Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Kehlani Speaks On New Album, Motherhood, Mental Health Journey, Advocacy For Palestine + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej Envy, Jess Hilarious,
- 0:08Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
- 0:10Speaker 2: a special guest in the building.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
- 0:14Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
- 0:15Speaker 3: I feel good. I think the last time we did this,
- 0:16Speaker 3: we might have been on a Zoom call. So it's
- 0:19Speaker 3: cool to be in person.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Yeah it was zoom. How's your spirit? How's your energy?
- 0:22Speaker 3: I'm super good. I'm like, probably the best I've ever been.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Amazing, and why is that?
- 0:28Speaker 3: I think just life is really cool. I think I
- 0:29Speaker 3: made something I'm stoked about. My fans are stoked. I
- 0:32Speaker 3: got to do all these cool signings and see all
- 0:34Speaker 3: of them in person and just like be back in
- 0:36Speaker 3: the swing of things.
- 0:36Speaker 2: So I'm good, I said. They say you're a gym wrap.
- 0:39Speaker 2: They said you up at six o'clock this morning in
- 0:41Speaker 2: the gym. They say every morning.
- 0:43Speaker 3: They might have lied about this morning. I was dead
- 0:46Speaker 3: sleep this morning. But yeah, I'm up. I'm always about
- 0:49Speaker 3: my fitness stuff. I'm super healthy and the healthiest I've
- 0:52Speaker 3: also ever been.
- 0:53Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been watching videos of you all weekend
- 0:55Speaker 1: in New York and like you know a lot of
- 0:57Speaker 1: people have been coming to your signings and you pop
- 0:59Speaker 1: up the crazy make you feel getting that type of love.
- 1:02Speaker 3: It's been cool. I mean, I've been doing this for
- 1:04Speaker 3: so long, and I've been doing signings for so long,
- 1:06Speaker 3: and at some point, like my brain tricked me into
- 1:08Speaker 3: being like, you know, they're probably gonna lessen over the years,
- 1:11Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, we've seen her a bunch,
- 1:12Speaker 3: she dropped a bunch of projects. I'm on project seven
- 1:15Speaker 3: or six or project six? Is it seven? Seven?
- 1:18Speaker 1: Oh?
- 1:18Speaker 3: I was right, see so much music. I forgot that,
- 1:22Speaker 3: you know, I didn't expect it to be getting bigger.
- 1:25Speaker 3: So they're actually the craziest signings I've ever had so far,
- 1:28Speaker 3: because it's growing, and that's you know, that's all you
- 1:30Speaker 3: can pray for.
- 1:31Speaker 1: I will say, you know, listening to your new album
- 1:34Speaker 1: and just seeing you over the last few months several
- 1:37Speaker 1: months talking like there's a confidence in a sense of
- 1:39Speaker 1: self that you have now that you didn't have years ago.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Why is that? I mean, I think
- 1:46Speaker 3: it's been a long mental health journey. I think it's
- 1:48Speaker 3: been a lot of contributing factors, new motherhood, different angles
- 1:54Speaker 3: of like publicly being publicly aligned with certain things are
- 1:58Speaker 3: publicly misaligned. They're just like not stepping into myself. I'm
- 2:01Speaker 3: twenty nine, I'll be thirty next year. Like I'm just
- 2:04Speaker 3: I'm growing up in a real way, so like I
- 2:06Speaker 3: know how to prioritize and take care of myself differently.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Now, So why did you name the album Crash?
- 2:12Speaker 3: So essentially, a crash is the height and the peak
- 2:16Speaker 3: of a moment. It isn't like the anxiety that comes before,
- 2:19Speaker 3: and it isn't like the overthinking that comes after. It's
- 2:22Speaker 3: just this like, excuse me, cluster fuck. It's just this
- 2:25Speaker 3: this thing that happens. And I knew this album wasn't
- 2:29Speaker 3: gonna make sense to most people. I knew that it
- 2:31Speaker 3: would be something that you either loved or that you hated,
- 2:33Speaker 3: and that kind of just is a crash, And that's
- 2:36Speaker 3: kind of been The reception is some people hate this,
- 2:38Speaker 3: some people love this, and people think it's my worst,
- 2:39Speaker 3: and some people think it's my best. And I think
- 2:41Speaker 3: that's really cool.
- 2:42Speaker 1: It's a little bit of everything.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a crash. It's really a cool.
- 2:48Speaker 2: With that what you wanted to do?
- 2:49Speaker 3: You know, I didn't start wanting to do that It
- 2:51Speaker 3: started as myself titled and I went on this mission
- 2:53Speaker 3: to like make finally make the Kailani album because I
- 2:56Speaker 3: haven't done that yet. And we started in like going
- 2:59Speaker 3: to all these different cities and we got all these
- 3:01Speaker 3: airbnbs in different places, and it just kind of grew
- 3:04Speaker 3: into this thing that resembled I feel like me as
- 3:07Speaker 3: a person. I feel like I've always been kind of
- 3:09Speaker 3: this thing that doesn't make sense to everyone. They can't
- 3:12Speaker 3: figure out, like who I am, what I am, what
- 3:14Speaker 3: my story is, how it's been, all of these things
- 3:16Speaker 3: like can't figure me out and whatever kind of way
- 3:19Speaker 3: how I look versus how what kind of music I make,
- 3:21Speaker 3: how I sound? And once it started taking its own life,
- 3:24Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, it's just me as an album.
- 3:26Speaker 2: So what is the self titled Kilania album supposed to
- 3:30Speaker 2: be like? Because you said it was supposed to be
- 3:31Speaker 2: a Kilani album, what was that supposed to.
- 3:33Speaker 3: Well, that album, to me, is more rooted in the
- 3:38Speaker 3: core things that shaped why I sing. I feel like
- 3:41Speaker 3: the Kilani album will be much more referencing like my
- 3:44Speaker 3: actual core musical references. It'll probably be a lot more
- 3:47Speaker 3: R and B. But this album really reflected all the
- 3:49Speaker 3: things that I listened to, like that I grew up
- 3:53Speaker 3: listening to but didn't necessarily shape my identity as an artist,
- 3:56Speaker 3: but reflect like you know, worldly where I'm at.
- 4:00Speaker 4: Basically we're still getting Kaylaning album.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Absolutely, that'll probably be my next album. Probably.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Lose My Wife as such a toxic record. It
- 4:07Speaker 1: is so toxic Klin, like, why would you make those
- 4:11Speaker 1: choices and decisions knowing that it could cost you your wife?
- 4:14Speaker 4: Oh?
- 4:14Speaker 3: You know, it's not a true story. I just wanted
- 4:16Speaker 3: to do so in my head, Crash is the story
- 4:23Speaker 3: of this anti hero version of myself that goes to
- 4:25Speaker 3: Vegas and has this crazy run in Vegas and ends
- 4:29Speaker 3: with that lament of like damn. I've like, oh this
- 4:32Speaker 3: is crashed instantly, and it's almost like the come down
- 4:35Speaker 3: song of like oh, these are the decisions that I've
- 4:37Speaker 3: made and like this is what happens. So it's more
- 4:39Speaker 3: of like a sonic story and an ending to the
- 4:41Speaker 3: story than a true story that I needed to smack
- 4:45Speaker 3: on there. It kind of feels like the Hungover song
- 4:47Speaker 3: kind of feels like the next day you're like, oh shit,
- 4:50Speaker 3: this is your shadow side exactly.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were in the studio writing these songs.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You were like, I'm gonna let my shadow side.
- 4:57Speaker 3: I was like, you know, there is there's been so
- 4:59Speaker 3: many toxic Kilani's songs. There really has. There really has,
- 5:03Speaker 3: and I feel like it's they are moments that people
- 5:06Speaker 3: don't people maybe want to say in their head and
- 5:08Speaker 3: been like I've had that perspective, or I've gone through that,
- 5:10Speaker 3: or I've wanted to say that, and like I would
- 5:12Speaker 3: never say it out loud and to me. After I
- 5:14Speaker 3: wrote that verse, I was like, this is kind of
- 5:16Speaker 3: like stingy and it is kind of harsh. But some
- 5:20Speaker 3: people feel like that.
- 5:22Speaker 1: But when I hear songs like after Hours or like
- 5:24Speaker 1: Better than Not or Tears, it does feel like you're
- 5:27Speaker 1: longing for a stable relationship, does it a little bit?
- 5:33Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I think everybody wants love. Everybody wants
- 5:36Speaker 3: stable love, and we all just have different journeys to it.
- 5:38Speaker 3: You know.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Yeah, how has motherhood been?
- 5:40Speaker 3: Oh it's the best journey.
- 5:42Speaker 4: It's the best.
- 5:42Speaker 3: She's five. I can't believe it. Yeah, and that's all.
- 5:50Speaker 3: I got a third thing. I'm literally like, I'll make
- 5:53Speaker 3: the day seem so fun. I'm like, we're going to
- 5:55Speaker 3: the aquarium and we're going here, We're going here, and
- 5:58Speaker 3: then she's like, no, I just want to stay in
- 6:00Speaker 3: the house and play. I'm like, jeez, what are we
- 6:03Speaker 3: gonna do. The other dad took her to the park
- 6:04Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm just letting you guys know
- 6:07Speaker 3: I'm not playing with any of those kids. And I
- 6:08Speaker 3: was like, I respect it, but maybe we should try.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Died and she made some friends. And she's in school,
- 6:14Speaker 3: so like she is friends, she.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Still got musical interest. I heard you say one time
- 6:18Speaker 1: she had some.
- 6:19Speaker 3: She's on the album she's on Deep. She actually sounds
- 6:22Speaker 3: so good that you can't really tell that it's her,
- 6:24Speaker 3: except for her tone is obviously sounds a lot younger
- 6:27Speaker 3: than mine. But she's singing her asshole.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Do you want her in the industry.
- 6:31Speaker 3: I want her to do whatever she wants to do.
- 6:33Speaker 3: If that means industry, sure, If that means she wants
- 6:35Speaker 3: my help, sure, If that means she doesn't want my help, sure.
- 6:36Speaker 3: If that means she wants to be a brain surgeon
- 6:38Speaker 3: or a rocket scientist, let's do that. It's her world.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I'm just here. Yeah.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Is the industry good for kids? I mean, you're somebody
- 6:44Speaker 1: who came in the industry young.
- 6:47Speaker 3: I think that compared like, there's two different There's there's
- 6:52Speaker 3: pros and cons on both sides. One, I didn't have
- 6:55Speaker 3: access to the proper like mental wellness type of regiment
- 7:01Speaker 3: or care to have grown up in it the way
- 7:03Speaker 3: that I did. And we're seeing the effects of people
- 7:05Speaker 3: who you know, adults now and all these stories are
- 7:07Speaker 3: coming out about them being like child stars are coming
- 7:10Speaker 3: out young. And on the flip side, I feel like
- 7:13Speaker 3: people now have access to that. But there's it's also
- 7:16Speaker 3: a different demon fame now is completely different. It's why
- 7:19Speaker 3: I don't really post my daughter. I don't there's too
- 7:21Speaker 3: many creeps I don't ever hear to ever look back
- 7:24Speaker 3: and be like, I actually didn't consent to any of this.
- 7:26Speaker 3: I didn't give any permission. We already get embarrassed when
- 7:28Speaker 3: our parents play home videos for our friends when they
- 7:31Speaker 3: come over, Like if I'm just subjecting my child to
- 7:34Speaker 3: her home video, her freaking growing up home videos being
- 7:37Speaker 3: widely known all over the internet, and she grows up
- 7:39Speaker 3: one day and it's like, I didn't get to tell
- 7:41Speaker 3: you if I wanted that or not. You know, that's
- 7:42Speaker 3: not me as a parent.
- 7:43Speaker 4: So yeah, any more babies.
- 7:45Speaker 3: I would love to have more babies. Whatever God wants
- 7:47Speaker 3: to bless me with I receive. Yeah.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Can we talk about the record? What I want?
- 7:51Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 7:52Speaker 1: I want a bitch that look better than me, pussy get.
- 7:57Speaker 3: You reading it so serious?
- 7:59Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 8:01Speaker 3: What I want?
- 8:07Speaker 1: Excited? On that record, it seems like you're torn between
- 8:10Speaker 1: wanting to be spoiled but also feeling comfortable being the
- 8:12Speaker 1: one who spoils.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely like I fluctuate. Absolutely. I think I'm
- 8:18Speaker 3: more of a giver than a receiver of like spoiling.
- 8:21Speaker 3: I think that's just my nature. But it's just a
- 8:25Speaker 3: classic song about naming all the things that I want.
- 8:27Speaker 3: I don't think any of them are even cohesive. I
- 8:29Speaker 3: think they're just like, here's a list of all the
- 8:31Speaker 3: all my dream things that I want.
- 8:32Speaker 1: If you having a while weekend in Vegas, why would
- 8:34Speaker 1: you lie to a woman like that? Why would you
- 8:36Speaker 1: make her.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Feel isn't that what you do in Vegas? Doesn't Vegas
- 8:42Speaker 3: make you me?
- 8:42Speaker 1: No?
- 8:42Speaker 3: Not like that? But I'm saying doesn't. It's Vegas, not
- 8:45Speaker 3: like some adult Disneyland, like all your vices and you
- 8:49Speaker 3: don't talk about it. Actually, actually, I have a tiny
- 8:53Speaker 3: residency in Vegas. Thank you, I have a show. Thank you.
- 8:56Speaker 3: I have a show at the end of next month
- 8:58Speaker 3: and in August. That's what I do in Vegas.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Yeah, because even on the song Vegas, maybe I'm tripp
- 9:02Speaker 1: but it didn't sound like you was actually in Vegas.
- 9:04Speaker 1: You just said what we do.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Is like Vegas exactly. The only I made a couple
- 9:09Speaker 3: of songs. Actually I made part of what I Want
- 9:11Speaker 3: in Vegas. I made part of SUSI on Vegas. I
- 9:14Speaker 3: mean actually I made most of SUSI on Vegas and
- 9:16Speaker 3: a part of Groove Theory in Vegas. But the song
- 9:19Speaker 3: Vegas I made in Los Angeles, Okay, and then.
- 9:22Speaker 5: On my goal to Vegas the fall in love like
- 9:24Speaker 5: they go to create, have fun, you know, to the.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Person who said, I'm lying going on, we don't know.
- 9:35Speaker 1: The record Sushi a sushi, doesn't that mean isn't.
- 9:37Speaker 5: That's fantasy sushia sushi.
- 9:47Speaker 1: And that's dirty yeah, dirty girl.
- 9:49Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go biling is that with the record? Yeah?
- 9:54Speaker 3: Basically I mean Young Miko's versus crazy if it's translated.
- 9:58Speaker 3: And Jill Scott is Auntie Max extreme. She is the
- 10:04Speaker 3: freak lord. Honestly, the original freak, so I had to
- 10:08Speaker 3: tap her in. Yeah, yeah, she that was an honor.
- 10:10Speaker 4: I noticed that you don't have a lot of features. Yeah,
- 10:13Speaker 4: it was that intentional.
- 10:14Speaker 3: No, I tried to get more features. There was a
- 10:16Speaker 3: couple of things that were going on, different time things
- 10:19Speaker 3: and not necessarily being aligned at the time, different people
- 10:22Speaker 3: not aligning with me, and just things not making sense.
- 10:26Speaker 3: But the ones that did stick around for me and
- 10:28Speaker 3: really you know, held me down. I'm super appreciative and
- 10:30Speaker 3: they killed it. Yeah.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Now after I was were you surprised of how fast
- 10:33Speaker 2: I took off, especially on social media?
- 10:35Speaker 4: Crazy?
- 10:36Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a huge dance.
- 10:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 10:39Speaker 3: I honestly have to give a lot of credit to
- 10:41Speaker 3: Darius Hickman, who's an incredible dancer, and he was in
- 10:43Speaker 3: the After Hours video and he left rehearsal for one
- 10:46Speaker 3: of the for the After Hours video, I went home
- 10:49Speaker 3: and just like made this little dance on TikTok and
- 10:51Speaker 3: it just like it took it on one. I think
- 10:53Speaker 3: it's such a testament to how powerful like dance is
- 10:56Speaker 3: and how like dancers are like DJ's like they could
- 10:58Speaker 3: really break songs like it's I give him all the
- 11:01Speaker 3: credit for that because it's crazy.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Did you know who loom d was beforehand?
- 11:04Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 11:05Speaker 1: Of course you disrespect her like that, asking.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Like, of course the one song, so you know, maybe people, does.
- 11:14Speaker 4: She have one?
- 11:15Speaker 3: Course? I think she had one.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Now. You also mentioned that this album isn't rooted in
- 11:20Speaker 1: your personal experiences are relationships like your previous albums? Are
- 11:24Speaker 1: you saying that just so you don't get in trouble
- 11:26Speaker 1: and people be like, damn, Caline's so toxic?
- 11:28Speaker 3: No, I think I think anytime a running I want
- 11:32Speaker 3: you to so bad, so bad. You know what's so
- 11:37Speaker 3: funny is I think people would be surprised if they
- 11:39Speaker 3: sat down with me to to actually ask and inquire
- 11:42Speaker 3: about my experiences, because they might look one way, but
- 11:44Speaker 3: it's so many different scenarios that lead to while my
- 11:47Speaker 3: love life looks the way it does, and so many
- 11:50Speaker 3: that you would be surprised. Who what's happened with this?
- 11:52Speaker 3: And what's happened with this? And it's just it's my
- 11:55Speaker 3: business and it's my world, and I'm pretty much in
- 11:57Speaker 3: good standing with anybody ever, So like running through these
- 12:00Speaker 3: chicks is extreme? You do really want me to be
- 12:03Speaker 3: a pimp? You know? Maybe maybe I'll just start embodying it,
- 12:06Speaker 3: maybe maybe just accept it.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Does that bother you people in your in your in
- 12:13Speaker 2: your regular business, not just your music business all the time.
- 12:16Speaker 3: No, I think it came. It comes with the territory.
- 12:18Speaker 3: I think I got. I hated it so bad, But
- 12:22Speaker 3: I also I have been again, your mental health journey
- 12:26Speaker 3: and your journey in being a public facing person, those
- 12:30Speaker 3: have to be in lockstep like those if you are
- 12:32Speaker 3: ever having poor mental health. There's so many times I
- 12:35Speaker 3: could say I've been at a table with y'all and
- 12:38Speaker 3: been in the worst states of my life and I
- 12:39Speaker 3: was like, Okay, that interview is going to be whatever.
- 12:41Speaker 3: And times I've been like, I'm actually not doing interviews
- 12:43Speaker 3: this year because all of this shit. And absolutely, but
- 12:48Speaker 3: I've also was not in a positive space to even
- 12:52Speaker 3: be able to walk in a room and like hold that. Granted,
- 12:55Speaker 3: I think the interview at the time that caused things
- 12:58Speaker 3: like that wasn't my favorite experience with someone. No, but
- 13:01Speaker 3: I also, at multiple times in my career just have
- 13:04Speaker 3: not been just aligned with where I needed to be
- 13:07Speaker 3: to be able to show up in that way. So
- 13:09Speaker 3: now I can hold that you could probably say anything
- 13:11Speaker 3: to me and I'd be like all right, cool.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I've record labels gotten to the point where they actually
- 13:15Speaker 1: respect artists mental health, meaning like if you wake up
- 13:17Speaker 1: a morning and you say, look, I'm not doing no
- 13:19Speaker 1: interview today, I'm not doing no interviews for the next
- 13:21Speaker 1: six months, but they like, no, you have to, like,
- 13:23Speaker 1: they'll push you to do it anyway.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Well, I've been signed to the same label since I
- 13:25Speaker 3: was nineteen years old and I'm twenty nine, and they
- 13:29Speaker 3: have seen me through everything, so I think they're at
- 13:33Speaker 3: the point with me where they're like, we get it,
- 13:35Speaker 3: and we also know what you are going to show
- 13:37Speaker 3: up and show out for, and that's you know, your fans.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Like I never I never play about my fans. I
- 13:42Speaker 3: never played for showing, you know, showing up for them.
- 13:45Speaker 3: And we've always been super transparent, developed a really good
- 13:47Speaker 3: relationship with people in media to where like I've been
- 13:50Speaker 3: able to call people personally and been like, it's not you,
- 13:53Speaker 3: I promise, like I'm not doing well, or I've been
- 13:55Speaker 3: on a run and going and going and going for
- 13:57Speaker 3: six days and I just need to come in a
- 13:59Speaker 3: little later, I need to reschedule this, and people have
- 14:01Speaker 3: been super gracious with me.
- 14:02Speaker 1: So I'm a huge mental health advocate. So what got
- 14:05Speaker 1: you to that place where you are now? You know?
- 14:08Speaker 1: And I mean, and I know it's a journey. I
- 14:10Speaker 1: know it's up, so I know it's down. But what
- 14:11Speaker 1: got you to this?
- 14:13Speaker 3: Yeah? Honestly, I'm going to use this moment to be
- 14:16Speaker 3: really transparent and to really advocate for people, you know,
- 14:19Speaker 3: getting psychiatric care. And I got a psychiatrist and I
- 14:22Speaker 3: got a proper diagnosis after what felt like years of
- 14:25Speaker 3: getting soft diagnosis and misdiagnosis, and I'm able to get
- 14:29Speaker 3: medicated help and it keeps my mood stable and I'm
- 14:32Speaker 3: here and it keeps me like I would absolutely recommend
- 14:35Speaker 3: it to anybody that feels like they need it, because
- 14:37Speaker 3: it's not something that anybody needs to shame or like
- 14:40Speaker 3: be nervous about. And it's probably the best thing I've
- 14:42Speaker 3: ever done for myself for sure.
- 14:43Speaker 2: What got you there? Because most people, like you said,
- 14:45Speaker 2: they feel like they can't talk about it, they can't
- 14:47Speaker 2: discuss it, they can't get to help because they don't
- 14:49Speaker 2: want to be shamed. Especially in celebrity. You feel like
- 14:51Speaker 2: somebody will see me do this that and the other.
- 14:52Speaker 2: What got you to the point was like, f this,
- 14:54Speaker 2: I need to get help.
- 14:55Speaker 3: You know, I was medicated when I was a kid,
- 14:57Speaker 3: and I remember not having the most proper experience with it,
- 15:03Speaker 3: just because I was really young, and like you're in
- 15:05Speaker 3: school and like every kid has ADHD and like it's hyperactive,
- 15:09Speaker 3: and I had to be in like the third grade
- 15:16Speaker 3: on riddling and it really messed with my personality. And
- 15:19Speaker 3: my mom was like, yeah, no, like you can't be
- 15:21Speaker 3: a zombie. Like I'll take hyperactive, turn the you know
- 15:24Speaker 3: over like whatever this zombie, you know. And then on
- 15:30Speaker 3: top of that, still I just remained with the psychiatrist.
- 15:32Speaker 3: And then you know, I went into a teenagehood and
- 15:34Speaker 3: I didn't have that anymore. And then I became an
- 15:35Speaker 3: adult and just like my experiences in the music industry
- 15:40Speaker 3: and the amount of like honestly PTSD that that causes,
- 15:45Speaker 3: paired with you know, all your childhood trauma and like
- 15:48Speaker 3: all these things, you kind of get to a point
- 15:50Speaker 3: where you're like, all right, I'm not an expert. Like
- 15:52Speaker 3: I can't keep being the one to dictate this or
- 15:55Speaker 3: to supplement or like to to try to fix it,
- 15:58Speaker 3: ice to smoke a lot of weed. Can't do it,
- 16:00Speaker 3: won't do it. I haven't been a smoker in five years.
- 16:06Speaker 3: People bring me weat all the time and I'm.
- 16:07Speaker 1: Like, dang, that's about Indigo kind of calms your anxiety.
- 16:11Speaker 1: So Teva makes you have panic.
- 16:13Speaker 3: You know. It was because I got pregnant and I
- 16:16Speaker 3: couldn't and then I got I went to a throat
- 16:18Speaker 3: doctor and he was like, oh, you don't want to
- 16:19Speaker 3: sing for the rest of your life the way your
- 16:20Speaker 3: shit looks cause I was smoking backwards. I was smoking
- 16:23Speaker 3: blunts like I was what you can find pictures of
- 16:25Speaker 3: me with like backwoods like packs spread out like like
- 16:28Speaker 3: like a money spread psychotic and just nasty, just nasty.
- 16:35Speaker 3: And it just I couldn't do it anymore. And I'm
- 16:38Speaker 3: just I got to a point where I was like, Okay,
- 16:39Speaker 3: I'm doing all the things that I can possibly do.
- 16:42Speaker 3: I'm going to the gym, I'm developing good hobbies. I'm
- 16:46Speaker 3: not going out and I'm not doing this and I'm
- 16:48Speaker 3: still struggling. It's to the point where I need to call,
- 16:50Speaker 3: you know, I need to ask for help.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Did it affect your art when you're on whatever medication?
- 16:56Speaker 3: No, No it doesn't. It honestly is the first time,
- 17:00Speaker 3: maybe ever in my life that I feel like I
- 17:03Speaker 3: have been. I have I'm clear.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Yes, oh congratulates like I thought you when we first started.
- 17:08Speaker 1: You can really see it's a different level of confidence,
- 17:11Speaker 1: it's a different level sense of security.
- 17:12Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, absolutely, thank you, I appreciate it.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Now we're doing this album. You know, usually people see
- 17:17Speaker 2: Kalani as an R and B artist, but this album
- 17:20Speaker 2: is popped. Its country is house music, is reggae music.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Were you nervous at all and be like my fan fans,
- 17:26Speaker 2: my core won't get it.
- 17:27Speaker 3: I actually felt the opposite. I felt like my core fans,
- 17:30Speaker 3: my actual core fans, would get it because there's been
- 17:33Speaker 3: hints of all these things. When my mixhape was nominated
- 17:37Speaker 3: for a Grammy, it wasn't nominated for R and B.
- 17:38Speaker 3: It was nominated for like Contemporary, you know, R and B.
- 17:42Speaker 3: So there's been hints of things my whole life, and
- 17:45Speaker 3: I felt like they would really understand. I felt like
- 17:49Speaker 3: everybody else who really loved one really R and B
- 17:52Speaker 3: project of mine, or like R and B SoundCloud drops
- 17:55Speaker 3: or features would be like, what is this and so
- 17:58Speaker 3: far for the most part, that's kind of what I've seen.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Plus this little subgroup of people who are going like, Wow,
- 18:04Speaker 3: I didn't even know she had this in her. This
- 18:06Speaker 3: is what's gonna make me fuck with her. So it's honestly,
- 18:08Speaker 3: it's been cool. I'm kind of really liking the polarity
- 18:11Speaker 3: of the response at this point. If I make the
- 18:12Speaker 3: same album again, I'm not an artist If I make
- 18:15Speaker 3: the same project after seven projects. This is my chance
- 18:18Speaker 3: to pivot, and I took it, and I'm just I'm
- 18:20Speaker 3: stoked to be here. Is exactly exactly. Some people are like,
- 18:27Speaker 3: this is the best thing I've ever heard you do,
- 18:29Speaker 3: and some people are like this is chicken scratch and
- 18:32Speaker 3: it sounds like noise and I hate it, Like, oh,
- 18:35Speaker 3: I don't listen to anyone. I made the album I
- 18:37Speaker 3: wanted to make, and I'm happy with it.
- 18:39Speaker 4: It's a bunch of different genres and it's so different.
- 18:41Speaker 3: It was so fun to make. I had it was
- 18:43Speaker 3: the funnest process. It was so many people involved that
- 18:46Speaker 3: were all feel the exact same way about it. It
- 18:48Speaker 3: felt like our album, not just mine. We got to
- 18:50Speaker 3: celebrate it, like I'm happy.
- 18:52Speaker 1: I keep hearing you talk about your fitness journey. Yeah,
- 18:55Speaker 1: but then they said recently you were body shamed on.
- 18:59Speaker 3: You know it was an interesting body shame because what
- 19:01Speaker 3: it was was the accusations that I got ab etching.
- 19:05Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's really interesting. The thing is I
- 19:12Speaker 3: have diascesis right that and a hernia from being pregnant,
- 19:16Speaker 3: so my muscles are split down the middle, so I
- 19:19Speaker 3: have I have this space right here and this I
- 19:21Speaker 3: have like a lump because it's my intestine, it's a
- 19:23Speaker 3: hernia and it kind of looks like an extra ab
- 19:26Speaker 3: randomly above my belly button. Everybody was like, that's the proof,
- 19:30Speaker 3: like and then they were like, yes, proof because she's
- 19:32Speaker 3: not super muscly anywhere else but just her core and
- 19:35Speaker 3: won if you go back like genetically I have my
- 19:37Speaker 3: dad is super buff, like I'm damn here bill like
- 19:39Speaker 3: my father, and then I've always kind of had right
- 19:45Speaker 3: you can really see it, and I and I've always
- 19:48Speaker 3: had abs. And then upon like just really training my
- 19:50Speaker 3: core to like make up for the fact that my
- 19:53Speaker 3: muscles aren't connected and I have to get my core
- 19:55Speaker 3: together to be able to do any things. That's the
- 19:57Speaker 3: center of everything. I have to go a little hard
- 19:59Speaker 3: on that. And I honestly thought it was hilarious. And
- 20:03Speaker 3: then people just being like, is that a man, and
- 20:06Speaker 3: I was like, do you want me to be?
- 20:07Speaker 2: Jesus?
- 20:08Speaker 3: Would you like me to be?
- 20:09Speaker 5: But what I love is like you didn't get mad
- 20:11Speaker 5: and like go get online and start going crazy.
- 20:14Speaker 3: Ba it doesn't do anything. I used to do that
- 20:17Speaker 3: a lot, and then you just realize, like there's crazy
- 20:20Speaker 3: shit every day, like people talk about some new shit
- 20:22Speaker 3: the next day. I remember when the internet used to
- 20:24Speaker 3: destroy me, like it you what I remember the other day,
- 20:29Speaker 3: maybe last week, somebody might have tweeted like, oh, like,
- 20:33Speaker 3: y'all don't call Kailine dirty and she has tattoos and
- 20:35Speaker 3: someone said, oh, you must be new here, and everybody
- 20:38Speaker 3: was like yeah, because twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, that
- 20:43Speaker 3: was it. Everybody was calling me ugly, dirty, all everything.
- 20:48Speaker 3: And I used to be what I was fucked up
- 20:50Speaker 3: about it like consistently, and then I just got to
- 20:53Speaker 3: a point where I was like, well, life kind of
- 20:55Speaker 3: goes on and like I know myself and like there
- 20:58Speaker 3: are people that know me and love me deeply care
- 21:00Speaker 3: about me, and like you wash right, Hello, Yes, if
- 21:04Speaker 3: you guys would like to come to my house for
- 21:05Speaker 3: a week and don't check in my shower twice a
- 21:08Speaker 3: day and the levels of aftercare, Like that's on you, guys,
- 21:12Speaker 3: but you know, you know you can't prove those things
- 21:13Speaker 3: to people. People who already want to be like that
- 21:15Speaker 3: are going to be like that.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Regard anyway, Are you still on social media?
- 21:18Speaker 1: You got off because of that?
- 21:19Speaker 3: No, I had got off for a second. I actually
- 21:21Speaker 3: didn't have Twitter for two years. I just got back
- 21:23Speaker 3: on because it's just what I get back on good
- 21:27Speaker 3: mental Oh it's a terrible place. It's a terrible place.
- 21:29Speaker 3: But the people that I need to speak to, my fans.
- 21:34Speaker 3: I once I learned how to really put blinders on,
- 21:36Speaker 3: and not theoretical blinders, but like actual blinders, to be
- 21:40Speaker 3: consistently like this is what matters, and these are the
- 21:44Speaker 3: people that love me. It's been the best thing in
- 21:46Speaker 3: the world. Sometimes I have my moments. Someone yesterday says
- 21:49Speaker 3: some shit to me, like I think Calin is confused
- 21:51Speaker 3: about her sexuality, and I was like, I've been exclusively
- 21:53Speaker 3: dating women for three years and like the music's really gay,
- 21:56Speaker 3: but sure, And then somebody, how am I confused? I
- 22:02Speaker 3: think I'm the least confused I've ever been. But I
- 22:06Speaker 3: left the tweet up for ten seconds and deleted it.
- 22:08Speaker 3: You have you know, you have your moments.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yeah, how did your record label and I guess just
- 22:13Speaker 1: the industry period react to your advocacy for Palestine.
- 22:17Speaker 3: You know, I think we're in a kind of a
- 22:22Speaker 3: loop for so long of like what's safe to speak
- 22:25Speaker 3: about and what's not safe to speak about, especially with
- 22:27Speaker 3: the powers that be being so powerful and that running
- 22:30Speaker 3: so deep. Obviously, my music came out, and obviously I'm
- 22:33Speaker 3: super supportive, so absolutely no problem from my record label.
- 22:37Speaker 3: I have experienced a lot of pushback. I've experienced a
- 22:39Speaker 3: lot of loss. I've experienced a lot of things that
- 22:40Speaker 3: were promised and set up for this rollout and album
- 22:43Speaker 3: to happen, that were supposed to be a lot of
- 22:44Speaker 3: first really yeah, magazines and these things, and those brand
- 22:49Speaker 3: deals and opportunities that were sad to lose by at
- 22:51Speaker 3: the end of the day, like, I don't I don't
- 22:54Speaker 3: regret doing something that I can go to sleep at night.
- 22:58Speaker 3: I can go to sleep knowing that, like what I
- 23:00Speaker 3: learned to be as an artist, I'm aligned with because
- 23:03Speaker 3: I grew up fully understanding, you know, the role of
- 23:06Speaker 3: art in liberation, and that's not to place myself in
- 23:10Speaker 3: alignment with you know, those artists and those revolutionary acts.
- 23:13Speaker 3: But that's to say, like I understood what it meant
- 23:16Speaker 3: to not be silent, even if I never, you know,
- 23:20Speaker 3: put it with the song in the video, even if
- 23:22Speaker 3: just me speaking out, I always knew what it meant
- 23:23Speaker 3: to have a platform and that responsibility in that way,
- 23:26Speaker 3: and like I can go to sleep knowing that, like
- 23:28Speaker 3: I don't, I can look myself in the mirror, you know,
- 23:30Speaker 3: and know that I did, I did the right thing.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Do these magazines and stuff. Tell your people why they
- 23:34Speaker 1: say you always hear advocacy of palist.
- 23:36Speaker 3: Those are really big buildings with a lot of people involved,
- 23:39Speaker 3: so it always makes its way back.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Yeah, now you speak. You also mentioned that your advocacy
- 23:44Speaker 1: for Palestine caused a lot of artists to ignore your collaboration.
- 23:48Speaker 3: So I was talking very fast on a live very
- 23:51Speaker 3: caffeinated early in the morning, and I wasn't able to
- 23:54Speaker 3: like really elaborate on that. There are a lot of
- 23:56Speaker 3: more people involved on artist teams and just the artists.
- 23:59Speaker 3: And it also wasn't every feature. There were certain people
- 24:01Speaker 3: who didn't get it back in time or it wasn't
- 24:03Speaker 3: aligned with like the timing of their album. I didn't
- 24:05Speaker 3: mean every single artist, But there were artists that I
- 24:08Speaker 3: did reach to when someone on the team was like,
- 24:10Speaker 3: we don't fuck with her, or they said this, and
- 24:13Speaker 3: then another thing made its way to me, or like
- 24:16Speaker 3: another like things we know, we know, things travel, we know,
- 24:21Speaker 3: people have conversations, and those people have conversations, and people
- 24:25Speaker 3: were respectful enough to not, you know, text me back
- 24:28Speaker 3: and say, girl, fuck you, I'm Zionists. You know, things
- 24:30Speaker 3: like that. But I wasn't able to really elaborate that
- 24:33Speaker 3: when I and I would never I would never sit
- 24:36Speaker 3: here and name names, because it's not about that. It's
- 24:39Speaker 3: more about how insidious these the industries are and that
- 24:43Speaker 3: we can be so afraid to lose what we've built
- 24:46Speaker 3: because so many of us have come from nothing to
- 24:48Speaker 3: where we have this scarcity mindset of like I have
- 24:51Speaker 3: to protect what I have going on so hard that
- 24:53Speaker 3: I will do anything to stay in that world to
- 24:55Speaker 3: protect it because I have to keep feeding my family,
- 24:57Speaker 3: I have to keep you know, building my legacy. I
- 24:59Speaker 3: have to do that. I don't want to chance that.
- 25:01Speaker 3: And it's sad because that thing that does get dangled
- 25:03Speaker 3: in front of our faces when it comes to really
- 25:05Speaker 3: important political matters that people don't align with It's sad,
- 25:08Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, and I don't I'm not mad at anyone.
- 25:10Speaker 3: I'm not holding anything against anyone. I was definitely on
- 25:13Speaker 3: that live like yeah, and by the way, let me
- 25:14Speaker 3: tell y'all about that. But I definitely have those moments
- 25:17Speaker 3: where I'm like, this shit is fucked up. But typically
- 25:20Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a longer thinker and I have more
- 25:23Speaker 3: to the thought. And it was just unfortunate.
- 25:25Speaker 1: So you understand when artists don't want to speak god
- 25:27Speaker 1: about political or social issue.
- 25:30Speaker 2: How do you feel about it? Right particular background.
- 25:34Speaker 3: I am the type of person that is very nuanced,
- 25:37Speaker 3: like I understand how people got to most things. It's unfortunate.
- 25:44Speaker 3: I feel like it's unfortunate. I am saddened by it
- 25:47Speaker 3: does make me sad because I really do believe in
- 25:50Speaker 3: our power as people with influence. This is why the
- 25:54Speaker 3: presidents involve music artists. What they've got. They've got all
- 25:57Speaker 3: type of music artists campaigning for for the president save God,
- 26:01Speaker 3: they bring it. They bring us out to sing out
- 26:03Speaker 3: all the campaigns, all the events, whenever there's anything going
- 26:06Speaker 3: on that they want us to all get together and
- 26:08Speaker 3: drop a song for it like they keep showing us
- 26:11Speaker 3: how powerful we are. There's people there's a younger generation
- 26:14Speaker 3: who don't know what a policy is, but they would.
- 26:17Speaker 3: They know their rappers' favorite songs, they know their R
- 26:20Speaker 3: and B singer's favorite songs, and they will learn about
- 26:22Speaker 3: anything going on in the world if their favorite person
- 26:26Speaker 3: tells them. And I may have expressed it super like
- 26:30Speaker 3: angrily every single time I've talked about it online, but
- 26:33Speaker 3: that's because I understand that also sometimes shame works as
- 26:35Speaker 3: a teacher. So if I got to come on there
- 26:37Speaker 3: and say fuck all of y'all, because wake your ass up.
- 26:40Speaker 3: If you want to sit and have a longer conversation
- 26:41Speaker 3: with me, we can get to this point. But it
- 26:45Speaker 3: has made me viscerally angry so many times to feel like,
- 26:48Speaker 3: look what we could do. And they also wouldn't be
- 26:50Speaker 3: able to hold us back anymore. If we all bended together,
- 26:53Speaker 3: they can't cancel all of us. They could cancel me,
- 26:56Speaker 3: and they'd be like, Okay, we got somebody out of here.
- 26:58Speaker 3: That's cool. They get canceled a couple people speak up,
- 27:00Speaker 3: but if everybody spoke up, that power imbalance wouldn't exist anymore.
- 27:04Speaker 3: We're just the people United, that's the quote, so we
- 27:07Speaker 3: have to like stand on that.
- 27:09Speaker 1: And you raised over a half a million dollars for
- 27:11Speaker 1: Gaza Sudan and the do you think money is the
- 27:15Speaker 1: only way people can help?
- 27:17Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I think in every single issue, the idea
- 27:21Speaker 3: is that you're supposed to listen to the requests of
- 27:24Speaker 3: the people at the core of the issue. You're supposed
- 27:26Speaker 3: to abide by the requests of the most suppressed. And
- 27:28Speaker 3: they have asked us to literally speak like that's the
- 27:32Speaker 3: thing about this whole, Like social media doesn't do anything.
- 27:35Speaker 3: Speaking doesn't do anything. Awareness doesn't do anything. But those
- 27:38Speaker 3: there are people in Congo who are just saying make
- 27:41Speaker 3: our stories heard. There are people in Sudan who go
- 27:44Speaker 3: just speak about us. They're not talking about us on
- 27:47Speaker 3: the news, they're not talking about us in these magazines,
- 27:49Speaker 3: they're not talking about us anywhere. But you guys are
- 27:53Speaker 3: Gaza opened the door for people to even be aware
- 27:56Speaker 3: of Congo and Sudan on a global scale, because those
- 27:58Speaker 3: issues have have preceded this genocide. Those genocides have been
- 28:02Speaker 3: have been happening, those famines that extremely like displacement, those
- 28:07Speaker 3: have already been existing, and Gaza has opened up the
- 28:10Speaker 3: world to to Haiti, to Yemen, to all of these
- 28:13Speaker 3: places that all this is going on. So the least
- 28:16Speaker 3: we can do is share things here and there. And
- 28:19Speaker 3: you don't have to have money, but if you do,
- 28:20Speaker 3: you should put it where your mouth is. For sure.
- 28:23Speaker 2: I was gonna ask what Kamala Harris, being from from
- 28:25Speaker 2: your side of town, did y'all ever have a conversation
- 28:28Speaker 2: did you ever reach out to herb for everything that's
- 28:29Speaker 2: going on at all?
- 28:30Speaker 3: I'm not really a big on presidents or they're they're folks.
- 28:34Speaker 3: Not a governmental girl, Really.
- 28:38Speaker 1: They're not really. I mean there's powering government, but the
- 28:40Speaker 1: real powers with.
- 28:40Speaker 3: The people people.
- 28:41Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, you are a West Coast girl, and girl,
- 28:46Speaker 5: what do you think about was gone? I who was
- 28:53Speaker 5: going for what?
- 28:56Speaker 3: I haven't publicly rooted for anyone? But have you not
- 28:58Speaker 3: seen me at the club?
- 29:01Speaker 1: Oh?
- 29:01Speaker 3: You could hear me through the soundproof star. I very
- 29:09Speaker 3: much respect both artists. Drake actually named my album it
- 29:13Speaker 3: was good until it was and he's shown me a
- 29:14Speaker 3: lot of love over time, like publicly privately, so has
- 29:17Speaker 3: Kendrick like he did. You were having a conversation and
- 29:20Speaker 3: I told him what I wanted to name it. And
- 29:21Speaker 3: then he was like, no, what's going on in life?
- 29:23Speaker 3: And I told him and he was like, and I
- 29:24Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I was. Honestly it was good until
- 29:26Speaker 3: it wasn't. He was like, if you don't use it
- 29:27Speaker 3: as your album title, I am, And I was like, okay, right,
- 29:31Speaker 3: you're right. It is a very Drake album title. I
- 29:35Speaker 3: think it it came down to if I'm on some
- 29:38Speaker 3: West Coast shit, I'm from the West, Like, I know,
- 29:40Speaker 3: I know how important this unity is of all of us,
- 29:43Speaker 3: and I know how imperative this representation of us is.
- 29:46Speaker 3: Like I love Kendrick. That's the only artist I've ever
- 29:49Speaker 3: stood in the line and like waiting to get something
- 29:51Speaker 3: signed for when I was in high school, Like it's
- 29:53Speaker 3: soundtrack to my life. So I have no like personal
- 29:58Speaker 3: entrances in anything. I'm just as a fan of the music.
- 30:02Speaker 3: We just musically just music. I mean, we have to
- 30:09Speaker 3: respect what we what we saw, we saw bay people.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Ever since though, oh my god, hilarious.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Listen when you sing that like us, because it's so catchy.
- 30:18Speaker 3: I have had moments where I was like in the
- 30:20Speaker 3: club and I've seen that it's a club thing, and
- 30:22Speaker 3: I was like, damn, this is crazy. But I also
- 30:25Speaker 3: remember every single big disc track in history being able
- 30:28Speaker 3: to be played for massive groups of people gathering and
- 30:31Speaker 3: it being a thing that everybody is like I was
- 30:34Speaker 3: too young for like the Ether era, but like everybody
- 30:38Speaker 3: talks about it and they're like this was.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Crazy, Like this is in the club every night though
- 30:42Speaker 1: wasn't in the club.
- 30:43Speaker 3: I mean Back to Back was in the club.
- 30:46Speaker 1: The club.
- 30:46Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's eras it's moments. Honestly, I'm not in
- 30:49Speaker 3: hip hop, so I can't speak to the sport of it,
- 30:52Speaker 3: but like it's a sport. I guess you have a.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Text drink like, yo, man, you did your think let
- 30:56Speaker 1: me be ashamed about it? Was all good. No.
- 30:58Speaker 3: I feel like he has real people around him will
- 31:00Speaker 3: hold them down, and I feel like it's taken that
- 31:02Speaker 3: moment to be like, hey, by the way, let me
- 31:07Speaker 3: make sure you know I support you. Yeah, he's got
- 31:10Speaker 3: his folks.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Man.
- 31:12Speaker 4: You mentioned a tour.
- 31:14Speaker 3: Absolutely, I made this album to tours specifically, Like there
- 31:20Speaker 3: was so many sounds where I was like, this is
- 31:22Speaker 3: gonna be so fun to saying, it's gonna be so
- 31:23Speaker 3: fun to dance to, It's gonna be so fun to
- 31:25Speaker 3: play with a band, so absolutely well. I think for me,
- 31:29Speaker 3: touring is the epicenter of my like my career, to
- 31:33Speaker 3: the point where sometimes you don't even see you can't
- 31:36Speaker 3: even really tell what's going on with the music streaming
- 31:38Speaker 3: and charting wise, people are like what And then you
- 31:39Speaker 3: come to the tour and it's these huge venues and
- 31:42Speaker 3: people are like, I actually had no idea because when
- 31:44Speaker 3: I look at how it's doing over there, and it's
- 31:47Speaker 3: just a classic example for me of like impact versus
- 31:50Speaker 3: you know, numbers, and my shows are huge. My shows
- 31:54Speaker 3: are a blast. Everybody has a great time, everybody feels safe,
- 31:57Speaker 3: everybody has fun. Like that. That is what's important to me.
- 32:00Speaker 3: So we're gonna do it again, for sure.
- 32:02Speaker 5: That's what's up, because by then I would have had
- 32:04Speaker 5: my baby and I can get high.
- 32:08Speaker 3: You miss it.
- 32:09Speaker 4: Very much, Okay, Oh yeah, I'm not like you. I'm
- 32:12Speaker 4: going to smoke, okay, but not backwards though.
- 32:16Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm starting
- 32:19Speaker 3: to get off the backwoods movement with all the friends
- 32:22Speaker 3: take care of yourself like medicines. I like CBD a lot.
- 32:26Speaker 3: I like mushrooms and a lot of mushrooms. Making this album.
- 32:29Speaker 3: You might could tell there's some trips on here.
- 32:31Speaker 5: Yeah, that one that you played me, oh my God?
- 32:34Speaker 5: Which one was when oh my God? It sounds like a.
- 32:38Speaker 4: Oh my God, like if very next to you. I
- 32:42Speaker 4: don't know, but he had.
- 32:42Speaker 5: Played it, and I was like, damn, if I sure,
- 32:44Speaker 5: I probably be like after I was going crazy.
- 32:46Speaker 4: No, not, I was.
- 32:48Speaker 5: I can dance to that one, but this one just
- 32:49Speaker 5: seemed like I have no idea, I forgot, but he
- 32:53Speaker 5: was playing it, playing the whole album earlier, but it
- 32:56Speaker 5: was one particular song.
- 32:57Speaker 4: I was like, oh yeah, I'm can't wait to get
- 32:59Speaker 4: out of that.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I was probably all mushrooms when I made it for you.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Are you are you aware of like the journey in
- 33:06Speaker 1: life that you're going through, and if so, what era
- 33:08Speaker 1: would you define?
- 33:09Speaker 3: This era? So comparatively to where I was at with
- 33:16Speaker 3: my last album, I feel like my last album, I
- 33:19Speaker 3: had reached the ending of what was like toxic positivity
- 33:26Speaker 3: and like toxic spirituality, like almost psychossy, being like really
- 33:32Speaker 3: in my like and not accepting that. Also what comes
- 33:36Speaker 3: with that is like they're really getting into your shadow
- 33:39Speaker 3: and really getting into also like every single part of
- 33:42Speaker 3: myself and and now I'm in this. I feel like
- 33:44Speaker 3: this era is just really standing in it. I feel
- 33:46Speaker 3: like I'm down to be whatever everybody thinks I am.
- 33:49Speaker 3: For the first time in my life. I'm not over
- 33:51Speaker 3: here trying to prove anything different. I'm not over here
- 33:53Speaker 3: like I don't care to clear up anything. I don't
- 33:55Speaker 3: care to address anything. I have nothing to say about
- 33:59Speaker 3: any of that. If you think I suck, let's do it.
- 34:01Speaker 3: If you think I'm a terrible person, let's do it. If
- 34:03Speaker 3: you think I'm the best person in the world. Thank you.
- 34:05Speaker 3: I appreciate you, and I think that that truly speaks
- 34:08Speaker 3: to what you were saying about how different I feel
- 34:10Speaker 3: is that I'm settled in a way where I'm so
- 34:13Speaker 3: at peace with who I know I am and my
- 34:15Speaker 3: court foundation that it's not going to be rocked by
- 34:17Speaker 3: anything else going on. Great, thank you.
- 34:23Speaker 2: The album Crash is out now. What you want to hear,
- 34:26Speaker 2: don't say after hours. We played that already, So what
- 34:28Speaker 2: you besides that?
- 34:29Speaker 3: Play Deep? Deep, that's a fun one.
- 34:32Speaker 2: Deep, all right, Let's get into Deep right now. Make
- 34:34Speaker 2: sure you pick up the album if you haven't got
- 34:36Speaker 2: it already, and congratulations on everything.
- 34:38Speaker 1: The fact that you're just happy. You just look happy
- 34:42Speaker 1: that you are in a place of peace.
- 34:44Speaker 3: I'm super happy.
- 34:45Speaker 2: Well, it's killine, ladies and gentlemen.
- 34:47Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club in the morning. Wake that ass
- 34:50Speaker 1: up in the morning. The Breakfast Club