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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight shocking data on rents that helps to explain by
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Speaker 2: so many voters have had it with mass immigration and
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Speaker 2: the big parties that have been pushing it. Well, So
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Speaker 2: tonight music stars cheer the end of America and the
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Speaker 2: Epstein files, more shame for the royal family, plus rare
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Speaker 2: video of the powerful pedophile and whether he really is
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Speaker 2: the devil. But first, this week should tell us whether
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Speaker 2: the Liberals and Nationals, the two formally great conservative parties,
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Speaker 2: are finished are the walking dead zombies? This week should
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Speaker 2: in particular tell us where the Paul Enhans is One
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Speaker 2: Nation is serious and will destroy them. And what frustrates
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Speaker 2: me is the commentary of her today from people not
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Speaker 2: understanding exactly why the Liberals and Nationals is our out
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Speaker 2: of love and purpose that the latest poll by Redbridge
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Speaker 2: shows one nation now on twenty eight percent, way of
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Speaker 2: the coalition which is on a disastrous nineteen percent, nearly
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Speaker 2: extinction levels, even though the Labor government isn't getting much
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Speaker 2: love either, backed by just a third of the voters.
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Speaker 2: But I've heard so many liberals, as so many commentators,
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Speaker 2: think these unprecedently terrible poll numbers. Ah they're just a
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Speaker 2: flesh wound. Get a new leader a bit like the
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Speaker 2: last one. No one too radical, mind, you get back
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Speaker 2: together with the Nationals in a coalition, show a bit
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Speaker 2: of patience and she'll come good. I think them say, oh,
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Speaker 2: one Nation, now, that's just the protest vote. Really the voters,
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Speaker 2: they'll come back to the coalition come election time, because
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Speaker 2: no one seriously takes Paul Enhanson as Prime minis the material.
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Speaker 2: No one thinks that one nation is a talent or
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Speaker 2: experience or smarts to run a government. Except one nation
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Speaker 2: is working on exactly that. That's why tomorrow is so important.
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Speaker 2: One Nation has already seen what a critical difference it's
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Speaker 2: made to them to get Barnaby Joyce to join them
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Speaker 2: last December, to get a former deputy Prime minister and
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Speaker 2: Nationals leader on their side.
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Speaker 1: And they're desperate now for more star.
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Speaker 2: Recruits and defectors to build momentum, build credibility, look more
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Speaker 2: like a party of government, if that's possible.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I said a week or so ago that one Nation
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Speaker 2: has now lined up another star recruit or two, the
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Speaker 2: first of which will be announced tomorrow, and Joyce has
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Speaker 2: hinted that it's someone in the coalition that media put
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Speaker 2: the spotlight, of course, and likely suspects. Nationals MP Colin
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Speaker 2: Boyce today tried and failed to get the Nationals to
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Speaker 2: replace leader David Litlproud and also fellow Nationals Lou O'Brien,
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Speaker 2: former policeman, who has already threatened to desert to One Nation,
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Speaker 2: although both he and boys seem to have since ruled
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Speaker 2: out joining that party. But now speculation is that one
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Speaker 2: of the One Nation recruits may in fact be Liberal
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Speaker 2: Senator Alex Antik, who crucially boosts who wouldn't boost One
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Speaker 2: Nation's numbers in the Senate immediately? It boosts them to
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Speaker 2: five that would already give them one more than the Nationals,
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Speaker 2: with Barnaby Joyce still to join them in the Senate
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Speaker 2: at the next election. Now's response today was not a denial,
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Speaker 2: who said, there's nothing worse than spoiling a surprise. I
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Speaker 2: think it's for your own good to wait and see.
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Speaker 2: And there is also speculation that another recruit could be
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Speaker 2: former Liberal Senator Cory Bernardi, who quit the Liberals to
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Speaker 2: start is Australian Conservative Party, which flopped but Ardie wrote
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Speaker 2: last week seeing One Nation's progress is a great lessen
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Speaker 2: for anyone aspiring to make change in their own life
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Speaker 2: or in the lives of others. And that's why I
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Speaker 2: am lending my shoulder to the One Nation wheel. I'm
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Speaker 2: so happy that their time has come. And what do
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Speaker 2: you know, James Ashby, Paul Enhances very clevergy for staff
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Speaker 2: is tonight in Adelaide ahead of tomorrow's meeting or announcement.
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Speaker 2: And Adelaide is the home state of Alex Antik and
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Speaker 2: Cory Bernardi. Now I've been told by One Nation that
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Speaker 2: one recruit they've got lined up will help to boost
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Speaker 2: my nation's economics credentials, which is critical. But the thing is,
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Speaker 2: I don't know that any of the names I've mentioned
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Speaker 2: will do that. So who knows what's coming? Watch the
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Speaker 2: space to Mara. It's going to tell a big story
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Speaker 2: one way or the other. But as for the Liberals,
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Speaker 2: what a disaster with no clear path to victory or recovery.
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Speaker 2: Victory dream on. Susan Lee has shown great leader and
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Speaker 2: pressure grace under pressure. I mean, give her that grace
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Speaker 2: and calm and dignity, but she lacks authority and whatever
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Speaker 2: she says, the voter is it's just not buying it
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Speaker 2: from her. It's tragic, but a former soldier, Andrew Hasey,
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Speaker 2: young conservative who wanted to replace Lee, really shake things
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Speaker 2: up about out on Friday after learning the Conservatives that
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Speaker 2: he thought we're backing him, we're not.
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Speaker 1: And the liberal left.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile thought that he was too radical, too much of
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Speaker 2: a change, a.
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Speaker 1: Kiddy, too much of a change.
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Speaker 2: I don't think any change now could be big enough
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Speaker 2: to save the Liberals, but there you go.
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Speaker 1: Instead.
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Speaker 2: Ifally is toppled this week or next, if it will
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Speaker 2: be by someone offering only small change, and that would
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Speaker 2: be the Liberals. Defense spokesman Angus Taylor, Conservative, yes, and
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Speaker 2: very strong on economics, but not seen as being as
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Speaker 2: hardline as Hasty, and honestly, doubtlessly he is less green
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Speaker 2: and that counts. I mean, Hasty's leadership till we was
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Speaker 2: so amateur that it really did answer suspicions that is
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Speaker 2: not yet quite ready for high office. Fancy not knowing
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Speaker 2: who your friends were going to even your friends were
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Speaker 2: going to support. I mean, first Hasty's team told me
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Speaker 2: his friend James Patterson was backing Hasty, and then I
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Speaker 2: was told Rats he didn't, So there it is.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: I have nothing against Taylor at all is a nice man.
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Speaker 2: I only ask if he represents the change the Liberals need.
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Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see. Meanwhile, Nationals leader David
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Speaker 2: Little Proud this afternoon survived another joke of a challenge,
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Speaker 2: and this time from the little known Colin Boyce Nationals MP.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't even get another Nationals politician to second this
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Speaker 2: move to hold a vote. So what did that achieve?
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Speaker 4: Now?
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Speaker 2: One of the premises today was gloating in his speech
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Speaker 2: to his party room even as inflation has meanwhile rising
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Speaker 2: on his disastrous watch, in interest rates tomorrow are luckily
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Speaker 2: to go up again.
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Speaker 5: We know that there are real cost of living pressures
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Speaker 5: still there in our economy. That's why we have plans
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Speaker 5: to actually do something about it. That is the focus
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Speaker 5: of this united, cohesive, orderly government led by the people
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Speaker 5: in this room across a united caucus, and a stance
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Speaker 5: in contrast with our opponents, because you can't fight for
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Speaker 5: Australia if you're obsessed by fighting each other. And that
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Speaker 5: is what we are seeing on the other side, with
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Speaker 5: the fragmentation of people competing for who can be more
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Speaker 5: right wing, who can be more divisive.
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Speaker 2: And it is true that labor is united. This government
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Speaker 2: is you noted. Our tragedy is that it's united in
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Speaker 2: doing the wrong thing. But to the other thing, many
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Speaker 2: commentators didn't seem to get. I mean, they say, oh,
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Speaker 2: the liberal conservatives, they should just shut up. I do
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Speaker 2: just don't want the party to lurch to the right.
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Speaker 2: They've just got to unite with the Nationals again, show
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Speaker 2: some unity, come back to the center. But that ignores
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Speaker 2: two things. The first is that some politicians do see
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Speaker 2: what's wrong with this country and they do want to
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Speaker 2: change things, even if it upsets people. They didn't get
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Speaker 2: into politics to just go with the flow. For instance,
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Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty, Paul and Hansen have long thought it was
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Speaker 2: wrong to flood the country with mass immigration, wrong to
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Speaker 2: go net zero at such a horrible cost of the economy.
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Speaker 2: They fought for it, got called extremists. And second, you
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Speaker 2: cannot ignore that so many voters now feel the same.
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Speaker 2: They also want change immigration that's zero, certainly costs of living.
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Speaker 2: They feel the big parties don't represent them anymore. And
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Speaker 2: last week's poll number show one nation that's the line
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Speaker 2: in orange here is now taking votes not just from
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Speaker 2: the coalition parties in blue, but from labor as well.
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Speaker 2: That's the top line. Never look, that's the discink now
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Speaker 2: as well. And I bet that's the working class labor
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Speaker 2: voters switching to One Nation. And when you see that,
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Speaker 2: I mean a conservative liberal MPs meant to give up
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Speaker 2: on changing the direction of their party in the country.
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Speaker 2: Are they meant to give all these frustrated voters the.
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Speaker 1: Back of their hand? And that's what's destroying the Liberals.
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Speaker 1: One lot of.
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Speaker 2: Their MPs have one said of ideas, the other has
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Speaker 2: very different ones. One side wants to win votes from
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Speaker 2: the teal independence, the other ontes to win them from
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Speaker 2: the One Nation supporters and working class labor. How do
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Speaker 2: you make a strong coalition from that, especially when the
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Speaker 2: Nationals also want to be more conservative on immigration, on
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Speaker 2: climate policies, on the national symbols of multiculturalism. So it's
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Speaker 2: not the politicians have changed, it's the voters. They no
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Speaker 2: longer accept wishy washy and that spells death for the
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Speaker 2: Liberals unless they change profoundly.
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Speaker 1: And with unity.
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Speaker 2: Any chance you reckon, Well, it did seem that the
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Speaker 2: Liberals and Nationals will now do a deal to put
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Speaker 2: the band back together again for the third since the election.
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Speaker 2: Have become a coalition once more. Liberal leader Susan Lee,
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Speaker 2: Nationals leader David Lil Proud are talking to one another
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Speaker 2: over some sort of peace deal this very evening to
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Speaker 2: be approved, hopefully, they think, by the party tomorrow, after
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Speaker 2: Little Prow's Nationals colleagues told them today, listen, guy, mate,
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Speaker 2: you've got.
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Speaker 1: To get this. This got to get together again. We
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Speaker 1: can't go it alone.
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Speaker 2: But you know it's a joke, a third attempt to
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Speaker 2: pretend they're united and can be trusted to be united,
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Speaker 2: and can they even unite even now?
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Speaker 1: I mean Lee.
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Speaker 2: Insists that three Nationals front benches, she's sacked and against
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Speaker 2: Slaver's new hate group's law. When a shadow cabinet decided
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Speaker 2: to back them, they should stay sacked. Little Proud and
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Speaker 2: sistly takes them back, so there's no compromise on this
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Speaker 2: very fundamental point. One of them has to lose. So
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Speaker 2: this internal brawl continues when the only thing the Liberals
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Speaker 2: and Nationals should be talking about is interest rates. The
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Speaker 2: Reserve almost certain tomorrow to raise them because government spending
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Speaker 2: is just recklessly high and getting higher as a proportion
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Speaker 2: of the economy. Joining me as a political panel Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 2: former Victorian Liberal leader and Steve Conroy, former Labor senator
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Speaker 2: and cabinet minister.
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Speaker 1: Michael Kroger. The coalition getting back together.
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Speaker 2: Again after what is eleven days at Tantrance by the Nationals.
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Speaker 1: Who walked out. Well, even if they can do it at.
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Speaker 2: What costs, seems to me the damage is now done.
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Speaker 6: Well Andrew, it has done an immense amount of damage
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Speaker 6: and it's done an ense amount of damage to Susan
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Speaker 6: Lee and the Liberal Party are now standing in the electorate.
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Speaker 6: That's why we're on the massive total now of nineteen
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Speaker 6: percent according to Red Ridge. So yeah, it's been difficult
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Speaker 6: for the Liberal Party. This is the second time the
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Speaker 6: National Party have done this. They get angry, what because
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Speaker 6: shadow Cabinet Minister's breach, Shadow Cabinet Solidarity offer to resign
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Speaker 6: as they should have, and then they walk out of
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Speaker 6: the coulation because Susan Lee has the audacity to accept
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Speaker 6: their resignation. I mean, this is preposterous stuff and I
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Speaker 6: just hope David Little Proud can eat a bit of
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Speaker 6: humble pie, come back with Susan Lee, organize the coalition
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Speaker 6: getting back together, and even then it's going to take
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Speaker 6: a long time before the Electric Believes were united.
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Speaker 1: But this behavior by.
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Speaker 6: The National Party is unprecedented and as you say, it
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Speaker 6: has been immensely damaging and damaging to Susan Lee.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Steve, and you know, what is this unity?
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's possible when the Nationals are
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Speaker 2: determined to go, you know more in one nation type
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Speaker 2: of territory. You could put it like that, but maybe
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Speaker 2: you could put it as traditional Nationals again conservative, while
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Speaker 2: one key part of the Liberals want to go and
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Speaker 2: compete with Tears. I mean, I don't know how you
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Speaker 2: form a coalition when it cuts across such critical issues
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Speaker 2: like mass immigration and like climate policy.
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Speaker 1: I think you've hit the nail on the head.
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Speaker 3: Andrew is going to be very hard to find a
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Speaker 3: way to combine the need to win those inner city
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Speaker 3: till seats which are core traditional liberal seats, and to
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Speaker 3: try and for the National Party flank stave off Pauline
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Speaker 3: Hanson and one Nation. So this is a job that
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Speaker 3: is beyond Little Proud and beyond Lay. Unfortunately, buzz of
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Speaker 3: them are about to humiliate themselves equally tomorrow. Proud's already
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Speaker 3: said there can't be a coalition with Susan Lay. He's
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Speaker 3: about to do a coalition deal tonight with Susan Lay.
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Speaker 3: Susan Lay got in writing for them when they walked out.
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Speaker 3: Remember for forty eight odd hours just after the election,
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Speaker 3: she got a written commitment that they had to accree
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Speaker 3: a shadow cabinet solidarity. That was the condition on bringing
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Speaker 3: them back together. And then, as you said, they rat
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Speaker 3: on shadow cabinet off of the resignation. It's accepted, and
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Speaker 3: then that's walk out again on the principle that they shouldn't.
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Speaker 3: She shouldn't have accepted their shadow their resignations.
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Speaker 1: This is absurd.
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Speaker 3: So both of them, I think, unfortunately, won't survive for
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Speaker 3: that much longer. To be fair, I predicted Susan Lae
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Speaker 3: will be gone by December, by Christmas, I was wrong,
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Speaker 3: But I don't think she'll make Easter. I don't think
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Speaker 3: she'll make the end of next week. So this is
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Speaker 3: humiliating for both of these leaders. They're both doing it
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Speaker 3: looking over their shoulder at Matt Canavan, at Angus Tale
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Speaker 3: or Andrew Hasty. Neither of them are focused on a
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Speaker 3: principal position of policy, never mind shadow cabinet solidarity. Both
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Speaker 3: of them are entirely self interested to protect their own jobs,
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Speaker 3: and they both will not succeed.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 1: I think I'd be a little kinder lea than that, Michael.
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Speaker 2: I want to pick up on something that you've touched
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Speaker 2: on earlier that I think she's actually done really well
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Speaker 2: to keep the party together in so far as she
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Speaker 2: has managed that. I mean, the blame a lot of
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Speaker 2: the blame on Susan Lee is actually blame on the
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Speaker 2: party itself. How do you keep together a party that's
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Speaker 2: now so bitterly divided. She can't go one way because
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Speaker 2: then the other way, aside would be in revolt of
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Speaker 2: the party.
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Speaker 1: She can't go that way because then the left would
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Speaker 1: be upset.
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Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, this is a problem of the party
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Speaker 2: itself that I wonder if any leader can overcome.
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Speaker 1: Part of it. Andrew is structure.
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Speaker 6: The Liberal Party doesn't have the same kind of organizational
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Speaker 6: structure that Labor has, so we don't have the discipline
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Speaker 6: that they have. But that's an argument for another day.
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Speaker 1: Look, the answer is this. Obviously, the polls are terrible.
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Speaker 6: And unless they improve significantly than the Parliamentary Party, you know,
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Speaker 6: we'll get you know, angry and upset about you know
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Speaker 6: the fact that seats will be at risk. But I
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Speaker 6: look at it this way. What's going to look like
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Speaker 6: in a year's time if they change from Susan Lee. Now,
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Speaker 6: who's the first woman leader the party's ever had. She's
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Speaker 6: only been there five minutes, She's never been given clean air.
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Speaker 6: She's had the National Party having a tantrum on two occasions.
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Speaker 6: I think she's a class act, to be honest, I
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Speaker 6: don't think she's put a foot wrong. She's had held
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Speaker 6: her head high. I thought she was superb during Bondai.
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Speaker 6: She's had to put up with all this destabilization in
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Speaker 6: the Parliamentary Party. And if the MPs want to change that,
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Speaker 6: you know that's that's fine. Well, well, it's their gift,
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Speaker 6: as John Howard always reminded us. But I think in
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Speaker 6: a year's time will be will be suffering badly if
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Speaker 6: your labor and everyone will keep reminding us the first
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Speaker 6: woman leader was dumped, not because not at her own hand,
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Speaker 6: but because of the National Party and people in the
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Speaker 6: party that wouldn't give her leadership a go. I mean,
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Speaker 6: she made a lot of mistakes. You'd say, well, fair enough,
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Speaker 6: you know you can understand why this is being reconsidered,
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Speaker 6: but put out to me any major Errorlees made. I mean,
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Speaker 6: I agreed with her on what she said about Runn
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Speaker 6: and I certainly agreed with and what you said about
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Speaker 6: the T shirt Albneici's T shirt, even though some of
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Speaker 6: the press said they were major errors. So I personally,
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Speaker 6: and I'm traditionally associated with the with the tailor side
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Speaker 6: of the party, but I can't see. I can't see
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Speaker 6: that anything Lee's done warrants her being changed. I'm sorry
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Speaker 6: to all my conservative friends in the party. You know
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Speaker 6: we're on seventeen percent. But on the other hand, you
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Speaker 6: might ask, if the Bulleton was still going, why does
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Speaker 6: this woman bother.
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Speaker 1: Now that I think Bill yes, very well done.
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Speaker 2: Yes, But the point is that liberals got to know
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Speaker 2: this because if they build an angers stator.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you can't do the job. I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: I had I.
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Speaker 2: Thought Andrew Hasey was a better option, But the point
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Speaker 2: is just throwing another leader at the same problem, you
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Speaker 2: still got the problem underneath, which is a bitterly divided
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Speaker 2: party that cannot agree where their future lies.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know who would do a better job
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Speaker 1: in solving that. Issue.
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Speaker 2: They have got to come to it themselves. You can't
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Speaker 2: dictate it, I mean anyway.
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Speaker 6: But meanwhile, I don't actually said going left right so much.
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Speaker 6: I think the one nation vote and what's happening in
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Speaker 6: the Western world is people are yearning for a return
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Speaker 6: to normality. A return to normality. That's what they're yearning
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Speaker 6: for in a lot of what they're doing in these
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Speaker 6: elections internationally, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: I think they're also looking for authenticity and conviction, something real,
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Speaker 2: something tangible, less machine politics, and full normality. Steve Well, well,
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Speaker 2: I wish it to be more normal than it has been,
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Speaker 2: Stephen and all this well, when the government should actually
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Speaker 2: be on the rack for tomorrow facing a rise in
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Speaker 2: interest rates again, I mean inflation on the rise, when
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Speaker 2: the government said no, no, we've broken the back of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean this in normal time should be devastating for
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Speaker 2: a government.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, it's fair to say that any increase in
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Speaker 3: interest rates always has a negati effect on whoever's in government.
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Speaker 3: So certainly the government are getting a free pass on
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Speaker 3: any issue, interest rates, on any issue, because of the
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Speaker 3: shambles that we're witnessing on the conservative side of politics.
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Speaker 3: So yes, the government should be under pressure. The best
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Speaker 3: governments have the best oppositions, and the Albanizer government has
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Speaker 3: barely put a foot wrong since the election. Albanese continues
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Speaker 3: to do what he said. I'm going to be down
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Speaker 3: the s I'm going to deliver my election promises, and
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Speaker 3: that's the direction we're going to go. Lurching off to
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Speaker 3: the left, not lurching off to the right. He's stuck
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Speaker 3: straight down the middle. So he's doing what he said.
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Speaker 3: Some people accuse him of being boring because of that.
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Speaker 3: I think credit to him, because he is reassuring your strum,
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Speaker 3: giving that yearning for normality. Albo Albou delivers normality, and
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Speaker 3: the shambles over in the conservative side of politics is
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Speaker 3: even I'm shocked. I mean, you know, I could laugh
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Speaker 3: and enjoy it, but I'm shocked. It's not good for
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Speaker 3: the country, so not have function.
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Speaker 1: It is shocking. Michael Kraeig, Stephen Conor, thank you very
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Speaker 1: much to you both.
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Speaker 2: After the break the Great Rent scandal and when you
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Speaker 2: see this, you know, it's no wonder that so many
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Speaker 2: Australians are so sick of mass immigration. It's almost criminal.
20:56
Speaker 2: Trees it against the country. Really, the liberals and nationals
21:00
Speaker 2: in the past two weeks fighting each other rather than
21:02
Speaker 2: holding this economically disastrous government to account. Give just one
21:07
Speaker 2: example of the Abnezi government's bungling rents. So few new
21:12
Speaker 2: homes are being built, so many hundreds of thousands of
21:16
Speaker 2: immigrants are pouring in that renters have to now pay
21:20
Speaker 2: more and more of their money just to get a
21:24
Speaker 2: place to live. Now, the latest reports on rents by Cotality,
21:28
Speaker 2: that's a business intelligence business. It shows that households paying
21:33
Speaker 2: the median rent must now spend thirty three point four percent.
21:38
Speaker 1: There's a third of.
21:39
Speaker 2: Their incomes to rent the median advertised home, a third
21:43
Speaker 2: of their income.
21:45
Speaker 1: Just on rent.
21:47
Speaker 2: Now, if you wonder by so many strands know now
21:49
Speaker 2: resent mass immigration and feel the political class doesn't represent
21:54
Speaker 2: them anymore. Here, it's just one explanation. You can't even
21:58
Speaker 2: save when you're paying that much on rent. You can't
22:00
Speaker 2: even save for you to buyer. Joining me is Leif
22:03
Speaker 2: and Nonsen and co founder of Macro Business and a
22:06
Speaker 2: former Federal Treasury official. Leith, great to see you again.
22:10
Speaker 2: How did it become so hard in Australia to afford
22:13
Speaker 2: a roof over your head?
22:15
Speaker 1: Yeah? So how's the affordability both the purchase.
22:18
Speaker 7: And rents never been harder in Australia, Andrew and the
22:20
Speaker 7: data surrounding rents is especially concerning because advertised rents, according
22:24
Speaker 7: to Totality, have risen by forty two percent over the
22:27
Speaker 7: past five years. Now that's added more than ten six
22:30
Speaker 7: hundred dollars to the annual cost of renting the median home.
22:34
Speaker 7: That's an extraordinary amount of money. And sadly, rental grades accelerated,
22:38
Speaker 7: so it's up by about five and a half percent annually,
22:40
Speaker 7: and this means that renting is going to become even
22:42
Speaker 7: more expensive. And the reason for this, the primary reason
22:45
Speaker 7: is that the federal government's adding more renters via immigration
22:48
Speaker 7: than the adding new housing and this has driven rental
22:51
Speaker 7: vancy rates to a historic load. It's also push rents
22:53
Speaker 7: highers higher and until the situation is not going to
22:56
Speaker 7: improve until the government slashes immigration, just like Canada has done.
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Speaker 7: And in Canada, Canada's basically frozen the population and they've
23:04
Speaker 7: seen advertised rents fall for fifteen straight months. So Australian
23:08
Speaker 7: needs to copy Canada. That's the solution.
23:13
Speaker 2: And so why it doesn't it? I mean, you see
23:15
Speaker 2: the polls. They have said for years and years, the
23:19
Speaker 2: public thinks that are just too much. There's just too
23:22
Speaker 2: much immigration, just too much crowd in the cities, competing
23:26
Speaker 2: for jobs, competing for homes, competing for public transport, competing
23:29
Speaker 2: for hospital beds, we can't handle. And then it's not
23:32
Speaker 2: even talking about, you know, community cohesion. The polls say that,
23:38
Speaker 2: why does the political class keep insisting on mass immigration?
23:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a million dollar questions. So I've got a
23:45
Speaker 7: unit UNI party here which is laboring liberal basically still
23:48
Speaker 7: support the mass immigration model. But Australians have been calling
23:51
Speaker 7: for lower immigration for more than a decade. Pretty much
23:53
Speaker 7: every single opinion poll has shown that, and I think
23:56
Speaker 7: that's one of the reasons why we're actually seen this
23:58
Speaker 7: flood to one nation, because we're sick of it. And
24:00
Speaker 7: it turns out, Andrew, if you make a basic necessity
24:02
Speaker 7: like shelter more expensive by importing people faster than homes
24:06
Speaker 7: can be built, people get angry and who can blame them?
24:12
Speaker 2: And then there's inflation leath a big jump last week
24:15
Speaker 2: when the government had told us was under control, it
24:17
Speaker 2: wasn't spending too much.
24:19
Speaker 1: The worst is behind us.
24:21
Speaker 2: All that how much chance to the Reserve Bank will
24:23
Speaker 2: lift interest rates tomorrow as a result.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, obviously it's a very high chance. Financial markets
24:29
Speaker 7: are priced at about a seventy percent likelihood. And given that,
24:32
Speaker 7: given that the true main inflation, which is the one
24:34
Speaker 7: the RBA looks at, that's tracking well above the reserve
24:37
Speaker 7: banks band, we're also seeing unemployment fall to a seven
24:39
Speaker 7: month low, is a very high chance that the RBA
24:42
Speaker 7: is going to high ratee tomorrow.
24:46
Speaker 2: And how big is that? How big should be?
24:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, so just a twenty five basis point hikes ito
24:56
Speaker 7: point two five percent, that would add about one hundred
24:58
Speaker 7: and ten dollars to the monthly cost of service in
25:01
Speaker 7: the average loan. And obviously, if the RBA follows up
25:04
Speaker 7: with a second hike, which is what financial markets are
25:06
Speaker 7: tipping at about two hundred and twenty dollars per month,
25:08
Speaker 7: the mortgage payments. So unfortunately, recent first home buyers who
25:12
Speaker 7: stretched themselves to getting on this five percent depositive scheme
25:15
Speaker 7: by labor, they could soon be in for a pretty
25:17
Speaker 7: rude shot.
25:21
Speaker 2: So I mean, here again, Leith, you seem to be
25:25
Speaker 2: hitting on something where a lot of voters don't seem
25:28
Speaker 2: to be able to vote for the coalition, certainly not
25:30
Speaker 2: under present.
25:33
Speaker 1: Management and guidelines.
25:35
Speaker 2: They can't stand the coalition, but they're not hot on
25:41
Speaker 2: labor either, which is visiting all this misery on them.
25:44
Speaker 7: What do you expect to happen politically, Yeah, Well, unfortunately,
25:48
Speaker 7: if we don't have a decent opposition, we're going to
25:51
Speaker 7: have a Victorian style situation. So down in Victoria, as
25:54
Speaker 7: you know and I know, it's basically one party state.
25:57
Speaker 7: So we've had a completely hopeless government down here that's
26:00
Speaker 7: been incompetent right across the board, but they've managed to
26:03
Speaker 7: stay elected because we've got a very weak opposition. And unfortunately,
26:07
Speaker 7: if the conservative side of politics remains fractured, we're just
26:10
Speaker 7: going to continue having dud government, which will probably continue
26:13
Speaker 7: to get re elected because there's no alternative, sadly, but.
26:19
Speaker 2: There will be growing disillusion with the political class, the
26:23
Speaker 2: lack of faith, and I think that makes for a
26:25
Speaker 2: very dangerous mix. Although for one nation it could be
26:29
Speaker 2: gold who knows, Leif for Nonsolin, thank you so much
26:32
Speaker 2: for your time. By the way, here's another insight into
26:35
Speaker 2: this rental crisis, or maybe it's just an insight into
26:38
Speaker 2: how politicians treat your money. When Tony hat At, the
26:41
Speaker 2: former Liberal Prime Minister, was a member for Wringa.
26:44
Speaker 1: This is in Sydney. This was this.
26:46
Speaker 2: Moderate electorate office in the over there. But when the
26:51
Speaker 2: tail part is Zally Stegel replaced that. But she got
26:54
Speaker 2: itself a new office. The old one is being redeveloped,
26:57
Speaker 2: and she got it at a prime piece of tourism
26:59
Speaker 2: and detailed territory. And the manly Corso documents released under
27:04
Speaker 2: Freedom of information show what.
27:06
Speaker 1: Happened then, predictably to the rent.
27:09
Speaker 2: From one hundred and fifty one thousand dollars in the
27:12
Speaker 2: last full year of the old Abbot office in nineteen
27:15
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to nearly three hundred and seventy seven thousand,
27:21
Speaker 2: more than double last year. And you pay Sali still
27:26
Speaker 2: gets the benefit, You get the bill. Honestly, well after
27:33
Speaker 2: the break the two Bankstown nurses who allginally threatened Israeli patients,
27:37
Speaker 2: they faced the courts today and Grammy Stars preach hard
27:41
Speaker 2: left politics, shock horror, surprise. I should thank you viewer
27:50
Speaker 2: Adam for alluding me to the Zali Stegels story. You
27:54
Speaker 2: say it over there comes out here at Beautiful Participation TV.
27:59
Speaker 2: But a word of before I go on with the show,
28:02
Speaker 2: to one of the two Bankstown nurses who went to
28:05
Speaker 2: court today to plead not guilty to charges of threatening
28:08
Speaker 2: Israeli patients. The word of advice is this, best get
28:12
Speaker 2: yourself friends with security who don't whack the equipment of journalists.
28:17
Speaker 2: It's a bad look. Scone's reporter Karen the Mark if
28:20
Speaker 2: she was there today to cover a hearing of those
28:23
Speaker 2: two nurses, both facing the same charges, both pleading innocence,
28:27
Speaker 2: and here's what happened when she questioned one of them,
28:31
Speaker 2: Sarah Abu Lebde.
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Speaker 8: Missleb Day, why were you crying in court?
28:38
Speaker 3: Why were you crying in court?
28:39
Speaker 8: Miss Loveday? Will you be challenging the admissibility of the evidence.
28:47
Speaker 8: Do you think that being protected by people who assault
28:51
Speaker 8: camera cruise is a good idea? Miss lob Day.
28:56
Speaker 2: The trial date was today set for August thirty one.
28:58
Speaker 2: The nurses are going to argue the viral video of them,
29:01
Speaker 2: which you may will have seen, I allegedly making the
29:05
Speaker 2: threats when talking to an Israeli influencer. That a they
29:08
Speaker 2: say that's inadmissible. We shall see. We'll leave that to
29:11
Speaker 2: the court. So we shall move on to something else
29:15
Speaker 2: that really cook like either day. Do you remember when
29:19
Speaker 2: Ricky Gervais told Hollywood stars to zip it with the politics.
29:25
Speaker 4: If you do win an award tonight, don't use it
29:29
Speaker 4: as a platform to make a political speech. Right, You're
29:31
Speaker 4: in no position to lecture the public about anything. You
29:34
Speaker 4: know nothing about the real world. Most of you spent
29:37
Speaker 4: less time in school than Greta Thumberg.
29:39
Speaker 2: So fantastic advice, but of course totally ignored the Grammy
29:46
Speaker 2: Awards now where celebrities have just lined up to whack
29:50
Speaker 2: Donald Trump for sending immigration agents ICE agents to deport
29:54
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants.
29:56
Speaker 1: Before I say.
29:59
Speaker 9: Thanks to guy, I'm gonna say eyes out.
30:12
Speaker 2: And naturally, a loan dissenter, a lone star who last
30:15
Speaker 2: week backed Donald Trump, Nicki Minaje, in her own time,
30:19
Speaker 2: not at an awards ceremony, she was singled out for
30:21
Speaker 2: mockery as a bit of group hate by the host
30:24
Speaker 2: Trevor Noah. It's the kind of thing you like, you know,
30:27
Speaker 2: you tend to see when mean girls pick on a loaner.
30:31
Speaker 8: Nicki minaj is not here.
30:33
Speaker 1: She is not here.
30:38
Speaker 9: She is.
30:40
Speaker 10: She is still at the White House with Donald Trump
30:42
Speaker 10: discussing very important.
30:45
Speaker 1: Issues packed bullying.
30:48
Speaker 2: Really by the way, Trump watched that routine by Noah
30:53
Speaker 2: and now threatening is now threatened to sue him for
30:55
Speaker 2: claiming falsely that Trump went to the island of pedophile
31:00
Speaker 2: of Jeffrey Epstein wonderful, spectacular news, but was really rich
31:07
Speaker 2: that in this ceremony was the celebrities cheering singer Billie
31:12
Speaker 2: Eilish for mouthing a ludicrous slogan. You hear here as well.
31:18
Speaker 1: No one is illegal on stolen land.
31:22
Speaker 2: No one is illegal and stolen lands as a start
31:25
Speaker 2: with lots of security guards to chase, you know, patrol
31:29
Speaker 2: their own boundaries, and who demands this is in fact
31:33
Speaker 2: the demand to the for the end of America.
31:38
Speaker 1: If a country has no borders, it is no country.
31:41
Speaker 2: So yes, goodbye America. Joining me and Lisa Goddard, former
31:45
Speaker 2: foreign correspondent, founder of it Only Media, Michael Danby, former
31:49
Speaker 2: federal labor politician and chairman of the Joint Standing Committee
31:52
Speaker 2: on Foreign Affairs, offencent Trade Lisa that political tirade why
32:00
Speaker 2: a music and film says almost uniformly of the left
32:04
Speaker 2: and feel so entitled to preach their politics at fans
32:09
Speaker 2: who probably don't largely share their opinions and weren't there
32:13
Speaker 2: for the politics, but for the music of the film.
32:15
Speaker 9: Yeah, Andrew, Look, thankfully this year we weren't lectured about
32:18
Speaker 9: climate change.
32:19
Speaker 1: Or equal pay.
32:20
Speaker 9: There was no hashtag me too, So it was all
32:22
Speaker 9: about immigration and about ice. But you're right, they don't.
32:25
Speaker 9: They s had no right to stand up there on
32:27
Speaker 9: that stage and politicize it. They're there because they are
32:29
Speaker 9: making a fortune as singers. So get up there, Thank
32:33
Speaker 9: you mom, thank you Dad, thank God, and then move on.
32:36
Speaker 9: We don't need to be lectured too, because what happens
32:38
Speaker 9: is what fifteen million plus people would have seen the
32:41
Speaker 9: Grammys broadcast around the world. Then it goes on to
32:44
Speaker 9: social media. All that rhetoric does is and reinforces hatred,
32:47
Speaker 9: the hatred of America, the hatred of our own countries.
32:50
Speaker 1: Look, if you.
32:51
Speaker 9: Talk about the stolen land comment, so that means that
32:55
Speaker 9: you don't respect well, don't have any acknowledgment of the laws,
32:59
Speaker 9: property law, and cludes. So if she goes home tonight
33:01
Speaker 9: and what somebody moves into a house, what is she
33:03
Speaker 9: going to do? Take a trophy and move on. She
33:06
Speaker 9: has no right because hey, she's on stolen land.
33:12
Speaker 1: That's so true.
33:12
Speaker 2: But Michael's interesting, this self hatred about stolen land and
33:16
Speaker 2: you can't patrol our own borders. It's similar to the
33:19
Speaker 2: nonsense spread by our raciscrimination commissioner, who is bagging Australia.
33:24
Speaker 6: Here is I feel very conflicted when I think about
33:27
Speaker 6: January twenty six because I think, what are we celebrating?
33:31
Speaker 1: We're all on stolen land.
33:36
Speaker 2: What is going on here? Where is this self hatred
33:38
Speaker 2: coming from Michael?
33:40
Speaker 11: How is it possible that a person employed by federal
33:45
Speaker 11: administration on taxpayer's expense says he feels conflicted about Australia. Look,
33:52
Speaker 11: there's a very serious phenomena you've identified Andrew.
33:56
Speaker 7: Here.
33:56
Speaker 11: It's the same people who are smashing up all of
33:59
Speaker 11: our historyle oracle statues from the Bush to Captain Cook
34:04
Speaker 11: here in Saint Kilda. It's the artists who are siding
34:08
Speaker 11: with the woke in Adelaidea in in Sydney. These people
34:13
Speaker 11: are a minority. Most Australians and most Americans love their
34:18
Speaker 11: countries and I think that they should take the advice
34:23
Speaker 11: of Ricky Gervais and just shut up.
34:29
Speaker 1: I think so too.
34:30
Speaker 2: And it's not just here, not just in Anglo countries.
34:33
Speaker 2: With seeing the self hatred Lisa here is Irene Montero,
34:38
Speaker 2: Spain's former Minister of Equality and leader of the Pedemos party,
34:44
Speaker 2: saying Spain is more African immigrants to sweep away racist
34:49
Speaker 2: Spaniards issues.
34:51
Speaker 12: Or supuesto bhalla pio.
34:59
Speaker 4: Estepas.
35:03
Speaker 1: Where does it come from? Really, I can't understand it.
35:06
Speaker 2: Does this woman really believe that Africans, you know, from
35:11
Speaker 2: the Muslim north of the continent, they'll come in and
35:15
Speaker 2: they won't be racist, and they won't be violent, and
35:17
Speaker 2: they won't be all these terrible things that she accuses
35:21
Speaker 2: her own countrymen of being.
35:22
Speaker 9: It's quite astounding. I watched that and I could not
35:25
Speaker 9: believe the words were coming out of her mouth. So
35:26
Speaker 9: basically she's saying demographically, just just cleanse it and put
35:31
Speaker 9: everybody in there that's going to support her side of
35:33
Speaker 9: politics and her view of the world. It's just an
35:35
Speaker 9: outrageous view. But if you look at what's happening and
35:38
Speaker 9: what's said in protest in this country, we hate Australia,
35:41
Speaker 9: they want the mass immigration. You have to worry that
35:45
Speaker 9: there's not too much of a stretch between what's being
35:47
Speaker 9: said in Spain and what will eventually flow through to
35:50
Speaker 9: countries like Australia.
35:54
Speaker 2: Is this loathing of the West and it comes through
35:58
Speaker 2: again and again Michael. Meanwhile, we'll talk about the war
36:01
Speaker 2: in the West. The Iran's supreme leader, I told her
36:04
Speaker 2: Corman he has worn is emerged from hiding from a
36:08
Speaker 2: possible American attack, is warned Trump not to attack Iran,
36:12
Speaker 2: ass threatened to with US warships perched off Iran's coast,
36:17
Speaker 2: threatened to do exactly that.
36:19
Speaker 1: Here is endeavor Jang Roman, Jang jenkin Manterri.
36:30
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has shrugged off that threat of wide of war.
36:33
Speaker 1: Here is why wouldn't you say?
36:35
Speaker 12: They had a question to say that, But we have
36:38
Speaker 12: the biggest worst barfleships in the world over there Vertos
36:42
Speaker 12: a couple of days, hopefully we'll make it.
36:44
Speaker 5: Here we don't make a deal, then we'll find out
36:47
Speaker 5: whether or not he was raised.
36:50
Speaker 2: Michael Danby What is going to happen? Should people be
36:52
Speaker 2: scared of a wider war if America attacks Iran? It
36:55
Speaker 2: as looks very likely.
36:57
Speaker 11: Well, the end of the shi fanatic ratime be a
37:00
Speaker 11: god send for the whole world. Imagine sitting in a
37:04
Speaker 11: city somewhere in Ukraine and having Iranian Shahi drones arrive
37:10
Speaker 11: every night to kill women and children indiscriminately. Imagine being
37:15
Speaker 11: in Saudi Arabia or in UAE, where the Iranians are
37:20
Speaker 11: threatening to send their missiles and have sent them before.
37:24
Speaker 11: I think it would be a big mistake if the
37:26
Speaker 11: president doesn't act. He'd looked like Obama when he promised
37:30
Speaker 11: to act against the Syrians when they gased their own
37:33
Speaker 11: people and killed fifteen hundred of their own people. Remember
37:36
Speaker 11: that red line that he never acted on. It's the
37:39
Speaker 11: danger of not acting is as big as the danger
37:42
Speaker 11: of acting. Hopefully, it's a decapitation strike that removes the
37:48
Speaker 11: Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Bazij. They're the street thugs leadership.
37:53
Speaker 11: But I don't think there'll be boots on the ground.
37:58
Speaker 11: I think the Uranians are full of bombast and rhetoric,
38:03
Speaker 11: and after Israel and the United States destroyed their air
38:06
Speaker 11: defenses in the Twelve Day War previously, it's a lot
38:10
Speaker 11: of talk. The big danger is they'll lash up with
38:12
Speaker 11: ballistic missiles and try and blow up Israeli cities and
38:16
Speaker 11: Saudi cities and the American airbase and Katar.
38:22
Speaker 1: He's a god. Michael Danby, thank you very much to
38:24
Speaker 1: you both.
38:26
Speaker 2: Right after the break the Epstein files, new evidence to
38:30
Speaker 2: really rock and shame the royal family, plus a rare
38:33
Speaker 2: interview with the monster. Donald Trump's Justice Department has just
38:41
Speaker 2: dumped the Epstein files, three million pages and one hundred
38:46
Speaker 2: and eighty thousand images from the investigation into the Lake
38:49
Speaker 2: Pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, friend of President's royalty, tycoons and
38:56
Speaker 2: famous people all over the world. And this is just
38:58
Speaker 2: going to add to the discuss how such a creep
39:01
Speaker 2: and a user, a man already convicted for soliciting sex
39:05
Speaker 2: from a fourteen year old, still had so many people
39:09
Speaker 2: that is beckon call looking for maybe the young girls
39:12
Speaker 2: he pimped out, or the money he handed out, or
39:14
Speaker 2: the favors he might do.
39:16
Speaker 1: Now.
39:16
Speaker 2: Top of the list of Andrew is Andrew mount Batten Windsor,
39:20
Speaker 2: formerly Prince Andrews, this time filmed propped over a woman
39:24
Speaker 2: like a hungry dog of the photos of him pouring her.
39:28
Speaker 2: And then there's the British ambassador, Lord Peter Mandelsson snapped
39:32
Speaker 2: here in his underpants. Epstein gave Mandalsshon and his husband
39:37
Speaker 2: more than one hundred thousand dollars of the Manderson says, oh,
39:40
Speaker 2: I don't quite remember that.
39:43
Speaker 1: Strange memory.
39:44
Speaker 2: Manderlsson has now lost his job as ambassador and resigned
39:46
Speaker 2: from the Labor Party. And there's so much more. I mean,
39:49
Speaker 2: Microsoft founder Bill Gates, he was at the Australian Open
39:53
Speaker 2: Women's final on Saturday. He was an Epstein crony, and
39:56
Speaker 2: Epstein claims Gates got a sexually transmitted disease from a
39:59
Speaker 2: Russian woman that Epstein supplied. Gates says, it's all lies.
40:05
Speaker 2: Epstein's emails in fact mentioned Russian girls so often, and
40:09
Speaker 2: both of his Russian contacts so often, and it's pool
40:13
Speaker 2: in Russia that there's now suspicions that he might have
40:16
Speaker 2: even been used by the Russians to blackmail influential people.
40:21
Speaker 2: But who knows. Join me from London, It's Monday, Regular
40:24
Speaker 2: and Talk TV hosts Samara Gil Samara, great to see
40:27
Speaker 2: you again.
40:28
Speaker 1: Look, obviously the.
40:29
Speaker 2: Latest photographs and emails are starring Andrew mount Bat and Windsor.
40:33
Speaker 2: That's the biggest news from this information dump, certainly in Britain.
40:37
Speaker 1: More embarrassment for the king to have such a brother.
40:41
Speaker 10: You know, you're completely right. I think it's interesting though,
40:45
Speaker 10: because the King has had more or taken more accountability
40:50
Speaker 10: for Andrew's actions than Keirs Starmer has for Lord Mandelssohn.
40:55
Speaker 10: You know, the King was very quick in a way
40:58
Speaker 10: to cut off Andrew as soon as everything came out,
41:01
Speaker 10: you know, this past year, whereas Keir Starmer, our prime minister,
41:06
Speaker 10: has not even removed the party whip from you know,
41:10
Speaker 10: from Mandelssohn, and mandelssh just resigned from the Labor Party
41:14
Speaker 10: last night. So it's interesting to see how the two
41:17
Speaker 10: characters are managing their acolytes. And I think the King
41:21
Speaker 10: is coming out on top, even though Andrew remains a
41:24
Speaker 10: massive problem for them. I mean, I was just sifting
41:27
Speaker 10: through some of the emails last night, and some of
41:30
Speaker 10: the things that Fergie said to Epstein. I mean, they're
41:33
Speaker 10: genuinely like tweedled d and tweedled dumb.
41:36
Speaker 1: When you read what they.
41:37
Speaker 10: Said, you know, oh please please marry me. You're my favorite.
41:42
Speaker 10: It's like they would do anything for a couple of
41:44
Speaker 10: thousand dollars.
41:45
Speaker 1: Andrew, Oh, it is so Gramby. Gramby I was so sick.
41:54
Speaker 2: And remember this is a pedophile, a convicted pedophile. Even
41:58
Speaker 2: when they were trying to wheedle favors out of him.
42:01
Speaker 1: They must have known.
42:03
Speaker 2: The British Prime Minister has now urged Andrew to give
42:07
Speaker 2: evidence in the US about his links to Epstein. Is
42:10
Speaker 2: there never going to happen?
42:12
Speaker 10: I think that with the Prime Minister's pressure, with potentially
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Speaker 10: the King's pressure, who knows if that will happen, that
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Speaker 10: he should. I mean, those images, as you said, are
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Speaker 10: absolutely horrific. This is someone who is in line to
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Speaker 10: the British throne and the fact that he exploited for
42:30
Speaker 10: years are allegedly exploited many women. I mean, we talk
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Speaker 10: about why don't other victims come out a lot of
42:38
Speaker 10: people say that because Virginia Jy Fairies obviously the most
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Speaker 10: high profile one. The reason is, yes, a lot of
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Speaker 10: them were Eastern European Russians who couldn't speak English, who
42:48
Speaker 10: are vulnerable. Some of them were French as well. They
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Speaker 10: prayed upon working class girls, many of them from very
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Speaker 10: very poor, underprivileged backgrounds, and totally exploited them. And Andrew
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Speaker 10: should absolutely pay the highest price for what he did
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Speaker 10: or didn't do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but so far has managed not to give evidence,
43:11
Speaker 2: not to go anywhere near US. You know whether the
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Speaker 2: US could grab him, I don't know, it's the whole
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Speaker 2: thing is so sad. You mentioned Lord Mandelssohn. I mean
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Speaker 2: he has escaped pretty lightly, even though he's lost in
43:26
Speaker 2: his job. I mean, I find it absolutely incredible that
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Speaker 2: a guy who was a lord and an ambassador to
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Speaker 2: the US for Britain, can accept this cash, should hang
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Speaker 2: out with this creep, should allow himself to be photographed
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Speaker 2: in his underpants. Surely this guy should face very serious
43:48
Speaker 2: examination too, shouldn't he.
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Speaker 10: You know, one of my favorite sayings is the problem
43:54
Speaker 10: with smart man is that they are stupid. And I
43:58
Speaker 10: think everyone says about Mandelssohn. Oh, he's this genius, he
44:03
Speaker 10: reinvigorated the labor party, he's a firebrand. No, he's an idiot.
44:08
Speaker 10: And the fact is that he got fired. I mean
44:11
Speaker 10: this is his fourth sort of cancelation. This is the
44:14
Speaker 10: fourth time he's almost been fired. This time he did
44:17
Speaker 10: it himself. He clings onto power like no tomorrow. And
44:21
Speaker 10: in terms of the consequences, I mean, hopefully he goes
44:24
Speaker 10: off into the shadows, never to be seen again. But
44:27
Speaker 10: this is a guy who claimed that his dog was
44:30
Speaker 10: sick for many weeks so that he could stay in
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Speaker 10: the ambassador's residence in the in New York and in Washington,
44:37
Speaker 10: and his two different residences that he had there. This
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Speaker 10: is someone who only really cares about the finer things
44:43
Speaker 10: in life, as we can see. So I don't think
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Speaker 10: he's going to face any consequences. To be honest, he's
44:48
Speaker 10: pinning it all on his partner to Silver these money
44:50
Speaker 10: transactions that have come out overnight. He's someone who does
44:55
Speaker 10: lie and doesn't take accountability, and unfortunately it's a real
44:59
Speaker 10: stain on the Laboor Party when they don't need that
45:02
Speaker 10: right now we're coming into elections, and he just looks
45:05
Speaker 10: like he's completely part of the institutional problem.
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Speaker 2: We mentioned Sarah Ferguson, but essentially most of the people
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Speaker 2: buzzing around that Honeypop were men. You're looking at that,
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Speaker 2: a guy like Epstein attracting so many powerful men to
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Speaker 2: his orbit. What do you think of men after that?
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Speaker 10: I don't have an issue with men in general, Andrew,
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Speaker 10: But what I do have an issue is that I
45:35
Speaker 10: don't think Epstein was a powerbroker. I think he was
45:38
Speaker 10: a powasite orbiting power. That's what it clearly seems. I mean,
45:41
Speaker 10: even with the Putin thing. As I was reading the
45:45
Speaker 10: hundreds of emails I could get through. It looks like
45:47
Speaker 10: he was going after Putin. He was going after all
45:51
Speaker 10: these powerful men and then trying to manipulate them. And
45:54
Speaker 10: I think what we had is many years ago, people
45:57
Speaker 10: who didn't want to confront that they weren't above the law.
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Speaker 10: All these powerful men did act like they were above
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Speaker 10: the law. Of course, Mandelson is gay. He said that
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Speaker 10: he hasn't been involved in any of the exploitation of
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Speaker 10: the girls. But the thing is he turned a blind
46:13
Speaker 10: diet seems because it seems like he was extremely privy to.
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Speaker 4: What was going on.
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Speaker 10: And I don't know if I could scrub that image
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Speaker 10: out of my head of him and his underpants Andrew.
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Speaker 2: March not Harod's underpants, I'll tell you that much, Samara
46:30
Speaker 2: Gil thank you so much for your time. One last thing,
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Speaker 2: part of the dump of the Epstein documents for videos
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Speaker 2: of interviews of him by former Trump advisor Steve Bannon.
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Speaker 1: Quite rare.
46:41
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of these things. Here's a minute
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Speaker 2: and a half of one showing how Epstein used money
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Speaker 2: to wash the stink off him.
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Speaker 13: Is your money dirty money?
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Speaker 12: If you look it, it might just ask a questions.
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Speaker 1: Your money dirty money?
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Speaker 12: No, it's not so.
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Speaker 1: In fact, why is it that dirty money?
46:59
Speaker 12: Because I it a heart thing.
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Speaker 13: But you you earned it, learned we went back to
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Speaker 13: this before you earned it. You earned it advising the
47:08
Speaker 13: worst people in the world, right, that do enormous bad things.
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Speaker 1: Uh, and just to make more money.
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Speaker 12: So if instead of asking me the question, should you
47:20
Speaker 12: take the money, because I think it's a legitimate question,
47:24
Speaker 12: question yes in the Washington because what I because I
47:27
Speaker 12: think about I think you have. Ethics is always a
47:29
Speaker 12: complicated subject. But I can tell you that with the
47:32
Speaker 12: money I gave to help try to eradicate polio in
47:38
Speaker 12: Pakistan and India, instead of asking me whether that money
47:42
Speaker 12: was should be given to these children for vaccines, I
47:46
Speaker 12: think you might want to ask their mothers who received
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Speaker 12: the vaccine, who know their child now won't get polio,
47:53
Speaker 12: and ask them if Epstein should have helped these people.
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Speaker 13: If we want, if we want a fantast you're a mathematist.
48:02
Speaker 13: You're a mathematician. We walked into that clinic where they're
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Speaker 13: giving that money out to these people that are the
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Speaker 13: most direstrates of poverty and sickness, and told them that
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Speaker 13: the money was coming from a what are you.
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Speaker 7: Class three sexual predator?
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Speaker 13: Tier one was Tier one is the highest and worst,
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Speaker 13: the lowest, the lowest, you're the lost.
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Speaker 1: Tier one, You're the lost.
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Speaker 2: And money did protect the scene until he was arrested
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Speaker 2: again and please say killed himself at in his jail cell,
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Speaker 2: which point many rich and powerful men around the world
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Speaker 2: would have.
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Speaker 1: Said, that's it for me.
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