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Speaker 1: There are still a lot of different options here, and
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Speaker 1: so there is some mixing and matching and kind of
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Speaker 1: figure out who do you keep, who you trade, who
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Speaker 1: you let go in free agency. This is going to
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Speaker 1: be interested in the next couple of years.
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Speaker 2: We've been talking about this Oriol's farm system a lot
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Speaker 2: over the last few years. There is still top tier
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Speaker 2: talent that could make its way to the big league shortly.
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Speaker 2: The next name to know Samuel Bissio. Let's talk about
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Speaker 2: him now. It's a BA prospect profile. Baseball America puts
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Speaker 2: Pasio as the number one prospect in the organization right now, JJ,
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Speaker 2: what are we thinking for him in terms of what
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Speaker 2: he could bring to the mix as a big league
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Speaker 2: or someday?
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Speaker 1: The real question is how soon is Sunday. I think
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Speaker 1: it's a hitter, Samael Basio could help in twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: It's a catcher.
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Speaker 1: They kind of have one of those in Natalie Rushman,
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Speaker 1: So seeing where Basidah is going to fit in the
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Speaker 1: short to medium term is kind of a more interesting
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Speaker 1: question there. But hey, I would much rather have a
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Speaker 1: catcher who can match like this, and if you have to,
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Speaker 1: he can play Dah. She could play for his base,
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Speaker 1: maybe even play a corner outfield spot if you're trying
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Speaker 1: to find a spot for him. I would much rather
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Speaker 1: have that than to say, oh, you can catch, but
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Speaker 1: we don't know how much he's gonna hit. So really,
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Speaker 1: if he can't catch, it's not if he's not a catcher,
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Speaker 1: not an everyday catcher. There's not a whole lot of
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Speaker 1: value here. But SiO kind of he's already created what
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Speaker 1: you know, jaws are dropping in in spring training because
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Speaker 1: he puts on a show in MVP. He can he
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Speaker 1: has massive power, and this is someone who best days
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Speaker 1: are still far far ahead of him. The question we'll
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Speaker 1: see in twenty twenty five is it's not that he
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Speaker 1: can't catch. The question is is when will the catching
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Speaker 1: be ready? And then again it will be a level
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Speaker 1: high enough to where you're splitting time with Adley Rushman. Again,
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Speaker 1: catchers nowadays don't play one hundred and forty five games,
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Speaker 1: but you don't. You're gonna have to, probably with Besida
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Speaker 1: as long as Rushman's there, figure out some other places
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Speaker 1: for him to get further out bats, because this is
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Speaker 1: the guy, this is the prospect who when he reaches
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Speaker 1: the majors, you don't want him sitting on the bench
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Speaker 1: two out of three games. You want to figure out
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Speaker 1: why he's jeff to get him in the lineup much
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Speaker 1: more often than that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you know, you look at this bat.
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Speaker 4: You look at how advanced it is for how young
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Speaker 4: he is, and at the levels that he's played against,
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Speaker 4: the level of competition has always been like three to
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Speaker 4: four years higher. It seems like absolutely mashes. There is
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Speaker 4: some swinging miss in the profile. The swing decisions can
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Speaker 4: get better, but they're sort of like at that fringy
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Speaker 4: range where with the power, with the output he has,
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Speaker 4: when you factor in how young he is and what
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Speaker 4: the production has been, you're a little bit less concerned.
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Speaker 3: I feel like all those numbers will sort of tick
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Speaker 3: up over time.
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Speaker 4: But this is a hitter that had a one h
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Speaker 4: six point five mile per hour ninetieth percentile last year
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Speaker 4: as a twenty year old. Left handed power is always
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Speaker 4: in high demand. You know, hit a ball one point
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Speaker 4: fifteen in terms of his max ev can you know
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Speaker 4: can hit for power? He is a hitter as well.
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Speaker 4: I think you sort of look at the bats of
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Speaker 4: ball ability. Yeah, there is some swing and miss, but
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Speaker 4: it's midig by enough sling decisions and sort of just
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Speaker 4: really attacking strikes that are in the zone. He's not
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Speaker 4: passive at all in that regard. So I think there's
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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that you look at with Bisio
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Speaker 4: just from a hitting perspective and can project him out
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Speaker 4: at a variety of positions, whether that's sort of you know,
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Speaker 4: filling a DH catcher, first base sort of role early on.
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Speaker 4: We'll see if there's an injury at some point, you know,
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Speaker 4: we might see him the catcher defense. Though this isn't
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Speaker 4: like a host wave Rasaigno, where you know, you talk
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Speaker 4: to every scout and it's like immediately like he's not
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Speaker 4: a catcher. It's not one of those kind of conversations.
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Speaker 4: He has a big arm you just receive, okay. I
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Speaker 4: think just you know, it takes a while to learn
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Speaker 4: that position as a professional. He's still super young and
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Speaker 4: has been playing with more advanced competition, so maybe some
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Speaker 4: of those you know, shortcomings are a little bit more
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Speaker 4: exposed or out there a little bit more. But I
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Speaker 4: think just overall, this is one of the more exciting
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Speaker 4: hitting prospects in the game.
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Speaker 1: I do want to emphasize that youth we're talking about
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Speaker 1: a catcher who will not turn twenty one until August
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Speaker 1: of this year. He reached triple A last year. We're
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Speaker 1: talking about whether he could help them at the big
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Speaker 1: league club this year, and I'll remind you he's a catcher.
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Speaker 1: Catchers often take longer, They take longer developed just because
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Speaker 1: there's so much involved in it. There's so much work involved,
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Speaker 1: and catchers wear down. Samuel Basio, to his credit, doesn't
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Speaker 1: really seem to wear down. This is the thing that
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Speaker 1: stands out about this is that these are the kind
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Speaker 1: of problems that often resolve themselves in that they end
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Speaker 1: up being useful problems in the short term. What I
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Speaker 1: love about this Orioles team. There are things to be
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Speaker 1: concerned about with the pitching staff and whether they have
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Speaker 1: enough frontline starters and all that, but when you look
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Speaker 1: at this lineup, the key thing that they have that
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Speaker 1: maybe some other teams in their division don't have as much,
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Speaker 1: especially the Yankees, I would say, is these kind of
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Speaker 1: backup plans where Ali Rushman is obviously vital to the Orioles.
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Speaker 1: He's been vital to him. His struggles in the second
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Speaker 1: half of last year kind of really kind of hurt
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Speaker 1: the offense expect him to be back this year like normal.
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Speaker 1: But if he gets hurt and you say, well, what's
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Speaker 1: Plan B, same as Pasio could be a really good
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Speaker 1: Plan B. Most teams don't have a Plan B like that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: well let's talk about it. First base, where you got
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Speaker 1: a Ryan Mattcuss, You've got You've got you know, you've
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Speaker 1: got multiple first baseman. You've got Kobe Mayo, who could
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Speaker 1: be a backup plan there. Pasio could also be a
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Speaker 1: backup plan. Mayo could be a backup plane. At third,
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Speaker 1: you have you have Gunner Henderson at short, but Jackson
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Speaker 1: Holiday could slide over or Jordan Westbrook could slide over,
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Speaker 1: and you put Kobe Mayo at third. This is the team.
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Speaker 1: You look at the outfield, They've got about five six
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Speaker 1: outfielders who are all kind of fitting into that mix.
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Speaker 1: This is the team that has a lot of depth,
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Speaker 1: and that's something that'll probably serve you well over one
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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two game seasons.
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Speaker 2: All Right, So I'll take what JJ's saying to the
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Speaker 2: next level. We're in twenty twenty five. We're gonna watch
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Speaker 2: the Orioles here and see how this season plays out.
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Speaker 2: There is still that young talent we're talking about like Basio,
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Speaker 2: like Kobe Mayo, who've talked about plenty on Baseball America. Hotcheet, Jeff,
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Speaker 2: what do you think the alignment is?
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Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 2: You don't to necessarily tell me the lineup one through nine,
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Speaker 2: but what is the alignment for the Orioles in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty six in a perfect world for them, not including
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Speaker 2: what they would do in free agency?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you sort of look at the
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Speaker 4: lineup itself, the positional side of things, there's not a
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Speaker 4: lot of uncertainty necessarily, there's still sort of like too
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Speaker 4: many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak, where there's
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Speaker 4: just too many guys out there. Tyler O'Neill is going
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Speaker 4: to be back again next year. You know they will
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Speaker 4: be without Cedric Mullins, which could open up a spot
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Speaker 4: in the outfield.
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Speaker 3: Ryan Mountcastle, I've said this for a year now.
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Speaker 4: I feel like he's a prime sort of trade candidate
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Speaker 4: at some point because they have Asio and some other
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Speaker 4: options that could potentially fill that DH or first base role.
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Speaker 3: You know, they do have Ryan O'Hearn I believe.
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Speaker 4: Actually, no, he's a free agent after next year too,
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Speaker 4: So first base kind of it does open up. So
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Speaker 4: I think we sort of look at pasioh I think
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Speaker 4: there's an opportunity there for him sort of slide into
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Speaker 4: that first base role. You know, Gunnar Henderson is under
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Speaker 4: contract for a long time, Jordan Westburg, Colton Kowser, Jackson Holliday.
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Speaker 4: But I do sort of think that when you look
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Speaker 4: at how first base sets up, you know, if mount Castle,
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Speaker 4: you know, maybe does get moved, there's an opportunity potentially
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, especially when we consider that Basio
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Speaker 4: is you know, already in Triple A and is going
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Speaker 4: to spend the majority of the year there this year
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Speaker 4: and probably does see at least a cup of coffee
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Speaker 4: in September, if not more so, I think that's probably
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Speaker 4: where the spot is that Basio slides into, just based
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Speaker 4: on all those other outfields excuse me, infield spots sort
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Speaker 4: of being full, Catcher obviously being full, and none of
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Speaker 4: those guys under all under contractor I think at least
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven and beyond.
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Speaker 1: The other interesting thing you just noted there is that
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Speaker 1: first base is kind of the position that might open up.
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Speaker 1: And I would say, as you said, center field with
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Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins. Is that gonna be Enrique Bradfield. Is that
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Speaker 1: going to be maybe a little quick, But is that
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Speaker 1: going to be advanced? Honeycutt? Is that going to be
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Speaker 1: sliding Colton Cowser back over? They have it again. This
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Speaker 1: is the thing with the Oils. The farm system depth
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Speaker 1: is not what it was a few years ago. It's
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Speaker 1: never going to be that again, probably for quite a
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Speaker 1: long while, because that was one of the better farm
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Speaker 1: systems we're ever going to see. But there are still
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Speaker 1: a lot of different options here, and so there is
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Speaker 1: some mixing and matching and kind of figure out who
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Speaker 1: do you keep, who you trade, who you let go?
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Speaker 2: In free agency.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be interested the next couple of years.
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Speaker 2: It is, and it's a tough division too, so you've
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Speaker 2: got to think about the future. But they're also in
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Speaker 2: their winning window right now and they have not signed
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Speaker 2: any of their young stars to extensions. They're getting pricey
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Speaker 2: and some of them have agency representation that might say
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Speaker 2: no regardless. So throwing that all out there, they're in
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Speaker 2: a great spot, but it doesn't mean it comes without pressure.
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Speaker 2: For Michelias, leader of the front office there, hope you
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Speaker 2: enjoyed this one. If you want to learn more about
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Speaker 2: top prospects per team, go for it. We have most
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Speaker 2: of them up already on the baseball A YouTube channel.
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Speaker 2: He might be one of these kind of streaky hitters
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Speaker 2: who's going to go through a period We've even seen
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Speaker 2: sometime or early in the spring where he's struggling. He's
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Speaker 2: striking out a lot, but the next game he's.
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Speaker 5: Got a couple extra basits, he's got a couple of
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Speaker 5: home runs, and he's just a really dynamic, exciting player.
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Speaker 2: Okay, raise fans. Is Carson Williams the next big thing?
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Speaker 2: Let's hit a prospect profile Scott bron Carlos Colaso, and
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Speaker 2: Ben Badler. You kick this off, Carson Williams. When do
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Speaker 2: you think he will be in the show for the
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Speaker 2: Rays and how good do you think he could be?
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Speaker 6: I think the bet is still going to need a
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Speaker 6: little bit more time, probably maybe another year maybe not.
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Speaker 6: The defense, though, is ready now. I mean he is
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Speaker 6: a well above average defender at shortstop. He's arguably the
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Speaker 6: best defensive shortstop in the minor leagues. He's quick, he's
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Speaker 6: light on his feet, hands aresoft, secure, He just he
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Speaker 6: has a nose for the ball. At shortstop. He can
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Speaker 6: finish plays with a plus plus arm. Everything everything you
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Speaker 6: want to see in a young shortstop defensively he has.
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Speaker 6: So whether it's making the you know, the routine play
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Speaker 6: or the more flashy acrobatic play doesn't matter. He seems
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Speaker 6: to do it all defensively. If he's good enough offensively
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Speaker 6: to hold down an everyday role in the big leagues,
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Speaker 6: he has the potential to be a Gold Glove winner.
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Speaker 6: But that last part is really the key, and there
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Speaker 6: are some red flags. There are still particular if we're
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Speaker 6: going to pick a part a player who we do
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Speaker 6: have ranked really high on our top one hundred, the
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Speaker 6: main thing for me is the swing and miss. He
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Speaker 6: struck out twenty nine percent of the time last year.
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Speaker 6: He was twenty one years old in double A right
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Speaker 6: and he does have power. He could hit twenty plus
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Speaker 6: home run. So this is not like your old school
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Speaker 6: short stuff who can really pick it, but is a slappy,
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Speaker 6: light hitting offensive player who doesn't do any damage. He
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Speaker 6: can he can impact the baseball. The key is just
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Speaker 6: going to be how often does he put the bat
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Speaker 6: on the ball, because there is some risk that you know,
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Speaker 6: if he isn't able to cut down on that swing
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Speaker 6: and miss. That could eat away at his offensive value.
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Speaker 6: But if he's able to keep the strikeouts to just
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Speaker 6: a manageable level, he does have power to go with it,
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Speaker 6: and he's giving you that elite defense at a premium
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Speaker 6: position too.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really bullish on this profile. Overall. Ben nails
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Speaker 5: it that the swing and miss is obviously the big
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Speaker 5: question mark for him, but I wonder if he can
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Speaker 5: still be a productive offensive player in the near future
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Speaker 5: even with that swing and miss, because he does have
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Speaker 5: pretty exceptional power. He consistently gets to double digit home runs.
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Speaker 5: He misses a lot on breaking balls. I think that
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Speaker 5: pitch type specifically is one we'd like to see a
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Speaker 5: little bit more contact against. But when he damages and
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Speaker 5: connects on breaking balls, he's still hitting those pitches with authority.
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Speaker 5: I don't think you're looking at Carson as a guy
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Speaker 5: who's kind of in the middle of your lineup and
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Speaker 5: the heavy hitter in your lineup. But if you're not
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Speaker 5: relying on him to be that sort of hitter, I
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Speaker 5: think he's going to add enough value in every other
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Speaker 5: area of the game to where you can kind of
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Speaker 5: live with the lower batting average and a little bit
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Speaker 5: more strikeouts because throughout his minor league career, while he
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Speaker 5: has struggled with the swing and miss, he's consistently walked
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Speaker 5: at a pretty impressive rate. It's a ten percent or
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Speaker 5: greater walk rate for him. He steals a lot of bases.
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Speaker 5: He's a good runner. We've kind of danced around it here,
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Speaker 5: but Ben did mention it. He's a potential Gold Glove winner.
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Speaker 5: If you're a shortstop who's one of the best defensive
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Speaker 5: players in the league, you have power, you have speed.
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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think you need to be an average
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Speaker 5: or even below average peer hitter to still provide a
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Speaker 5: lot of value. He's young enough and he has enough
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Speaker 5: bat speed, and you can still dream on him making
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Speaker 5: some improvements and maybe in his peak years everything comes
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Speaker 5: together brilliantly. But I think he might be one of
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Speaker 5: these kind of streaky hitters who's going to go through
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Speaker 5: a period We've even seen sometime or early in the
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Speaker 5: spring where he's struggling, he's striking out a lot, but
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Speaker 5: the next game he's got a couple extra base hits,
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Speaker 5: he's got a couple home runs, and he's just a
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Speaker 5: really dynamic, exciting player.
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Speaker 2: Ben something else I want to bring up that relates
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Speaker 2: to the race and the call of timing. This is sneaky.
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Speaker 2: I don't see this often, but I know it's a thing.
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Speaker 2: The Rays are a bit of the anti Angels in
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Speaker 2: terms of how they make their decisions to call players up.
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Speaker 2: I see you both shaking your head. So good. I'm
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Speaker 2: glad I'm not coming out of left field here. But
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Speaker 2: you do often see guys marinate for quite some time.
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Speaker 2: Not everybody, but there are quite a few players that
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Speaker 2: do take their time down in the minor leagues. You
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Speaker 2: would think maybe the Raids would rush players. You're getting
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Speaker 2: a guy up and trying to get as much of
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Speaker 2: his peak value as possible at a low price, but
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Speaker 2: maybe you're actually letting him season a little bit more so.
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Speaker 2: You're capturing those best years during the time period that
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Speaker 2: the Rays are going to have most players, because of course,
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Speaker 2: most of them are going to move on to greener
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Speaker 2: pastors if they become stars unless they lock them up.
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Speaker 2: Ben your thoughts, Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I agree. They like to give their players pretty significant
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Speaker 6: triple A time in a lot of cases, and Carson Williams,
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Speaker 6: cause I think it probably needs some triple A time
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Speaker 6: right after how much he swung and missed last year. Again,
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Speaker 6: very good prospect. I don't think he's a like a
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Speaker 6: ready made hitter right now. Defensively, yeah, absolutely, he's ready
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Speaker 6: right now to play at shortstop. But offensively, I think
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Speaker 6: he's somebody who could use more time. And you're right,
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Speaker 6: I think the Rays like to keep their players in
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Speaker 6: triple a little bit longer because you know, they might
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Speaker 6: only be there four or five years when they're under
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Speaker 6: team control, and they probably rather have those four or
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Speaker 6: five years be you know, tilted toward the players mid
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Speaker 6: to late twenties during their typical prime years, as opposed
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Speaker 6: to bringing them up early. And if they struggle, then
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Speaker 6: all right, well the clock has already started to tick
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Speaker 6: on when they're realistically just the way they operate and
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Speaker 6: be able to keep those players.
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Speaker 5: Another interesting piece with Carson is just the two way
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Speaker 5: status that he has as a prospect coming out of
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Speaker 5: high school. There are a lot of scouts early in
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Speaker 5: the process who actually preferred him as a pitcher. He's
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Speaker 5: had big arm strength for a long time now, and
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Speaker 5: so if you think about him as maybe a prospect,
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Speaker 5: he needs a little bit more seasoning as a hitter.
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Speaker 5: I think That makes sense because even when he was
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Speaker 5: in high school and a standout prospect, he was not
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Speaker 5: solely focused on hitting full time. We've heard from some
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Speaker 5: scouts who look at Carson and think of him as
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Speaker 5: maybe like a more projectable bat than you would typically
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Speaker 5: have for a prospect of his status at this age.
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Speaker 5: And I think that two way background is a really
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Speaker 5: interesting piece of this. I know a lot of teams
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Speaker 5: really love to draft two way players in particular because
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Speaker 5: they dream on the upside that can come once you
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Speaker 5: actually focus on just playing on one side of the ball,
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Speaker 5: and we've seen that repeatedly with a number of different prospects.
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Speaker 5: Maybe Carson Williams is kind of the latest in that area.
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Speaker 5: But in terms of like the swing itself, the batspeed,
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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of ingredients to like
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Speaker 5: and I'm confident he's going to get there. We have
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Speaker 5: him as a top rank shortstop in the minors for
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Speaker 5: a reason.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's finish with this ben the global approach
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Speaker 2: of the Ray's farm system right now, thoughts, because this
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Speaker 2: team really needs to be able to keep that system
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Speaker 2: tight for them to compete. It's not just the payroll.
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Speaker 2: Let's be real. The American League East is just a
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Speaker 2: pain to be a part of on a yearly basis
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Speaker 2: when they're going up against some bigger payrolls, especially if
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Speaker 2: the Red Sox you know, start spending more like they
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Speaker 2: did a little bit this offseason, in addition to the
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Speaker 2: talent that they have of course the Yankees or the Yankees.
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Speaker 2: So where do you think the Rays are at coming
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Speaker 2: off of you know, a little selloff last July.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Red Sox also have the best farm
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Speaker 6: system in baseball right now, so they're up against a lot,
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Speaker 6: but you know, it's still a pretty good farm system.
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Speaker 6: I don't think it's the elite farm system we've seen
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Speaker 6: in other recent years where we've had them, you know,
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Speaker 6: a top top three, four five farm system in baseball.
16:40
Speaker 6: But there's there's still talent.
16:41
Speaker 3: There, you know.
16:42
Speaker 6: Brayden Taylor kind of a maybe not the sexiest profile,
16:46
Speaker 6: but a guy who can do a little bit of everything.
16:48
Speaker 6: Xavier Isaac has monster raw power at first base. Trey
16:53
Speaker 6: Morgan is like another first base prospect, is kind of
16:56
Speaker 6: the the opposite of Xavier Isaac in terms of what
16:59
Speaker 6: he can do in terms of putting the bats of
17:01
Speaker 6: the ball. Defensively, you know, Chandler Simpson is one of
17:06
Speaker 6: the fastest human beings on the planet, makes a ton
17:09
Speaker 6: of contact. So there's a lot of talent still throughout
17:12
Speaker 6: the farm system. But yeah, it's tough when you're comparing
17:15
Speaker 6: them against the Red Sox right now, who obviously have
17:19
Speaker 6: much higher revenue, much higher payroll, and a better farm
17:22
Speaker 6: system right now too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the competition's fierce in that division. Yeah, especially with
17:26
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17:29
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17:45
Speaker 4: It's not a ton of top end talent, I think
17:48
Speaker 4: sort of outside of Themala and Teetam and potentially you Savage.
17:55
Speaker 2: Ultimately, let's talk about Ricky Teetuman in the top prospect
17:58
Speaker 2: in the Blue Jays system with this prospect profile. All right,
18:02
Speaker 2: Jeff Pond, you start, what do we like about Ricky
18:05
Speaker 2: Tiedeman and the journey that he's been going through to
18:08
Speaker 2: become an established big leaguer. Of course, the Blue Jays
18:11
Speaker 2: farm system will get into in a moment too. It's
18:13
Speaker 2: not the strongest, but do you think that Tetaman can
18:16
Speaker 2: be an impact player still an impact pitcher in the biggs?
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Speaker 4: You know, I think if you look back to sort of,
18:23
Speaker 4: you know, the beginning of his professional career in twenty
18:27
Speaker 4: twenty two, it's really really dominant, you know, across a
18:30
Speaker 4: few different levels, made it up to double A, extremely
18:33
Speaker 4: young for the level. You know, all throughout the following
18:37
Speaker 4: spring training in twenty twenty three, we received nothing but
18:40
Speaker 4: sort of move up green arrow feedback in terms of
18:43
Speaker 4: our preseason work and top one hundred work. Early in
18:46
Speaker 4: that season, there was an injury, and you know, I
18:50
Speaker 4: think he tried to pitch through it for the better
18:51
Speaker 4: part of two years, and you know, that's sort of
18:56
Speaker 4: I think hurt his reputation and prospect status as opposed
18:59
Speaker 4: to if he just had surgery at you know, the
19:01
Speaker 4: midway point in twenty twenty three, did come back, have
19:05
Speaker 4: some success, have some success in the AFL, but it
19:08
Speaker 4: is a long and winding road sort of to get
19:10
Speaker 4: to this point, but he is still relatively young. I
19:13
Speaker 4: think when you look at the pure stuff, it's still
19:15
Speaker 4: a lefty with a really weird arm angle that sits
19:18
Speaker 4: mid nineties, with a ton of you know, armside run
19:22
Speaker 4: and just a lot of horizontal movement on the fastball.
19:26
Speaker 4: He throws a lot of strikes. You know, it's a
19:28
Speaker 4: plus slider potentially plus plus depending up on who you
19:31
Speaker 4: talk to, and when he was healthy and right, he
19:33
Speaker 4: had great feel for his change up as well. So
19:35
Speaker 4: I think you look at total package, the body, you know,
19:39
Speaker 4: the strike throwing ability when he's been healthy, and his
19:41
Speaker 4: ability to miss bats with a variety of different pitch shapes.
19:44
Speaker 4: I just think you know, there is you know, potential,
19:47
Speaker 4: you know, at least mid rotation upside, if not more.
19:49
Speaker 1: I feel like with Tiitaman, like Jeff is kind of
19:52
Speaker 1: laid out. There's some prospect fatigue here that an injury fatigue,
19:57
Speaker 1: and the reality of it is is it is, It's
20:00
Speaker 1: one injury. I get it. If you're a fan, you're like, well,
20:04
Speaker 1: why didn't he have surgery in twenty three? Why did
20:06
Speaker 1: he wait till twenty four? But these surgeries are big deals,
20:10
Speaker 1: they're not something that you just go off and do,
20:13
Speaker 1: like an oil change. And so when you have these
20:17
Speaker 1: are not all slammed dunk. Sometimes you have a ligament
20:20
Speaker 1: that's just completely torn and you're saying, Okay, there's nothing
20:24
Speaker 1: here to do but to go have surgery. But there's
20:26
Speaker 1: a lot of times where it's much cloudier than that.
20:29
Speaker 1: But there's the possibility that rehab may work, may not.
20:33
Speaker 1: See a situation like this with tetam In where really
20:35
Speaker 1: what we're gonna see is is by the time he
20:37
Speaker 1: comes back in twenty twenty six, ma'am, we're really gonna
20:41
Speaker 1: have prospect fatigue because at that point it's gonna be like,
20:44
Speaker 1: when was the last time I was healthy? And the
20:45
Speaker 1: answer is gonna be early twenty three, twenty two. There's
20:49
Speaker 1: gonna been a long time, but we're still talking about
20:51
Speaker 1: a picture who's going to be very young at that point.
20:54
Speaker 1: And Jeff, the thing that does jump out to me
20:57
Speaker 1: you kind of laid it out a little bit, but
21:00
Speaker 1: win healthy. This is a guy who who has starter stuff.
21:04
Speaker 1: This is not some flame throwing I get out, you know,
21:07
Speaker 1: same side hitters type of pitcher. This is a guy
21:11
Speaker 1: who has a breaking ball, you know, has a slider
21:13
Speaker 1: that's kind of been sweeper at times that that works,
21:16
Speaker 1: that has elite fastball. There are the pieces here if
21:20
Speaker 1: you can stay healthy for him to be a starter,
21:23
Speaker 1: right yeah.
21:25
Speaker 4: And I think you know, that's always been the thing
21:27
Speaker 4: when I've been very positive about team in despite the
21:31
Speaker 4: health issues, is I think if you've seen him at
21:34
Speaker 4: his best, you know, he looks like a starter. He's got,
21:38
Speaker 4: you know, off speed pitch, he's got feel for a
21:39
Speaker 4: breaking ball, and his ability to spin a ball create
21:43
Speaker 4: probably different shapes if they so chose.
21:47
Speaker 3: You know, the fastball has so.
21:49
Speaker 4: Much arm side run that he could kind of start
21:52
Speaker 4: to mess with a two seam a little bit. I
21:54
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of places that the Arsenal can go.
21:58
Speaker 4: Like I said, the strike throwing has been there. He's physical,
22:02
Speaker 4: and he was efficient in handling innings early on prior
22:05
Speaker 4: to this injury. I think if you look at, you know,
22:07
Speaker 4: a player coming out of Guco, the amount of innings
22:09
Speaker 4: that he threw in that season, they almost had to
22:12
Speaker 4: kind of slow him down a little bit in the
22:13
Speaker 4: second half just in terms of how many innings he
22:15
Speaker 4: was accumulating the first half of that year. And I
22:18
Speaker 4: think a lot of it is because he was just
22:19
Speaker 4: breezing through starts and even pitch counts kind of didn't
22:22
Speaker 4: matter versus innings.
22:24
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just think the.
22:25
Speaker 4: Highs have been so high and it was just kind
22:29
Speaker 4: of a stumbling block at this point. It's just it's
22:32
Speaker 4: unfortunate what the path has been and sometimes this happens.
22:35
Speaker 4: It wasn't a straight tear, it was nerve damage and
22:39
Speaker 4: that's something that you can repair. So I think if
22:41
Speaker 4: you're going to take a positive out of this whole
22:43
Speaker 4: situation in terms of Teetaman's injuries, it's certainly that you know,
22:46
Speaker 4: it's not like it was a catastrophic elbow injury that
22:49
Speaker 4: needed to be repaired. It was kind of Teeter tottering
22:52
Speaker 4: on that edge of whether they should have surgery or
22:54
Speaker 4: not and pitching through it, trying some different rehab procedures
22:57
Speaker 4: and ultimately it course didn't work.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to present a fan case here, Jeff that
23:03
Speaker 2: it's not just prospect fatigue. It's more like, I'm okay
23:08
Speaker 2: waiting this one out, all good as a Blue Jays fan,
23:10
Speaker 2: not me but representing them right now. But is there
23:13
Speaker 2: anyone else.
23:14
Speaker 1: That's competing here that could have been the top.
23:16
Speaker 2: Hi, do we have a farm system issue that needs
23:20
Speaker 2: to be addressed and the future is bleak unless they
23:22
Speaker 2: keep spending a ton of money.
23:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, and I've said this on
23:27
Speaker 4: record for about a year now, I think this is
23:29
Speaker 4: one of the more underrated farm systems in the game.
23:31
Speaker 4: I think we're seeing it now with Alan Roaden and
23:33
Speaker 4: just some of the hype that he's getting. Argie Namala.
23:36
Speaker 4: I spent two weeks in the backfields of western Florida,
23:41
Speaker 4: and I think Nomala is a top five player that
23:45
Speaker 4: I watched over the last two weeks, and that includes
23:47
Speaker 4: numerous players that are inside the top thirty. I think
23:52
Speaker 4: we're behind on it a little bit right now, just
23:54
Speaker 4: in terms of where we probably have them ranked. I
23:57
Speaker 4: think he's a guy that could probably leap frog Ricky
23:59
Speaker 4: Tea and even like in the next couple of weeks. Frankly, so,
24:03
Speaker 4: I think he's won. I saw Trey Yesovich twice, as
24:07
Speaker 4: saw him in the spring breakout game that I saw
24:10
Speaker 4: my last day on the backfields before I headed home
24:12
Speaker 4: from Florida, and I mean, you know, it's outlier fastball shape.
24:16
Speaker 4: He's popping to twenty plus IVB pretty much on every
24:19
Speaker 4: four seam fastball and it's sitting four to six touch
24:22
Speaker 4: in seven. So you know, I do think there are
24:25
Speaker 4: some other players in this system. I think there's players
24:28
Speaker 4: from last year's drafts, some of the pitchers, Kyle Stevens,
24:31
Speaker 4: some of those guys who could rise a little bit.
24:34
Speaker 4: It's just it's not a ton of top end talent
24:36
Speaker 4: I think, sort of outside of Mamala and Tetam and
24:42
Speaker 4: potentially you Savage.
24:43
Speaker 3: Ultimately.
24:45
Speaker 1: The other thing I would have with that is is
24:47
Speaker 1: that when you look at where they rank right now,
24:49
Speaker 1: this is one of the orgs that we do think,
24:50
Speaker 1: I think could move up a good bit this year.
24:52
Speaker 1: Because it's also, like like Jeff said, it's a lot
24:55
Speaker 1: of guys from last year's draft, Themala from two years ago,
24:58
Speaker 1: but who's yet to play really above low A. It's
25:01
Speaker 1: guys who if they have good seasons this year and
25:04
Speaker 1: start doing it at upper levels, then the system is
25:07
Speaker 1: going to kind of rise in our estimation as well,
25:10
Speaker 1: because that's really kind of the test that you're trying
25:13
Speaker 1: to see, which is obviously we try to be aggressive
25:16
Speaker 1: with team, you know, with prospects at the lower levels,
25:18
Speaker 1: but the top of our top one hundred always is
25:21
Speaker 1: filled with guys who are right at the cusp of
25:23
Speaker 1: the big leagues. Why because that shows you've survived and
25:27
Speaker 1: checked off that box of Okay, I can handle high A,
25:30
Speaker 1: I can handle double A. The Blue Jays guys who
25:33
Speaker 1: would we would you know, be considering the most for
25:36
Speaker 1: this are guys like Titaman. He's hurt. Namala hasn't checked
25:39
Speaker 1: that box off yet. Guys like that Ya Savage are
25:41
Speaker 1: guys who could all reach that this year, but I
25:44
Speaker 1: haven't done it yet.
25:45
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25:47
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Speaker 1: He is on top hundred list, but because he spent
26:10
Speaker 1: time on the Major League IL last year, he has
26:14
Speaker 1: too much service time to qualify, even though that does
26:18
Speaker 1: not disqualify him from being Rookie of the Year.
26:21
Speaker 2: This is a well known name especially for Yankees fans.
26:24
Speaker 2: Jason Dominguez prospect profile, time Baseball Americas, JJ Cooper and
26:29
Speaker 2: Jeff Ponce with me, Scott Braun, let's talk about the martian, JJ.
26:33
Speaker 2: What do you see? What have we learned? Right? Because
26:35
Speaker 2: we've seen a little bit of big league time from
26:37
Speaker 2: him already too.
26:38
Speaker 1: The good news if you're a Yankees fan is is
26:40
Speaker 1: I felt like the first couple of weeks of spring
26:42
Speaker 1: training it was all about Jason Nminga's defense, Jason Aminga's defense. Man.
26:46
Speaker 1: Look how bad Jason Diminga's defense is. We haven't seen
26:49
Speaker 1: that as much lately, which is good because the Yankees
26:52
Speaker 1: really need Jason de Minguez to step in and really
26:56
Speaker 1: be a solid fixture in this lineup. You know, this
27:00
Speaker 1: is the team that's already kind of sustained some injuries.
27:03
Speaker 1: They don't have I would say, as much depth as
27:06
Speaker 1: say the Orioles or the Red Sox or maybe even yeah,
27:09
Speaker 1: maybe the Rays in the division. So they need someone
27:13
Speaker 1: like Jason Dimingez to really step up. I think we're
27:16
Speaker 1: pretty confident that he's going to contribute offensively in multiple ways.
27:20
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe he's only twenty two years old.
27:22
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like he's like, what thirty two
27:24
Speaker 1: at this point, because we've been talking about him since basically,
27:28
Speaker 1: you know, leading up to a sixteenth birthday, so it
27:31
Speaker 1: feels like it's longer than it is. But he's only
27:33
Speaker 1: twenty two, and he does have a, I would say,
27:36
Speaker 1: jeff a very well rounded offensive skill set. He gets
27:40
Speaker 1: on base, there's some power, there's a surprising speed when
27:43
Speaker 1: you consider kind of his body type and all. But
27:46
Speaker 1: when I look at it, I just feel like, this
27:48
Speaker 1: is the guy who is going to be a very good,
27:51
Speaker 1: complimentary player, And I mean that in the best way possible.
27:54
Speaker 1: Don't expect him to be your cleanup hitter this year,
27:57
Speaker 1: but do expect him to get on base, to score,
28:00
Speaker 1: to drive in runs, to show some power, and should
28:03
Speaker 1: hit for average as well. There's a lot here to like,
28:06
Speaker 1: Just don't expect him to be the Yankees savior in
28:10
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, because I was asking maybe a little
28:12
Speaker 1: bit too much for a twenty two year old.
28:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's always been the thing with
28:17
Speaker 4: Dominguez is it's just you know, how detached from reality,
28:21
Speaker 4: you know, have the expectations been, you know, since before
28:25
Speaker 4: even this guy signed, and I think, you know, kudos
28:28
Speaker 4: to him, with a lot of or lesser prospects have
28:30
Speaker 4: collapsed with you know, some of the weight of the
28:33
Speaker 4: comps that this guy was getting, the Mickey Mantles and
28:36
Speaker 4: the Aaron Judges and Mike Troutz and that sort of thing.
28:40
Speaker 4: So it's you know, I think to some extent when
28:43
Speaker 4: it comes to Domingez, it's always been like, oh, he's overrated,
28:46
Speaker 4: he's not good enough, blah blah blah, when in reality,
28:49
Speaker 4: you know, he is a really well rounded prospect. There
28:51
Speaker 4: is power here, there's on base ability, and he's a
28:55
Speaker 4: switch hitter. And I think if things go really well
28:58
Speaker 4: for Dominguez and for the Yankees in twenty twenty five,
29:02
Speaker 4: you know, at the end at some point this season,
29:04
Speaker 4: he'll as send us sort of that leadoff role, which
29:06
Speaker 4: I think Austin Wells is kind of tapped into at
29:08
Speaker 4: this point. But ideally, having a guy who gets on base,
29:12
Speaker 4: who can run a little bit, who does have power
29:15
Speaker 4: and as a switch hitter is kind of an ideal
29:18
Speaker 4: spot for a leadoff guy. So you know, we'll see
29:21
Speaker 4: if he kind of if that sort of materializes. You know,
29:24
Speaker 4: there's always been question marks. I think about the defense
29:26
Speaker 4: dating back to kind of the midpoint of last season
29:29
Speaker 4: when he returned, I don't know if there's been as
29:33
Speaker 4: much skepticism about his ability to get on base, hit
29:35
Speaker 4: for power. Just the overall offensive profile I think kind
29:40
Speaker 4: of gets a little bit underrated. It's funny, how you know,
29:43
Speaker 4: it feels like just the public narrative is always, you know, Yankees'
29:47
Speaker 4: prospects get overrated. In the same regard, I think that,
29:51
Speaker 4: you know, certain flaws of theirs can be a little
29:53
Speaker 4: bit overstated, and you know, there's certain elements of their
29:56
Speaker 4: game and strengths that go a little bit underrated. I
29:59
Speaker 4: think it kind of have Aaron Judge as well. You know,
30:02
Speaker 4: he had an unusual path to the major leagues that
30:04
Speaker 4: had a fair amount of injuries in his way up.
30:07
Speaker 3: So I think when you look at all that stuff overall,
30:10
Speaker 3: I think.
30:11
Speaker 4: That you know, this is a really good player or
30:13
Speaker 4: really good prospects still and somebody that you know, I
30:16
Speaker 4: think will be a key contributor for the Yankees this
30:19
Speaker 4: year if things do go well when he stays healthy.
30:23
Speaker 1: So let me lay this out though, Jason de Mingez.
30:26
Speaker 1: Let's say he has an incredible year this year, he's
30:28
Speaker 1: American League Rookie of the Year. He is a top
30:30
Speaker 1: hundred prospect on everyone's top one hundred prospects list, so
30:34
Speaker 1: that would seem to indicate that then he could earn
30:37
Speaker 1: the Yankees a draft pick, a prospect performance Promotion Incentive pick,
30:41
Speaker 1: a PPI pick. But he can't. And it's really kind
30:45
Speaker 1: of weird because he is Rookie of the Year eligible, he
30:48
Speaker 1: is on top hundred list, but because he spent time
30:52
Speaker 1: on the Major League IL last year, he has too
30:55
Speaker 1: much service time to qualify, even though that does not
30:59
Speaker 1: disqualify him from being Rookie of the Year. It's really weird,
31:03
Speaker 1: but that's what the reality of it is. So the
31:05
Speaker 1: one bad news is, no matter how good to Mingos
31:08
Speaker 1: is this year, he cannot earn the Yankees a PPI pick.
31:12
Speaker 3: Wow.
31:13
Speaker 2: I think he'll take the service time trade off? Right?
31:19
Speaker 2: He will, exactly right. He's open to have a long
31:23
Speaker 2: career and the name of the game you get to
31:25
Speaker 2: free agency as quick as possible, or obviously if things
31:28
Speaker 2: end up working out and he signs an extension. So
31:31
Speaker 2: let's finish with this global perspective, JJ, how do we
31:35
Speaker 2: feel about the Yankees farm system?
31:37
Speaker 3: Right?
31:37
Speaker 1: Now it's been a little beat up obviously, Spencer Jones
31:41
Speaker 1: kind of took a step back last year. The key
31:44
Speaker 1: thing and the thing that I would say that is
31:46
Speaker 1: really exciting for the Yankees is we just keep getting
31:49
Speaker 1: a lot of positive feedback, a lot of input from
31:51
Speaker 1: scouts to say, just keep moving. George Lombard Junior up
31:54
Speaker 1: on this list. You know, if you look at his stats,
31:57
Speaker 1: if you look at the slash lines and all that,
31:59
Speaker 1: you may go, really, but no, it's it's real. You
32:02
Speaker 1: saw him play more than you would normally see a
32:06
Speaker 1: Class A player play in big league games. I think
32:09
Speaker 1: that's intentional. I think that you could see him be
32:12
Speaker 1: one of the breakout prospects of twenty twenty five here
32:15
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues.
32:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, completely agree with that.
32:18
Speaker 4: Lombard was one of the guys that got you know,
32:20
Speaker 4: the most helium and sort of buzz over the offseason
32:23
Speaker 4: that continued out in Florida. And I think, you know,
32:26
Speaker 4: just seeing him on a field, he looks bigger, stronger, faster.
32:30
Speaker 4: The swing looks a little bit more cleaned up from
32:31
Speaker 4: what we saw last spring. And I thought he was
32:33
Speaker 4: an impressive player last spring in my initial looks so
32:37
Speaker 4: you know they had The Yankees don't play a lot
32:39
Speaker 4: of backfield games, so but you know, he was not
32:43
Speaker 4: involved in many of those, and if he was, it
32:46
Speaker 4: was going to be like triple A games. So you know,
32:48
Speaker 4: I think this guy's going to be headed for Hudson
32:49
Speaker 4: Valley this year probably, you know, coming through Somerset pretty quickly.
32:55
Speaker 2: Okay, and Summerset's double A ball, right, so you're getting
33:00
Speaker 2: close by then. So Yankee fans, you got your next
33:04
Speaker 2: name to follow if you weren't already, based on what
33:07
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33:08
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33:09
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33:27
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33:29
Speaker 4: All these things that Campbell does really well, Anthony also
33:32
Speaker 4: does really well. If he's younger, and he does a
33:34
Speaker 4: few of those things at just an elite level that
33:38
Speaker 4: Campbell just doesn't approach, particularly when it comes to the.
33:40
Speaker 2: Power the future of Roman Anthony in the major leagues.
33:44
Speaker 2: He is the top prospect in the Red Sox organization.
33:47
Speaker 2: It's prospect profile time, all right, Jeff Ponce you're up first,
33:51
Speaker 2: How excited should Red Sox fans and baseball fans be
33:56
Speaker 2: about Roman Anthony hopefully coming to the bigs at some
33:59
Speaker 2: point this season?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it almost probably happened just out of
34:02
Speaker 4: camp at Willi or Brad Who's you know, illness kind
34:04
Speaker 4: of carried on for a little bit longer. He made
34:06
Speaker 4: a recovery, and you know, I think that kind of
34:08
Speaker 4: put the kaibash on that, at least initially. It wouldn't
34:12
Speaker 4: shock me if we see Anthony very quickly, if there's
34:15
Speaker 4: any injuries whatsoever, into that outfield. It wouldn't shock me
34:19
Speaker 4: if he's out of the forty man roster and then
34:21
Speaker 4: up with the big league club and starting games, whether
34:24
Speaker 4: it's in right or left fields, you know, fairly quickly.
34:28
Speaker 4: In terms of the overall skill set, he's been one
34:31
Speaker 4: of the most impressive prospects since, you know, kind of
34:33
Speaker 4: the minute he stepped foot on a full season field.
34:36
Speaker 4: Over the last couple of years, even when the numbers
34:39
Speaker 4: you know, in low A kind of weren't tracking the
34:42
Speaker 4: underlying data was kind of telling a different story that
34:45
Speaker 4: started to come to fruition in High A. He made
34:48
Speaker 4: his way up at Double A at the end of
34:49
Speaker 4: the you know, his first full season and then last
34:52
Speaker 4: year between Double A and Triple A really put up
34:54
Speaker 4: some big numbers and big performances and kind of is
34:57
Speaker 4: the total package just in terms of like a five
34:59
Speaker 4: tool type of prospect.
35:02
Speaker 3: You know, it's a plus hit tool.
35:03
Speaker 4: I think when you factor in bats ball skills, swing decisions,
35:08
Speaker 4: the ability to you know, consistently make pretty good contact
35:11
Speaker 4: at good angles, some of the hardest contact you're going
35:14
Speaker 4: to see in all of baseball.
35:16
Speaker 3: You know, among minor leaguers.
35:18
Speaker 4: You know, he's in like the top you know, zero
35:20
Speaker 4: point five percentile or something in terms of you know,
35:23
Speaker 4: ninetieth percentile EV and those sort of metrics. Runs really well.
35:28
Speaker 4: It's a plus arm. You know, he's pretty good in
35:31
Speaker 4: center field, can play the position.
35:33
Speaker 3: You know, I think is.
35:34
Speaker 4: Probably an above average every day corner outfielder when it's
35:38
Speaker 4: all said and done. But you know, I think just overall,
35:42
Speaker 4: Roman Anthey is just a really strong, really interesting prospect.
35:45
Speaker 4: I know, if there's anything else that that you see
35:48
Speaker 4: or sticks out to you when you kind of break
35:49
Speaker 4: down Roman Anthony JJ.
35:52
Speaker 1: What sticks out to me is this is a guy,
35:54
Speaker 1: Like you said, if there's an injury, this is the
35:57
Speaker 1: first call they're going to make. I wouldn't be sure
36:00
Speaker 1: at although also if at some point this year this
36:02
Speaker 1: is a guy. You move guys to make room for
36:05
Speaker 1: a lot of prospects. You don't say that a lot
36:07
Speaker 1: of prospects. They got to kind of earn their way,
36:10
Speaker 1: They kind of kind of put their foot in the door,
36:12
Speaker 1: and then they have to really show Okay, this guy's
36:15
Speaker 1: just so ready that we've got to figure out a
36:17
Speaker 1: way to clear space eventually, Roman anthey's at a different
36:21
Speaker 1: tier than that now, they don't need to move too fast.
36:24
Speaker 1: This is the guy who has yet to turn twenty
36:26
Speaker 1: one years old. He's extremely young for the level he's back.
36:29
Speaker 1: He's been really extremely young for every level he's been
36:31
Speaker 1: at for the last couple of years, and he's performed
36:33
Speaker 1: everywhere he's gone. But in a system that we have
36:38
Speaker 1: as our number one farm system, in a system that
36:40
Speaker 1: has Christian Campbell as kind of one of the stars,
36:44
Speaker 1: you know, the top prospects to make an opening day roster.
36:47
Speaker 1: We expect here's Anthony who ranks above him, And if
36:50
Speaker 1: you said why, it's like, okay, this is a tough
36:53
Speaker 1: one two decision. But it really is is that for
36:56
Speaker 1: everything that Campbell does, Anthony's doing it, and he's doing
36:59
Speaker 1: it had a year and a half, two years younger
37:01
Speaker 1: than Christian Campbell at the same level. There's really kind
37:06
Speaker 1: of dramatic upside here. There's real power, there's real on
37:09
Speaker 1: base ability. There's the ability to be a very well
37:11
Speaker 1: rounded hitter, probably gonna fit in a corner, you know,
37:15
Speaker 1: like like Jeff said, but should be a solid outfielder
37:19
Speaker 1: eventually defensively as well. You put all that together and
37:23
Speaker 1: it's a pretty special prospect. This is kind of the
37:27
Speaker 1: The Red Sox seemed to be doing this about once
37:28
Speaker 1: a decade. They did this, you know, middle of last decade,
37:33
Speaker 1: kind of with the Mookie Bets group. They did this,
37:36
Speaker 1: you know, middle of the decade before that. And here
37:39
Speaker 1: we go again. We look at the Red Sox with Meyer,
37:42
Speaker 1: you know, Marcella Meyer, to go with Christian Campbell, to
37:44
Speaker 1: go with Roman Anthony, it's a really good time to
37:47
Speaker 1: be a Red Sox farm hand. There's a whole lot
37:49
Speaker 1: of talent here, and that's even without even getting into
37:52
Speaker 1: the pitching, which, as Jeff saw, is pretty stand out
37:55
Speaker 1: and pretty impressive as well.
37:57
Speaker 2: How much of a gap was there when you were
37:59
Speaker 2: decided on him versus Roki Sasaki for number one overall
38:04
Speaker 2: prospect JJ? Obviously, you know it's almost tough to compare
38:08
Speaker 2: them in a way. First of all, it's pitcher, position player,
38:11
Speaker 2: but also the fact that Roki has spent some pretty
38:14
Speaker 2: good time as a pro in a different world. I
38:17
Speaker 2: know it's not Major League Baseball, but certainly NPB is
38:20
Speaker 2: a different level from minor leagues in terms of being
38:23
Speaker 2: a professional player in the big leagues and coming over.
38:26
Speaker 2: Some people don't like that Japanese players, you know, can
38:28
Speaker 2: win Rookie of the Year, more so for the guys
38:30
Speaker 2: that come over when they're twenty eighty nine years old.
38:32
Speaker 2: But anyway, how did you slice this up when you
38:34
Speaker 2: were looking into it.
38:36
Speaker 1: I always love to make a point with that that
38:37
Speaker 1: it is the Jackie Robinson Rookie of the Year Award.
38:40
Speaker 1: A Jackie Robinson had played in an elite level major
38:43
Speaker 1: league level league before he came to the to the MLB,
38:46
Speaker 1: so that does fit for me. But no, if it
38:49
Speaker 1: would have been any other situation, I would say Anthony
38:51
Speaker 1: was a clear number one. But when you have a
38:53
Speaker 1: guy you said, it's the MPB. But pitching is also pitching.
38:57
Speaker 1: When you see Roki Sazaki splitter, you kind of know
39:01
Speaker 1: that that's going to play against pretty much anyone, especially
39:03
Speaker 1: if you can locate in the zone. And so I
39:06
Speaker 1: would say that at the end of the day, it
39:07
Speaker 1: wasn't that hard of a call to put Roki number one.
39:11
Speaker 1: But until the day he signed Roman, Anthony was a
39:14
Speaker 1: that was our number one prospect, and we were very
39:16
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. It wasn't something where it's like, man,
39:19
Speaker 1: there are times where you just look at and say, well,
39:21
Speaker 1: someone has to be number one. This is not one
39:23
Speaker 1: of those cases. The fun debate we also had, though,
39:25
Speaker 1: is is kind of leading up to that, was who's
39:28
Speaker 1: going to be the Red Sox number one? Because I
39:30
Speaker 1: could construct a pretty good case for Christian Campbell as well,
39:33
Speaker 1: probably could from Marcela Meyer as well, but especially in
39:35
Speaker 1: Campbell's case, you could argue the defensive versatility may kind
39:40
Speaker 1: of allow him to edge out Anthony long term. It's
39:43
Speaker 1: a fun debate, and Jeff is one that you and
39:45
Speaker 1: I I think I spent a lot of time talking about.
39:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think when you look, you know,
39:50
Speaker 4: both of those cases, you know, ultimately, I think, you know,
39:54
Speaker 4: we went with Sasak over Anthony, we go with Anthony
39:57
Speaker 4: over Campbell, but it is close. I think then people
40:01
Speaker 4: probably even imagine, you know, both of these hitters for
40:05
Speaker 4: you know, top five prospects in the game, guys that
40:09
Speaker 4: blend a variety of skills really really well, that can
40:13
Speaker 4: play somewhat of a premium position up the middle, you know,
40:15
Speaker 4: if you consider you know, second base, you know, of
40:17
Speaker 4: course is an up the middle position. Premium or not
40:20
Speaker 4: is another question, depending upon how you break it down.
40:23
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, ultimately that's kind of what
40:25
Speaker 4: it comes down to, is all these things that Campbell
40:28
Speaker 4: does really well, Anthony also does really well. He's younger,
40:30
Speaker 4: and he does a few of those things at just
40:33
Speaker 4: an elite level that Campbell just doesn't approach, particularly when
40:36
Speaker 4: it comes to the power.
40:38
Speaker 1: MM.
40:39
Speaker 2: Well, we'll be talking a lot more about him throughout
40:42
Speaker 2: the year, regardless of what goes on, right and will
40:45
Speaker 2: of course be tracked him to see when he cracks
40:47
Speaker 2: the big leagues. We have every single organization covered with
40:51
Speaker 2: these prospect profiles, looking at the number one overall prospect
40:54
Speaker 2: per organization. We often dive into the organization as well.
40:57
Speaker 2: In fact, for the Red Sox we spoke to Brian Abraham,
41:00
Speaker 2: who's a big part of the scouting and development process
41:03
Speaker 2: for Red Sox prospects. We did that a few episodes
41:05
Speaker 2: ago on hot Sheets, so I advise you to check
41:07
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