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Chuck & Buck 6-8 Hour 4: It's Trade Season! ABC's of the Mariners and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Yesterday he debuted in his rehab planing back in Everett
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Speaker 1: where he's played again, and he never misses a beat
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Speaker 1: that one? Do you know? Hemore thirty three because that
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Speaker 1: was the number he wore when he was with Everett before.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it was because he wanted to celebrate
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Speaker 3: Bucky or Kevin Sitzer probably yeah, both of them. No,
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Speaker 3: and it was it was a sold out game, and
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Speaker 3: I just you know, I love that he brought a
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Speaker 3: hibachi chef for everybody after.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just way to go, Cal.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't miss a trick. But I'm gonna wear thirty
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Speaker 1: three because this is what I wear and this is
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Speaker 1: what I wore. And ever, I thought that was a
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Speaker 1: pretty nice touch. And the hibachi thing is even better.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just Cal's like a just I just
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Speaker 3: want to I would like to be like Cal and I.
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Speaker 1: Grow up too good to be true. Now we can
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Speaker 1: just get you hitting on the major league team right
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Speaker 1: on the way on the way he's going to DH
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Speaker 1: yesterday got a hit, he hit one to the wall.
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Speaker 1: But he's going to play. Has a day off today
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Speaker 1: and then tomorrow and Tacoma and he will be behind
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Speaker 1: the plate, and I don't know. Maybe I doubt he's
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Speaker 1: going to be there for very long, maybe a game
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Speaker 1: or two. But I guess there's a chance I'll get
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Speaker 1: to see him play for the Rainiers on Friday. I
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Speaker 1: don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean that would be an added bonus, added fun.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you could get him on to talk with you.
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Speaker 1: I think i'd rather have him on the Mariners by then,
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Speaker 1: But well that's true, but then the Mariners are.
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Speaker 3: They're not back home by then, either, are they. So
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Speaker 3: I wonder if they'd keep him here or send him
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Speaker 3: on the road trip. It's a good question. We'll have
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Speaker 3: to see how these.
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Speaker 1: Well, when he's ready, he's ready, whenever that's going to be.
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Speaker 1: So I would hope that he's going to join the
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Speaker 1: team before the road trip's over, because they're gonna they
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Speaker 1: got another week there in Baltimore. They are, then they're
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Speaker 1: in d C. And before they ever come back. So
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be rehabbing for long,
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Speaker 1: but we shall see.
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Speaker 2: He said he felt good yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Yeah, in the meantime, just to enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: And for those that don't get to normally see cal
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Speaker 1: Raleigh play anymore in their hometown, it was nice that
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Speaker 1: he made a visit in Everett. And then he'll be
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Speaker 1: in Tacoma tomorrow for at least one day, so we
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Speaker 1: shall see. All right, now, let's get to what I
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Speaker 1: wanted to discuss say here today. Oh one other thing,
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Speaker 1: I did have the math right on my moon Yos, now, okay,
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Speaker 1: because I was doing it from April first, right, Okay,
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Speaker 1: so you know you do that like they are sixteen
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Speaker 1: and five since Memorial Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
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Speaker 1: I since April first. Those were my mooney so they
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Speaker 1: were accurate. Okay. I gave two hours ago quick recap
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Speaker 1: for you when Andre's Munios, because I don't know if
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Speaker 1: I did it perfectly in the baseball brunch, I was
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Speaker 1: trying to speed through it. When Munos is pitching on
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Speaker 1: one day rest or fewer, he has an zero point
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Speaker 1: nine to three er. When he's pitching on two days
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Speaker 1: rest or more, he has a nine point two eight er.
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Speaker 1: Now do I have to black and white this for people?
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Speaker 2: I would think it's pretty obvious just hearing that.
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Speaker 1: He wants to pitch more. He thinks he needs to
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Speaker 1: pitch more, even if it's psychological at this point. Pitch
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Speaker 1: the damn guy more. Yeah, and he when he has
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Speaker 1: one day rest, that's the sweet spot. Five games pitched,
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Speaker 1: five innings pitched, no runs allowed, nine strikeouts, two out
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Speaker 1: of two, and save opportunities. That is a zero point
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Speaker 1: zero zero era. So I think he knows of what
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Speaker 1: he speaks, and that is I need to pitch more
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Speaker 1: frequently to get into the rhythm that is required to
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Speaker 1: be a dominant closer. And so I just wanted to
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Speaker 1: clear that up for you if I was at all
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Speaker 1: confusing at eight thirty today or at seven o'clock when
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Speaker 1: discussing that. But I don't want to discuss that here.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about trade season. We're in the
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Speaker 1: midst of trade season. It got underway on June first.
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Speaker 1: We're still a long way away, and so I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to hit you over the head with this, but
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Speaker 1: I am going to pop in here and there and
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Speaker 1: talk trades with you.
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Speaker 2: My little tap on the shoulder, not a hit over
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Speaker 2: the head.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love doing it. I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: listeners out there are like it as well. And on
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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, getting ready for the Tigers series, obviously,
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Speaker 1: Trek Scouble's name kept coming up. Jeff Passing I think
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Speaker 1: led that all of a sudden, he's telling people that
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Speaker 1: the best match for Trek Scooble is Seattle, which raised
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Speaker 1: an eyebrow er to nationwide and got everybody talking here
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Speaker 1: locally about how would that work, why would that be
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Speaker 1: a perfect fit, so on and so forth, So I
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Speaker 1: wanted to discuss it today on the radio program. I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's the perfect fit. I don't think it's
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Speaker 1: a logical solution, and I don't think that the Mariners
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Speaker 1: will do that. It just doesn't feel like something they
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Speaker 1: would do. Now, on the positive end of that, I
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Speaker 1: would say, yes, he represents something despite how good our
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Speaker 1: pitching is, that we don't have and very few teams
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Speaker 1: actually do possess. I mean, this is a top shelf
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Speaker 1: starting pitcher and they're only about five to ten guys
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Speaker 1: on that shelf, so there aren't enough to go around
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Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, and he's one of them. He's
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Speaker 1: a cut up up. We've got We've got very good
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Speaker 1: to great starting pitching here. I'd say, great, we have
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Speaker 1: great starting pitching here.
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Speaker 2: I would agree.
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Speaker 1: And we have kind of an embarrassment of riches, which
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Speaker 1: is why we have to piggyback. It's why Kate Anderson
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Speaker 1: is still in Double A and and has there's no
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Speaker 1: real plan for advancing him to the major league level
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Speaker 1: because there's no room for him right now with this rotation.
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Speaker 1: So we kind of have an embarrassment of riches. But
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Speaker 1: that's one thing we don't have in our big treasure
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Speaker 1: you know, treasure vault. We don't have one of those
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Speaker 1: top shelf guys. I mean, Ryan Wio's not been consistent
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Speaker 1: enough to claim that Bryce Miller's not been good enough
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Speaker 1: long enough to claim that Logan has not taken that
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Speaker 1: next step, and George certainly has not taken that next step,
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Speaker 1: which he was supposed to be that guy of all
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Speaker 1: of them. George Kirby was supposed to be that guy
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Speaker 1: that reached the top shelf. So he would give us
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Speaker 1: something we don't have in our stores, and that is
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Speaker 1: somebody that is an absolute whatever team. He's on, no
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Speaker 1: question about it. Number one starter. When a series begins,
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Speaker 1: he's the guy you want to get the ball to.
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Speaker 1: We wouldn't have a discussion about it like we did
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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs last year. And when there's the
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Speaker 1: season this year, and when the series is on the
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Speaker 1: line and it's a game five, there's no question about
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Speaker 1: who's getting the ball, and he goes for as long
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Speaker 1: as we want. We don't have that guy. He would
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Speaker 1: give us that guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that part is very appealing, I will say
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Speaker 3: it is very appealing, But it does seem funny. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: to have to keep talking about how we've it's a
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Speaker 3: good problem to have to have this many pitchers and
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Speaker 3: then think we should add another one.
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Speaker 1: We should add a seventh. What do we think about
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Speaker 1: two piggybacks?
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Speaker 2: That sounds like a great plan.
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Speaker 1: Hey, bring up Kate Anderson. That's three piggybacks.
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Speaker 2: That's all we're gonna do. We're piggybacking this whole thing.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Scooble and Miller very pitch alone. Everybody else piggybacks.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Okay, that's the one end of it. And
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Speaker 1: then the other end is the logical end of this.
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Speaker 1: Do you really think that the Mariners as hard as
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Speaker 1: they hold on to their prospects. I'm not saying they
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Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, but does it make logical sense that
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Speaker 1: they'd add a thirty two million dollar player coming off
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Speaker 1: an injury list and then have to give a steep
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Speaker 1: but not ridiculous trade package in return for him, just
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Speaker 1: so that he could become a free agent. We are
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Speaker 1: not re signing Trek Scooble. Terrek Scooble's going to make
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Speaker 1: fifty to sixty million dollars a year. Do you really
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Speaker 1: think the Mariners are gonna pony up for that?
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Speaker 2: That's right up there, Alley. I loft contracts like that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no chance.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Now, they did break into the rental area last year.
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Speaker 1: We nearly got to the World Series. That's not something
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Speaker 1: they've done in the past. Naylor and swore us both
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Speaker 1: they brought over at the trading deadline.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, not quite the contracts of Schooble, though, and it
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Speaker 3: worked to a degree.
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Speaker 1: We got to the American League Championship Series, and those
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Speaker 1: two guys, even though Gino didn't hit that much with
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Speaker 1: us obviously one of the biggest postseason hits ever in
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Speaker 1: franchise history. And it worked it worked, and I think
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Speaker 1: it did loosen them up. I think they do consider
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Speaker 1: rental players going forward, but considering what he might demand,
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Speaker 1: that sound like something they would do. They kind of
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Speaker 1: doubled down over the weekend and said, we're not trading
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Speaker 1: any of our six starters at the trading We're not
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Speaker 1: even thinking about that. Well, you clearly would have to
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Speaker 1: trade one of those guys, because I know we're joking,
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Speaker 1: but you can't have two piggybacks in your rotation.
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Speaker 2: No, we're going for three, that's all.
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Speaker 1: You can't have three. And I think Kate Anderson is
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Speaker 1: going to play a factor before this season comes to
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Speaker 1: a close, so we can have three piggybacks for goodness sake.
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Speaker 1: So I just don't think it even makes logical sense. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is what I really wanted to deal with because
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Speaker 1: I love trade season. But with trade season comes silly season.
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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna put this frankly, some of you
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Speaker 1: guys don't have a clue of what a major league
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Speaker 1: trade looks like, and I'm really tired of your lopsided
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Speaker 1: nonsense showing up on my timeline. You don't know how
10:58
Speaker 1: to make a major league A lot of you are
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Speaker 1: making MLB trades and you don't know how to do it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you don't understand what for what?
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Speaker 2: Get your stuff together.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to like elevate myself like, oh
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Speaker 1: I see and you don't. No, no, no, this is
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Speaker 1: just studying. This is just looking at other trades. This
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Speaker 1: is how this is how I do it, and I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty accurate with it. Like you look at what's a
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Speaker 1: comparable trade that has been made in recent history, and
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Speaker 1: the most comparable thing that you can come up with
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Speaker 1: is Juan Soto and not Juan Soto from the Nationals
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Speaker 1: to the Padres. That's a completely different animal. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about Juan Soto from the Padres to the Yankees. When
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Speaker 1: Wan Soto went from the Nationals to the Padres, the Padres,
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Speaker 1: theoretically we're getting him for three postseason runs two and
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Speaker 1: a half years. That's what he had left on his contract,
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Speaker 1: for three postseason runs with arguably the best hitter in
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Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, you're gonna have to give up a ton.
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Speaker 1: That's when you do bring up names like Kate Anderson
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Speaker 1: and Ryan So you got to bring out your big,
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Speaker 1: big guns. I mean, Washington got James Wood out of
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Speaker 1: that deal, c j Abrams out of that deal, and
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Speaker 1: about five other prospects that are either are contributing or
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Speaker 1: still might contribute to it. So three years of Juan
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Speaker 1: Soto at a very cheap contract, Yeah, that's pretty much.
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Speaker 1: You name your price and that's what you get, right.
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Speaker 1: But when you were talking about him going from the
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Speaker 1: Padres to the Yankees and he only had they had
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Speaker 1: one year with him, that's it. One year, and then
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Speaker 1: after that, oh yeah, his contract is third year arbitration,
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Speaker 1: so it was high. And then if you're going to
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Speaker 1: keep him, I mean, it's astronomical. As we saw, Sodo
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Speaker 1: broke the bank. So what was the deal. It was
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Speaker 1: Michael King, a very good, young, controllable starting pitcher that
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Speaker 1: can slip right into your starting rotation if your San Diego,
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Speaker 1: which he did, which he has and continues to do today.
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Speaker 1: And then they gave up a backup thirty two year
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Speaker 1: old catcher in Kyle Hagashioka, and then they got three
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Speaker 1: good but not great prospects. That's what you got for
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Speaker 1: a full season of an everyday player to an organization
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Speaker 1: that had the money to keep him beyond the one year.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Yankees obviously gave Soto a tremendous offer.
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Speaker 1: They just didn't quite give one as high as the
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Speaker 1: New York Mets did. So completely different ballgame there, right,
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Speaker 1: And yet the price for that was one good, established, young,
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Speaker 1: controllable starter, a backup catcher because the Padres hoard backup
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Speaker 1: catchers for some reason, and then good but not great prospects.
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Speaker 1: That was the that was the value. So that's the
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Speaker 1: template that we work off of when you think about
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Speaker 1: a Trek Scoobable trade. And so it's not near Kate
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Speaker 1: Anderson and Ryan Sloan and Las Montes. No chance are
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Speaker 1: we trading any of those guys. I wouldn't trade one
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Speaker 1: of those guys for two months of Jesus at the
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Speaker 1: back end of our you know, at the top of
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Speaker 1: our rotation. Hey, no chance are they going to give
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Speaker 1: up that? Now? Would they give up something? Yes, I
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Speaker 1: think there's a world that they would give up something.
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Speaker 1: But it's if we use Soto as the template, and
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Speaker 1: keep in mind, we're only getting a half season from
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Speaker 1: Schooble and he's coming off an injury and we actually
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Speaker 1: beat him in the playoffs. Right last year, Troy Melton
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Speaker 1: was the guy that gave us trouble last year in
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Speaker 1: the Tiger series, but we're also not going to keep him.
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Speaker 1: So those are three essential variables to try and figure
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Speaker 1: out what we would give up for Terrek Schouble. So
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Speaker 1: as that template, you're probably going to have to give
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Speaker 1: up one of your controllable young starters, not Gilbert because
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Speaker 1: he's only got one year after this. It would be Kirby,
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Speaker 1: wu Miller or Hancock, one of those. And then you
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Speaker 1: probably are going to have to give up a couple
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Speaker 1: good but not great prospects. That's going to be the
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Speaker 1: value of him, I'm telling you right now. And I
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Speaker 1: got a gasp when I said this to Jackson. I
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Speaker 1: don't think I got a gasp out of Hugh. But
15:34
Speaker 1: Jackson and Hugh were doing a show on Friday and
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Speaker 1: had me on, and I said, you could get Terrek
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Speaker 1: Schouble for Bryce Miller, straight up. You could get that trade, hey,
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Speaker 1: one for one. You could get that because of how
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Speaker 1: good Miller looks, how controllable he is going forward, and
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Speaker 1: the Tigers may have just replaced there. I can't afford
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Speaker 1: him ace with Bryce Miller, who looked looks like he's
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Speaker 1: ready to be an ace for somebody right now. And
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Speaker 1: yet I don't think the Mariners would do that for
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Speaker 1: two three months of Trek's Schoobel.
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Speaker 2: No versus what you could get from Miller still.
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Speaker 1: Versus four years of Miller and so and look, and
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Speaker 1: then it's not exactly an area of need. Man, If
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be spending trade capital on something, better be
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Speaker 1: a hitter her. Yeah. I get Schooble gives you something
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Speaker 1: that you don't have, but we're not gonna miss out
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Speaker 1: on the World Series because we don't have enough starting pitching.
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Speaker 1: And don't forget Kate Anderson is going to factor into this.
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Speaker 1: I've already named him the September South Paul. I've named
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Speaker 1: him that three months ago. He is gonna be in
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Speaker 1: this rotation come September, and he's going to contribute to
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Speaker 1: this this thing going forward. All Right. So the idea
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Speaker 1: that you're going to give up top some big, giant
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Speaker 1: man of package, more so than what Juan Soto commanded
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Speaker 1: going from the Padres and the Yankees, that's folly. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it will require quite a bit too much, frankly for
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Speaker 1: a rental player, but it's not going to be the
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Speaker 1: absurd trade packages that you're reading about online. There is
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Speaker 1: a world where it could happen. I don't have any
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Speaker 1: doubt about that. I think there's a far more likely
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Speaker 1: chance that it doesn't happen. But if it does. If
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Speaker 1: it does happen, then it's going to be one of
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Speaker 1: your younger, controllable, established starters. My guess would be like
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Speaker 1: a Hancock, and then you would tack on two good
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Speaker 1: prospects on that. We got plenty of them. No, maybe
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Speaker 1: a couple of names you wouldn't want to hear. Oh,
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Speaker 1: they'll make you uncomfortable, like, oh, you didn't want to
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Speaker 1: give up for Melo. Yeah, yeah, maybe something like that.
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Speaker 1: But it's not going to be Montes, is not going
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Speaker 1: to be Sloan, it's not going to be Anderson, it's
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Speaker 1: not going to be Miller, it's not going to be
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Speaker 1: wo There's no way we're including those guys in a
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Speaker 1: trade for Derek scoobl at least that's my feeling on it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's it. And if I'm adding somebody
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Speaker 1: and I know he, I know what. People they balk
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Speaker 1: at the idea of Byron Buxton because he gets hurt
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Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah he does, he does, And I know
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Speaker 1: he got hurt over the weekend. He ran into a wall.
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Speaker 1: It tends to jar a person. Okay, So he's been
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Speaker 1: mostly healthy the last two and a half years and
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Speaker 1: when he's right, man, is he right? And he's also affordable,
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Speaker 1: and he's under contract. I'm I'm with those who are
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Speaker 1: saying online, I'd rather have the hitter, and I think
18:48
Speaker 1: Buxton's going to be the best available hitter. And I
18:50
Speaker 1: get that he's on got a trade no trade clause,
18:53
Speaker 1: but he's already softened on that. So please follow your
18:57
Speaker 1: current events before you snap at me and try to correct.
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Speaker 1: He already softened on that this offseason, and if he
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Speaker 1: gets to the right team, he's starting to get to
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Speaker 1: that age where he's thinking about, oh, man, if I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna win a championship, it's not gonna be with the
19:11
Speaker 1: rebuilding Twins, is it. So he has already softened on
19:15
Speaker 1: whether or not he would wave the no trade claws.
19:17
Speaker 1: Said apparently he's already said he'd do it for the Braves,
19:20
Speaker 1: and I think he'd do it for the Mariners as well.
19:23
Speaker 2: So let's find out.
19:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's find out. I'd like to have him. You
19:27
Speaker 1: got to make sure he's okay. You got to make
19:29
Speaker 1: sure that they didn't jar too much loose when he
19:31
Speaker 1: hit that wall Friday night. And he is an injury risk,
19:34
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But man, he's been mostly
19:37
Speaker 1: healthy the last two and a half years. And if
19:41
Speaker 1: you can get him healthy, he can carry a team.
19:44
Speaker 1: He can carry a team. He's that special. Pussing can
19:46
Speaker 1: play defense. So it fixes another hole on the team. Yeah, exactly,
19:50
Speaker 1: all right, coming up next, not done with the Mariners,
19:53
Speaker 1: abcs of the MS come your way next on Sports
19:55
Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. They really set their watch.
19:59
Speaker 1: But it's Chuck and it's Ashley with you. And yes,
20:04
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of baseball today. I had a lot
20:05
Speaker 1: to get off my chest, took two days off and whatnot.
20:08
Speaker 2: I get it.
20:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, it is baseball season. I
20:11
Speaker 3: don't know if you know that it's also trade season.
20:13
Speaker 3: So those are things that have to be talked about.
20:15
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean when Ariana Grande goes two days without
20:20
Speaker 1: singing and then not eating, she can't wait till Monday
20:25
Speaker 1: to not eat and sing.
20:27
Speaker 3: Yes, sing a lot to make up for all the
20:29
Speaker 3: non singing, right right and non eediot.
20:31
Speaker 1: She's got to catch up.
20:32
Speaker 2: She's got ketch up to those things she loves have ketchup.
20:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just two things she loves, not eating and singing.
20:39
Speaker 1: So when she goes, when all she does is eat
20:42
Speaker 1: and not sing over the weekend, she can't wait to
20:44
Speaker 1: reverse it exactly. That's kind of what I'm doing today.
20:48
Speaker 2: I like it.
20:48
Speaker 1: I am your ariana Grande of baseball.
20:50
Speaker 2: I've always thought that about you.
20:52
Speaker 1: Let's go to the ABC's. We left off with the
20:54
Speaker 1: letter to unless you did the ABCS. Did you do
20:57
Speaker 1: the ABC's while I was We.
20:58
Speaker 2: Did it on Thursday. We did not do it on Friday.
21:00
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, well it's too late. I went with what
21:02
Speaker 1: I asked off I left off of the letter Jay.
21:05
Speaker 1: Oh for ith, Jay is for Josh. We've not talked
21:08
Speaker 1: about Josh. What a weird weekend for Josh Naylor. This weekend.
21:13
Speaker 1: The Tiger fans all decided they hate him. He did
21:18
Speaker 1: some things that certainly would irritate an opponent, irritate a
21:24
Speaker 1: fan base even more so than the opponent. But I
21:27
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, Maybe we're just maybe this
21:31
Speaker 1: is what being a fan is. That I'm sitting here like,
21:34
Speaker 1: why are you guys? Overreacting to all of this. I mean,
21:37
Speaker 1: other than the mitten throw at Dingler, which I thought
21:40
Speaker 1: was pretty cheap.
21:42
Speaker 3: I thought it was hilarious, but that's because these ours.
21:44
Speaker 3: If it was somebody else, i'd be up in uproar.
21:47
Speaker 1: But I don't get why the anger over the slide
21:49
Speaker 1: like he was in the base path that he didn't
21:52
Speaker 1: come anywhere close to hitting. Yeah, chorus, I've seen a
21:55
Speaker 1: lot dirtier slides than that that nobody even batter than
21:59
Speaker 1: I at.
21:59
Speaker 2: And yet just because now they want to be angry
22:01
Speaker 2: at him.
22:02
Speaker 1: So yes, I mean even cold Keith of the Tiger
22:06
Speaker 1: said afterwards, Yeah, you don't like him when you're playing
22:08
Speaker 1: against him, but you probably do like him if you're
22:10
Speaker 1: playing with him. Yeah, And I guess he's that type
22:13
Speaker 1: of player. When he was at the Guardians, I don't
22:16
Speaker 1: know if I disliked him, but he certainly played with
22:19
Speaker 1: an edge, There's no question about it. You certainly understand
22:23
Speaker 1: why he might get under an opponent's skin. I just
22:25
Speaker 1: didn't think that his sins rose to some level that
22:30
Speaker 1: warranted him getting booed and called dirty all weekend long
22:34
Speaker 1: on social media, and even I mean, that's that's kind
22:38
Speaker 1: of close cold. Keith kind of went close to calling
22:40
Speaker 1: him out publicly. And that's a young player. It's not
22:43
Speaker 1: like Trek Scoogle's saying it. So I don't know. I
22:47
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's a he's an irritating guy if
22:50
Speaker 1: he's on the other team, and he does every once
22:52
Speaker 1: in a while some questionable things, and when he goes
22:55
Speaker 1: to cover the bag, he puts his own body at risk.
22:58
Speaker 1: He's not trying to hurt anybody else. It's just his
23:00
Speaker 1: statement that I'm going to put my own body.
23:02
Speaker 3: At risk, right Yeah, And that at first base it
23:04
Speaker 3: was like, no, he was not going to intentionally try
23:06
Speaker 3: to hurt there. They're a runner, because first of all,
23:09
Speaker 3: he would have ended up probably hurt himself, so that
23:11
Speaker 3: would have been a stupid move. But because they're already irritated,
23:16
Speaker 3: it's like, oh well, now, oh look what he did.
23:18
Speaker 2: Now we can put all of this in.
23:19
Speaker 3: He threw a mit, he almost collided, you know, full
23:24
Speaker 3: had a full collision, and everything is blown out of proportion. Again,
23:28
Speaker 3: if he was not on my team, I'd probably be
23:30
Speaker 3: the same way and hate him.
23:31
Speaker 2: But I love him.
23:33
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he definitely falls in that category. I
23:38
Speaker 1: just to me. I could not. I didn't think that
23:40
Speaker 1: his actions rose to meeting that kind of criticism. Now
23:45
Speaker 1: I do have criticism up because that wasn't all he
23:47
Speaker 1: did this weekend. His defense has been sloppy at times
23:51
Speaker 1: and then brilliant at times, like they've kept Aaron and
23:55
Speaker 1: Ryan gave and hyphen gave him the credit, gave Cole
23:58
Speaker 1: jung all the credit on that great plate. It was
24:00
Speaker 1: good play. I mean he stretched, but Naylor made that play.
24:04
Speaker 2: Yes.
24:04
Speaker 1: And then two innings later, Wisdom gets the air on
24:08
Speaker 1: a ball that I could have caught at first base,
24:10
Speaker 1: and that was just Josh being lazy over Yeah. So
24:13
Speaker 1: and then he gets thrown out trying to steal. And
24:15
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come down too hard on him, because
24:17
Speaker 1: that's how he has to steal bases. He has to
24:20
Speaker 1: sort of semartively, instinctively, I'm ahead of you, and I've
24:24
Speaker 1: figured out your move, and I'm gonna get there before
24:27
Speaker 1: you can figure me out. And so you're gonna get
24:30
Speaker 1: caught occasionally playing a game that way. Yeah, But he
24:35
Speaker 1: just had a hot and cold week, and he's kind
24:37
Speaker 1: of had a hot and cold season so far this year.
24:39
Speaker 3: He has and we talked a little bit about him
24:41
Speaker 3: last week too, and just I was looking up his
24:43
Speaker 3: numbers from last year when he came to the Mariners. Defensively,
24:46
Speaker 3: I think he had a point seven war in the
24:51
Speaker 3: second half of the season defensively two point two overall,
24:55
Speaker 3: and when he was here and he's at like a
24:57
Speaker 3: point minus point seven narrow something. Errors, Yeah, it's it's one.
25:03
Speaker 3: Last year was definitely an anomaly with what we saw
25:05
Speaker 3: when he came here. We were not we were gifted
25:07
Speaker 3: some exceptional defense from him, which is not doesn't seem
25:10
Speaker 3: to be how his career has usually been. This year
25:13
Speaker 3: seems to be more on par with how he is.
25:16
Speaker 3: But it seems extra sloppy.
25:17
Speaker 1: But it's not it's not anything. I mean, you can
25:20
Speaker 1: see the skill over there. It's it's a lack of.
25:25
Speaker 2: Focus, it seems like it at times.
25:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, and taking too many risks, and you know that
25:30
Speaker 1: that needs to be curbed because I think he definitely
25:33
Speaker 1: has the glove work skill over there, and he we
25:36
Speaker 1: know how knowledgeable he is, how smart he is, but
25:38
Speaker 1: I think he's just trying to be too clever when
25:41
Speaker 1: he's between the lines, and I think it's costing him
25:44
Speaker 1: all right, KA is for cad this September South Paul
25:49
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he'll be used in the
25:51
Speaker 1: starting rotation, as I said in the previous segment, but
25:53
Speaker 1: I wanted to just clear it up. I do think
25:55
Speaker 1: he is going to be used. Kate Anderson our top
25:59
Speaker 1: prospect now that Emerson's Colt Emerson is up with the club.
26:04
Speaker 1: He's certainly our best prospect right now, and he's dominating
26:07
Speaker 1: Double A. They're going to use him this hit. Yeah,
26:09
Speaker 1: They're limiting his innings on a night by night basis
26:13
Speaker 1: for a reason because they want him to have enough
26:16
Speaker 1: gas left in the tank to be able to use
26:18
Speaker 1: him probably in September and then into the playoffs. Now
26:21
Speaker 1: whether or not that's as a starter, I don't know.
26:23
Speaker 1: Maybe it will be some sort of bullpen piece, long
26:26
Speaker 1: relief piece that they could use as a weapon because
26:30
Speaker 1: the rest of the league has not seen him yet.
26:33
Speaker 1: But Kate Anderson is going to be used, I can
26:35
Speaker 1: promise you.
26:35
Speaker 3: And I hope he is because I think everybody would
26:37
Speaker 3: be really excited to see him.
26:39
Speaker 1: And he won't be involved in a Schooball trade or
26:41
Speaker 1: a Buxton trade or any other trade or piggyback.
26:45
Speaker 2: He just had to throw that out there.
26:47
Speaker 1: Finally, l is for the lases. I don't know. It's
26:50
Speaker 1: hard for me to believe that I would ever have
26:52
Speaker 1: ell As for laz and yet I got two lasses
26:55
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about today. It's got to be
26:57
Speaker 1: a record. So Lasdas showed us yesterday. First of all,
27:04
Speaker 1: I love the ABS challenge system. I think it's added
27:10
Speaker 1: so much to the viewing experience and to the game,
27:13
Speaker 1: a lot more than I thought it would, and I
27:15
Speaker 1: thought it was going to add a lot. But I
27:18
Speaker 1: think in fairness, what it's highlighted to me is how
27:22
Speaker 1: much how good the umpires really are, that their statistics
27:28
Speaker 1: are on par with hitters and better than something looks
27:31
Speaker 1: it sounds like the catchers are better than the umpires
27:35
Speaker 1: when they're challenging, and they're challenging fifty to fifty balls,
27:38
Speaker 1: but the umpires are kicking the crap out of hitters.
27:41
Speaker 1: So I think we need to acknowledge how good they are.
27:44
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the last Das comes
27:46
Speaker 1: into your world and they're like, see, it's not just
27:50
Speaker 1: highlighting how good the umpires actually are, it's also highlighting
27:56
Speaker 1: how bad the bad ones are.
27:59
Speaker 3: He needs to go, Yeah, he's not good, and you
28:02
Speaker 3: know it is. It is interesting because obviously, when the
28:05
Speaker 3: catchers are doing their challenges, they're the only ones that
28:08
Speaker 3: have a better view of where the pitch actually went
28:10
Speaker 3: than the umpire does. So it makes sense that they
28:12
Speaker 3: would be, you know, be able to get some of
28:15
Speaker 3: those times.
28:15
Speaker 1: They're also trying to fool the umpire, right, they're not
28:17
Speaker 1: trying to fool themselves, right.
28:19
Speaker 2: Exactly that too.
28:21
Speaker 3: But yeah, then then it's just I don't know, I
28:24
Speaker 3: find myself as you. I'm fascinated by this ABS challenge system.
28:27
Speaker 3: It brings a lot. But boy, when the umpire is bad,
28:30
Speaker 3: it is glaring.
28:32
Speaker 1: Glaring, right, and then we still can't take advantage of him.
28:35
Speaker 1: So we had one of the bad umpires last night
28:37
Speaker 1: and we lost versus last Dias on a day in
28:41
Speaker 1: which he was completely off his game.
28:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's an excusable.
28:45
Speaker 1: Dylan Dingler won like seventy four challenges yesterday and we
28:49
Speaker 1: went one for three. Yes, I mean, how bad can
28:53
Speaker 1: we be at this? I want it taken away from Randy.
28:56
Speaker 1: He's lost all of his privileges. He doesn't know when
28:59
Speaker 1: to use it. He just doesn't knowing to use.
29:00
Speaker 3: He gets a little emotional, which is what we said
29:02
Speaker 3: before it started, like you cannot be using it in
29:05
Speaker 3: the situation where it's kind of trying to help your ego.
29:08
Speaker 1: The other Lass is Las Montes. I was told on
29:12
Speaker 1: air and off air by Justin Hollander himself when I
29:16
Speaker 1: joked that Las Montes is going to hit forty home
29:19
Speaker 1: runs this year, and that was a joke. I was
29:21
Speaker 1: kind of kidding around, and he said, if Las Montes
29:26
Speaker 1: is hitting forty home runs this year, I promise you
29:29
Speaker 1: some of those are going to be in a Mariner uniform.
29:31
Speaker 1: That's what he said. Las Montes is at seventeen home
29:35
Speaker 1: runs and we're not even to the All Star break.
29:38
Speaker 1: He is on fire since June. Oh he's hitting five
29:42
Speaker 1: hundred since June started and has already hit five home
29:45
Speaker 1: runs this month. Now, he doesn't hit lefties. I looked
29:49
Speaker 1: up the splits. I mean, he's really struggling against lefties.
29:52
Speaker 1: So you would, undoubtedly if if you brought him up
29:55
Speaker 1: at some point this year, you'd have to use him
29:58
Speaker 1: in a platoon. He'd have to be Rayley's or ken Zone.
30:02
Speaker 1: There's no room for another one of those guys. You
30:04
Speaker 1: can't have three of those guys on the team, so
30:06
Speaker 1: he's got to be one or the other, right, But
30:10
Speaker 1: I mean he's tearing the car. He's at seventeen home
30:12
Speaker 1: runs already, He's at five this month for Arkansas, so
30:15
Speaker 1: he's absolutely on fire. If he's locked in, if he's
30:18
Speaker 1: figured something out at this stage in his young career.
30:20
Speaker 1: He's only twenty one, but they compare him to you
30:23
Speaker 1: or Don Alvarez, for goodness sake, pretty good comparison to
30:26
Speaker 1: have as a power hitter. So if he's suddenly turned
30:30
Speaker 1: that page, if he's figured something out, and we'll need
30:33
Speaker 1: more time to monitor that. According to Hollander himself, he
30:37
Speaker 1: will be up with this team. And I'm wondering where
30:40
Speaker 1: and how. That's what I'm wearing.
30:42
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
30:43
Speaker 1: Let's go all right. One last thing next to close
30:45
Speaker 1: out the show. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
31:00
Speaker 1: my final segment of this Monday edition of Chucking Buck
31:04
Speaker 1: in the Morning, that we hand things off to Greg
31:06
Speaker 1: and Christopher are more capable, Hair, I can't even imagine.
31:13
Speaker 2: That's what I say about them all the time.
31:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can count on them, so lean into it, Ashley.
31:21
Speaker 2: That's all I think about.
31:24
Speaker 1: Are all right, Well, it's our final segment of the day.
31:28
Speaker 1: You know how we do that. It's one last thing time.
31:30
Speaker 1: What do you got?
31:30
Speaker 2: I was about to go on I'm Ashley and this
31:32
Speaker 2: is the news.
31:33
Speaker 4: News.
31:34
Speaker 3: So they came out today and said that Brendan Soresby's
31:38
Speaker 3: appeal has been granted and that he will not be
31:42
Speaker 3: able to play in the first two games for Texas Tech,
31:45
Speaker 3: but he'll be there for their conference opener. Obviously this
31:49
Speaker 3: is pending another appeal. But the idea that it was
31:52
Speaker 3: a local judge who kind of said, you know, we're
31:55
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna give grant this, which, first of all, okay,
31:58
Speaker 3: local judge probably a Texas Tech fan. Yeah, maybe a
32:04
Speaker 3: Texas Tech fan. Definitely has Texas Tech connections.
32:07
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
32:08
Speaker 3: I just I feel like, if I'm a local judge,
32:10
Speaker 3: I'm staying far away from that because that's going to
32:12
Speaker 3: look real bad. It's a lose lose situation for him, right.
32:16
Speaker 3: And also, I'm sorry, Brendan Sorosby. I understand that you
32:21
Speaker 3: had to go to a rehab because you've got a
32:22
Speaker 3: gambling addiction, that it is a real problem, but you
32:25
Speaker 3: bet on college sports, on games that you were playing.
32:29
Speaker 2: In and you are.
32:30
Speaker 3: That is a no, no, there's no excuse you can't.
32:33
Speaker 3: You can't because you have an addiction. Then say it
32:36
Speaker 3: didn't happen. It did happen, go take care of it.
32:39
Speaker 3: They're two separate things, though. You don't get to take
32:42
Speaker 3: care of it and then just go back to business
32:44
Speaker 3: as usual because you went to rehab.
32:46
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever sided with the NCAA
32:48
Speaker 1: since like nineteen eighty five. Yeah, me, neither a while.
32:51
Speaker 1: But if they don't get their way here, I mean,
32:55
Speaker 1: it's total anarchy. Yeah, Like, if they set this precedent
32:59
Speaker 1: that it's so okay to gamble on your own team
33:02
Speaker 1: playing college football such a bad luck, then how are
33:07
Speaker 1: they going to stop this? I mean, obviously the gambling
33:12
Speaker 1: is be getting bigger and bigger and bigger, the daily
33:14
Speaker 1: betting that you know, younger people are are doing it
33:17
Speaker 1: more than ever before. I even considered gambling when I
33:21
Speaker 1: was a kid until I got to I moved to Vegas.
33:24
Speaker 2: I didn't have any money to gamble. But that's different
33:26
Speaker 2: for him.
33:26
Speaker 1: I'm I guess I moved to Vegas, that was the
33:28
Speaker 1: first time I even consider Oh okay, yeah, I'd like
33:31
Speaker 1: to place a bet. That's first I'm even considered it.
33:34
Speaker 1: I mean, kids are growing up on it now, they're
33:35
Speaker 1: doing it in high school for goodness sake. I mean,
33:38
Speaker 1: this is the slippery slope that we all signed up.
33:40
Speaker 1: We all agreed that this is okay introduce into our society.
33:45
Speaker 1: But there's got to be rules in certain areas, and
33:48
Speaker 1: college football, college athletics has to crack down on the
33:52
Speaker 1: swordsby types. Yeah, and if you allow this, then how
33:57
Speaker 1: can you govern the problem going through?
33:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely can't.
34:00
Speaker 3: You can't say you have to then allow gambling on everything,
34:03
Speaker 3: because you just basically have done that by say it. Ah,
34:06
Speaker 3: he's going to be suspended two games. That's not going
34:08
Speaker 3: to stop anybody. And he fully broke the rules, like
34:13
Speaker 3: the well known rules. It wasn't an accident. He didn't
34:15
Speaker 3: accidentally bet on his team one time. This was over
34:18
Speaker 3: and over and over and over.
34:19
Speaker 1: Whoops, I accidentally bet on my team forty times.
34:22
Speaker 2: I did it again, guys.
34:24
Speaker 1: Last thing from me, and we'll do more on this tomorrow.
34:29
Speaker 1: Only got forty five seconds here, So I'll just say this,
34:34
Speaker 1: I really don't know how to cover the World Cup
34:36
Speaker 1: for you. Hell, we were supposed to have meetings. I
34:39
Speaker 1: guess I missed it while I was taking my two
34:42
Speaker 1: days off. I've been waiting for that meeting for a
34:44
Speaker 1: while because I was looking to about a lot. I
34:46
Speaker 1: was looking to gain some valuable information. So I think
34:49
Speaker 1: we spend some time tomorrow, like what do you want
34:51
Speaker 1: from us? What do you want from us over the
34:52
Speaker 1: next few weeks?
34:53
Speaker 2: Let us know a.
34:54
Speaker 1: Show that's not exactly our expertise is not soccer. I
34:58
Speaker 1: admittedly don't even like the sport, but obviously I want
35:01
Speaker 1: all soccer fans, football fans and all of Seattle to
35:04
Speaker 1: just have a ball the next month. What do you
35:07
Speaker 1: so we should spend some time on this tomorrow. What
35:09
Speaker 1: do you want from us? What do you want from
35:11
Speaker 1: the morning show? I won't speak on BAP of other shows.
35:14
Speaker 1: What do you want from us? What information do you
35:16
Speaker 1: want us delivered? Because I'm pretty sure it's not analysis.
35:19
Speaker 2: No, we're going to have an expert join us once
35:21
Speaker 2: a week.
35:21
Speaker 1: We'll get experts to provide analysis. That's that's what That's
35:26
Speaker 1: what we'll do. But beyond that, like, what do you
35:30
Speaker 1: want updates on? What do you want to hear? What
35:33
Speaker 1: do you what encapsulates. Hey, the World Cup is in Seattle,
35:37
Speaker 1: and you guys should be talking about it. Okay, if
35:40
Speaker 1: I meet you that far, just tell me what should
35:43
Speaker 1: we be talking about?
35:44
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that would be helpful.
35:47
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to break this sport
35:49
Speaker 1: down for you. I'm just not going to be able
35:51
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, So maybe we have that discussion tomorrow.
35:55
Speaker 1: I get it.
35:55
Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
35:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get an idea from people exactly how they
35:58
Speaker 1: want their sports talk radio station to cover the World Cup.
36:02
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, we've got Greg Bell Chris Kidd.
36:05
Speaker 1: Like I said, very reliable, very capable. We'll talk to
36:09
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Speaker 4: three KJR FL.
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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by the Museum of History and Industry.
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Speaker 2: It remains a busy commute on the East Side on
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Speaker 2: North