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Girls Girling: Nightlife (Bonus) · Like a Virgin

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of being bleeped. It sounds so chic,
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Speaker 1: Hi gay not that. No, no, no, we've beaten that
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Speaker 1: joke to death. It must stop. Likes that's better. Hello,
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Speaker 1: my fellow trans is um, yeah, I I feel like that.
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Speaker 1: I love Meg's daughter. She's amazing and also this new
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Speaker 1: season of Hacks like very fun to watch her. You know. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we are not talking about any media because peeling back
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Speaker 1: the curtain a little bit on the real lives of
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Speaker 1: myself and Ms Frangela Toronto Angela, we are spending them
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Speaker 1: on apart frants in New York. I'm still in Los Angeles,
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's pride and we should be closer
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Speaker 1: than ever. So we decided that, you know, we wanted
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Speaker 1: to spend a little time together catching up over zoom
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Speaker 1: and figured like, why not record it and make content
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Speaker 1: out of it since that is what we've done with
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Speaker 1: our entire relationship. Well, you know, obviously we protect a
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Speaker 1: lot of our friendship as well, but like, this is
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Speaker 1: a moment where we're like, as a gift to the virgins,
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Speaker 1: we want to bestow on you because it's a pride gift.
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Speaker 1: And we talked about like what this could look like,
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Speaker 1: and we mutually agreed. Even though I violated the agreement immediately,
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Speaker 1: we mutually agreed that this would be a non news discussion.
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Speaker 1: This is a key, Okay, this is we are just
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Speaker 1: like two sisters catching up talking about our lives in
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Speaker 1: a way that is very different from the other podcast
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Speaker 1: in which we usually catch up and talk about our lives. Yeah, exactly. Well,
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Speaker 1: the thing about having a key is, UM, you have
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Speaker 1: to like go out and do stuff so you can
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Speaker 1: later talk about it. And that's going to be really
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Speaker 1: a bit of it. Make it. I didn't say it.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be the one to say it, but
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Speaker 1: you hope that you it was implied because it wasn't fled.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't fling. But like I, thankfully, thankfully, I've had
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Speaker 1: a very eventful week emotionally saying saying I And we're
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Speaker 1: also in UM. This is usually the time when I
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Speaker 1: would be in therapy. So I'm going to use this
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Speaker 1: as an excuse to um, you know, pour out personally
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Speaker 1: details for thousands of people to listen. Yes, I'm happy
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Speaker 1: to be your therapist. This is a lovely update in
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Speaker 1: our relationship. Can we talk about the power of adderall
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Speaker 1: because so I'm trying to find a psychiatrist because like
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Speaker 1: I've been feeling very unfocused. I'm working on a book
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Speaker 1: right now, and I need an adderall prescription. Hopefully none
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Speaker 1: of my potential psychiatrists are listening to this podcast, and
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Speaker 1: we'll know that. I've been getting m P and France
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Speaker 1: to give me uh samples, a sample sample, And the
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Speaker 1: other day I slammed an adderall. And when I tell you,
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Speaker 1: I have never felt I mean obviously like I've used
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Speaker 1: adderall before. I by vans like everything, but I forgot
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Speaker 1: just the power of like when you have something you
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Speaker 1: need to get done, taking an adderall and just like
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Speaker 1: sitting down and just fucking blowing through it and knowing
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Speaker 1: the whole time that you were a genius. Genius. No
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Speaker 1: one in the world is more creatively talented than I was.
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Speaker 1: I was like, right, I was writing a couple of
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Speaker 1: chapters of the book I'm working on, and as I
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Speaker 1: was writing, I was like speaking it and like typing
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Speaker 1: the words. That's like a good process for me. And
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Speaker 1: when I would finish a chapter, I would like read
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Speaker 1: it all back and I'd be like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: you are fucking Joan Didian, you are jk rowling like
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Speaker 1: you are. It isn't it amazing when you use adderall
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Speaker 1: for it's like defined purpose as opposed to, you know,
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Speaker 1: recreationally like snorting it at parties. Well, the first time,
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Speaker 1: the first time I ever did adderall was also the
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Speaker 1: first I ever did cocaine, which you chicely hate. I
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Speaker 1: hate cocaine, But the first time I ever did both
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Speaker 1: of them. I was in college and there was this
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Speaker 1: kid I went to school with who did have an
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Speaker 1: overdose our first semester of college. He survived, but one
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Speaker 1: night he just like came over to my dorm room.
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Speaker 1: We lived across the hall from each other. It was like,
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Speaker 1: do you want to do cocaine? And I was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: I've never done it before. And so we did a
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Speaker 1: bunch of lines of cocaine and mixed with adderall, and
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Speaker 1: then he put on these ruby slipper platform shoes that
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Speaker 1: he had and we just walked around the block that
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Speaker 1: our dorm was on for like six hours. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: that is honestly, that makes me nervous. I I I
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Speaker 1: don't even know the first time I took adderall. It
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Speaker 1: was actually my prescription adderall, so I don't have like
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Speaker 1: a kind of crazy story, but I'm trying to think
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Speaker 1: up the first time I did cocaine, I did feel
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Speaker 1: like my heart was going to explode, which I also
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Speaker 1: the summer Out for Local original recipe existed when it
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Speaker 1: was when it was like before before they literally had
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Speaker 1: to change the formula because it was getting people like
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Speaker 1: too drunk into hype. My friends and I used to
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Speaker 1: like slam to four locals into an eight ball of
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Speaker 1: cocaine just to like go out or just like hang
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Speaker 1: out and like talk. And you know when you do that,
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Speaker 1: like that cocaine talk where you're like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: I love you. See, we are the best friends in
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Speaker 1: the world. We're gonna be friends until our nine You
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Speaker 1: are my sister Molly talk. But also a little coke talk.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's it's fast talk. It's fast talking. You're
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Speaker 1: just like exchanging ideas very fear ferociously, like sitting in
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Speaker 1: someone's bedroom lit by a single like lamp and just
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Speaker 1: talking about like rolling in the deep which would just
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Speaker 1: come out um and talking about it for like eight hours.
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Speaker 1: I think the first time I ever did coke was
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Speaker 1: at the Diamond Tor shoe and they used to do
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Speaker 1: this amazing plub kid party that I can't remember the name. Yes,
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Speaker 1: pretty ugly. That was, like, I mean, this is back
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Speaker 1: when I really was I did count myself amongst a
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Speaker 1: class of men who date men um and that really
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Speaker 1: it really was like a fucking men party, but they
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Speaker 1: were at least like clubs. That was also when I
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Speaker 1: counted myself as a class of men. Yes, not multile
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Speaker 1: not multi level marketing schemes, but mm um yeah, but
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Speaker 1: I I I think I remember really loving that party
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Speaker 1: because you know, we got to turn looks and like that.
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Speaker 1: The looks were like really really good. But I think
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Speaker 1: the venue is no longer called the Diamond Horseshoe. It's
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Speaker 1: called like the Samsung Galaxy Arena or something stupid like
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Speaker 1: the Yeah, every iconic venue is slowly going to be
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Speaker 1: turned into you know, cryptocurrency dot com or whatever. Like
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Speaker 1: every single venue is getting like you know, they get
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Speaker 1: bought by a corporation with a really ugly name that
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Speaker 1: you don't want to have to say all the time
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Speaker 1: when you say meet me at the zok doc you
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Speaker 1: know bar or whatever. I mean, that's why nightlife has
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Speaker 1: changed so much, because like At the time when I
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Speaker 1: was working in nightlife and was throwing parties, it was
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Speaker 1: a time when there were a lot of venues and
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Speaker 1: there were all these d i y spaces that you
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Speaker 1: could rent for a night if you like had you know,
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Speaker 1: a couple of thousand dollars and you could throw like
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Speaker 1: a disgusting you know, queer rave at. And now like
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Speaker 1: if you want to throw parties on that scale, like
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Speaker 1: they have to be a level of like corpora tized. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and exactly it's and people getting paid, like like club
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Speaker 1: kids like submitting W two's to get paid. And let
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Speaker 1: me tell you, getting club kids to submit W two's,
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Speaker 1: I can tell you from experience impossible. Getting a drag
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Speaker 1: queen to fill out one single form. You might as
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Speaker 1: well like she might as well be dead. Like it's
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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen for you, Um, but that
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Speaker 1: is it really does. That's something that really sucks about nightlife,
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Speaker 1: the gentrification of nightlife, the kind of collapse of financial
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Speaker 1: infrastructure and nightlife is like in order to have like
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Speaker 1: a really successful party, it has to either cater to
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Speaker 1: white men or charge you know, thirty five dollars to enter.
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Speaker 1: And it's and that sucks because like night let people
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Speaker 1: in night life deserve to make a living. This deserves
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Speaker 1: to be a viable job, and everyone gets should be
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Speaker 1: paid their due um, except for like the scammers and
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Speaker 1: the abusers, of which in nightlife there are many um.
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Speaker 1: But like I I just I don't know. It makes
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Speaker 1: me depressed sometimes. Yeah, it really does come down to
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Speaker 1: like who has the ability to fund space? And I
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Speaker 1: guess at the time when I was throwing parties, it
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Speaker 1: was just like a little easier to make that happen.
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Speaker 1: But also when I think about it, like the people
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Speaker 1: who were like renting venues and like did it because
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Speaker 1: they had some kind of top at all, or like
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Speaker 1: some kind of hustle. Because there weren't a lot of
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Speaker 1: like permanent venues. There was the spectrum, which you know,
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Speaker 1: like r I P went through, went through so many iterations.
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Speaker 1: Actually I was gonna say, I said rest in peace,
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Speaker 1: but it's really more rest in chaos like that that
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Speaker 1: unless you're doing it at a really big scale or
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Speaker 1: like has some kind of like backers or whatever, it's
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Speaker 1: really hard to make money and night I mean trying
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Speaker 1: to do gorgeous, gorgeous this party in l A, which
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Speaker 1: is by the way, on the tenth at the Resident
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Speaker 1: in downtown Los Angeles, you can get tickets, you know
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Speaker 1: if you just check out my social Like this party,
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Speaker 1: it involves so much planning from the four of us, UM, DJ,
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Speaker 1: Louis La la Omar and myself, and yet like we
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Speaker 1: are barely breaking even because we want to pay talent
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Speaker 1: and we want to pay hosts, like everyone wants to
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Speaker 1: be paid, And I fucking hate parties that don't pay people,
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Speaker 1: Like there are still, especially in West Hollywood, parties that
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Speaker 1: are like literally not paying hosts, being like you get
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Speaker 1: to drink tickets and your name on a poster and
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Speaker 1: that's that. And it's like it's like that is that's gross.
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Speaker 1: That's gross, I know, And that hasn't changed since I
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Speaker 1: was working a nightlife and I started, like I started
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Speaker 1: throwing parties ten years ago. Yeah, I love the Poppy
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Speaker 1: Juice model because I think when I hosted like a
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Speaker 1: few prides ago, they paid me I think like three
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars, which is like a lot for a host
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, But and also like they emailed me
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Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, you don't have any responsibilities,
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Speaker 1: like here's the poster assets, but like you don't have
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Speaker 1: to like bring twenty people. We just want you to
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Speaker 1: have fun, Like your job is to show up and
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Speaker 1: have fun, and like you know, like bringing people thing.
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Speaker 1: The first party I ever hosted, we used to get
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Speaker 1: paid per head of people scam scan. This is an
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Speaker 1: m l M MLM and MLM Lally, there were nights
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Speaker 1: when I like, I only brought to people and you know,
10:55
Speaker 1: so I would make like like or what I where
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Speaker 1: it was. I remember one nay I hosted this Susanne
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Speaker 1: barsh party and I was there for literally forty five minutes,
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Speaker 1: and then I like went to her. I was like
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Speaker 1: because I had another party that I had to work
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Speaker 1: that night, and I was like, hey, babe, like I
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Speaker 1: have to go, and she was like, oh hold on,
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Speaker 1: let me let me write you a check. And then
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Speaker 1: she had her assistant in the middle of the dance sport.
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Speaker 1: She wrote me a check on her assistance back and
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Speaker 1: gave it to me, And I made I made more
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Speaker 1: in like forty five minutes of being that party that
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Speaker 1: I did like in a week at my full time
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Speaker 1: office job. That is iconic. That is like I love
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Speaker 1: Susanne bar so much. Um that reminds me of the
11:34
Speaker 1: SNL sketch Checks, you know with Sandra and Oh my God,
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Speaker 1: and it's written by Bowen and Julio. Is one of
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Speaker 1: the funniest SNL sketches of all times. Like Checks, Well,
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Speaker 1: Susanne barsh is very they never speak of this again.
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Speaker 1: She said she still pays everyone by check. She has
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Speaker 1: an a o L email address. Of course, she lives
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Speaker 1: at the Chelsea Hotel. Like that is the only person
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Speaker 1: to this day to live the Chelsea Hotel because it
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Speaker 1: used to be like an artist residency where a lot
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Speaker 1: of different kind of long types of people like maple
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Speaker 1: Thorpe and Um Patty Smith. I actually UM had like
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Speaker 1: an affair with someone who by affair, I mean like
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Speaker 1: I picked someone up at Nowhere Bar and like spend
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Speaker 1: a night with him. But that's an affair, that's a
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn affair. Yeah, he was in town, like he was
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Speaker 1: a tourist and he was staying at the Chelsea Hotel.
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Speaker 1: And this was right after the summer that I read
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Speaker 1: Just Kids. It was like such a quintessential New York
12:35
Speaker 1: experience book is so perfect it is, I like picked
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Speaker 1: this guy up, we went and got pizza and went
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Speaker 1: back to the Chelsea Hotel and fucked all night, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, I am Patty Smith, I am Robert Thorpe,
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Speaker 1: I am all I am Well oh my god, Okay, wait,
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Speaker 1: you just dug up so much for me. I used
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Speaker 1: to host this other party at Beauty and Essex. Do
12:55
Speaker 1: you remember that place? It's like I used to live
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Speaker 1: her on the corner front, so non non New Yorkers.
13:01
Speaker 1: Beauty and Essex is a speak easy style um bar
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Speaker 1: wherein you go through an instrument repair shop to a
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Speaker 1: secret kind of bar that's like covered in red velvet.
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Speaker 1: It's very sexy and sleep but it's also like garbage.
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Speaker 1: And the worst people in Manhattan thrive in Beauty and Essex.
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Speaker 1: And I would ascend this velvet staircase pastor rope if
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Speaker 1: you like, you know, said the name Fran at the door,
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Speaker 1: and I remember I felt like so sheet. But it
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Speaker 1: was all produced by Michael, who's this like cereal like
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Speaker 1: horrible person. Honestly, a lot of party promoters are horrible people,
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Speaker 1: Like I mean not to name drop people. Actually we
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Speaker 1: can just we can. We can bleep it, but we'll
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Speaker 1: bliep it up. You do start feeling when you work
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Speaker 1: enough of those parties that like you, like you understand
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Speaker 1: that you are there to provide atmosphere for the people
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Speaker 1: who were actually paying to be there, who are paying
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Speaker 1: you to be there, and there is a very fine
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Speaker 1: line of feeling very valued and very disposable. Like I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is like a like totally stupid whatever example. But
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Speaker 1: at Holy Mountain, the Lady Fag party that I hosted,
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Speaker 1: like from the beginning of it, I don't know if
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Speaker 1: you ever went, but it was at Sleep and in
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Speaker 1: the main room, the Obsidian Room City, and there was
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Speaker 1: that booth in the back that like for the whole
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Speaker 1: maybe like first year, was where all the hosts hung
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Speaker 1: out on that floor, you know, and it felt very
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Speaker 1: like we were in there, like feeling fabulous, looking down
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Speaker 1: on everybody and like would do drugs in there and
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Speaker 1: like whatever. And then there was one night where Erica
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Speaker 1: Jane and we got kicked and we got kicked out
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Speaker 1: of the booth. And then from then on it was
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Speaker 1: like very clear that that booth was for actual v
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Speaker 1: i p s and not to the people who were
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Speaker 1: worked the part that fucking sucks, and that honestly is
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Speaker 1: a testament to how ugly queer spaces can be when
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Speaker 1: they prioritize people based on class or eliteness and not
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Speaker 1: actually usually people were like coming in, we're coming into
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Speaker 1: like do like a little Safari moment where they're seeing
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Speaker 1: the sights for the night. That booth at Holy Mountain
15:21
Speaker 1: ended one of my relationships literally, yes, how so so
15:26
Speaker 1: I dated this ballet dancer briefly. He is, unfortunately one
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Speaker 1: of I think six ballet dancers I have dated or
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Speaker 1: hooked up, which is honestly, like that needs to be
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Speaker 1: I'm investigated. I mean, it's just it's just that I
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Speaker 1: like pretty pretty girls. I love bone structure and huge thighs.
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Speaker 1: But anyways, this guy was like he was rich, That's
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Speaker 1: what I'll say. He was rich. He was young, so
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Speaker 1: he was a brat. But he was hot and a
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Speaker 1: ballet dancer, so I didn't care. And one time I
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Speaker 1: was like, let's go to Holy Mountain UM. But we
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Speaker 1: didn't go together for whatever reason I can't remember. I
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Speaker 1: think he was coming with friends and I wasn't hosting.
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Speaker 1: But I had been invited to like sit a mandelaport's
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Speaker 1: table in the booth or whatever, the area where you
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Speaker 1: like look down on the rest of the venue, and
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Speaker 1: so when this guy came, I was already in the
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Speaker 1: booth and looking down to people, and I texted him.
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Speaker 1: I was like, come up to the booth, come up
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Speaker 1: to the booth, like let's hang, let's let's drink, and
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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And I was very in my jug
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Speaker 1: and he never ever came up at any point like
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Speaker 1: I would have been able to let him in. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what's going on? And I was
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Speaker 1: like should I go down and find him? Like I
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Speaker 1: don't really, he wasn't really texting me back, and like
16:35
Speaker 1: when I finally like met up with him, I think
16:38
Speaker 1: he was like I'm leaving and I was like what.
16:40
Speaker 1: And so we went outside and proceeded to have like
16:43
Speaker 1: a cigarette infused argument about yes, there out outside the
16:49
Speaker 1: barber girl. We were both tourists, which is like a
16:51
Speaker 1: key component of like why this didn't work out, And
16:55
Speaker 1: he was like you were up there in the booth
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Speaker 1: like fully just like in your and like you just
16:59
Speaker 1: think you're better than everyone else. And it was such
17:01
Speaker 1: a power play and like I felt it like blah blah,
17:03
Speaker 1: And I was like a power play, mama, Like how
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Speaker 1: insecure are you? That also mean it kind of was.
17:10
Speaker 1: It's not power play to say come join me, but
17:15
Speaker 1: they do. But I'm sure there was part of it
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Speaker 1: that was if you got him to see you in
17:22
Speaker 1: that context of like but being being a special person
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Speaker 1: in this space. But of course I do like why,
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Speaker 1: like what I need to feel bad at? I totally
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Speaker 1: get that there was there was. There was nothing more
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Speaker 1: exhilarating to me than arriving at a party, walking past
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Speaker 1: the line, waiting to get inside, going up to the
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Speaker 1: door person and saying Hi, I'm on the list, or
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Speaker 1: like hi, I'm hosting tonight, or like working. It's the
17:53
Speaker 1: best feeling ever. I mean, the worst feeling ever is
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Speaker 1: when you do that and your name isn't on the list,
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Speaker 1: oh my, and you have to either like stand there
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Speaker 1: and wait while they like confirm with someone or get
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Speaker 1: turned away, which I mean I would never has not
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Speaker 1: has not happened to me. I would never take no
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Speaker 1: for an answer. I would just argue until their resistance
18:13
Speaker 1: was weekend like I although that did happen to me
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Speaker 1: one time, but it was in Berlin. There was this
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Speaker 1: this party that I was going to with a bunch
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Speaker 1: of locals, and they all got in because they were
18:24
Speaker 1: friends with the door girl and I because I was
18:27
Speaker 1: like the tourist I did, I like didn't know them well.
18:29
Speaker 1: I like I had met them through friends of friends.
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Speaker 1: And Berlin is very like not that kind of city,
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Speaker 1: Like they make people wait and so they all got
18:38
Speaker 1: in and I had to wait in line, and like
18:42
Speaker 1: I eventually got to cut the line, but I did
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Speaker 1: wait for like two hours. I mean everyone else waited
18:47
Speaker 1: for like five hours. But it was humiliated. I it
18:53
Speaker 1: reminds me, honestly of the Madonna party at the Boom
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Speaker 1: Moon Room that kicked off Pride last summer, which is
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Speaker 1: too long of a story for me to tell now,
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Speaker 1: but maybe I'll tell it for a future for a
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Speaker 1: future key, because I do actually have to tell you
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Speaker 1: about what I did last night and why I am
19:08
Speaker 1: severely hungover right now. Okay, wait, I do want it.
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Speaker 1: One thing though, is when you are working the door,
19:15
Speaker 1: which I have done a couple of time's never done
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Speaker 1: that before. I used to fill in for um for
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Speaker 1: Amy at the door Westgate occasionally, and the one night
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Speaker 1: I did was the night that is Zalia Banks performed
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Speaker 1: at Westgate. So the worst people on the planet are kind,
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Speaker 1: but but a girl That night was the night I
19:36
Speaker 1: was taking bribes to get in and I made on
19:41
Speaker 1: top of what I was getting paid to work the door,
19:43
Speaker 1: I made like four hundred dollars that in bribes the
19:46
Speaker 1: people who just wanted to get in and cut the line.
19:49
Speaker 1: That's iconic. That's and then I and then I got
19:51
Speaker 1: to like go upstairs to the booth and watch Zonias.
19:55
Speaker 1: What's a good bribe? Like twenty bucks? Fifty bucks? Um?
19:58
Speaker 1: Fifty was like the baseline. That's what I was gonna say.
20:01
Speaker 1: I feel like it would have to be fifty um. Okay, um,
20:05
Speaker 1: that is iconic. Azially Banks does draw some really some
20:09
Speaker 1: really um terrifying crowds. As someone who's been in multiple
20:13
Speaker 1: Assally Banks crowds before. Um, but I have to tell you, Okay,
20:17
Speaker 1: so last night I went to this coach party which
20:19
Speaker 1: was at the Monster. Do you remember the Monster? Yes,
20:22
Speaker 1: I haven't really have spent a few quite a few
20:25
Speaker 1: um nights that I would I would rather forget. It's
20:29
Speaker 1: a it's a really I really love it, but it
20:32
Speaker 1: is kind of a lost dingy gay bar. In the
20:36
Speaker 1: last time I was like the Monster was when I
20:39
Speaker 1: performed the Cell Blocked Tango from Chicago with Charlene Slater,
20:46
Speaker 1: g S. Dring and um Amber Alert and a couple
20:50
Speaker 1: other girls. That sounds we had like we had done
20:53
Speaker 1: it one night at Straight Acting, I think, and then
20:56
Speaker 1: like kind of toward it around a few different parties.
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Speaker 1: We did it at the Monster. We did it at
21:03
Speaker 1: the party that Frankie Sharp used to throw at the Jane. Yeah, anyway,
21:09
Speaker 1: that's so wait, wait, that's so funny. I um, I wait,
21:14
Speaker 1: I have to know that, I think video if I
21:17
Speaker 1: still have it on my phone, I will send it. Okay,
21:19
Speaker 1: I'm dying to see. I have to know where you pop?
21:22
Speaker 1: Were you cioa, where you lipshits? I don't actually remember, Rose,
21:26
Speaker 1: how can you not remember? I don't know, but I
21:29
Speaker 1: will I will. I will find it and send it
21:32
Speaker 1: to you. And then he ran into my knife. That
21:34
Speaker 1: would be you, that's my guess. No, I don't think
21:36
Speaker 1: that was me. I think I was. I was. I
21:40
Speaker 1: was not Velma because that was shar obviously. M Well,
21:46
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, we'll figure it out. We'll figure
21:47
Speaker 1: it out. Um okay, like so yeah, coach had it.
21:50
Speaker 1: It was like in collaboration with the Monster, which I
21:53
Speaker 1: think is cool. It's like a historic queer bar. And
21:57
Speaker 1: Daniel Rasmussen, who did the pr for this, like pulled
22:01
Speaker 1: the most amazing crowd for this coach party, and like I, I,
22:06
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a I'm not a fashion girl,
22:09
Speaker 1: so I kind of had low expectations for it. I
22:11
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, if I'm invited, like then
22:13
Speaker 1: I don't know who's going to be there. It was
22:14
Speaker 1: like everyone. It was like everyone who organized Brook Liberation
22:17
Speaker 1: with me. It was the cast of Fire Island. It
22:20
Speaker 1: Rajah was there and when I walked in, I immediately
22:23
Speaker 1: saw Mark Jacobs, like it was just like the who's
22:26
Speaker 1: who of like New York queer scenes and like Um
22:29
Speaker 1: Aquaria djade Um as well as oscar Enia from Poppy Juice.
22:34
Speaker 1: And there was some performance by Saucy Santana which was
22:37
Speaker 1: so good. But Rose I got blitzed and I don't
22:43
Speaker 1: know why, but I was like, I'm gonna drink champagne
22:46
Speaker 1: tonight because like champagne is on the open bar and
22:48
Speaker 1: I'm guzzling champagne. At some point someone hands me extra
22:52
Speaker 1: glasses of champagne. I walked away from the bar with
22:54
Speaker 1: two glasses every time because it was so difficult to
22:56
Speaker 1: get to the bar, and I got so so smashed.
23:00
Speaker 1: At a certain point of the night, a neon sign
23:02
Speaker 1: caught on fire because of some of the tinsel that
23:05
Speaker 1: was behind it, and Willie Norris, Willie Norris takes everyone's
23:09
Speaker 1: like throwing water on it. We're all faggots, so we
23:10
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. We're like, how do we
23:12
Speaker 1: fix this fire? The things on fire? Oh my god?
23:14
Speaker 1: And Willie Norris comes out of nowhere with an extinguisher,
23:19
Speaker 1: like full glam, like putting this fucking fire out. I'm
23:22
Speaker 1: still looking for footage of it, if and if anybody
23:24
Speaker 1: can find footage and send it to me. Um, but like,
23:27
Speaker 1: my god, like this party was crazy, and unfortunately Matt
23:33
Speaker 1: fucking Rogers was like, let's do shots. Rose. Why did
23:39
Speaker 1: I do shots? Matt Rogers? Why did you make us
23:41
Speaker 1: do shots? I'm very angry about this because putting a
23:45
Speaker 1: shot on top of a belly of champagne is basically
23:49
Speaker 1: does me. And I'm out for the night. My stomach
23:52
Speaker 1: just turned. I do not remember the rest of the night,
23:56
Speaker 1: but I remember having a ton of fun. But unfortunately
23:59
Speaker 1: I did have sex planned after this party, um with
24:03
Speaker 1: someone with like an ex who I have like a
24:05
Speaker 1: really wonderful relationship with now and um, I basically like
24:11
Speaker 1: I I like called them a voice momitor. I don't
24:12
Speaker 1: even remember, but I was just like just a very warning.
24:15
Speaker 1: I'm blitzed, like I'm so sorry. I did not plan
24:19
Speaker 1: to be this drunk and I was so drunk that
24:22
Speaker 1: we couldn't have sex. I literally was incapable, and it
24:26
Speaker 1: was I mean, we know each other well enough that
24:28
Speaker 1: it was fine, but I was still embarrassed and I
24:30
Speaker 1: was like, God, like this this sucks. And also while
24:34
Speaker 1: I was blitzed, I don't know why they did this,
24:36
Speaker 1: but like while I was like ship faced on my
24:38
Speaker 1: bed and we're like talking and like laughing about like
24:41
Speaker 1: how drunk I am and how we can't even hook up,
24:43
Speaker 1: they decided to take that moment to be like, hey,
24:45
Speaker 1: you sub tweeted me the other day and it really
24:47
Speaker 1: bothered me and here's why I hurt my feelings. And
24:49
Speaker 1: I was like no, like because I was like it
24:53
Speaker 1: was something that I shouldn't have done. It was it was,
24:55
Speaker 1: it was not it was not a nice thing to
24:56
Speaker 1: tweet um, but but they brought it up in that moment.
25:00
Speaker 1: It and also they don't have Twitter, so I didn't
25:01
Speaker 1: think they were ever going to see but someone sent
25:03
Speaker 1: it to them, which is like, don't be a fucking cops. Sorry, um,
25:07
Speaker 1: but they literally were like, um, hurt my feelings. And
25:09
Speaker 1: I was like, I, you know, I want to do
25:11
Speaker 1: right by you and I want to be accountable for
25:13
Speaker 1: my behavior, but not in this state of mind I
25:15
Speaker 1: am in right now. I mean, that's what happens when
25:18
Speaker 1: you're that sucked up, as you go from sucking to processing,
25:21
Speaker 1: like immediately. Well, I think since we've been you know,
25:36
Speaker 1: catching up and being a little more personal, a little
25:39
Speaker 1: more vulnerable, why don't we like try telling each other
25:43
Speaker 1: a secret? A secret? Oh? Yes, I think we should
25:47
Speaker 1: try and do a little game of truth or truth
25:50
Speaker 1: when we do these little keys. Yes, and if I'm
25:52
Speaker 1: telling the truth, these secrets were actually prepared by producer
25:56
Speaker 1: Phoebe as we've been, who wrote some really juicy question yeah,
26:00
Speaker 1: some of which we absolutely will not be answering when
26:03
Speaker 1: there's a microphone recording our responses, and some of which
26:06
Speaker 1: are a drag like many of them are a read
26:09
Speaker 1: in and of themselves. Yes, I do feel like we
26:12
Speaker 1: are being live sub treated by Phoebe um, as we
26:15
Speaker 1: often are while we record as it should be. Yeah,
26:18
Speaker 1: so so yeah for in which of these questions do
26:21
Speaker 1: you want to answer? Well, one of them is, uh,
26:26
Speaker 1: as people with public personalities, what is your favorite thing
26:29
Speaker 1: you lie about to your fallowers? Which is like now
26:33
Speaker 1: they're gonna know. But the thing about podcasting is like
26:36
Speaker 1: this stuff never like you know, catch us fire like
26:39
Speaker 1: gets transcribed, and so we can say anything we want
26:42
Speaker 1: and honestly, no one will ever know about it except
26:44
Speaker 1: for the you know, small select people, a group of
26:47
Speaker 1: people that listen to this pod. Okay, I'm going to
26:50
Speaker 1: have kind of, um a boring answer because it's not
26:54
Speaker 1: a lie. I feel like I'm actually pretty honest with
26:56
Speaker 1: the way I present myself online except meybe like the
26:59
Speaker 1: law I have like face tune, which I don't use anymore.
27:03
Speaker 1: But I think I try to engage with social media
27:07
Speaker 1: in a way that feels very like I don't care
27:09
Speaker 1: about any of this, like I could take this or
27:12
Speaker 1: leave this, I could delete my Twitter tomorrow, um, when
27:15
Speaker 1: in fact, like I actually receive a lot of validation
27:19
Speaker 1: from the attention I get on social media, and so
27:22
Speaker 1: like the casual nous of it is the lie can
27:25
Speaker 1: we talk about this for a second, because when we
27:28
Speaker 1: spent a few New Years ago together, you know, before
27:31
Speaker 1: we went to this like random party, we were laying
27:34
Speaker 1: in bed and you showed me like at the time,
27:36
Speaker 1: how you like photoshopped your photos, and my jaw dropped.
27:40
Speaker 1: I was like, what have I been missing out on
27:42
Speaker 1: this whole time? Because I, you know, used to photoshop
27:45
Speaker 1: my photos a lot too, and now I don't. But
27:47
Speaker 1: I had never used face tune before or whatever app
27:50
Speaker 1: that was. It was like, really like it was face
27:52
Speaker 1: It was a lot. I know, I was a really
27:54
Speaker 1: heavy handed face tune user, and like nothing nod it
27:58
Speaker 1: looked unnatural. It no, it was it was really like
28:03
Speaker 1: I wanted to look the way that I looked if
28:07
Speaker 1: I took like the perfect photo of myself or you know,
28:11
Speaker 1: just like twisting the things that I don't like about
28:14
Speaker 1: my face or like whatever. And it was also at
28:16
Speaker 1: a time when I was just like posting a lot more,
28:19
Speaker 1: was like much more visible on social mediaw you're back
28:22
Speaker 1: to being visible. So maybe it's uh, but your but
28:25
Speaker 1: your thirst traps are one up to now you don't
28:27
Speaker 1: have to use the face tune. I don't post like
28:30
Speaker 1: that anymore. So I don't find myself needing to use
28:34
Speaker 1: face tune. But then again, like that is the lie.
28:36
Speaker 1: Like I do want the validation that comes from posting
28:40
Speaker 1: a lot, but I am like so cognizant of wanting
28:43
Speaker 1: to do this performance of not caring about social media.
28:47
Speaker 1: But like to be fair, we both have very low
28:49
Speaker 1: self esteem, like we were very insecure. I'll speak for
28:54
Speaker 1: myself at least, like I'm very insecure, and like I
28:57
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of this is reparative work, Okay,
28:59
Speaker 1: I'm trying to grab the compliments that, like, you know,
29:02
Speaker 1: to make up for lost time of like telling myself
29:04
Speaker 1: that I was ugly for like you know, twenty years
29:07
Speaker 1: or whatever, thirty years. And I feel like, um, I mean,
29:10
Speaker 1: I luckily don't photoshop anymore either, but I used to
29:12
Speaker 1: like make my ass bigger, which is so embarrassing. So
29:18
Speaker 1: but obviously, I mean, James Charles doesn't need photoshop. But
29:21
Speaker 1: you know, she she's she's got the real deal, I
29:24
Speaker 1: mean real in air quotes. Um. But like I I mean,
29:27
Speaker 1: now my are obsessed with James Charles. I am, I am,
29:30
Speaker 1: I won't stop talking about her. Um, but like I
29:33
Speaker 1: literally yeah him say his name. Yeah, So what's what's
29:36
Speaker 1: your lie? Your followers? I mean, honestly, I this is
29:41
Speaker 1: like a white lie, and I think it's relatable. I
29:43
Speaker 1: think a lot of people do this, but like I
29:45
Speaker 1: always say, like, I'm from Chicago, but the realty is
29:50
Speaker 1: I was born on the South Side of Chicago, which
29:53
Speaker 1: is Chicago, Chicago. But then like when I was five
29:56
Speaker 1: or six, my parents moved into a suburb and so worried.
30:00
Speaker 1: It's so barring. Can we can we can we each
30:04
Speaker 1: tell each other what we think the answer should be. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, okay.
30:08
Speaker 1: So the lie that I think is that you are
30:11
Speaker 1: not as nice as you present on that and I
30:16
Speaker 1: mean that as a compliment. Is a compliment, But you are.
30:19
Speaker 1: You are fucking queer mother Teresa on social media. You
30:23
Speaker 1: are hey babies, I love you so much. You are
30:27
Speaker 1: holding space for everyone, and you are not that nice,
30:31
Speaker 1: not straight. You are my sister, but you you are
30:35
Speaker 1: much you are And this is again I mean this
30:39
Speaker 1: as a compliment. You are much meaner I r L
30:42
Speaker 1: than you than you present online. I take that as
30:45
Speaker 1: a compliment and I will own it because with my friends,
30:47
Speaker 1: I'm a very tough lover I'm very direct. I don't
30:50
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time coddling. I just tell you
30:52
Speaker 1: how it is. If you are coming to me to vent,
30:55
Speaker 1: I'm usually not the right person to do it. I'm like,
30:57
Speaker 1: let's problem solve, you know what I mean? Um, but
31:00
Speaker 1: if I don't know you, God help you. Like, I
31:03
Speaker 1: don't have a poker face, so I immediately turn off
31:06
Speaker 1: if I'm not interested in conversation with you, And it's
31:08
Speaker 1: very apparent that, like I don't care about this conversation. Um.
31:12
Speaker 1: And I also just like if someone crosses me, like,
31:14
Speaker 1: I have no problem being like, um, excuse me, I'm
31:17
Speaker 1: worth more, you know. Um? But yeah, as I should.
31:21
Speaker 1: But yes, what do you think? What do you think?
31:24
Speaker 1: My lie? Is? I think you're a lie? I think
31:28
Speaker 1: you're a lie? Is that all your tweets are sublime
31:32
Speaker 1: moments of genius that happened on the spot, when in
31:34
Speaker 1: reality you test drive them on me first. I definitely
31:39
Speaker 1: do test drive them a lot. A lot of things
31:43
Speaker 1: I tweet are things that I say in real life,
31:45
Speaker 1: and then if someone laughs at them, I'm like I
31:47
Speaker 1: should tweet that, yes, yeah, and I experienced that a lot,
31:51
Speaker 1: like I'll be you know, I'll do my kind of
31:53
Speaker 1: my semi regular like checking on your Twitter, and I'll
31:56
Speaker 1: be scrolling and I'll be like, oh, yeah, Rose said
31:57
Speaker 1: that to me the other day, So I guess it
31:59
Speaker 1: makes sense. But you know, like it's it works out
32:02
Speaker 1: for me because, as you know, I forget absolutely everything
32:05
Speaker 1: I say to you as soon as I say it.
32:07
Speaker 1: So to me. When I'm tweeting these things, they're brand new.
32:09
Speaker 1: It's really just a journal, a diarrhe of sorts. Yeah,
32:12
Speaker 1: just making sure you don't think I don't think I'm
32:15
Speaker 1: lying by tweeting things like, it's not like I'm saying,
32:18
Speaker 1: oh I just had It's not like every tweet to
32:20
Speaker 1: have I I preface it by saying, oh, I just
32:22
Speaker 1: had this amazing thought for the first time, and I
32:24
Speaker 1: can't wait to share it with all forty four thousand
32:27
Speaker 1: of you who follow me. Yeah exactly, Oh my god. Wow. Well,
32:32
Speaker 1: now that we've exposed each other, I feel like this
32:35
Speaker 1: has yeah, rosen Frand exposed. So we just asked each
32:40
Speaker 1: other this, you know, like extremely personal question. Just tried
32:44
Speaker 1: to expose each other. Ask a secret um for the
32:47
Speaker 1: next the next couple of weeks. As we're doing these
32:49
Speaker 1: you know, Girls are Girling episodes. If you have a
32:53
Speaker 1: question that you want to ask us, want us to
32:56
Speaker 1: ask each other something very vulnerable, personal, vulnerable on Maine. UM,
33:01
Speaker 1: slide into our d M s at like a virgin
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Speaker 1: for UM, and you know, pitch some questions and we
33:10
Speaker 1: will answer them on air. And as always, please you know,
33:22
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33:36
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