805 five, five, 7898. You're going to find two links
- 31:40S7: embedded there. Use them both and watch God work in
- 31:43S7: your life. Freedom is the goal. Text the word stuck
- 31:46S7: to 800 555 78, 98.
- 31:52S1: Get to know the team behind the scenes. Follow Carl
- 31:55S1: and crew on Facebook and Instagram.
- 31:58S7: Yeah man, what a day. What a day. You know
- 32:02S7: what today is?
- 32:04S2: What's today?
- 32:05S3: I know.
- 32:06S7: What's today.
- 32:07S12: Saint Patrick's day.
- 32:08S7: It sure is.
- 32:09S2: Oh.
- 32:09S3: Is it?
- 32:10S12: Are you wearing green? Oh, no you're not. I don't
- 32:12S12: think any of us know. I'm sorry about all of
- 32:14S12: us going. Scoring. Well, there you go.
- 32:17S7: So what did you know about super? I nailed it.
- 32:21S7: What did you know about Saint Patrick's Day? I knew
- 32:24S7: one thing as a kid growing up.
- 32:26S3: Was that.
- 32:27S7: You got to wear green.
- 32:28S2: Gotta wear green or you get pinched.
- 32:30S12: That was about it. Yeah.
- 32:31S7: And then as I got older, I learned one other
- 32:34S7: thing about Saint Patrick's Day.
- 32:36S2: What's that?
- 32:37S7: You know, it's a day for drinking.
- 32:40S3: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Pubs are.
- 32:43S7: Flowing and.
- 32:44S3: Green.
- 32:45S7: Beer and all that stuff.
- 32:46S3: Yeah.
- 32:47S7: You know, it's interesting. Um, it's interesting how we have
- 32:53S7: to be careful with history or else great legacies can
- 32:57S7: be lost. Right, guys?
- 32:58S3: Very true.
- 32:59S12: Yeah.
- 33:00S7: I was thinking about this last night. And this morning
- 33:03S7: as I was working on a project of Saint Patrick, who,
- 33:08S7: by the way, 300 find out his birth date. I
- 33:12S7: don't actually have that. I think we've got it pinned
- 33:14S7: down somewhere. But he was taken as a slave. Uh,
- 33:22S7: to Ireland when he was 16 years old, guys. And
- 33:26S7: he worked alone in the cold. And he was raised
- 33:30S7: in a Christian home. But as often is the case,
- 33:35S7: he was Christian in name only when he was taken
- 33:37S7: as a slave. But then God got a hold of
- 33:41S7: him in the middle of the day, middle of the night, cold, alone, hurting.
- 33:49S7: And boy did did God do a work in his life.
- 33:54S7: Saint Patrick is one of the most extraordinary guys going,
- 33:58S7: one of the most extraordinary guys going. And we're going
- 34:03S7: to do something really fun here this half hour. We're
- 34:07S7: going to reach back and I want you to I
- 34:10S7: don't care if it's Kelly. I don't care if it's
- 34:13S7: Brother Lawrence. I don't care who it is. But if
- 34:17S7: you want to champion one of the greats of old
- 34:24S7: and give us a quick snapshot about their life in
- 34:28S7: like 3 or 4 sentences, somebody who's dead and gone,
- 34:33S7: maybe long dead and gone, and you want to get
- 34:36S7: a snapshot of their life. Maybe you just know a
- 34:38S7: few things about them and have read their writings. Maybe
- 34:41S7: it's a watchman nee, for instance, who was, uh, passed
- 34:45S7: away in 1972 in prison in China, 20 years incarcerated
- 34:51S7: for his faith, was given an opportunity to come to America.
- 34:55S7: I mean, there's another one, right? Wow.
- 34:58S2: Great legacy.
- 34:59S7: The problem with Saint Patrick is that what got lost
- 35:02S7: in this thing is you got to wear green or
- 35:05S7: it's a day for drinking, right? And the dude had
- 35:09S7: so much more than that. Let me tell you how
- 35:12S7: much more I have got a link for you that
- 35:18S7: is going to take you to a post that I
- 35:20S7: made about Saint Patrick. It's not fully exhaustive, but it's
- 35:24S7: got quotes from his quote confession, which is a great writing,
- 35:30S7: and it tells the story of Saint Patrick. So I'm
- 35:33S7: going to let you read it first. Then I'm going
- 35:35S7: to expand on it a little bit for this next
- 35:37S7: 30 minutes. But we're going to take your calls as well.
- 35:40S7: But I want you to grab this. We need to
- 35:44S7: reclaim the legacy of Saint Patrick today. Put a stake
- 35:49S7: in the ground and go, no, this is who this
- 35:51S7: guy was. And what a rich man of faith. I
- 35:55S7: can't wait to meet Saint Patrick. My goodness. And by
- 36:00S7: the way, we don't pray to him. Saint Patrick wouldn't
- 36:02S7: have wanted that. Oh, wait. We got one mediator between
- 36:06S7: God and man, and his name is Jesus. Yeah, but boy,
- 36:10S7: what a life, what a life, what a legacy, what courage.
- 36:15S7: And it was forged in faith. Responsible for. I can't
- 36:19S7: hold myself back. Responsible for baptizing thousands upon thousands of
- 36:24S7: people in Ireland. Went back to the very people that
- 36:28S7: had taken them captive. Even though God had delivered him.
- 36:32S7: He heard in a vision the the voice of people
- 36:36S7: of Ireland saying, come back here, boy, you who were
- 36:40S7: rich in faith, come back to us. And he did it.
- 36:44S7: Risk of death at every corner. So just text the
- 36:48S7: word pat p a t not saint, not Patrick, just
- 36:54S7: pat to 800 555 7898. I want you to get
- 37:00S7: a real taste of Saint Patrick's Day, and I've just
- 37:04S7: got the Cliff's Notes there. And then at the end
- 37:06S7: of this post, I've got a few little takeaways for you.
- 37:09S7: Text the word pat p a t to 800 555 7898.
- 37:17S7: One word pat to 800 555 7898. Today we're going
- 37:25S7: to reclaim the legacy of Saint Patrick. What a fun
- 37:29S7: thing to do on Saint Patrick's Day.
- 37:30S12: Man, I love this, I really do, I really do.
- 37:34S2: Let's make it more than just.
- 37:35S3: A day.
- 37:35S2: For partying.
- 37:36S12: And green, you know?
- 37:37S3: Yeah, I mean, yeah.
- 37:39S7: Dye the river green. That's okay. By the way, I
- 37:41S7: didn't know that in the in in the river downtown Chicago.
- 37:46S7: I didn't know it only took double check me on
- 37:48S7: this one. I thought I misheard and maybe I did,
- 37:52S7: but £40 or something of this dye. That can't be,
- 37:56S7: can it? Anyway, forget Diane Rivers or drinking green beer.
- 38:02S7: Text the word pat to 800 555 7898. Got a
- 38:07S7: link for you that's going to take you to a
- 38:09S7: post that I made that's reclaiming this great legacy. One
- 38:14S7: word Pat p a t to 800 555 7898. And
- 38:20S7: coming up, we're going to flashback, reclaim a ton of
- 38:24S7: legacies in the next 30 minutes is going to be
- 38:26S7: a fun little exercise, isn't it guys.
- 38:28S3: I.
- 38:28S2: Can't.
- 38:28S3: Wait.
- 38:29S12: Looking forward to.
- 38:29S3: It.
- 38:31S1: Hang on your shot of hope to help you through
- 38:34S1: the day. This is Karl and crew on Moody Radio.
- 38:39S7: Who invented that beer drinking garbage about Saint Patrick's?
- 38:42S3: I don't know. Here's how.
- 38:44S7: Here's how it happened. It actually happened with the Irish
- 38:47S7: immigrants to America because they wanted to keep their culture strong.
- 38:50S7: They felt very alienated. You talk about a persecuted group
- 38:54S7: of people. When the Irish came stateside here, they were
- 38:57S7: looked down upon big time. So there was a desire
- 39:01S7: to keep that culture alive and they turned it into
- 39:04S7: a festival and then it just kind of slid downhill
- 39:07S7: into green beer and green rivers, and you got to
- 39:10S7: wear green or you get pinched. Yeah, but what a
- 39:13S7: bummer if it stayed there.
- 39:15S2: Yeah, I mean, we had it. This is not the
- 39:18S2: first time we've seen people or holidays that are honored
- 39:22S2: for something noble or, or Christ like. Take Christmas for example.
- 39:27S2: And then it's turned into like, well, we got Santa
- 39:29S2: Claus and he gives gifts and presents and he comes
- 39:32S2: down your chimney and eats your cookies and milk. And
- 39:34S2: it's like, well.
- 39:34S3: Yeah, and.
- 39:35S7: Santa is cool.
- 39:36S3: Santa.
- 39:36S2: I don't, I ain't got no problem with.
- 39:38S3: Santa, but.
- 39:39S7: Christ is.
- 39:41S3: Better.
- 39:42S7: Central.
- 39:43S2: Yes.
- 39:43S7: So the birth of the savior of the world.
- 39:46S2: Yeah. You gotta have that.
- 39:47S3: Yeah.
- 39:48S2: So yeah, no, I yeah, we lose the we lose
- 39:51S2: the point sometimes on some of these things. It's good
- 39:54S2: to go back and reclaim and understand what these things
- 39:58S2: are really about.
- 39:59S3: Yeah.
- 40:00S7: So text the word pat and, uh, I've got the
- 40:04S7: whole story. Not the whole story, but I got the
- 40:06S7: high points of Saint Patrick's life. It'll blow your mind.
- 40:09S7: It'll blow the circuits. You're going to find out how
- 40:12S7: the shamrock is more than a shake. It was used
- 40:15S7: to explain the Holy Trinity. That's what he used it for.
- 40:18S2: That's crazy. The Shamrock shake, man. I remember when I
- 40:22S2: worked at McDonald's. Shamrock Shake big. Obviously someone came in
- 40:26S2: and ordered over 200 small Shamrock shakes.
- 40:31S3: Not joking.
- 40:32S2: For a big party, they were having.
- 40:35S12: A joke or something.
- 40:36S2: Okay, it was a real thing. We put them in
- 40:38S2: cardboard boxes because they had no other way to carry them.
- 40:40S3: All right.
- 40:40S7: We're going to have some fun here. Right now. We're
- 40:42S7: not talking Shamrock Shakes here. I can't imagine how many
- 40:46S7: chemicals were in those suckers a lot. Oh. When? When
- 40:50S7: you buy stuff in in. It's designed to melt, but
- 40:53S7: it doesn't. It just gets hard.
- 40:55S2: It gets hard. It doesn't.
- 40:57S3: Get hard.
- 40:58S7: No, I mean, cheap ice cream doesn't melt. It just
- 41:00S7: sits there and kind of coagulates. I mean, it melts
- 41:04S7: a little. No, I'm not kidding you guys. I know
- 41:07S7: I'm going crazy here.
- 41:09S3: I know.
- 41:09S12: But I'm like.
- 41:10S3: Oh, I love it.
- 41:12S7: If you want to hear about Saint Patrick, text the
- 41:14S7: word Pat to our number here, man, I've got it
- 41:16S7: laid out for you in bullet format with some takeaways
- 41:19S7: at the end and, uh, follow along guys. Text Pat
- 41:24S7: to 800 555 7898 800 555 7898. Okay. This leads
- 41:31S7: to a phenomenal discussion. Do you know how many stories
- 41:35S7: of greats that have gone before us, that lived these
- 41:38S7: incredible lives? And some of you have read about them
- 41:41S7: recently or, and there's myriad of these. I mean, you
- 41:45S7: take Kelly, the Quaker. I love his writings. You take, uh,
- 41:49S7: watchman nee surprised by the spirit. Is that is that. Yeah.
- 41:55S7: That's watchman nee uh, you take I mean, the list
- 41:59S7: goes on and on. We did this earlier this morning.
- 42:01S7: Early this morning Chuck Colson came up. Beautiful man. I
- 42:05S7: mean there's greats out there. So I'm asking you to
- 42:08S7: call and in 2 to 3 sentences talk about the greats.
- 42:14S7: And these are not I'm not looking for family members necessarily.
- 42:17S7: I'm looking for these historic figures that are maybe somewhat
- 42:21S7: obscure to the modern mind. But man, they've got a
- 42:25S7: their life is a story to tell. And in 3
- 42:27S7: or 4 sentences, share it. Give us a call 800
- 42:31S7: 555 7898. Give us a call right now. Light it up.
- 42:36S7: 800 555 7898.
- 42:41S1: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to
- 42:45S1: Carl and Cru.
- 42:47S7: Yeah, man, we're just taking your stories here. I want
- 42:50S7: you to think about this one for a moment. Boom Cru,
- 42:52S7: think about the people that have gone before us. And
- 42:56S7: I'm not I'm not. I want to be specific here.
- 42:58S7: I'm actually looking for people who have gone on to
- 43:01S7: their reward. These are spiritual greats that have gone on
- 43:04S7: to their reward. And think about their lives. Uh, Young Thunder,
- 43:09S7: you were mentioning Elizabeth Elliot, and that's my wife's love language.
- 43:12S7: How about you?
- 43:13S12: Super day. I mean, without a doubt, Billy Graham was
- 43:15S12: the first one that popped into my head. Yeah, without
- 43:18S12: a doubt. I mean, the most prominent. I mean, come on.
- 43:20S12: Evangelist of the 20th century, another C.S. Lewis. Yeah. His writings.
- 43:24S12: Come on. Yeah. Big time.
- 43:26S3: Yeah.
- 43:26S7: Good stuff, good stuff. So we're taking your calls here.
- 43:30S7: Let's celebrate the lives and legacy of those that have
- 43:33S7: gone before us here. It's an awesome thing to look
- 43:36S7: back at these lives. I mean, I, I think about
- 43:39S7: Watchman Nee. I don't know if there are any other
- 43:41S7: watchman nee fans out there.
- 43:43S2: I, I did not know about Watchman Nee until you
- 43:46S2: had talked about him.
- 43:46S3: Oh my goodness.
- 43:48S12: With Jonathan.
- 43:49S2: And I love the story. I they offered him the
- 43:53S2: opportunity to stay alive if he just would leave the country.
- 43:59S7: China?
- 43:59S2: Yeah. China. And he said, no, I'm not gonna do it.
- 44:02S2: This is this is where God has called me to be.
- 44:05S2: They kept him in prison. And for years he faced
- 44:08S2: so much persecution and hardship and eventually died there. But
- 44:12S2: I couldn't believe it. It was a great story of
- 44:14S2: his and faithfulness.
- 44:15S7: It's phenomenal for sure. Samantha in Miami, Florida. What do
- 44:19S7: you say, Samantha?
- 44:22S13: Hello. Um, I'm very inspired by Horatio Spafford. Um, despite
- 44:27S13: all the hardship that he went through, he continued to
- 44:31S13: be a great man of God and used everything he
- 44:34S13: went through to spread the gospel.
- 44:36S7: You got that right.
- 44:38S13: Having gone to Israel and established, uh, churches and outreach there, he, uh,
- 44:43S13: he did a lot of his work is still, uh,
- 44:46S13: there shining through the through the darkness.
- 44:49S3: Yeah.
- 44:49S7: Big time. Amazing. Grace. Right?
- 44:51S2: Horatio Spafford uh, it is well, with my soul.
- 44:54S7: It is well with my soul. That's right. Yeah, it
- 44:57S7: is well with my soul.
- 44:58S3: He wrote that following the great Chicago Fire.
- 45:01S2: I didn't know that.
- 45:02S3: Yeah.
- 45:03S7: Really?
- 45:04S2: Yeah. It was it was in follow up to the
- 45:06S2: Great Chicago Fire.
- 45:08S3: I did not know that.
- 45:09S2: And the deaths of his four daughters on a transatlantic
- 45:12S2: voyage aboard the S.S. Harvey.
- 45:16S7: Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's, uh, you might want to
- 45:21S7: tee that one up here.
- 45:22S3: Yeah, you got it here.
- 45:24S7: My.
- 45:24S3: Man.
- 45:25S7: Yeah. It is. Well, with my soul. MM. Good stuff. So,
- 45:30S7: what do you say? Boom! Crew. Who is that person
- 45:33S7: that has gone before us? And they left a legacy
- 45:39S7: that's so incredibly powerful. 805, five five, 78, 98, 800
- 45:47S7: 555 7898. We'll get back to your phone calls here
- 45:53S7: in just a moment.
- 45:55S1: Romans eight brought her to Jesus while broadcasting traffic overnight.
- 45:59S1: Super di is in the crew. It's curl and crew
- 46:03S1: on Moody Radio.
- 46:05S7: Man, we got a lot of feedback coming in here
- 46:07S7: right now. This is beautiful. Who's that great. That's gone
- 46:10S7: before us that we can't leave and lose the legacy.
- 46:13S7: By the way, I've been spiking this on the heels
- 46:14S7: of Saint Patrick, Saint Patrick's Day. Who's Saint Patrick? I'll
- 46:19S7: tell you who he is. He's one of the great
- 46:22S7: heroes of the faith. Born around 385 A.D..
- 46:26S3: That's right.
- 46:26S7: Wrote a book, confessions, and where he articulated the story.
- 46:31S7: I've put like six, seven quotes with a bulleted life
- 46:35S7: story of everything you need to know about Saint Patrick today.
- 46:39S7: And I'm getting some responses on this. People are going,
- 46:42S7: I never knew this story. This is why we got
- 46:44S7: to spread the word, guys. So text the word pat
- 46:48S7: to 800 555 7898. Just the word pat to 800
- 46:55S7: 555 7898. Going back to the phone lines, grabbing these heroes, Pete. Kenosha, Wisconsin.
- 47:02S7: What do you say, Pete?
- 47:04S14: Hey, good morning guys. Uh, the person that comes to
- 47:07S14: mind for me is Phil Robertson from the Duck Commanders. Yeah.
- 47:11S14: Before you laugh, that was a man who was a sinful,
- 47:15S14: sinful person early on in his life, gave his life
- 47:18S14: to Christ and became an ambassador. Everything he did was
- 47:23S14: for God and about God, and he wanted that for everyone.
- 47:27S7: I had him on air here before he went on
- 47:29S7: to his reward, bro. And was he bringing the heat? Guys,
- 47:32S7: you remember that interview?
- 47:34S12: I do remember that interview. Yeah.
- 47:36S2: He was an incredible man.
- 47:37S7: Incredible man of God. Way to go, Pete. Appreciate you
- 47:40S7: mentioning Phil Robertson, Jeanette and Florida. What do you say, Jeanette?
- 47:45S15: Uh, uh, Doctor Barkham, he was instrumental, especially with the homeschool.
- 47:53S15: and he lived the life. He was such a such
- 47:59S15: an apologetic for the Lord. And he went home to
- 48:03S15: be with the Lord last year. And it's just such a.
- 48:08S15: You know, I believe he left such a dent. Yeah.
- 48:12S15: When it comes to, uh, being a good apologetic and
- 48:18S15: especially for the, for the home school because he had
- 48:22S15: about 13 kids and he lived what he, what he ministered.
- 48:26S7: Yeah. I knew a little bit about that home. Go ahead. Jeanette.
- 48:31S15: Yeah. Um, not a lot of people know about him,
- 48:34S15: but if you listen to some of his message when
- 48:37S15: it comes to the family raising kids. Yeah. And just
- 48:41S15: for even the modern day, the deception we're facing. He
- 48:46S15: spoke out boldly.
- 48:48S7: He did. Jeanette, let me tell you what I want
- 48:50S7: to speak on. He was one of the clearest gospel
- 48:53S7: preachers you will ever hear. I can find him online.
- 48:57S7: YouTube clips, shorts, reels are all over the place. We
- 49:01S7: are so grateful for this testimony. We've got Elizabeth Elliott
- 49:05S7: came in here from Newton, Mississippi. We've got others coming in.
- 49:11S7: We aren't.
- 49:11S3: Going to.
- 49:11S12: Be able.
- 49:12S7: George Mueller was featured here. Wow, what a good thing.
- 49:16S7: It's a good thing to look at these great men
- 49:20S7: and women of faith that have gone before us and
- 49:23S7: reclaim their legacy. Man. It matters. It really does. You
- 49:28S7: want to learn about Saint Patrick? Text the word pat
- 49:31S7: right now. I've written in a very short post what
- 49:36S7: you need to know about Saint Patrick that is not
- 49:38S7: commonly known about him. It might rock you. Text Pat
- 49:42S7: to (800) 555-7898 one word. Pat to (800) 555-7898.