Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #132: If "hunger advocates" really care about nutrition, why do they advocate using SNAP benefits for sugary soft drinks and crap processed food? Because they're compromised. The left doesn't understand the meaning of the word "temporary" regarding the temporary Haitian refugees. And, Francesca Deadbeat Hong finally pays her 10-year old $30K credit card bill.

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Mark Belling Podcast #132: If "hunger advocates" really care about nutrition, why do they advocate using SNAP benefits for sugary soft drinks and crap processed food? Because they're compromised. The left doesn't understand the meaning of the word "temporary" regarding the temporary Haitian refugees. And, Francesca Deadbeat Hong finally pays her 10-year old $30K credit card bill. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: I've got two separate examples today of how compassion, legitimate compassion,
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  Speaker 2: week on Capital Hill. There's a battle going on over
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  Speaker 2: whether or not SNAP benefits should be increased. Snap is
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  Speaker 2: the name that we now use for food stams. I
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  Speaker 2: think we don't call them food stamps anywhere because they're
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  Speaker 2: all electronic, But we used to call them food stamps.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's snap and it's an interesting back and forth
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to hear here from one of the
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  Speaker 2: brighter Republicans on the scene. He's a freshman congress and
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  Speaker 2: you know, he just doesn't seem like a freshman. He's
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  Speaker 2: too knowing. His name is Brendan Gilly. He's a congressman
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  Speaker 2: from Texas, remember the House, And one of the lefty
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  Speaker 2: witnesses into testify asking for an increase in SNAP benefits
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  Speaker 2: is a woman from the Food Research and Action Center.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be playing here a five and a
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  Speaker 2: half minute back and forth between Gil and her. It's
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  Speaker 2: already revealing and it explains almost everything. Now I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: butt in a couple of times to offer some perspective
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  Speaker 2: on this. But I think this is a real teaching moment,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for all of these young lefties that are
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  Speaker 2: falling from Marxism right now. And they hear old farts
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  Speaker 2: like me say, but it doesn't work. It doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna hear here why it doesn't work. So here's
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  Speaker 2: the exchange between Brenda Gill and Gino Platonino.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, mister chair, for holding this hearing and for
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  Speaker 3: your intense and steadfast work on combating waste, fraught and abuse.
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  Speaker 3: We certainly appreciate it. I know taxpayers appreciate it. And
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  Speaker 3: thank you to the witnesses for taking the time to
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  Speaker 3: be here. Miss Platanino, Did I pronounce that correctly? Platinino? Okay, Platino.
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  Speaker 3: Nino got a couple questions for you. Should SNAP dollars
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  Speaker 3: be spent on sodas?
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  Speaker 4: The purpose of the SNAPS program is to provide families
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  Speaker 4: to have food and beverages.
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  Speaker 5: Shouldn't be sent on spent on sugary sodas.
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  Speaker 4: I am happy to talk about hunger and nutrition, but
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  Speaker 4: not dictate what Americans should or should not eat or
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  Speaker 4: may have.
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  Speaker 3: Accellent I'm asking if tax dollars should be used to
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  Speaker 3: pay for sodas.
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  Speaker 4: Taxpayer's money should be utilized to ensure that individuals have
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  Speaker 4: access to the food that they need to survive, maybe permitted.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly, she doesn't want to answer this question. No, it'll
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  Speaker 2: become a parent and if it isn't, no't worry. I'll
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  Speaker 2: explained why she doesn't want to answer this question. Gil
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  Speaker 2: is come and get this from the perspective of if
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  Speaker 2: the SNAP program is aimed at improve nutrition and dealing
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  Speaker 2: with the legitimate hunger problem in the United States. Why
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  Speaker 2: are we having people spend a good chunk of this
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  Speaker 2: on crap that is it nutritious and in the case
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  Speaker 2: of sugary soda, is something that is bad for you?
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  Speaker 2: How bad? People can debate, but it's certainly not anything
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  Speaker 2: that adds to nutrition. Now, that's what he's driving it.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll notice that he's not arguing with her, which
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  Speaker 2: is what a lot of members of Congress do. That
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  Speaker 2: these things aren't actually asking questions. He just keeps asking
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  Speaker 2: this question, and he's asking this question to demonstrate that
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to answer it. Now, think about this.
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  Speaker 2: From what this woman is from the name of the
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  Speaker 2: organization is the Food Research and Action Center. They're an
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  Speaker 2: advocate for dealing with the hunger problem in the United States,
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  Speaker 2: you would think that this would be a question she
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  Speaker 2: has an opinion on, but she wants nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with this question. Back to the hearing, Well.
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  Speaker 5: To them, do they need sugary sodas to survive?
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  Speaker 4: Some of them do? Who do have low blood issues?
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  Speaker 5: Who make that right?
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  Speaker 4: Kidnses, I think.
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  Speaker 3: They need coca cola to survive. Do you think that's
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  Speaker 3: the most appropriate use of our tax dollars.
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  Speaker 4: I am not a physician, but medical wreckers and ext.
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  Speaker 3: You're just citing the health needs apparently of the American people.
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  Speaker 3: So do the American people need coca cola to survive?
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  Speaker 4: I did not say that.
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  Speaker 3: I said, then I'm asking any of you. I'm giving
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  Speaker 3: you the opportunity to say yes or no.
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  Speaker 4: I will not answer for individuals and their choices.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's stop the key. Think now he's asked
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  Speaker 2: the same question about seven times and she does not
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  Speaker 2: want to answer this. And one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: make first of all, Gill is a lawyer by pratty,
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  Speaker 2: he's telling but he's a lawyer. And you can tell
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  Speaker 2: because really good lawyers, especially especially those who do trial work,
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  Speaker 2: they know how to ask questions. And in this instance,
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  Speaker 2: you know he is in court, they'd probably say, asked
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  Speaker 2: that answered, even though she's clearly not answering it. So
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  Speaker 2: he's simply going to persist in asking the same question
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  Speaker 2: rather than arguing. His asking the question over and over
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  Speaker 2: again demonstrates the point that he's trying to make about this.
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  Speaker 2: Many people on the right, I think would support an
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  Speaker 2: increase in programs like this if they thought that the
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  Speaker 2: money was actually being spent to deal with hunger. But
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  Speaker 2: Gill's drawing attention to the fact that these that benefits
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  Speaker 2: can be used for all sorts of stuff that don't
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  Speaker 2: address hunger and certainly don't address nutrition. But why are
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  Speaker 2: the people who say that they care about the nutrition
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  Speaker 2: needs and want to deal with the hunger problem, why
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  Speaker 2: do they want to divert so much of this money
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  Speaker 2: into stuff that doesn't deal with nutrition and aren't good
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  Speaker 2: for you. Again, the answer is going to become a part.
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  Speaker 2: But you could see that this woman sitting here, she
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  Speaker 2: just does not want to answer the question. She's not
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  Speaker 2: going to answer the question, and she seems recycling. I'm
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  Speaker 2: here to talk about I'm here to talk about I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, Like you don't know. What do you mean
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  Speaker 2: you don't know? You don't know if coca cola is
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  Speaker 2: good for your health or not. Back to the.
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  Speaker 3: Tak that there are some Americans who need coca cola
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  Speaker 3: to survive? Is that your testimony?
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  Speaker 4: I am happy to talk about the food, and.
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  Speaker 5: Don't you just don't know?
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  Speaker 4: Individuals, you just don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think most people can rationally say that you don't
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  Speaker 3: need coca cola to survive, wouldn't you agree?
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  Speaker 4: I agree that we have a hunger crisis and that
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  Speaker 4: we need to address it. But ensuring that individuals have
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  Speaker 4: the food resources that.
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  Speaker 3: They need got it in. One of those is sugary
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  Speaker 3: coca cola. What does what does SNAP stand for.
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  Speaker 4: Is a supplemental nutrition assistance program?
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  Speaker 5: What's nutritional about coca cola?
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  Speaker 4: I am not a nutritionist. I am a food security expert,
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  Speaker 4: and ensuring that individuals have the food soligate.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, it's just hilarious how these people define
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  Speaker 2: their positions so narrowly when it serves their purpose. Often
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  Speaker 2: they'll use whatever little credential they have to talk about
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  Speaker 2: any damn thing in the world. But in this instance, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a nutrition expert. I'm dealing with the hunger problem,
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  Speaker 2: access the food. Yet anyone that has a brain can
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  Speaker 2: answer that question. But she again doesn't want to answer it.
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  Speaker 2: She's doing everything in her power not to answer a
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  Speaker 2: question that is easy to answer, which is precisely why
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  Speaker 2: Gil keeps asking it. Because this refusal to answer when
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  Speaker 2: it's coming from somebody who's lobbying on behalf of the hungry,
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  Speaker 2: I think explains the entire problem. And again I said
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  Speaker 2: I was going to come up with two examples of
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  Speaker 2: how compassion and big government just don't mesh together. More on.
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  Speaker 3: This is a common sense question. All of these have
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  Speaker 3: been common sense questions. I'm just asking you, is there
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  Speaker 3: nutritional value to sugary sodas?
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  Speaker 5: A yes or no question.
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  Speaker 4: I am not an expert. I would have to look
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  Speaker 4: at the dietary time.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not an expert. I don't think that there's nutritional
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  Speaker 3: value to sugary sodas. I think most people in this
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  Speaker 3: room would agree with that assessment.
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  Speaker 5: But you have no opinion.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here to talk about the food needs and the
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  Speaker 4: hunger crisis that individuals you in America.
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  Speaker 3: Are you that ideologically dug in that you want our
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  Speaker 3: tax dollars paying for sugary sodas? That you will not,
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  Speaker 3: in a straightforward way, admit that sugary sodas are not
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  Speaker 3: helpful for the American people.
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  Speaker 4: I think that focusing a soda when people are going hungry.
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  Speaker 3: We spent a lot of our tax dollars are spent
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  Speaker 3: on soda. That's why I'm asking about it. We have
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  Speaker 3: and do you appear to be so ideologically dug in
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  Speaker 3: that you won't answer a simple question, that that's not
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  Speaker 3: an appropriate use of our tax dollars, and that that
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  Speaker 3: does not in fact make the American people more healthy.
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  Speaker 2: All right, it's not the tape. Now. I like people
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  Speaker 2: to think things through. Some of you already know the answer.
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  Speaker 2: You're smart, you're well informed, you understand what goes on here.
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  Speaker 2: But some of you don't. And I believe that when
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  Speaker 2: you figure something out yourself, you're likelier to retain it
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  Speaker 2: than when I tell you. I wish you did retain
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  Speaker 2: everything that I told you, because I'm right about just
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  Speaker 2: about everything. But I want you to work through this again.
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  Speaker 2: The group she's with is something called the Food Research
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  Speaker 2: and Action Center, and she's there testifying with that. Hearing
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  Speaker 2: is about the SNAP program, how much money we're spending
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  Speaker 2: on it. The Trump administration is backed off on some
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  Speaker 2: funding for SNAP. The lefties want to throw fortunes into
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  Speaker 2: this program. That's the back and forth. I want you
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  Speaker 2: to think about why somebody who is an advocate for
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  Speaker 2: her hunger at nutrition needs, that's what her group is,
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  Speaker 2: does not want to take Gill's bait and say anything
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  Speaker 2: negative about using these benefits to buy junk crap. Now
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  Speaker 2: he's sticking to the sugary sodas. There's any number of
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  Speaker 2: things that are covered by the staff benefits that he
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  Speaker 2: can go after, but he's sticking to this, And I
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  Speaker 2: want you to get think about for a moment why
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  Speaker 2: she can simply say no, there isn't any nutritional value
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  Speaker 2: on it, and then secondly jump to the next point.
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  Speaker 2: If we limited snap purchases to food that has nutritional value,
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  Speaker 2: we'd be getting more bang for the buck for the program,
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  Speaker 2: and we'd be helping these people more than encouraging them. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna come up with a partial example because it's
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  Speaker 2: the ultimate bogeyman, but it'll make the point. We don't
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  Speaker 2: allow the use of snap benefits for cigarettes, Well, they're
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  Speaker 2: bad for you. Consuming six cans of sugar filled coal
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  Speaker 2: is probably bad for you too. There may be degrees,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously we don't loss that benefits for everything. But
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  Speaker 2: in terms of something that you can put in your
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  Speaker 2: mouth and eat, it's pretty close. Let's go back to
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  Speaker 2: Brendan gil and the lobbyist for the food research at
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  Speaker 2: Action Center.
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  Speaker 4: I won't answer because there's no data put proving that.
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  Speaker 3: Do you need data to determine whether drinking soda is healthy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, it's a serious question. Is there some h
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  Speaker 3: do you believe that perhaps drinking SODA's every day is healthy?
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  Speaker 4: The worst health outcome is hunger when the individuals don't
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  Speaker 4: have the res.
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  Speaker 3: You satiate hunger with coca cola. I did not say that,
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  Speaker 3: but you said that the worst health outcome is hunger.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm asking you about sugary sodas.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm focusing on the nutrition needs and making sure
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  Speaker 4: that children have the ress.
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  Speaker 5: Is your organization funded by soft drink makers?
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  Speaker 4: I am not in charge of development, but no.
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  Speaker 3: It's not okay your Is your organization funded by organizations
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  Speaker 3: that make money from food stamps? Do organizations who profit
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  Speaker 3: off of food stamps fund your your organization businesses?
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  Speaker 4: I mean the in the I can't comment to that.
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  Speaker 4: Happy to talk about the resource that need?
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  Speaker 5: Is its general mills fund your organization?
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  Speaker 4: I don't have access to that information. I do.
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  Speaker 3: It's right here. They do fund your organization? Do they
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  Speaker 3: profit off of food stamps?
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  Speaker 4: Retailers are the major beneficiaries?
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  Speaker 5: You think that that's a conflict interest.
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  Speaker 4: That's where EBT dollars are utilized.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and they're profiting off of your advocacy. Do you
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  Speaker 3: think that that's a conflict of interest. I think most
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  Speaker 3: people think that's a conflict of interest. I know you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to answer. My time is out.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Mister Charring has Tigris and Brendan Gill of Texas questioning
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  Speaker 2: Geno plot On Nino of the Food Research and Action Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is very revealing. I know that it's a cliche
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  Speaker 2: to say follow the money, but hardly anybody in thinking
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  Speaker 2: about things follows the money. For all of you people
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  Speaker 2: that are falling from Mom, Donnie and DSA and all
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  Speaker 2: of this, Well, we're gonna give you this. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: give you that. We're gonna give you the other thing.
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  Speaker 2: Who really is pushing for that? It's the people who
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  Speaker 2: sell that stuff. We're giving it away, giving away for free,
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  Speaker 2: because we're giving it away for the free because the
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  Speaker 2: government is buying it. The government's providing it. So her
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  Speaker 2: organization who provides the funding to come in and demand
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  Speaker 2: that we spend more money on the staff program. And
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  Speaker 2: it turns out that it's the big food lobby. He
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  Speaker 2: mentioned only one by name, General Mills. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: the entire list, But you get the drill. This organization
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  Speaker 2: is bankrolled by the giant industry that buy and large
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  Speaker 2: sells Americans non nutritional crap. Now, I'm not out here
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  Speaker 2: to tell everybody that they have to live the healthiest
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  Speaker 2: life in the world. But if everybody's spending their staff
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  Speaker 2: benefits on I'll give you a best case scenario. Macaroni
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  Speaker 2: and cheesehead other highly processed food and then they wash
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  Speaker 2: it down with Coca cola and diet pep and doctor
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  Speaker 2: pepper and mountain dew and all of that junk. What
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  Speaker 2: benefit are we providing. There's a joke that people always tell,
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  Speaker 2: and the joke is actually wrong. They'll draw attention to
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's really fat, who says they don't have enough
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  Speaker 2: money for food. There's a hunger crisis here. How can
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  Speaker 2: there be a hunger crisis? How fat the person is, Well,
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  Speaker 2: there's a reality there. Hunger isn't the right word, but
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  Speaker 2: they are certainly lacking nutrition. The point that Gill was
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  Speaker 2: making is if people want to spend some of the
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  Speaker 2: disposable income on coca cola, we believe in freedom, they
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  Speaker 2: should have a right to do it, but they shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: do it with the government handout that we give them.
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  Speaker 2: The handout should be for stuff that actually benefits them,
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  Speaker 2: and the stuff that ain't not benefit them but they
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  Speaker 2: just want to do that should be on their own nickel.
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  Speaker 2: The reason it isn't is this whole problem that I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned about compassion and government. Let's use This is not
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  Speaker 2: the second example that I'm giving you, but it's a
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  Speaker 2: good way of discussing the point when lefties say they
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  Speaker 2: want to address anything, they end up spending a fortune.
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  Speaker 2: But how much of it actually addresses the problem. But
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: it sure results in a lot of people being employed
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of companies selling things, often at inflated prices.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give you an example. The stupid trolley that
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  Speaker 2: we have in Milwaukee. It's clearly benefiting almost no one
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  Speaker 2: except during the summerfest period we're in, not because hardly
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  Speaker 2: anybody rides it. But when we spent this lots of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: construction workers dug up all the streets and laid down
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  Speaker 2: the super tracks. There's a company, it was it Semens,
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember who made the trolleys. They got big
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  Speaker 2: contracts off of those. Then there's all the parts. That
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  Speaker 2: thing is always breaking down. Somebody's selling all those parts.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the school referendums. Do you know who comes
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  Speaker 2: up with the big money to get these school referendums past?
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  Speaker 2: The architectural firms, that design firms, the construction companies. They're
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  Speaker 2: lobbying to spend tens of millions of dollars that they
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  Speaker 2: will be the recipients of. Why wouldn't you want somebody
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  Speaker 2: to build a really expensive school if you're the company
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: that builds the school. There was a time that the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Live a Healthy Life people that this was an entirely
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: liberal movement. I used to joke about the outposts which
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: might still be around those food co op things, you know.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I laugh about the beans sprouting in crowd and so on.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: That was once the left. It isn't anymore. The left
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: is so tied to leeching off of, to be parasites
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: off of all of these programs that they're loyal to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: not the principle, but to who's bankrolling them. This Woman's
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: organization is bankrolled by the big food lobby. We've seen
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the same thing happen with regard to how the left
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: has hooured itself out and some on the right to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical industry. I'm not a critical per se of
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical industry. They do want some wonderful things, but
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: they make way more money on brand new drugs underpatent
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: than on generic medication. All of us who have prescriptions,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and I got a lot of them, you go to
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the store before you meet the deductible. Some of the
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: prescriptions are they're close to free because they're a generic
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and anybody can sell them, and others hundreds some of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the GLP ones were in the thousands initially. Well, the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: drug companies are pushing that's where they make the money.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Why are the lefties showing a vested interest in them
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: making money? During COVID, we had all sorts of really
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in inexpensive ways to come back COVID to help you
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: perhaps not if you got it, not suffer as badly,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: build up your immune system, take vitamin C, Vitamin D.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Defficiency was a huge cofactor in whether or not you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: get COVID. Anybody who dared bring that up was called
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a quack, even though obviously it was true. And they're
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: being called quacks by people that were pushing really expensive
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: medication solutions. And the biggest one was these vaccines that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: three companies two in particular made absolute fortunes because the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: government bought up all the this Maha movement that I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: don't think prompts fully comfortable with, which is a shame,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: and I'll grant you it is inflationary unless you're gonna
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: simply make all your stuff at home and do all
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the cooking from scratch. Eating healthier can be more expensive
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: than eating crap. Not always, but the Maha movement has
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: moved from the left to the right because the left
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: abandoned the notion of healthy anything, because they've hoored themselves
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: out to everybody that bankrolls their groups. The next story
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: nothing to do here with how we spend money or
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: so on, but it does deal with that principle that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I was stating earlier about how compassion and big government
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: don't mesh. There's this big argument going on right now
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: over the fact that the United States Supreme Court, which
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Trump's batt in about sixty forty and there are two
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: bad Supreme Court rulings today, but this was a good one.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Last week they ruled that Trump has the right to
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: end the program called TPS Temporary Protected status. Temporary Protected
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Status was a way of giving essentially automatic asylum to
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: people from certain nations. They didn't have to go through
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the normal long asylum process and prove anything. The program
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: is called temporary because it's meant to deal with a crisis.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The program in and of itself, I don't think is bad.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: It's the whole issue that we have about whether or
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: not we should have to We haven't declared war before
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: we can begin hostilities. It's not World War two anymore
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: where it takes weeks to gin up a military. In
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: some instances you've got to move within five seconds. Weaponry
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and warfare has changed. Likewise, if you have a certain
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: brand news suddenly breaking imminent refugee crisis, a compassionate nation
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: may say, hey, temporarily cut the red tape and allow
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: people to come here temporarily to escape death. It's whatever
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: they're escaping. The word is temporary. Trump is ending it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: for certain nations, including Haiti, and the left of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: media is going crazy. The program is temporary. The program
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: isn't called PPS permanent protected status. It's temporary. We see
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: this for ever. There was a big debate in Wisconsin
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: over childcare funding during COVID. We passed a temporary program
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: to provide extreme increases in funding essentially for daycare and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: daycare for older kids, because you had the incredible pressures
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: going on. Of the kids weren't in school because they
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: were closed, but many parents still had to work. So
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: we created this temporary program. It expired, the Republicans of
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the legislature didn't want to extend it, and the left
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: is screaming, but you have to. This will create a hardship.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. When the lefties are very, very
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: shrewd about this stuff with regard to spending money, they
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: know that all you have to do is turn the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: focid on. It's impossible to turn that damn faucet off,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: even if you claim it's just get the foot of
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the door, get the money started. We'll raise holy hell
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: if they try to stop spending the money, even if
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we say it's temporary. I am, as many of you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: not an opponent of aggressive legal immigration. It's been the
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: basis of our country. I have been an extreme critic
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of abandoning all of the protections and principles that we
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: have had in place for as long as we've been
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a country to have orderly immigration. We support open legal
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: immigration because it can be a benefit to the United States,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: particularly if you have people who want to come here
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: who then can help make us better. I mean, you
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: gotta go. Here's a good example I'm gonna use. When
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Paul was my producer, he'd have a Seinfeld example for everything,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and I'd always have a Sopranos example for everything. This
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: is a mad Men example. That's another one of those
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: shows that just got way bigger in the era of
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: streaming than when it was on I was gonna say
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the air on cable Initially, when it was on cable,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I think was it six seven eight it went It
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: took place in the nineteen sixty so the series started
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixty and ended in nineteen sixty nine.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: But like a lot of these shows that are on cable,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: there was a long time between seasons, and the seasons
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: were short, thirteen fourteen episodes, so when it came around
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the first time, you'd watch it for thirteen weeks. A
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: year were go by, then you'd watch another thirteen and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: so on. It was many, many years, and once streaming
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: came in and all of these programs ended up on
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: one streaming service to another, people were able to watch
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: really in three weeks by binging a show that when
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I was on the originally I think I it took
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: up seven years of my life because of the times
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: it would be off there anyway, Madmen, if you haven't,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: it's considered one of the greatest TV shows of all time.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: By the way, it's the rare case of a program
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that I think I I after I watched it. I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: watched it every week when I was on, and then
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: several years later, it must have been with some streaming,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I binged it again. I almost never have this happen.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: My opinion of the program was higher after I watched
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: it the second time. And I know what the answer is.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I didn't pick up on some things the first time,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and that show was just filled with nuance, kind of
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: like The Sopranos. It's a great show. So here's my
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: example of this. There was a storyline that they had
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: and this isn't really a spoiler alert, and the same
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: way that when you talk people talk about the ending
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: of The Sopranos, it's not a spoiler alert because the
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the show isn't like, how is all of this going to?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Half of the show is in dealing with all of
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the things that are happening in the middle, they had
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: this character who was from Britain, Lane Price. He was
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: kind of an officious guy in the advertising business. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't like a creative guy or a seals guy. He
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: was at an administrator and he worked for the agency
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that was the centerpiece of the show. And they caught
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: him in besling, so they fired him, and he's freaking
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: out because he said, I'm going to lose my visa
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: a visa, and we still have visas. A visa is
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: something that allows you to stay in the United States
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: if you have work. In other words, you don't have
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to go through the process of immigration and get a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: green card. Many people do during this process, but they
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: have the visa in here which simply allows them to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: stay and the visa is granted. Okay, you're contributing the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: American economy. Is this is again the show was set
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties. The notion that he would be
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: able to overstay or anything once he lost his job.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: He ended up killing himself in the show, obviously the storyline,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: but that's how we had an immigration policy in the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: United States. It was orderly. There were exceptions if you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: were able to obtain a visa. Many of the baseball players,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: for example, operate off of visas, and sometimes you'll see
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: that somebody is late getting the spring training because they
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: didn't get to keep their visa paperwork up and so on.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: My point is, I'm a fan of legal immigration in
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: an orderly way. What we have now, let everybody come
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: into the country and don't enforce one damn rule. Trump's
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: enforcing the rule with Haiti, and the Supreme Court ruled. Again.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Of all the cases in front of the Supreme Court,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: this is one of the in which you knew that
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Trump would get the six Conservatives. Two of those conservatives
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: often flopp to the other side because this is clear.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: The program's a temporary protection program. So Trump has the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: right to say that the temporary. He's the government. He says, okay,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: this is the time period. This is how long you
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: get to say. The program, by the way, is set
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: up for eighteen months. But some of these people have
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: been here for years and years and years and years.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: When these things are created, though the left, you sell
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: them to the rest of us by saying this is
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a temporary fix. We have a crisis, this is temporary.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Don't worry. These people won't be here permanently. But then
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: they are and they don't want anybody to end the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: temporary status of a program that has temporary in its name.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: The word temporary, that's the key in the name. And
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: then they say, well, would you want to send somebody
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: back to Haiti? Of course, I don't want to live
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: in Haiti. I'm not nuts. I wouldn't want to be
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: said anywhere else. Unlike the lefties of way in America,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I realize we got it awfully good here and I
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: do believe there should be an aggressive legal refugee program
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: from Haiti with proper vetting of people. What are the
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: problems here is that a lot of people came from
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Haiti and tfs have been criminals. Most though aren't. Haitian
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: refugees are the same as talk show hosts, plumbers, lawyers, actors.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Most they're good people, some are creeps and if you
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: are in between. But when we didn't do any vetting
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: of them, when they all come in, you get a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: lot of people in who cause trouble in addition to
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: those who are wonderful people. The wonderful people are the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: people who should be able to reapply to come to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the United States, and we should err on the side
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of letting them come legally with proper processing, and if
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: they do anything they shouldn't do, immediately deport their damn ass.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: There's a big story in Fox News today, it's on
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: their website about how the dsay Democratic Socialist of America
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the Marxist fresh from their big victories in New York,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: knocking out several Democrat incumbent congressmen in primaries and defeating
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: them with Marxist They're now going to turn their attention
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to three other states that all have primaries coming up
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: this summer. One of them is Wisconsin. The headline of
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the story Mam Donnie Back. Socialists look to take New
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: York playbook nationwide after primary victories, and they then draw
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: attention to several states that have primaries coming up this summer,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: and Wisconsin is one of them. The people who have
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the most to lose in this, obviously, they are patriotic
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Americans if the Democrat Party just gets turned over to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Marxist and instead of being stupid ass progressives, that become
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: something far worse, open communist Marxists. But the second group
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that has a lot to lose are regular Democrats have
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: been lefties forever and been in that party, who are
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: now seeing their careers threatened by less qualified candidates solely
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: because the less qualified candidate is a Marxist and that's
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: what's selling and Democrat primaries. The most perfect example of this,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and it's close to perfect Democrat race for governor. The
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: front runner is Francesca Hag She's a Marxist and she's
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: got a paper trail of statements that is unabashedly Marxist.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: This is a woman who says she doesn't want us
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to have any prisons. She calls herself an anti capitalist.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: She's not using that lingo anymore, but she said it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: And there's not a lot of disavowing of this, in
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: the same way that the Mamdani back candidates in New
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: York and Mamdani himself, they didn't back away from it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Although we're socialists and I've done a couple of segments
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: on this and i wrote a newspaper column on it,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: so I don't want to believe in this one. But
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the only people who can stop this are the Democrats themselves.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Right now, a lot of the Democrats strategists, they're trying
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to because they think the biggest
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: chance the Republicans have of winning is if the Democrat
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: candidate is somebody who's essentially a communist who calls herself
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a socialist and advocates policies that are clearly Marxist, that
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: might be a bridge too far. One of the problems
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: that they face is the guy that's in second place
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: of the polls. They don't want him either, Mendela Barnes,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: because A he's an idiot. B he's got a closet
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: full of skeletons, and see he's already won run statewide
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: and lost. He lost statewide in a big Democrat year.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Twenty two. Twenty two is a big year for the Democrats.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: They even won the governorship that year, with Tony Yvers
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: winning a second term, and it wasn't it was closed,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't real, real close when he beat Tim Michaels.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But Ron Johnson still managed to keep a sentence seat
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: because Mendela Barnes was such a terrible candidate that some
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: swing voters act who voted for Tony Evers went over
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and voted for Ron Johnson, a clear conservative. So the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: workers haddis they don't want Mendela Barnes either their alternative
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: It appears to be to try to rally all of
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the mainstreamers around Sarah Rodriguez. She seems to be winning
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the primary within a primary. Of the non Marxist Democrats,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: David Crowley would be another one who's in the non
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Marxist category. Missy Hughes was, she's already out of the race.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Joel Brennan's another one. Yet they had another one of
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: their forms. Sarah Rodriguez refuses to call out Francesca Han.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: She simply will not attack her Marxist policies, and all
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: over the country Democrats are refusing to attack the Marxist
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: for being Marxist. It's actually the damnedest thing, because the
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: one thing that Democrats want is power, and this is
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: the rare case of where you have different groups of
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Democrats vying for that power. It's remarkable for me to
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: see Sarah Ornaguez, is a lefty, be so timid about
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: winning the election. You're not going to beat Francesca Hang,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: who's the front runner, unless you knock her down a
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: few pegs. You've got to take some of these Democrats
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that are leaning toward her but aren't completely insane themselves,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: and call her out for a radicalism. If you don't,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: she's going to win. One of the biggest reasons that
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the Democrats, Socialists, the DSA people, the socialists are is
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: they're eviscerating the regular Democrats. Mamdani's back candidates and the
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: congressional races lit up and torched those incumbent Democrats, all
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: of whom were really liberal, and the regular liberals didn't respond.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: They're terrified of attacking these people. Now I get the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: people that they would be attacking and getting into this
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: bleeping match with play really dirty, and now they're getting
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: some of the medicine that my side has had directed
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: from them from the unhinged radical left. But my belief
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: is that the socialists are just taking over the Democratic
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Party because the rest of the Democrats are refusing to
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: fight back and try to stop them. History. You want
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: a history lesson, This is actually history that occurred before
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I was born World War Two. Now I'm not even
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: being over the condescending because you know, as I've read
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: so many emails over the years, some first Millennials and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: now gen Z, a lot of them talk about how
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: they came upon my program and the raid they became
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: long term listeners is they learned all this stuff from me,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: because nobody else ever explained anything in a way that
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: would make sense to them. World War two there were
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: two teams, the Axis and the Allies. And again I
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: know most of you know this. The Allies was Western
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Europe and US and Russia, and the Axis was Germany,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Italy and Japan. It was a two front war, the
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: war in Europe and the war in the Pacific. Russia
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: was on our side. Hitler not only wanted to take
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: over Western Europe, he wanted to take over eastern Europe.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Many is kind of in the middle of Europe. On
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: its rear end you had Poland Romania, and as you
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: keep going the other countries Yugoslavia, which is north go
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: farther back, you've got Russia. They wanted all of that
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: on the rear end, and they wanted to push then forward.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just using the visual of left versus right. And
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: as they pushed forward, Western Europe fell. There was a
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: battle going on for Britain, but France had already fallen,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: the Netherlands had fallen. Those sides had fallen, but there
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: was a monster war in it, and we weren't so
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: much involved in this war. We were fighting the war
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: in Western Europe. The Russians were fighting the war in
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Eastern Europe. So the war ends. Germany lost, Japan lost,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Russia was our ally in this war. Show was communist.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: We fought the war because this is clearly a case
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: of the enemy of my enemy as my friend. The
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Nazis were looking for total domination. The Russians didn't want that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: We didn't want it. So we're on the same side,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: all right. Now, the war ends. Remember the Russians are Communists,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: are pals in this. This was before communism was totally disproven. Again,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: we're talking nineteen forty five is when the war ended.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: There were lots of American lefties who were communists, not
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: just the ones that Joe McCarthy said were communists. There
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: were out and now communists. It was a major movement
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: in this country, and there was an even larger group
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that were socialists. They pressed for control of the Democratic
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Party in the United States. One of their leaders was
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Henry Wallace, who was a powerful inside Democrat. He was
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: in the Roosevelt administration. When Truman got the Democratic nomination,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Henry Wallace ran as a third party candidate. There was
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: a massive fight within the Democratic Party for the regular
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Democrats to beat the socialists. By the way, the same
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: battle was going on in Milwaukee through the first half
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: of the twentieth century. The Republicans existed, but it was
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: basically Democrats and socialists, and they battled a lot. The
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Union movement was strongly anti socialist, very anti communists. The
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: aflcio George Meeni in that bunch, very anti communist in workers' rights,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: but they didn't believe in socialism. They were capitalists and
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: the Democrat, the regular Democratic Party, won that fight. The
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: socialists were driven into an irrelevancy. Only one to two
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: percent of Americans that called themselves socialists, and they ended
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: up running third party candidates for the next twenty to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: thirty years. Even when the Democrats turned left when they
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: went to McGovern in nineteen seventy two, it was forty years,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: fifty years nearly before any of them would ever admit
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to being socialists, even though they were pushing socialism. Like
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: my point wise that they held off the socialist because
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: they attacked and fought. Where's the fight now? So I
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: until I see some sign of willingness to take these
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: people on? And one of them would be to start
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: going after Francesca Hang and saying where Wisconsin Democrats were
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: not communists, this woman's a communists loaned from Madison. She
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: isn't going to win the general election, and she's terrible
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: for our state. If they don't say this, they're gonna
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: lose their whole damn party. But so far as I say,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: they're wimping and barely peeping, which brings us to this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Francesca Hang, she's just paid her credit card bill. Now,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: this is such a revealing story. It was reported a
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago that Hang has a ten year
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: old thirty thousand dollars credit card bill that she hasn't
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: paid for a decade. When the story goes this is perfect,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: What a surprise that a Marxist doesn't think she should
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: have to pay her bills. And you know, she muttered
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: out some explanation while struggling person trying to make ends meet.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: All this crap that people say. In reality, she didn't
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: pay the credit card debt because she was she was
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: able to get away with not paying it. Usually you
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: have to file for a BA. In this case, she
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: must have held them in abeyance. But they eventually filed
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: suit against her, and it was probably one of those
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: cases at the credit card companies level. When you have
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: a high balance and you make the minimum payment every month,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: because the minimum payment is just the interest, they're making
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: a fortune off of you. But when you stop making
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the minimum payment, that's when they freak out because now
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: they're afraid that you're not going to pay the whole
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: thing at all, and they're going to be the ones
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: holding this big long term bag, so they suit her.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: This reminds me this goes back a number of years.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I don't have to be specific about it anymore, but
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I used to write my column for two separate newspaper companies.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Now my column appears only in the conly media newspapers.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Walkershaw Freeman is one of them, and if you see
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: my column in printer on their website in one of
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: the papers, I'm in one of them. But there's another
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: company that I also wrote a column for. I wrote
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: a separate column. I won't name it. They must have
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: been struggling because they were always a slow pay and
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: anybody who is in business knows that when you have
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a slow pay, you often put up with it because
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: ultimately they always paid. It was just slow. Well, it
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: got worse and worse and worse and worse, and I
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: made numerous appeals and I'm just thinking, I can't believe
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: they're not paying me. I could go on the radio
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: and call this company a bunch of dead beats. Why
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: are of all the people the stiff Why were they
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: stiffing me? I hired a lawyer, we fouled a suit
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the next day, paid inful. Obviously I should have sued earlier.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: In the other hand, I got the money. I stopped
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: writing the column form. I don't need to mention who
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: it is because this goes back. This is fifteen twenty
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: years ago. My recollection is correct. Obviously, if they paid
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: me the day after I filed the suit, they could
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: have paid me all along. Same thing with Francesca Hang.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: She could have clearly paid this all along. So what's
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the expiation here? According to the story on js online,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: friends and family paid it off for she was able
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to pay it off to family support and personal sacrifice.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Campaign spokesman Becky Cooper said, why didn't she make the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: personal sacrifice before the story was in the newspaper while
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: she's running for governor again? It reminds me of the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: company that wouldn't pay me for the newspaper columns. You
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: would think that Francesca Hag went, okay, I'm running for governor,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: that her credit card deadbeatism is gonna come up now again.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: They just suit her, and maybe they suit her knowing
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: she's running for governor. She can't stand this publicity. Maybe
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: we'll finally get money out of this deadbeat. This speaks
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: to her character. She just figured I don't have to
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: pay and now that it was now something that was
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: clearly going to be used against her. I don't know
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: if any of the Democrats were going to use it
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: against him, becau as I say, they're just whimping around
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: with her. But if she won the nomination, trust me,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Tiffany's campaign would have been using it right and left,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: so she had to pay it. If this debt is
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: being paid by campaign contributors off the books, that's a crime.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: If this is simply a bunch of key Democrats who
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to win, that's a contribution, and contributions need to
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: be listed in there's a max on them. There's no
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: law against me giving Jason a lot of money. But
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: if I'm giving Jason a lot of money to avoid
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: a negative story. Well, Jason's running for office, then that's
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: a campaign contribution that has to be declared family support, etc.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: But did she get it before? And the answer is
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: because she's a deadbeat. Some people are deadbeat simply because
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: they get in over their heads with problems. They get
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: medical bills, too many kids. Often this, you know, these
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: overspending by one spouse leads to divorce. I've seen this
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: a million times. I would say money, more than anything else,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: is the number one reason why couples get divorced. Would
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: you agree with that, Jason, Yeah, there's lots of reasons,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: but I'm just saying that would be the number one.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: But Francesco Hung she's been in the state legislature. Do
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: you know how much money they make. She only gets
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: half the per diem, but she gets a per diem.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: The per diem is the travel is the expenses that
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: they give, say a legislator from Green Bay or Superior,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: who has to obviously overnight in Madison. They either have
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: to have a monthly rental, They've got to buy restaurant food,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: they got to stay in hotels and so on. She
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: lives in Madison, they give them. The Dane County representatives
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: get half the per diem of everybody else. Why do
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: they get Eddie? She gets to go home and sleep
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: in her own bed. The pay for members of the legs,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. It's up there. It's
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: sixty to seventy or so for a part time gig,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: and many of them have other jobs. Anyway, she paid
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: it off. I've yet to see a story in the
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: media from anybody pressing her and sticking a microphone in
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: her face saying why didn't you pay it off before?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: If you could pay it off now. I tell you this,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: if Tom Tiffany was running around with tons of credit
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: card debt, there would have been no first of US
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Canada's candidacy would be finished. If a Republican businessman has
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: a bankruptcy in their past, they have a startup and
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: it doesn't work, you'll hear about, you know, when this
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: woman's been running around in Madison, gallivanting around, flitting around
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the hoity toity Marxist circles in Madison, and I don't
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: know how many other debts she has. The only reason
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: we know about this one is because they suit her. No,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: this is This podcast is being recorded Monday afternoon. It
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: is appropriate that we have a heat wave of now
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: hitting Wisconsin, and so far as I can tell, it's
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: hitting the whole country. The whole country's over ninety right now.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: There's like the northwestern part of the US is the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: old one. You see those color coded weather maps. Everything's
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: that really orange color. The whole country, with the exception
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: of the northwestern United States. It's appropriate to break this
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: up because Europe beat us to the punch for the
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: last several weeks. There's been a real heat wave in Europe.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: When I saw it was over ninety in London, that
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: just boggles my London's always cold. When I went to
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Royal Ascot when our horse ran there about a decade ago,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: it was in the low seventies and everybody said, boy,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: you got the warmest week we got the I mean
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: it's banking and France. There's a story to be told
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: about that, and I'm going to tell it in just
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: a brief moment here on the Mark Belling Podcast. This
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast. I find this story amusing.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I know you are not supposed to take the light
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: in problems of other people. There's a term for that.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Do you know what the term is? I eventually made
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Paul remember it because I said it so many times.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: You know, Jason Long German word shien freud. It's taking
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: mischievous delight in the misfortune of others. Like you see
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: somebody like you know, they got hurt, but like when
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: somebody trips it falls admitted, it's always funny. I mean,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want them to get hurt or anything like that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: But if some goof that, you know as well, Like
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: you know, if Jerry Bot was walking down the hallway,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: he already tripped and fell. To tell me, you wouldn't
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: find that hilarious. But for that matter me, can you
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: imagine if I tripped and fell and everybody saw it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, God doesn't want us to do this, but
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I can't help it in this instance. There are The
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: story was reported at the tail end of last week.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: We're in, obviously the huge European vacation season. Overwhelming numbers
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: of tourists go to Europe in the summer because they're winners.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Other than way in Northern Europe, their winners are milder
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: than ours, but their summers they're beautiful, and there are
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: all these American tourists in France raising holy hell, demanding
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: their money back because their hotels aren't air conditioned. Apparently
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: a few of the really big five star ones are,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: but the countryside inns and villas, the public places, the restaurants.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: France has this thing. They've prided themselves on this for years.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: You know, French are just so up. They have the
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: sense of incredible superiority based on absolutely nothing. France is
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: known to be good for cooking. Other than that, what
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: is France known to be good for? Well, that's what
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. That's something in which this actual success. You know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: you just don't associate much. But despite this, the French
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: have always had this attitude of superiority even over the
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: rest of Europe, and the French to stay in air conditioning.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: It's interesting that this is one of the few hoity
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: twenty lefty global I'm holier than thou causes that our
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: left has it embraced that. I know what it is.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Our lefties don't want to be sitting around sweltering either.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: They want to They'll take the air conditioning anyway. All
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: these Americans over there demanding refunds because there's no air conditioning.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: You know how much sympathy I have for them. None.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I really think I should have some sympathy.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: But you know, all the hotels, if you look up
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: at the travel guides, they all say which ones are
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: air conditioned, which ones aren't. End Usually I can get
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: hot in the center of the country, but even along
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the Rivi Era it's usually rather temperate in the summer
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: because of the breezes and so on. The thing of
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the French is they believe that air conditioning is bad
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: for the environment, because of air conditioning requires the use
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: of fossil fuels to power electricity, and it's bad for
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: the planet and all that crap. Now it's not just
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the American tourists, it's the Frenchies themselves. I mean, it's
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: been like a hundred in parts of that country for
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: like three weeks. It's way hotter than normal for almost
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: And again, France is a big country north to south.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: The south of France is always you know, that would
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: be like almost our Pacific coast, the River Era. But
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the center of the country can get really, really, really hot.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: And it's really hot not only in France but in
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: all of Europe, and the heat waves been going on
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: for some time, and the French people themselves are now suffering.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you something. There are certain places
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: where you don't want to be, where people are all
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: sweated out, and France is one of them. The percentage
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: of women in the planet that don't shave their armpits,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I swear France has half of them. Those of you
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: who go on to friends admit it. There are places
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: in which it just this smelly. Now. Of course I
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: can have this opinion because I'm not in Europe right now.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: And it's like when there's whenever there's a problem on
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: a cruise ship, all the people who don't take cruises
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: because they don't want to spend the money on a cruise,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: they kind of like that they awe that ship is
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: strated at sea or this problem. I have good, good,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: good good. I don't want to fall into that category,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: but okay, I'll feel a little badly for a European
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: country that has their conditioning, where people are suffering and
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the heated they're not prepared for it and all of that.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I have zero sympathy for the Friends, and I have
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: zero sympathy for American tourists who are going over to
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: the you know, another count They go over there and
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: it's seventy one degrees and they have the windows open. Oh,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: you don't need our conditioning. There's so much more enlightened
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: and progressive than us. That's what they all come back.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: So they're over there hotter than hell. Now the heat
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: here in Wisconsin is just now starting. I know. I
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: have listeners obviously all over the country, but this big,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: big heat wave. It was actually very cool last weekend.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: It's just moving in now and should last for the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: entirety of the week. And one of the I think
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: most cliches are true, which I've explained this many times.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: How would something become a cliche unless it was true.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: One of the truest it's not the heat, it's the humidity. Well,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: it's true. Eighty five with low humidity is I think wonderful.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Eighty five where the due point is eighty four is
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: rather oppressive, I say, rather, And we've had weather like
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: this forever. The TV stations of the media are just
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: so over the top right now with everybody's going to
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: die from this, We're going to be closing everything all
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: wake You just know that this is coming, and because
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: it's tied to the weekend of the fourth of July.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: You watch most companies have the third as a holiday already.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: They're going to start closing businesses on the first and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: the second so that people can turn this into like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: five day weekends. I love that we have to close
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: the business. Well, that doesn't mean how do people avoid
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the heat because they've closed the business is? In fact,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I would think that more businesses our air conditioned than homes. Now.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I admit I wouldn't want to work on a road
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: crew during this. I wouldn't want to be somebody doing construction.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be up on any roof in
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: any you know, at a time like this. But I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: mean the level of overreaction that we have is case.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: It's I was in Florida a week and a half
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: ago in South Florida. It was in the low nineties
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: and very muggy hot even there. It's hot right now
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: everywhere usually Florida in the summer gets into southern Florida
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: to the upper eighties. It was. I mean, it was
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: hot even there, but they're used to that. They get nineties,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: they get that kind of weather. All that. I didn't
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: see anybody drop it over dead. You always have to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: worry about the elderly and people whose houses get really
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: hot and they don't have ac and they don't have
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: much money. But that problem isn't a greater now than
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: it's been at any other time in our history. Not
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: of this story. I'm telling you. If you want to
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: find a fascinating American sports story right now, it's the WNBA,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: This Caitlin Clark thing, which is now this is it
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: boiled over? Isn't the right word. This story has simply exploded.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: The WNBA has been, in comparison to the amount of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: money that was meant promoting it, been one of the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: most unsuccessful sports leagues ever. They've been subsidized by the NBA,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: which is what kept them afloat. They have had almost
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: no general fan interest at all. Most casual fans could
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: name in the history of women's basketball two to three players.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Then this phenomenon occurred, and it started when she was
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: in college. Caitlin Clark. She's kind of a throwback player
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: in that she's just a great shooter. She's entered the WNBA,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: which has elevated the platform of the WNBA games that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: she's playing, especially the first two years that were on
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: national television. I've got with ratings five, ten, fifteen times
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: higher than you normally get for a WNBA game. With
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: her being there, they've been able to raise the payscale
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: for players in the league. Suddenly the league has a following.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I would compare this to the big break in America
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: where pro basketball became more popularly. College basketball was when
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Magic Johnson and Larry Bird went from college to the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: NBA was seventy eight to seventy nine somewhere in that era,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: and then the second big wave was when Michael Jordan
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: came in, where individual superstars elevated the entire sport. The
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: best example of this, I think is the impact Tiger
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Woods had in golf. Golf in terms of fan interest,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: was really lagging after the era of Palmer and Nicholas Trevino.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: There were not a lot of stars that casual fans
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: paid any attention to. A lot of the players were
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: generic and lacked personality. Then Tiger Woods came along, an
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: interest in professional golf exploded, and sponsorship revenue came up
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: when up TV ratings went up, and therefore the purses,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: the overall payout to the players exploded. All golfers benefited
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: from Tiger Woods's presidence in the game. The thing that's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: fascinating about the WNBA is the players and just about
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: everybody else associated with the league. They're not happy about this.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: The simplest explanation is she's white and they don't like that.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Now some of them have essentially come out and said
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: this Britney Grinner's MoMA white girl. There are many others
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: say the only reason any of you people are paying
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: any attention to THEWNBA is because she's white. Well, let's
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: imagine that's true. So what you're the beneficiary of it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: By the way, I don't think that there's much to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: back that up. The too big I think think elevations
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: the NBA had were one a an African American and
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: a white star came in Bird and Magic, and then
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan was one of the most popular
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: athletes ever when he came in. It's black guy. You
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: didn't need to have a white guy come in to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: become the star in face of the league and become
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: a figure that people non basket one of the most
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: recognizable faces on the planet. The fact that Caitlin Clark
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: is white might have something to do. That was to say,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: it's the only reason just it's not born out with
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: the history and any other sport that we have. But
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: even if it was true, I'll relate this to my
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: own career. Rush Limbois created careers for hundreds of talk shows.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: There was almost no conservative talk radio at all before
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Rush came around. The station that I was at in
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Madison go back down to nineteen eighty eight was one
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: of the few stations that was doing full scale talk
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: prior to Rush, and we were an original Rush affiliate.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: The first day he signed on, he was on our
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: station over there. They were only like sixty stations initially.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: He ended up being one hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: of stations, and these stations that put him on. Russia's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: show was three hours a day, even if you did
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: a replay, which many stations did in the middle of
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the night. Max six hours said hey, what are you
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: going to do with the other eighteen These stations changed
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: formats and became talk stations, which meant there was a
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: need to hire all of these talk shows. Rush was
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: obviously the most successful and made way more money than
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: any of the rest of us. I've never heard a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: single talk show host begrudge the money that Rush Limball made.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Why would you he put talk radio on the map.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: When I came to WYSN, Rush was not yet on
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: the air here, but they put him on shortly after
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I was here, as they sort of moved toward full
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: actual There were talk station here, but it was soft talk,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the kind of stuff that TMJ had been
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: doing forever. It wasn't really issue oriented, and it certainly
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: was an opinion driven and it was not conservative. But
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I came on, Rush was growing. Rush boomed immediately they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: put him on. My show was one of the few
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: in the country in which I outperformed Russia on WYSN
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: most of these stations, Rush did way better than the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: local hosts, but that created the opportunity for us to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: hire everybody else. Jay Weber came on only a couple
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: of two three years after I was here. He ended
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: up with a career off of that, based not only
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: in successive Rush, but on the success of mind. Jay
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Webber begrudge my success. The guy that begrudged my success
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: was Charlie Sykes. He went over to WTMJ was hell
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: bent on beating me. I never wanted to hear that
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Charlie was taking a pay cut or anything if I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: ever found out, And I never did. What Charlie was
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: being paid over there, and it was more than me
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: at first a I gotta paid more than him, and
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he would use that to me. It's good
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: for everybody in a field if somebody thrives. So why
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: did the WNBA players hate Caitlyn Clark so much? They
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: didn't hate any of the other They didn't hate Britney
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Griner when she came in. The story has taken on
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: a greater meaning this year. Coach. She's with the Indiana franchise.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: The Indiena Fever came out last week and blasted the league,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: saying players are fouling Caitlin Clark harder than other players
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: and nothing's being called. The NBA, the men's sport, for
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the longest time, had special treatment for its superstars. I mean,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: anybody who followed the NBA knew that you couldn't touch
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. He The thing that was so upsetting about
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: that is you didn't need to give Michael Jordan breaks.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: And back in the era in which the NBA had
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: these high profile almost celebrity refs. There's huge home court
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: advantages because the superstars got all the calls, especially when
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: they were at home. The NBA has tried to stop that,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: and I think that largely they have. I don't think
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: there's anywhere near as much star treatment as there was
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: in the past. And just the treat that Yanni's got
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee every time he went to the basket, it
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: seemed to me that he has followed and rarely were
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: those things called. It may still exist, but it's at
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: a minor level. The odd thing with Caitlin Clark is,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: according to her coach, you had a certain player when
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: they go into the lane. Yet Caitlin at the exact
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: same level, they refuse to make to make the call,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: and she's now getting hurt constantly. Some of the hits
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: on her are that she's being punched in the throat
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: and rather than cracked down on the goose that's laying
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: the golden egg, the league itself is doing nothing. The
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Indiana franchis to say through the coach, the coach is
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: just beside herself that her player is being banged around
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: and now injured bad back. She's being slammed to the ground,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: hit in the throat, that she's being that, not that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: she isn't getting star privileged, that she's not being treated
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: fairly at all. All right, the players hotead's jealous of her,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: whatever reason. The owners of the teams and the people
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: who run the league, how in the world are they
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: so dumb that they're letting this happen? Since Clark entdered
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: This is a story from the Athletic dot Com. Since
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Clark entered the league, opponents have defended her with zeal
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: as one would expect. Sometimes their follows have been flagrant,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: and they haven't always been called that way. On the court.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Has Clark been targeted while the league's officials have declared
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: open season on her? Or is the league merely treating
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: her like any other player? This week it felt like
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: the former, In other words, that the league was simply
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: refusing to provide any protection for her. Has Clark faced
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: two faced two uncalled cheap shots her coaches, words by
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: members of the Phoenix Mercury. It's not clear if those
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: players led to the injury that now has Clark on
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the shelf. Some of the roughing up of Clark has
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: been over the top, unnecessary and uncalled. There was no
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: reason why Alyssa Thomas needed to press her fist on
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Clark's neck during a loose ball scramble Wednesday. The league
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: agreed after the fact when it was ruled the play
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: was a flagrant too, and gave Thomas the associated one
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: game penalty. You can see why the Fever are angry
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: given Clark's injury history. Here's clearly what's happening. She's battered
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: goods right now. If you follow any professional sport, once
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: in the athletes starts developing injuries, it just spirals they
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: become injury prone. There's nothing that would indicate she's a
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: ma lingerer. She's quite the competitor. This is a fascinating story, however,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: in which and I really can't come up with a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: parallel where a sport and its participants and officials so
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: resented the emergence of a transcendent player that even though
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: it's brought them all associated success, they don't water. It's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: as I say, it's bizarre, and I I mean, the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: only other thing I can come up with is historical.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was tremendous resentment in baseball broke the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: color barrier when Jackie Robinson became the first African American
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: to play baseball, and a lot of the white players
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: and some of the fans didn't want to see a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: black player play. Well, that door was opened very quickly
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: because after Jackie Robinson, African Americans came in in huge
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: numbers and it turned out to be great for the game.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: All sorts of black superstars came in. There was a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: time in which in the fifties and sixties where I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: would say more than half the great players were black.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: It's certainly not that way anymore in the United State.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: It's nonetheless that was simply out and out racism. So
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: maybe that's how we explain this. But at the time,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: when Jackie Robinson came into baseball right away that first year,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: it didn't make baseball more popular. Gradually it did, But
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark immediately changed the popularity of that league because
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: she came with so many people who had followed her
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: from college. If you work at a business in which
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: employees are pitted against one another, maybe there'd be that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: type of resentment. But what she has done is elevated
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: the salaries and level of interest and marketability of everybody
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: for all of the teams in the league. When her
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: team comes into town to play, they sell more tickets,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Yet they seem to not stand her. And as I say,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: it's one thing when some of the hot there's this
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: player Angel who she's like the bad girl of THEWNBA.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: She's also overrated. She gets traded again, and she's one
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: of those when they do the analytics, it's not as
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: good as some of her stats are because of the
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: number of she just shoots all the time. She's a ballhog,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: and she misses a lot of shots. And she just
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: resented Caitlyn Clark and shows elbowing her and banging her own. Okay,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: that's one thing you've got to loose cannon over. Their
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: sports have always had that. Players have just resented another star.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: That doesn't explain the ownership of all the other teams
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: they control the commissioners. If the league wanted to end
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: all of these non calls against Kaitlyn Clark, they tell
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: the referees start officiating the game on the straight up.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: But clearly even some of the refs out like her.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: It's not a sexist thing. I've just never gotten really
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: into women's basketball. There are all sorts of women's sports
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: that I'm a fan of. I'm particularly a fan of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: the sports in which the women's version of the sport
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: is really like. You know, I have a long background
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: a fast pitched softball there. It almost is non existed
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: at the male level. But it's a big, big college sport,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: the College Softball World Series. I like watching those games.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: I like women's hockey because the Wisconsin team is whenever
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: you have your own team is really great. The Wisconsin
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: program's the greatest in the history of the sport. I
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: followed that it's just at the style of WNB. I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: don't know. I watched the games, I just never really
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: got into it. If I had been one of those
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: that started watching every game once Caitlin Clark came in
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: because she is Her highlight reels are incredible. She's just
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: a great shooter. I think, what's the point now if
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: she's not gonna play, if she's constantly hurt and you're
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: just watching the player that you really really like, not
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: just taking hard follows and being treated the same as
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: all the other women being cheap shoted to death. This
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: would not be tolerated in the men's game in the NBA,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: when players were cheap shot Giannis. His teammates would be
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: right over there. If somebody in the NBA clotheslined Steph Curry,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: you know, swung an arm and hit him on the
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: jawline of the throat to make him slam down and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: land on his rear end and maybe his head massive suspension,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: there wouldn't be a failure. Look at the NFL and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: the rule changes they've made to protect the stars of
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: the game, the quarterbacks. The WNBA thing is just odd
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: and the only explanation that makes any sense is simply
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: overt racism. They can't stand that a white girl is
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: the most popular player in the game, even if they
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: have benefited from her popular eyes. Going back to the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Tiger Woods example, and I no one would deny the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Tiger Woods elevated golf as much as any athlete that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: has ever elevated any sport. In his case, he was
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: the rare golfer Tiger says. Tiger doesn't consider himself African
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: America because he's multi ethnic, but he certainly has dark
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: skin color. If the Caitlin clark is phenomenon is just
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: simply because she's white, then why did the Tiger Woods
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: phenomenon occur? Because he clearly, of all the things he is,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: one of them is not white. I've said many times
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Trump derangement syndrome is real. It is, I think a
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: real mental condition. This is not just cuteness on my part.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's real. So many people have done things
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: that are so self destructive harm themselves because of their
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: loathing of Trump. Were it not for Trump dearrangement syndrome,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Trump would not have won in twenty twenty four. After
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty election, whether it was stolen for him
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: or not, he would have been finished. The biggest reason
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: he came back is because they stomped on him so
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: badly that it created a groundswell of support from Republicans
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: who knew what was going on, and none of the
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: other Republicans running for president against him in twenty four
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: had a chance after that, And when the truth came
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: out that so many of these stories relies, there was
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: a vindication. But there's examples beyond that. Look at the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: number of people who've wrecked their lives with their insanity
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: toward Trump. John Bolton is now a convicted felon. And
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: the thing that's beautiful about this is the pompous asked
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: pleaded guilty. He admitted he's a criminal. Bolton's crime was
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: taking classified records to personal use. The president is the
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: only person that can classify records in the first place.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Once you leave government, you can't take anything classified Bolton did. Now,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: let's be honest about this. People have been doing this
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: in government forever, and nobody much gave paid any attention
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: to it, because unless you were talking about some like
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the nuclear codes or something, there's a lot of things
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: that government classifies as secretive that doesn't need to be.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: And it's been going on, I'm sure for many, many
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: years that somebody was Secretary of State, somebody who's in
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: high some high falutin position. They saved some stuff, especially
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: in other things that are electronic. But this all started
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: when they rated Mara Lago raided at dawn, armed agents
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: going through Milania's longer raid war looking for so called
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: classified records that the president took out of the White House.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: They never said a letter saying hey, it's you believe
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: you took some of these things you can't have those
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: who knows if Trump would have complied, They never did that.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: They instead raided his home as if he had stolen jewelry.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Trump pointed out Joe Biden after he left the vice
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: presidency and as vice president he has no access to
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: classified records. Only the president can classify. Took stuff out
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: of the White House that had it sitting in his
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: garage with this corvette. Well, one of the people that
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: got up and sanctimoniously condemned the lack of patriotism for
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: Trump's so for so being so careless the classified records
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: was John Bolton. See John Bolton is from the regular
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Republican Party and he's what one of those that simply
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: couldn't stand the fact that the mega wing took control
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: of the party and the level of ego they just
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: he became obsessed deranged with regard to Trump. So here
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: he is pointing at Trump when he's doing the same
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: damn thing. Why do he take the classified doctors? Because
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: he wanted to write a book in or to break
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: the book, He wanted to be able to cite these
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: records and use the information that he had there. He
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: did it just so he could make money by writing
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: his book. That how many people would have bought it anyway,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: It just allows him to go on the book tour
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: and act again like this senior statesman and instead he's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: a crook. I don't know that the Justice Department would
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: have been looking at people like Bolton had the President
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: had not been started when they went after Trump, because,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: as they say, people have been taking classified records and
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: they've been leaving government forever and ever and ever. Trump
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: was the first guy that they decided to make a
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: stink about. People have talked about the LBJ Library and
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: all of the stuff, the information that's been based down there. Again,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: this has been going on for the longest time. But
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: once they decided to try to criminalize what Trump did,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: it opened the door to criminalize the people who actually
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: had zero right to classified information and had a lot
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: of it, including Bolton. So now he's not only in shame,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: he's a laughing stock. And he did it to himself.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: On the program last week, I did a segment in
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: which I commented on the Arrowhead School District not allowing
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: students they have a yet the graduation students were able
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: to make like a twenty to thirty second statement, sometimes shorter,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: that they put in a slide show that they scrolled
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: along as the graduates when on stage and so on.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Several of the students had statements in which they make
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: comments about the importance of God in their life. The
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: school of is to ban those. One of the students
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: went to the school board and complained after the graduation
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: was over, she had quoted a Bible verse, and I
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: never did find out whether or not she put the
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Bible quotation at the end of it, or if she
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: just had the verse. The verse itself does capitalize the word.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: It was either he or him, so clearly we're talking
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: about God. But it wasn't even It was an Old
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Testament first, so it wasn't even Christ. But they didn't
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: let her do it, and I raised questions about this.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: I said, legally, they may have had the right to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: do so, but that didn't mean that they had to
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: do it. Someone who truly accepts the Christian message is
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: told that Christ needs to be the center point of
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: your life and nothing is secondary to Christ. So if
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: you're a young person and you believe this and you're
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: supposed to make a statement about the defining statement as
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: you leave, that is something you'd say. They didn't let
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: us say it. So I called him out on this,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: and particularly when I heard that, they said, well, we
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: got legal advice. Now, the law firm that represents an
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: inordinate number of school districts in southeast and Wisconsiny's Bulau Better.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's who gave them their advice,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: but I will tell you this, I butted heads with
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: that law firm again and again and again and again
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: and again over their crappy advice to school boards and
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: how to defy the open records law and the open
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: meetings law. So I contacted the superintend Conrad Farner, and
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: asked him a series of questions about this. He did
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: give me a lengthy reply. Since I commented on this
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: issue last week, I'm going to read as a reply,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: I may interject a couple of times to it explain
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: what it is that he's referring to, mister Belli. When
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: a public school has district staff created what a public
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: school has district staff create a graduation slide show on
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: district time, using district equipment, at a district sponsored event
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: on district grounds, set up and supervised by district administrators.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: The law generally views it as school sponsored speech, not
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: a public form. I had made the point that the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: courts have repeatedly ruled that a graduation speaker can talk
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: about religion and God if they want, because you don't
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: have the right to censor someone's religious views. You do,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: as a government, however, have a right to censor the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: individual views of government employees. Which is the distinction that
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: he's making here. Under the Supreme Court ruling in Hazlewood
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: School District versus Colmyer, school administrators have the right to edit, restrict,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: and otherwise control school sponsored excessive activities, expressive activities, as
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: long as their reasons are reasonably related to legitimate educational concerns.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: You no, again, I haven't particularly quarreled with that, But
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: having a right to do something and for it to
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: be the right thing are separate things. Continuing maintaining an
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: environment that is neutral, respectful of all faiths and viewpoints,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: and focused entirely on celebrating the graduates meets this legal standard.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Portraying this is anyone being refused anything is not accurate. Well,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: it just nonsense. She wanted to say something and she
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to do it. Of course that was refused.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: But he's fribbling with my use of that word. It
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: is accurate to say a few students did not follow
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: unambiguous directions and we're simply told to do so. Now
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: we're at a semantics game. No, you can't do this,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: you have to do that? Is that refusal? Of course
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: it's refusal. But I understand, he continues, Here are the
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: exact directions given to students. So this is what they
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: told them. And by the way, since he responded, it
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: does not surprise me. He gives me the exact instructions
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: that were given to them. It's helpful to hear them.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: But of course they had instructions on this. I mean,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: if the kids who are going to have like a
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: thing on a slide show instead of just saying, say,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: fifteen seconds worth of something that's meaningful to you. Of course,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: there's gotta be rules and regulations because this is government here.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: It is seventy five characters. Max. Now I would have
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: done it by the amount of time, but there has
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: to be a limit. You don't want some blow hard
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: kid to go on for nineteen minutes. Type your post
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: secondary type, your post secondary plans, or a thank you
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: to your family example thanks mom and dad, Please don't
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: cancel the credit card. See lefty should never try to
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: use humor or. I will be studying education at the
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: University of Michigan because it is the best Inappropriate comments
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: will not be considered in accordance with policy. Comments that
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: are political, religious, or reference protecting classes, including but not
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: limited to, race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, or national origin
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: are not permitted. By defining the boundaries of the slide
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: show ahead of time, including the topics strictly to family
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: think used in future career college plans, the expectations and
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: limits were clearly articulated and established. The slide show was
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: never meant to be a form for any religious or
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: political viewpoints. It is an extremely brief picture of each
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: graduate that allows for an extremely brief thank you or
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: future plans. Again, the slide show is district sponsor speech,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: not a public forum. Students were not required to submit
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: any comments, and many did not. For those that wanted
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: to include a statement, we set clear expectations. For the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: extremely rare case where students did not follow the simple,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: straightforward directions that were given, we simply indicated that they
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: needed to follow the directions. They were still able to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: submit a comment, it just had to meet the expectations.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: When the students are given assignments, the product is expected
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: to meet the expectations of the assignment. They cannot turn
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: in whatever they want. This is common sense. I could
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: quibble here and claim that if they're graduating, they're not
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: really students and this isn't an assignment, but I get
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: the point. Continuing, we make every effort to consistently hold
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: all students to the same standards and expectations. When students
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: do not follow directions about a simple task, we redirect
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: and guide them so that they meet the expectations that
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: are able to complete the task. When they do not
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: understand a direction in class, we do not refuse them.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: We help them recognize what they did not understand and
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: work with them so that they can correct and modify
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: their work and understanding until they mastered what is expected.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: While public schools are government entities and must respect the
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: First Amendment, they are allowed to restrict entire categories of
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: speech and school sponsored media, provided they do so neutrally
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: consistent by consistently not allowing any religious or political commentary.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: It is legally appropriate all students are expected to follow
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: the same directions. The same expectations apply to all students.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: I think he's being redundant here, but as I say,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: I'll read the whole thing. As a public school district,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: we need to remain consistent and neutral. The graduation ceremony
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: is no different from being in class during a school day,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: or at an athletic event or a play. If people
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: want to say a prayer after an event at a
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: public school, the courts have upheld that practice. But when
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: you have an entire cap of audience at a public
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: school event, expression of personal, political, or religious views can
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: be limited as long as that expectation is applied consistently.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: Now I'll interject here, I don't think you could find
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: a more benign Bible verse than the young woman used.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: The notion that that is a viewpoint. That why somebody
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: else is going to come up with a viewpoint? What
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: would be the opposite of me, God didn't have a
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: damn thing to do with me graduating high school. I
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: suppose that would be the alternative. And I suppose he's
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: saying he's fearful that if we allow the student to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: make reference to God, we can allow a student to
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: get up there and say that I don't believe in
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: God and God didn't help me in my high school
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: at all. That is what he's trying to say. That
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: if we don't ban all of it, we wouldn't be
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: able to ban somebody from saying something like this. I
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: think that's stretching a point, but again he's making his point.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: And here now we get to the answer of where
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: this legal advice came from WASB. That's the Wisconsin Association
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: of school Boards attorney. I don't know who the law
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: firm is for the WASB. It would not shock me
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: if it's Buelo Vetter. Their fingerprints are in every obnoxious
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: decision school districts have handed down for the last thirty years.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: It was gone anyway. A WASB attorney has advised us
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: that if we allow religious and political views, we have
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: to allow all such views. If that was allowed, there
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: was no controlling what sorts of statements might be submitted.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: Was the student statement of you? I thought it was
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: a personal statement about herself. But again, there would be
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: significant number of questions as to what is appropriate at
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: a public high school graduation ceremony. We are limited by
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: what our resources allow us to do. We have neither
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: the time, nor the staff, nor the inclination to assess
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: and determined debate with students and parents which religious or
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: political expressions are appropriate are not appropriate as part of
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: a graduation ceremony. Now I disagree with that, because that's
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: what they did. They went where everybody's statement and they
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: gave the xt to this. So he says they don't
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: have the time to say what's appropriate or not, but
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: they did go through to decide what was appropriate or not.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: Parents and audience members will also start expressing whatever views
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: they hold, and there will, no doubt be strongly held
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: beliefs for many perspectives and ideals. We have no interest
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: in creating such a circumstance. We cannot manage such a circumstance.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: There was no open public form for religious and political
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: expression at graduation before we ever created a slide show.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: There was no one can for that to change. Merely
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: because we have a large scoreboard with video capability. We
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: want our graduation ceremony to be the same positive, greatly
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: appreciated event it has been for years, and then the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: kicker at the end. Moving forward, we will not utilize
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: a slide show at graduation. Well, I think that's the
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: correct decision here. If this thing. If a student who
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: is very religious can't at the end of her high
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: school career and they asking to say ten or fifteen
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: seconds of binalities out there, make a reference to the
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: importance of God in her life. Don't even have it,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: because if everything is simply don't cancel the credit card. Mom,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: What was the point of putting that thing up there
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: in the first place. The comment that I made last week,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: if you can't even so much as acknowledge the existence
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: of God at all out of your own voice and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: your own words in a public school, it's again my
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: great argument against public schools. If a Christian isn't making
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: God the center of their life, they're setting that's what
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Christians are taught. And if there can't be the slightest
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: the combination, a combination of Christianity, this wasn't you know,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: the statement wasn't endorsed by anyone. If they can't have that,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: it's just another argument to get kids out of public
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: schools and get them into religious schools where values are
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: not considered poisonous. The other point that I want to
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: make about, well, then we have to treat all things
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: the same. This is this whole thing that occurs with
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: the left. If we allow anyone to say anything, then
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: if we allow someone to say that, then we have
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: to allow everything to occur, and the next thing you know,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have somebody up there making a statement about
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: promoting incest. This is the loss of common sense that
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: has occurred in a society in which the people who
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: are in charge have a set of values inconsistent with
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: the way anybody else lives their life. Final point on
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: this before I go to the break. There are numerous
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: government bodies in the United States that open their session
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: with a prayer. That is, the government itself actually putting
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: on a prayer. This notion that we have to not
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: allow anyone to utter anything that is religious in nature.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: It's not new, and there is some moving back in
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: the correct decision with regard to this, but it's one
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: of the things that I think has wrecked our society.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: The loss of widespread religious belief has resulted in the
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: dramatic increase of immoral and self destructive behavior. It has
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: dramatically resulted in the increasing sense of hopelessness and feelings
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: of being lost by kids who have been raised without
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: any religion in their lives and feel a sense of
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: emptiness that, of course you would feel if you felt
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: that there was no purpose in life, and if there
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: isn't a God and there isn't anything for which to
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: live for, why would you feel that sense of purpose?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: The Constitution and that had say has been around since
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: seventeen eighty nine, was signed and ratified I think at
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: seventeen ninety one. Declaration of Independence was written in seventeen
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: seventy six, and it wasn't until about sixty years ago
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: that we got into this notion that we have to
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: excise God and religion from every element of any type
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: of public life at all, and it has not been
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: to our benefit to do so. I do wonder this,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: had they not censored the statements, and apparently six or
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: seven kids had statements about God, would their big complaints.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: It's again one of those things of which there's no
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: way of knowing. But the superintendent did respond. Conrad Farner
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: in I shared his response. You're listening to the Mark
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: I will admit that I have been wrong about Serena
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: Williams more than I have been wrong about anything else.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: I declared her washed up. I mean fifteen years ago
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: she just keeps coming back, coming back and coming back
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: and coming back, And now she gets some one of
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: the GLP ones and her body is shrinkd. She seems
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: to be a shell of herself. And she's now playing
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: tennis again. She's competing in Wyinnbledon. She's gonna first of all,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: compete in the doubles with her sister. Since she is
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: again competing, that means she's subject to drug testing and
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: she's now bitching about it. Serena Williams over the weekend
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: launched into a diettribe about how onerous the drug testing
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: is on athletes. Most sports that are doing drug testing
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: do out of competition testing. That's what we refer to it.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: In horse racing, if you simply test the horse and
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: the day of a race and no other time, the
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: illegal crap they've been put into the horse's body may
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: have cleared their sissons by that point, but the advantage
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: that they had gained is still there. So in horse
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: racing they have out of competition testing, meaning you can
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: test the horse whenever you feel like testing the horse.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: And in sports like tennis, they don't just simply test
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: you the day that you have a tennis match. They
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: can test you anytime they feel like it, and that's
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: what Serena Williams is complaining about how inconvenient this is
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: for someone as busy as her. Here's the quote. It's crueling.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: First of all, No matter what she says from this
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: point forward, it's not going to be grueling. They don't
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: drug test in the workplace here at iHeartMedia because if
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: they did, they'd even be fewer than the five employees
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: we still have left. But I don't think it would
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: be grueling. They change the rules. I didn't know some
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: of the rules. So apparently if you miss a test
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: outside of your window it still counts as missed. Well, yeah, see,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: if you miss a test, you get a strike against you.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: This is me and not the statement. This is how
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: drug testing would work. If the person doesn't show up
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: for their test, it's like a strike and it's marked
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: against you. The reason for that is obvious. What's the
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: biggest reason someone would miss a test? Because they know
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: what they have in their system. So, again, without regard
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: to whether or not she's saying something was in her system,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: she's saying, so apparently, if you miss a test outside
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: of your window, it still counts as a miss I'm like,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: I guess I can't go pick up my kids. She said,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: they don't require the test at three eighteen in the
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: afternoon precisely. Furthermore, every athlete that competes in professional tennis
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: has to undergo the exact same thing. Is she the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: only one with kids, then it's unprofessional. I hate it.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's necessary, but I think a lot of
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: the stuff. If I want to go places outside of
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: my window, I should be able to go without it
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: haven count as a missed test. So she's griping about
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: the fact that they have these windows and she's got
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: to be tested during the window. First of all, the
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: governing association here, the International Tennis Integrity Agency, says they
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: have not changed the rules. That the same rules that
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: they have had for many, many years. So her statement
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: that they've changed the rules is not operative. I'm just
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: going to make the observation I have almost never seen
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  Speaker 2: cases where people who weren't on drugs objected to drug testing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying she's cheating, but I will say that
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  Speaker 2: if she's just undergone significant weight loss, she would certainly
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  Speaker 2: benefit from something that would increase her muscle mass, because
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that the GLP ones do is
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  Speaker 2: they really erode muscle mass, and the great strength that
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  Speaker 2: she had was that she was very muscle bound. So
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  Speaker 2: she's certainly someone that you would wonder would be taking
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  Speaker 2: something artificial. Again, I'm not saying that she has, but
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  Speaker 2: she's opened this question by talking how inconvenient it is.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard any of the others bitch it about it.
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was out of competition testing. That result
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  Speaker 2: is how they caught Cornakova a number of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure of that, but I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: Now this story, Weimo has a voluntary recall of about thirty
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  Speaker 2: eight hundred vehicles. Weimo is the self driving automobile company
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  Speaker 2: that's part of Alphabet Google. There are way more cars
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  Speaker 2: operating now in a handful of cities. They're used for
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  Speaker 2: things like ride sharing. They're not being widely used because
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  Speaker 2: it's really expensive. Obviously, the thing that they're doing the
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  Speaker 2: recall here for was necessary because it said that the
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  Speaker 2: software was having difficulty with road construction hazards. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the software is built in that it can
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  Speaker 2: you know, the self driving car sees everything in front
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  Speaker 2: of you, so that if it sees a vehicle, it
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  Speaker 2: slows down. If it sees a kid on a bicycle
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  Speaker 2: if it sees anything like that. Apparently it was having
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  Speaker 2: a hard time dealing with either traffic cones or block
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  Speaker 2: signs and not understanding if it meant you could continue
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  Speaker 2: to go through. So there recalling the tweak the software.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why I bring this up. I had a first
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned I was in Florida a week and a
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  Speaker 2: half ago. Weekend before this last one, I saw for
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  Speaker 2: the first time away mo in traffic. I knew that
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  Speaker 2: there were some of them in Miami that had been reported,
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  Speaker 2: but I'd never seen one the street that I was on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, some of you will know this area, most
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  Speaker 2: of you won't. It's the one. It's one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: sixty third Street. It's one of the streets that you
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  Speaker 2: can cross the Bay from say Miami Beach and the
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  Speaker 2: cities on that side of the coast, right on the ocean,
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  Speaker 2: to get over to the larger metro area on the
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  Speaker 2: other side of the bay. There's only a handful of streets.
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  Speaker 2: Most of them are called causeways, you know, that have
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  Speaker 2: a bridge that goes across the water. One hundred and
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  Speaker 2: sixty third Street is very heavily traveled because the next
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  Speaker 2: street north to go over is one hundred ninety second,
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  Speaker 2: twenty nine blocks to the north, and I think the
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  Speaker 2: next one south is one hundred and thirty fifth, So
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  Speaker 2: if you want to cross over the water, you're either
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  Speaker 2: going to one thirty fifth or up to one ninety
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  Speaker 2: second one sixty third in between. So everybody that's on
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  Speaker 2: one side of the other that eats the cross between,
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  Speaker 2: say about one hundred and forty fourth and one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eightieth, is going to take one hundred sixty third.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a street. It's really wide. It's like six
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  Speaker 2: lanes in each direction. And you know, when there isn't
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  Speaker 2: much traffic, I think the speed limit is forty five,
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  Speaker 2: but they're almost always is traffic because as I say,
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  Speaker 2: it's just to get from one side or the other
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  Speaker 2: across the bay or the intracosal, depending on where you are,
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  Speaker 2: you have to cross that. And I mean, I knew
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  Speaker 2: what they look like. They've got like these things. They
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  Speaker 2: look like, you know, the lights of a police car
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  Speaker 2: has on top of them, but there's like a gadget.
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  Speaker 2: There's a machine with the camera and the processor and
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: it's sitting on top of them, and they paint the
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  Speaker 2: way more thing on the side, and I'm driving on
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  Speaker 2: this one hundred and sixty thirty, which is I say,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: is a very very very busy street, and often when
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  Speaker 2: you're not in rush hour, it's busy, but you can
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  Speaker 2: still be going at speed like thirty five or forty
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  Speaker 2: miles an hour and there's this way is so I
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  Speaker 2: moved to the right of it and looked over it,
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  Speaker 2: and I went over to make sure there was no
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  Speaker 2: driver in there. I think that street is one of
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  Speaker 2: the biggest pains in the asses of any street that
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  Speaker 2: I've ever been on, especially during Russi hour, and when
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: I'm down there, I have to take that thing all
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  Speaker 2: the time. If waimo can work on that street, it
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  Speaker 2: can work anywhere. Of all the advances in technology that
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: have been thrown around out there, the one that I've
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  Speaker 2: just been the most skeptical ist to whether or not
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: it could ever actually work is the driverless automobile. And
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: we simply don't know because there's so few. I mean,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: Tesla and Musk, they're obsessed with this, the robotaxi. That's
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: why this Tesla's talk price keeps going up. The Robotaxi,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: he believes, is going to change transportation, and he eventually
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: thinks that all of us are going to be in
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: the driverless cars. Alphabet, another giant tech company, also sees
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: that their company is Weimo, but we are in such
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  Speaker 2: the early stages. There's only a few of the vehicles,
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  Speaker 2: and they're only in a few cities, and they're barely
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  Speaker 2: being used at all. We're nowhere near the point where
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  Speaker 2: like say, twenty five percent of the cars in the
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: road don't have a drive it. I'm just skeptical that
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  Speaker 2: we can ever get there. It's the one thing with
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: regard to technology and automation that I'm seeing way too
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  Speaker 2: many things, way too many reasons to think that it
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  Speaker 2: isn't going to work, And among them is just I
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: just think it's gonna make gridlock even worse because the
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  Speaker 2: drivers are so safe. The wayme old you know, when
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: you're in one of these things in which you're just
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: bumper to bumper, is the way moo going to be
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: leaving too much space between the car in front of it,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: meaning everybody's just gonna cut in front of the Weymo,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: and that they, you know, the way, most certainly aren't
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: going to drive recklessly. But there's a thing with regard
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: to being too cautious and too safe when you're in
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  Speaker 2: constant traffic. Okay, and here's gonna okay, the way moo
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  Speaker 2: has to switch over three lanes of traffic. We've all
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  Speaker 2: had to do things like that. You size up your lanes,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: you look over your shoulder, and you increase your speed
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: if necessary to get over there to try to do it,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: and there's enough clearance. I just would think that some
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: of these automated automated cars, they're going to be so
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  Speaker 2: careful that there's never going to be a time that
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: they're going to come over. And do they take into
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: consideration the unanticipated guy who's going seventy five miles an
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: hour in the right lane that you never thought would
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: have gotten there at the time. But I've seen my
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: first one. It's also Miami was also the first the
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: place I saw in my first Tesla when the teslas
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: first came out. And when was the first Tesla? Was
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: that eleven? Maybe? Does that sound right? Yeah? It was
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: parked in front of Joe's Stonecrab at the Valet, and
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: I swear it was somebody who was just when it's
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: like the cybertruck now the cyber truck is like the
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: unusual vehicle that draws attention. Now there's a zillion of
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: them in Miami, and people who have those needed The
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: reason they have had cars like that is so people
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: look at you using them. Obviously, the teslas are ubiquitous now.
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  Speaker 2: But the first Tesla that I ever saw I was
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  Speaker 2: in Miami. And now the first Weimo that I saw
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  Speaker 2: actually in traffic and moving was in Miami. That's it
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  Speaker 2: for today's podcast. Monday Wednesday Thursday, we will use the
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  Speaker 2: final podcast of the week. There will be content that
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: reflects the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: States and my general pessimism about the future of the country.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: That's also the subject of my newspaper column. It'll come
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  Speaker 2: out later this week. Talk to you, sown bye.
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