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UK Column News — 25th September 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the 25th of September, 2026, just
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Speaker 1: after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Column News. I'm your host,
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Speaker 1: Mike Robinson. Joining me in the studio today is Patrick Henningsen.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program, Patrick.
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Speaker 2: Great to be with you, Mike.
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Speaker 1: And by video link, as usual, on a Friday, Basil Valentine. Now,
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Speaker 1: later in the program, we're going to have more on
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Speaker 1: Burnham's censorship announcement at the UNGA and Israel's reaction to
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Speaker 1: the walkout from Netanyahu's speech. And we'll have a special guest,
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Speaker 1: Ben Timberley, who's joining us to discuss the upcoming Israeli election,
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Speaker 1: also the Green Party position on Zionism. And we'll have
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Speaker 1: more from Basil on facial recognition rollout in the UK.
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Speaker 1: But we'll begin today with the psychological operation being run
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Speaker 1: in the UK and elsewhere to prepare us for war.
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Speaker 1: Because Patrick, in your presentation on Saturday, you mentioned a
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Speaker 1: BBC article, Sunday, sorry, you mentioned a BBC article that
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Speaker 1: had been published over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of these types of stories, Mike,
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Speaker 2: but obviously the BBC, we have to roll that out
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Speaker 2: because they are the masters at war propaganda. In fact,
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Speaker 2: they wrote the book on it here. We'll bring this story.
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Speaker 2: This is by Alan Little here. War may be coming.
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Speaker 2: Are we psychologically ready? We're seeing this across all European
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Speaker 2: media outlets in the UK as well, not so much
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Speaker 2: in America. But it shows you that they are trying
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Speaker 2: to prime the public for this type of inevitable war.
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Speaker 2: But let's take a closer look at this piece because
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Speaker 2: this is really classic propaganda. We'll bring this up here.
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Speaker 2: So there's the article. Pay attention to the image, Mike.
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Speaker 2: Look closely here. What exactly are they trying to say?
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Speaker 2: Are you ready for war? Well, what they're saying is
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Speaker 2: this transition between a female and a soldier. And a
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Speaker 2: female of color. But also flip-flops to army boots. Flip-flops
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Speaker 2: to army boots and fatigue. So some applied behavioral psychology
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Speaker 2: is working here. But this is propaganda, folks. That's all
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Speaker 2: it is. This is the most blunt form of war propaganda.
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Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's inside. And it's going
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Speaker 2: to bring us to, I think, what you have to
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Speaker 2: share with us, Mike. But what are they saying here?
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Speaker 2: If the UK suddenly found itself at war, would you
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Speaker 2: know what to do? Do you know what would be
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Speaker 2: expected of you? Wow. Wow. So I know Eric Blair is...
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Speaker 2: turning in his grave right now, the government wants us
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Speaker 2: all to start preparing for severe disruption to our lives,
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Speaker 2: like it's inevitable. And, you know, it's amazing here. We'll
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Speaker 2: continue finally here. It's not the tanks you need to
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Speaker 2: worry about, says historian Margaret MacMillan. No, no, no. It's
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Speaker 2: the cutting of cables on the ocean floor. It's the
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Speaker 2: hacking into systems on which so many things depend. The
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Speaker 2: possibility for asymmetric war, for cyber war, is growing by
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Speaker 2: leaps and bounds, says MacMillan. this article by the BBC here.
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Speaker 2: So they're really setting this up like, no, we're not
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Speaker 2: going to have Russian troops on the streets, but you
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Speaker 2: still need to be afraid anyway. And we're going to
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Speaker 2: make sure that we have total sort of fifth generation warfare,
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Speaker 2: total warfare, total mobilization to, I guess, fight the Russian
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Speaker 2: threat here. So this is right across Europe right now,
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Speaker 2: right throughout UK media outlets. It's pretty ubiquitous, Mike, pretty consistent.
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Speaker 2: There is an agenda here and it's intergovernmental.
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Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. Now, other countries, as Patrick said, are
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Speaker 1: ahead of us in this score, by the end of
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Speaker 1: them perhaps being closer to Russia. So I just want
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Speaker 1: to cover preparations in Poland to give us an idea
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Speaker 1: of what we might see much more of in this country. Now,
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Speaker 1: under the Civil Protection Act in Poland, the Government Centre
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Speaker 1: for Security and the Chief of the General Staff drafting
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Speaker 1: a national evacuation plan and that's built from prevention plans
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Speaker 1: and that's for approval by the interior minister and one
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Speaker 1: of the things that that bbc article was talking about
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Speaker 1: was the british government's uh uh equivalent of that the
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Speaker 1: war book the war book exactly now every one of
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Speaker 1: poland's 2477 municipalities has had to produce its own evacuation
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Speaker 1: plan within the last year and they all met the
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Speaker 1: deadline uh so far so good but the psychological so
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Speaker 1: i'll just i'll just uh translate the headline there. So
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Speaker 1: border crossings were evacuated, state of heightened alert at the border.
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Speaker 1: So the psychological attack in Poland has gone beyond making
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Speaker 1: these plans. Six crossings into Ukraine in two eastern Polish
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Speaker 1: provinces were put on heightened readiness in the first hours
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Speaker 1: after Russia's drone strikes in western Ukraine. This is over
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Speaker 1: the last week or so. The interior minister said that
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Speaker 1: new procedures limit how many people in vehicles are on
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Speaker 1: any border crossing at any one time, and that's to
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Speaker 1: allow for quick evacuation. Shelter points, they say, have been
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Speaker 1: designated with more to be built on an emergency basis
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Speaker 1: where they're lacking. And then on the 17th of September,
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Speaker 1: air attack alerts were sent because a Russian drone hit
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Speaker 1: the ground three miles from the Polish border on the
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Speaker 1: Ukrainian side. There was no breach of Polish territory and
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Speaker 1: the sirens sounded in every county. of those two provinces,
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Speaker 1: 630 sirens in total. Evacuations were ordered in 120 buildings,
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Speaker 1: and the alert was lifted after about an hour. But
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Speaker 1: independent Polish media are reporting that residents have been getting
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Speaker 1: similar alerts about Russian strikes on Ukraine almost daily for
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Speaker 1: several days. And the effect of this is just chilling
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Speaker 1: on people's, you know, their fear levels are absolutely rising.
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Speaker 1: And then another part of this is that eastern Belarusians
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Speaker 1: Poland is being prepared as a transit corridor for residents
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Speaker 1: of the Baltic states. Lithuania has approved a national evacuation
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Speaker 1: plan in July this year, and one of Vilnius' three
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Speaker 1: routes runs via Alitus to the Polish border. TV Republika
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Speaker 1: is reporting that the Polish border municipalities had not been
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Speaker 1: consulted and are only now learning about it through the press.
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Speaker 1: And so we're looking at the, at the moment at
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Speaker 1: Podlaskie and the governor's office there said that reception procedures exist,
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Speaker 1: but many of these procedures are classified and are going
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Speaker 1: to be centrally coordinated from Warsaw. And while all this
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Speaker 1: is going on, there's a steady stream of drone stories
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Speaker 1: in the Polish media designed to ramp up the fear.
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Speaker 1: Not all hit the mark, as we'll see in a moment,
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Speaker 1: for example, media reported that Polish military recovered a drone
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Speaker 1: near the beach in Rozenovo and reported it to be
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Speaker 1: a Russian military UAV. It was later confirmed by the
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Speaker 1: Polish government to be a Russian Gebera 2 with a
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Speaker 1: live fragmentation explosive charge, which the military police detonated on
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Speaker 1: the beach. But if you just put that back on
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Speaker 1: screen at the moment, because of course, If we translate
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Speaker 1: the headline here, it says Ministry of National Defense, Russian
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Speaker 1: military drone on the Polish coast. But look at the photograph.
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Speaker 1: The photograph is of the fake drone that was alleged
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Speaker 1: to have hit a building, a Polish building, six or
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Speaker 1: eight months ago. It turned out to be a completely
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Speaker 1: fake story. So this is absolutely pure psychological manipulation. Patrick,
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Speaker 1: people are starting to push back against this relentless psychological attack.
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Speaker 1: And just to give one example, the story of Polish
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Speaker 1: military reconnaissance systems detecting an unauthorized drone near the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Missile Defense Base at Regikovo. And this was on the
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Speaker 1: 15th of September. The drone flight was running for about
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Speaker 1: five minutes, and it was roughly 500 meters from the site.
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Speaker 1: And that's according to Polish media. Then the duty officer
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Speaker 1: reported it to the 112 emergency number, amongst others. And
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Speaker 1: so the political row then began with Confederazia leader Zbigniew
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Speaker 1: saying basically he was writing on X on the 21st
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Speaker 1: of September that Poland keeps 800 soldiers there and what
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Speaker 1: do they do? They ring the police. So the mickey-taking
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Speaker 1: has become a meme in Poland. And that was also
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Speaker 1: mentioned by an MEP, a Polish MEP in the European Parliament,
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Speaker 1: asking the question of whether Poland had built an anti-drone system.
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Speaker 1: And then he answered his own question by saying basically
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Speaker 1: the army's answer is to call 112. But look, the
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Speaker 1: overall direction of travel here, Patrick, is this relentless attack
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Speaker 1: on people's minds with drones at the center, particularly in
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Speaker 1: Eastern Europe. But it's clearly something which is part of
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Speaker 1: the media coverage in this country as well.
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Speaker 2: It's outright manipulation here. And that brings us to up
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Speaker 2: on screen here. The Russian threat. This week's edition of
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Speaker 2: The Russian Threat. It should be a running TV show,
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Speaker 2: more like a vaudeville comedy show at this point, Mike.
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Speaker 2: There he is, the evil Putin, ready to wreak havoc
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Speaker 2: in the minds of Europeans here. So let's take a
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Speaker 2: look at the latest here, and I'm going to bring
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Speaker 2: this up on screen. this is from the danish defense
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Speaker 2: intelligence services that is not an oxymoron folks that's their
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Speaker 2: actual title there but that's another story assessment of the
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Speaker 2: threat from russia here what are they talking about look
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Speaker 2: they're they're citing the like leipzig russian attack on on
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Speaker 2: the airport in leipzig That's been thoroughly debunked, but they're
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Speaker 2: running with it anyway here. A low but growing risk
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Speaker 2: that Russia will launch a limited military attack against one
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Speaker 2: or several NATO countries bordering Russia. Such a limited attack
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Speaker 2: could take the form of isolated strikes with long-range weapons
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Speaker 2: on infrastructure that is vital to the support of Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we need to support Ukraine, but here is
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Speaker 2: the kicker. By the way, you are reading classic war
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Speaker 2: propaganda once again. But this is the NATO false flag
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Speaker 2: But here, in this situation, listen closely, ladies and gentlemen,
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Speaker 2: Russia might then claim that the weapons only struck NATO
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Speaker 2: territory because they were jammed by Ukraine. It could also
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Speaker 2: be a so-called false flag operation, where Russia uses Ukrainian-made
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Speaker 2: drones to attack a NATO country. What they're giving you there, Mike,
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Speaker 2: is the blueprint of a NATO false flag. It's absolutely incredible.
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Speaker 2: Bring this up on screen, folks, there. So, I mean,
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Speaker 2: they're really just admitting here The revelation of the method
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Speaker 2: is what they're doing. Why on earth would Russia even
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Speaker 2: want to do this? But why would NATO want to
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Speaker 2: do it? Of course, they have a motive to do it,
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Speaker 2: to escalate the war and to fully mobilize European and
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Speaker 2: NATO countries, which is what their intended purpose is. It's
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Speaker 2: in every single think tank. paper that we've been citing
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Speaker 2: over the last few years. So it gets better. And
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Speaker 2: we'll bring this up on screen here. This is the latest.
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Speaker 2: So the CIA warned of a Russian drone attack on Spain, France,
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Speaker 2: and Italy. Now, Spain and Italy are two of the
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Speaker 2: most Russian-friendly countries in Europe, specifically Spain. Why on earth
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Speaker 2: would they want to start a war with any of
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Speaker 2: these countries? Why would Russia attack their allies here? So
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Speaker 2: what is this? This is in El Mundo. Part of
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Speaker 2: the source on this, by the way, Russia could launch
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Speaker 2: a fearsome Gerbera missile attack with a range of 600
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Speaker 2: kilometers from ships, according to information obtained by the Lithuanian government.
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Speaker 2: That's the source, the Lithuanian government. I think CIA's John
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Speaker 2: Ratcliffe also gets a credit in this article as well. Again,
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Speaker 2: this is war propaganda. And here it is, a cargo
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Speaker 2: ship could become a launch platform, turning the Mediterranean into
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Speaker 2: a potential new security frontier. Do you see where this
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Speaker 2: is going, everybody here? And finally, these claims have not
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Speaker 2: been independently established, and the alleged Russian plan remains unconfirmed,
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Speaker 2: says the Lithuanian source. I mean, this is just all
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Speaker 2: over the place. But what is the point of this propaganda, Mike?
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Speaker 2: It's basically to ban Russian shipping. And to say to
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Speaker 2: the public that Russia cannot be allowed to have commercial shipping.
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Speaker 2: And think of the things that Russia supplies to the world.
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Speaker 2: Fertilizer for farms and agriculture, food, phosphates, all of these
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Speaker 2: really important products, not just fuel and gas and energy.
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Speaker 2: So they're trying to make this now illegal for Russia
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Speaker 2: to do international trade and commerce. This is hugely dangerous,
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Speaker 2: but not just that. It's the fear propaganda value of
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Speaker 2: this dastardly plot that is completely improbable and is being
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Speaker 2: pushed out in some of the big mainstream media outlets
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Speaker 2: in Europe. This is out of control at the moment.
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Speaker 2: The hysteria is being driven. And who are these sources?
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Speaker 2: Is this from NATO Information Warfare Department in Toronto or
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Speaker 2: Brussels or wherever they're based at the moment or out
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Speaker 2: of Vilnius? What is going on here? There is an agenda.
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Speaker 2: They're pushing hard to get the public to accept, to
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Speaker 2: acquiesce for a war and make it think like it's
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Speaker 2: inevitable and Russia's threatening us at every corner. It's not happening, folks.
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Speaker 2: This is pure fabrications and propaganda. And they're going, they
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Speaker 2: think they're going to get away with it. And I
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Speaker 2: think it's only an aware and informed public that could
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Speaker 2: possibly head this off at the pass.
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the Integrity Initiative was doing a big
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Speaker 1: job of driving this in the late 2010s. That failed
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Speaker 1: because it was exposed. But the mechanism really hasn't changed.
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Speaker 1: And they're still running these clusters of journalists that are
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Speaker 1: quite prepared to push out this kind of anti-Russian propaganda.
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Speaker 2: DFR Labs, Atlantic Council, these are all sort of the
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Speaker 2: NATO-aligned organizations that are pushing all sorts of lies. propaganda
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Speaker 2: and fabrications there's just so many of these organizations now
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Speaker 2: so we're just pointing out just a few.
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Speaker 1: Now basil before we move on to israel have you
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Speaker 1: got any comment on uh what we've just covered.
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Speaker 3: Well just that it's you know absolutely breathtaking really the
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Speaker 3: the arrogance the chutzpah of the intelligence agencies and their
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Speaker 3: minions in the corporate media that think they can get
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Speaker 3: away with ramming this total hogwash down people's throats all
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Speaker 3: sorts of military brass appearing, it seems, every day, ramping
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Speaker 3: up the threat of war, but the British people have
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Speaker 3: no beef with the Russians at all. There have been,
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Speaker 3: as I mentioned in my speech last week, dark murmurings
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Speaker 3: of a potential mass casualty false flag event to be
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Speaker 3: blamed on the Russians, because at the moment, public opinion
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Speaker 3: is nowhere near where the warmongers want it. So something
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Speaker 3: deeply unpleasant is may be required to happen in order
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Speaker 3: to shift public opinion.
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Speaker 1: I totally agree with that.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Basil, okay, let's move on then to the question of the, well,
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Speaker 1: let's start with the Israeli, the upcoming Israeli elections.
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Speaker 3: Yes, well, next month, Israel goes to the polls to
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Speaker 3: elect a new Neset. And for the first time, the
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Speaker 3: Arab list are banned from standing. Absolutely extraordinary stuff here. This,
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Speaker 3: you know, Arabs still comprise about 15% of the total population,
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Speaker 3: I should say, native Palestinians of 1947 Israel. And they
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Speaker 3: have the vote, although the basic laws debar them from
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Speaker 3: holding senior office. The basic laws are what passed for
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Speaker 3: a constitution in Israel. Well, in the past, they've been
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Speaker 3: able to contest elections and have had some small representation
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Speaker 3: in the Nesset because Israel has a very strict proportional
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Speaker 3: representation system. It's just about the only good thing you
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Speaker 3: can say about the only democracy in the Middle East.
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Speaker 3: But this is naked racism now. The Palestinian population 1946
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Speaker 3: Israel will have no choice but to vote for one
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Speaker 3: of a selection of ultra-Zionist parties. So it's in this
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Speaker 3: context that the Green Party annual conference, its biggest ever
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Speaker 3: autumn conference, which gathers in Brighton tomorrow week, Saturday the
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Speaker 3: 2nd of October. First item of business is the motion
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Speaker 3: Zionism is racism. Well, apart from the fact the clue
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Speaker 3: is in the name, this latest ban on Arab parties
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Speaker 3: in the elections is the clearest indication that Israel is
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Speaker 3: not only racist, but also that often trotted out claim
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Speaker 3: that it's the only democracy in the Middle East. I
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Speaker 3: saw Julia Hartley Brewer repeating that just 24 hours before
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Speaker 3: this announcement. Well, that's got to go in the dustbin now,
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Speaker 3: because obviously, if you're banning political parties that represent a
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Speaker 3: sizable chunk of your population, then you're not a democracy.
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Speaker 3: Simple as that, even within the borders of 1946 Israel.
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Speaker 3: Of course, the Green Party is now a significant electoral
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Speaker 3: force in Britain, particularly since Zach Polanski, who, of course,
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Speaker 3: as many viewers will know, is himself Jewish, since Zach
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Speaker 3: was elected leader. Now, Zach is also standing in the
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Speaker 3: Hoban and St Pancras by-election, the seat that was vacated
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Speaker 3: by Keir Starmer. And that's caused lots of shenanigans. Zak
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Speaker 3: wanted the conference itself to be postponed so that activists
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Speaker 3: could devote all their energies to helping him win a
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Speaker 3: notable victory and get into the House of Commons. But unsurprisingly,
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Speaker 3: the party membership are having none of that. And the
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Speaker 3: Green Party is, of course, quite capable of holding a
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Speaker 3: conference at the same time as contesting an election. Now,
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Speaker 3: joining me to discuss this and break it all down
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Speaker 3: is the anti-corruption investigator, Ben Timberley. Welcome to the programme, Ben.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back. Good to be here.
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Speaker 3: It's a pleasure. Now, I noticed on another programme on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: you pointed out quite accurately that the establishment, including the
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Speaker 3: corporate media, really don't want this to be discussed, let
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Speaker 3: alone passed as a motion by what is now a
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Speaker 3: major political party, because it puts the word Zionism first.
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Speaker 3: right at the centre of our political lexicon. And once
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Speaker 3: people start doing a bit of research, then they discover
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Speaker 3: that they might actually be anti-Zionist and that that's a perfectly.
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Speaker 1: Legitimate position to hold.
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Speaker 3: And indeed, if the Green Party declares Zionism is racism,
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Speaker 3: then it is anti-Zionist. This is a debate we haven't
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Speaker 3: had in full in Britain ever before, is it, Ben?
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Speaker 4: No, it's not. I think there is a multi-pronged story here.
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Speaker 4: We'll come back to the Green Party and that situation shortly.
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Speaker 4: The narrative about Zionism that Israel has spent many, many
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Speaker 4: years cultivating is falling apart in front of the rise.
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Speaker 4: Not only geopolitically in terms of on the ground, in
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Speaker 4: terms of warfare, their situation is becoming untenable with what
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Speaker 4: Ansar Allah and the Houthis are doing in Yemen, as
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Speaker 4: well as what is happening with Iran. There is a
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Speaker 4: particular blend of pressure that the Israeli government cannot face now.
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Speaker 4: And I think their move to ban Israel Palestinian representation
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Speaker 4: in the Knesset is absolutely a sign of their desperation
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Speaker 4: to try and memory hole the entire episode that Zionism
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Speaker 4: has perpetrated on the region. I think the challenge that
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Speaker 4: we are facing here in the UK is that, as
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Speaker 4: you quite rightly pointed out, Zionism as a topic is
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Speaker 4: trying to memory hole it. They're trying to disappear this
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Speaker 4: from our popular consciousness, despite the best efforts of campaigners
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Speaker 4: and activists throughout the UK. They have succeeded to a
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Speaker 4: point simply because the mainstream media as it is, is
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Speaker 4: so supine, is so compliant with their wishes that they've
20:48
Speaker 4: been able to achieve a measure of success in terms
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Speaker 4: of doing that. I think the outcome of that, if
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Speaker 4: anyone was watching TV last night, the Channel 4 Dispatches
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Speaker 4: programme on at quarter past 11, the graveyard shift last night,
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Speaker 4: It was all about Gaza and the British government's role
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Speaker 4: in the genocide and the complicity that the British government
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Speaker 4: has in that genocide. I think the fact that that
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Speaker 4: programme was allowed to be aired at all tells you
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Speaker 4: that there is now a thread weaving its way through
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Speaker 4: British society where people want to know about Zionism. They
21:26
Speaker 4: want to understand what it is that we're facing. They
21:28
Speaker 4: want to understand the issues that are being presented. And
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Speaker 4: I think the program last night, although it didn't mention Zionism,
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Speaker 4: it was strictly focused on genocide, on Gaza, on Palestine,
21:39
Speaker 4: on Israel. It did a good job of highlighting the
21:42
Speaker 4: crimes that Zionism is specifically responsible for. And I think
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Speaker 4: the situation with the Green Party is just in the
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Speaker 4: element of this. There is a strong effort to prevent
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Speaker 4: us from discussing Zionism anywhere in the public sphere. Because
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Speaker 4: to do so gives name to the specific breed of
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Speaker 4: fascism that Zionism actually is. And I'm hoping that when
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Speaker 4: that motion passes at conference, if they don't pull the
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Speaker 4: fire alarms, issue bomb threats or do whatever else they're
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Speaker 4: going to try and do to get the conference shut down,
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Speaker 4: which I'm told many activists fully expect them to try
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Speaker 4: and do, if that motion passes, there is panic everywhere.
22:31
Speaker 4: in their ranks. They are absolutely panicking. For a mainstream,
22:35
Speaker 4: you know, semi-major political grouping now to adopt an anti-Zionist
22:39
Speaker 4: position is unprecedented in the UK. And, you know, they're
22:44
Speaker 4: even invoking the Red Terror idea of Soviet propaganda, or
22:49
Speaker 4: anti-Soviet propaganda, rather, in the name of this by comparing
22:53
Speaker 4: the Zionism is racism motion to the Soviet motion that
22:59
Speaker 4: was successful at the UN that labeled Zionism as racism
23:04
Speaker 4: and was held up until 1991, I believe. That was
23:08
Speaker 4: when it was rescinded by the powers that be. And
23:11
Speaker 4: this red baiting, this sort of anti-Semitism baiting that is
23:16
Speaker 4: going on around this motion It's panic because they know
23:20
Speaker 4: the genius out of the bottle and they will do
23:22
Speaker 4: everything they can to subvert British democracy and the processes
23:25
Speaker 4: within a particular party to prevent this motion from ever
23:29
Speaker 4: coming to pass. It would put their MPs and their
23:32
Speaker 4: leadership positions under a specific kind of pain because they
23:36
Speaker 4: would have to defend and adhere to and abide by
23:39
Speaker 4: a policy that was rationally and fairly and legally binding
23:45
Speaker 4: for the party to adopt. They don't want to do that.
23:48
Speaker 4: They can't, you know, that to them is completely untenable.
23:51
Speaker 4: And I have heard rumours that Zach Polanski may well
23:54
Speaker 4: step down as leader if this motion passes.
23:58
Speaker 3: Well, certainly if the amendments he suggested in his Zetio
24:02
Speaker 3: interview are not passed. Very interesting point, Ben, with regard
24:07
Speaker 3: to dispatches and indeed what the Foreign Secretary has been
24:11
Speaker 3: saying recently. Criticism of Israel, particularly as it commits genocide
24:16
Speaker 3: and the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank proceeds apace.
24:20
Speaker 3: That is permitted, but criticism of the ideology of Zionism,
24:25
Speaker 3: in other words, the underlying principles behind the founding of
24:29
Speaker 3: the State of Israel, that's what they want to try
24:32
Speaker 3: and exclude from national debate.
24:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, they absolutely do. I think part of the memory-holding
24:39
Speaker 4: process is to try and convince people that there was
24:43
Speaker 4: just a patch of ground where Palestine is, and was.
24:47
Speaker 4: They want people to accept the idea that Israel magically
24:51
Speaker 4: appeared out of nowhere and that there was nobody there
24:54
Speaker 4: to be displaced in the first place. It's a delusion.
24:57
Speaker 4: It's a racist, bigoted, fascist delusion. And I think there
25:02
Speaker 4: is a real problem with many parts of society that
25:07
Speaker 4: seem to accept this. They can't get away with it.
25:10
Speaker 4: And I don't think that this particular magic trick is
25:13
Speaker 4: impressing the audience enough. They are failing dismally. They have
25:17
Speaker 4: spent untold billions of US money on their Hasbara program
25:21
Speaker 4: to convince people that this is real and this delusion
25:25
Speaker 4: is somehow acceptable.
25:26
Speaker 1: It's not.
25:26
Speaker 5: It isn't.
25:27
Speaker 1: And it won't.
25:27
Speaker 4: And they are failing. And I think the movement can
25:31
Speaker 4: take heart from that perspective and show and understand that
25:34
Speaker 4: they are winning. And I think this Zionism is racism
25:38
Speaker 4: motion within the Green Party is emblematic of that. And
25:41
Speaker 4: that is why the campaign against anti-Semitism have threatened legal
25:45
Speaker 4: action to actually shut this down within the Green Party
25:49
Speaker 4: and stop it from ever becoming policy, because they know
25:51
Speaker 4: that if it passes, they're in deep trouble.
25:56
Speaker 3: It'll be absolutely fascinating to see how the corporate media
25:59
Speaker 3: react to this as and when the motion is passed,
26:02
Speaker 3: because all the indications are that it has the support
26:04
Speaker 3: of the overwhelming majority of Green Party members. Worth bearing
26:09
Speaker 3: in mind, the Green Party has tripled or quadrupled in
26:12
Speaker 3: size in recent months. Ben Timberley, thank you so much
26:15
Speaker 3: for joining us today on UK Column News.
26:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Basil. Ben, just before you go, we do
26:20
Speaker 1: have one more question.
26:22
Speaker 2: Patrick, go ahead. Yeah, Ben, I just want to get
26:25
Speaker 2: a brief comment. I mean, on the irony of the
26:27
Speaker 2: fact that it was Zach Polanski with his mercurial media
26:31
Speaker 2: performances that brought so many new young members and neophytes
26:36
Speaker 2: into the green fold. And how on this issue, he's
26:38
Speaker 2: kind of now on his back heels. It's absolutely extraordinary.
26:42
Speaker 2: Just want to get your comment on this turn.
26:46
Speaker 4: So what I've been led to believe by various well-placed
26:49
Speaker 4: people within the Green Party is that the MPs, the
26:53
Speaker 4: senior politico class within the Green Party, are the ones
26:56
Speaker 4: that are panicking because these are the people that rely
26:59
Speaker 4: on kissing the ring, so to speak, in terms of
27:02
Speaker 4: having acceptance in the political world from Zionism and Zionists
27:09
Speaker 4: to hold their positions. Zach Polanski has always wanted to
27:12
Speaker 4: be an MP. That's his main focus. He wants that badge.
27:16
Speaker 4: He wants that pension. He wants that privilege. And that
27:19
Speaker 4: is his focus. Now, if his role as leader of
27:22
Speaker 4: the party is compromised by the Zionism is racism motion
27:27
Speaker 4: based on his political support and his acceptance from his peers,
27:31
Speaker 4: then his position becomes untenable. So he's trying to please
27:34
Speaker 4: both parties, as in both sides of the argument at
27:37
Speaker 4: the moment, one by saying, oh, we need to water
27:39
Speaker 4: this down. We mustn't have anything that makes certain members
27:43
Speaker 4: of the Jewish community feel uncomfortable. And whilst he's simultaneously
27:47
Speaker 4: saying to the other side, no, I am an anti-Zionist.
27:50
Speaker 4: And the problem is they are mutually exclusive positions. You
27:53
Speaker 4: cannot hold both. And he has made a fundamental, fatal
27:57
Speaker 4: political error by adopting both positions and having absolutely no
28:01
Speaker 4: cover for doing so.
28:04
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28:06
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28:09
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28:39
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28:47
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29:04
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Okay, now following on from our coverage of Burnham's
29:07
Speaker 1: speech at the United Nations General Assembly, there was one
29:10
Speaker 1: announcement that we do need to discuss a little bit further.
29:13
Speaker 1: I'm not going to inflict his voice on everyone once again,
29:15
Speaker 1: but this is what he said. He said, today I'm
29:18
Speaker 1: tasking our security chiefs to begin work on a new
29:21
Speaker 1: National Centre for Information Defence to detect, attribute and disrupt
29:25
Speaker 1: these kinds of hostile state information attacks to support and
29:29
Speaker 1: defend our democracy. Just to translate that, what he means
29:33
Speaker 1: is that this new body will be set up to
29:36
Speaker 1: support and defend government narratives. It's not about democracy in
29:40
Speaker 1: the widest sense. It's about government storytelling. So I've given
29:44
Speaker 1: a lot of time on the UK column news programs
29:47
Speaker 1: to the network of agencies within the British regime designed
29:50
Speaker 1: to carry out that task up to this point. What
29:53
Speaker 1: Burnham is announcing is the merging of all these effectively,
29:56
Speaker 1: of these functions into a new body But critically, Patrick,
30:00
Speaker 1: I think the critical term here is information defense because
30:03
Speaker 1: it implies a war footing. And I think that takes
30:06
Speaker 1: it to another level because once you start bringing national
30:09
Speaker 1: security and warfare into this, then it becomes much more
30:14
Speaker 1: draconian for the people on the receiving end of the exercise.
30:17
Speaker 1: So I think this is a major escalation on what
30:20
Speaker 1: we've seen before. So far, the regime hasn't published any
30:24
Speaker 1: more information, but Christopher Hope from GB News said, quoted
30:27
Speaker 1: from a briefing paper on his ex-account. And two phrases
30:31
Speaker 1: from the briefing paper don't appear anywhere in Burnham's speech,
30:35
Speaker 1: and they absolutely stand out. And that is that the
30:37
Speaker 1: centre would improve what they describe as community cohesion. How
30:42
Speaker 1: are they going to do that? Are they going to
30:43
Speaker 1: do that by removing from communities anybody that's pushing forward
30:48
Speaker 1: a dissenting voice? and also that it would prevent a
30:51
Speaker 1: distorted and untrue narrative about Britain. So there's an acknowledgement
30:55
Speaker 1: in the briefing paper that this is all about narratives
30:58
Speaker 1: more than anything else. It's not about the truth. Now,
31:01
Speaker 1: the same briefing material is also the source for the
31:05
Speaker 1: structure of his speech, but the centre and the structure
31:10
Speaker 1: of the briefing sorry, the inevitable structure that we're going
31:15
Speaker 1: to put on screen here for a second. Now, the
31:16
Speaker 1: center is initially being run out of the office for
31:18
Speaker 1: the prime minister in the cabinet and working alongside intelligence agencies.
31:23
Speaker 1: But they're also talking about working alongside government departments, the
31:26
Speaker 1: police and social media firms. So the new network diagram
31:31
Speaker 1: is essentially going to look like this. And on the
31:33
Speaker 1: face of it, it makes things look better because obviously
31:36
Speaker 1: on the right-hand side, all those other agencies appear to
31:40
Speaker 1: be disappearing. But in fact, it's worse. Now, Chai Onwura,
31:45
Speaker 1: the chair of the, and I apologise if I pronounce
31:47
Speaker 1: that name incorrectly, chair of the Science and Technology Committee,
31:51
Speaker 1: welcomed a single body to counter state disinformation, which her
31:55
Speaker 1: committee had recommended in its July 2025 report on social
31:59
Speaker 1: media and misinformation that was following the Southport riots. But
32:03
Speaker 1: she clearly doesn't feel it goes far enough, and so
32:05
Speaker 1: she urged the government to revisit our committee's recommendations on
32:09
Speaker 1: the algorithmic amplification of legal but harmful content. And Patrick,
32:14
Speaker 1: once again, we have this concept of legal but harmful.
32:17
Speaker 1: It was dropped from the Online Safety Act, but it's
32:20
Speaker 1: just constantly coming back as an underlying principle of all
32:24
Speaker 1: their censorship regime.
32:25
Speaker 2: Well, let me just note or start here, Mike, but
32:28
Speaker 2: let's just go back to the technology chair there. She's
32:32
Speaker 2: talking about the Southport riots.
32:34
Speaker 4: Yes.
32:34
Speaker 2: That's what she was working on. One of the biggest
32:36
Speaker 2: purveyors of disinformation and fake propaganda in the wake of
32:41
Speaker 2: the Southport riots was GB News, actually, putting false narratives
32:46
Speaker 2: that the Muslims from the boats did the stabbing and
32:50
Speaker 2: so forth. All of that was eventually debunked. And so
32:53
Speaker 2: what happens when mainstream media are involved in misinformation? Do
32:58
Speaker 2: they get a free pass? The answer, of course, is yes,
33:02
Speaker 2: they get a free pass. So they're talking about industrial-scale
33:05
Speaker 2: assault on our information space. What are they talking about?
33:07
Speaker 2: People that have opinions? Are they talking about RT? Well,
33:12
Speaker 2: they've already banned RT, and so has Europe, which we'll
33:15
Speaker 2: talk about shortly, Mike. But it's funny, when we're in America,
33:19
Speaker 2: RT is fully accessible. Is it something that the British
33:23
Speaker 2: are more prone to Russian influence than the Americans? I mean,
33:26
Speaker 2: at some point, this whole thing is so ridiculous. It's
33:30
Speaker 2: not the threat. What they want to do is keep
33:32
Speaker 2: people from seeing accurate information from other foreign news outlets.
33:38
Speaker 2: But that's risky if those go against what the BBC
33:41
Speaker 2: happens to be pushing. You can see they're creating an
33:43
Speaker 2: information echo chamber, an information bubble, and they want us
33:47
Speaker 2: stuck in that bubble. So we actually don't know what's
33:50
Speaker 2: going on outside of the bubble. That's exactly what's being
33:53
Speaker 2: constructed here. That's what this is all about.
33:55
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now there's been pushback from the usual suspects, including
33:58
Speaker 1: Big Brother Watch, who aside from UK Column have probably
34:01
Speaker 1: done the most to highlight these issues. Now they demand
34:04
Speaker 1: oversight by Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee, which they say
34:09
Speaker 1: has been shut out of counter disinformation work despite asking
34:13
Speaker 1: to be involved. That isn't going to happen in my opinion,
34:17
Speaker 1: but they also highlight that the counter disinformation unit, the
34:20
Speaker 1: rapid response unit, RICU and the 77 Brigade all flagged
34:24
Speaker 1: lawful speech by MPs, journalists and campaigners in previous years.
34:29
Speaker 1: And they also want to know how the This new
34:31
Speaker 1: body relates to the national security online information team, which
34:36
Speaker 1: they also point out has strayed into policing lawful domestic speech.
34:40
Speaker 1: And as I said already, I would argue that this
34:43
Speaker 1: is a dangerous escalation of what we've seen up until now.
34:45
Speaker 1: We're moving to the idea of counter disinformation openly being
34:50
Speaker 1: on a war footing and also openly describing it as
34:55
Speaker 1: working with social media companies. And although we've all known
34:58
Speaker 1: that they've been working with social media companies, it's never
35:01
Speaker 1: You know, any time they've been asked outright, did you
35:04
Speaker 1: demand that this post was taken down by a social
35:06
Speaker 1: media company? They've always denied this in the past. I
35:09
Speaker 1: don't think they're really wanting or even caring to deny
35:12
Speaker 1: it in the future.
35:13
Speaker 2: And the other thing, Mike, if your appraisal or you
35:16
Speaker 2: or Brian or anybody analyzing the Ukraine battlefield and what's
35:19
Speaker 2: going on in Donbass, if that happens to coincide or
35:22
Speaker 2: agree with what Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, is saying,
35:27
Speaker 2: or somebody on RT, Does that mean that you're getting
35:30
Speaker 2: your talking points spoon-fed to you by the Russian state?
35:34
Speaker 2: Or does it mean that you're actually looking at it
35:37
Speaker 2: objectively and they happen to be saying the same thing? Well,
35:40
Speaker 2: an alarm should go off to intelligent people that maybe
35:44
Speaker 2: there's a chance that what you're saying might actually be true.
35:47
Speaker 2: There might be something in it. But you could say, no,
35:50
Speaker 2: it's weakening Ukraine's war effort. It's weakening NATO. It's hurting
35:55
Speaker 2: NATO's war effort. It's hurting confidence in NATO. That's where
36:00
Speaker 2: we're heading here. What is the difference between this and
36:03
Speaker 2: Stalin's Pravda?
36:05
Speaker 1: Good question. Now, you mentioned RT, so let's just bring
36:08
Speaker 1: this on screen because what's France saying here? In France,
36:12
Speaker 1: uploading a reposting content from the banned Russian state network,
36:17
Speaker 1: Russia Today, is a criminal violation of European Union sanctions
36:20
Speaker 1: punishable by a maximum sentence of up to five years
36:22
Speaker 1: in prison. That's escalating and that's taking it a bit further.
36:27
Speaker 1: And also here, what do we have? A landmark July
36:29
Speaker 1: 2026 ruling by the European Court of Justice clarified that
36:34
Speaker 1: the broadcasting ban applies functionally. It extends to independent bloggers,
36:38
Speaker 1: free websites, and individuals who upload or share banned content online,
36:42
Speaker 1: removing any gray area for non-commercial or donation-funded platforms. We
36:47
Speaker 1: are really heading in a dark direction.
36:49
Speaker 2: Notice how they're calling that a gray area. So if
36:52
Speaker 2: you're just news gathering or news aggregating, they consider that
36:56
Speaker 2: to be a gray area within the landscape of information warfare.
37:00
Speaker 1: Yes.
37:01
Speaker 2: Total mobilization. So forget about your free speech. Forget about
37:05
Speaker 2: freedom of the press. Forget about the post-enlightenment rationality, logic,
37:09
Speaker 2: and coming to your own conclusions based on objective facts.
37:13
Speaker 2: All of that has gone out the window.
37:15
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Just very briefly want to mention, Patrick, President Xi's arrival.
37:21
Speaker 1: To see President Trump, there we have them on screen.
37:25
Speaker 1: We have a little bit of video here because apparently
37:28
Speaker 1: Trump was quite shocked by the overflying of aircraft just
37:34
Speaker 1: after this happened. Let's just play this video clip. She
38:02
Speaker 1: looked unimpressed there, Patrick.
38:03
Speaker 2: Thoroughly unimpressed. But why was Trump actually panicking there? Because
38:06
Speaker 2: I think the squirrel on his head was in danger
38:09
Speaker 2: of flying away. I think that's why the grimace of
38:12
Speaker 2: Trump right there.
38:13
Speaker 4: Yeah.
38:14
Speaker 2: Okay.
38:14
Speaker 1: Now, obviously, Wednesday's program was focusing quite a lot on
38:19
Speaker 1: the UN General Assembly. But what hadn't happened yet was
38:22
Speaker 1: Netanyahu's speech. But give us a bit more on this.
38:25
Speaker 2: Well, just to recap here, I mean, we've talked about
38:28
Speaker 2: this on Wednesday's program, the UN General Assembly. Donald Trump
38:32
Speaker 2: gave his threat of annihilation, his genocidal screed against the
38:37
Speaker 2: Iranians there. And President Pozesky from Iran had an opportunity
38:41
Speaker 2: to rebut him. And he took the high road here.
38:44
Speaker 2: He's showing pictures of the Minab school and basically saying
38:46
Speaker 2: there's no better definition of a state terrorist than the
38:49
Speaker 2: United States government. of America and just rattled off so
38:52
Speaker 2: many examples of it. Thoroughly embarrassing, but that would be
38:56
Speaker 2: if there was any shame left in Donald Trump, which
38:58
Speaker 2: of course there is none, so it's impossible for him
39:01
Speaker 2: to be embarrassed. A psychopath is not self-aware, as we
39:06
Speaker 2: know from clinical studies here. But let's move on. The
39:09
Speaker 2: point is, Mike, the point is, and I'm going to
39:12
Speaker 2: say this and show you something important. Donald Trump has
39:15
Speaker 2: become that fascist that is decried in the Nuremberg That
39:21
Speaker 2: is the whole founding pillar of the United Nations here.
39:24
Speaker 2: And we'll take a look at the Nuremberg Principles. You
39:27
Speaker 2: can look at this on the UN's own website. Why
39:30
Speaker 2: do we have a United Nations? Well, in the wake
39:32
Speaker 2: of World War II, it was seen as a major
39:35
Speaker 2: priority to protect sovereignty of countries, borders, etc. Here, principles
39:39
Speaker 2: of international law recognized in the charter of the Nuremberg
39:43
Speaker 2: Tribunal in the judgment of the tribunal here. And this
39:47
Speaker 2: is what it says. And it's very clear. The Nuremberg
39:50
Speaker 2: Principles are a set of seven guidelines detailing international law,
39:54
Speaker 2: defining war crimes, crimes against peace, and crimes against humanity
39:58
Speaker 2: established by the UN International Law Commission in 1950 based
40:02
Speaker 2: on the Nuremberg Trials. The ultimate crime, Mike, was not
40:07
Speaker 2: even the Holocaust as such, but the leading line is
40:11
Speaker 2: undeclared wars of aggression, which they pinned that on Nazi Germany,
40:15
Speaker 2: and that was seen as the cause of everything else.
40:18
Speaker 2: So they're focusing on that. Of course, had human rights
40:21
Speaker 2: and everything else, the Genocide Convention came after that. It's
40:25
Speaker 2: really important to understand that. So the United States is
40:28
Speaker 2: basically undermining the very foundations of the UN Charter and
40:33
Speaker 2: every single other treaty. That is law in the UK,
40:36
Speaker 2: law in every European country. It's been ratified by our parliaments,
40:39
Speaker 2: Congress and Senate in the US as well. And Trump's
40:42
Speaker 2: completely out of bounds on all of this. Incredible, right?
40:47
Speaker 4: But.
40:48
Speaker 2: That was a big story. But the bigger story, Mike,
40:50
Speaker 2: was Benjamin Netanyahu. So he had to kind of sneak
40:54
Speaker 2: into New Jersey. He wasn't confident flying into JFK with
40:58
Speaker 2: potential threats of arrest by Mayor Mamdani. And he curtailed
41:02
Speaker 2: his itinerary. So he was in and out of there
41:04
Speaker 2: in less than 24 hours. I guess he wasn't worried
41:07
Speaker 2: at all. He was totally confident and bullshit. So here's
41:10
Speaker 2: Netanyahu taking the podium at the General Assembly and watch
41:14
Speaker 2: what the crowd does and watch his reaction.
41:18
Speaker 5: If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet
41:22
Speaker 5: left this hall, please do so now. Thank you very much.
41:54
Speaker 2: So that was the reaction to Netanyahu. And next, let's
41:59
Speaker 2: look at what he actually said, because it is so outrageous.
42:03
Speaker 2: This is next level by the Israeli prime minister here.
42:07
Speaker 2: Watch and listen.
42:11
Speaker 5: Now, this isn't the first time we are faced with
42:15
Speaker 5: a threat of annihilation. On June 5th, 1967, Israel was
42:22
Speaker 5: surrounded by enemies who openly swore to destroy us. We
42:27
Speaker 5: weren't then in Judea, Samaria, the heart of the historic
42:32
Speaker 5: homeland of the Jewish people. We weren't in Gaza. We
42:37
Speaker 5: weren't on the Golan Heights. Oh, and Mr. Oshara, you
42:41
Speaker 5: should know the Jews have been on the Golan Heights
42:44
Speaker 5: since the days of Moses. You can read it in
42:46
Speaker 5: the Bible. No, at that time, on the eve of
42:54
Speaker 5: the Six-Day War in 1967, we weren't in any of
42:57
Speaker 5: these places. We were in a tiny sliver of land.
43:01
Speaker 5: We still are. That is equal to about one-third of
43:05
Speaker 5: one percent of the land mass of the entire Arab world. Yet,
43:12
Speaker 5: they accuse Israel, tiny Israel, of colonialism. Some colonialism. And
43:20
Speaker 5: who's accusing us? All among them are people in Britain
43:25
Speaker 5: and in France. For God's sakes, they invented the term.
43:30
Speaker 5: They're colonies. Brace the entire globe. Colonialism, give us a break.
43:40
Speaker 2: Well, you know, on that note, Mike, he accuses everybody
43:43
Speaker 2: of misusing the term colonialism. Well, wait a minute. Bring
43:47
Speaker 2: this up on screen. This is the World Zionist Conference.
43:50
Speaker 2: Plan of Colonizing Palestine with Jews, 1902. These are the
43:56
Speaker 2: international Zionist organizations getting together, planning to, quote, colonize Palestine.
44:02
Speaker 2: So that's the founders of the concept of the creation
44:06
Speaker 2: of the colonial settler project known as Israel. And just
44:10
Speaker 2: while we're here, he's saying that, you know, they haven't
44:13
Speaker 2: done any colonization here. Israel's not into that game. Let's
44:18
Speaker 2: bring this up on screen here. Of course, the famous
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Speaker 2: disappearing Palestine graphic here. This is only up to 2012,
44:25
Speaker 2: by the way. That white bit of their borders now
44:27
Speaker 2: extended into the Golan Heights and South Lebanon. Of course,
44:31
Speaker 2: they have been stealing more additional land. So what on
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Speaker 2: earth is this guy actually talking about here? His protests
44:40
Speaker 2: have taken on more delusional qualities as time goes by.
44:45
Speaker 2: So a sharp rebuttal here, Mike, by the Turkish delegation,
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Speaker 2: one of the best rebuttals to Netanyahu. We'll play this
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Speaker 2: just briefly. Mr.
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Speaker 6: President, I take the floor to exercise the right of
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Speaker 6: reply of my delegation in response to the statement delivered
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Speaker 6: by the Prime Minister of Israel earlier today. My delegation
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Speaker 6: categorically rejects the baseless, malicious allegations directed at my country
45:14
Speaker 6: and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The fact that numerous delegations
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Speaker 6: walked out during Israeli Prime Minister's speech is not a
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Speaker 6: minor gesture. It is a resounding diplomatic condemnation. The message
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Speaker 6: is unmistakable. His words are discredited, his policies are rejected,
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Speaker 6: and his isolation is deepening by the day. The international
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Speaker 6: community does not tolerate listening to a morally bankrupt leader
45:41
Speaker 6: who stands under an arrest warrant for war crimes and
45:44
Speaker 6: crimes against humanity. His fabrications are desperate, hollow attempts to
45:50
Speaker 6: conceal Israel's genocide in Gaza and its relentless aggression in
45:54
Speaker 6: the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, and beyond. No propaganda can
45:59
Speaker 6: erase the truth. Thousands of civilians have been slaughtered, homes
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Speaker 6: and hospitals reduced to rubble, schools deliberately targeted, and the
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Speaker 6: humanitarian aid obstructed with intent. These are crimes that will
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Speaker 6: not be forgotten nor forgiven.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty powerful. And that was just one of many
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Speaker 2: things that have come out of the UN General Assembly.
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Speaker 2: Not a great week for Netanyahu.
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Speaker 4: Indeed.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Patrick. Basil, let's come on to you now
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Speaker 1: and bring us up to date what's going on in
46:32
Speaker 1: the UK with respect to facial recognition.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, Mike. Yes, lots of big domestic story here. One
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Speaker 3: we're going to keep an eye on on a regular
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Speaker 3: basis here on UK Column News with our facial recognition watch. Whitney, yes,
46:49
Speaker 3: the Shires in Oxfordshire, they had the vans in the
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Speaker 3: public square on Friday. on September the 16th. And meanwhile,
46:58
Speaker 3: up in Tyneside, they've got 200 AI facial recognition CCTV cameras. Meanwhile,
47:07
Speaker 3: Meta are being sued over facial recognition training for smart glasses. Now,
47:12
Speaker 3: these are highly controversial. I can remember seeing X-ray glasses
47:18
Speaker 3: advertised in the back of comics as a kid. Well, finally,
47:21
Speaker 3: this is the real thing. And they've been extracting biometric
47:28
Speaker 3: information for an unreleased facial recognition system. And this has
47:32
Speaker 3: resulted in a nationwide class action lawsuit in the United
47:37
Speaker 3: States filed in the District Court of Illinois. Clearview, meanwhile,
47:44
Speaker 3: have an AI prototype pointing to the next phase of
47:49
Speaker 3: facial recognition, identity intelligence. Now, this is important. Clearview AI
47:55
Speaker 3: has developed an experimental AI tool that could extend facial
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Speaker 3: recognition search into a broader automated research on a person's
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Speaker 3: online identity, background, and associates. So in this case, after
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Speaker 3: a law enforcement user runs a Clearview facial recognition search,
48:18
Speaker 3: their software, Inquiry IQ, can use that information to build
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Speaker 3: what the company calls a candidate graph of possible identities
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Speaker 3: and associates while compiling potential addresses, phone numbers, employees, aliases,
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Speaker 3: social media accounts, and arrest histories, in other words, a
48:38
Speaker 3: complete surveillance breakdown of who you are. He's very hastily
48:42
Speaker 3: assembled from a picture of your face. Now, your face
48:47
Speaker 3: is also going to be used, yes, believe it or not,
48:50
Speaker 3: to pay for groceries, starting with coffee. Shoppers are going
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Speaker 3: to be able to pay by face. At the UK,
48:58
Speaker 3: this is Revolut, the online banking app, who are highlighting
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Speaker 3: facial recognition at the store checkouts. Customers will initially so
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Speaker 3: reports the standard be able to try out the technology
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Speaker 3: at kiss the hippo cafes in three locations in london
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Speaker 3: simply tap pay with smile on a Revolut register screen
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Speaker 3: before completing a facial identity check, similar to using facial
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Speaker 3: recognition to unlock a smartphone or a banking app. Revolut
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Speaker 3: steaming ahead with this. If you go to their website,
49:33
Speaker 3: you can download the privacy notice. And a nice picture
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Speaker 3: there of a woman with a smile publicizing this initiative.
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Speaker 3: Pay with Smile will run on Revolut Register, the company's
49:46
Speaker 3: new hospitality point of sales hardware system. It's a two
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Speaker 3: screen system designed to combine payments, banking and floor operations
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Speaker 3: for merchants because there is a pain point once customers
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Speaker 3: are enrolled. Biometric authentication will be used to verify the
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Speaker 3: user's identity, replacing, according to Revolut, outdated fragmented tills with
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Speaker 3: a hyper-efficient checkout experience designed to solve consumer and merchant
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Speaker 3: pain points, according to Revolut's Alex Kodina. The pain point,
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Speaker 3: of course, is when you actually have to reach into
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Speaker 3: your wallet for a £ 10 note or or perhaps re-enter
50:31
Speaker 3: your code number in your phone before tapping and paying.
50:36
Speaker 3: That's a pain point. Much simpler just to smile at
50:40
Speaker 3: the camera.
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Speaker 2: I'll just be carrying my Basil Valentine mask in my pocket.
50:46
Speaker 2: About that tenner you owe me, Basil. I'll be having
50:49
Speaker 2: a few coffees on the house. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but Basil.
50:53
Speaker 3: I wonder the extent to which it could be snookered
50:56
Speaker 3: if you've grown a beard, or perhaps where... spectacles only
50:59
Speaker 3: occasionally things like this it's just ludicrous isn't it yeah.
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Speaker 1: But basil uh you know we've been saying this over
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Speaker 1: the last number of weeks we should be embracing inconvenience
51:09
Speaker 1: they're of course selling this as being a convenience for
51:11
Speaker 1: people you can just get in get your coffee get
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Speaker 1: out again uh but we need to be encouraging people
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Speaker 1: to embrace inconvenience Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: I'm inconvenienced every day, Mike.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. Patrick, let's come back to you then. And, well,
51:30
Speaker 1: of course, there was a lot of noise made a
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Speaker 1: week or two ago on Britain's decision to place sanctions
51:36
Speaker 1: on West Bank settlements. But as we mentioned, those sanctions
51:42
Speaker 1: themselves don't really mean much. But actually, the broader claims
51:46
Speaker 1: by the British government of sanctioning Israel over this issue
51:50
Speaker 1: They mean nothing either.
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Speaker 2: Oh, there were a lot of ministers coming out promoting
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Speaker 2: Ed Miliband's move there. They claimed at the time that
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Speaker 2: applications for arms and exports that materially contribute to the
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Speaker 2: occupation would be halted. Miliband was calling it a double lock,
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Speaker 2: a double lock against arms sales. But was it actually halted?
52:11
Speaker 2: And let's look closer here. Great reporting, as usual, by
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Speaker 2: Declassified UKers John McAvoy and Dania Akkad here. UK sanctions
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Speaker 2: on Israel result in no extra arms export suspensions. Let's
52:27
Speaker 2: take a closer look at this. I was shocked when
52:30
Speaker 2: I saw this because of with all the hype, Mike.
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Speaker 2: Information now disclosed to Parliament details how measures have not
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Speaker 2: resulted in any arms export. export licenses for Israel being
52:40
Speaker 2: canceled or blocked. And in response to the question from
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Speaker 2: Iqbal Mohammed MP, the Trade Department acknowledged last week how
52:51
Speaker 2: no additional licenses have been revoked or suspended since the
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Speaker 2: 8th of September 2026. And just to round this story
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Speaker 2: out here, the conclusion, well, the new measures have made
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Speaker 2: no material impact on the flow of military items between
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Speaker 2: London and Tel Aviv. So what was all the hype about?
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Speaker 2: I personally think, and of course, we can talk to
53:13
Speaker 2: our colleagues on the line about this, maybe, Mike, but
53:16
Speaker 2: that announcement also took a lot of wind out of
53:20
Speaker 2: the sails of the Green Party, among other factions in
53:23
Speaker 2: this country that are pushing back against the government. So
53:27
Speaker 2: by making the announcement, by making it look like Labour's
53:30
Speaker 2: doing something, it took some pressure off Andy Burnham. of
53:33
Speaker 2: which there was a considerable amount prior to that. And
53:36
Speaker 2: now we find out it was a head fake, as
53:38
Speaker 2: they say, in basketball. So I don't know if Ben
53:42
Speaker 2: or Basil have anything to say about that. We can
53:44
Speaker 2: certainly talk about it now or later. Well, Ben's still
53:46
Speaker 2: with us. Thanks for staying. Ben, I mean, do you
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Speaker 2: have any comment on this story?
53:51
Speaker 4: I think it's just another example of a long line of...
53:56
Speaker 4: cover stories, really, to carry on with business as usual.
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Speaker 4: The British government has a long history of doing this,
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Speaker 4: of providing arms under the table when they're not supposed to,
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Speaker 4: when the public opinion is going in the direction that
54:09
Speaker 4: is different to their sponsors. They will absolutely make anything
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Speaker 4: up they need to be able to carry on and
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Speaker 4: tell the story to continue supplying arms. The Defense industry
54:21
Speaker 4: in the UK is incredibly powerful. They have lobbyists everywhere.
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Speaker 4: It is absolutely no surprise that their profits and their
54:28
Speaker 4: margins would outweigh the need for humanitarian concerns in Israel
54:34
Speaker 4: and Palestine. And I think there is an interesting precedent
54:38
Speaker 4: to raise. Once again, the dispatches channel program last night
54:41
Speaker 4: about Gaza. and about the British government's complicity in the
54:43
Speaker 4: genocide in Gaza, there was a trend mentioned in that
54:48
Speaker 4: programme about the British government not having enough information to
54:52
Speaker 4: be able to consider that a breach of international humanitarian
54:55
Speaker 4: law had been committed when they knew full well that
54:59
Speaker 4: it had been breached and they did have the information,
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Speaker 4: they just preferred to not report it. This is another
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Speaker 4: example of that process where they misrepresent the truth on
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Speaker 4: the ground, and take an action that is favorable for
55:12
Speaker 4: them and their sponsors.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Ben. Thank you. Right, Basil, just
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Speaker 1: on time here, let's head over to, in case you
55:21
Speaker 1: missed it. I mean, I have to say the first
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Speaker 1: article here, I do wonder how much money the British
55:29
Speaker 1: government has for clothing for the military.
55:34
Speaker 3: Well, yes, you picked this up, Mike. Group Captain Jez Currie,
55:37
Speaker 3: station commander up in North Wales, where a fighter crashed
55:44
Speaker 3: the other day. And his cap does appear to be moth-eaten.
55:47
Speaker 3: If you look just above his right ear, you can
55:50
Speaker 3: see a couple of holes in the cap. So perhaps
55:55
Speaker 3: funds are short for new berets, I should say, for
55:58
Speaker 3: serving officers. Right, moving swiftly on, Tom Watson. has been
56:03
Speaker 3: hired by Palantir for a PR campaign to fight what's
56:08
Speaker 3: described as the left wing campaign against their involvement in
56:12
Speaker 3: the NHS. It's not left wing. It's just fundamental decency.
56:17
Speaker 3: And if you want to support the opposition to Palantir,
56:21
Speaker 3: there's a rally in London upcoming on Thursday, the 1st
56:24
Speaker 3: of October at 6 p.m. outside the Palantir HQ in
56:29
Speaker 3: Soho Square. That, of course, is organised by our friend,
56:33
Speaker 3: friend of the channel, Heiko Kuh, and I plan on
56:36
Speaker 3: being there myself. Next up, a little insight into Israeli thinking,
56:42
Speaker 3: this time from an academic, Orit Perlov. Bomb their children,
56:46
Speaker 3: she's referring to the Iranians, not their infrastructure. Parents deserve
56:50
Speaker 3: to see their children die. It took us two years
56:54
Speaker 3: to do this in Gaza. We haven't done it in
56:56
Speaker 3: Lebanon yet. Sadly, our attitude is all too typical. Next up,
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Speaker 3: a revealing meme that's been doing the rounds. Ed Sheeran
57:08
Speaker 3: crying for himself. Ridiculous demonstration of self-pity in his abysmal speech.
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Speaker 3: And people have been contrasting that with a Palestinian father
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Speaker 3: crying for his starving baby. Now, this is very important,
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Speaker 3: this next story. The pre-inquest hearing has begun into the
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Speaker 3: deaths of the three British aid workers murdered by Israeli
57:31
Speaker 3: defence forces in Gaza. There is going to be an inquest.
57:35
Speaker 3: Of course, two weeks ago, the Israeli authorities indicated there
57:39
Speaker 3: would be no criminal investigation. Interestingly, a foreign secretary at
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Speaker 3: Miliband has described the attack as cold-blooded killings, and British,
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Speaker 3: Australian and Canadian governments, all of whom lost personnel, described
57:53
Speaker 3: that decision as shameful.
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Speaker 1: Here's the kicker.
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Speaker 3: During the preliminary hearing, senior coroner Maria Voisin confirmed that
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Speaker 3: she is minded to designate interested party status to the IDF,
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Speaker 3: the Israeli government, and Colonel Nachi Mendel, who ordered the strike.
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Speaker 3: Of course, further consideration will be given to the involvement
58:15
Speaker 3: of the UK Ministry of Defense. Remember that footage from
58:19
Speaker 3: the spy planes out of Akrotiri and Elbit Systems. So
58:23
Speaker 3: it'll be very interesting to see what comes out of this.
58:26
Speaker 3: It might have a very direct bearing on the prescription
58:29
Speaker 3: of Palestine action, particularly if it seems people are being
58:32
Speaker 3: thrown in prisons. We're trying to destroy weapons that are
58:36
Speaker 3: used to kill British citizens, in this case, veterans on
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Speaker 3: a humanitarian mission. So watch that. We'll have more about
58:43
Speaker 3: that in the days and weeks to come. Laura Loomer,
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Speaker 3: a key Zionist American influencer who now apparently has the
58:52
Speaker 3: ear of Donald Trump. She is predicting that many Americans
58:58
Speaker 3: will soon die in a terrorist attack that will be
59:01
Speaker 3: 10 times worse than 9-11. How could she possibly know?
59:05
Speaker 3: Do we have another case of the dancing Israelis here?
59:10
Speaker 3: And finally, yes, Macklemore himself. He's two weeks away from
59:15
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, says Netanyahu in his latest pronouncement. So
59:20
Speaker 3: we better bomb him. He has actually announced a free
59:23
Speaker 3: Palestine tour, much to the irritation of of the Israel lobby,
59:29
Speaker 3: of course. So who else, I wonder, is two weeks
59:33
Speaker 3: away from a nuclear weapon? Remember, Britain itself has been
59:37
Speaker 3: designated a potential danger to Israel by Netanyahu.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Basil. That's another In Case You
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Speaker 1: Missed It for Friday. And that brings us to the
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Speaker 1: end of today's UK column news. Thank you. Everybody for
59:53
Speaker 1: watching today. We will leave it there. If you're a
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Speaker 1: 1pm on Monday. See you then.
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Speaker 5: Bye-bye.